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Welcome to Season 3 of Love &amp; Context. This season,

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we're exploring the life of Jesus step -by -step

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and uncovering what His story teaches us about

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loving God and others. Here on Love &amp; Context,

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we're all about having real conversations about

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how to live out that love in practical, everyday

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ways, and understanding the Bible in its full

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context. We're so glad you're here. Let's dive

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into Season 3 of Love &amp; Context. Welcome back

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to the Love and Context podcast, live from my

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deck. Yeah. This is the house that we moved.

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We moved the entire house. We threw it on our

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shoulders, and between the two of us, we walked

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it over here. That's exactly how that works,

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right? Yeah, yeah. It only took us a few hours.

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It's actually super nice, though, because being

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able to actually sit out here and not have rain

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on my head, it's super nice. One of the things

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about Alaska is we have pervasive weather. In

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fact, if I turned the camera around for you,

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you would actually see a little bit of snow on

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my yard. And you would go, isn't it spring break?

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Yes. Yes, it is. It is spring break, and spring

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has truly broke? No, struck? What's the word

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I'm looking for? It's just here. Struck. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's not so great. But, yeah, so we're

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here, and we are podcasting, and we're back at

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Life of Jesus. Life of Jesus. Now, remember,

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if you remember last time we were together, for

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some of you, you're like, I literally just turned

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over this episode from the last one. Last time

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we were together, we were talking about the trial

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of Jesus and ultimately how he was placing the

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religious leaders and Herod and Pilate on trial

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and putting out their things. And so we're actually

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going to pick up and I'm going to read the text.

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We're going to be in John, though we are going

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to reference some things from some other books

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and just kind of go through what's going on in

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this book. So starting in John 19 says, then

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Pilate took Jesus and had him flogged. Not great.

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The soldiers twisted together a crown of thorns

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and put it on his head. They clothed him with

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a purple robe and went up. went up to him again

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and again saying, Hail, King of the Jews, and

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they slapped him in the face. Once more Pilate

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came out and said to the Jews gathered here,

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Look, I'm bringing him out to you to let you

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know that I find no basis for a charge against

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him. When Jesus came out wearing the crown of

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thorns and the purple robe, Pilate said to them,

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Here is the man. As soon as the chief priests

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and their officials saw him, they shouted, Crucify,

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crucify. But Pilate answered, You take him and

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crucify him. As for me, I find no basis for a

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charge against him. Now, of course, we talked

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about last time, they can't crucify him. Rome

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has to do it. The Jewish leaders insisted. we

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have a law and according to that law, he must

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die because he claimed to be the son of God.

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When Pilate heard this, he was even more afraid.

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He went back inside the palace. Where do you

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come from? He asked Jesus, but Jesus gave him

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no answer. Do you refuse to speak to me? Pilate

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said, don't you realize I have the power, uh,

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power either to free you or to crucify you. Jesus

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answered, You have no power over me if it were

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not given to you from above. Therefore, the one

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who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater

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sin. From then on, Pilate tried to set Jesus

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free, but the Jewish leaders kept shouting, If

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you let this man go, you are no friend of Caesar.

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Anyone who claims to be a king opposes Caesar.

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When Pilate heard this, he brought Jesus out

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and sat him on the judge's seat at the place

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where the... known as the stone pavement, which

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in Aramaic is Gabbatha. It was the day of the

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preparation of the Passover. It was about noon.

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Here's your king. And they shouted, take him

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away. Take him away. Crucify him. Shall I crucify

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your king? Pilate asked. We have no king but

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Caesar. That's not a great statement to roll

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out your lips. The chief priest answered. Finally,

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Pilate handed him over to be crucified. So the

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soldiers took charge of Jesus. Carrying his own

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cross, he went to the place of the skull, which

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in Aramaic is Golgotha, which, by the way, Pastor

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Nick and I have talked about is the most metal

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name for a place ever, the place of the skull.

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or we call it Calvary, right? There they crucified

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him and with him two others, one on each side

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and Jesus in the middle. Pilate had a notice

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prepared and fastened to the cross. It read,

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Jesus of Nazareth, the king of the Jews. Many

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of the Jews read the sign for the place where

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Jesus was crucified was near the city. And the

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sign was written in Aramaic, Latin, and Greek.

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The chief priests of the Jews protested to Pilate,

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do not write the king of the Jews, but that this

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man claimed to be the king of the Jews. Pilate

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answers, what I have written, I have written.

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when the soldiers crucified Jesus they took his

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clothes dividing them into four shares one for

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each of them And with the undergarment remaining,

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this garment was seamless, woven in one piece

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from top to bottom. Let's not tear it, they said

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to one another. Let's decide by lot who gets

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it. This happened that the scripture might be

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fulfilled. It said, they divided my clothes among

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them and cast lots for my garment. So this is

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what the soldier did. Near the cross of Jesus

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stood his mother, his mother's sister, Mary,

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the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. When

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Jesus saw his mother there and the disciple whom

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he loved nearby, he said to her, woman, here

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is your son and the disciple, here is your mother.

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From that time on, The disciple took her into

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his home. Later, knowing that everything had

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now been finished, and so the scripture would

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be fulfilled, Jesus said, I am thirsty. A jar

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of wine vinegar was there, so they soaked a sponge

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in it, put the sponge on a stalk of hyssop plant,

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and lifted it to Jesus' lips. When he had received

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the drink, Jesus said, It is finished. And with

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that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

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Now it was the day of preparation, and the next

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day was the special Sabbath. Because the Jewish

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leaders did not want the bodies left on the crosses

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during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have

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their legs broken, and the bodies taken down.

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Therefore came to break and broke the legs of

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the first man who had been crucified with Jesus.

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And then those are the other, but when they came

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to Jesus and found that he was already dead,

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they did not break his legs. Instead, one of

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the soldiers pierced Jesus side with a spear,

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bringing a sudden flow of blood and water. The

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man who saw it has given testimony and his testimony

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is true. He knows what he, that he tells the

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truth and it testifies that you may also believe

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these things happen so that the scripture would

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be fulfilled. Not one of his bones were broken.

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And as another scripture says, they will look

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on the one that they have pierced. Later, Joseph

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of Arimathea asked Pilate for the body of Jesus.

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Now Joseph was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly

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because he feared the Jewish leaders. With Pilate's

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permission, he came and took away the body. He

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was accompanied by Nicodemus, the man who had

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earlier visited Jesus at night. Nicodemus brought

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a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about 75 pounds.

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Taking Jesus' body, the two of them wrapped it

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with the spices in strips of linen. This was

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in accordance with Jewish burial customs. At

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the place where Jesus was crucified, there was

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a garden, and in the garden a new tomb, in which

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no one had ever been laid. Because it was the

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Jewish day of Passover, and since the tomb was

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nearby, they laid Jesus there. So that's the

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story. Now, obviously, if you go into the different

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Gospels, they're going to have a little bit of

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a different take on it. And before we continue

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this, I have to point out that we're sitting

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here. It's snowing. And it's literally snowing

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on us. I mean, not on us, because obviously you

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can see us. But it is snowing. Alaska is just

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a weird place. Yeah. Right. What's really funny

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is my wife is currently outside and she was doing

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a burn pile of like brush and scrap wood. Oh,

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she's probably like shouting up into the sky.

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How dare you? How dare you? Probably the, you

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guys can't tell, but we're nice and toasty because

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this right here goes to a heater that's up here

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and it's putting heat down on us. Yes. If you're

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wondering, has been a spoiled boy, the answer

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is yes. Ben is a spoiled, spoiled boy. So today

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we're talking, we just want to kind of talk through

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the story and talk about some things that were

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going on in the different gospel accounts and

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in the life of Jesus, or specifically here we're

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talking about his death. Next week, and we're

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actually, if you pay really close attention,

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you're going to recognize we record these back

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to back. Next week, we're actually going to talk

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about what Jesus says from the cross and its

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implication on Psalm 22. So if you want to get

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ahead of us, go ahead and look up Psalm 22 before

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we get there. But for right now, let's remind

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people where we're at. It's Passover festival

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and it's a special one, right? There's population

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swells from about 50 ,000 to possibly around

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200 ,000 during this time. Uh, conscious pilot

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is in town to prevent riots because when you

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get a bunch of people who've been enslaved and

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then you talk about deliverance, oppressors tend

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to get worried, you know? And, uh, and so they

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are, um, pilot is in town and, um, Messianic

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expectations are high. They're celebrating the

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Exodus. The irony is that during this festival,

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a man called the King of the Jews is actually

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condemned, right? Now, we talked about this a

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little bit with Pilate. He does, because his

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wife came and she's like, hey, you shouldn't

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have anything to do with this man. I had a dream

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about it. It doesn't end well. Well, technically

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it ends really well, but it's not going to end

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well for Pilate. Um, but in this case, they're

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having this conversation and like pilot is, he's

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like, okay, I don't find any fault. Can I release

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him? They're like, no, we want you. We want you

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to bring judgment on him. Okay. Well, what if

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I beat him first? No, we don't want that. What

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if I put a crown of thorns on his head? What

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if I mock him and spit on him? What if we release

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Barabbas or Jesus, right? There's all these different

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things. And he's like, eventually he's like,

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and then they're like, well, but he claimed to

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be God. And he goes, well, hold up. I got to

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go have a conversation with Jesus about this.

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Right. And he's like, who are you? don't you

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recognize that I have power of life and death

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over you? And Jesus is like, nah, bro, you don't

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got that. You don't got that. I just, Jesus is

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like so in control of this situation, which is

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crazy because he's getting beat. Right. And it's

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just like tons of control. Well, he's willingly

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going through it all. Yeah. Right. Like it's

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not a, he's not doing it because he's forced

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to. Right. He's, he openly said like, Hey, all

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I got to do is. Tell God the Father, I don't

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want to do this. Yeah. And I won't have to do

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it. Yeah. Right? He's willingly walking through

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it in complete control the whole time. Yeah.

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Yeah. It's a very different thing than like he's

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just being taken and, you know, beat. It's like,

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no, he's choosing to be there every step of the

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way. Every time he gets hit, every nail that

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is driven, he's choosing to be there. So scourging

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is what they talk about the Romans. let me kind

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of read you some of the descriptions of what

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ends up happening so they they have this thing

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it's called a flagrum it's a leather whip and

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usually has pieces of bone or metal embedded

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in it, and they fling it across the back of the

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backs, and it's designed to tear flesh as it

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pulls back. This is how they would do it. It's

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often fatal on its own if you do a number of

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lashes, but it's meant to weaken people before

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crucifixion because the Romans are really good

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at crucifying people and killing people. They

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also know how to make sure it happens quickly,

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right? So not great. Not great. If you ever watch

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The Passion of the Christ, if anything, he might

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undersell it in the movie. which is saying something.

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And it's public humiliation, psychological terror.

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It's meant to deter rebellion and terrorism inside

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of their state. But then beyond that, just beyond

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the physical beating, there's this royal parody

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that's taking place with a purple robe and a

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crown of thorns and hail king of the Jews, which

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they're saying in mocking tones. And it's Rome

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mocking, right? So then they walk to Golgotha.

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Then they walk to Golgotha. Yeah. And so the

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condemned, when they're crucified, they have

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to carry their own cross, the cross beam. Actually,

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I did look this up, and the word is pantabulum.

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So if that's wrong, just sometimes Google does

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me dirty. And note on the cross is we're often

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like, okay, he carried his cross. No, he's carrying

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hundreds of pounds. Yeah. These beams that they're

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nailing them to are stout. They are heavy. They

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are not easy to move. And what they're doing

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is saying, hey, we're going to beat you with

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an inch of your life and then make you move this.

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I sneezed wrong the other day. I had to pick

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up a box and it hurt. Yeah. And he's getting

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literally the flesh ripped off of his back and

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getting punched and kicked and all those different

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things that are going on. And he's still walking

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with a cross. Come on, dude. Yeah. Right? He's

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walking through the public the streets and he's

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walking is being made a public spectacle like

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it's it's meant to be humiliating It's meant

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to be public. It's meant for everybody to see

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what's going on here One of the accounts is gonna

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talk about Simon the siren is gonna be taken

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halfway through because he just physically can't

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carry it anymore Yeah, and that is also a very

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common practice is that they take make them take

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it until they literally can't do it anymore And

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he's going to be forced to carry Jesus's cross.

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It is interesting for whatever reason. Mark's

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gospel notes, the names of his sons, probably

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because they're known in the region that Mark

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is distributing his gospel. Yeah. Right. Because

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you'll also notice like in the, in when John

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was talking about it, he says, Hey, the man who

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saw Jesus's side gets stabbed. Then the blood

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and water come out. He can testify. Like, you

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know who he is. You can go and ask him, which

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by the way, is one of these things about the

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gospels is like, like, bro, this is written for

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you to understand. Like, go ask him. He was there.

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So he's forced to walk, and his sons are named,

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and they're completely fine. Like, hey, go verify.

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You know these guys. Go verify. They were there.

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And they go to this place called Golgotha, which

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we call Calvary today, Place of the Skull. So

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they go here. It's outside the city walls. It's

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near a public road because, once again, executions

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are meant to be public. And it's typically crucifixion

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is reserved for slaves, rebellions, non -citizens.

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Rebels is a nice way of saying terrorists, people

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who are literally opposing the regime. Yeah.

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It's considered the most shameful death and it's

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supposed to be designed for prolonged suffering.

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Right. Typically, Roman did not crucify citizens

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except in extreme treason cases. Yeah. Because

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they wouldn't even crucify one of their own citizens.

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That's why, by the way, Paul is beheaded is because

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Paul is a Roman citizen, right? Cicero, the historian,

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said it was the most cruel and disgusting penalty,

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right? So physically what's going on in crucifixion

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is that the nails are likely going through the

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wrists. The Greek word can can mean hands, but

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it can also mean wrists specifically like the

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wrist joint here. So there's conversation about

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does it actually mean the hands doesn't mean

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the wrist. I'm not a person that does those things.

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Most most historical accounts will say it's the

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wrist. Yeah. Majority of them. Some will say

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it's the hands. And it could be that it was done

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both ways. It's entirely possible. The feet are

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either nailed or tied. The body is then positioned.

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And what actually kills you is not the blood

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loss. It's not the hanging on the cross. It's

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actually you can't breathe. And so you essentially

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eventually asphyxiate. I can't say that word

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correctly. And you end up passing because you

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suffocate. Yeah. And so typically, like, what

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they would do is they would drive one nail through

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both feet. Yeah. And the feet would be nailed

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together. And then when you wanted to breathe,

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you actually had to push up on your feet. and

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with excruciating pain because you have a nail

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driven through them right yeah and so in order

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to breathe you had to endure excruciating pain

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and so there came a point where the people just

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gave up right yeah it's not that they couldn't

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push up but they were like they're like i'm not

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doing it because it hurts too much i just give

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up i'm just accepting my fate yeah yeah so there's

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three groups of people that are really at present

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uh in what's going on there's the soldiers the

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Roman soldiers and they are either, uh, inflicting

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the punishment. They're gambling for garments,

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uh, or doing their job jobs or they're just indifferent

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to what's going on. Yeah. This is same old, same

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old. The religious leaders, they say things like

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he saved others. He can't save himself. Right.

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Um, It was pointed out, it's been pointed out

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a lot of times that maybe they saw this as a

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valid criticism of his ministry. Because in Deuteronomy

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21, 23, it says, curse is anyone hung on a tree.

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Little do they know that his curse is actually

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going to be our blessing. Right. But then there's

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the other ones that are his followers. Now, a

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lot of the disciples fled. And before we give

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them a hard time, Rome is scary. Yeah. Right.

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But the women remain because it talks about Mary,

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Mary Magdalene and other people that are there

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with Jesus. And John's gospel says that Jesus

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then entrusts his mother to the beloved disciple.

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Right. The women are actually the last at the

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cross and they're the first at the tomb. By the

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way, if these accounts were not true and they

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were trying to drag validity into this, those

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are not the witnesses you would have chosen.

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Yeah. Right. Because it's kind of like women

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were not considered reliable witnesses. Now.

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this has not been saying this. I just want to

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be very careful. This has not been saying this.

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This is antiquity saying this. And so women are

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not considered a reliable witness, but they are

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both to there at the death and there at the resurrection.

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Right. And you have to take into it. You just

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take into account what the culture was like that

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day. Women were viewed closer to property than

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they were to human beings. Yeah. Especially in

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Roman culture. There was a Roman culture actually

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put a little more value on women, but not, Not

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much. It was it was the value that was mainly

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put on women was for sexual pleasure and things

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like that. Right. And and so. So you'll read

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in these accounts, you'll even read in accounts

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like of Jesus feeding the 5 ,000 and 4 ,000,

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right? Where it was, where we'll say 4 ,000 men.

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And then there's then in Mark's account and he

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actually clarifies, he's like, and there are

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women, there were women and children present

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as well. Yeah. Right. So culturally that's just,

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that was just the norm of, of how you talked

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about it. Yeah. So there's, uh, while Jesus is

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being crucified, he's not the only one. There's

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two others that are being crucified. Um, and

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in one account it says that they're both mocking

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him. Yeah. And then one account, it says one's

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mocking him. The other one turns over and says,

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Hey, don't you realize he didn't do nothing?

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Yeah. Like he's up here. He should not be up

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here. Right. Um, I almost wonder like if those

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accounts, like, you know, when you read them,

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it's like he started out mocking and then he's

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just watching Jesus there. Like just. be there

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and he hears the words that are being preached

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from the cross and he's like oh this dude shouldn't

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be here i don't know you know that's a that's

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a that's a ben thinking in his head thing yeah

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yeah i think the two people on either side of

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him has more to do with the I mean, the part

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of the part that's recorded is the, Hey, you

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are going to be in paradise today. Right. Remember

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me is, is the, is the fact that it doesn't matter

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where you're at in life. You can always say yes

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to Jesus. Correct. Right. Yeah. Like that is

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the beauty of that story. Yeah. Yeah. There's

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a, I forget the, I forget the guy who does this,

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but he does a good bit on it where, where he's,

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where he's talking about the thief on the cross

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who comes to see the apostles in heaven. And

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they're like, oh, what good works did you do?

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I didn't do nothing. I didn't do nothing. How'd

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you get here? The guy on the cross next to me

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said I could be here. Said I could be here. And

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that's the beauty of it. He said I could come.

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That's the beauty of it. Yeah. So from noon to

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3 p .m., it says the darkness comes over the

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land. By the way, you're going to catch huge

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echoes into the Exodus plague. Yeah. Right. Apocalyptic

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imagery of Daniel. Right. But then the temple

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curtain is torn from top to bottom. Yep. But

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if you remember from Torah, what is this curtain

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in the temple? curtain that separates the holy

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of holies where the most hype the high priest

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goes in yeah from the rest of where everybody

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else is yeah and we're not talking about you

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know a curtain that blocks out your windows right

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this thing was said to be inches thick yeah right

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and it was um and it was made from stout fabrics

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right it was this thing was meant to last and

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not meant to be destroyed ripped torn at all

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yeah i mean you don't want to accidentally walk

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into the holy of holies Because that has bad

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repercussions. Yeah. Right? So it's a pretty

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intense curtain. And this thing just tears from

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the top to the bottom, you know. And Roman centurion,

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one of them, says, like, when the sky goes dark

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and there's, like, all these things happening,

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he's like, surely this man was the son of God.

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Right? Of anything. By the way, a Roman person

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saying the son of God and not talking about Caesar,

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that guy's going to get in trouble. Right? A

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Roman executioner is actually one making a theological

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confession. And most of the conversation agrees

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that Jesus dies around 3 p .m., right around

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the hour when Passover lambs are going to be

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slaughtered in the temple for the Passover dinner.

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Now, why is this story really important for us,

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and why is it such a powerful symbol? Well, one,

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because death is being defeated here. A kingdom

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is being enshrined, right? Jesus is being coronated

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during this time. What it looks like is supposed

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to be shame and curse and total defeat. Jesus

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says is victory, is enthronement, it's salvation.

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In a world where, in a Roman world, for example,

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they say Caesar is Lord, but the cross actually

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declares Jesus is Lord in a way that is so countercultural

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that we have no real good way to understand it.

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Yeah. I think sometimes we think the bad things

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that happen to us are evidence that God isn't

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with us. And I was like, I actually think that

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when we're in the bad things and we have peace

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and patience and kindness, like this world is

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temporary. And how does Phil Wickham say it?

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Friday's good because Sunday's coming, right?

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Like in this world, if you have trouble and tribulation

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and heartache and all these different things,

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this is proving ground for heaven, right? For

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heaven to come to earth, for eternity. We are

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being formed into the people that God is going

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to spend eternity with, right? And it's often

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in the trouble. It's in the chaos. It's in the

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mess that we actually see God doing incredible

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things in our lives. Yeah. And you, when you're

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looking at the story too, you see, you actually

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see accounts of Jesus passing the torch, right?

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Yeah. So John is there with his mom and he's

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like, Hey, you're going to take care of her.

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Like you're, you are now her son. You are, you

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are responsible for her. You see Jesus doing

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these things. And even even back up to, you know,

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the Last Supper and Jesus getting arrested. Yeah.

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He's telling the disciples like, hey. These are

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things that are going to happen in the future.

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Right. And this is going to be on you. Right.

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Right. And, and so you see him passing the torch

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saying like, you're ready to go. You're ready

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to do this without me. Yeah. I mean, not quote

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unquote without him, but like. Nope. It's too

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late. We're branding that. We're sending it out.

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You're doing it without Jesus. Yeah. You know

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what I'm saying. But without him physically there.

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Right. Yeah. Right. And so, and so then when

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he goes through this, you see him in complete

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control. You see him. you see him calm collected

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knowing what's going to happen and you still

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see him proclaiming who he is yeah right because

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you do have accounts of him talking to pilot

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and pilots like who are you and he's like i am

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who i am yeah and you have accounts where and

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you have accounts where where pilots like i can't

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find any fault in this guy like he says he is

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your king right and Well, I think that I think

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because with the narrative, because we've been

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positioning that Jesus is in control the entire

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time. And I can hear somebody typing away. And

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by the way, you need to tune into the next episode

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because you say, well, what about when on the

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cross? He says, my God, my God, why have you

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forsaken me? Go read Psalm 22. We'll be there

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next week. Jesus is in control of everything

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that's happening. And he's walking through intentionally

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to do everything to its completion so that when

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he rises later, death, hell. Defeated. And even

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the language he uses on the cross when he says

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it is finished. Like the words that are actually

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used there is not just him saying my life is

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done. Right. It's him saying that I have fulfilled

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everything I need. Yeah. I have fulfilled the

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purpose of why I came to this earth. Yep. And

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so him saying it is finished is him saying. I

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have fulfilled the works of the prophets. I have

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fulfilled the works of the law. I have fulfilled

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Torah. Yep. I have become Torah made flesh and

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Torah died on the cross for you. Right. And it's

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going to be beyond just for you. It's going to

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be for all nations. Yeah. Even those Romans who

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put them up there. Right. Yep. I do think there

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is a tendency and I'm always a little bit hesitant

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when we're, when we're talking about the crucifixion

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to approach it lightly. because it's a really

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intense and serious story. And ironically, this

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video will post pretty close to Easter. We did

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not plan that, by the way. We did not plan that.

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It just happened to be that that's how it happened.

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And I would encourage you, when we were talking

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about resurrection, which is what was going to

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come up in a few weeks when we talk about the

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resurrection. But when we talk about the crucifixion

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and resurrection, like it's okay to sit there

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and be somber and recognize the gravity of the

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moment. Jesus literally sweat blood getting ready

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for it. Right. But you have to recognize that

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it wasn't like nobody did anything to him. He

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walked through it intentionally. Yeah. Right.

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He willingly placed himself in this position

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so that all things could be made right. Yeah.

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And that's, that's, I would say maybe the, the,

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The other side of the thing that we talk about

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with this story is in some ways we're also called

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to do that. We are called to walk into chaos

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and be willing to absorb things so that people

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can see the light. Yeah. Now, caveat, that does

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not mean you need to go get put up on a cross,

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right? I'm just talking about when you're willing

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to take the hit so that somebody else can see

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light, that you're actually walking in the footsteps

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of Jesus, that it's your control, you're stepping

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in and intentionally. Yeah. And if you look at

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when Jesus says, you know, pick up your cross

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and follow me, like, look at the context of what

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he's saying that he's putting that in the context

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of how you live your life. Yeah. Right. Like,

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are you living your life like Jesus has called

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you to live your life or how Jesus has called

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you to live your life? Yeah. Right. That is the

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question that's being asked. Yeah. It's not a,

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it's not a, hey, you got to make sure you. are

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murdered for the gospel. You're right. Sorry,

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I shouldn't laugh at that. But yeah, 100%. Right?

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It's also not, like, unless God calls you to,

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it's not sell everything and give it to the poor.

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But you should care about the poor. And you should

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be willing to do that if he does call you to

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it, right? Correct. Right? But I actually had

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a conversation with somebody a while ago where

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we were talking about that very thing, and they're

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like, well, God never said that it was bad for

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me to have nice things. I was like, you're missing

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the point. Right. If God comes to you and says,

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hey, all this nice stuff you have, I want you

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to sell it and move to middle of nowhere village

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in Africa. Sorry, middle of nowhere village in

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Africa. Yeah. He's talking about you. Yeah. Yeah.

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So if he says do that, then guess what? We do

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it. We do it. Yeah. Right? The point is that

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if Jesus is you or you're walking in the steps

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of Jesus, if Jesus was X, Y, Z. Mm -hmm. Well,

00:26:57.559 --> 00:26:59.000
what does it look like for Jesus to do those

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things? Right. And we step into those, um, including

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that we're willing to step into death if it means

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following Jesus. Yes. That's just not the first

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choice. Right. Like even Jesus was like, listen,

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if this cup can pass for me, but if it can't,

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I'm willing to walk through it. Right. And, uh,

00:27:19.019 --> 00:27:22.160
we, and we, we give our love to the, the people

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who've died on behalf of the gospel over thousands

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of years. Yeah. Right. they're, they're heroes

00:27:27.910 --> 00:27:29.349
of the faith for a reason because they're, they're

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willing to give literally everything. Yeah. Also,

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you need to be willing to live for the gospel.

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Yep. Not just die for it. Yep. Yeah. So that's

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crucifixion. I'm not going to do a, do a lighthearted

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exit because I think it's, it's worth, um, sitting

00:27:44.730 --> 00:27:46.569
in it. It's worth sitting in the weight. Yeah.

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Like feeling the weight of it. Yeah. Um, I think

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we often just skim over it and being like, okay.

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Jesus went to the cross, died for our sins, move

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on. Right. But it's worth sitting in the weight

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of how horrendous this was. Yeah. This is a somber

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time. People are losing their rabbi, their teacher,

00:28:07.900 --> 00:28:10.759
their Lord and savior. It's intense. Right. People

00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:13.740
who have given up their lives to follow him are

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now saying, is this, is this ending right now?

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Yeah. Which actually segues really well into

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what we're going to be talking about in our next

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episode. Jesus actually preaches one more sermon

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for his people before he goes. Yep. And we'll

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talk about that next week. Yep. Till next time.

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