WEBVTT 00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:06.019 Welcome to Season 3 of Love & Context. This season, 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:08.640 we're exploring the life of Jesus step -by -step 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:11.140 and uncovering what His story teaches us about 00:00:11.140 --> 00:00:13.919 loving God and others. Here on Love & Context, 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:16.059 we're all about having real conversations about 00:00:16.059 --> 00:00:18.140 how to live out that love in practical, everyday 00:00:18.140 --> 00:00:20.199 ways, and understanding the Bible in its full 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:22.820 context. We're so glad you're here. Let's dive 00:00:22.820 --> 00:00:28.320 into Season 3 of Love & Context. Welcome back 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:31.449 to the Love and Context podcast. After... Three 00:00:31.449 --> 00:00:34.210 weeks? Yeah, it's been a while. It's been a little 00:00:34.210 --> 00:00:37.049 bit because you had a thing and then I moved 00:00:37.049 --> 00:00:39.390 houses. Actually, we moved stuff from houses. 00:00:39.869 --> 00:00:42.829 We actually physically took Ben's house and lifted 00:00:42.829 --> 00:00:46.130 it up and moved it to a new lot. But before we 00:00:46.130 --> 00:00:47.770 could put it on a new lot, we had to take the 00:00:47.770 --> 00:00:49.570 existing house and move it to the previous lot. 00:00:49.770 --> 00:00:52.030 So we actually had a house sitting in the middle 00:00:52.030 --> 00:00:54.070 of the road for about two weeks. The cops weren't 00:00:54.070 --> 00:00:56.009 happy. I'm just joking. There's probably somebody 00:00:56.009 --> 00:00:58.149 who's like, no way, Spencer. I didn't even know 00:00:58.149 --> 00:01:01.039 you could do that. I mean, you can. shouldn't 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:03.420 because i mean it is a cement foundation usually 00:01:03.420 --> 00:01:06.620 or something like that but we're back and we're 00:01:06.620 --> 00:01:12.079 spryer sure than ever i don't know about you 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:13.819 man it's been a long week it's been a long week 00:01:13.819 --> 00:01:16.959 it's been a long week uh spencer works in education 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:20.239 and that's all you need to know to know that 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:24.209 right now is not great We are Life of Jesus, 00:01:24.310 --> 00:01:26.709 and we had just gotten done where Jesus laid 00:01:26.709 --> 00:01:29.269 the smackdown on the religious leaders for a 00:01:29.269 --> 00:01:32.010 while. And he says, hey, by the way, y 'all have 00:01:32.010 --> 00:01:34.629 judgment coming because you're supposed to be 00:01:34.629 --> 00:01:38.079 doing some things and you're not. Yeah. And so 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:40.060 then he gave them the woes. Then when they were 00:01:40.060 --> 00:01:41.900 in the garden, he says, guys, will you pray with 00:01:41.900 --> 00:01:44.299 me? And then they keep falling asleep. And then 00:01:44.299 --> 00:01:47.040 he's like, who are you looking for? And Peter 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:50.019 chops off a guy's ear. Yeah. So that's where 00:01:50.019 --> 00:01:52.120 we are. Now they're going and it's going to be 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:53.840 the trial of Jesus. And we're going to talk about 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:55.099 three different things. The first thing we're 00:01:55.099 --> 00:01:56.420 going to do is actually just walk through what 00:01:56.420 --> 00:01:58.340 happens in the trials of Jesus because there's 00:01:58.340 --> 00:02:00.400 three different places he ends up going. And 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.000 then we're going to come back and talk about. 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:05.980 really that it's not actually so much that Jesus 00:02:05.980 --> 00:02:08.039 is on trial. It's very clear that he's actually 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:09.879 putting them on trial and then choosing to step 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:13.479 in for them. Right. So I have some notes here, 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:16.979 so I kind of just walk through this. So the first 00:02:16.979 --> 00:02:19.120 thing that happens is they arrest him, and there's 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:22.240 an initial hearing at night. So Jesus is arrested 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:23.780 at Gethsemane. That's what we talked about in 00:02:23.780 --> 00:02:26.159 the last episode. He is first taken to Annas, 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:28.479 and that's referenced in John 18, 12 through 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:30.900 24. He's the former high priest. He's an influential 00:02:30.900 --> 00:02:32.639 person. So think of it like a private court, 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:36.120 maybe. Then he is taken to Caiaphas, who is the 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:38.840 current high priest, and the council. That's 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:43.270 talked about in Matthew 26 and Mark 14. Then 00:02:43.270 --> 00:02:46.409 the next day, he's taken to a trial before the 00:02:46.409 --> 00:02:49.889 Jewish leaders called the Sanhedrin. They seek 00:02:49.889 --> 00:02:52.590 to justify their condemnation of him. They bring 00:02:52.590 --> 00:02:55.629 false witnesses who don't agree. That's actually 00:02:55.629 --> 00:02:59.030 referenced in Mark 14. And then the high priest 00:02:59.030 --> 00:03:01.669 presses Jesus directly, are you the Christ, the 00:03:01.669 --> 00:03:04.849 Son of God, Son of the Blessed, Mark 14, 61. 00:03:05.150 --> 00:03:09.770 Jesus then answers him, and he says, yep. Actually, 00:03:09.949 --> 00:03:11.949 what he says is, I am, and you will see the Son 00:03:11.949 --> 00:03:15.849 of Man at the right hand of power. Right? Not 00:03:15.849 --> 00:03:19.289 surprisingly, he goes, blasphemy! Right? This 00:03:19.289 --> 00:03:21.469 is going to be their charge. And according to 00:03:21.469 --> 00:03:25.090 Jewish law, this blasphemy charge is serviceable 00:03:25.090 --> 00:03:27.509 by death in their judgment. And then they go 00:03:27.509 --> 00:03:29.349 and they start abusing and mocking him, spitting 00:03:29.349 --> 00:03:30.969 at him, all those type of things going on in 00:03:30.969 --> 00:03:34.090 Mark 14, 65. Okay. So this is what's happened 00:03:34.090 --> 00:03:36.080 up to this point. I'm just going to go ahead 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:37.819 and do the full narrative. We're going to come 00:03:37.819 --> 00:03:39.219 back to this in a minute because there's so many 00:03:39.219 --> 00:03:42.340 things I want to talk about in here. Then the 00:03:42.340 --> 00:03:44.599 morning council hands off to Rome. Their formal 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:47.639 morning decision is in Luke 22, and they move 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:49.900 into official action. They bring Jesus to Pilate 00:03:49.900 --> 00:03:51.800 because Rome is actually the one who controls 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:55.039 execution. You can declare somebody to be put 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:56.680 to death, but they don't actually get to put 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.719 people to death. By the way, which is interesting 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:01.139 with the woman caught in adultery because he 00:04:01.139 --> 00:04:04.500 wants him to throw a stone, right? So then there 00:04:04.500 --> 00:04:06.439 is this trial before Pilate, who is the Roman 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:08.800 governor. And then when they bring him to him, 00:04:08.819 --> 00:04:11.780 now remember, what was the charge? Blasphemy. 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:14.620 And then they come to him and they say, well, 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:17.279 he's perverting the nation, forbidding tribute. 00:04:17.620 --> 00:04:20.639 He is claiming to be a king, right? This is in 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:23.970 Luke 23, 2. Funny how the charge suddenly changed, 00:04:24.089 --> 00:04:27.449 right? So Pilate then interrogates him, and in 00:04:27.449 --> 00:04:29.009 all four Gospels, he asks him this question, 00:04:29.149 --> 00:04:30.670 are you the king of the Jews? I just think that's 00:04:30.670 --> 00:04:32.050 interesting. All four Gospels remember that. 00:04:32.509 --> 00:04:35.269 And Pilate repeatedly signals, he's like, I don't 00:04:35.269 --> 00:04:37.430 see anything that's guilty, right? It says it 00:04:37.430 --> 00:04:39.990 in Luke, it says it in John. So he sends him 00:04:39.990 --> 00:04:45.069 to Herod Antipas, right? Because Jesus is a Galilean, 00:04:45.069 --> 00:04:46.569 he's like, well, maybe Herod will deal with this, 00:04:46.610 --> 00:04:49.089 and I don't have to do anything. So Herod is 00:04:49.089 --> 00:04:51.329 like, yes, you come here. I've heard about all 00:04:51.329 --> 00:04:53.850 the signs and wonders you do. Jesus put on a 00:04:53.850 --> 00:04:57.009 magic show. And Jesus is largely just doesn't 00:04:57.009 --> 00:04:59.410 say anything. And Herod is very disappointed 00:04:59.410 --> 00:05:01.769 because he's like, ah, Criss Angel was coming 00:05:01.769 --> 00:05:04.750 and I didn't get to see it. Right. Then Herod 00:05:04.750 --> 00:05:07.050 mocks, dresses him up and sends him back. This 00:05:07.050 --> 00:05:08.790 is the whole dress as a king of the Jews thing. 00:05:08.910 --> 00:05:10.870 Right. Because Herod wanted to show Jesus didn't 00:05:10.870 --> 00:05:13.009 give it to him. So he mocks him. Yeah. Then he 00:05:13.009 --> 00:05:16.220 comes back to Pilate. Pilate tries to release 00:05:16.220 --> 00:05:18.139 Jesus, which is there's a custom political pressure, 00:05:18.300 --> 00:05:20.139 but the crowd says we want Barabbas instead, 00:05:20.339 --> 00:05:23.819 who, by the way, is a domestic terrorist for 00:05:23.819 --> 00:05:27.959 them. Jesus is condemned. Pilate caves to the 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:30.100 pressure, and the outcome then is that Jesus 00:05:30.100 --> 00:05:33.180 is delivered to crucifixion. Yeah. Okay. So that's 00:05:33.180 --> 00:05:38.540 the process of what's happening here. There's 00:05:38.540 --> 00:05:40.779 a lot to unpack in there, but this is essentially 00:05:40.779 --> 00:05:42.339 the trial. So I want to take a look at a few 00:05:42.339 --> 00:05:45.680 things going on here. When we were talking about 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:47.480 this and getting ready for it, we kind of talked 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:49.519 about how, yes, Jesus is on trial, but it's very 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:51.500 clear that Jesus is in control of the entire 00:05:51.500 --> 00:05:55.120 situation, which is very important because people 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:58.639 are like, oh, he was beaten and crucified. Yeah, 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:00.660 because he chose to be. At any point, he could 00:06:00.660 --> 00:06:02.620 have called in angels, and it wouldn't have been 00:06:02.620 --> 00:06:05.240 a problem. And if you're like, he could have 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:07.040 called in angels, it's like, yes, he actually 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:09.620 says that. Yeah. Is that Luke's account? It's 00:06:09.620 --> 00:06:12.180 when he's talking to Peter because Peter's like, 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:13.949 he's like. Dude, we don't need the swords. Yeah. 00:06:14.050 --> 00:06:16.430 Right? Yeah. Do you not think that right now 00:06:16.430 --> 00:06:17.689 the father wouldn't send somebody to protect 00:06:17.689 --> 00:06:21.009 me if I asked him? Yeah. But per his conversation, 00:06:21.250 --> 00:06:23.949 that's not what you want to do. Yeah. Yeah. I 00:06:23.949 --> 00:06:25.970 can't remember exactly what account it's in right 00:06:25.970 --> 00:06:29.589 now, but he's like, dude, if I don't want to 00:06:29.589 --> 00:06:31.829 do this, I don't have to do this. Yeah. Right? 00:06:31.990 --> 00:06:33.949 So first thing that happens, let's talk about 00:06:33.949 --> 00:06:36.290 the Sanhedrin on trial because we'll talk about 00:06:36.290 --> 00:06:38.019 them. bringing him at night in a minute because 00:06:38.019 --> 00:06:40.660 they broke a lot of legal code, their own Jewish 00:06:40.660 --> 00:06:44.860 legal code, to do those things, to try him. But 00:06:44.860 --> 00:06:46.720 just talking about him putting them on trial, 00:06:46.899 --> 00:06:49.560 the Sanhedrin and the religious leaders, they 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:51.620 were really frustrated with Jesus in general. 00:06:52.089 --> 00:06:55.870 Yeah. Because they feared losing control of the 00:06:55.870 --> 00:06:58.870 people. They feared theological authority. Like, 00:06:58.910 --> 00:06:59.910 in other words, people are going to be listening 00:06:59.910 --> 00:07:03.550 to Jesus and not them. This fragile peace with 00:07:03.550 --> 00:07:05.290 Rome, it's referenced a couple of times. They're 00:07:05.290 --> 00:07:07.009 like, is he going to upset the apple cart and 00:07:07.009 --> 00:07:09.850 get Rome mad at us? But more specifically, they're 00:07:09.850 --> 00:07:12.230 trying to protect the institution and their context, 00:07:12.449 --> 00:07:17.250 even if it means injustice. And it's very clear 00:07:17.250 --> 00:07:19.589 when Jesus comes and confronts them that he's 00:07:19.589 --> 00:07:22.790 dealing with exactly that. Because if you remember 00:07:22.790 --> 00:07:24.649 the last four episodes, he's been talking about 00:07:24.649 --> 00:07:26.949 that. He's been talking about, he's like, you 00:07:26.949 --> 00:07:28.509 were supposed to be in charge. You were supposed 00:07:28.509 --> 00:07:33.250 to be. They sit in Moses' seat. So listen to 00:07:33.250 --> 00:07:36.370 them and do what they say, but do not do what 00:07:36.370 --> 00:07:41.110 they do because they are not great. Yeah. So 00:07:41.110 --> 00:07:43.269 then Jesus, but he refuses in this conversation, 00:07:43.389 --> 00:07:45.689 he refuses to really play their narrative. And 00:07:45.689 --> 00:07:48.610 his confession ultimately forces a choice. Is 00:07:48.610 --> 00:07:51.990 he who he says he is? If he is, you have to accept 00:07:51.990 --> 00:07:53.850 it. And if he's not, you have to double down 00:07:53.850 --> 00:07:57.769 on your duplicity. Right? The irony is they claim 00:07:57.769 --> 00:08:00.550 to defend God's honor while violating God's justice. 00:08:02.629 --> 00:08:07.980 Ouch. Yeah. And the other thing is you have to 00:08:07.980 --> 00:08:11.240 realize how weak their case is, right? It actually, 00:08:11.339 --> 00:08:13.540 scripture will tell you that they actually brought 00:08:13.540 --> 00:08:15.579 in people to give false testimony against him. 00:08:15.660 --> 00:08:19.240 Yeah. And so this is, they know what they want 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:21.800 to do and they are trying to figure out how to 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:24.800 get that. Prior to false testimony, it says they 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:27.139 gathered together to see if they could find evidence 00:08:27.139 --> 00:08:30.980 to kill him. Like, you're not supposed to bring 00:08:30.980 --> 00:08:32.980 a case with the express purpose of trying to 00:08:32.980 --> 00:08:36.289 kill somebody, right? right and so but they couldn't 00:08:36.289 --> 00:08:38.769 so they're like okay now we're gonna bring false 00:08:38.769 --> 00:08:40.929 testimony and we're gonna bring false witness 00:08:40.929 --> 00:08:44.490 and so that way we have a case even though it's 00:08:44.490 --> 00:08:46.169 not a true one even though it's not real even 00:08:46.169 --> 00:08:49.690 though we are breaking so many of our legal codes 00:08:49.690 --> 00:08:51.789 and structures that we have set up right yeah 00:08:51.789 --> 00:08:54.269 right we are going to make sure this man dies 00:08:54.269 --> 00:08:59.529 yeah The ironic thing is this behavior is not 00:08:59.529 --> 00:09:02.610 super abnormal even inside the church. No. There 00:09:02.610 --> 00:09:05.210 are times that people, tongue in cheek, I'm going 00:09:05.210 --> 00:09:08.509 to say this, sacrifice one person for the good 00:09:08.509 --> 00:09:12.370 of the organization. Right? Which, by the way, 00:09:12.429 --> 00:09:14.460 is not biblical. Yeah, it's not biblical. Unless 00:09:14.460 --> 00:09:16.159 you're the person who chooses to sacrifice yourself 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:19.159 on behalf of other people. Yes. That is absolutely 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:23.759 biblical. But we scapegoat people or we say, 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:26.200 well, this person is the problem. And all the 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:28.299 chaos that's in this organization is because 00:09:28.299 --> 00:09:32.799 of this one person. I have been in a lot of organizations 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:34.639 and a lot of relationships with a lot of different 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:37.679 people. If there is chaos, it is rarely caused 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:40.899 by one person. Yeah. There's a communal aspect 00:09:40.899 --> 00:09:44.480 to it. And rather than dealing with the actual 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:47.879 problems, frequently people will just be like, 00:09:47.940 --> 00:09:49.360 hey, we want to push past this. And it's just 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:54.759 very common in religious, you know, to try to 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:56.460 protect what we think we should be protecting 00:09:56.460 --> 00:09:58.080 while at the same time we're actually sacrificing 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:00.399 what we should be protecting. Well, I would say 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.220 that's common outside of religious practice too, 00:10:03.299 --> 00:10:04.980 right? Yeah. Right, because you actually see 00:10:04.980 --> 00:10:07.220 that in Pilate. Yeah. Right, because Pilate... 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:09.500 um in case you don't know the history of pilot 00:10:09.500 --> 00:10:12.620 pilots on pretty thin ice with the Roman government 00:10:12.620 --> 00:10:15.759 right now like he's um and I'm not going to go 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:17.879 into great detail on that because we could spend 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:20.519 the rest of the episode talking about how pilots 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:22.960 you know where how he got to where he is right 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.379 now uh you can you are capable of typing on your 00:10:26.379 --> 00:10:28.379 keyboard and doing a little bit of research to 00:10:28.379 --> 00:10:30.779 figure that out yeah okay but he's on thin ice 00:10:30.779 --> 00:10:32.539 with the Roman government so he has to tread 00:10:32.539 --> 00:10:35.950 lightly Yeah. There's just been reoccurring problems 00:10:35.950 --> 00:10:38.429 in that region because Jewish people do not like 00:10:38.429 --> 00:10:40.909 being ruled over. Yeah. Right. Well, to be fair, 00:10:40.950 --> 00:10:43.409 most people don't, but they are difficult. Yeah. 00:10:43.590 --> 00:10:45.610 A stubborn and stiff necked people is how they 00:10:45.610 --> 00:10:47.490 describe themselves. Yeah. Yeah. So when they 00:10:47.490 --> 00:10:51.049 bring Jesus to Pilate, it's actually really one 00:10:51.049 --> 00:10:52.769 of the really interesting things about this. 00:10:52.809 --> 00:10:55.129 And I'm jumping ahead a little bit is that Pilate's 00:10:55.129 --> 00:10:58.509 wife actually has a vision and is like, don't. 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:03.980 Don't do this. And so Pilate is, as you're reading 00:11:03.980 --> 00:11:06.720 the text, he's treading very lightly. Well, and 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:09.600 it talks about in John, he sees him as this could 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:11.940 be potentially a revolutionary problem. If I 00:11:11.940 --> 00:11:13.720 don't handle this right, people might rise up 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:15.019 and I might have another issue where I got to 00:11:15.019 --> 00:11:17.500 call in the army. And he doesn't want to do that. 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:24.519 Yeah. So just know Pilate is the one that's handling 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.250 it, but he's also like... So there's this tension 00:11:28.250 --> 00:11:30.149 of, okay, I don't want rebellion, but also, like, 00:11:30.169 --> 00:11:32.990 I don't want to mess up again because that's 00:11:32.990 --> 00:11:35.789 not going to be good for me. Right. Well, and 00:11:35.789 --> 00:11:38.490 so the Sanhedrin, Jesus brings truth, but they 00:11:38.490 --> 00:11:40.830 don't want to acknowledge who he is. Pilate, 00:11:40.830 --> 00:11:44.669 he sees truth, but he values stability, career, 00:11:45.049 --> 00:11:48.649 crowd management more than truth, right? In fact, 00:11:48.809 --> 00:11:50.570 I would say he kind of embodies the idea of, 00:11:50.590 --> 00:11:52.769 like, hey, I find no guilt, but I'm going to 00:11:52.769 --> 00:11:56.230 punish you anyways. right um the question pilot 00:11:56.230 --> 00:11:58.350 answers with his actions is what is truth worth 00:11:58.350 --> 00:12:01.289 when it costs you political capital apparently 00:12:01.289 --> 00:12:05.549 a man's life right um it's all well and good 00:12:05.549 --> 00:12:07.230 when he says man i'm going to wash my hands of 00:12:07.230 --> 00:12:08.590 this and the blood is going to be on you and 00:12:08.590 --> 00:12:10.789 the jews accept that uh the crowd accepts and 00:12:10.789 --> 00:12:12.389 they say yeah when the blood be on us and our 00:12:12.389 --> 00:12:16.139 ancestors Pilate's still ultimately the guy responsible, 00:12:16.340 --> 00:12:19.100 right? Well, and Pilate does everything he can 00:12:19.100 --> 00:12:21.480 to get Jesus out of this. Including sending him 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:23.000 to Herod, which is the part we talked about. 00:12:23.220 --> 00:12:25.759 Yep. Sending him to Herod. Then he comes back 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:28.080 to Pilate. And then Pilate's like, I don't find 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:30.779 any guilt in this man to kill him anyways. And 00:12:30.779 --> 00:12:32.360 he's like, well, how about this? Would you rather 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:35.320 have Barabbas? Or would you rather have Jesus? 00:12:35.539 --> 00:12:37.899 By the way, Jesus has healed people. He's fed 00:12:37.899 --> 00:12:41.679 people. He's done no violence or anything like 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:46.159 that. Barabbas has led riots. He's killed people. 00:12:46.500 --> 00:12:48.720 Gotten people killed. Yeah, gotten people killed. 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:53.460 Like two polar opposites, right? And I can just 00:12:53.460 --> 00:12:55.299 imagine Pilate being like, okay, if I present 00:12:55.299 --> 00:12:57.820 these two options, clearly they're going to pick 00:12:57.820 --> 00:13:01.309 Jesus, right? And they're like, nah, nah. They're 00:13:01.309 --> 00:13:02.970 like, no, we'll take Barabbas. We'll take Barabbas. 00:13:03.549 --> 00:13:08.710 Yeah. It's, well, and I want to, we talked about 00:13:08.710 --> 00:13:10.009 how he's trying to do everything. So I want to 00:13:10.009 --> 00:13:12.769 talk about Herod really quick because Pilate's 00:13:12.769 --> 00:13:14.690 not willing to engage truth because it's going 00:13:14.690 --> 00:13:17.350 to cause some political capital. Herod wants 00:13:17.350 --> 00:13:21.779 to be entertained. You kind of get the idea throughout 00:13:21.779 --> 00:13:25.159 the gospel, but Herod, he wants to see the stuff. 00:13:25.940 --> 00:13:29.059 And he wants Jesus, but he wants truth, but he 00:13:29.059 --> 00:13:31.600 wants it on his own terms and for his entertainment. 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:36.379 I feel like I might be talking about some things 00:13:36.379 --> 00:13:38.500 that kind of go on today in our spheres, right? 00:13:38.980 --> 00:13:42.519 But Jesus is not a person. He's not a vending 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:44.340 machine. He's not performing on demand. God is 00:13:44.340 --> 00:13:47.580 not a vending machine, right? And his silence 00:13:47.580 --> 00:13:49.960 exposes, inherits emptiness. There's no justice. 00:13:50.340 --> 00:13:53.580 There's no pursuit of truth. It's only amusement 00:13:53.580 --> 00:13:59.019 and contempt. Guys, I'm just going to say that 00:13:59.019 --> 00:14:01.080 if your church is only full of amusement and 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.600 contempt, you're following somebody and ain't 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:06.559 Jesus. Yeah. Right. It's like following Jesus 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:08.519 is going to make you look like Jesus, which means 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:11.559 that you'll speak truth in love with connection 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:14.320 for the purpose of building somebody up to be 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:17.080 a better person. Right. And it's going to be 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:19.460 a piece of love and joy and peace and, and bringing 00:14:19.460 --> 00:14:21.779 the kingdom of God to earth. If you're only there 00:14:21.779 --> 00:14:23.860 to be amused and you, and you, and complain, 00:14:24.019 --> 00:14:26.639 I think you might be serving at the church of 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.600 Herod. Right. That's an overstatement. I had 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:32.139 a conversation with some young people. This was 00:14:32.139 --> 00:14:35.139 10 years ago now. Hey, 10 years ago, you were 00:14:35.139 --> 00:14:41.500 a young person. Yeah, yeah. Ish, yeah. But they 00:14:41.500 --> 00:14:43.919 were talking. I was like, what are you looking 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:47.139 for in a church? And they were all talking like, 00:14:47.179 --> 00:14:50.200 we want nice lights. We want good atmosphere, 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:53.919 good music. comfy chairs and they like listed 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:56.519 all these things. And so then I got done listing 00:14:56.519 --> 00:14:58.740 it and I, and I just asked the simple question. 00:14:58.820 --> 00:15:01.659 I was like, okay, like what about a church that 00:15:01.659 --> 00:15:04.120 loves Jesus and loves the broken? And they're 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:09.679 like, Oh yeah. Yeah. That'd be good too. Yeah. 00:15:09.940 --> 00:15:11.740 And I was like, just so you know, that should 00:15:11.740 --> 00:15:14.179 be the first thing you're looking for. Yeah. 00:15:14.379 --> 00:15:17.200 Right. Or at least in your first, like shaping. 00:15:18.100 --> 00:15:21.000 Yeah. Yeah. Like you should be looking for that. 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:23.519 And if the church, happens to have good lights 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:26.440 good music yeah you know comfy chairs alongside 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:29.779 that great you might quote Jesus and says you 00:15:29.779 --> 00:15:32.639 should have done uh the ladder without neglecting 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:35.269 the former right right it's okay to have nice 00:15:35.269 --> 00:15:37.690 lights and have good music and have uh you know 00:15:37.690 --> 00:15:39.909 engaging preaching i mean we just updated our 00:15:39.909 --> 00:15:42.049 sound system like a year ago right yeah and and 00:15:42.049 --> 00:15:45.210 and it's good but if it comes at the behest of 00:15:45.210 --> 00:15:48.289 of loving a broken world of actually being the 00:15:48.289 --> 00:15:49.769 people who stand in the crossroads of the world 00:15:49.769 --> 00:15:53.549 and put on a different story yeah man you know 00:15:53.549 --> 00:15:57.070 um so we we kind of danced around it a little 00:15:57.070 --> 00:15:59.789 bit in the sanhedrin conversation but uh they 00:15:59.789 --> 00:16:02.809 kind of break their own rules um so there's a 00:16:03.529 --> 00:16:06.470 The Gospels clearly portray a rushed, irregular, 00:16:06.730 --> 00:16:09.789 unjust process, right? So I'm going to give a 00:16:09.789 --> 00:16:11.330 couple of categories here because I want to talk 00:16:11.330 --> 00:16:13.990 about things that are explicitly shown in the 00:16:13.990 --> 00:16:16.590 Gospels, some things that are heavily implied, 00:16:16.769 --> 00:16:19.889 and some things to think about. And it's based 00:16:19.889 --> 00:16:21.529 on what we actually have for information. One 00:16:21.529 --> 00:16:23.110 of the first things is, we talked about this, 00:16:23.190 --> 00:16:26.529 is they had a predetermined outcome, okay? Mark 00:16:26.529 --> 00:16:29.850 14, 55 says they are seeking testimony to put 00:16:29.850 --> 00:16:32.570 him to death. This is a predetermined outcome. 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:35.899 That is not how the Torah, you guys sat with 00:16:35.899 --> 00:16:37.779 us through Torah. That is not how the Torah is 00:16:37.779 --> 00:16:40.139 made out to be. Not for a predetermined outcome. 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:42.220 It's meant to correct people and bring them back 00:16:42.220 --> 00:16:45.539 to the path. Yeah. Right. You talked about this 00:16:45.539 --> 00:16:49.340 false and inconsistent testimony. Like they have 00:16:49.340 --> 00:16:51.059 the trial, they bring the people in and they're 00:16:51.059 --> 00:16:54.000 like, they're like, dude, you guys, did you even 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.440 check your stories? Right. What is it? Deuteronomy 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.000 where it talks about three witnesses? Yes. I 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:02.740 believe it's in Deuteronomy. Yeah. If it's not, 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:07.240 write to us and we will correct that. Yeah. The 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:09.359 high priest, we talked about this, has pressure 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:12.539 tactics. He has leading questions, right? Leading 00:17:12.539 --> 00:17:14.240 him to a question that he's going to answer in 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:16.039 a way that's going to be kind of a gotcha moment. 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:19.720 Yeah. Right? That's problematic. Mark 14, 61, 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:23.059 where he's like, well, are you this specific 00:17:23.059 --> 00:17:26.220 thing that I can claim blasphemy for? Right? 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:29.859 And Jesus is like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's me. 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:32.660 And you know what's definitely not part of that 00:17:32.660 --> 00:17:35.099 process also? Violence and mocking the person 00:17:35.099 --> 00:17:38.559 who's being paraded out of there, right? Like 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:40.839 that's definitely not part of the process. I've 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:42.759 read a lot of Torah. You know where it's not? 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:48.539 In there. And then I did point this one out is 00:17:48.539 --> 00:17:53.579 that they actually change the accusation when 00:17:53.579 --> 00:17:57.509 they get the pilot. So it was blasphemy, theological 00:17:57.509 --> 00:17:59.789 claim. But when they get to Rome, it's like, 00:17:59.869 --> 00:18:02.230 oh, he's a political insurrectionist claiming 00:18:02.230 --> 00:18:05.670 to be a king. There's a shift in language, right? 00:18:05.769 --> 00:18:09.369 Yeah. Okay, we're speaking on Jewish terms, Jewish 00:18:09.369 --> 00:18:12.529 terminology. Then we get to Rome, and Rome has 00:18:12.529 --> 00:18:14.789 a totally different political structure. Yeah. 00:18:14.849 --> 00:18:16.569 Right? So they're like, okay, we need to try 00:18:16.569 --> 00:18:19.069 to speak into that political structure. So Pilate 00:18:19.069 --> 00:18:22.059 actually takes us on. Yeah. Right. He claims 00:18:22.059 --> 00:18:24.960 to be king and an insurrectionist. Right. And 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:27.859 as soon as like if they know in the history of 00:18:27.859 --> 00:18:30.420 Pilate being like he wants to cause insurrection, 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.359 Pilate would at that point have no choice but 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:36.619 to take it on. Right. So the next ones are procedural 00:18:36.619 --> 00:18:38.720 irregularities that are often noted by scholars, 00:18:39.099 --> 00:18:42.980 though they come to arrest him at night. He actually 00:18:42.980 --> 00:18:45.000 says to them, he's like, you knew where I was 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:49.420 during the day. Why are you here right now? Jesus 00:18:49.420 --> 00:18:51.500 is actually quoting the process back to them. 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:53.579 Correct, yeah. It's like, you know what? You 00:18:53.579 --> 00:18:55.059 guys don't know where I am during the day. Why 00:18:55.059 --> 00:18:57.559 would you come at night? Especially night of 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:00.039 the Sabbath, right? Like, what are you doing 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:03.000 here? Like, we just had our meal. What are you 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:10.000 doing? And armed, right? And armed, yeah. And 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:12.539 it's not Romans that come to get him. It's the 00:19:12.539 --> 00:19:16.940 people from the Jewish council. Not to mention, 00:19:17.019 --> 00:19:20.599 they do it quickly. We talked about death, burial, 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:23.339 resurrection of Jesus taking place. He's crucified 00:19:23.339 --> 00:19:25.720 and then rises three days later. This process 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:28.180 is he's arrested at night and the next day he's 00:19:28.180 --> 00:19:32.579 put to death. Later Jewish legal tradition emphasizes 00:19:32.579 --> 00:19:35.319 caution in capital cases. They have to have multiple 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:38.339 witnesses and there needs to be careful deliberation. 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:41.000 You and I are going to talk about this Sunday 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:42.859 because we're going to be preaching on Leviticus. 00:19:43.019 --> 00:19:45.519 But very frequently in Leviticus, they talk about 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:46.880 taking somebody out and stoning them. They talk 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:49.000 about putting them to death. But this is also 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:52.400 ancient Kodal language. And it means that there 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:54.640 are firm boundaries on these types of rules. 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:59.019 But if you actually read in Jewish historic documents, 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:01.660 they would say that it's very rare that they 00:20:01.660 --> 00:20:03.900 would actually put somebody to death. But it 00:20:03.900 --> 00:20:06.700 is a very firm thing, and they might be exiled, 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:08.359 they might be kicked out of the family, some 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:09.960 things like that, but it's very rare that they 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:12.039 would actually put somebody to death. But that's 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:15.619 how ancient codes are written. So they arrest 00:20:15.619 --> 00:20:18.319 and kill within one day. Very, very irregular. 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:23.099 This is very, very strange. And then a number 00:20:23.099 --> 00:20:25.099 of scholars, N .T. Wright specifically, note 00:20:25.099 --> 00:20:28.920 that when the high priest tears his cloak because 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:32.180 of the blasphemy, it's kind of a piece of dramatic 00:20:32.180 --> 00:20:36.059 flair. Right. It's just very, very, very, very 00:20:36.059 --> 00:20:38.779 dramatic. At minimum, the Gospels emphasize a 00:20:38.779 --> 00:20:40.779 collapse of integrity in the court that claims 00:20:40.779 --> 00:20:44.500 to represent God. And I think even like just 00:20:44.500 --> 00:20:46.240 a cursory reading, listeners, if you're just 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:48.440 reading that, you probably know. Right. You're 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:50.019 reading that. You're like, this all seems kind 00:20:50.019 --> 00:20:52.839 of sketchy. I mean, I know that we have our legal 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:55.839 system of America, but you're like arrested and 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:59.160 then killed the next day. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. 00:21:01.099 --> 00:21:03.339 uh again if you're like well how exactly should 00:21:03.339 --> 00:21:06.039 trials work we went over that a little bit you 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:08.799 can type on your keyboard and like look that 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:11.319 up from a jewish context back in the day but 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:14.559 it was supposed to be a deliberate process and 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:16.740 putting someone to death actually wasn't the 00:21:16.740 --> 00:21:19.789 go -to move in most cases Blasphemy technically 00:21:19.789 --> 00:21:25.109 was, right? But they actually, in Torah, there's 00:21:25.109 --> 00:21:28.029 a call to set up sanctuary cities, right? People 00:21:28.029 --> 00:21:30.089 to flee, yep. For people to flee and have safe 00:21:30.089 --> 00:21:34.410 harbor. There's a call for restitution every 00:21:34.410 --> 00:21:38.109 seven years. Like if you're paying off a debt, 00:21:38.210 --> 00:21:41.069 every seven years that debt is gone and you have 00:21:41.069 --> 00:21:43.430 a fresh start, right? There's all these calls 00:21:43.430 --> 00:21:46.589 that value the person. Well, and even the other 00:21:46.589 --> 00:21:48.869 laws are meant to always bring people back to 00:21:48.869 --> 00:21:51.750 God. It's all about restorative. And we read 00:21:51.750 --> 00:21:54.230 them now, and we're like, oh, man, they are harsh. 00:21:54.349 --> 00:21:56.289 They are meant to be cutting people off. Like, 00:21:56.329 --> 00:21:59.250 you better obey or else. No, they're actually 00:21:59.250 --> 00:22:01.190 directly opposed to that. They're like, God wants 00:22:01.190 --> 00:22:03.890 you back. These are firm guidelines, but we need 00:22:03.890 --> 00:22:06.849 you back. And if you're like... Torah is merciful? 00:22:07.069 --> 00:22:08.930 I was like, yes, it is because God's merciful. 00:22:09.390 --> 00:22:13.210 And you also can tell that it's merciful if you 00:22:13.210 --> 00:22:16.710 just go read the legal proceedings of the Amalekites. 00:22:16.930 --> 00:22:19.849 Or the Egyptians, the Code of Hammurabi, right? 00:22:19.990 --> 00:22:21.690 You go start reading some of those things and 00:22:21.690 --> 00:22:23.750 you're like, oh, this is what the Bible is pushing 00:22:23.750 --> 00:22:26.660 against. Yeah, it's very dramatically different. 00:22:26.859 --> 00:22:30.160 Yeah. So with that said, you have kind of the 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.240 Sadducees and everyone in play here, they're 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:36.710 kind of slipping into this like, okay. We want 00:22:36.710 --> 00:22:39.309 this person dead. What do we have to do, even 00:22:39.309 --> 00:22:42.329 if it's corrupt, to make it happen? Right. The 00:22:42.329 --> 00:22:44.609 system that's supposed to be about justice is 00:22:44.609 --> 00:22:48.109 anything but. So John specifically, when he's 00:22:48.109 --> 00:22:49.569 writing about this, really talks about how Jesus 00:22:49.569 --> 00:22:51.910 is controlling the situation. John 18 kind of 00:22:51.910 --> 00:22:54.349 references this going on. He answers in a way 00:22:54.349 --> 00:22:56.690 that reveals heart. And when he's with the Sanhedrin, 00:22:56.690 --> 00:22:59.049 he's like, do you actually want truth? Right? 00:22:59.230 --> 00:23:02.230 Or do you want a verdict? Pilate, do you actually 00:23:02.230 --> 00:23:05.630 want truth or do you want safety? Herod, do you 00:23:05.630 --> 00:23:08.309 want God or do you want entertainment? Yeah. 00:23:08.369 --> 00:23:13.329 Right? And they stand. They stand with a real 00:23:13.329 --> 00:23:15.069 judgment. Because when you get done with each 00:23:15.069 --> 00:23:16.769 of these groups, there's really a judgment. It's 00:23:16.769 --> 00:23:19.670 like the Sanhedrin is religion without justice. 00:23:20.049 --> 00:23:27.779 Right? Pilate is power without courage. Here 00:23:27.779 --> 00:23:31.000 it is, curiosity without repentance, right? Without 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:33.440 actually wanting to be a part of it. Yet Jesus 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:37.859 goes to the cross anyway. Yeah. Like for them 00:23:37.859 --> 00:23:40.400 and for us, all three of them are guilty of their 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:45.720 own things. And Jesus still goes willingly, even 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:47.680 though he could call the angels at any point. 00:23:47.779 --> 00:23:51.119 And he willingly confronts the powers and the 00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:52.740 principalities, as Paul's going to talk about 00:23:52.740 --> 00:23:56.559 it. The powers of... religion institution yeah 00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:59.319 the political institutions and like the regional 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:02.380 institutions like he confronts their power and 00:24:02.380 --> 00:24:06.200 is like nah bro It's going to be different. And 00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:08.019 all of y 'all have messed up, but I'm still going 00:24:08.019 --> 00:24:10.000 to go there for you. We're going to get some 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:15.480 stuff sent in on this one. Care of Spencer McDowell 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:19.059 at Love and Context Podcast. Yeah, send it to 00:24:19.059 --> 00:24:20.759 Spencer McDowell at Love and Context Podcast 00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:22.720 because that will get bounced right back to you. 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:24.980 I have no idea where that would go. I don't either. 00:24:25.180 --> 00:24:29.500 But it's also important to note that Jesus didn't 00:24:29.500 --> 00:24:33.170 want to do this. Like he did it because he loves 00:24:33.170 --> 00:24:35.630 us. Right. But you have in the garden where he's 00:24:35.630 --> 00:24:38.089 like, Lord, take this cup from me. Yeah. Right. 00:24:38.170 --> 00:24:40.029 I don't want to do this. We talked about that. 00:24:40.089 --> 00:24:42.029 Yeah. Right. He was like, I don't want to do 00:24:42.029 --> 00:24:44.289 this, but I know that you need this done. Yeah. 00:24:44.450 --> 00:24:46.589 But I've heard in biblical teaching a lot of 00:24:46.589 --> 00:24:48.789 times like, oh, Jesus wanted to go to the cross. 00:24:48.869 --> 00:24:52.569 I was like, no, he did it because he loves us. 00:24:52.769 --> 00:24:55.289 I think it's more accurate to say Jesus wanted 00:24:55.289 --> 00:24:58.170 the result of going to the cross. Yeah. But he 00:24:58.170 --> 00:25:00.900 did not want to go there. Yeah. Right. Right. 00:25:01.140 --> 00:25:03.339 And because it's pretty clear he doesn't like 00:25:03.339 --> 00:25:05.039 it. He's dripping sweat that looks like blood. 00:25:05.140 --> 00:25:07.420 Yeah. And I have conversations with students 00:25:07.420 --> 00:25:09.619 every day where I was like, hey, I know you don't 00:25:09.619 --> 00:25:11.539 want to be doing this right now, but every day 00:25:11.539 --> 00:25:14.460 everybody has things they don't want to do. Yeah. 00:25:14.539 --> 00:25:17.319 Right. Every day we have things we don't want 00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:19.910 to do and we have to be OK with that. And we 00:25:19.910 --> 00:25:23.150 still have to find a way to do that. And actually, 00:25:23.549 --> 00:25:25.069 I had one kid. Like, what's one thing you do 00:25:25.069 --> 00:25:26.390 at your house that you don't want to do? I was 00:25:26.390 --> 00:25:28.829 like, clean the toilets, do the dishes, laundry, 00:25:29.309 --> 00:25:33.069 fix the siding, fix the floor, rip out drywall 00:25:33.069 --> 00:25:34.910 when I have to fix electrical issues. And I just 00:25:34.910 --> 00:25:37.690 rambled down this list. Yeah, there's a lot of 00:25:37.690 --> 00:25:39.089 things you do in your house that you don't want 00:25:39.089 --> 00:25:43.269 to do, but you want at home. Yeah, but that's 00:25:43.269 --> 00:25:46.069 the thing. It's like we have to realize that. 00:25:46.349 --> 00:25:48.710 When we are reaching the lost, when we are going 00:25:48.710 --> 00:25:53.750 into places where there's people who need Jesus, 00:25:53.950 --> 00:25:57.089 we might have to do some things we don't want 00:25:57.089 --> 00:26:01.619 to do. Yeah. Right? I think there's also, when 00:26:01.619 --> 00:26:04.420 we are reading these, and because I encouraged 00:26:04.420 --> 00:26:05.900 us when we were listening to Jesus confronting 00:26:05.900 --> 00:26:08.680 the leadership, I think that we need to be careful 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.160 and say, hey, do any of these infiltrate us? 00:26:11.339 --> 00:26:13.460 Are we guilty of any of these things that we 00:26:13.460 --> 00:26:15.880 want? We want to be entertained, and we have 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:17.480 contempt for things that don't do what we want 00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:20.960 them to do. There is three theological lenses 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:23.359 that I kind of put here that I thought were really 00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:24.839 interesting that takes place in these trials. 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:27.799 There's substitution and irony. Right. In that 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:30.500 the innocent is condemned so that the guilty 00:26:30.500 --> 00:26:33.799 can go free with Barabbas. Right. And that the 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:36.519 judge of the world, Jesus, the only one capable 00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:38.400 of judging the world is then judged by the world. 00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:42.180 Yeah. Right. Yeah. There's also this kingdom 00:26:42.180 --> 00:26:44.740 of God clashing with the kingdom of man. Jesus's 00:26:44.740 --> 00:26:48.359 kingdom is not built by coercion. That's why 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:50.299 both the religious and the political systems 00:26:50.299 --> 00:26:55.069 do not get him. Because both religious and political 00:26:55.069 --> 00:26:58.369 systems rely on coercion a lot of times. By the 00:26:58.369 --> 00:27:00.210 way, if you have to be convinced to follow God, 00:27:00.650 --> 00:27:04.569 it's problematic. You shouldn't have to convince 00:27:04.569 --> 00:27:07.490 people to follow Jesus. There is an invitation. 00:27:09.329 --> 00:27:11.329 But you have to be willing to lay your life down. 00:27:11.769 --> 00:27:15.390 And then the last one is this motif of truth 00:27:15.390 --> 00:27:16.869 that comes up very frequently in this conversation. 00:27:17.130 --> 00:27:20.990 Jesus says, I came to bear witness to the truth. 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:25.079 and pilot's like what is truth and then goes 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:28.839 and promptly ignores it right claiming to want 00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:31.059 truth but when truth is staring you in the face 00:27:31.059 --> 00:27:35.099 you're like it's not the truth i want it's not 00:27:35.099 --> 00:27:37.839 the truth i want right it's not speaking my truth 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.960 right Side note, if you want a good little listen 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:46.559 on Jesus and Barabbas, Judas Smith does a really 00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:49.579 good sermon. This was 15, 20 years ago, but still 00:27:49.579 --> 00:27:51.960 really good. I'll see if I can find it and throw 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:53.740 it in the show notes. If it's not there, you 00:27:53.740 --> 00:27:56.480 know that I didn't find it. You should be able 00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:05.519 to find it on YouTube pretty easily. I think 00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:09.859 I wanted to slow down and just really understand 00:28:09.859 --> 00:28:12.579 what was going on here. Because Jesus, later 00:28:12.579 --> 00:28:16.519 when Paul is talking in Ephesians and other books, 00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:18.359 and he's talking about the powers and the principalities, 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:21.319 this is what's going on right now. It's not actually 00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:23.980 people that Jesus is warring with. He's warring 00:28:23.980 --> 00:28:26.619 against the powers behind the people. And he's 00:28:26.619 --> 00:28:28.799 overcoming each one of them, ultimately going 00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:30.680 to his coronation, which we're going to talk 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:31.960 about next week, which happens on the cross. 00:28:32.789 --> 00:28:35.130 Two weeks on the crucifixion and one week on 00:28:35.130 --> 00:28:37.950 the resurrection. And just talking about those, 00:28:38.009 --> 00:28:39.369 we may even talk about some of the things that 00:28:39.369 --> 00:28:41.890 people say are in the text or not in the text, 00:28:41.890 --> 00:28:46.750 but are definitely there. Yes, people do that. 00:28:46.869 --> 00:28:49.410 Yeah, they do that sometimes. We're going to 00:28:49.410 --> 00:28:51.490 talk about the crucifixion itself and what's 00:28:51.490 --> 00:28:53.430 going on in that process. But then I think the 00:28:53.430 --> 00:28:55.130 second week, you and I talked about just talking 00:28:55.130 --> 00:28:57.089 about what is the sermon that Jesus preaches 00:28:57.089 --> 00:29:00.109 from the cross. And we're going to actually go 00:29:00.109 --> 00:29:01.390 and we're going to pull out what he's actually 00:29:01.390 --> 00:29:03.809 preaching to them while he's sitting there dying. 00:29:03.970 --> 00:29:09.470 Yeah. Because it's pretty cool. Yeah. Well, I 00:29:09.470 --> 00:29:11.849 was like staring you down. You're like, which 00:29:11.849 --> 00:29:14.569 of us is going to say it? I got it. Yeah, I got 00:29:14.569 --> 00:29:17.730 it. There is a lot to dissect in what we just 00:29:17.730 --> 00:29:21.390 covered. So this just if you want to dive deeper 00:29:21.390 --> 00:29:25.230 into just his trial, please do. We just kind 00:29:25.230 --> 00:29:28.089 of skipped a stone. on it there's a lot more 00:29:28.089 --> 00:29:31.009 going on yeah and please dive deeper into that 00:29:31.009 --> 00:29:33.529 um so but we're just gonna let you take what 00:29:33.529 --> 00:29:35.609 you want to take from that yeah all right so 00:29:35.609 --> 00:29:41.630 we look forward to next time bye And that's a 00:29:41.630 --> 00:29:44.049 wrap for today's episode of Love and Context. 00:29:44.130 --> 00:29:46.269 We hope this conversation encouraged you and 00:29:46.269 --> 00:29:48.569 gave you fresh insights into how we can better 00:29:48.569 --> 00:29:50.730 love God and others through the powerful truths 00:29:50.730 --> 00:29:53.369 of the Bible. We'd love to hear from you. Send 00:29:53.369 --> 00:29:56.589 your questions, thoughts, or suggestions to loveandcontext 00:29:56.589 --> 00:29:59.329 at gmail .com. 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