WEBVTT 00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:06.019 Welcome to Season 3 of Love & Context. This season, 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:08.640 we're exploring the life of Jesus step -by -step 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:11.140 and uncovering what His story teaches us about 00:00:11.140 --> 00:00:13.919 loving God and others. Here on Love & Context, 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:16.059 we're all about having real conversations about 00:00:16.059 --> 00:00:18.140 how to live out that love in practical, everyday 00:00:18.140 --> 00:00:20.199 ways, and understanding the Bible in its full 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:22.839 context. We're so glad you're here. Let's dive 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:28.500 into Season 3 of Love & Context. Welcome back 00:00:28.500 --> 00:00:30.780 to the Love and Context podcast. You probably 00:00:30.780 --> 00:00:33.439 thought we were gone forever, but we're not. 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:36.439 Some of you were rejoicing, and some of you were 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:39.780 like, crap, they're back. In which case, if you're 00:00:39.780 --> 00:00:41.960 like, crap, they're back, you don't have to listen. 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:43.899 Yeah, it's true. I was going to say, if they're 00:00:43.899 --> 00:00:45.619 rejoicing that we're not on there, they could 00:00:45.619 --> 00:00:48.619 just always block us, too. I won't take that 00:00:48.619 --> 00:00:50.640 terribly offensively. Spencer will cry himself 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:53.780 to sleep. No, we had a really good holiday season, 00:00:53.979 --> 00:00:59.320 but then we got back, and I had zero voice. So 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:03.109 I always do this impersonation. person on a Sunday 00:01:03.109 --> 00:01:04.609 morning, I sometimes will get there and tell 00:01:04.609 --> 00:01:05.790 her she has to leave the singing and I'll be 00:01:05.790 --> 00:01:08.290 like, my voice is just shot and I can't do anything. 00:01:08.409 --> 00:01:10.489 Right. But then my voice actually sounded like 00:01:10.489 --> 00:01:13.209 that. So we got to Sunday morning and I was talking 00:01:13.209 --> 00:01:15.250 and she's like, ha ha ha ha. And I was like, 00:01:15.329 --> 00:01:19.209 no, this is real. So, you know, hoisted on my 00:01:19.209 --> 00:01:22.390 own petard on that one. Right. Right. But before 00:01:22.390 --> 00:01:25.790 we left off, we were going through Jesus confronting 00:01:25.790 --> 00:01:27.010 leadership and going through all the different 00:01:27.010 --> 00:01:28.590 things that are going on there. And the next 00:01:28.590 --> 00:01:30.810 portion in our story of the life of Jesus is 00:01:30.810 --> 00:01:34.400 the Lord's. Supper. Yes. Supper or dinner. Yes. 00:01:34.939 --> 00:01:38.060 This is a fantastic story on so many levels. 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:43.040 And I think you should preface this with we are 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:46.239 going to be mostly referencing Matthew, but read 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:48.760 John's account. Yeah. The back half, I think 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:50.200 we're going to emphasize John because he talks 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:52.439 about some different things. Yeah. And so they're 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:54.599 coming at the same thing from different points 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:57.099 of view. But also there's parts of the story 00:01:57.099 --> 00:02:02.319 that we just skim over. And so. As we talk about 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:05.819 that, a few of you might be like, dear Lord, 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.280 what are they saying right now? Just stick with 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:10.099 us. Yeah, we'll get there. We'll get there. Okay. 00:02:11.050 --> 00:02:13.229 Incidentally, if for whatever reason it looks 00:02:13.229 --> 00:02:15.509 like there was a cut on the video and then it 00:02:15.509 --> 00:02:17.250 goes back to Spencer and he looks like he's got 00:02:17.250 --> 00:02:19.210 his mouth full of food, I see macaroni salad 00:02:19.210 --> 00:02:21.969 over there. So there's always a possibility between 00:02:21.969 --> 00:02:24.250 statements. He'll be like, nom, nom, nom, nom, 00:02:24.270 --> 00:02:26.449 nom, nom. There's always a possibility. It's 00:02:26.449 --> 00:02:27.909 like cookies and cheese, man. You do that all 00:02:27.909 --> 00:02:29.810 the time. First thing I'm going to do, I'm just 00:02:29.810 --> 00:02:31.900 going to read the account in Matthew. and then 00:02:31.900 --> 00:02:33.159 we're going to reference some things, and then 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:34.280 we're going to talk about some things in John 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:35.539 at the end, but I'm just going to read the account. 00:02:35.900 --> 00:02:38.240 It is important to note all four Gospels actually 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:40.300 reference the Lord's Supper, so something important 00:02:40.300 --> 00:02:44.740 is happening here, right? In verse 17, in chapter 00:02:44.740 --> 00:03:06.560 26 of Matthew, it says, Okay, I'm going to pause 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:07.639 here because I was actually thinking of something 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:10.620 funny. You know how you can tell Jesus is God 00:03:10.620 --> 00:03:13.509 in this statement? Remember he tells Abraham, 00:03:13.669 --> 00:03:16.990 he says, go to a land I will show you. Jesus 00:03:16.990 --> 00:03:21.689 says, go to a certain man. Right? Very, very 00:03:21.689 --> 00:03:23.590 consistent with their instructions. I need you 00:03:23.590 --> 00:03:26.729 to go find a certain man. I need you to go to 00:03:26.729 --> 00:03:29.550 wherever I tell you to go. That was a random 00:03:29.550 --> 00:03:32.729 thing. Every time I read that, though, part of 00:03:32.729 --> 00:03:34.990 me wonders, like, did Matthew just forget the 00:03:34.990 --> 00:03:36.729 guy's name that he was supposed to go to? He's 00:03:36.729 --> 00:03:44.400 like, I go to. Certain man. Let's see. That was 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:46.979 a joke. That was a joke, guys. No, it's so good. 00:03:48.099 --> 00:03:50.419 Let's see here. So the disciples did as Jesus 00:03:50.419 --> 00:03:53.900 had directed them to do and prepared the Passover. 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:56.500 When evening came, Jesus was reclining at the 00:03:56.500 --> 00:03:57.919 table with the twelve, and while they were eating, 00:03:58.039 --> 00:03:59.840 he said, Truly I tell you, one of you will betray 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:02.479 me. They were very sad and began to say to him, 00:04:02.500 --> 00:04:04.240 one after another, Surely you don't mean me, 00:04:04.340 --> 00:04:06.139 Lord. Jesus replied, The one who has dipped his 00:04:06.139 --> 00:04:08.319 hand into the bowl with me will betray me. The 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:11.960 Son of Man will... Go just as it is written about 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:14.419 him, but woe to that man who betrays the Son 00:04:14.419 --> 00:04:16.180 of Man. It would be better for him if he had 00:04:16.180 --> 00:04:18.259 not been born. Then Judas, the one who would 00:04:18.259 --> 00:04:20.379 betray him, said, Surely you don't mean me, Rabbi. 00:04:20.939 --> 00:04:23.519 Jesus answered, You have said so. While they 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:25.459 were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had 00:04:25.459 --> 00:04:27.060 given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his 00:04:27.060 --> 00:04:29.180 disciples, saying, Take and eat. This is my body. 00:04:49.530 --> 00:04:52.029 Which is just a mountain of olives. No, just 00:04:52.029 --> 00:04:53.949 kidding. That is, it's a mountain where they 00:04:53.949 --> 00:04:59.160 grow olives. Yes, yes. The Synoptic Gospels are 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.240 going to emphasize the Passover setting, the 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:03.399 meal, the bread, and the cup. The Gospel of John 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:05.420 is going to specifically emphasize foot -washing, 00:05:05.459 --> 00:05:07.899 betrayal, and this long farewell discourse that 00:05:07.899 --> 00:05:13.240 Jesus is going to give them. And this is a foundational 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:15.220 night. So a couple of things that we want to 00:05:15.220 --> 00:05:16.980 make sure that everybody's clear on when they're 00:05:16.980 --> 00:05:19.720 actually reading this. They are celebrating the 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.759 Passover dinner. This is from the Exodus. If 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:24.800 you remember our episode there when we talked 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:27.699 about that God institutes Passover, he institutes 00:05:27.699 --> 00:05:29.819 Sabbath, and a few other things that are going 00:05:29.819 --> 00:05:32.100 on there. This is a meal that they have every 00:05:32.100 --> 00:05:35.360 year. So this is the context for which he's sitting 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:37.740 down. So the bread and the cup are part of that 00:05:37.740 --> 00:05:39.959 meal. He just does something different with it 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:43.720 in the middle of it. He gives them the new covenant 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:45.800 in his blood. There's going to be this thing 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:47.399 about the servant leadership. It's going to be 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:49.860 about betrayal, denial, this kingdom table fellowship, 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:53.300 eating with Jesus before his suffering. But there's 00:05:53.300 --> 00:05:54.879 going to be teachings on love, unity, and the 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.160 spirit, which, by the way, is probably going 00:05:57.160 --> 00:06:00.279 to be a very long talking point for us because 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.139 that seems to be a place we struggle in the church. 00:06:03.660 --> 00:06:07.000 So the Passover commemorates God rescuing them 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:09.860 from slavery. And if you remember, there is a 00:06:09.860 --> 00:06:12.259 lamb without defect that's sacrificed. There's 00:06:12.259 --> 00:06:14.160 blood on the doorposts, so the judgment would 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:16.439 pass over. There's unleavened bread because there's 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:18.019 no time for the dough to rise. They need to leave 00:06:18.019 --> 00:06:21.120 really quickly. And there are these bitter herbs 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:22.800 because of the taste of slavery and suffering. 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:24.920 So this is all going on during this. And so when 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.680 Jewish readers read Matthew and they say it was 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:29.879 a time of the Passover, they're like, I know 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:31.779 exactly what's going on. This is a symbol that's 00:06:31.779 --> 00:06:34.019 going on in the middle of this. It's about liberation. 00:06:34.670 --> 00:06:36.990 It's about judgment and mercy, and it's about 00:06:36.990 --> 00:06:41.870 covenant identity as God's people. In Jesus' 00:06:42.009 --> 00:06:45.370 time, by that time, they kind of had this Passover 00:06:45.370 --> 00:06:48.149 Seder ritual where there's like structured order. 00:06:48.230 --> 00:06:50.170 There's blessings, questions, this retelling 00:06:50.170 --> 00:06:53.069 of the Exodus. There's multiple cups of wine, 00:06:53.149 --> 00:06:55.550 which, by the way, is a great teaching that Marty 00:06:55.550 --> 00:07:00.699 Solomon has on this fifth cup. They sing psalms, 00:07:00.699 --> 00:07:03.540 the Hallel, sometimes Psalms 113 through 118. 00:07:04.180 --> 00:07:06.339 The host then explains the meaning of each element 00:07:06.339 --> 00:07:09.360 as they're going through. Incidentally, there 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:11.459 is a lot of scholars who talk about the fact 00:07:11.459 --> 00:07:13.259 that they went out and they sung a hymn. It's 00:07:13.259 --> 00:07:14.680 probably one of the Hallels. They were probably 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:16.939 singing one of the psalms. Yeah. Right, because 00:07:16.939 --> 00:07:18.459 it's pretty common. What Jesus ends up doing 00:07:18.459 --> 00:07:21.680 here is he says, hey, you know how this story 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:26.930 is our story? Mm -hmm. It's also my story, and 00:07:26.930 --> 00:07:28.410 there's something about to happen that's going 00:07:28.410 --> 00:07:31.410 to be significant for you. This bread, this bread 00:07:31.410 --> 00:07:33.310 that you ate in the desert, this bread that you 00:07:33.310 --> 00:07:35.129 ate on the way out of Egypt, it's actually my 00:07:35.129 --> 00:07:39.589 body. Yeah. This cup of deliverance, it's actually 00:07:39.589 --> 00:07:43.029 my blood of a new covenant that's coming. And 00:07:43.029 --> 00:07:44.029 you're like, they're sitting here in the middle 00:07:44.029 --> 00:07:45.569 of this, and you got to think that this apple's 00:07:45.569 --> 00:07:49.519 going, what? Right? It's kind of like when he 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:51.279 told them, he's like, unless you physically eat 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:53.839 my flesh and you physically drink my blood, they're 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:57.540 like, is Jesus wanting us to be cannibals? Right? 00:07:58.579 --> 00:08:01.399 Not so much. Yeah. I'm going to ruffle feathers 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:04.779 with this one. Go for it. Prepare your feathers. 00:08:04.980 --> 00:08:07.850 Yes. Prepare your gastid to be flabbered. I want 00:08:07.850 --> 00:08:10.670 to preface what I'm going to say with it is not 00:08:10.670 --> 00:08:13.490 to downplay the sacredness or the holiness of 00:08:13.490 --> 00:08:15.870 this moment in time, right? This is mentioned 00:08:15.870 --> 00:08:19.689 in all four Gospels, right? This is where we 00:08:19.689 --> 00:08:22.490 get communion, the taking of the elements. This 00:08:22.490 --> 00:08:26.529 is a beautiful piece of Scripture. Put yourself 00:08:26.529 --> 00:08:30.170 in the disciples' shoes, though, where Jesus 00:08:30.170 --> 00:08:32.490 is like, all right, one of you is going to betray 00:08:32.490 --> 00:08:37.580 me. All right, now, by the way, this bread, It's 00:08:37.580 --> 00:08:40.779 my body. Eat it. This cup is my blood. Drink 00:08:40.779 --> 00:08:45.639 it. Right? Those concepts, we have the idea of 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.279 blood from Exodus on the doorpost, right? And 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:50.740 even in Exodus 24, Moses sprinkles them on the 00:08:50.740 --> 00:08:52.700 covenant. He sprinkles blood on the people. Yes. 00:08:52.740 --> 00:08:55.200 Right? Yeah. And then you have the idea of unleavened 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:57.740 bread, right? And now Jesus is saying, hey, I'm 00:08:57.740 --> 00:09:00.399 the fulfillment of that. Yeah. Right? Right. 00:09:00.899 --> 00:09:02.899 The people that are sitting around that table 00:09:02.899 --> 00:09:05.940 are probably thinking this is a pretty weird 00:09:05.940 --> 00:09:09.019 thing that's going on. Yeah, I mean, there's 00:09:09.019 --> 00:09:11.019 clues, but they're probably not completely latched 00:09:11.019 --> 00:09:14.399 onto it. Yeah. And so, for lack of a better term, 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:16.340 this is a little bit of an awkward family dinner 00:09:16.340 --> 00:09:18.940 at this point. Sure. Right? Like, oh, by the 00:09:18.940 --> 00:09:22.320 way, one of you is going to betray me. Oh, it's 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:24.440 not going to be me. He's like, you said it, all 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:29.580 right? Yeah. As you say, right? And then, by 00:09:29.580 --> 00:09:32.259 the way, here are the elements. It's one of those 00:09:32.259 --> 00:09:35.860 things where if you... they probably don't have 00:09:35.860 --> 00:09:37.779 all the clues right there in front of them to 00:09:37.779 --> 00:09:40.259 be like, what is going on? How is Jesus fulfilling 00:09:40.259 --> 00:09:42.759 everything? It's really easy for us to look hindsight 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:45.200 and say, this is how Jesus fulfilled everything, 00:09:45.379 --> 00:09:49.480 and this is how the representation of his body 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:51.639 and his blood. Well, and even Matthew is writing 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:54.639 this after the fact with hindsight, right? Yeah. 00:09:54.899 --> 00:09:57.720 He's like writing the story, yes, as it happened, 00:09:57.740 --> 00:10:00.960 but he's also like, I know what you were doing, 00:10:01.100 --> 00:10:05.940 right? Right. There's also a piece where he says, 00:10:06.100 --> 00:10:08.139 I won't drink this cup again with you until I 00:10:08.139 --> 00:10:10.240 drink it with you in my father's household. If 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:14.220 he's evoking Exodus, Sinai, giving of the law, 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:16.220 like these different things that are being evoked, 00:10:16.340 --> 00:10:18.799 they often view Sinai as a wedding ceremony between 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:21.679 God and his people. Jesus making this statement, 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:23.200 that's actually a statement you make to your 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:25.559 betrothed when you go to create a place for them. 00:10:25.700 --> 00:10:28.179 Yeah. Right? He said, I'm not going to drink 00:10:28.179 --> 00:10:31.659 this wine until I have it with you again in my... 00:10:31.850 --> 00:10:33.990 father's house because what did they do in the 00:10:33.990 --> 00:10:35.570 middle east they built onto their father's house 00:10:35.570 --> 00:10:37.830 and that's where you bring your wife right and 00:10:37.830 --> 00:10:41.009 so like there it's it's just laden with um it 00:10:41.009 --> 00:10:44.730 is laden with um wedding imagery as well And 00:10:44.730 --> 00:10:46.769 so, you know, this whole thing has been, he's 00:10:46.769 --> 00:10:49.590 been laying wedding imagery on fairly thick throughout 00:10:49.590 --> 00:10:52.789 the gospels with like the bridegroom, the people 00:10:52.789 --> 00:10:55.850 with the oil waiting for the people to come for 00:10:55.850 --> 00:10:59.269 the wedding ceremony. He's talked about the betrothed. 00:10:59.269 --> 00:11:01.570 He's talked about the bridegroom. There's a reason 00:11:01.570 --> 00:11:03.230 we're called the bride of Christ. It's an analogy. 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:07.299 I always love it in Ephesians when Paul goes 00:11:07.299 --> 00:11:09.820 through and he talks about men and women working 00:11:09.820 --> 00:11:11.600 together, submitting to each other. He's like, 00:11:11.659 --> 00:11:15.519 this is a great analogy, but I'm actually talking 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:18.320 about Christ in the church, right? He's like, 00:11:18.340 --> 00:11:20.940 this is a great analogy. It's actually about 00:11:20.940 --> 00:11:23.860 Christ in the church, right? Yeah, because it's 00:11:23.860 --> 00:11:26.659 one of the most intimate relationships we have 00:11:26.659 --> 00:11:31.940 on earth. Now, the flip side of that is in the 00:11:31.940 --> 00:11:35.080 Gospel of John, Before these type of things happened, 00:11:35.419 --> 00:11:38.039 because I have one more thing I think is pretty 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:40.039 significant with Judas. Did you ruffle feathers 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:42.659 yet? A little bit with the awkward family dinner. 00:11:42.820 --> 00:11:45.519 Do you have more? I can keep going. Okay. But 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:51.070 it more pertains to John's gospel. Okay. So one 00:11:51.070 --> 00:11:53.190 of the first things that Jesus does is he does 00:11:53.190 --> 00:11:54.990 this foot washing. We've talked about foot washing 00:11:54.990 --> 00:11:58.289 a lot. But you and I, it was a couple years ago 00:11:58.289 --> 00:12:00.289 we preached on this. We said Jesus is at the 00:12:00.289 --> 00:12:03.309 height of his power. It says, Jesus, knowing 00:12:03.309 --> 00:12:07.610 all things, are under his authority. Takes off 00:12:07.610 --> 00:12:09.950 his outer coat, gets down on his knees, and starts 00:12:09.950 --> 00:12:14.250 washing feet. Nasty, gross, disgusting feet. 00:12:15.169 --> 00:12:22.960 This is not modern pedicure. Feet. Yeah. So we've 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:25.059 talked about this too. Yeah. The roads of which 00:12:25.059 --> 00:12:27.240 they traveled on was the same roads of which 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:30.379 animals traveled on. Yep. And they wore sandals. 00:12:30.460 --> 00:12:32.399 Yep. I'll let you guys put two and two together 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:34.919 there. Yeah. All right. These feet were not clean. 00:12:35.820 --> 00:12:39.080 Poop. Yes. Poop. Lots of poop. Yeah. And so you 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:41.840 have Jesus washing feet. Yep. Important to note, 00:12:41.860 --> 00:12:45.590 he's washing Judas' feet. Mm -hmm. And then the 00:12:45.590 --> 00:12:47.789 other thing we kind of get backwards is the conversation 00:12:47.789 --> 00:12:51.970 between Peter and Jesus. Because we look at that 00:12:51.970 --> 00:12:53.669 and we're like, come on, Peter, see what Jesus 00:12:53.669 --> 00:12:57.070 is doing. See what he's doing. Peter, in his 00:12:57.070 --> 00:12:59.750 mind, is probably thinking, no, I'm in the right 00:12:59.750 --> 00:13:04.879 in this conversation. my rabbi should not be 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:07.440 humiliating himself like this. Right. Right. 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:10.419 And so, and we often overlook that side of things 00:13:10.419 --> 00:13:12.320 where Peter's like, no, where he's like, no, 00:13:12.340 --> 00:13:13.779 Jesus, if you're going to do this, you need to 00:13:13.779 --> 00:13:16.379 wash all of me. Yeah. Well, and there's, there's 00:13:16.379 --> 00:13:18.159 two things. One is he immediately recognizes 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:19.659 that he shouldn't be the one washing his feet. 00:13:19.820 --> 00:13:21.860 I actually was having a conversation with a good 00:13:21.860 --> 00:13:23.200 friend of mine and it might've been you too. 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:25.879 Cause I think we've talked about this too, but. 00:13:26.429 --> 00:13:27.950 One of the things that Moses... We've talked 00:13:27.950 --> 00:13:29.210 about the Bible before. Yeah, we've talked a 00:13:29.210 --> 00:13:31.350 couple times. You know, we've done it so many 00:13:31.350 --> 00:13:33.789 times, your wife is like... Oh, they're talking 00:13:33.789 --> 00:13:37.629 again, right? My wife purposely does not listen 00:13:37.629 --> 00:13:39.110 to the podcast because she's like, I'll just 00:13:39.110 --> 00:13:43.710 get the footnotes from you. But in the Torah, 00:13:43.950 --> 00:13:46.350 Moses, who Jesus has positioned himself as the 00:13:46.350 --> 00:13:50.190 second Moses, he actually washes the priest, 00:13:50.350 --> 00:13:52.070 right? He actually washes the priest before they 00:13:52.070 --> 00:13:54.250 go in to do the things that they're supposed 00:13:54.250 --> 00:13:57.370 to do. And I think in some ways, Peter is looking 00:13:57.370 --> 00:13:59.190 at that and he goes, well, if you're going to 00:13:59.190 --> 00:14:02.159 wash my feet, wash my head, wash my hands, all 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:04.720 these things. But Jesus is like, no, no, this 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:06.620 is something different than what you're thinking. 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:12.200 He doesn't rebuke him. He's like, no, that's 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:14.759 not quite. You're going to get this later, but 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:17.019 your hands are already clean. Your head's already 00:14:17.019 --> 00:14:21.139 clean. Something else is going on here. Yeah, 00:14:21.179 --> 00:14:23.240 and it's one of those conversations where Peter's 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:24.879 saying, no, no, this is not how it should be. 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:27.799 I know what the Old Testament says. He's referencing 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:31.149 that. And Jesus is, and Jesus is going, all right, 00:14:31.169 --> 00:14:33.830 you missed the point. Right. Just trust me. Right. 00:14:34.250 --> 00:14:36.870 And so, but a lot of times we fall at Peter and 00:14:36.870 --> 00:14:38.929 be like, oh, Peter, come on. Why don't you see 00:14:38.929 --> 00:14:42.230 what Jesus is doing? This would be the same as 00:14:42.230 --> 00:14:46.610 us listening to a sermon, a sermon someone preached, 00:14:46.610 --> 00:14:48.690 and they're preaching on one thing. And you say, 00:14:48.850 --> 00:14:50.730 oh, yeah, but the Old Testament says this, and 00:14:50.730 --> 00:14:52.470 there's this, this, and it also lines up here. 00:14:52.509 --> 00:14:54.309 But you're thinking of something completely different 00:14:54.309 --> 00:14:55.970 than what they're preaching on. Yeah. Right. 00:14:57.460 --> 00:14:59.960 As someone who's preached from the pulpit before, 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:02.500 there's been a couple times where I've gotten 00:15:02.500 --> 00:15:06.159 emails from people or text messages or phone 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:08.779 calls where after a sermon and they're like, 00:15:08.860 --> 00:15:10.740 I can't believe you said that. And then they're 00:15:10.740 --> 00:15:12.480 like, this is all the things that you got wrong 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:14.220 in your sermon. And I was like, that wasn't even 00:15:14.220 --> 00:15:18.000 what the sermon was about. That wasn't even what 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.039 I was talking about. And we can do that. I think 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:24.159 about one of the things that I find interesting 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:28.659 in... Jesus washing feet, is he has all the authority. 00:15:29.139 --> 00:15:32.720 He has all the power. But authority for Jesus 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:34.899 doesn't mean he sits on a throne for people to 00:15:34.899 --> 00:15:37.539 serve him. It actually frees him to kneel with 00:15:37.539 --> 00:15:40.580 a towel. Yeah. And it's one of those things about 00:15:40.580 --> 00:15:43.059 this upside -down kingdom of God is that the 00:15:43.059 --> 00:15:48.590 more authority, the more... I'm going to go say 00:15:48.590 --> 00:15:51.350 that you're given. Like the idea is that the 00:15:51.350 --> 00:15:53.929 more powerful you are, the more you serve, the 00:15:53.929 --> 00:15:56.009 more wealth you have, the more you share, the 00:15:56.009 --> 00:15:59.230 more love you have, you, you pour out, right. 00:15:59.289 --> 00:16:02.830 The more like you just like part of having authority, 00:16:02.870 --> 00:16:06.200 part of having. uh, being built up, being strong 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:08.500 is about helping those underneath you intentionally 00:16:08.500 --> 00:16:11.519 lowering yourself to lift people up. Yeah. Right. 00:16:11.940 --> 00:16:14.000 And, uh, and I was like, and if you don't think 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:16.159 that's true, Jesus Christ did it. And I guarantee 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:18.580 you, he was way cooler than you. Right. Yeah. 00:16:18.700 --> 00:16:21.000 I guarantee you. Cause I know him. I know a guy. 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:24.539 Yeah. Right. Uh, and he says, you know, I'm going 00:16:24.539 --> 00:16:27.240 to use my authority to serve, not to be served. 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:32.279 Right. Um, and, and I mean, truthfully, Peter's 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:34.580 reaction, and probably the other disciples, just 00:16:34.580 --> 00:16:36.100 Peter opens his mouth about it, they're all kind 00:16:36.100 --> 00:16:40.980 of embarrassed about it, right? Like, somebody 00:16:40.980 --> 00:16:44.039 you highly respect, and you're like, what are 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:48.059 you doing down in the gutter? Well, I think with 00:16:48.059 --> 00:16:52.700 the dynamics with the disciples, too, we often 00:16:52.700 --> 00:16:54.799 paint Peter as someone who's running his mouth, 00:16:54.980 --> 00:16:59.600 but Peter was also the elder of the disciples, 00:16:59.820 --> 00:17:05.690 right? At least 21? He was at least five years 00:17:05.690 --> 00:17:08.609 older. Yeah. Right? Estimates would say he's 00:17:08.609 --> 00:17:10.769 at least five years older. Yeah. He's the only 00:17:10.769 --> 00:17:13.490 one we can firmly place. Well, not firmly. We 00:17:13.490 --> 00:17:15.230 know he's older than 21 because you had to be 00:17:15.230 --> 00:17:17.670 21 to pay the sacrifice that he paid or the temple 00:17:17.670 --> 00:17:20.450 tax that he paid. But some of the disciples were 00:17:20.450 --> 00:17:22.309 hanging out with their dad, so they weren't even 00:17:22.309 --> 00:17:26.160 like 13, 14 yet. Yeah. The reason I bring this 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:28.420 up is we can often paint Peter saying like, oh 00:17:28.420 --> 00:17:30.180 man, he ran his mouth. I was like, did he run 00:17:30.180 --> 00:17:33.299 his mouth? Or was he the one that the other disciples 00:17:33.299 --> 00:17:36.019 went to? And he was the one that was actually 00:17:36.019 --> 00:17:38.619 like, felt like he was able to speak to Jesus 00:17:38.619 --> 00:17:43.779 about stuff. And I'm not saying that's biblically 00:17:43.779 --> 00:17:46.119 true. I'm not saying, I'm just saying that is 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:48.619 another theory that's out there. Yeah. I mean, 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:52.280 it's not a bad observation of a human. Yeah. 00:17:52.280 --> 00:17:54.420 Tendency to, yeah. The oldest tends to be the 00:17:54.420 --> 00:17:56.099 one who actually speak up. They're like, nudge, 00:17:56.099 --> 00:17:57.980 nudge. Hey, you gonna say something? Yeah. You 00:17:57.980 --> 00:18:01.220 know? Um, yeah. A couple of things that I think 00:18:01.220 --> 00:18:03.480 are really going on is, are interesting that 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:05.140 are going on here is Jesus kind of alludes to 00:18:05.140 --> 00:18:07.839 the fact that they're already clean. Yeah. Like 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:09.259 there's something about being in relationship 00:18:09.259 --> 00:18:11.759 with Jesus that you're already clean, but there 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:13.720 is also a need for relational cleaning. In other 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:15.619 words, like your feet get dirty sometimes and 00:18:15.619 --> 00:18:18.790 you're going to have to serve each other. Relationally, 00:18:18.790 --> 00:18:20.250 things are going to get messed up and you need 00:18:20.250 --> 00:18:21.829 to be able to serve each other too. You need 00:18:21.829 --> 00:18:24.470 to be able to wash your feet, literally and figuratively. 00:18:25.250 --> 00:18:27.410 Because he's like, you're going to get this later. 00:18:28.650 --> 00:18:32.470 Feet are going to get nasty. He doesn't say metaphorically, 00:18:32.549 --> 00:18:35.190 but it really feels implied that it's going to 00:18:35.190 --> 00:18:37.289 get metaphorically gross too. And if you've been 00:18:37.289 --> 00:18:39.369 in a relationship with anybody for any period 00:18:39.369 --> 00:18:42.769 of time, it happens. Sometimes you need to clean 00:18:42.769 --> 00:18:47.089 each other's feet. it's an example of how you're 00:18:47.089 --> 00:18:49.069 actually supposed to treat each other, which, 00:18:49.150 --> 00:18:51.869 you know, then goes into, uh, the, what is, what 00:18:51.869 --> 00:18:53.769 does that servant leadership look like? What 00:18:53.769 --> 00:18:55.390 does it, what does it look like on how we treat 00:18:55.390 --> 00:18:59.490 each other? Um, it's not soft leadership. It's 00:18:59.490 --> 00:19:02.569 cross shaped leadership, right? It's washing 00:19:02.569 --> 00:19:05.720 the feet leadership. It's. dying to yourself 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:07.480 leadership i was having a conversation with a 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:10.079 friend of mine today and i said um there's a 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:12.039 there's a book we both read and it was it was 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:14.680 a guy who was a missionary or a convert in china 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:16.599 and he was leading a ton of people to christ 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:18.339 and like there was a division in the churches 00:19:18.339 --> 00:19:23.099 and he was right right he was right the people 00:19:23.099 --> 00:19:25.720 who were causing division were wrong but they 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:29.119 were about to split the church over a disagreement. 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:33.240 And he got down on his knees crying and pleading 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:36.099 with them to not break unity over the fact that 00:19:36.099 --> 00:19:39.720 they disagree. And just beg them to come back 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:43.380 and we'll figure it out. And I said, what is 00:19:43.380 --> 00:19:48.400 it like when people who trust in Jesus live this 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.420 way? When you're so committed to finding unity 00:19:52.420 --> 00:19:54.680 that you're literally on your knees begging and 00:19:54.680 --> 00:19:57.390 pleading to find a way to work through it. Right. 00:19:57.690 --> 00:19:59.549 And what happens when it's not just one person, 00:19:59.569 --> 00:20:02.890 but it's two people. Right. They're like, I refuse 00:20:02.890 --> 00:20:06.490 to be broken fellowship from you. We are going 00:20:06.490 --> 00:20:10.130 to figure it out. Yeah. Right. I think it's crazy. 00:20:10.269 --> 00:20:12.009 Also, the foot washing, like you pointed out 00:20:12.009 --> 00:20:14.650 that Judas participates in the foot washing. 00:20:15.369 --> 00:20:18.069 Jesus washes Judas's feet. You know what else 00:20:18.069 --> 00:20:20.900 he does? in the book of Matthew, you'll see that 00:20:20.900 --> 00:20:22.680 he told him that he's going to be the one to 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:25.519 betray him. And then he takes the bread and breaks 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:27.980 it and blesses it and gives it to all of them, 00:20:28.039 --> 00:20:32.920 including Judas. And he takes the cup and he 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:35.680 blesses it and he gives it to all of them, including 00:20:35.680 --> 00:20:46.039 Judas. That's crazy. Yeah. Right? Like, he knows 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:48.380 exactly what's going to happen and he's like, 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:51.880 You are still welcome to the table anyways. Yeah. 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:57.180 Yeah. Right? Mm -hmm. I think it's interesting. 00:20:57.299 --> 00:20:59.019 And by the way, everybody has different traditions, 00:20:59.059 --> 00:21:02.039 so I'm by no means talking about your denominational 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:04.339 tradition. But it's interesting how we created 00:21:04.339 --> 00:21:09.279 a barrier to the table. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:11.779 Jesus is like, going to betray me? Send me off 00:21:11.779 --> 00:21:14.099 to get murdered? Mm -hmm. Come on in. Here you 00:21:14.099 --> 00:21:16.440 go. I'm going to wash your feet. Mm -hmm. I'm 00:21:16.440 --> 00:21:17.920 going to break my bread for you. Mm -hmm. I want 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:22.119 to give you some of the wine. Right? Yeah. Yeah. 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:25.779 I mean, it's a message for us to be like, okay, 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:28.380 how do we welcome people to the table and not 00:21:28.380 --> 00:21:33.640 worry about the outcomes? Yeah. Right? A pastor 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:39.779 that I grew up with, he used to always say, our 00:21:39.779 --> 00:21:42.900 job is to proclaim the gospel and do what the 00:21:42.900 --> 00:21:46.880 Lord says and not worry about the outcome. Right. 00:21:47.289 --> 00:21:49.569 He's like, if the Lord's prompting you to give 00:21:49.569 --> 00:21:53.269 $100 to a homeless person, you give $100 to that 00:21:53.269 --> 00:21:55.430 homeless person, you don't worry about what they're 00:21:55.430 --> 00:21:57.589 going to do with it. Yeah. That's between them 00:21:57.589 --> 00:22:01.150 and God. Yeah. Right? And we often overlook that 00:22:01.150 --> 00:22:05.339 because we will get... The flip side of this 00:22:05.339 --> 00:22:06.720 is we'll be like, okay, well, we want to be good 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:08.680 stewards of what we have. Absolutely, right? 00:22:09.259 --> 00:22:12.000 Okay, but are you being a good steward if you're 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:14.319 ignoring what the Lord's telling you to do? I'm 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:16.839 going to go with no. Yeah, right? And I've had 00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:18.819 people make that argument. I'm like, well, you 00:22:18.819 --> 00:22:20.880 don't want to give money to the homeless because 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:23.819 they're just going to go spend it on drugs and 00:22:23.819 --> 00:22:26.420 booze. I was like, maybe, but if the Lord's telling 00:22:26.420 --> 00:22:28.240 me to give them the money, am I being a good 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:30.799 steward with his money that he's told me to give 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:32.420 to them by saying, no, I'm going to keep it? 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:36.119 Yeah. I mean, no, but I'm agreeing with you. 00:22:36.220 --> 00:22:38.640 Yeah. There's actually a story in scripture about 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:42.119 three different guys that were given some money 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:46.039 to do good with. And actually go and invest in 00:22:46.039 --> 00:22:48.700 doing something. Yeah. Yeah. Invest in the kingdom. 00:22:49.299 --> 00:22:52.380 Yeah. There's one guy who didn't. It doesn't 00:22:52.380 --> 00:22:54.099 work well. He buries it in the dirt, keeps it 00:22:54.099 --> 00:22:58.440 for himself. Yeah. When I run into that situation, 00:22:58.559 --> 00:23:00.000 because I say, God, I don't want to be hard -hearted. 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:02.079 In this situation, I don't want to be this person. 00:23:02.339 --> 00:23:05.539 So if I have cash or whatever is available to 00:23:05.539 --> 00:23:08.119 help people out, I was like, I'm going to give 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:11.400 it to them unless you tell me not to. Yeah. Right? 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:13.799 And I was like, and if I'm taken advantage of, 00:23:13.819 --> 00:23:15.299 I'll be taken advantage of. But I want to be 00:23:15.299 --> 00:23:17.160 taken advantage of because I love people well. 00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:19.380 And I'll trust you to tell me when I shouldn't 00:23:19.380 --> 00:23:21.950 give them money. Yeah. Exactly. Right. And then 00:23:21.950 --> 00:23:24.069 the other portion of that is, is like, also sometimes 00:23:24.069 --> 00:23:26.230 I don't have like cash. I was like, but I have, 00:23:26.230 --> 00:23:27.970 I've had people where they're like, man, I'm 00:23:27.970 --> 00:23:29.210 really hungry. I was like, dude, let's go to 00:23:29.210 --> 00:23:31.029 the grocery store. We'll get you some food. Right. 00:23:32.470 --> 00:23:34.950 Yeah. Let's go. And you get to know them that 00:23:34.950 --> 00:23:37.849 way. Get to hear their life story. It's great. 00:23:38.049 --> 00:23:39.950 You can ask them, like, I'm able to ask questions 00:23:39.950 --> 00:23:41.890 like, you know, where are you staying? Yeah. 00:23:41.910 --> 00:23:44.430 Like, are you out in the rain? Do you, are you 00:23:44.430 --> 00:23:46.490 too cold? Do you have socks? Like those kinds 00:23:46.490 --> 00:23:48.549 of things. Like I can ask those things, you know? 00:23:49.109 --> 00:23:52.869 And, And the reality is that most people who 00:23:52.869 --> 00:23:54.930 are just looking for cash to go and do those 00:23:54.930 --> 00:23:57.309 things won't even go with you to the store. But 00:23:57.309 --> 00:24:00.029 your heart is in the right place doing the right 00:24:00.029 --> 00:24:03.230 thing, right? This idea of servant leadership, 00:24:03.369 --> 00:24:04.609 I want to come back here because I made a couple 00:24:04.609 --> 00:24:07.109 of notes here. Servant leadership, what does 00:24:07.109 --> 00:24:08.890 that actually look like? It's not soft leadership, 00:24:09.029 --> 00:24:10.970 but it's cross -shaped leadership. So it's not 00:24:10.970 --> 00:24:14.369 I have authority, I just have to be nice, right? 00:24:14.890 --> 00:24:16.789 It's I do have authority and influence, but I 00:24:16.789 --> 00:24:19.720 use it to lift people up. Take the lower place. 00:24:20.099 --> 00:24:23.400 Do the unglamorous work. Yeah. Seek others good, 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:26.420 not my own comfort. I have the authority, so 00:24:26.420 --> 00:24:29.059 I'm going to go do the low tasks. Yeah. Right? 00:24:31.940 --> 00:24:33.799 Some of the ways that you can check to see if 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:35.980 like, hey, how does my servant leadership actually 00:24:35.980 --> 00:24:38.420 look? Whose comfort comes first in your home? 00:24:38.740 --> 00:24:43.740 Marriage, ministry, workplace, right? When you 00:24:43.740 --> 00:24:45.299 actually have your role, do you serve people 00:24:45.299 --> 00:24:50.839 or are you using it to be served? Right? It's 00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:54.140 rough. Yeah. And what are the lowest tasks? Because 00:24:54.140 --> 00:24:58.279 that's a conversation thing. It has to be tasks 00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:01.660 that nobody wants, right? Well, and why are you 00:25:01.660 --> 00:25:06.779 doing them, right? Yeah. Right. And part of servant 00:25:06.779 --> 00:25:09.339 leadership is building other people into areas 00:25:09.339 --> 00:25:12.700 of leadership, right? So like our church, our 00:25:12.700 --> 00:25:15.079 church does this pretty well where a lot of churches 00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:16.920 will be like you have the one pastor who preaches 00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:20.559 40. eight Sundays out of the year. And then the 00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:23.140 youth pastor, the other four. And then every 00:25:23.140 --> 00:25:24.500 time the youth pastor gets up there, the senior 00:25:24.500 --> 00:25:25.960 pastor's like, we're going to wait another quarter 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:27.980 before you come back. We're like, alright, we've 00:25:27.980 --> 00:25:31.019 got to debrief that one a little bit. But like 00:25:31.019 --> 00:25:33.880 our church, we have a whole preaching team. And 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:39.650 that's because the pastor before... and the pastor 00:25:39.650 --> 00:25:42.150 now are big into, okay, we're going to build 00:25:42.150 --> 00:25:45.569 people up to lead, to preach, to proclaim the 00:25:45.569 --> 00:25:48.650 gospel, right? Like we're doing this as a community. 00:25:48.849 --> 00:25:51.250 And I think that's a great example of servant 00:25:51.250 --> 00:25:53.430 leadership, right? Yeah. Of like, how can we 00:25:53.430 --> 00:25:56.029 build people up into a place that often other 00:25:56.029 --> 00:25:59.549 people see as high and esteemed and take ourselves 00:25:59.549 --> 00:26:03.369 slowly out of those places, right? Yeah. Yeah. 00:26:04.109 --> 00:26:06.970 A couple of things I said it isn't, not letting 00:26:06.970 --> 00:26:09.180 people abuse you. Yeah. Right. Because I think 00:26:09.180 --> 00:26:10.559 sometimes people take this too far and they're 00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:12.900 like, I'll just take the abuse. No, you need 00:26:12.900 --> 00:26:14.700 to have clear boundaries. Right. People don't 00:26:14.700 --> 00:26:17.720 need to treat you like garbage. Pastor, I clogged 00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:19.619 my toilet. Can you come over and plunge it for 00:26:19.619 --> 00:26:23.160 me? Right. Exactly. Like I said, it's not having 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:25.660 no boundaries and it's not enabling people to 00:26:25.660 --> 00:26:29.380 sin or be dysfunctional. Yeah. Right. When you're 00:26:29.380 --> 00:26:32.039 serving people, we meet people where they're 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:35.269 sinful. We don't leave them there. Yeah. Most 00:26:35.269 --> 00:26:36.609 specifically, Jesus doesn't leave them there. 00:26:37.150 --> 00:26:39.730 We're going to meet people where they're at and 00:26:39.730 --> 00:26:42.630 allow Christ to work through them, but we're 00:26:42.630 --> 00:26:45.890 not going to enable them where they're at. It's 00:26:45.890 --> 00:26:47.589 not about pretending you're powerless. It's about 00:26:47.589 --> 00:26:49.970 asking, whatever power or influence I have, how 00:26:49.970 --> 00:26:55.369 can it look like Jesus with a towel? I had a 00:26:55.369 --> 00:26:57.269 couple of notes here, which we've talked about 00:26:57.269 --> 00:26:59.970 a couple of them. I call them a few Easter eggs. 00:27:00.069 --> 00:27:01.930 I don't know why I put that in there. Apparently 00:27:01.930 --> 00:27:04.130 I was just feeling it. I might have been playing 00:27:04.130 --> 00:27:10.329 video games at the time. So the phrase in John 00:27:10.329 --> 00:27:12.809 13, it says, having loved his own, he loved them 00:27:12.809 --> 00:27:17.890 to the end. Right? That's including the fact 00:27:17.890 --> 00:27:20.690 that Judas is going to betray him. Peter's going 00:27:20.690 --> 00:27:23.349 to deny him. Everybody else is going to run away. 00:27:23.490 --> 00:27:26.500 Yeah. Right. He still sits down and shares a 00:27:26.500 --> 00:27:28.380 meal, washes their feet and calls them his friends. 00:27:28.900 --> 00:27:34.839 Right. Yeah. In the middle of this, he like he 00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:37.380 just gives them this new command, this new covenant. 00:27:38.539 --> 00:27:40.519 This is the cup of the new covenant in my blood. 00:27:40.539 --> 00:27:43.180 And John, he's going to say, love one another 00:27:43.180 --> 00:27:48.119 as I have loved you. Yeah. If you do this, everybody's 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:49.559 going to know that you're following me. Yeah. 00:27:50.529 --> 00:27:52.849 They're going to know who you belong to by the 00:27:52.849 --> 00:27:55.710 way that you're able to get along. And you can 00:27:55.710 --> 00:27:57.789 imagine them sitting here and John's thinking, 00:27:57.890 --> 00:28:02.869 man, but Judas is a zealot, right? He's just 00:28:02.869 --> 00:28:08.170 all about take down the man. And Peter, he's 00:28:08.170 --> 00:28:12.450 impertinent and he's old. And as like, not to 00:28:12.450 --> 00:28:14.589 mention like James and John, like those guys 00:28:14.589 --> 00:28:17.609 are just fishermen. They're all having those 00:28:17.609 --> 00:28:21.309 conversations about each other. Like so -and 00:28:21.309 --> 00:28:24.309 -so has that Essene theology. That person is 00:28:24.309 --> 00:28:26.829 basically not a Jew. Matthew, he's a tax collector. 00:28:27.509 --> 00:28:29.589 What does that guy know about the kingdom of 00:28:29.589 --> 00:28:32.390 God? You're telling me that out of everything 00:28:32.390 --> 00:28:34.750 that we could do, we're going to be known that 00:28:34.750 --> 00:28:38.680 we follow you because... The weirdest group of 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:40.859 people that could talk together are getting along. 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:43.720 People who can't get along about anything are 00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:48.579 now suddenly finding a way to get along. It's 00:28:48.579 --> 00:28:51.119 almost like in America, if you had a church where 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:54.440 Democrats and Republicans loved each other deeply, 00:28:54.619 --> 00:28:57.059 you'd be like, what the heck is going on here? 00:28:58.940 --> 00:29:01.680 Libertarians. Right. I'm trying to think of other 00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:03.200 political parties. Those are the only two I can 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:05.180 think of. Green Party. Green Party. Yeah, there 00:29:05.180 --> 00:29:07.019 we go. I'm sure there's others. So if you're 00:29:07.019 --> 00:29:08.779 part of one of those parties, I apologize. I 00:29:08.779 --> 00:29:11.619 can only think of the main ones, you know, where 00:29:11.619 --> 00:29:15.880 people who are pro this and anti this find ways 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:17.299 to come together and fellowship and love each 00:29:17.299 --> 00:29:19.259 other, even though they disagree. Yeah. When 00:29:19.259 --> 00:29:24.069 people who, you know, like. pick the topic. Pick 00:29:24.069 --> 00:29:26.170 the thing that people argue and fight and are 00:29:26.170 --> 00:29:29.349 certain about. Where rich people and poor people 00:29:29.349 --> 00:29:30.869 get together and love each other in the name 00:29:30.869 --> 00:29:33.250 of Jesus. Where slave and free get together and 00:29:33.250 --> 00:29:34.970 love each other in the name of Jesus. Where men 00:29:34.970 --> 00:29:36.829 and women get together and love each other in 00:29:36.829 --> 00:29:39.250 the name of Jesus. Where Jew and Gentile come 00:29:39.250 --> 00:29:41.170 together and love each other in the name of Jesus. 00:29:41.309 --> 00:29:43.049 It's almost like Paul's saying there's neither 00:29:43.049 --> 00:29:47.349 Jew nor Gentile, slave nor free, Greek nor Hebrew, 00:29:47.450 --> 00:29:51.230 right? He's going through and it's like, When 00:29:51.230 --> 00:29:53.710 you love each other, despite your differences, 00:29:53.769 --> 00:29:55.950 you put a different kind of story on display 00:29:55.950 --> 00:29:59.109 and people go, wow, that's really cool. Yeah. 00:29:59.309 --> 00:30:02.109 I want that. When you set the little things aside 00:30:02.109 --> 00:30:05.309 and say yes to the big things, right? I had this 00:30:05.309 --> 00:30:07.250 conversation with a friend when we were down 00:30:07.250 --> 00:30:11.130 in Washington and he likes to talk politics. 00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:13.579 He started bringing some stuff up, and I was 00:30:13.579 --> 00:30:16.740 like, hey, man, I love talking this stuff, right? 00:30:16.859 --> 00:30:18.440 If you want to talk about this, I'd love to talk 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:21.480 about this. While we're talking about it, can 00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:23.380 we just make sure we keep Jesus in the forefront? 00:30:23.900 --> 00:30:25.400 And no, we're probably going to have some things 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.240 we disagree on, and that's okay. And when we 00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:30.099 do disagree, can we just bring it back around 00:30:30.099 --> 00:30:33.660 to Jesus and what Jesus is doing in our lives, 00:30:33.700 --> 00:30:37.059 in our community, in our churches? And he was 00:30:37.059 --> 00:30:39.160 like, oh, yeah, and we had an awesome conversation, 00:30:39.420 --> 00:30:42.750 right? And I think the problem is that sometimes 00:30:42.750 --> 00:30:45.130 we think we have to find a way to agree on everything, 00:30:45.230 --> 00:30:48.630 and that's not true. No. Like, you and I will 00:30:48.630 --> 00:30:52.069 never agree on some things, right? But I love 00:30:52.069 --> 00:30:54.349 you more than the things we disagree about. Right? 00:30:54.490 --> 00:30:57.809 Right? Yeah. Like, and so the fact that we disagree 00:30:57.809 --> 00:31:00.859 just isn't a problem. Mm -hmm. Like... We avoid 00:31:00.859 --> 00:31:02.859 talking about it. We avoid doing this. Whatever 00:31:02.859 --> 00:31:06.039 it is, right? But, I mean, it's the same thing 00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:07.859 like, well, coming back to marriage because it's 00:31:07.859 --> 00:31:11.680 a great example. Like your wife or spouse will 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:15.859 do things that frustrate you. You love them more 00:31:15.859 --> 00:31:18.240 than the things that frustrate you. So, yes, 00:31:18.299 --> 00:31:20.200 you can work together and some things like, you 00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:22.180 know, through relationship get settled. Like 00:31:22.180 --> 00:31:25.720 men remember to put their clothes into the laundry 00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.700 hamper. Not a specific example from somebody. 00:31:29.130 --> 00:31:33.089 But definitely, definitely my example. I'm just 00:31:33.089 --> 00:31:35.809 saying my clothes magically move from the floor 00:31:35.809 --> 00:31:37.789 to the laundry room. I don't know how it happens. 00:31:37.789 --> 00:31:40.750 You have the magic table? Yeah. It just happens. 00:31:40.829 --> 00:31:43.230 And then they come out of the laundry room clean 00:31:43.230 --> 00:31:46.309 somehow. It's awesome. I come home. I open the 00:31:46.309 --> 00:31:48.269 oven. There's a food already cooked in there. 00:31:48.309 --> 00:31:50.730 Nobody prepared it. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Like my 00:31:50.730 --> 00:31:54.210 house is amazing, right? Joking, Lindsay, you're 00:31:54.210 --> 00:31:56.609 awesome. She doesn't listen to this, so you'll 00:31:56.609 --> 00:31:58.490 have to tell her that specifically. You need 00:31:58.490 --> 00:32:00.509 to go tell her because somebody who listens will 00:32:00.509 --> 00:32:06.109 tell her what you said. But in these relationships, 00:32:06.329 --> 00:32:08.809 we all have things that we don't let frustrate 00:32:08.809 --> 00:32:10.049 us about. And some of those are worked out in 00:32:10.049 --> 00:32:11.869 relationship because we have conversations and 00:32:11.869 --> 00:32:14.509 say, hey, you do this, but I prefer if you do 00:32:14.509 --> 00:32:16.130 that. And then we have that conversation and 00:32:16.130 --> 00:32:17.509 we're like, oh, well, that's super easy to fix. 00:32:17.589 --> 00:32:19.900 I just do that. Right? Because that's relationship. 00:32:20.220 --> 00:32:22.599 Yeah. Other things, we just disagree about the 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.299 way those things should be. Mm -hmm. And we love 00:32:25.299 --> 00:32:26.859 each other more than the disagreement. Mm -hmm. 00:32:26.940 --> 00:32:29.480 The problem tends to come from the fact that 00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.279 we struggle loving each other more than the disagreement. 00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:37.859 Yeah. There is around the, I'm trying to remember 00:32:37.859 --> 00:32:39.839 when it really became popular. Let's say 2000s. 00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:44.720 Yeah. Reality TV. Yeah. The drama. Mm -hmm. Right? 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.380 Like. What are people going to do? What is the 00:32:48.380 --> 00:32:50.720 drama? What's the tea? Spill the tea, right? 00:32:51.500 --> 00:32:53.059 That's one of the things that people still talk 00:32:53.059 --> 00:32:55.200 about. They build it up with the dramatic music 00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:58.480 and then the big gasps and everything and then 00:32:58.480 --> 00:32:59.920 goes to commercial break. Then it comes back 00:32:59.920 --> 00:33:04.019 and you're like, that's it. People are hungry 00:33:04.019 --> 00:33:06.440 for drama. They're hungry for intrigue. They're 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:09.980 hungry for conflict. It's interesting that we're 00:33:09.980 --> 00:33:13.240 hungry for this. We are hungry for these things. 00:33:14.259 --> 00:33:16.299 But at the same time, they're not anything that 00:33:16.299 --> 00:33:18.480 actually satisfies us. The more drama you feed 00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:21.460 into, the more you're hungry for drama. And so 00:33:21.460 --> 00:33:24.259 now, like, even when we watch the news, news 00:33:24.259 --> 00:33:28.700 is dramatized. And campaigns are dramatized. 00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:31.859 And, you know, things that in life shouldn't 00:33:31.859 --> 00:33:34.039 be dramatized are finding drama. And, like, the 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:35.819 reality is you actually need to come to a place 00:33:35.819 --> 00:33:38.519 of settled. Yeah. Example of this, look at the 00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:43.319 soap opera nature of politics now. Right? Like, 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.599 you know. republicans will say one thing and 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.619 then democrats will be like how dare you you're 00:33:49.619 --> 00:33:52.200 of the devil right and then republicans will 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.500 snap back and be like how stupid can you be and 00:33:55.500 --> 00:33:57.799 you know go back and forth and it's like it's 00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:02.089 like okay i was like early 2000 soap drama That's 00:34:02.089 --> 00:34:05.069 what it feels like we're watching sometimes. 00:34:06.569 --> 00:34:09.349 It's problematic because when you're sitting 00:34:09.349 --> 00:34:11.449 here desiring drama, you're not actually thinking 00:34:11.449 --> 00:34:14.550 about the other person. Here at the Last Supper, 00:34:14.670 --> 00:34:16.969 Jesus could have put some drama in there. He 00:34:16.969 --> 00:34:19.250 also could have been like when Judas said, is 00:34:19.250 --> 00:34:22.190 it me? He could have been like, oh buddy, it 00:34:22.190 --> 00:34:27.130 is you. But instead he says, you said it. In 00:34:27.130 --> 00:34:29.269 other words, I know exactly what's going to happen 00:34:29.269 --> 00:34:32.559 and you're still welcome here. I know exactly 00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:34.400 what you're going to do. Peter, I know exactly 00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.159 what you're going to say about me. And I also 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.599 know how bad you're going to feel about it. Judas, 00:34:40.300 --> 00:34:42.880 I know exactly what you're going to do. And I 00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:44.420 also know what you're going to do after you find 00:34:44.420 --> 00:34:46.840 out what that costs. And I really wish you wouldn't. 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:54.019 Right? Jesus was like, I know you're going to 00:34:54.019 --> 00:34:57.300 betray. I know you're going to wrong me. but 00:34:57.300 --> 00:34:59.219 I love you more than the wrong, and you're still 00:34:59.219 --> 00:35:01.860 welcome at my table. Sounds like it's a message 00:35:01.860 --> 00:35:06.940 that's meant for us as well, right? Yeah. And 00:35:06.940 --> 00:35:09.940 I want to strongly make sure this is clear. We're 00:35:09.940 --> 00:35:13.519 not saying condone sin. We're not saying compromise 00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.079 your principles. We're not saying you have to 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.280 agree with somebody else. We're saying do you 00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:21.139 love them more than you love being right? That 00:35:21.139 --> 00:35:23.780 and as you continue to follow Jesus, he's going 00:35:23.780 --> 00:35:27.300 to challenge you in ways that are going to cause 00:35:27.300 --> 00:35:29.880 you to maybe feel like you're falling away. Yeah. 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:33.659 Right? Like the things that the Lord asks of 00:35:33.659 --> 00:35:37.219 us, they're not simple a lot of times. You'd 00:35:37.219 --> 00:35:38.500 be like, oh, just give this up. And it's like, 00:35:38.539 --> 00:35:42.940 that could be a big task. Yeah. Right? The alcoholic 00:35:42.940 --> 00:35:45.300 who starts following Jesus. Oh, just give up 00:35:45.300 --> 00:35:49.139 booze. Yeah. you might be miraculously healed 00:35:49.139 --> 00:35:51.519 and you might have to walk it out every day of 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:56.440 the rest of your life. Yeah. Right. And so what 00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:58.380 we can do is we can often say like, well, this 00:35:58.380 --> 00:36:01.079 is how the story should play out. But Jesus didn't 00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:03.099 do that at the last supper. Well, he did say 00:36:03.099 --> 00:36:04.940 this is how the story is going to play out. Right. 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.840 And he said, but I know you're all going to hurt 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:12.579 me, but I'm still here. Yeah. You're still here. 00:36:12.659 --> 00:36:16.059 Let's enjoy this meal. Yeah. The crazy thing 00:36:16.059 --> 00:36:18.340 is that Jesus is already looking to what they 00:36:18.340 --> 00:36:21.440 will do, and he's already forgiven them. And 00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.340 one of the things, and we're going to talk about 00:36:23.340 --> 00:36:25.659 this, is probably towards the end of this season, 00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:27.519 because we've got about another 15 episodes to 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:31.800 go. But when Jesus comes to Peter and he reinstates 00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:34.900 him, he's really helping Peter figure out that 00:36:34.900 --> 00:36:37.920 Jesus is already welcoming him back. He's helping 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.300 Peter figure out what Jesus has already offered 00:36:40.300 --> 00:36:42.699 in this moment. He's like, I know what you're 00:36:42.699 --> 00:36:44.920 going to do. I know exactly what you're going 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.039 to do, and you're still going to be welcome back. 00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:53.000 If we can love each other in a similar way, even 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:55.860 in a fraction of a similar way, I think what 00:36:55.860 --> 00:36:58.360 you'll find is that you cannot keep people out 00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:01.300 of your church. You cannot keep people out of 00:37:01.300 --> 00:37:03.960 your relationship with God because they're going 00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:05.340 to flock to that because they're going to be 00:37:05.340 --> 00:37:10.079 like, man, this is something else. What do you 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:11.800 mean the drama doesn't matter? You love me anyways. 00:37:12.619 --> 00:37:14.800 Don't you know what I did to you? Yeah? Mm -hmm. 00:37:14.940 --> 00:37:16.840 Know exactly what you did. Yep. You're still 00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:20.420 welcome here. Yep. If you want to be here, come 00:37:20.420 --> 00:37:24.719 on in. Mm -hmm. It's a good story. It is. Yeah. 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:27.300 It's a good point. It's good life. It's good. 00:37:28.340 --> 00:37:30.960 I think I come back to the Lord's Supper. There's 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:32.559 a good reason that we come back to the Lord's 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:33.780 Supper because there's a lot going on there. 00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:35.920 Yeah, there is. And we didn't even get into the 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.420 fact that Jesus prays for his disciples. He prays 00:37:38.420 --> 00:37:40.079 for the disciples yet to come. He prays for the 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:43.460 whole world. Uh -huh. Right? There's so much 00:37:43.460 --> 00:37:45.619 going on in there. Yeah, there's, is it four 00:37:45.619 --> 00:37:47.800 chapters in John? Yeah. Or three chapters in 00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:49.739 John after the Lord's Supper, where it's just 00:37:49.739 --> 00:37:54.400 Jesus praying. Yeah. And conversing. And, you 00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:55.760 know, they're going out, they're singing their 00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:57.579 songs, and he's out at the Mount of Olives, and 00:37:57.579 --> 00:37:59.500 he's giving them these things like, I am the 00:37:59.500 --> 00:38:01.579 vine, you are the branches. If you remain in 00:38:01.579 --> 00:38:03.039 me and I remain in you, you're going to bear 00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:06.679 much fruit. If you don't remain in me, you're 00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.980 going to get lifted up. Just come near me. Like, 00:38:10.019 --> 00:38:11.920 if you try to get here, and you don't think you 00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:14.440 can get here, my father will do the heavy lifting. 00:38:14.820 --> 00:38:17.739 Yeah. The only problem is if you ever just try 00:38:17.739 --> 00:38:20.260 to get away, if you disconnect. So good. If you 00:38:20.260 --> 00:38:23.820 come here, I got you. Yeah. All right, we're 00:38:23.820 --> 00:38:26.420 going to stop there today, and we're going to 00:38:26.420 --> 00:38:28.679 continue next week. Well, we'll see if it's next 00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:31.300 week. Our busy schedules are what they are. It'll 00:38:31.300 --> 00:38:34.239 probably be next week, but we'll see. This week, 00:38:34.300 --> 00:38:37.860 go love people well. Figure out a way to servant 00:38:37.860 --> 00:38:40.639 leader. Have good boundaries, but love people 00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.940 well. Value them more than the things that you 00:38:42.940 --> 00:38:48.670 think you're right about. Until next time. And 00:38:48.670 --> 00:38:50.710 that's a wrap for today's episode of Love and 00:38:50.710 --> 00:38:52.989 Context. 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