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Welcome to Season 3 of Love & Context. This season,

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we're exploring the life of Jesus step -by -step

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and uncovering what His story teaches us about

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loving God and others. Here on Love & Context,

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we're all about having real conversations about

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how to live out that love in practical, everyday

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ways, and understanding the Bible in its full

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context. We're so glad you're here. Let's dive

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into Season 3 of Love & Context. Welcome back

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to the Love in Context podcast. Where we podcast

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on a podcast. Yeah. If you're listening today

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and you listened a week or so ago, you're probably

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noticing that our voices don't sound like...

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Yeah, we had audio issues, and I was like, oh,

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maybe Spencer and I can recapture the magic.

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We can't. No. We can't recapture the magic, and

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I wanted to make sure that that was a good dialogue

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that I wanted to make sure got on there. Yeah.

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So we're going to just pretend like it was great

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audio, and for those of you that listened, thank

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you. For those of you that didn't, this is what

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we talked about last week. And before you guys

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start typing comments, like, well, you should

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really do this with your audio, it's fine. Don't

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worry. Yeah. You'll get over it. Yeah. You'll

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be okay. Some of you know who this is, and some

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of you don't. Just Abilene Kyle Quinn. Yeah.

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Just letting you know. Just letting you know

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Abilene Kyle Quinn. 100%. So last couple of weeks,

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we're obviously in the Life of Jesus Season 3

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podcast. Podcast. Oh, yeah. P -p -p -podcast.

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I think I was supposed to do that at the beginning,

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but I won't. Last couple of weeks, just kind

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of catching up. Jesus has come into the temple.

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He's cleansed the temple. And then there's been

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this couple of parables that he's been telling.

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He's been asked a lot of questions from the religious

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leaders. So initially he comes in and he says,

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hey, this temple is actually supposed to be for

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everybody. It's supposed to be specifically for

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the court of the Gentiles. So everybody who is

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not part of the kingdom of Israel can come and

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hear about Yahweh. And you're making it a place

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where you're selling a bunch of stuff and trying

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to make a bunch of money. It's corrupted. Boo.

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Boo, right? And so then they come at him and

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they start asking him questions. And so he starts

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telling him parables. He tells him the parable

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of the vineyard where there's this vineyard and

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God's the landowner and the servants are supposed

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to be taking care of it. So the servants are

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these prophets and eventually the son comes to

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these vineyard people and says, hey, you're supposed

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to give me what to do. And they kill everyone

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because that doesn't work out well. And then

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he has this conversation in the temple. They

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said, well, are we supposed to give taxes to

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God or to Caesar? And he says, well, that depends.

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Whose picture is on the money? Whose image is

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on the coin? Let's pull out a coin we're not

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supposed to have. Yeah, let's pull out a coin

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we're not supposed to have. And ultimately, Jesus

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kind of gives them this point. It's like, give

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to Caesar the coin, but don't you dare give Caesar

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what's God's, which is you. right? Your life,

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your devotion, your worship. And then the Sadducees,

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they have this ridiculous question about the

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resurrection. He answers them, puts them in their

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place. You don't know the scriptures or the power

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of God, one of my favorite quotes from Jesus.

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Then he has a conversation with another religious

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leader about which is the greatest command, and

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he answers a rabbinic debate that's going on

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at the time. He says, love God with all your

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heart, soul, mind, and strength. Love your neighbor

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as yourself. All law and prophets are going to

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hang on these two commands. Tell you what, guys,

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now that you don't have questions, I got questions

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for you. That's what I read in there, right?

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And he asked them about this question about who

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is the Messiah? And they say, well, you know,

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he's supposed to be the son of David. Okay, well,

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David calls him Lord, so how would a father call

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a son Lord unless he's something more than just

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a son of David, right? What if he's something

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more than what you're anticipating? What if the

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Messiah is so much more than you think? Which

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then brings him into this conversation. So he's

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been confronting the religious leadership. This

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is part three of Jesus confronting religious

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leadership. I will tell you the same thing that

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I told you the last couple of weeks. If you have

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grown up in church, he's probably talking to

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us. And it's better for us to hear that and fix

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our dumb stuff quickly than to assume that he's

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not talking to us, right? By the way, that's

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me. That's Spencer. We grew up in church. He's

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talking to us. So we pick up in chapter 23, and

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he's going to be talking about hypocrisy. So

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let's jump in here and read this text. Okay,

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so where are they? Still in the temple. Religious

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leaders are not... directly questioning him now,

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and Jesus starts to talk to the crowds and his

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disciples, but it's more than likely these guys

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are still within earshot, right? And the big

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idea is Jesus is then addressing the leadership,

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and he's not using a parable. He's directly telling

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them, hey, make sure to do what they tell you

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to do, but don't do what they do, because what

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they say and what they do are not the same thing.

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Boy, if that had to do with modern church. Well,

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yeah, and then to also have Jesus say, hey, what

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they're saying is more important than their actions.

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Correct. Right? Like, as a religious leader,

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like, if you are saying one thing, your actions

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better line up with that. Exactly. Right? But

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you, listener, they are saying the right thing.

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What they're saying is not inaccurate. You should

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do what they say. Just don't watch them and then

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do what they do. Yeah. So there's this thing

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that talks about Moses' seat. For people that

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are unfamiliar, if you go back to our Torah series,

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we talk about this. There is the Bema seat, which

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is the center platform for where they teach.

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The Moses seat is where you sit from and you

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read Torah. And it's a place of religious authority.

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And so basically when he says that they sit in

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Moses' seat, he's saying that they carry the

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teaching authority of the scriptures to the community.

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Yeah. And that's appropriate. Jesus says they

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do have devotion to the text, and there is a

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basic sound as to what they're saying. But don't

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do what they do. Hear the text. But don't do

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what they do. Don't imitate their way of living

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it out. Because they do things like they load

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up people with guilt and expectations, right?

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And they won't lift a finger to help people.

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And they turn their obedience into a show, which

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is actually a word that's going to come across.

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And we've talked about this in the past, but

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it's hypocrisy, upokritas, right? It's play acting,

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right? It's much broader than just say one thing

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and do another. It's you're putting on a show.

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And he says they're not even going to lift a

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finger to help them. And continuing on in verse

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5, he says, everything they do is done for people

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to see. They're play acting, right? They make

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their phylacteries wide and their tassels on

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their garments long. Are you supposed to have

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phylacteries? Are you supposed to have tassels?

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Yes, of course. Are they supposed to be wide

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and long? No, that's for show. They love the

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place of honor at banquets and the most important

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seats in the synagogues. They love to be greeted

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with respect in the marketplace and to be called

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Rabbi by others. Okay. Look at me, look at me.

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Look at me, look at me. Okay, one more part here.

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But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have

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one teacher, and you are all brothers. Do not

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call anyone on earth father, for you have one

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father, and he is in heaven. Nor are you to be

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called instructors, for you have one instructor,

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the Messiah. The greatest among you will be your

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servant, for those who exist themselves will

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be humbled. Sorry, those who exalt themselves.

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I can read. Exalt themselves will be humbled,

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and those who humble themselves will be exalted.

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look at me, look at me. Stop it. Stop looking

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at me. Don't look at me. That's probably not

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how this works, right? So what is he not doing

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here? So Jesus is not giving a rule about you

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can't call your dad father, right? That's not

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what he's talking about, right? He's not saying

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that you can't have a teacher or a pastor. What

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he's saying is you ultimately recognize that

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these are all delegated authorities that come

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from Messiah or God. Yeah. These are all deli,

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and they're all servants that are serving. I

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think about how Paul talks about it in Ephesians,

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where he says that they equip the body for service.

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Titles can be a problem with power and ego. They

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can take away from your role of service. And

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so if you're seeking a title because you want

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power, you want authority, you want people to

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go, hey, pastor, right? If that's the reason

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that you're in this job, man, that's a problem.

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Yeah. It's problematic. Yeah. We are all, when

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we follow Jesus, we're all on an equal playing

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field. Doesn't matter how long you follow Jesus

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or if you just started five minutes ago, right?

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We're all on an equal playing field. That basis

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is found throughout Scripture. Jesus talks about

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it here. Paul talks about it in Ephesians, Galatians,

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so on and so forth. All the way back to Genesis,

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where man and woman were created as equal helpers

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for each other. I like, there's a story you've

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told a bunch of times on here about the pastor

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when you were getting involved in ministry. It

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wasn't about what am I in charge of, but how

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do you serve? Right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you

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got lots of stories like that, but it's like,

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it's like, how do you, how do you serve? Right.

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Right. And really, if you're in a leadership

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role, really nothing should be beneath you. I

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was at a, at a conference and it's similar to

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your story about asking you to clean toilets.

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But I remember this guy, he was, he. God had

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given like a word over him. He was going to go

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and evangelize like internationally and stuff

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like that. And he's like, okay, great. So he

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goes and he's like, but you have to go and serve

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under this pastor for a while. So he goes to

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the pastor. He's like, yeah, God's given me this

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word of things I'm supposed to do. And he's like,

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cool. It's time for you to clean toilets. And

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he's like, he's like, at first I was like, he's

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like, but then I took the toilet and I was like,

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I was like, I love Jesus. I'm cleaning the toilets.

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You know, he's all going for it. And he's like,

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he's like, and you know what I found out is that

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I loved serving. I loved serving and God was

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preparing me to be the kind of person internationally

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that would be able to serve. Well, and the beautiful

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thing about serving is when you really step into

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this of like, okay, I'm going to be the least

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of these. I'm going to do it in a way where,

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you know, I'm not doing it for the attention,

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right? It allows you to actually just open your

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eyes and be like, okay, who needs help? Right?

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Yeah. Right? Because when you're doing it for

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attention, you're like, who needs help and who

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can see me? right and when you take that who

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can see me push it aside you remove the distraction

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you're like okay that person's over there by

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themselves hungry broken hurting they need help

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let me go to them right and um and versus when

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you do it in front of a big public affair people

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will be like oh man that person can be so great

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and that uh that uh pride can sneak in so easily

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right and and so the beautiful thing is just

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being like hey you know what if i'm gonna Do

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it for, because I'm playing for God, right? I'm

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not playing for man, as Paul says. Playing for

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God, I'm not playing for man. So I'm going to

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do it in a way to where it's not about other

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people's responses. It's about who God has put

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in my path and who I'm supposed to be humbly

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serving. We have an episode where we talked about

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hypocrites, and we talked about this, this upacritas,

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this theater word meaning play acting. And so

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in English, typically, so I recommend going to

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that episode if you want to deep dive into it.

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But we typically talk about it, one person who

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does one thing or says one thing and does the

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opposite. But Jesus is actually commenting that

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you can actually do what you say. and still be

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a hypocrite if you're performing for the applause

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of people, for status or for control. Everything

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they do is for people to see. Now, I've been

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in ministry a long time. You can't do everything

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out of the sight of people because it's just

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impossible. People are going to see you. If you

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fast and you teach people how to fast, you at

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least have to talk to your students. If you're

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going to pray and teach people how to pray, you

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have to do it in front of them. everything they

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do is to be seen by other people, that's problematic.

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Even doing the right thing, you can still go

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about it for the wrong reasons. You're like,

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what was it, how you said? Look at me! Right?

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The Pharisees, that's from, the look at me is

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from something. I can't remember. Somebody figure

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it out what it is and email us because I forget.

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But the Pharisees likely saw themselves as completely

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consistent because they did what they taught.

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But they, at the same time, were missing the

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heart of what the Scripture was trying to do

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because they had just had this conversation.

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It's about love God and love of your neighbor.

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And so everything that you're doing in pursuit

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of Torah should be about loving God and that

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love then extending to your neighbor. And we

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know, I mean, chances are either you... or somebody

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you know is like this, right? This has been me

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at times, where I know my doctrine, I love Bible

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studies, and I can keep all the rules, but it's

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about being smartest, and it's about being the

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holiest, or I'm better at this than somebody

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else. I can be in pursuit of the right thing

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the totally wrong way. I can say, man, my doctrinal

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ducks are in a row. This guy, though? Let me

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tell you, right? Or, I mean, coming from like

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a worship perspective, when you're worshiping

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God and you're having a really good time and

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you're like, man, I made this happen. You're

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like... And as you're saying that, God's standing

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behind you with a two by four about ready to

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hit you on the back of the head. Yeah, that plank

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that you have in your own eye, it may have gotten

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stuck there by God. Right? And this is why, I

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mean, I think this is the invitation why I think

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we need to recognize ourselves as the Pharisees,

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as the leadership, because this is where we grew

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up. A lot of us grew up in church, and sometimes

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people coming in from the outside, man, they're

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not going to have their doctrinal things in a

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row. They're just going to be pursuing Jesus

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and figuring it out as they go. Our job is to

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love them, yes, to help correct them, but in

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a way that's actually helpful and brings life,

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not to bring shame, not to tie up cumbersome

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burdens and put them on their shoulders. Yeah.

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Right? Like that's problematic. Jesus' critique

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isn't those bad people out there. It's religious

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leaders, check your heart. Check your heart.

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What's going on? And then he's going to go and

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he's going to give seven woes. But before we

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actually get into the woes, I'm going to kind

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of just give an overview of what the woes are.

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Remember that these woes and these critiques

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are coming after a long series of conversations.

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Jesus doesn't come in and just start declaring

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woe. He's already talked to the religious leaders

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and had this conversation. Now he's talking to

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his disciples and saying, this is why you need

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to watch out. And I stress that because I think

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that there is a tendency in Christendom when

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we think that we are the smartest, are the most

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holy. We're like, I'm going to bring the woes

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and people will repent in weeping and sackcloth,

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right? Will they? And they're animals too, just

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quote from Jonah, right? Lead with grace and

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truth. Lead with healing. Lead with love God,

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love other people. And in the conversation, if

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there's a point where you need to bring correction,

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make sure there's connection. Right? Yeah. All

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right. So seven woes that are going on here.

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So I'm going to kind of give you just a high

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level. In verse 13, he says that they're shutting

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the door of the kingdom. In verse 15, they're

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making converts into children of hell. That they

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are blind guides and they make vows about temple

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and gold, altering the gift. That they are tithing

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tiny spices, they're neglecting the weightier

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matters. That they're cleaning the outside of

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the cup, but the inside is full of greed. That

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they're whitewashed tombs, and they're building

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tombs for the prophets and continuing in their

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murder. So, you know, just chill stuff, right?

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Not a whole lot going on there. But he's going

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to lead off each of these with a woe. It says,

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Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisee,

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you hypocrites. Now, it doesn't say that for

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everyone, but a lot of them it does. The big

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picture of these woes is it's not primarily about

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obvious sin. It's about self -righteousness,

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image -obsessed, power -protecting religious

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people. Right. It's about when you place religion

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over faith. Yeah. Right. People are so sure that

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they are for God that they actually fight against

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what God is doing. So let's take the first one

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here. Can you read verse 13? Yeah, I can. What

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sorrow awaits you teachers of the religious law

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and you Pharisees, hypocrites, for you shut the

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door to the kingdom of heaven in people's faces.

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You won't go in yourself and you don't let others

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in either. That's a rough one, right? Yep. So

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Jesus is talking about leadership that makes

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it harder for people who are sincerely seeking

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God. They guard access to God like a bouncer,

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not a priest, right? A modern example might be

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churches that gatekeep culture, that gatekeep

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politics, dress code, background. Even theology.

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Even theology, right? That you can't be here

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unless. Yeah. One of the things we talked about

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in our church, we have a person who comes to

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our church who I love, awesome person. We disagree

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on a theological item. Totally fine. We were

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having this conversation because of Assembly

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of God, and I said, well, this is where AG stands,

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and this is what I think. And I was like, also,

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you don't have to agree with us, and you can

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be here. I was like, you just need to know that

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we're not changing who we are, but you're more

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than welcome to be here and just disagree with

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us. And they stopped, and they're like, oh, well,

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that's cool. Well, we'll also do things where

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we will add extra layers to stuff. Oh, yeah.

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Right? There will be simple theological principles.

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We're going to get an email on this one. There

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will be simple theological principles like baptism.

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Yeah. Right? You believe in Jesus, go get baptized,

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public declaration. And you will have churches

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be like, we know you need to take a six -week

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class on what baptism is. Yeah. It's like, dude,

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I can explain that to you in 30 seconds. Also,

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it's a seven -week class, not a six -week class.

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No, no, I hear you. And a six -week class on

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baptism is not a bad thing. No. Right? It's not.

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Is there a problem with having a six -week class

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on baptism and all the different prophetic symbols

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and what's actually going on in the waters? No,

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that's fun. That's good. Well, some people think

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that's fun. Some people are like, I don't know

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if I want to talk about water that much. But

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there's also so many instances in Scripture.

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Yeah. I'm just thinking of what the Ethiopian

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eunuch, right? Philip tells him about Jesus,

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he believes, and then Philip's like, where's

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the nearest puddle? Yeah. Right? Yep. Like, it

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is a public decoration. Decoration. It's a public

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decoration. It's you declaring publicly that

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you are following Jesus. Right. Right. That's

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what it is. Yeah. And because it's modeled after

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mikvah for Jewish people is that it was like

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a repentance. Like I was one way and now I'm

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going another way. Yeah. Right. And like when

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we make it a, well, no, you have to understand

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all the intricacies of it. Dude, if we had to

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understand all the intricacies to follow Jesus,

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none of us would be following Jesus. Exactly.

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And so. I'm using this as an example. I don't

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say that if you're a church that's listening

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and you offer a baptism class, great. I don't

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have anything against that. We don't actually

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have a problem with that. What I am saying is

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that sometimes we will gatekeep theology to the

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point where we're like, okay, we want to over

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-explain this to a point where it's like, okay,

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you actually just missed the heart of what it's

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about. Do we actually make it harder for people

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to follow Jesus than he does? yeah the answer

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is yes we absolutely do and we're getting better

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at it yes right um but like this this is the

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woe is that you're you're gatekeeping you're

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trying to make approach to the kingdom of god

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harder than it should be you're not even going

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in yourself and you're keeping other people from

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going stop it stop it yeah you know and um uh,

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let's see here. The second one is one of, uh,

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this is this, by the way, it was one of my favorites

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only because like, it's hit me so hard in my

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youth. Right. Woe to you, teachers and law and

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Pharisees, you hypocrites, you travel over land

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and sea to win a single convert. And when you

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have succeeded, you make them twice as much a

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child of hell as you are. These are the religious

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people, by the way. These are the people entrusted

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with the words of God. These are the people that

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are called to be conduits in the kingdom of priests

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of the community, right? They're zealous for

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the mission, but what they're reproducing is

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themselves, not God. They're like, I'm going

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to reproduce myself, but myself isn't actually

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in line with who God is. And also note that religious

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leaders, where they were at, they were supposed

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to be ministering to the community they were

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in. Right. Um, and so Jesus is like, you who's

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supposed to be here are traveling way far over

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there to do what you're supposed to be doing

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here. Yeah. And then, oh, by the way, you're

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still not doing a good job of it. Right. Right.

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And that's just something to know. Um, a lot,

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a lot of places where I see this in, in like,

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uh, especially like, um, where a facet of this

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we can deal with in our church or our culture

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today. Stop arguing with the person on Facebook

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that lives in the UK when you're not talking

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to the neighbor who lives next to you. I'm going

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to leave it there. Yeah. Right. Like stop arguing

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with the person that you have no connection to

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when you're not talking to the people right next

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to you. Right. Anytime that it becomes about

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you being right or it becomes us versus them,

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you've lost the kingdom of God. Because the only

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thing that's us versus them is we want them to

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be with us. We want them to be redeemed. We want

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them in the family. We want them in the household.

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All of the thems. All of the thems. Every last

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one of them. Especially the ones we don't like.

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Discipleship that teaches people to defend positions

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but not to love neighbors and enemies. Yeah.

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It's problematic. And it creates the very thing

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that you're trying to fight against. Yeah. It's

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problematic. All right. Woe three. Verse 16.

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I think it's through. Yeah, I got it. It was

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a long one. I think it's through 22. Yeah, I

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got it. Blind guides, what sorrow awaits you.

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I love that. I love that. For you say that it

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means nothing to swear by God's temple, but it

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is binding to swear by the gold in the temple.

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Blind fools, which is more important, the gold

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in the temple, the gold or the temple that makes

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the gold sacred? And you say that to swear by

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the altar, it is not binding. But to swear by

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the gifts of the altar is binding. How blind!

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For which is more important, the gifts of the

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altar or the altar that makes the gifts sacred?

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For you swear by the altar, you are swearing

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by it and everything on it. And when you swear

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by the temple, you are swearing by it and by

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God who lives in it. And when you swear by heaven,

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you are swearing by the throne of God and by

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God who sits on the throne. So holy system of

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loopholes, Batman. Uh -huh. Right? Yeah. It's

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like they're building this system of loopholes

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where they're like, well, we swore by the gold,

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but we didn't swear by the temple. So technically,

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I don't have to keep my word. Right? Technically,

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I'm not bound. By the way, this is very reminiscent

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of Jesus saying, let your yes be yes and your

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no be no. Anything else comes from the devil?

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Yep. Right? It's ways to sound more pious than

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you actually are. And Jesus addresses them. He's

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like, hey, which of these is greater? In other

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words, guys, you lost the plot. You lost what's

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going on here. The sacredness is actually about

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God's presence, not about the objects or these

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games that you're playing. And if you've been

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around people any period of time, then you've

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probably seen them do this, this Christian version

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of loopholes. We do this in church, right? If

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we only get this program, if we only have this

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curriculum. Yeah. If we only have the next greatest

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soundboard, if we have perfect lights and perfect

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sound, people will show up and they will get

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to know Jesus. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. Right? But

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in scriptures, now I'm not going to go the route

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of like, where does it tell you you need to have

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a soundboard in scripture? They weren't invented

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yet. That's just a really bad argument. Right.

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Okay? Leave it at that. But in scripture, what

00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:52.119
is it about? Is it about programs or is it about

00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:54.720
relationships? It's about relationships. Right?

00:25:54.900 --> 00:25:57.200
So it's like when we were talking like, oh, we

00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:58.740
need this program. We need this program. We need

00:25:58.740 --> 00:26:00.339
this. We need this. If we have all these things,

00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:02.339
it'll make us look like we have it put together

00:26:02.339 --> 00:26:05.519
and church will be church again. It's like actually

00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:07.619
church is going to be church no matter what your

00:26:07.619 --> 00:26:10.980
building looks like if you are doing two things,

00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:13.640
loving God with everything you have and loving

00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:15.240
everybody who comes through those doors with

00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.369
everything you have. One of the places where

00:26:18.369 --> 00:26:20.089
this will show up frequently, and hopefully this

00:26:20.089 --> 00:26:21.910
doesn't hit somebody too hard, just understand

00:26:21.910 --> 00:26:23.990
it's meant in the best way possible. But when

00:26:23.990 --> 00:26:28.710
you're like, we love our community. And then

00:26:28.710 --> 00:26:30.289
you ask, so what do you do in your community?

00:26:30.390 --> 00:26:31.890
You're like, oh, well, you know, we have service.

00:26:35.049 --> 00:26:38.509
Okay, what else? Like, are you feeding the hungry?

00:26:39.099 --> 00:26:41.359
Do you visit the sick? Do you have a jail ministry?

00:26:42.180 --> 00:26:44.140
Do you have small groups where people can come

00:26:44.140 --> 00:26:48.740
and connect in homes? Do you clothe the naked?

00:26:48.940 --> 00:26:51.619
Do you take care of widows and orphans? Yeah.

00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:55.420
Do you support whatever it is? Do you get outside

00:26:55.420 --> 00:26:57.339
your church walls? Do you get outside your church

00:26:57.339 --> 00:26:59.339
walls? And by the way, that might not just be

00:26:59.339 --> 00:27:00.900
your church. That might be the members of your

00:27:00.900 --> 00:27:02.339
church are actively involved in those things.

00:27:02.380 --> 00:27:04.819
That's great, right? If you're a people, you

00:27:04.819 --> 00:27:06.519
don't have to organize as a church because the

00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:08.019
church is already involved in the community.

00:27:08.750 --> 00:27:11.349
That's a good problem. Well, like where we're

00:27:11.349 --> 00:27:14.529
at, there was a pretty big natural disaster that

00:27:14.529 --> 00:27:17.289
caused destruction of those homes, loss of one

00:27:17.289 --> 00:27:21.539
life, stuff like that. And we had people asking

00:27:21.539 --> 00:27:23.319
our church, like, well, like, how are you helping

00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.359
with this? The reality is, is we had people on

00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:29.640
the response team who were doing that. We had

00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:31.319
people who were part of like fire department,

00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:33.759
EMS. We had people who opened up their homes

00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:35.460
and house people. Yep. We had people who opened

00:27:35.460 --> 00:27:37.700
up their homes and house people. We had people

00:27:37.700 --> 00:27:40.220
who went and bought extra food and gave it to

00:27:40.220 --> 00:27:42.940
those who need it from that disaster. Right.

00:27:43.380 --> 00:27:46.750
And here's the thing. they didn't wait for the

00:27:46.750 --> 00:27:48.990
church to be like, okay, here's all the stuff

00:27:48.990 --> 00:27:52.089
we need to do. Right. They just went and were

00:27:52.089 --> 00:27:55.789
the church. I was, I was so like, uh, I was so

00:27:55.789 --> 00:27:58.369
impressed. And so like, man, I love my people.

00:27:58.450 --> 00:28:00.910
Yeah. Like I love God's people. Like, cause,

00:28:00.990 --> 00:28:02.569
and it wasn't just our church, by the way, there

00:28:02.569 --> 00:28:04.509
were other churches who did like incredible stuff.

00:28:04.670 --> 00:28:07.250
Yeah. Um, in the community. I just, I, when I

00:28:07.250 --> 00:28:08.990
was looking, I was like, I was like, that person

00:28:08.990 --> 00:28:10.509
loves Jesus. That person loves Jesus. Like they're

00:28:10.509 --> 00:28:12.569
just, you just see them. They're out there. Right.

00:28:13.289 --> 00:28:17.049
Um, Like that's when you say you love people,

00:28:17.190 --> 00:28:19.529
when you love your community and you're like,

00:28:19.549 --> 00:28:24.349
well, we do, but we don't have money to do this.

00:28:24.390 --> 00:28:27.910
We don't have time to do this. Love finds time.

00:28:28.410 --> 00:28:31.549
Love finds money. Yeah. Right. If you want to

00:28:31.549 --> 00:28:33.269
know what you love, take a look at your checkbook.

00:28:34.690 --> 00:28:37.670
They might say rent. Maybe you don't love rent.

00:28:40.269 --> 00:28:46.809
Take a look at your elective spending. Religion

00:28:46.809 --> 00:28:50.130
that is used to manage appearances and obligations

00:28:50.130 --> 00:28:52.130
instead of actually simply telling the truth

00:28:52.130 --> 00:28:55.930
and loving people is problematic. It is a portion

00:28:55.930 --> 00:28:59.730
of woe. Woe to you, because when you do things

00:28:59.730 --> 00:29:01.549
like this, you're part of a kingdom, and it's

00:29:01.549 --> 00:29:04.920
not the kingdom of God. All right, jumping in

00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:07.400
here. Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees,

00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:09.599
you hypocrites. You give a tenth of your spices,

00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.460
mint, dill, and cumin, but you have neglected

00:29:12.460 --> 00:29:14.859
the more important matters of the law, justice,

00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.099
mercy, faithfulness. I got a little bit of Micah

00:29:18.099 --> 00:29:20.640
kicking in there. You should have practiced the

00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:22.900
latter without neglecting the former. You blind

00:29:22.900 --> 00:29:25.980
guides, you strain out a gnat, but swallow a

00:29:25.980 --> 00:29:31.480
camel. So this is talking about... emphasizing

00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:34.819
really tiny details, right? Where you're like,

00:29:34.940 --> 00:29:40.180
if you do this, then this. But then there's completely

00:29:40.180 --> 00:29:42.440
other things that they just completely ignore,

00:29:42.619 --> 00:29:45.779
like loving people or justice or anything that

00:29:45.779 --> 00:29:47.799
goes on. There's like this little nitty gritty

00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:50.910
rule. There was a guy I was watching a reel and

00:29:50.910 --> 00:29:53.089
he said, you know, most evangelicals, we agree

00:29:53.089 --> 00:29:55.890
about like 99 .5 % of things and we disagree

00:29:55.890 --> 00:29:59.430
about 0 .5 of things. And even those are not

00:29:59.430 --> 00:30:02.750
really that big of a deal. And yet we have all

00:30:02.750 --> 00:30:05.490
these different denominations. Well, if you look

00:30:05.490 --> 00:30:09.029
cross -denominationally, I think it's like there's

00:30:09.029 --> 00:30:12.690
agreement on it's like 94, 95%. Yeah, it's really

00:30:12.690 --> 00:30:16.430
high. It's really high. And then it's usually...

00:30:16.859 --> 00:30:20.740
And don't get me wrong, there are some denominations

00:30:20.740 --> 00:30:23.079
that I think have made some deal -breaker theological

00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:27.500
stances. Yep. But for the most part, it's like

00:30:27.500 --> 00:30:33.089
they love Jesus. They love their community. And

00:30:33.089 --> 00:30:35.309
we should probably pause at this moment in the

00:30:35.309 --> 00:30:37.789
episode and say, we are making generalizations.

00:30:37.950 --> 00:30:40.549
Very generalizations. And that might not be your

00:30:40.549 --> 00:30:43.710
church. Correct. Your church might be knocking

00:30:43.710 --> 00:30:46.109
it out of the park. For example, I went to a

00:30:46.109 --> 00:30:48.190
Southern Baptist church in Georgia, and they

00:30:48.190 --> 00:30:50.250
were dancing in the aisles during worship. So

00:30:50.250 --> 00:30:51.950
clearly they don't have a problem with dancing.

00:30:52.170 --> 00:30:56.450
Uh -huh. Uh -huh. I think it just depends on,

00:30:56.490 --> 00:31:02.730
like, there's such a wide range of how churches

00:31:02.730 --> 00:31:06.210
respond. And oftentimes we come in and make generalizations

00:31:06.210 --> 00:31:08.529
of being like, this denomination believes this

00:31:08.529 --> 00:31:11.609
and 100 % acts like this. Okay, I'm going to

00:31:11.609 --> 00:31:14.109
tell you right now, a Southern Baptist church

00:31:14.109 --> 00:31:17.769
in Georgia. acts very differently than a Southern

00:31:17.769 --> 00:31:19.910
Baptist church in the Pacific Northwest. Yes,

00:31:19.910 --> 00:31:25.549
it does. Yes, it does. And so these generalizations,

00:31:25.609 --> 00:31:29.470
they're just kind of broad, sweeping. So take

00:31:29.470 --> 00:31:32.069
it as a high -level conversation, not as a specific

00:31:32.069 --> 00:31:34.049
critique. And if you're like, okay, I hear what

00:31:34.049 --> 00:31:36.930
you're saying, but our church is better than

00:31:36.930 --> 00:31:39.329
that. We're like, yes, deal. Great. We love it.

00:31:39.349 --> 00:31:42.170
Great. Okay. I thought we should throw that in

00:31:42.170 --> 00:31:44.029
there. It did sound like we were bashing the

00:31:44.029 --> 00:31:45.289
church too much. I agree. I agree. We actually

00:31:45.289 --> 00:31:50.509
love the church, period. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But

00:31:50.509 --> 00:31:52.289
it's also like our brothers and sisters, and

00:31:52.289 --> 00:31:54.609
sometimes we have a tendency to talk very plainly

00:31:54.609 --> 00:31:56.769
about our brothers and sisters because we love

00:31:56.769 --> 00:31:59.470
them. Yeah. But I want to specify, we really

00:31:59.470 --> 00:32:04.410
like these people, period. Yeah. Well, and let's

00:32:04.410 --> 00:32:07.460
just put... the little cultural piece of Alaska,

00:32:07.700 --> 00:32:09.759
which is very much of like, say what you need

00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.980
to say and then get out of my way. Um, that like

00:32:12.980 --> 00:32:15.099
culturally there's that element here where it's

00:32:15.099 --> 00:32:18.220
like, Hey, like where you're like, Oh, how's

00:32:18.220 --> 00:32:20.059
the weather? Like, what do you want? Yeah. Like

00:32:20.059 --> 00:32:21.339
don't, don't be your other, but just tell me

00:32:21.339 --> 00:32:25.019
what you want. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, what,

00:32:25.140 --> 00:32:26.839
when Jesus is talking about here, he's like,

00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:30.019
Hey, the point is not to stop tithing. The point

00:32:30.019 --> 00:32:32.279
is to not make tithing the thing and neglect

00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:36.779
mercy. The point is not to make ritual sacrifice

00:32:36.779 --> 00:32:40.579
the thing and neglect loving your neighbor. These

00:32:40.579 --> 00:32:43.920
are problematic things. And so when you become

00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.640
obsessed with precise theology on secondary issues,

00:32:46.819 --> 00:32:51.819
tertiary issues, with worship style, with dress

00:32:51.819 --> 00:32:54.859
codes, with the way that your liturgy is set

00:32:54.859 --> 00:32:58.589
up. But at the same time, you're having these

00:32:58.589 --> 00:33:01.490
conversations, and at the same time, you're not

00:33:01.490 --> 00:33:03.630
doing anything about injustice in your community.

00:33:03.789 --> 00:33:05.930
You're not doing anything about poverty in your

00:33:05.930 --> 00:33:08.210
community. You're not doing anything about loving

00:33:08.210 --> 00:33:14.390
people in your community. Like, whoa. Yeah. Don't

00:33:14.390 --> 00:33:17.650
stop doing the former. But, dude, you're missing

00:33:17.650 --> 00:33:19.250
some massive things. You're sitting here talking

00:33:19.250 --> 00:33:23.809
about 10 % on cumin, and you're letting your

00:33:23.809 --> 00:33:27.829
buddy down the street die. What is that money

00:33:27.829 --> 00:33:32.569
being used for? I'm a firm believer when you

00:33:32.569 --> 00:33:34.869
give money to an organization, that's their money

00:33:34.869 --> 00:33:36.990
now. You don't have it anymore. It's not yours.

00:33:37.509 --> 00:33:40.789
If you don't like what that organization is doing,

00:33:40.950 --> 00:33:46.930
don't give your money to them. If you're at a

00:33:46.930 --> 00:33:48.490
church and you're like, man, I really don't like

00:33:48.490 --> 00:33:50.190
what this church is doing, you don't have to

00:33:50.190 --> 00:33:52.250
give them your money. But if you decide to give

00:33:52.250 --> 00:33:54.789
them your money, then... You really have no,

00:33:54.789 --> 00:33:57.009
yeah. You have no say. Right. At that point,

00:33:57.049 --> 00:33:59.390
right? That's at least my stance on it. Right.

00:33:59.509 --> 00:34:01.730
And somebody may disagree with us and you are

00:34:01.730 --> 00:34:05.130
welcome to your own opinion. Yep. Yeah. But,

00:34:05.289 --> 00:34:10.869
sorry, that was a rabbit hole, but it also is

00:34:10.869 --> 00:34:13.989
something for us as church leaders, how are we

00:34:13.989 --> 00:34:16.449
using that money? That was my rabbit. I know.

00:34:16.590 --> 00:34:19.230
I was just going to move past it, but you're

00:34:19.230 --> 00:34:21.670
like, I have to bring it up. But it's like, as

00:34:21.670 --> 00:34:25.170
church leaders, what are we prioritizing for,

00:34:25.289 --> 00:34:28.230
that money for? Are we saying, hey, we want that

00:34:28.230 --> 00:34:31.510
money to make the building look good and new

00:34:31.510 --> 00:34:33.190
sound system, new lights, new stuff like that?

00:34:33.869 --> 00:34:36.369
I'm really hoping Pastor Dick is listening to

00:34:36.369 --> 00:34:37.989
this because we got a new sound system not too

00:34:37.989 --> 00:34:41.809
long ago. And sometimes those things are needed,

00:34:41.949 --> 00:34:45.369
right? Right. But also, like, is that money being

00:34:45.369 --> 00:34:48.190
allocated towards missions, towards supporting

00:34:48.190 --> 00:34:51.369
local missionaries, to reaching the lost, to

00:34:51.369 --> 00:34:53.750
feeding the hungry, taking care of the poor,

00:34:53.869 --> 00:34:57.670
et cetera, right? And you can tell a lot about

00:34:57.670 --> 00:35:01.110
a church if a church is willing to say, you know

00:35:01.110 --> 00:35:05.769
what, this new thing would be nice, but we don't

00:35:05.769 --> 00:35:07.969
need that. Let's save up for it, and we still

00:35:07.969 --> 00:35:10.670
want to keep our money going towards people.

00:35:11.190 --> 00:35:13.210
One of the biggest things about your faith is

00:35:13.210 --> 00:35:17.050
if your faith, if your faith as it grows helps

00:35:17.050 --> 00:35:18.889
you walk a straight and narrow path, that's not

00:35:18.889 --> 00:35:22.909
a bad problem. But if your faith doesn't also

00:35:22.909 --> 00:35:25.030
make you more loving, something's off. Yeah.

00:35:25.369 --> 00:35:28.789
Right? Yeah. Like straight and narrow, great.

00:35:29.050 --> 00:35:30.730
But if at the same time you're not growing in

00:35:30.730 --> 00:35:33.610
love, something's off. Yeah. Right? And like

00:35:33.610 --> 00:35:35.809
Jesus is saying is like, if you're only focused

00:35:35.809 --> 00:35:38.090
on this piece and it's never growing this piece,

00:35:38.289 --> 00:35:41.550
what's going on? Don't stop doing the other thing.

00:35:42.190 --> 00:35:44.969
There's everything good about that. Yeah. But

00:35:44.969 --> 00:35:49.170
worship service on Sunday morning is great. Yeah.

00:35:49.630 --> 00:35:51.710
But if you're not loving people in the community,

00:35:51.989 --> 00:35:54.590
what's your Sunday morning for? Yeah. Right?

00:35:57.530 --> 00:35:59.690
Yeah, man. I got to keep going. We'll be in these

00:35:59.690 --> 00:36:03.130
forever. Woe five. What sorrow awaits you teachers

00:36:03.130 --> 00:36:05.730
of the religious law and you Pharisees? Hypocrites.

00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:09.639
For you are so careful to clean the outside of

00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:12.179
the cup and the dish, but the inside is filthy,

00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.420
full of greed and self -indulgence. You blind

00:36:15.420 --> 00:36:19.139
Pharisees, first wash the inside of the cup or

00:36:19.139 --> 00:36:22.000
the dish, then the outside will become clean

00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:26.059
too. Now, total modern application is super easy

00:36:26.059 --> 00:36:27.519
to do, but really quick, I just want to mention,

00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:29.780
there is actually Jewish teaching on cleaning

00:36:29.780 --> 00:36:32.730
the inside of your cup first. Right. And it's

00:36:32.730 --> 00:36:34.690
about like renewing of the heart. And Jesus says

00:36:34.690 --> 00:36:35.989
you need to focus on eternal transformation,

00:36:36.269 --> 00:36:38.530
outward holiness without inner change is fake.

00:36:38.889 --> 00:36:40.969
Well, also when you clean, just take a dish,

00:36:41.010 --> 00:36:43.090
for example, when you clean the inside of a cup,

00:36:43.150 --> 00:36:46.269
that water overflows and already starts to permeate

00:36:46.269 --> 00:36:50.230
the crap on the outside. Right. And there might

00:36:50.230 --> 00:36:53.429
be some application for real life in that. Well,

00:36:53.449 --> 00:36:57.730
and to what we just were talking about, if your

00:36:57.730 --> 00:37:00.489
worship service is great and your pastor dress

00:37:00.489 --> 00:37:02.789
is really snappy and he's got a three -point

00:37:02.789 --> 00:37:06.710
sermon and the altar call is 5 .4 minutes long

00:37:06.710 --> 00:37:08.530
with this song with four verses that's really

00:37:08.530 --> 00:37:11.710
good, and yet everybody in there is not actually

00:37:11.710 --> 00:37:14.449
being inspired to love God more, love people

00:37:14.449 --> 00:37:17.019
more. They're not actually being equipped for

00:37:17.019 --> 00:37:19.800
service for the community. There's a problem.

00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:21.760
You're cleaning the outside of your cup, and

00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.519
it looks really nice, but inwardly, it's got

00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:28.980
that grime. It's got that grime. Where am I spending

00:37:28.980 --> 00:37:31.940
my energy? Am I managing my image, or am I actually

00:37:31.940 --> 00:37:36.280
tending my heart? We are sometimes so concerned

00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:37.800
with what people think about us that we're never

00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:43.099
actually where we're supposed to be. This next

00:37:43.099 --> 00:37:48.639
one is a very similar one here. 27. Woe to you,

00:37:48.699 --> 00:37:50.679
teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites.

00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:53.380
You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful

00:37:53.380 --> 00:37:55.300
on the outside, but on the inside are full of

00:37:55.300 --> 00:37:57.719
bones of the dead and everything unclean. In

00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:00.059
the same way, on the outside you appear people

00:38:00.059 --> 00:38:01.940
of righteousness, but on the inside you are full

00:38:01.940 --> 00:38:06.039
of hypocrisy and wickedness. Hey, you look really

00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.000
good, but when somebody gets close to you, man,

00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.639
you reek of death. You reek of death. Right?

00:38:12.860 --> 00:38:19.260
Yeah. I don't want to get into this because I

00:38:19.260 --> 00:38:21.360
think that too many of us would be too fast to

00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:23.320
jump on our churches about this. Yeah. There's

00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:25.179
probably more life there than you think. And

00:38:25.179 --> 00:38:27.300
one of the things I want to say here is if your

00:38:27.300 --> 00:38:29.659
church is a church that is dead inside, you say,

00:38:29.739 --> 00:38:31.500
you're like, man, we are a whitewashed tomb with

00:38:31.500 --> 00:38:34.380
bones inside. Jesus also breathed on bones and

00:38:34.380 --> 00:38:38.119
brought them back to life. That's your prayer.

00:38:38.300 --> 00:38:40.739
Yeah. Jesus, breathe on our church and bring

00:38:40.739 --> 00:38:44.400
us back to life. Yeah. Right? Last one here,

00:38:44.500 --> 00:38:47.519
verse 29. What sorrow awaits you teachers of

00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:50.440
religious law in you Pharisees? Hypocrites, for

00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:57.320
you blind tombs you build. Wow. Blind tombs.

00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.280
Walk out. Watch out. You don't want to blind

00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.260
those tombs. I'm reading that wrong. Hypocrites.

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For you build tombs for the prophets and your

00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.679
ancestors killed, and you decorate monuments

00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:12.360
of the godly people your ancestors destroyed.

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Then you say, if we had lived in the days of

00:39:16.659 --> 00:39:20.320
our ancestors, we would have never joined them

00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:25.039
in killing the prophets. So this, remember, go

00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:29.219
back on this tale about the vineyard, right?

00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:35.639
Yep. like you honor the dead prophets while the

00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:38.059
living word of God is standing in front of you.

00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:39.900
Jesus, the torment flesh is standing in front

00:39:39.900 --> 00:39:42.739
of you. And you're like, we would never do that.

00:39:42.820 --> 00:39:44.900
By the way, we're totally plotting your death.

00:39:45.420 --> 00:39:48.820
Right. And Jesus was like, guess what? You're

00:39:48.820 --> 00:39:50.900
actually literally about to do that. I'm right

00:39:50.900 --> 00:39:53.639
here. I just told you a parable about it. You

00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:57.599
know, you're going to complete with your ancestors

00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:59.460
started. You were actually perfecting a sin.

00:39:59.869 --> 00:40:04.829
of your ancestors. And think about this, because

00:40:04.829 --> 00:40:07.670
how often are people quoting Jesus, and they're

00:40:07.670 --> 00:40:09.349
quoting Paul, they quote Peter, they quote James,

00:40:09.489 --> 00:40:10.809
they quote people from church history, Martin

00:40:10.809 --> 00:40:15.469
Luther and Diedrich Bonhoeffer, and just different

00:40:15.469 --> 00:40:18.570
people from church history that have had to step

00:40:18.570 --> 00:40:21.750
into really gnarly situations and have put the

00:40:21.750 --> 00:40:23.469
gospel on their back and they quote from them,

00:40:23.590 --> 00:40:25.590
but they're not also the same kind of people

00:40:25.590 --> 00:40:28.190
who are willing to go and have that costly obedience.

00:40:30.219 --> 00:40:33.639
Right. You have to be willing to step in there

00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:36.179
to be different, to break the chain, to step

00:40:36.179 --> 00:40:38.619
into what God has called you to do. Yep. Right.

00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:44.380
So true. So then Jesus, I'm going to end here

00:40:44.380 --> 00:40:47.099
with this because it's his lament. And I, I just,

00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:49.679
uh, I'm going to read this and then we'll make

00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:54.949
one comment on it. Um, just one. By the way,

00:40:54.949 --> 00:40:57.730
he quotes from John earlier. He says, you snakes,

00:40:57.969 --> 00:41:01.300
you brood of vipers, how will you escape? being

00:41:01.300 --> 00:41:03.199
condemned to hell. Therefore, I'm sending you

00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:05.260
prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them

00:41:05.260 --> 00:41:08.119
you will kill and crucify. Others you will flog

00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:10.099
in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.

00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:11.800
And so upon you will all the righteous blood

00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:13.659
that has been shed on earth and the blood of

00:41:13.659 --> 00:41:15.780
the righteous able to the blood of Zechariah,

00:41:15.820 --> 00:41:18.539
son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the

00:41:18.539 --> 00:41:20.239
temple and the altar. By the way, that's a great

00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.280
story. I'm not going to get into it. Truly, I

00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:24.400
tell you, all this will be coming to this generation.

00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:28.809
He's like, guys, it's coming home to roost. And

00:41:28.809 --> 00:41:30.389
then he looks at them. He looks at the leaders

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and just understand that Jerusalem is a place

00:41:32.849 --> 00:41:34.469
of leadership. So he's talking to leaders here.

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Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets

00:41:39.309 --> 00:41:43.750
and stone those who sent to you. How often I

00:41:43.750 --> 00:41:45.829
have longed to gather your children together

00:41:45.829 --> 00:41:47.969
as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings.

00:41:48.329 --> 00:41:50.989
You were not willing. Look, your house is left

00:41:50.989 --> 00:41:53.250
to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not

00:41:53.250 --> 00:41:55.210
see me again until you say, blessed is he who

00:41:55.210 --> 00:41:57.500
comes in the name of the Lord. Which is ironic

00:41:57.500 --> 00:41:59.519
because that's what they said when he came into

00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:05.500
town. Right? This is not a gleeful condemnation.

00:42:05.500 --> 00:42:09.780
This is a heartbreaking longing. I wanted to

00:42:09.780 --> 00:42:12.559
gather you like chicks under my wings. Yeah.

00:42:13.539 --> 00:42:16.519
You were not willing. And I couldn't force you.

00:42:16.940 --> 00:42:21.059
Yeah. Remember the vineyard story? God sends

00:42:21.059 --> 00:42:23.300
servants again and again. Then he sends his son.

00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:27.800
And he shows staggering patience and mercy. Right?

00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:32.920
Yeah. The human response is reject, kill, push

00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.039
away those who confront our norms, our views,

00:42:35.219 --> 00:42:41.659
our desires. Right? Yeah. It's problematic. So

00:42:41.659 --> 00:42:44.900
I have a couple questions here. So if you grew

00:42:44.900 --> 00:42:48.320
up in the church, I want you guys to write to

00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:51.099
us. Where are you closest to the Pharisees in

00:42:51.099 --> 00:42:56.260
this chapter? Where do you see yourself? Ask

00:42:56.260 --> 00:42:58.239
yourself, do I load people up with expectations

00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:01.840
but not walk with them? Do I love titles, influence,

00:43:02.059 --> 00:43:08.099
or the feeling of being right? Do I use religious

00:43:08.099 --> 00:43:10.139
language to protect my lifestyle or politics?

00:43:11.659 --> 00:43:14.239
Do I strain out gnats and swallow camels? Now,

00:43:14.260 --> 00:43:16.800
that's obviously not literally. First of all,

00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:18.760
if anybody does swallow camels literally, please

00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:20.179
tell me because I want to know. That's crazy.

00:43:20.739 --> 00:43:24.019
But obviously, we're talking about to you. focus

00:43:24.019 --> 00:43:25.739
on the small things and then just swallow big

00:43:25.739 --> 00:43:29.800
things wrong. Yeah. I want to give you guys a

00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:32.559
quote from a couple episodes ago. It was either

00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:34.099
Spencer and I. We said, when you realize you're

00:43:34.099 --> 00:43:36.119
doing a dumb thing, the best thing you can do

00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:37.980
is stop doing the dumb thing and course correct.

00:43:38.780 --> 00:43:41.639
Right? Yep. Let Jesus clean the inside of your

00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:43.739
cup. Ask the Holy Spirit, show me where I'm acting.

00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:46.840
Show me where I'm putting on a show. Grow me

00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:48.780
in justice, peace, and faithfulness. Return me

00:43:48.780 --> 00:43:50.340
to the core of love God and love other people.

00:43:50.659 --> 00:43:54.019
Because Jesus is like, I want to take you, you,

00:43:54.139 --> 00:43:56.420
the people that are broken, the people who are

00:43:56.420 --> 00:43:58.340
awful, the people who are literally murdering

00:43:58.340 --> 00:44:01.420
people generation to generation. I still want

00:44:01.420 --> 00:44:06.719
you. Yeah. But you got to come. Yeah. I'm not

00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:12.820
going to force you. Yep. Think of it like. If

00:44:12.820 --> 00:44:14.719
you're a parent, you could probably relate to

00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:18.260
this. There are times where I have to tell my

00:44:18.260 --> 00:44:21.480
kid, you're doing this right now, right? Ben's

00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:23.099
laughing because he knows my kid. I've been there.

00:44:25.019 --> 00:44:29.280
And there are also times where I really want

00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:33.119
my kid to like the things I like, but I can't

00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:36.340
force that, right? Where I can keep inviting

00:44:36.340 --> 00:44:39.699
them to come alongside and be like, come experience

00:44:39.699 --> 00:44:43.940
this with me. but I can't force them to like

00:44:43.940 --> 00:44:48.119
it. And on a personal level, like I'm having

00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:50.059
that struggle around a few things with my child

00:44:50.059 --> 00:44:53.300
right now, but I can't force her to like those

00:44:53.300 --> 00:44:56.860
things. And so that's what God's doing with us.

00:44:56.940 --> 00:45:00.460
He's like, I really, really want you to join

00:45:00.460 --> 00:45:03.179
me on this journey. Yeah. There's a way life

00:45:03.179 --> 00:45:05.219
is supposed to work and I want you to engage

00:45:05.219 --> 00:45:07.440
with it, but I'm not going to force you because

00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:11.969
you've got to want it. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Jesus

00:45:11.969 --> 00:45:14.030
confronts leadership. That's the first three

00:45:14.030 --> 00:45:18.090
parts. Next week. I forgot what next week is.

00:45:18.090 --> 00:45:19.969
Just reiterating, he does confront leadership.

00:45:20.130 --> 00:45:23.250
He also starts with grace in inviting them in.

00:45:23.690 --> 00:45:25.949
before going to confrontation. So next week,

00:45:25.989 --> 00:45:28.190
we're actually going to be getting into a little

00:45:28.190 --> 00:45:29.949
bit different, because rather than confronting

00:45:29.949 --> 00:45:32.349
leadership and inviting them, he's actually going

00:45:32.349 --> 00:45:34.230
to be having an intimate dinner with his disciples.

00:45:34.590 --> 00:45:36.929
And we're going to just talk about everything

00:45:36.929 --> 00:45:39.630
that's going on in this Seder, this reenacting

00:45:39.630 --> 00:45:42.429
of the Exodus, right? And how Jesus is really

00:45:42.429 --> 00:45:45.349
bringing about another Exodus. And probably one

00:45:45.349 --> 00:45:48.179
of my favorite pictures, when he... Watches at

00:45:48.179 --> 00:45:51.000
his disciples feet because they are like, so

00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:54.639
like, what are you doing? Yeah. Amen. Yeah. Until

00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:58.750
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00:45:58.750 --> 00:46:01.230
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00:46:01.230 --> 00:46:03.710
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