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Welcome to Season 3 of Love & Context. This season,

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we're exploring the life of Jesus step -by -step

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and uncovering what His story teaches us about

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loving God and others. Here on Love & Context,

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we're all about having real conversations about

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how to live out that love in practical, everyday

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ways, and understanding the Bible in its full

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context. We're so glad you're here. Let's dive

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into Season 3 of Love & Context. Welcome back

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to the Loving Context podcast. Side note, Ben's

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starting a DJ career. If any of you have bar

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mitzvahs, he only does bar mitzvahs. Only bar

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mitzvahs. Yeah, no bat mitzvahs, only bar mitzvahs.

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Just bar mitzvahs. It is Wednesday, and we're

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both exhausted. It is one of those days. People

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don't know, but we post on Friday, but usually

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we record on Wednesday. And we were going to

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record last Wednesday, but Spencer was so sad

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about the Mariners that he couldn't record. No,

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that's not it. But we could record on Wednesday,

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and sometimes we get here, and I'm like, this

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feels like the end of the week. And it's not.

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And I've got like two more days to go. And I'm

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like, hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Wednesdays, we did try

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recording on Fridays, but my usually like my

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Wednesday, Thursdays are just slammed. And by

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the time I get to Friday afternoon, my thoughts

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are like, all right, we are talking Bible stuff

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and there's words here we should read. And I

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have a thought it's somewhere. And those are

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the things Ben gets to edit out. He gets there

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and he's like, he's like, yeah, that guy that

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did the thing. Jesus. If you guys remember last

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episode, we talked about Lazarus, the raising

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of Lazarus, and we're going to be jumping right

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around that story. There's going to be this time

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where Jesus is now the start of the passion.

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He's going to be going into Jerusalem, and that's

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the story that we're going to be reading today.

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We're going to read it from two different places,

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even though you can find it in all four Gospels.

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We're going to start in Matthew, and I think

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you got that one. Yeah. As Jesus and the disciples

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approached Jerusalem, they came to a town of

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Bethpage on the Mount of Olives. Jesus sent two

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of them ahead, go into the village there. He

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said, as soon as you enter it, you will see a

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donkey tied there with the colt beside it. Untie

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and bring them to me. If anyone asks what you're

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doing, just say the Lord needs them and he will

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immediately let you take them. This took place

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to fulfill the prophecy that was said, tell the

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people of Jerusalem, look, your king is coming

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to you. He is humble, riding on a donkey, riding

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on a donkey's colt. The two disciples did as

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Jesus commanded. They brought the donkey and

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the colt to him and they threw their garments

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over the colt and he sat on it. Most of the crowd

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spread their garments on the road ahead of him,

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and the others cut branches from trees and spread

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them on the ground. Jesus is a Jew, so that's

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okay. You nailed it. Jesus was in the center

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of the procession, and the people all around

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him were shouting, Praise God for the son of

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David. Blessings to the one who has come in the

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name of the Lord. Praise God in the highest heavens.

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Uh, they enter the city of Jerusalem, uh, the

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entire city of Jerusalem. I am so tired. Let's

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try that again. The entire city of Jerusalem,

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uh, uproared as he entered. Who is this? They

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asked. The crowds replied. It is Jesus, the prophet

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from Nazareth in Galilee. All right, so Spencer

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says that he's tired, and that's why he's having

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trouble reading. I think we all know, and we've

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established on this podcast, Spencer can't read.

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He's just memorized a lot of words. Yeah, it's

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not like that's what I teach at school every

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day. All right, now let's hear this from the

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Gospel of John. So the reason I chose Matthew

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and John is Matthew's going to be one of the

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earlier accounts written, and John's going to

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be one of the later accounts written down. And

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so just kind of seeing how they're shaped for

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a different audience. Also, Matthew written more

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to a Jewish audience. John also writing to Jews,

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but in a Gentile area. So starting in chapter

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12. So he's just had, they just had this conversation

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with, they've called out Lazarus. Then he's been

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anointed by Mary. And Judas has that conversation

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about like, oh, you could have sold this for

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the poor, even though that's definitely not what

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was going to happen. And, So it says, the next

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day. So this is what happened previously. The

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next day, the great crowds that had come for

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the festival heard that Jesus was on his way

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to Jerusalem. They took palm branches and went

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out to meet him, shouting, Hosanna, blessed is

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he who comes in the name of the Lord. Blessed

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is the king of Israel. Jesus found a young donkey

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and sat on it. As it is written, do not be afraid,

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daughter Zion. See, your king is coming, seated

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on a donkey's colt. At first, his disciples did

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not understand all this. Only after Jesus was

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glorified did they realize that these things

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had been written about him and that these things

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had been done to him. Now the crowd. that was

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with him when he raised Lazarus from the tomb

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and raised him from the dead continued to spread

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the word. Many people, because they had heard

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that he had performed this sign, went out to

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meet him. So the Pharisees said to one another,

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see, this is getting us nowhere. Look how the

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whole world has gone after him. Okay. So a little

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context here. Jesus isn't the only one entering

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in a procession. There's another guy by the name

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of Pontius Pilate that's also entering in a procession.

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And he's going to have this military procession.

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There's going to be soldiers and weapons and

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horses. And there's going to be Hail Caesar and

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all these different things that are going on.

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This military type of procession coming into

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this city. And then you've got Jesus coming in

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on the other side. Cold donkey, free people,

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praising. cutting down palm trees, which we'll

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get to in a minute. But the reality here is that

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we've got two kings, we've got two kingdoms,

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and there's a collision of pageantry, if you

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will. Jerusalem's population is roughly seven

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times its normal population because of the festivals

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that are coming up Passover. It's one of the

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three festivals that you actually come and you're

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there for pilgrimage. uh, this one. And then

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typically they'll stay for Shavuot, which is

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50 days later. This is going to be a tense time

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for the Romans because this is the celebration

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of Passover, which is when they're celebrating,

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um, Exodus from Egypt. When a dictator was overthrown

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by the power of God, um, makes you, makes you

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a little bit nervous about like riots breaking

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out. That's why Pontius Pilate is even there.

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Um, So there's a ton of political messianic tension,

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right? Expectations. There's, there's tension

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going on here. Um, pilot is coming in with this,

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this position of power and authority and sword.

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And, um, you know, what Rome is is that they're

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going to lay waste to all of their enemies. And

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Jesus is riding on donkey, right? He's coming

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in. And, uh, if you actually read the account

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in Luke, he's actually going to, um, he's actually

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going to weep when he actually sees them rejoicing.

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And we're going to talk about why that is in

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just a minute. But this is a very, very different

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picture because like if you think about what

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the people are expecting, they're expecting this

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messianic king that's going to rise up and destroy

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Rome and put Israel back in forefront. And Jesus

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is doing none of that. You have that. That's

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Rome. I mean, obviously the Jewish people are

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oppressed, but it's like that's their thing.

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It's not what I'm doing. Well, and that's a realistic

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expectation because they're coming from the context

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of the Exodus, right? Where the world powerhouse

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was brought to its knees by the Lord, right?

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And so Rome at the time spread through parts

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of Africa, Middle East, over like through what

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would be modern day Pakistan, Turkey, all the

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way up into Europe, right? Italy, and it was

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actually working on its spread northward and

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actually eventually did get all the way over

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to England, right? So Rome was this massive,

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massive empire, right? And so the Jews are probably

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holding on to only our God can take care of this,

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right? Only our God can free us from these guys,

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right? As crazy as it is, Rome is almost more

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formidable than Egypt was. It was more formidable.

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Yeah. Like from their perspective, because I

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mean, like, yes, they were enslaved in Egypt

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and Egypt was a powerhouse, but now Rome is like

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the nation conquering nation. Right. One of the

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things that's going on in the story is every

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word, every prop is telling a story in this.

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So one of the first things that's actually mentioned

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is it comes from Zechariah 9. That's not even

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a word. That's not a number. That's not a reference.

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It comes from Zechariah 9. And it says that the

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king comes humbly. riding on a donkey, bringing

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peace instead of war. Now the next verse, Zechariah

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9 and 10, is then going to declare that the king

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will banish chariots and command peace to the

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nations. So he comes on the colt saying, I'm

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bringing peace, not war. But that's not what

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the people see. Like Jesus is telling a story

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even how he's coming in. He's like, I'm bringing

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peace, not war. And they're just like, yeah,

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peace when you drive out the Romans and then

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we'll be at peace, right? They actually quote,

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let's see here, donkeys in the Old Testament

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in Solomon in 1 Kings 1 .33, donkeys will symbolize

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royal mounts for peacetime kings. They quote

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from Psalm 118. You heard that. We said the crowd's

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cry of Hosanna come from this festival. It's

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actually a festival hymn, right? Sung as pilgrims

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as they enter the temple. Save us, we pray, O

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Lord, is the exclamation of hope, right? From

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the Psalm. And there's actually even a connection

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back to Genesis 49, where it says that Jacob

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has this oracle over Judah, where he says the

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kingship is going to be tied to a donkey. Right.

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Your kingship is actually gonna be tied to a

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donkey in Genesis 49. So there's a lot of things

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that are connecting from the Torah here. And,

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um, I don't want to say that people miss all

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of it, but they miss a lot of it. And I think

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John highlights as well. He's like, we didn't

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really understand what he was doing, but after

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he rose, we're like, Oh yeah. And like, And don't

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jump on the people's case too much on this. No,

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totally BS. Let's just ask a simple question.

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Have you ever been so single -minded or focused

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that when a change in direction is put in front

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of you, you still can't make that change? Right.

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Right? So my daughter's second grade and your

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son's first grade? Mm -hmm. Am I about to hear

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a story about today? No, you're not. But there

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has been times where my kid has been so focused

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on every detail on how something's going to play

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out that when one little thing gets off, she's

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like... My world is undone and there's no way

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I can function throughout the rest of the day.

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Well, there's also, and beyond that too, there's

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also this thing of like, we have this expectation

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of how we think it's going to play out. Like

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to your point, one of my favorite stories is

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the story about there's this flood coming into

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an area and this guy, his neighbors come and

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tell him, they're like, hey, you got to evacuate

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because there's flood coming in there. He's like,

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listen, I already prayed and God told me he would

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save me. And they're like. Okay. So then later

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the floodwaters would come up to the, to the

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top of the roof, right? And he's sitting on the

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roof and this guy comes up in a boat and he says,

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Hey, you know, we're getting people out of here,

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like jump on the boat. And he says, no, God already

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told me that he had saved me. And then he's standing

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on the top of the roof and the water's up to

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his chest and a helicopter comes up and he says,

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dude, we can get you out of here. Come give me

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your hand. We'll get you out of here and we'll

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save you. He says, nope. God already said that

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he would save me. Then he drowns and dies. And

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he's in heaven. He asked God, he's like, God,

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you told me that you would save me. He's like,

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I sent your neighbors. I sent a boat and I sent

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a helicopter. What do you need? Right. And, uh,

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and so we're like, well, this is how God's going

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to save. This is how God is going to, um, he's

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going to, he's going to fix the world. Right.

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Um, and, and I would also say, don't get on the

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Hebrews case about, uh, about them having this

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focus of the heat. We're going to get freed from

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Roman oppression because look at, look at the

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old Testament moving forward. You have, you have

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Egypt that gets freed from Egypt, right? You

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have them being conquered by Assyrians. They

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get freed from that. The Babylonians, they get

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freed from that. I'm probably forgetting a few

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others, but like, but you see, you see what I'm

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saying? There's other nations that have come

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in and conquered them time and time again. And

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the Lord has brought up somebody to free them

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from that. Right. So it, so in their minds, it

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is a very, very continuing a pattern, very reasonable

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expectation to say the Lord's going to rise up

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somebody to free us from Rome. So the, uh, so

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the question I wrote here as a prompt for us

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to talk about kind of talking through these points

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because what they do, um, by the way, once again,

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I want to point out, we're not getting onto the

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Jewish people. We're just using them as a talking

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point, really talking about us. Right. Um, did

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the crowd cheer for the wrong kind of Messiah?

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And would we have to? Yeah, because so one of

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the things they're doing is they spread cloaks

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on the on the road If you look at 2nd Kings 913

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that Jehu is proclaimed king. This is the same

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thing that they do So this is a king thing you

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throw your cloaks out The palms symbolize victory

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and Jewish nationalism, but they're often used

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in revolts like the Maccabean uprising Which

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happened just a couple hundred years before right?

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And, uh, so in your, in your, like their head,

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they're like, Oh, this is it. This is Maccabean.

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This is what we've seen. This is like, they're

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going to come and liberate. They're going to

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come and overthrow. Uh, we're going to see, you

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know, all these things coming back. And in the

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middle of this, people are, they're going, they're

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Hoshana, Hoshana, you know, and they're excited

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because they're like, Rome is going down. And

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if you read the, um, read the text in Luke says

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that Jesus looks at it and he starts crying.

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And I remember when we talked about Lazarus,

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we talked about that Jesus wept. And it's one

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word for it's like deep emotional anguish. The

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word here is different. And he's very sad. Like

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he's actually shedding tears, like legit tears.

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Like this is heartbreaking for him. It's hard.

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Yeah. And I mean, we do that. Like as parents,

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we do that, right? Yeah. When our kids get so

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stuck in their ways and they're like, you are

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just missing the point. I mean, sometimes we

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shed tears. Sometimes we yell a little bit, right?

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Speak for yourself. I have never yelled in my

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life. I have never heard you yell at your kids.

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Hey, get down from there. Exactly. But, you know,

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that's just kind of it's. It's one of those things

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that we can relate to as well. Yeah. Like Jesus

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sees the people doing this and these people think

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they're doing the right thing. Yeah. And Jesus

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is like, no, like you're missing it. This. Okay.

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So kids is actually a great way to talk about

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this because we went to the zoo. It was either

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Boise Zoo or it was the - To be clear, Ben went

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to the zoo with his kids. I didn't go with Ben.

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Yeah. Spencer and I went to the zoo. Just Ben

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and I went to the zoo. We ate some corn dogs

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and we had popcorn. No, I'm just kidding. So

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I can't remember if it was the Anchorage Zoo

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or the Boise Zoo, but we went to the zoo because

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James wanted to see animals, right? And so this

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was sometime in the last couple of years. Right

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at the entrance of the zoo, there's like these

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little animal figures that you can like - crawl

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on mm -hmm and James wanted to crawl on him totally

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fine right then we're actually gonna go into

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the zoo We're going to go because there's a playground

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on the way. You can see the tigers. You can see

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the bears. We can see the fish. All the things

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that are going on. I still thought you were going

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to go lion so that I could go, oh, my. Sorry.

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I messed you up. Sorry. I was waiting. I mean,

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I teed you up, and then you went to fish. And

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I was like, bro, golden opportunity. That's how

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you can tell I did not plan what I was about

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to say before I said it because I totally would

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have done that. Oh, my. anyways so he's on this

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playing with these like little figurines like

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he's playing with them and he doesn't want to

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leave he's like these are the best things that

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I've ever had or been around and so we're like

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hey we need to go deeper in and he just pitches

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the biggest fit I'm sure you have no idea what

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this is like right And, and like, it gets to

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this point where I know where we're going and

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I know the excitement that he's going to have.

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Yeah. But I almost don't want to go there now

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because it's getting ruined, you know, because

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he's focusing on something. He's focusing on

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something of not where we're going, but like

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where we are. Yeah. And he's so focused on where

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we are that he doesn't understand. I'm like,

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dude, you have no idea what's coming. You have

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no idea what's coming. Yeah. You know, and you

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are, you are so convinced that this is the best

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thing that's ever happened to you. We need to

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go deeper. Right. And I just, I just think that

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this is a lot of what like is happening. And

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this, this is like legitimate, like fears and

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concerns. And like, I don't want to minimize

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how people feel when, when oppression and sin

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and brokenness and all the things that we deal

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with in life. Right. Where we're waiting for

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God to break through where we're at. And we're

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like, we're like, you know, right here. Like

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God's going to do this. But he's like, dude,

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just go a little bit deeper. I've got something

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way better planned for you. Right? No! You know?

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Well, and you look at the act of throwing your

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cloaks down and throwing palm trees down. Part

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of the reason that this was done, or at least

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this is one interpretation of it, is the roads

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that you traveled on back in those days were

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incredibly dirty. Right? They were full, we've

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talked about it, full of animal poop and full

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of just like, they were not clean around. And

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in case you missed that, he said poop. Poop.

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Yes, animal poop. And so you, like, this is the

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only podcast that talks about the Bible and poop.

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So, but part of that act of like throwing your

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cloak down for a king or a savior or something

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like that is you are trying to keep them clean

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and pure in the sight of the Lord. Like it's

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this imagery piece that takes place, right? Yeah.

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But then the question becomes is why were they

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trying to keep him? Why were they trying to keep

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this purity, right? Were they trying to keep

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it for Jesus' sake so that Jesus could remain

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pure? Or were they trying to do it for their

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own sake of like, if we keep him pure, we get

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saved from this oppression, right? And like,

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if you take that interpretation, I personally,

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and please don't take this as like, this is...

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like a hundred percent theologically true. This

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is just a Spencer interpretation. Okay. But we

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take that. And then personally, I see Jesus going

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and weeping and being like, you guys just missed

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the point. Yeah. It's not just about you. Yeah.

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Right. Well, and that's, and that's, what's going

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to be continuing to go on as, as, because we're

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going to be, uh, the back half of the season

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is going through passion week. Right. And there's

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so many times, like even next week, we're going

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to talk about Jesus going through and cleansing

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the temple. He's like, you missed the point,

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right? It's going to be a lot of, you missed

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the point. Yeah. You missed the point over and

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over and over again, uh, to the point that they

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get frustrated and they, they're like, well,

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maybe we'll just kill you. Yeah. You know? Well,

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and the combination of those two stories is you

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have the story of like, here's the show we're

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going to, we're going to keep you quote unquote

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clean, uh, free from mess. And then Jesus goes

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to the temple and he's like, what the flip are

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you doing? Yeah. Right. Literally. And then flip

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stables. And I do, I'm like, I don't want to

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under, understate how, I think sometimes like

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we hear it and we just don't necessarily think

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about how revolutionary, like the way that Jesus

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tells us conquering actually happens because

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he goes in on a cult. So Romans come in chariots.

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you know, loud noises, singers, you know, whatever

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you want to call it. Right. It's, it's loud.

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It's bombastic. And he's coming in on a cult

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and he's weeping because he recognizes that they're

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missing the point. It's a lot of like humbleness

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that he's, he's coming to bring peace. Like not,

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it's going to be not that many days later. He's

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going to be walking out, carrying a cross. So

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he comes in humble and he leaves in one of the

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most humiliating ways possible. Right. Literally

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carrying a cross. Like, And this is how the world

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is conquered. Like, I don't think we can understate

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how, how weird the way that God's kingdom actually

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works is that when we say upside down kingdom,

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we really mean upside upside down. His coronation

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event is a crucifixion. it's, it's strange. He

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says to conquer the world, you have to lay your

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life down. You have to be willing to pick up

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your cross and follow after him. Yeah. Right.

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You gotta be well, and that's not just die because

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you're, you're, you're a diehard. It means because

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you're willing to lay down your life to protect,

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to liberate, to lift people up, to bring the

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kingdom of God into the midst of other people

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so that people are able to engage with who God

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is. That's the kind of thing that actually conquers

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the world. Yeah. And we say that, but it's not

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actually bred into the... It feels like it's

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one of the things that's missing in the fiber

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of the Christian church. That we actually exist

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to lay ourselves down for other people. To disciple

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other people. Well, a lot of Christian church

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talk today talks about... is still, still kind

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of leans towards that. This is what you receive.

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This is what you get. Right. But then it's, what

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do you do with what you get? Like, as you were

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following Jesus, you are going to inherently

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become more like him. Right. As you're leaning

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into that relationship with God and you're inherently

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going to start seeing the world the way God sees

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the world and living the way God wants, wants

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you to live. It's a natural progression and we

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often treat it like a checklist, but we often,

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we often like, uh, we often say those prayers

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like, Oh Lord, thank you for everything you've

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done for me and all that I've gotten out of it.

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And then we kind of leave it at that. And then

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we forget to add in the, put people in my place

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so I can put people in front of me that I can

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share you with or something like that. Right.

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Right. Because it goes hand in hand. We receive

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so we can give, we don't just receive so we can

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keep it to ourselves. I mean, I think Jesus talked

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about this a few. few chapters ago about something,

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something about like a light on a hill or something

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like that. Well, and, and even going all the

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way back to Genesis 12, you have been blessed

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so that all nations would be blessed. Right?

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So you have been like, God has done something

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in your favor so that through you, all the people

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around you receive the blessing of God. Right.

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And, uh, and so what does that, what does that

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actually look like? You know? And, and, um, I,

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I wrote down this quote because I thought it

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was great. Um, sometimes divine truth comes dressed

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like a street protest and street poetry at once.

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You know, I was like, uh, it just, it's down

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and it's dirty and it's in your face, you know?

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Um, one of the, one of the things that we have

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to not be afraid of, uh, which Jesus definitely

00:24:06.490 --> 00:24:08.049
does cause we're, we've been talking about poop.

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So this is real discipleship, real fellowship

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in the kingdom of God is messy, right? It's going

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to be messy, uh, because we're taking broken

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people and helping them put their lives back

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together. We're introducing them to a King who

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can clean up their life, but like, there's a

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lot to clean up. Like cleaning, coming to Jesus

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with your garbage means that there's garbage

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that has to be cleaned up. Right. That's not

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a bad thing, but life is messy. Discipleship

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is like going into someone's house, someone who's

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made a lifestyle of pooping on the living room

00:24:38.869 --> 00:24:41.990
floor. Yes. And you being like, hey, I want to

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help you clean that up. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's

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what I mean. It's a really weird analogy for

00:24:48.549 --> 00:24:50.890
it, but that's what it is. Right. It's like when

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you are. bringing the gospel to people you're

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bringing you're bringing life to a place that

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is so dirty and messy and you're bringing you're

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bringing jesus who's the one who's like hey i

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see how much you've crapped in the living room

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yeah and i'm gonna help take care of that so

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there's a lot of things going on in this in this

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picture there's this image uh there's this juxtaposition

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of uh kingdom of god and rome and there is this

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juxtaposition of like um the people and what

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Jesus is doing. There's this old Testament connections.

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There's these, this pageantry of items. He's

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going to be coming in and confronting like the

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Jewish leaders. They're like, yeah, we're not

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a fan of what's going on right now. He's way

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too popular. Right. So they're going to try to

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bring him down a couple of pegs, which is going

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to lead to some very fun conversations. Um, but

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the, the overwhelming image. that we should be

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getting during this passion week that, that Jesus

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is driving home. And it's going to be, uh, in

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the conversations, it's going to be in, um, it's

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going to be in the debates. It's going to be

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in the crucifixion. It's going to be a resurrection.

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It's going to be in through all the, uh, through

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the trial is that the kingdom of God is coming

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to conquer, but not through coercion, but compassion,

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that, uh, passion, the compassion, I would even

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say of God that it's, he is coming to, it's coming

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to conquer, but not in, it looks very different

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than Rome. Yes. And this type of kingdom can't

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be stopped. No. Right. It goes all the way back

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to Genesis one, where you have, where you have

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the chaos waters in the dark. And the first thing

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God does is he brings his presence, which brings

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calm and he brings light to reveal what it is.

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Right. You have. you have that tie back over

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to that Matthew passage where Jesus is like,

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you're the light on top of a hill. When light

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is brought into a situation, it reveals what's

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broken. Right. Right. And then you have Jesus

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here weeping. Well, in a little, in a bit, he's

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going to be weeping because he realizes that

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there is a light that's coming, but they don't

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see it. Jesus is going to just a couple of chapters

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later in, in Matthew, he's actually going to

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go up and he's going to lament. And in, um, It's

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really interesting because they've been very

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much like, yeah, he's here and he's the best

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and blah, blah, blah. But in Matthew 23, he's

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going to say this, Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you

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who kill prophets and stone those sent to you.

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How often I have longed to gather your children

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together as a hen gathers her chicks under her

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wing. And you were not willing. Look, your house

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is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you

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will not see me again until you say, blessed

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is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Now,

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ironically. what's the thing that they said when

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he came in? Blessed is the one who came in the

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name of the Lord. Yeah. And, uh, and so like

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Jesus knows exactly what's going on here, but

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it's, uh, we, we may touch on the laments. I

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can't remember if that's in our, in our, in our

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notes, but we probably referenced them as we're

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going through either way. Um, but Jesus is coming

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in and I think that. The craziest thing about

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this is because you're talking about being light

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on a hill and coming back to the Sermon on the

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Mount. Jesus is literally going to a dark place

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to shine light. They're not going to appreciate

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it. In fact, they're going to kill him for it.

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But because of that, he's going to actually conquer

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the world, conquer sin, and light is going to

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continue to spread everywhere that he goes. Yeah.

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Right? He says, hey, you know, Jerusalem, you

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who stone prophets and kill those sent to help

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you. Yeah. I'm here. I've longed to gather you

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up. Yeah. Yeah. It's coming. Yeah. So this is

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the, this is the beginning until next time. I

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think the next, the next story we're going to,

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we're going to tackle the historically there's

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this conversation about doesn't happen twice.

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Doesn't happen once. It's the Jesus cleansing

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the temple. We're going to. approach this as

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it happening at the end of his ministry, because

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we're going to be referencing John. So if you

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want to read ahead, go look at Jesus cleansing

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the temple. Yep. Until next time. And that's

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a wrap for today's episode of Love and Context.

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