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Welcome to Season 3 of Love & Context. This season,

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we're exploring the life of Jesus step -by -step

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and uncovering what His story teaches us about

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loving God and others. Here on Love & Context,

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we're all about having real conversations about

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how to live out that love in practical, everyday

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ways, and understanding the Bible in its full

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context. We're so glad you're here. Let's dive

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into Season 3 of Love & Context. That's how Ben

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wants to start every podcast. Welcome to the

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Love and Context. Every week, guys. Podcast.

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Every week. Every week now. For now. Right. Until

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I get onto a kick for something else, right?

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Uh -huh. If this is your first time with us,

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that was probably the weirdest intro you've ever

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heard. Yeah. And the funny thing is, this comes

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after we do our little intro. It's like, season

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three welcomes you. And so then I do this. Yeah.

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Yeah. So we are in the life of Jesus. I'm Ben.

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I'm Spencer. And we're talking about life of

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Jesus. And we've been just going through some

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different stories. Last week, we had that fun

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conversation, which I was wondering when we were

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having it, how it was going to pace together.

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And then when I went and edited, I was like,

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oh, this is a good conversation about healing

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and what does it mean to engage the miraculous

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and the supernatural in your life with Jesus.

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And how do we do that as believers? This week,

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we're going to be stepping into, actually, it's

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going to be a two -week mini within series, because

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we're going to be talking about the Sermon on

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the Mountain. We broke it up into two weeks.

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Truthfully, I've done this at churches. You could

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probably split it up into 15 weeks, but we did

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try to cover the whole life of Jesus in one season,

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so we're going to have to combine some things

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at some point. I don't know if you know this.

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John wrote this in his book. He said that if

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we actually talked about everything Jesus said

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and did, there wouldn't be enough books to contain

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everything. So we're very much feeling like that

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sometimes when we skim a stone across and keep

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running. But Sermon on the Mount, there's also

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the Sermon on the Plain, which is going to be

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very similar in the book of Luke. We're going

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to choose to jump into the one in Matthew, simply

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because of the way that it's structured. But

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either one of those, like they're going to be

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very similar typed teachings, probably very similar

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package that Jesus like presented in different

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places in his ministry. So without further ado,

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ado, ado? Ado. I should actually look at his,

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I'm wondering what the ado means. I don't know.

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I should look it up at some point. Somebody look

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it up and send us an email. But without further

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ado, I know what it's supposed to mean, but we're

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going to jump into Matthew chapter 5. So we're

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going to read this in small sections, and then

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one of the things that I want to stress in the

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Sermon on the Mount is that everything you're

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about to read is part of one conversation. Yes.

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Sort of one narrative. And so we're going to

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talk about this beatitude, this introduction

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that Jesus gives. And then we're going to talk

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about salt and light. But it's coming out of,

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this is the beatitudes. And then we're going

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to talk about the fulfillment of the law, which

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is coming out of salt and light. Then you'll

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talk about murder, but it's in the context of

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what came before it. Because it's all one conversation.

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There is a book that I think is, I really enjoyed

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it. It does kind of a conversation in a section

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of it through the Sermon on the Mount. It's the

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Divine Conspiracy by Dallas Willard. And he has

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a really good conversation about how, as they're

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progressing, each of these things is actually

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starting to address different things in the human

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condition. And Jesus is going through and walking

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them through this progression of what does it

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mean to be a kingdom person. One of the first

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things about the Sermon on the Mount is, what

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is the purpose of the Sermon on the Mount? It's

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to reveal... The kingdom of God. This is like

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the crux of his message. The kingdom of God is

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here among you, and you can interact with it.

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Now let's talk about what that kingdom looks

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like. Yeah. All right. So let's go ahead and

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jump in. We're going to be in chapter 5 of Matthew,

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verses 1 through 20 today. Now when Jesus saw

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the crowds, he went up to the mountainside and

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sat down. His disciples came to him, and he began

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to teach them. Okay. Once again, remembering

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Jewish tradition. When you sit, that's when you

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teach. Yes. Right? All right. So first thing

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he says, Blessed are the poor in spirit, for

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theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are

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those who mourn, for they will be comforted.

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Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the

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earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst

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for righteousness, for they will be filled. I

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almost forgot the ness on the end of that. Hunger

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and thirst for righteous. Blessed are the merciful,

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for they will be shown mercy. Okay, let's pause

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there. So the first section is blessed are. Right?

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Blessed are the poor in spirit. Blessed are those

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who hunger and thirst. Blessed are. And it's

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this conversation of God is setting this precedent.

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One of the things I think is really might be

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a way to understand this is that the kingdom

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of heaven doesn't look like you think it does.

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The people who the world tends to exclude are

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actually the people who God is coming to address.

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Yeah. Right? This is going to be evidence later

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in Jesus' teaching where they'll be like, Like,

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what are you doing with sinners and prostitutes?

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He's like, it's the sick that need a doctor.

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You don't go to people who are well and be like,

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hey, do you need some crutches? Right? Yeah,

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and there's also a conversation in the Beatitudes

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about Jesus counteracting Roman ideology, which

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is sneaking into Jewish culture. Oh, 100%. Where

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if you look at what Beatitudes are saying, all

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the things that Jesus is saying is like, blessed

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are the... Blessed are the meek, right? Meekness

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was not a Roman attribute. Nope. Right? Or blessed

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are the poor, right? Rome was all about getting

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as rich as you could. Blessed are the humbles.

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Rome was all about being pride. Well, you think

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about blessed are the peacemakers. So with Caesar

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Augustus, you're going to have the Pax Romana.

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So going back to one of the episodes in the last

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season where we were talking about Caesar Augustus,

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there is this idea that you make peace through

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might. That's not what we're doing. So you have

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this blending of two cultures that's kind of

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happening because you've got Roman influence

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coming into Jewish influence, even though the

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Jewish people are supposed to be able to be autonomous

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with their religion. It took me a little bit

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to get that word out. And so Jesus is saying,

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no, no, no, let's come back to what it means

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to follow God. If you recall a few episodes back,

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we talked about the different five main responses

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to, let's just call it the Messianic era, the

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time between the Old Testament and the New Testament.

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There was Pharisaic, Sadducee, Zealots. There

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is the Essenes. But one of the other ones that

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we talked about is also the Herodians, right?

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And Herodian is largely like Herod. is the word

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in there. It's these people who, they are Jewish,

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yeah, but they've also kind of just appropriated

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Roman or Greek life, right? They've really just

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blended their stuff, and Judaism is, for lack

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of a better term, it's not just like a button

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that you put on their sash, like for the Boy

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Scouts. It is more significant than that, but

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it's basically that. It is. It's not necessarily,

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the life doesn't revolve around it. It revolves

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around a mixing of the two, which, by the way,

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is a great conversation for modern church. Right?

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When your faith becomes so intermingled with

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your ideology or the culture around you. Yeah.

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Yeah. I mean, just take... Take, for example,

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denominationalism for a little bit, right? Yep.

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You have people who are like, oh, I'm a follower

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of Jesus. You have other people who are like,

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I'm Pentecostal, or I'm Freemethist, or I'm Baptist,

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right? And it's like, okay, what are you saying

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about the other people when you make that comment?

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Right. Like, and, and it might not be a judgmental

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thing at first, but really what you're saying

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is you really have is showing this heart of like,

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Hey, I'm right. You're wrong. I have a cornerstone

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on righteousness. Yeah. And it's like, that's,

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that's actually not how the gospel. I also have

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a cornerstone on righteousness, but his name

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is Jesus. So, and you can also have him too.

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So, Oh, by the way, I was actually just looking

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here. So those of you on YouTube, you can see

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this shirt. One of the guys who listens on a

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regular basis, Dave, if you're watching, hello,

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Dave. This is one. of my shirts, and he was like,

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he's like, I wore it on Sunday, and he's like,

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that's the same shirt you wore on the podcast,

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and I'm wearing it again, and so I realized this

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was going to post two weeks in a row with me

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wearing the same shirt. I have other shirts.

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It just so happens that... The question is, did

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you wash it? No, listen, actually, no, here's

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the truth. I did not. My wife did, because my

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wife is incredible, and she takes care of me,

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because she's awesome, and I am capable of washing

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a shirt, but I swear that, like, okay. We're

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going here. I will take a shirt and I'll change

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shirts at night or whatever and I'll put it into

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the laundry hamper. By the time I come back to

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my room, and it can be an hour, it can be a half

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hour later, I swear it's gone and into the washing

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machine. I know that the washing machine was

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just full. How did she get it in there? That's

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my question. It's like the flash. I look away

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and suddenly it's taken care of. But I used to

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really focus on doing the laundry. And then we

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had a conversation. And Tara actually enjoys

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doing the laundry. And she enjoys folding clothes,

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which I, by the way, hate doing. But I do because

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I love her. And so sometimes she still asks me

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to jump in and fold clothes. But it's like her

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therapeutic routine. And then I go do the things

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that she doesn't like doing. You know, whenever

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there's like a spider and she's like, it needs

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to die. That's your job. And I said, okay, cool.

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I got that. I need you to get the things, like

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clean the things on the top shelf, right? Because

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I'm 6 '6", you know? It is, we worked out between

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the two of us how to partner in life, right?

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By the way, that was a random aside that it's

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not about gender roles specifically. It's about

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you and your partner figuring out what works

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for you. Yes. Yes. No, not one being valued over

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the other. Yes. All right. So Jesus is like is

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counteracting this. This message is talking differently

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from Rome because Rome is, you know, stand up,

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have pride, take control, you know. And Jesus

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is like, be kind, be humble, take care of the

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needy. Care for those. Thirst for right doing.

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Righteousness. Thirst for the things that actually

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put the world back together. Thirst for justice.

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This is the kind of people that are part of this

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kingdom. He's setting this preamble. The people

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who tend to interact with the kingdom of God

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are these types of people. There is a good conversation

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to have there. If these aren't characteristics

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of me ever, Am I actually living into the kingdom

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of God, or am I trying to co -opt the kingdom

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of God into what I want it to be? Yeah. Right?

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And the answer may be yes or no. That's a personal

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conversation. I think it's worth checking, right?

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Not to beat yourself up, but just to be like,

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man, am I representing Jesus well? Yeah. Like,

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am I actually representing his kingdom or what

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I think his kingdom should be? Yeah. So, but

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then he makes this turn, and it says, blessed

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are you. So who's he talking to at this point?

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Everyone. but specifically his disciples who've

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come up to listen to him. So at least the 12,

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if not the 72. There's people that travel with

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him all the time. So then he turns to them and

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he says, this is what it looks like to be part

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of the kingdom of God. And because you do these

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things, blessed are you when people insult you,

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persecute you, falsely say all kinds of evil

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against you because of me. Okay. Because of me

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is a big part of that sentence. Yes. You and

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I have known a number of people in our life,

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and there is more than once the story where people

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talk about, they're like, I'm being persecuted

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because of my faith. Sometimes true. Sometimes

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also, you were kind of a jerk there, and it kind

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of just backfired on you. I listened to a pastor

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tell a story one time where he was like, yeah,

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when I was pastoring and I was facing just...

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Horrible persecution. I was driving to the church

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one day, and the muffler on my car fell off,

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and the guy I was sitting next to in church was

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like, or you didn't take care of your car. I

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was having a discipleship conversation with somebody,

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and they were talking about, it was a political

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thing that was going on, and they said, I want

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to represent Jesus well. but I also feel like

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I need to be involved in this thing. And I said,

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okay, well, you can go and be involved in it,

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but make sure that you're representing Jesus

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and not you when you go. So you're behaving with

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kindness and gentleness and compassion with the

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people around you. Yes, you can speak truth and

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love, but make sure that when we're saying that,

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it's actually saturated in love, right? That

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you're not just throwing that on there as like,

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ah, I'm going to say hurtful things, but don't

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worry, I love you. Verbal abuse. And then I made

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this statement, and I've said it a couple of

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times. If you follow Jesus and live like Jesus

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and people get mad at you, that's expected. If

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people don't like Jesus because of you, that's

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sin. Because you're bearing up the name of God

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incorrectly, going back to the Exodus. But Jesus

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tells his disciples, he says, you're going to

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live this way, and you're living in a largely

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Roman, Jewish... Pride, shame, culture, all these

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different things are going to be going on here.

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They expect you to be strong and conquer and

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do all these things. And if you live this way,

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people are going to insult you. They're going

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to make fun of you. They're going to falsely

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say all kinds of evil about you because you're

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in their way. When that happens, you'll be blessed.

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Rejoice and be glad because great is your reward

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in heaven. Because the prophets endured the exact

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same thing. They said things people didn't want

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to hear. Because they didn't want people to go

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flying off a cliff. Yeah. Right? And I think

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that's encouraging. By the way, that doesn't

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also say that people will stop saying bad things

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about you. It just means in the middle of it,

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you're going to be blessed. Yeah. And the reality

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is sometimes we just take those bad things that

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people say about us way too personally and hold

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on to it way too long. Yeah. Right? If it's a

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bad thing that you know is not true, just let

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it go in one ear and out the other. As a good

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friend of mine would say, he's like, you don't

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grant landing permission to those thoughts. When

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that comes in, you're like, nope, you're going

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to keep flying. This is not the spot for you

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to land. I do think there is a problem when we

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let too many people speak into our life. I think

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that you need to build a relationship. Pastor

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Sarah said you can't correct without connection,

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right? If there's not connection between you

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and somebody else and it's not something that

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the Holy Spirit is revealing to you or somebody

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is using, like somebody who is connected to you

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talks about somebody else saying something and

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it connects with you, right? Like, you need to

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be really careful about applying it. You need

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to listen to the voice of God. You need to listen

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to the voice of wise counsel. And I was like,

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people who know nothing, okay. if you're on social

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media and you write something and some random

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McRandlesons write something about like, you

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don't represent Jesus. Well, I, I got news for

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you. Like their opinion means very little. Well,

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and yeah. And the thing about social media too,

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is when you're scrolling, a lot of times you

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are letting people speak into your life who you

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don't even know. True. Right? Like, you'll be

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scrolling through and you'll see a diet thing

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of being like, you should stop eating this right

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away. Do you like diet soda? Well, it's got all

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these chemicals. And then you'll get to a Christian

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one where it's like, you are not following Jesus

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if you're not doing that. And it's like you give

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headway to all of these people you don't even

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know who you have no relationship with, no connection

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with, and you're letting them speak into your

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life. Yeah. The reality is that's what scrolling

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reels for hours and hours does. And I'm saying

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that as us being people who post reels on a regular

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basis. We do. We do. And we're trying to encourage

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people to self -reflect, not necessarily. I actually

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have this thing that I reposted, and it's from

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a friend of mine. His name is Josh, and I'll

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leave his last name off because I don't know

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if he wants to be. Yeah, that's fine. Throw it

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on the podcast. But he posted a thing, and he

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does consulting for Christian ministries, and

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he posted things as signs that you've gotten

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into bad teaching. And so I would say this is

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signs that you're maybe listening to the wrong

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people. You start to think that the opinions

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of an entire people group don't matter. Right?

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At all. Not that they don't apply, but they don't

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matter. The teacher, podcaster, leader, etc.,

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is almost always trying to get you angry. If

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you're honest, you're beginning to think of a

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person or a group as less than human. You celebrate

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when harm comes to anyone. If any of those things

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are true, that's signs you're getting into bad

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teaching. Because that's not what Jesus teaches

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us to do. We're always about bringing life. We

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confront evil. We confront injustice. We stand

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against the forces of evil and we wage war against

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the devil and principalities. But we love people.

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And we always value people. Yes. You know? It's

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just problematic. Yeah. It was appropriate for

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what we're talking about. Because, you know,

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you go through these things and, like, immediately

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somebody, like, the first thing on social media,

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and I love this because we're talking podcast

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and we do social media posts. In fact, I might

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even clip this into a post. Right? But they'll

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come across a post that's like, are you believing

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heretical things? Right? Like, it's already.

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negative thing yeah rather than hey have you

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read this in the Bible and what it means to actually

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follow Jesus with X Y & Z but you know negative

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content tends to sell better it does right it

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does now This conversation, people are going

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to say all kinds of things about you. If you

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are somebody who is mournful, who sits with those

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who need to be comforted, if you have power but

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you hold it under control, that's what it means

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to be meek. You choose to hold your power under

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control and serve other people. You are a meek

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person, right? If you are pure in heart and you

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see God where he's working and those different

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things, people are going to have issues with

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you. And so the temptation with this might be

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to go and hide. inside of your churches to hide

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away from the world. Well, good news. We got

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another verse that comes up. You want to read

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the salt and light section? Yeah. You are the

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salt of the earth, but what good is salt if it

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lost its flavor? Can you make it salty again?

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It will be thrown and trampled underfoot as worthless.

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You are the light of the world, like a city on

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a hilltop that cannot be hidden. No one lights

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a lamp and then puts it under a basket. Instead,

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the lamp is placed on a stand where it gives

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light to everyone in the house. In the same way,

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let your good deeds shine for all to see, so

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that everyone will praise your Heavenly Father.

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Incidentally, if you guys are following along

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in your Bible, I'm reading NIV, he's reading

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NLT, because we think multiple translations is

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the right way to go. Mine's better, but you know,

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I'm going to clip that out and be like, so, um,

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so the temptation is like, people are going to

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say bad things about you. They're going to, they're

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going to make fun of you. They're going to lie

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about you. So, and you're like, okay, well we're

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just going to huddle up until, until Jesus comes

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back. No, like you, you are the salt of the,

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of the world, right? You are the light and salt

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of the world, right? You have to be out there.

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If you're not being salty. which is really funny

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because like being salty is like being, you know,

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like it's a, it's like being irritated kind of

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thing now, uh, or being kind of persnickety.

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Um, but I love to say we need to be salty. Yeah.

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Well, and I'm convinced Jesus is talking, clearly

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talking a little tongue in cheek here where he's

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like, you don't light a lamp and then hide it.

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Right. Right. He's like, then why would you light

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the lamp if you're going to do that? Right. Type

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thing. And, uh, But that's the reality. It's

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like we're supposed to put this stuff on display

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for the world to see, not for the sake of what

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we have done, but for the sake of what Jesus

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has done. And if you know anything about ancient

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cities, one, we have way more light than anybody

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has ever had light in any time in history ever.

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So we wouldn't necessarily understand if you

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put one light on a hill, that's not necessarily

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going to be lit up because we have so much light

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pollution in our world. But if you have a power

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outage, right? and then somebody lights a light

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randomly on a hill, and it's like, bam, you can

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see it. Yep. Right? In the ancient Near East,

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most of the cities are built on reservoirs of

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water or ability to accumulate water because

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the desert is really hot, and there's not water

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everywhere. And so they build them on top of

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these same locations, and over time, as each

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city is conquered, they kind of build on top

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of each other until it's actually a city on a

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hill. literally is salvation to you if you don't

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know where you are to see a city on a hill because

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you're like, I know where people are. I know

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where water is. I know where provision is. I

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know where I can go and not just be lost. I have

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seen some of the aerial drone footage of traveling

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through Israel even now and I would get lost

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super fast. I understand if you live in the culture,

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you could probably figure it out. I would get

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lost super fast. I would have GPS and it would

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be like, walk 400 miles this way. And I was like,

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okay. That's about too many miles. It's like,

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so when you ask the two things, what does salt

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do? What's salt do? Adds flavor. Right? It also

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preserves things. Yep. Preserves things. You

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ask what light does, it reveals what's hidden.

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Right? And so that of which is hidden can be

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dealt with. It's incredibly hard to clean your

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house if you don't have proper lighting. Because,

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well, you have dogs currently. Yes. And so if

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you don't have good lighting, like that dog hair

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gets everywhere and it's impossible to see. Because

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it'll get stuck underneath the couch, it'll get

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stuck on a sock, it'll get stuck underneath a

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table leg. And I was like, proper light actually

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reveals what needs to be done. Speaking of, well,

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you're always going to have hair. Dog hair will

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always be with you, to quote Deuteronomy. It's

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not Deuteronomy, really. But to your point, light

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reveals what needs to be taken care of. It's

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really easy to think that things are fine when

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it's completely dark. then you flip on the lights

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and you're like, uh, you ever, okay, this is

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actually, this is, this is going to connect with

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some people. You ever knock something over like

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a water bottle in the middle of the night and

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you're like, ah, it's probably not so bad. Then

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you turn on the light and there's water everywhere.

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And you're like, ah, I should have just left

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the light off. It wouldn't, I wouldn't have known.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's like that. Right. Yeah. And,

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uh, like, so the point of us is, is it's, it's

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all positive things. Light is about helping to

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clean up. It's about knowing where people are

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going. It's about being able to see your destination.

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Salt is about preservation. It's about flavor.

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It's about to bring out, if you want to say,

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bring out the flavor of the kingdom of God in

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the world. You're the salt of the world. You

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should be bringing out the flavor of the kingdom

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of God. When people engage you, they should go,

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man, God is good. It's quite different. Right.

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Right. They're like, oh, man, I was actually

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having a conversation with a with a friend of

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mine who is who is close to faith. And and they

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were talking about just I was interacting with

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them and they were talking about like just Christians

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that they had known and and like what they had

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known historically. And like they had known things

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about like with priests who had abused children

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and like all these, you know, all these different

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things. And and then we started to talk about

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the Bible. And about faith and what does it actually

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mean to live it out? What does Jesus call us

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to do to lay ourselves down on behalf of other

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people? And we go through those things. So it's

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been like five or six years. They started reading

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the Bible and they're starting to like follow

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after Jesus. But it's funny because I have the

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conversation. They're like, yeah, I kept I was

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judging faith by what I saw in people who didn't

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actually follow faith. Right. And then it was

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like, but having the conversation about like,

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what does it actually mean for me to live out

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living for Jesus? Not perfectly. brought out

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the flavor of who God really is, right? And that's

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our job. That's our job in relationship is to

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bring out who God is and reveal Christ. You know,

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talking about bringing on light. Revelation,

00:25:11.970 --> 00:25:17.829
right? Yeah, right. So then to this point, then

00:25:17.829 --> 00:25:22.509
he's going to jump up. He's going to say, in

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the same way, let your light shine before others.

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They're going to see your good deeds and glorify

00:25:27.990 --> 00:25:30.349
the Father in heaven. they're going to see the

00:25:30.349 --> 00:25:32.349
things that you do, and they're going to go,

00:25:32.549 --> 00:25:36.529
wow, God's awesome. Yeah. When we're truly living

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in the way Jesus calls us to live, right? Now,

00:25:40.490 --> 00:25:43.650
and like when we're truly living in a way where

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like, hey, this person needs help, I'm going

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to help them out. Or, hey, I'm sacrificing my

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time to... be here for someone who is mourning

00:25:51.430 --> 00:25:54.769
a loss or fill in the blank right when we're

00:25:54.769 --> 00:25:56.829
living that way people are gonna people will

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see someone who genuinely cares for other people

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and they'll be like this is great i want to know

00:26:02.430 --> 00:26:06.250
more about why they do this right at least i've

00:26:06.250 --> 00:26:08.769
at least i've yet to meet people who are like

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that person cares i should never spend time with

00:26:12.329 --> 00:26:14.839
them If you read some of the early church history

00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:18.059
reports by UCBS and some of the other early church

00:26:18.059 --> 00:26:21.079
historians, the Romans, one of the reasons that

00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:24.380
Christianity went through such an explosive growth

00:26:24.380 --> 00:26:26.960
is that Rome would persecute them, but the people

00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.440
around them were like, we don't want you to persecute

00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:32.259
these. These are great people. We love having

00:26:32.259 --> 00:26:35.339
them here. right? Like they do such good things

00:26:35.339 --> 00:26:39.720
for the places around us. I'm reminded of a pastor

00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:42.680
who was talking about his city. He had a burden

00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.759
for his city, right? Yes, for the gospel, but

00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:48.000
yes, for also like taking care of people. And

00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:50.039
they had a report and it said, named their city

00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:52.079
as like one of the 10 worst cities in America,

00:26:52.259 --> 00:26:55.039
right? And he brought it to their staff meeting

00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.819
and he put it out there and he says, is this

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our problem or is the fact that this isn't our

00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:06.269
problem, our problem? Yeah. Right? And I just

00:27:06.269 --> 00:27:08.509
love the way, like, is this our problem, or is

00:27:08.509 --> 00:27:09.910
the fact that this isn't our problem our problem?

00:27:10.690 --> 00:27:15.390
Years ago, there was a guy, he was a leader of

00:27:15.390 --> 00:27:20.710
one of the denominations in the U .S., and he

00:27:20.710 --> 00:27:23.750
got to a point where he was leading what they

00:27:23.750 --> 00:27:26.710
called a division, so just a large portion of

00:27:26.710 --> 00:27:30.450
the country. And so he's moving to this new city,

00:27:30.490 --> 00:27:33.289
and he gets a realtor to buy a house. And he

00:27:33.289 --> 00:27:36.630
looks at the realtor, and he says, hey, we want

00:27:36.630 --> 00:27:42.670
to move to a not desired neighborhood. A neighborhood

00:27:42.670 --> 00:27:46.970
that has some rougher characters, and that's

00:27:46.970 --> 00:27:49.109
where we want to buy a house. And the realtor

00:27:49.109 --> 00:27:52.450
started laughing. And he's like, what's so funny?

00:27:53.029 --> 00:27:55.569
And she's like, well, no, it was just a good

00:27:55.569 --> 00:27:58.440
joke. And he's like, I wasn't joking. Yeah. Like

00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:00.859
he's like, I want to be salt and light to the

00:28:00.859 --> 00:28:02.660
people who need it. And I want to share Jesus

00:28:02.660 --> 00:28:05.079
with the people who need it. And the realtor

00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:08.339
was like, okay, you know, so they bought a house

00:28:08.339 --> 00:28:10.819
and he's like, yeah, first thing we did is he's

00:28:10.819 --> 00:28:14.660
like, we just got to know the community and we'd

00:28:14.660 --> 00:28:17.019
have them over for barbecues and, you know, stuff

00:28:17.019 --> 00:28:20.190
like that. And, you know, and. And he's like,

00:28:20.250 --> 00:28:21.829
I got a lot of flack because people would come

00:28:21.829 --> 00:28:23.329
into my house and they'd be like, hey, you're

00:28:23.329 --> 00:28:25.630
leading a denomination and you have people coming

00:28:25.630 --> 00:28:27.849
into your house smoking and drinking. And he's

00:28:27.849 --> 00:28:30.009
like, yeah, they don't know Jesus. Yeah. And

00:28:30.009 --> 00:28:33.099
I'm sharing Jesus with them. And slowly that

00:28:33.099 --> 00:28:35.740
community transformed and more people came to

00:28:35.740 --> 00:28:38.740
know Jesus. They came to set down these bad habits

00:28:38.740 --> 00:28:40.759
and so on and so forth. Because one person was

00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:42.660
like, yeah, no, I don't need to be in an upstanding

00:28:42.660 --> 00:28:44.519
community where I can hide away from the problems

00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:47.240
of the town. It's an upcoming parable, but the

00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.279
parable of the mustard seed. It's like once it

00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.259
takes root, you can't stop it. Yep. But you have

00:28:52.259 --> 00:28:55.619
to go plant it. Yep. It is an invasive species.

00:28:55.859 --> 00:28:58.059
The gospel is an invasive species. If it takes

00:28:58.059 --> 00:29:00.900
root in your heart, it's coming for you. And

00:29:00.900 --> 00:29:03.319
that's not to say that, of course, people have

00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:04.680
free will and they're allowed to choose and blah,

00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.960
blah, blah, like 100%. Theological typewriters,

00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.420
go away. I'm saying that when God is coming after

00:29:11.420 --> 00:29:18.920
you, you're going to know him. Now, does everybody

00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.180
need to go move to the worst place in their city?

00:29:21.339 --> 00:29:22.980
No, that's not what we're talking about. But

00:29:22.980 --> 00:29:26.359
where you are, listener, podcaster, and us too,

00:29:26.539 --> 00:29:31.700
what are the issues in our city? What's the issues

00:29:31.700 --> 00:29:35.220
in our town, in our neighborhood? And how are

00:29:35.220 --> 00:29:37.400
we being intentional about bringing the kingdom

00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.420
of God there in act and then being able to do

00:29:41.420 --> 00:29:45.640
it in word? Right? And I think the tendency is

00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:47.099
like, oh, well, if I want to make some changes,

00:29:47.140 --> 00:29:49.119
maybe I'll just jump into politics. Maybe. That

00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:50.940
might be where God's calling you. Yeah. Into

00:29:50.940 --> 00:29:54.519
local politics. But I would suggest that politics

00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:56.440
is the least effective way to actually change

00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.859
people's life. Agreed. The most effective way

00:29:59.859 --> 00:30:01.940
to change your life is to get involved with them.

00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.400
Yeah. And actually go and do things that are

00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:06.400
going to make a difference. And just... Just

00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:08.579
caveat on the politics thing, just real quick,

00:30:08.740 --> 00:30:11.640
and then we can move on. We've lived through

00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:14.279
Democratic regimes, and we've lived through Republican

00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:17.339
regimes, and guess what? We're doing just fine

00:30:17.339 --> 00:30:19.740
through both. After all of those things, God

00:30:19.740 --> 00:30:21.359
is still king. Yeah, he's still king. It's crazy.

00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:23.700
And the reality is, do you know how much it affected

00:30:23.700 --> 00:30:26.700
my day -to -day life? Not that much. Not that

00:30:26.700 --> 00:30:29.200
much. We get hung up on stuff politically when

00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:31.500
it's like, hey, maybe we should, I mean, yeah,

00:30:31.539 --> 00:30:33.460
take note of what's really important, but maybe

00:30:33.460 --> 00:30:35.640
we should. redirect some of that energy into

00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:38.299
bringing Jesus to our community. Yeah. Yeah.

00:30:39.339 --> 00:30:41.539
Paul did it during the reign of Domitian. Yeah.

00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:44.819
I feel like we could probably figure it out.

00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:48.339
Yeah. You know? Yep. Great. All right. So coming

00:30:48.339 --> 00:30:49.700
out of this conversation, you're going to do

00:30:49.700 --> 00:30:51.539
good deeds and people are going to see it and

00:30:51.539 --> 00:30:54.920
they're going to glorify Jesus. Don't think that

00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:57.799
I came to abolish the law or the prophets. This

00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:00.440
is in context, right? I have not come to abolish

00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.079
them, but to fulfill them. So, he just said you're

00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.500
going to do good deeds. That doesn't mean you're

00:31:06.500 --> 00:31:08.299
going to abolish Torah. In fact, Torah is going

00:31:08.299 --> 00:31:11.819
to be the deeds that you do. Right? He didn't

00:31:11.819 --> 00:31:13.500
come to do away with them. He came to put them

00:31:13.500 --> 00:31:16.160
on display. To be really clear, this is a Jewish

00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:18.980
teacher talking to Jewish people. Correct. Yeah,

00:31:19.019 --> 00:31:20.920
because we can talk about the book of Galatians

00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:22.420
some other time. There are things in the Torah

00:31:22.420 --> 00:31:25.079
that do not apply to Gentiles. There are, of

00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.900
course, many things in Torah that do. But there

00:31:27.900 --> 00:31:30.059
are things specifically about Jewish people that

00:31:30.059 --> 00:31:32.579
apply to them. But he says, I didn't come to

00:31:32.579 --> 00:31:35.240
abolish this. Nope. I came to put it on display.

00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:37.799
John 1 .1 is going to say the word became flesh

00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.200
and made his dwelling among us, right? Yeah.

00:31:40.259 --> 00:31:43.940
And so Jesus is literally Torah made flesh, and

00:31:43.940 --> 00:31:48.279
so he is the law, and he is physically there.

00:31:48.420 --> 00:31:50.759
He is what the law and the prophets are supposed

00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:53.339
to look like. And when you tie this verse into

00:31:53.339 --> 00:31:55.799
the larger context of Scripture, what you get

00:31:55.799 --> 00:32:01.399
is Jesus saying, hey, we have... misunderstood

00:32:01.399 --> 00:32:03.859
what Torah is actually supposed to be. Correct.

00:32:04.539 --> 00:32:07.059
It was always supposed to be about this Genesis

00:32:07.059 --> 00:32:12.099
12, blessing all nations. So he says, don't think

00:32:12.099 --> 00:32:13.500
that I've come to abolish the law and the prophets.

00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:14.900
I've not come to abolish them, but to fulfill

00:32:14.900 --> 00:32:17.500
them. Fulfill does not mean one and done. Put

00:32:17.500 --> 00:32:19.000
them on display for how they're supposed to be

00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.450
lived. Right? For truly I tell you, until heaven

00:32:22.450 --> 00:32:24.769
and earth disappear, not the smallest letter,

00:32:24.890 --> 00:32:27.849
not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means

00:32:27.849 --> 00:32:30.130
disappear from the law until everything is accomplished.

00:32:30.589 --> 00:32:32.529
Therefore, anyone who sets aside one of the least

00:32:32.529 --> 00:32:35.289
of these commands and teaches others accordingly

00:32:35.289 --> 00:32:37.190
will be called least in the kingdom of heaven.

00:32:37.269 --> 00:32:38.910
But whoever practices and teaches these commands

00:32:38.910 --> 00:32:40.490
will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

00:32:40.569 --> 00:32:42.950
For I tell you that unless your righteousness,

00:32:43.329 --> 00:32:46.309
your righteous acts, surpasses that of the Pharisees

00:32:46.309 --> 00:32:47.910
and the teachers of the law, you certainly will

00:32:47.910 --> 00:32:51.319
not enter the kingdom of heaven. Now, interesting

00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.339
thing about that with the confrontation of the

00:32:53.339 --> 00:32:55.319
Pharisees and the teachers of the law is that

00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:57.119
they had a lot of head knowledge and not a lot

00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:59.200
of due knowledge. So when we're talking about

00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:00.599
the righteousness, it's actually what you do

00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:03.960
with what you know. So if you don't surpass them,

00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:05.839
I guarantee you, you're not living about the

00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.339
kingdom of heaven. But what were they doing?

00:33:08.539 --> 00:33:10.740
Yeah, right? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What

00:33:10.740 --> 00:33:16.259
were they doing? But this is, I think it's really

00:33:16.259 --> 00:33:18.319
interesting because this verse, a lot of times

00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.900
people say, well, Jesus came not to abolish the

00:33:20.900 --> 00:33:22.200
law but to fulfill it, which means that it's

00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:23.900
done, means it no longer applies. That's not

00:33:23.900 --> 00:33:26.039
what that means. No. He says it's not going away

00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:27.940
until heaven and earth disappear. By the way,

00:33:27.980 --> 00:33:29.880
I don't know if you know this, heaven's not disappearing

00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:35.299
ever. Uh -huh. So you may want to reinterpret

00:33:35.299 --> 00:33:38.059
that a little bit, right, until all these things

00:33:38.059 --> 00:33:39.839
are accomplished. And we could get into the Greek

00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.180
and get into the, but the context here is that

00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:46.240
The instructions that God's given you, the Torah,

00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:48.240
how you're supposed to live your life, how you're

00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:49.519
supposed to be a blessing to other people, you're

00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:51.640
supposed to bless all nations. Put these things

00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:54.960
on display in your life to live for God. Like,

00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:56.700
these things aren't going away. You need to do

00:33:56.700 --> 00:34:00.059
them. And you need to put them on display. Jesus

00:34:00.059 --> 00:34:02.500
is going to do it. Yeah. If you're going to follow

00:34:02.500 --> 00:34:04.279
after Jesus, you need to do that. Now, of course,

00:34:04.339 --> 00:34:06.759
broader context, we are Gentiles. We don't follow

00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:11.469
what's called Helica, right? We can have a broader

00:34:11.469 --> 00:34:13.230
conversation about that later. We've had some

00:34:13.230 --> 00:34:17.829
conversations about it. But what Jesus is calling

00:34:17.829 --> 00:34:20.090
us to do is he says the things that God calls

00:34:20.090 --> 00:34:21.949
you to for righteousness, to impact the world,

00:34:21.989 --> 00:34:24.889
to love people, love God, to bring mercy, to

00:34:24.889 --> 00:34:28.150
be generous, to put the kingdom of God on display,

00:34:28.349 --> 00:34:30.510
to have a meek heart, like all these different

00:34:30.510 --> 00:34:34.070
things, these aren't going away. Don't do away

00:34:34.070 --> 00:34:37.409
with them. Go do it. This teaching isn't doing

00:34:37.409 --> 00:34:39.449
away with that. It's actually fulfilling this.

00:34:40.109 --> 00:34:42.809
Right? Yep. Being salt and light is not going

00:34:42.809 --> 00:34:44.690
to abolish this. You need to fulfill it in the

00:34:44.690 --> 00:34:47.150
way that you live. Yep. When we're talking about

00:34:47.150 --> 00:34:50.769
fulfilling it, like you hinted at this too, but

00:34:50.769 --> 00:34:53.250
a lot of times we get caught up on, okay, what

00:34:53.250 --> 00:34:55.730
are the things I need to do? You need to be in

00:34:55.730 --> 00:34:57.869
relationship with Jesus. Yeah. And let your good

00:34:57.869 --> 00:35:01.510
works flow from that. Correct. Right? Yeah. James

00:35:01.510 --> 00:35:06.190
talks about this, too, in James 2, where he's

00:35:06.190 --> 00:35:09.090
like, okay, you say you have your faith, but

00:35:09.090 --> 00:35:13.130
you show your faith by your works. Right. And

00:35:13.130 --> 00:35:17.130
we've often interpreted that as like, okay, because

00:35:17.130 --> 00:35:19.349
I believe in Jesus, here are all the things I've

00:35:19.349 --> 00:35:21.690
got to do now. It's like, no. You need to have

00:35:21.690 --> 00:35:24.570
a relationship with Jesus, and Jesus is going

00:35:24.570 --> 00:35:26.869
to change your heart, and good works are naturally

00:35:26.869 --> 00:35:28.570
going to flow from that. Yeah. It's going to

00:35:28.570 --> 00:35:30.900
be the fruit. It's going to be the fruit of your

00:35:30.900 --> 00:35:32.980
relationship with Jesus. I'm going to borrow

00:35:32.980 --> 00:35:35.519
a story from later in the Gospels. Jesus says,

00:35:35.659 --> 00:35:37.000
I am the true vine and you are the branches.

00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.760
If you remain in me, you will bear fruit. There's

00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:43.500
no if and but. Yeah. Right? If you don't remain

00:35:43.500 --> 00:35:47.000
in me, you're going to wither and die. You're

00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:47.940
not going to bear fruit, and you're going to

00:35:47.940 --> 00:35:51.739
get cut off. The job for us is not to produce

00:35:51.739 --> 00:35:54.260
the fruit. Our job is to remain, abide, be with.

00:35:54.500 --> 00:35:58.480
And if you do, you will produce. So why do we

00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:00.739
have this conversation? If your life has no fruit,

00:36:00.980 --> 00:36:02.719
we want to have a conversation about Jesus, because

00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.360
if you know Jesus, you will have fruit. Now,

00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:09.360
it might be piddly fruit. It might be really

00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:11.820
not great fruit because you're not well -connected,

00:36:11.820 --> 00:36:13.880
or you need to be lifted up, which is another

00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:17.090
thing that happens in that verse. But if you

00:36:17.090 --> 00:36:19.369
connect to Jesus, you will have fruit. And you

00:36:19.369 --> 00:36:21.889
also need to define what does good fruit look

00:36:21.889 --> 00:36:25.409
like. Right. Because a lot of times, unfortunately

00:36:25.409 --> 00:36:27.429
in the American context, a lot of times we classify

00:36:27.429 --> 00:36:30.329
good fruit as like how big is your congregation.

00:36:30.630 --> 00:36:34.869
Or how in line is your theology. Yeah. Right?

00:36:35.010 --> 00:36:37.090
Talk about denominationalism, right? And the

00:36:37.090 --> 00:36:43.150
reality is most rabbis outside of Jesus had three

00:36:43.150 --> 00:36:47.309
to five disciples. They said, okay, that's what

00:36:47.309 --> 00:36:50.030
I can do. I can invest in three to five people.

00:36:51.230 --> 00:36:55.449
So that's reality. And it could be that you're

00:36:55.449 --> 00:36:57.809
investing in someone and their life does a 180.

00:36:58.469 --> 00:37:03.809
That is substantial fruit. That's substantial

00:37:03.809 --> 00:37:05.710
fruit because you could also be investing in

00:37:05.710 --> 00:37:07.630
100 people and nobody's life's getting changed.

00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:11.599
Yeah, and I think this is where sometimes, like,

00:37:11.619 --> 00:37:13.719
this is where Paul can be incredibly helpful

00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.079
for our Roman mind is what I'm going to call

00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:18.360
it. Yeah. He talks about in Galatians, he says,

00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:20.159
the fruit of the Spirit is obvious. It's love.

00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:24.559
Demonstrated in joy, peace, patience, kindness,

00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:26.480
goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self -control.

00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:30.320
These types of things, when they start to blossom

00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:33.280
in your life, are evidence that God is actually

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working in your life. Like, you are connected

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to the tree. Yeah. Like, if you are connected

00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.699
to the tree, you're going to have patience, or

00:37:42.699 --> 00:37:44.320
at least you're going to recognize that you're

00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.079
being really impatient and want to grow your

00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.619
patience. Uh -huh. Right? Yeah, you're gonna,

00:37:48.699 --> 00:37:51.239
like, the Lord will, if you are falling short

00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:53.579
in an area, the Lord will be like, hey, he'll

00:37:53.579 --> 00:37:55.940
knock on the door and be like, hey, maybe we

00:37:55.940 --> 00:37:58.500
should work on this. Yeah. Right? They'll be

00:37:58.500 --> 00:38:00.639
like, what do we need to do to correct this?

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So this first part, and this is really the preamble

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because we're going to be jumping off of this

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into next week's. So he said, this is who I'm

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coming to talk to. These are the people that

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are being ushered into the kingdom of God. And

00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:17.639
when you do these things, you're going to be

00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:19.059
talked about a certain way, but that's okay.

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You're going to be blessed in the middle of that.

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I'm going to be with you. And then he says, that

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also means you can't hide. You've got to go out

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there and be. the salt gotta be the light put

00:38:28.769 --> 00:38:30.829
on your good deeds so that people glorify god

00:38:30.829 --> 00:38:33.630
that they see the kingdom of god in you if you

00:38:33.630 --> 00:38:35.670
have the kingdom of god in you by the way holy

00:38:35.670 --> 00:38:37.809
spirit is inside of all of us that follow jesus

00:38:37.809 --> 00:38:40.570
you need to take it to the places that need the

00:38:40.570 --> 00:38:43.539
holy spirit yeah right Take him, sorry, not it.

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And then he says, I didn't come to abolish the

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law, I came to fulfill it. In other words, everything

00:38:49.059 --> 00:38:51.699
that is in the Torah is actually meant to be

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lived out. And that's really important because

00:38:53.619 --> 00:38:56.320
as we pause here, he's then going to start going

00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:58.059
through a bunch of things in Torah that they've

00:38:58.059 --> 00:39:00.900
misunderstood. He says, I didn't come to get

00:39:00.900 --> 00:39:03.360
rid of this. I came to show you what it was always

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supposed to be. So he's going to make these phrases.

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He says, you have heard it said, but I say unto

00:39:07.820 --> 00:39:10.909
you. So this is the springboard, and next week

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we're going to be going into a lot of these portions

00:39:12.429 --> 00:39:15.369
of Torah. The first one is talking about murder,

00:39:15.510 --> 00:39:18.250
right? You've heard it said, but I'm going to

00:39:18.250 --> 00:39:21.929
say unto you. And he's going to start reinterpreting,

00:39:21.929 --> 00:39:25.349
and so what that means is not, Jesus is not raising

00:39:25.349 --> 00:39:27.789
the ante on these things. That's something I've

00:39:27.789 --> 00:39:30.349
heard people say. He said, this is always what

00:39:30.349 --> 00:39:33.429
it was supposed to be. Now let's talk about what

00:39:33.429 --> 00:39:38.860
that means to live out. Right? Until the next

00:39:38.860 --> 00:39:42.599
week. You can reach us at loveandcontext .gmail

00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:45.480
.com. Oh, yeah. You can comment all sorts of

00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:47.840
weird things on TikTok. Once again, remember

00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:50.500
that if you engage us disingenuously, I'll probably

00:39:50.500 --> 00:39:52.219
give you a lovely comment like, thanks for boosting

00:39:52.219 --> 00:39:55.840
our algorithm. Because I love you, but I'm also

00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:58.280
not going to engage with your nonsense. Unless

00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:00.239
it's in person. I love engaging nonsense in person.

00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:05.340
We love genuine conversation. Oh, yeah. Ben and

00:40:05.340 --> 00:40:08.420
I absolutely love genuine conversation. That's

00:40:08.420 --> 00:40:10.949
not... often what is found in the comment section.

00:40:11.130 --> 00:40:15.510
I know it's not real. No, it is not. So if you,

00:40:15.510 --> 00:40:17.570
if you like have a genuine question, I would

00:40:17.570 --> 00:40:19.309
suggest emailing me because I probably won't

00:40:19.309 --> 00:40:22.210
even see it if you don't email it. Yep. Um, and,

00:40:22.210 --> 00:40:23.869
uh, but we're going to, I don't look at the comments

00:40:23.869 --> 00:40:26.090
at all. Yeah. I see them sometimes, like sometimes

00:40:26.090 --> 00:40:28.250
it'll notify me and I'll read them. And, uh,

00:40:28.250 --> 00:40:30.769
and I'm like, if it, if, if it was a sincere

00:40:30.769 --> 00:40:32.429
thing, I'm sorry. Sometimes I laugh at them.

00:40:32.690 --> 00:40:34.809
Um, because I'm like, that is a really weird.

00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:39.159
thing to say to somebody you don't know. Um,

00:40:39.340 --> 00:40:42.420
the other thing is, uh, very soon, as soon as,

00:40:42.420 --> 00:40:45.559
uh, Mr. Spencer finishes doing the, uh, audio

00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:48.360
book version, we will be releasing our book on

00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:50.440
the Genesis, uh, from our podcast conversations.

00:40:50.900 --> 00:40:53.940
I'm about halfway through on Exodus. And so that'll

00:40:53.940 --> 00:40:55.960
be coming in about another six months to seven

00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:59.019
months. Um, but, uh, if you were like, man, I

00:40:59.019 --> 00:41:00.420
really like these conversations. I want to check

00:41:00.420 --> 00:41:01.619
it out in book form. And then we're going to

00:41:01.619 --> 00:41:03.380
have an audio book that's based on the book that's

00:41:03.380 --> 00:41:08.199
based on the. We're real inceptioning this. It's

00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:11.059
like fashion trends. They just go full circle

00:41:11.059 --> 00:41:13.960
every about 20 years. And then what we need to

00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:15.519
do is we need to get a different group of people

00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:18.760
to have a podcast about the book. Yeah. My wife

00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:23.019
and I, we work in the school district. And we've

00:41:23.019 --> 00:41:25.139
been laughing this last year because the stuff

00:41:25.139 --> 00:41:27.139
we see kids wear, we're like, oh, we're back

00:41:27.139 --> 00:41:31.380
in high school. Yeah. Like, this is what we wore

00:41:31.380 --> 00:41:34.320
20 years ago. Yeah, that's so funny. I mean,

00:41:34.340 --> 00:41:37.860
fashion is a cyclical. Yeah, it is. So that's

00:41:37.860 --> 00:41:42.039
going to be coming out. And my book is out, Beautiful

00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:44.340
Chaos. It's on Amazon. You can get it there.

00:41:44.820 --> 00:41:46.320
Audiobook is also available, but you have to

00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:47.900
listen to me. So if you don't like listening

00:41:47.900 --> 00:41:49.500
to me, don't get the audiobook. Just read the

00:41:49.500 --> 00:41:52.820
book. But, yeah, so things are going well. And

00:41:52.820 --> 00:41:56.380
I do want to give a shout -out to, when the book

00:41:56.380 --> 00:41:59.340
does come out, the Genesis book, all proceeds

00:41:59.340 --> 00:42:03.099
are going to local Young Life Ministry. So if

00:42:03.099 --> 00:42:04.260
you want to support Young Life, that's a good

00:42:04.260 --> 00:42:06.010
way to do it. Yep. All right. Other than that,

00:42:06.030 --> 00:42:09.820
we'll see you guys next time. And that's a wrap

00:42:09.820 --> 00:42:12.519
for today's episode of Love and Context. We hope

00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:14.639
this conversation encouraged you and gave you

00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.059
fresh insights into how we can better love God

00:42:17.059 --> 00:42:19.139
and others through the powerful truths of the

00:42:19.139 --> 00:42:21.539
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