WEBVTT 00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:06.019 Welcome to Season 3 of Love & Context. This season, 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:08.640 we're exploring the life of Jesus step -by -step 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:11.140 and uncovering what His story teaches us about 00:00:11.140 --> 00:00:13.919 loving God and others. Here on Love & Context, 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:16.059 we're all about having real conversations about 00:00:16.059 --> 00:00:18.140 how to live out that love in practical, everyday 00:00:18.140 --> 00:00:20.199 ways, and understanding the Bible in its full 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:22.839 context. We're so glad you're here. Let's dive 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:28.519 into Season 3 of Love & Context. Welcome back 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:32.380 to the Love in Context podcast. Here we go. It's 00:00:32.380 --> 00:00:36.140 the Love in Context podcast. Podcast. Podcast. 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:40.299 Podcast. So it's trademark pending. Trademark 00:00:40.299 --> 00:00:44.880 pending. Any similarity to a song? You may not 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:47.060 sing that or disseminate it in any shape, way, 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:50.500 or form. Any similarity to real songs, either 00:00:50.500 --> 00:00:55.340 in fiction or nonfiction, is purely circumstantial. 00:00:55.340 --> 00:00:58.420 It's not on purpose. I thought I was randomly 00:00:58.420 --> 00:00:59.920 selecting notes. It's always possible that I 00:00:59.920 --> 00:01:01.799 was not, though. There's nothing original to 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:04.319 some music -wise nowadays. No. Actually, there 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:09.209 was a... um this is just dynamite uh intro for 00:01:09.209 --> 00:01:10.890 our listeners by the way welcome back to the 00:01:10.890 --> 00:01:12.769 love and context podcast i'm ben that's spencer 00:01:12.769 --> 00:01:14.810 and we're going to talk about copyright law yeah 00:01:14.810 --> 00:01:18.269 um yeah ed sheeran recently went in because he 00:01:18.269 --> 00:01:20.090 was getting sued over a chord progression yeah 00:01:20.090 --> 00:01:23.269 and uh and which is by the way just an absurd 00:01:23.269 --> 00:01:25.890 um if you're a musician at all anybody listening 00:01:25.890 --> 00:01:29.329 who is a musician um that's an absurd lawsuit 00:01:29.329 --> 00:01:32.530 because almost every song Uses the same chord 00:01:32.530 --> 00:01:34.709 progression in different rhythms, in different 00:01:34.709 --> 00:01:36.469 formats, sure, but it's the same chord progression. 00:01:36.629 --> 00:01:39.370 So one of his defense things, he went in for, 00:01:39.510 --> 00:01:41.769 I think it was like grand jury or wherever you 00:01:41.769 --> 00:01:44.290 meet with the judge beforehand to see if there's 00:01:44.290 --> 00:01:46.650 merit for the case. And he took his guitar and 00:01:46.650 --> 00:01:48.750 he went for like 12 minutes straight and he played 00:01:48.750 --> 00:01:51.849 like 78 different classic rock songs using the 00:01:51.849 --> 00:01:53.829 same progression in a row right in front of him. 00:01:54.530 --> 00:01:57.409 And they threw out the case. And I was like, 00:01:57.469 --> 00:01:58.569 well, that's a pretty good way to make that. 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:02.280 And to his defense, he was like, if you literally, 00:02:02.379 --> 00:02:04.599 if you enforce this thing, then I'm just going 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:05.760 to stop making music because it's pointless. 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:11.099 Mm -hmm. Right? Mm -hmm. So it is crazy the things 00:02:11.099 --> 00:02:13.560 that people sue over. Oh, yeah. I mean, you'd 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:15.620 think that they were, I don't know. I don't have 00:02:15.620 --> 00:02:18.439 any actually good follow -up for that. No, I 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:20.539 mean, the things people sue over is insane, and 00:02:20.539 --> 00:02:22.520 that could be a whole other podcast episode. 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:25.740 Mm -hmm. Random lawsuits. I don't think it's 00:02:25.740 --> 00:02:30.009 our. would fit our, you know, bread and butter 00:02:30.009 --> 00:02:32.050 of what we're doing. So I want you to put a pin 00:02:32.050 --> 00:02:34.229 in the thought of lawsuits because eventually 00:02:34.229 --> 00:02:36.389 we're going to be getting to the Sermon on the 00:02:36.389 --> 00:02:38.430 Mount and in the middle, I think it's in the 00:02:38.430 --> 00:02:39.689 Sermon on the Mount where he's going to be talking 00:02:39.689 --> 00:02:41.870 about if somebody slaps you in the right cheek. 00:02:42.030 --> 00:02:44.189 Yep. And so we'll talk about it there because 00:02:44.189 --> 00:02:45.810 there's actually, there is some actually good 00:02:45.810 --> 00:02:47.969 applications to lawsuits there. Yeah. So, but 00:02:47.969 --> 00:02:50.590 that's not where we are today. Today, we're actually 00:02:50.590 --> 00:02:55.770 going to be in Luke 4 predominantly and this 00:02:55.770 --> 00:02:57.900 is, taking place. So remember, we're harmonizing 00:02:57.900 --> 00:02:59.780 the Gospels for people. We're walking through 00:02:59.780 --> 00:03:02.099 the life of Jesus. Last week we talked about... 00:03:03.009 --> 00:03:05.590 The Samaritan woman at the well. Well, technically 00:03:05.590 --> 00:03:08.009 it was like four weeks ago, but it's also the 00:03:08.009 --> 00:03:10.509 summer, so if you are upset that we didn't release 00:03:10.509 --> 00:03:12.349 anything, I don't know what to tell you. We were 00:03:12.349 --> 00:03:14.509 enjoying the sun. Actually, if you can see Spencer's 00:03:14.509 --> 00:03:16.889 face on YouTube, it's a little redder than normal 00:03:16.889 --> 00:03:20.550 because he got some sun. Oh, yeah. I got a bunch 00:03:20.550 --> 00:03:22.789 of sun, and then I stayed inside for a couple 00:03:22.789 --> 00:03:24.469 of days, and I turned right back to super white. 00:03:24.909 --> 00:03:28.870 Yeah, yeah. If you have ever lived a summer in 00:03:28.870 --> 00:03:31.569 Alaska, you will know exactly what we're talking 00:03:31.569 --> 00:03:34.240 about. of how the sun comes out, and you get 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:35.800 the long days, and you're like, I have to make 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:39.479 the most of it. And yeah, so that's all there 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:41.639 is to it. So with that being said, we're a little 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:43.379 bit out of chronological order. There's some 00:03:43.379 --> 00:03:45.620 conversation about that, and we don't care. So 00:03:45.620 --> 00:03:47.699 if it really bothers you, I'm sorry. Just listen 00:03:47.699 --> 00:03:50.020 to them in a different order. It'll solve itself. 00:03:50.219 --> 00:03:52.400 But this is going to take place right after Jesus 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:55.020 in the wilderness with the devil in chapter 4 00:03:55.020 --> 00:03:56.699 of Luke. I'm just going to read this story here, 00:03:56.759 --> 00:03:57.819 and we're going to have a conversation about 00:03:57.819 --> 00:04:01.060 it. So Jesus returned to Galilee in the power 00:04:01.060 --> 00:04:03.659 of the Spirit. and news about him spread throughout 00:04:03.659 --> 00:04:05.680 the whole countryside. He was teaching in their 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:07.919 synagogues, and everyone praised him. He went 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:10.060 to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and 00:04:10.060 --> 00:04:12.539 on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:15.319 as was his custom. He stood up to read, and the 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:17.100 scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. 00:04:17.180 --> 00:04:18.759 Unrolling it, he found it in the place where 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:21.079 it is written, The Spirit of the Lord is on me, 00:04:21.139 --> 00:04:24.060 because he has anointed me to proclaim good news 00:04:24.060 --> 00:04:26.240 to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:28.300 for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the 00:04:28.300 --> 00:04:31.560 blind. to set the oppressed free, to proclaim 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:34.199 the year of the Lord's favor. Then he rolled 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:35.920 up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant, 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.459 and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue 00:04:39.459 --> 00:04:42.279 were fastened on him. He began by saying to them, 00:04:42.379 --> 00:04:44.879 Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing. 00:04:45.220 --> 00:04:47.579 All spoke well of him and were amazed at his 00:04:47.579 --> 00:04:49.540 gracious words that came from his lips. Isn't 00:04:49.540 --> 00:04:52.060 this Joseph's son? they asked. Jesus said to 00:04:52.060 --> 00:04:53.959 them, Surely you will quote this proverb to me, 00:04:54.060 --> 00:04:56.360 Physician, heal thyself, and you will tell me, 00:04:56.379 --> 00:04:58.259 Do here in your hometown, which we have heard 00:04:58.259 --> 00:05:01.279 you... heard that you did in Capernaum. Truly 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:03.319 I tell you, he continued, no prophet is accepted 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:05.100 in their hometown. I assure you that there were 00:05:05.100 --> 00:05:07.540 many widows in Israel in Elijah's time, when 00:05:07.540 --> 00:05:09.120 the sky was shut for three and a half years, 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:10.779 and there was a severe famine throughout the 00:05:10.779 --> 00:05:13.060 land. Yet Elijah was not sent to any of them, 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:16.579 but to a widow in Zarephath, in the region of 00:05:16.579 --> 00:05:19.319 Sidon. By the way, I nailed that name. So good. 00:05:19.459 --> 00:05:22.639 I nailed it. And there were many in Israel with 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:24.779 leprosy in the time of Elisha the prophet, but 00:05:24.779 --> 00:05:26.920 yet not one of them was cleansed, only Naaman 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:29.199 the Syrian. All the people in the synagogue were 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:30.800 furious when they heard this. They got up, drove 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:33.740 him out of the town, and took him to the brow 00:05:33.740 --> 00:05:36.000 of the hill on which the town was built in order 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:38.100 to throw him off the cliff. But he walked right 00:05:38.100 --> 00:05:40.720 through the crowd and went on his way. Okay. 00:05:43.779 --> 00:05:47.079 A couple of contextual things. He's reading in 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:49.300 the Sabbath. In synagogues during this time, 00:05:49.339 --> 00:05:51.240 they have what's called the Parsha reading. Right. 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:53.000 So you would read in and the Haftarah reading. 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:55.860 So the parasha is in synagogue every week. You 00:05:55.860 --> 00:05:58.699 read a portion of Torah and you take turns going 00:05:58.699 --> 00:06:01.540 through all the families of the community. And 00:06:01.540 --> 00:06:03.139 each week they have each one of them is supposed 00:06:03.139 --> 00:06:05.920 to read. So they split it up because reading 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:08.220 the Bible is not a singular effort, it's a community 00:06:08.220 --> 00:06:10.620 effort. Everybody gets a chance to read the words 00:06:10.620 --> 00:06:13.639 of God. Incidentally, this is a little piece 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:16.839 that I found interesting in linguistics. When 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:18.699 they go to actually read, a lot of people are 00:06:18.699 --> 00:06:20.920 illiterate, so they can't actually read. They 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:22.899 go up to the scroll, but they actually read what's 00:06:22.899 --> 00:06:27.399 memorized. But there is a scribe who will stand 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.920 next to the person as they're reading, and if 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:31.560 they read it incorrectly, they'll just correct 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:34.089 them as they're going. because I said, well, 00:06:34.209 --> 00:06:36.689 it actually says this, right? You know what that 00:06:36.689 --> 00:06:38.810 person's called? What? The angel of the synagogue. 00:06:39.290 --> 00:06:42.410 All right. So I just think that's really interesting 00:06:42.410 --> 00:06:44.230 for those of you in Revelation who says, to the 00:06:44.230 --> 00:06:47.649 angel in the church of. Are they talking about 00:06:47.649 --> 00:06:49.189 a literal angel, or are they talking about the 00:06:49.189 --> 00:06:51.029 person responsible for making sure the word of 00:06:51.029 --> 00:06:54.730 God goes forward correctly? Maybe both. Yeah. 00:06:54.949 --> 00:06:57.730 Maybe both. Maybe. Anyways, little aside that 00:06:57.730 --> 00:06:59.170 has nothing to do with what we're talking about 00:06:59.170 --> 00:07:04.420 today. So Jesus is in his hometown and it's likely 00:07:04.420 --> 00:07:07.480 he's coming there for the reading because they 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:09.100 have a schedule. They know when they're going 00:07:09.100 --> 00:07:11.519 to be reading. He reads from the scroll of Isaiah. 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:14.180 They've all heard about him. And so they're like, 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:15.899 okay, is he going to say anything? Because normally 00:07:15.899 --> 00:07:17.920 you just do the reading. But then he actually 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:20.620 starts to say, this is fulfilled in your presence 00:07:20.620 --> 00:07:22.480 today. And I do think it's interesting. He actually 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:24.740 doesn't finish that quote from Isaiah. I need 00:07:24.740 --> 00:07:26.720 to find it really quick here. Yeah. So he actually 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:29.399 doesn't finish the quote. Now, they would have 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:32.540 been familiar with it. But the quote from Isaiah 00:07:32.540 --> 00:07:34.680 61 is, The spirit of the sovereign Lord is on 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:36.459 me, because the Lord has anointed me to proclaim 00:07:36.459 --> 00:07:39.100 good news to the poor. Yep, all nailed it. He 00:07:39.100 --> 00:07:40.660 has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to 00:07:40.660 --> 00:07:42.360 proclaim freedom for the captives, release the 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:44.480 darkness for the prisoners, to proclaim the year 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:46.199 of the Lord's favor. And this is the part where 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:48.259 he leaves off. And the day of vengeance of our 00:07:48.259 --> 00:07:52.379 God. That's the part he leaves off. I just... 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:54.839 I think it's important to note that even in this 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:58.319 quoting context, because they, in their mind, 00:07:58.379 --> 00:08:00.420 we've talked about Israel, is expecting a Messiah 00:08:00.420 --> 00:08:03.860 that's going to rise up and defeat Rome. Their 00:08:03.860 --> 00:08:07.879 mind is focused on vengeance. His mind is focused 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:10.540 on deliverance. Yes. Those are very different 00:08:10.540 --> 00:08:15.040 things, right? And at first, they love what he 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:18.860 has to say. They're like, yeah, the brokenhearted 00:08:18.860 --> 00:08:21.019 are going to be healed. The blind are going to 00:08:21.019 --> 00:08:24.379 see. We love this. This is fantastic. And they're 00:08:24.379 --> 00:08:27.939 like, isn't this Joseph's son? They're amazed. 00:08:28.019 --> 00:08:29.259 They love it. They hear everything about what 00:08:29.259 --> 00:08:30.620 he's doing. The Spirit of the Lord has been on 00:08:30.620 --> 00:08:32.220 him. He's been healing people all around. He 00:08:32.220 --> 00:08:33.600 comes back to his hometown, and they're like, 00:08:33.700 --> 00:08:37.500 let's see the stuff. Why isn't he doing the stuff? 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:41.659 Right? Well, we can get caught in that very narrow 00:08:41.659 --> 00:08:44.159 mindset of like, this is how it should be, right? 00:08:44.340 --> 00:08:47.860 Yeah. This is how every, this is exactly how 00:08:47.860 --> 00:08:51.639 it should be done. And you talk to anybody in 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:55.539 the way they do life, you will see that and how 00:08:55.539 --> 00:08:58.220 they go about life, right? You and I go about 00:08:58.220 --> 00:09:01.120 life a little bit differently, right? But it 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:04.799 is, and, but if you're the problem, it becomes 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:07.000 a problem when you try to impose that on other 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:10.570 people. If I went into somebody else's life and 00:09:10.570 --> 00:09:14.750 was like, hey, you have to live exactly how Lindsay 00:09:14.750 --> 00:09:19.230 and I live, and then they actually saw how we 00:09:19.230 --> 00:09:21.049 live, there might be some people who are like, 00:09:21.110 --> 00:09:25.789 eh, I don't know about that, right? Yeah. On 00:09:25.789 --> 00:09:27.769 the flip side, you could be like, here are principles 00:09:27.769 --> 00:09:29.629 of how Lindsay and I live that might be helpful 00:09:29.629 --> 00:09:35.179 to you, right? Yeah, exactly. In their mind, 00:09:35.299 --> 00:09:36.539 and they're having this conversation, I think 00:09:36.539 --> 00:09:39.580 sometimes we love the message of, I've come to 00:09:39.580 --> 00:09:41.960 proclaim this, and I've come to do this. But 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:44.100 then they're like, but where's the stuff? I don't 00:09:44.100 --> 00:09:46.399 want to see the stuff. Let's see Rome overthrown. 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:48.379 I want to, you know, like these different things. 00:09:48.580 --> 00:09:50.360 And so then he quotes from the proverb. He says, 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:51.820 some of you will say to yourself, physician, 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:55.120 heal thyself. Right? And then he says something 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.759 that really aggravates them. And he says, in 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:02.000 the time of Elijah, when there was drought, a 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:04.919 lot of people went without food. But Elijah was 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:07.799 sent to somebody who wasn't part of Israel. And 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:11.220 in Elisha's time, a lot of people had leprosy. 00:10:12.419 --> 00:10:15.700 But Naaman, the foreigner, is the one who actually 00:10:15.700 --> 00:10:19.440 received healing from Elisha. And they're like... 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:21.860 what do you mean it's about all nations? It's 00:10:21.860 --> 00:10:24.039 supposed to be about us, right? What do you mean 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:26.080 it's about actually blessing the people around 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:27.720 you? It's supposed to be about us, which, by 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:29.259 the way, goes back to Torah, goes back to this 00:10:29.259 --> 00:10:32.019 whole idea of you are blessed to bless all people. 00:10:32.279 --> 00:10:35.519 And this, in some places, the narrative is getting 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:37.480 lost. When we're talking about, yeah, proclaim 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:40.179 the freedom, overthrow the captors, heal the 00:10:40.179 --> 00:10:45.679 sick, love that. What do you mean Gentiles? What 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:48.850 do you mean the people that I don't like? Well, 00:10:48.889 --> 00:10:50.690 we do that in church too, right? Right. Where 00:10:50.690 --> 00:10:53.789 we're like, grace, mercy, redemption, forgiveness 00:10:53.789 --> 00:10:55.490 for all, and then a new person walks through 00:10:55.490 --> 00:10:58.090 the door, you know, a little raggedy looking, 00:10:58.190 --> 00:11:00.990 and we're like, eh. And we're like, okay, now 00:11:00.990 --> 00:11:03.730 watch the offering bucket. Make sure he's not 00:11:03.730 --> 00:11:05.669 taking anything out of that, because that's ours. 00:11:06.429 --> 00:11:11.039 Right? Versus like, it's, it's, it's like, okay. 00:11:11.139 --> 00:11:12.779 You see what I'm saying? Yeah. No, no. I actually 00:11:12.779 --> 00:11:14.679 am a hundred percent with you because, okay. 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:17.580 So I do like, I want to caveat this too, that 00:11:17.580 --> 00:11:19.259 I do think the stewardship of your money is really 00:11:19.259 --> 00:11:20.740 good. Having security, all those types of things. 00:11:21.100 --> 00:11:23.980 Also, it's not actually our money. It's God's 00:11:23.980 --> 00:11:26.940 money to do with like, to do ministry. Yep. Exactly. 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:29.940 And yeah. And so, but we do this in church where 00:11:29.940 --> 00:11:32.000 we're like, this is the, this is a great message. 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:34.039 And then someone comes in who really needs to 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:35.700 hear that message, an outsider. And we're like, 00:11:35.779 --> 00:11:38.500 I don't, I don't know. if I feel comfortable 00:11:38.500 --> 00:11:41.500 with them being in the building. And then at 00:11:41.500 --> 00:11:43.960 that point, it's like, okay, well, let's go back 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:48.039 to what this is really about. I mean, we've talked 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:49.860 about it in the past, but are you creating safe 00:11:49.860 --> 00:11:52.659 or transformative places? Yeah. Right? Because 00:11:52.659 --> 00:11:54.759 transformative places are not typically safe. 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:58.740 So we've referenced it a couple of times on the 00:11:58.740 --> 00:12:01.500 podcast, but in one of the chapters of, just 00:12:01.500 --> 00:12:03.000 talking about what we're talking about, one of 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:05.259 the chapters of my book that I released, it's 00:12:05.259 --> 00:12:07.809 called Getting Out of Diapers. Let's talk about 00:12:07.809 --> 00:12:10.090 when people come into your family. Like, babies 00:12:10.090 --> 00:12:13.549 poop a lot. Really? Yeah, I know. This is shocking 00:12:13.549 --> 00:12:15.929 to you. Everybody listening is like, what do 00:12:15.929 --> 00:12:17.950 you mean babies poop? Yeah, babies poop a lot. 00:12:18.029 --> 00:12:20.149 And I don't know if you know this, but they also 00:12:20.149 --> 00:12:23.799 do it in their pants a lot. the expectation of 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:25.879 a baby is not that it's not going to poop its 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:27.799 pants. In fact, the expectation is that it is 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:29.980 going to poop its pants for a long time. It's 00:12:29.980 --> 00:12:32.899 going to take years before they grow to the point 00:12:32.899 --> 00:12:34.500 where they're going to be able to take care of 00:12:34.500 --> 00:12:37.240 that situation themselves. And when you're transitioning 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:40.559 from diapers to non -diapers, it is a hectic 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:44.470 time. potentially. And it is, especially in the 00:12:44.470 --> 00:12:48.110 case of my son, it was a very hectic time, that 00:12:48.110 --> 00:12:51.389 he was, let's just say, less enthused of using 00:12:51.389 --> 00:12:54.590 a toilet. Now, why do I say that? Because we 00:12:54.590 --> 00:12:56.350 have people who come and they come to hear God's 00:12:56.350 --> 00:12:57.889 word for the first time. They respond in faith. 00:12:57.970 --> 00:13:00.990 They come to understand who Jesus is. They accept 00:13:00.990 --> 00:13:03.009 him into their life. They step into our church. 00:13:03.110 --> 00:13:04.970 The expectation is they're going to mess up. 00:13:05.830 --> 00:13:08.799 They're going to be messy. Yeah. That's the expectation. 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:10.940 And that should be the expectation of the church. 00:13:11.340 --> 00:13:15.059 People are going to mess up. And it's our job 00:13:15.059 --> 00:13:17.460 to, as family, community, be around them and 00:13:17.460 --> 00:13:19.279 help them clean up. It's going to be a process. 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:22.019 It's not a place for shame. It's a process of 00:13:22.019 --> 00:13:24.960 growing up. Yeah. And, I mean, when you're potty 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:27.100 training a kid, like, every kid learns different, 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:31.860 right? So, for example, with our daughter, we 00:13:31.860 --> 00:13:33.580 just did the cold turkey method when she was 00:13:33.580 --> 00:13:35.840 about two years old. Is that if she doesn't go, 00:13:35.899 --> 00:13:37.460 you throw cold turkey at her? Exactly. Yeah, 00:13:37.460 --> 00:13:40.480 perfect. No, we just, we actually were like, 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:41.899 hey, we're just going to have a few months where 00:13:41.899 --> 00:13:44.460 she's going to run around with no diapers on, 00:13:44.580 --> 00:13:48.419 and she's going to potentially. uh like and we 00:13:48.419 --> 00:13:50.379 did no pants too like we were in the house and 00:13:50.379 --> 00:13:52.200 she's gonna pee and when we see her peeing we're 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:53.440 just gonna move her to the toilet real quick 00:13:53.440 --> 00:13:55.700 and she caught on really quick like oh this is 00:13:55.700 --> 00:13:57.539 what i gotta do right and we had to clean up 00:13:57.539 --> 00:14:02.059 some messes right um and so like that is like 00:14:02.059 --> 00:14:03.840 but there's other there's other families who 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.440 do it differently right um and so When it comes 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:10.539 to helping people follow Jesus, you also have 00:14:10.539 --> 00:14:12.700 to take them where they're at. Yeah. I mean, 00:14:12.700 --> 00:14:14.460 you wouldn't expect a baby to use the toilet. 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:17.899 No. Right? Yeah. But along with that, you also 00:14:17.899 --> 00:14:21.779 have to take them where they're at. Some people 00:14:21.779 --> 00:14:24.399 can ease into it a little bit more, and there's 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:25.840 other people where they're like, nope, I'm following 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:28.720 Jesus. I have to rip this huge thing out of my 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:31.919 life right away. Yeah. Right? And so you have 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:35.159 to walk with people where they're at and encourage 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:38.840 them in the right direction. Yeah. And just to 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:41.299 be clear, the toilet and Jesus are two different 00:14:41.299 --> 00:14:43.440 things. Yes. This is what we call an analogy. 00:14:43.620 --> 00:14:47.919 Yes. This is not theology. I think what has been 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:51.899 problematic in community is when somebody comes 00:14:51.899 --> 00:14:54.019 to Jesus, they expect things to instantly change. 00:14:54.100 --> 00:14:57.120 And that's just not like you're in the process 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:00.279 of merging your life with Jesus. And I think 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:02.820 the problem is that some things do change dramatically. 00:15:03.100 --> 00:15:05.000 Like maybe your attitude, your perspective, like 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:06.320 all these different things change dramatically. 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:09.340 Because you've gone from zero to 100 with Jesus. 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:11.700 But not everything in your life changes. He starts 00:15:11.700 --> 00:15:13.220 to reveal things. He starts to move through your 00:15:13.220 --> 00:15:17.419 life. And you're like, oh, I'm here 28 years 00:15:17.419 --> 00:15:21.480 into my faith. God's still like, hey, you know 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:24.639 this thing? Why don't we tweak that a little 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:28.679 bit? Right? Yeah. And especially when he moves 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.899 me into new avenues, new situations that I haven't 00:15:31.899 --> 00:15:35.059 been in before. It's a lot of, like, God is like, 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:36.620 hey, I'm going to work you through this. And 00:15:36.620 --> 00:15:38.220 when I step into things I've never done before, 00:15:38.340 --> 00:15:41.100 it's messy again. And I have to learn again. 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:44.700 I was watching my son play soccer this last weekend. 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:46.740 And I remember the first year when he played 00:15:46.740 --> 00:15:50.639 soccer. And let's just say following the ball 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.980 is not his favorite thing. Laying on the ground 00:15:52.980 --> 00:15:55.120 or doing windmills was more his favorite thing. 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:59.200 But this year we had the conversation. I told 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:01.179 him, I said, hey, if you get a goal. you get 00:16:01.179 --> 00:16:03.700 ice cream. Or if you kick the ball at least 10 00:16:03.700 --> 00:16:07.659 times, you get ice cream. And that kid was motivated. 00:16:07.779 --> 00:16:09.600 Let me tell you, I have a video where he was 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:11.340 like, he's like chasing that ball down and getting 00:16:11.340 --> 00:16:13.080 his foot in there however he can because that 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:16.299 kid wants some ice cream. But even the difference 00:16:16.299 --> 00:16:18.720 between a year, like growing up between a year, 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:20.399 it makes a big difference in how he's able to 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:23.580 handle it. And there's just no replacement to 00:16:23.580 --> 00:16:27.320 spending time like living, like living into something. 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:31.940 Right? Right. I think what's frustrating in this 00:16:31.940 --> 00:16:36.960 story with Jesus is they grew up with Jesus, 00:16:37.059 --> 00:16:38.559 they're familiar with where he comes from, and 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:40.559 they have expectations on who he's going to be. 00:16:41.940 --> 00:16:44.419 I mean, you can imagine if you saw Jesus as a 00:16:44.419 --> 00:16:47.419 teenager, we have no idea what he was like. Nope. 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:49.799 But, you know, we don't know what he was like 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:51.240 as a teenager. We don't know if he was a really 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:55.500 good tecton crafter. I mean, I assume that he 00:16:55.500 --> 00:16:59.480 was good at woodworking. But, you know, like, 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:02.299 these are the people, watch them grow up. And 00:17:02.299 --> 00:17:04.880 it's so much different than, like, in a town 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:08.839 we would grow up in today. The most probably 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:11.039 closely modeled would be those really, really 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:13.940 small rural towns, right, where they have, like, 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:17.440 50 people. Yeah. And everybody's property is 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:20.240 connected and they know everybody. I had a friend 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:22.579 who lived up in Healy, Alaska. Do you know that 00:17:22.579 --> 00:17:25.339 area? I think there's, like, 400 people there, 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:28.789 maybe. Yeah. It's like 400 people. So you literally 00:17:28.789 --> 00:17:33.569 know everybody. And it's really hard to get away 00:17:33.569 --> 00:17:35.170 with anything in a community like that where 00:17:35.170 --> 00:17:38.210 everybody knows anybody. Yeah. Right. And so 00:17:38.210 --> 00:17:40.529 and you also have like when you have a town like 00:17:40.529 --> 00:17:42.269 that, it's really good. But you also have this 00:17:42.269 --> 00:17:46.210 thing of like everybody knows you. And when people 00:17:46.210 --> 00:17:48.910 form ideas about you, sometimes it's hard to 00:17:48.910 --> 00:17:51.410 step out of what they have in their head about 00:17:51.410 --> 00:17:55.250 you. Yeah. Yeah. I have friends up in Galena, 00:17:55.329 --> 00:17:59.069 Alaska, which is, I mean, it's like east of Fairbanks, 00:17:59.069 --> 00:18:01.509 about an hour flight or so. Middle of nowhere, 00:18:01.569 --> 00:18:05.470 again, like maybe 200 people, right? Yeah. And 00:18:05.470 --> 00:18:08.769 again, everybody who knows everybody. Yeah. And 00:18:08.769 --> 00:18:11.730 yeah. And so Jesus comes back to his hometown, 00:18:11.970 --> 00:18:15.549 and they love the message, but they're like... 00:18:15.769 --> 00:18:17.710 okay, but we've been hearing all this stuff you're 00:18:17.710 --> 00:18:19.589 doing. Why aren't you doing it anywhere else? 00:18:19.690 --> 00:18:22.190 Give us the stuff. Give us the, you know, do 00:18:22.190 --> 00:18:25.970 the stuff. And he's like, you don't really understand 00:18:25.970 --> 00:18:30.309 why I'm here. Like, it's not about the stuff. 00:18:30.529 --> 00:18:33.150 It's about actually getting your life in line 00:18:33.150 --> 00:18:35.630 with God. It's about deliverance from something 00:18:35.630 --> 00:18:38.089 that you don't even realize is killing you. Right? 00:18:38.809 --> 00:18:41.450 And they get so frustrated with him that they're 00:18:41.450 --> 00:18:42.769 like, hey, you know what? I think we're just 00:18:42.769 --> 00:18:44.069 going to take you to the edge of town and chuck 00:18:44.069 --> 00:18:47.819 you off the... Check you off the cliff, which 00:18:47.819 --> 00:18:49.200 by the way, I was actually looking at Nazareth 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:50.839 and there is totally like this like cliff area. 00:18:50.900 --> 00:18:52.579 So it totally tracks. So this is a place they 00:18:52.579 --> 00:18:57.400 would have gone. Yeah. I just, I wonder how often 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:03.119 God is talking to us and because of our preconceived 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:05.940 notions on who we think he is. because of either 00:19:05.940 --> 00:19:08.619 like the tradition we grew up in or something 00:19:08.619 --> 00:19:11.940 we just got held on to we've never actually stopped 00:19:11.940 --> 00:19:13.819 long enough to see that maybe he's doing something 00:19:13.819 --> 00:19:17.200 broader than what we think yeah right that he's 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:18.779 loving just a little bit wider than we think 00:19:18.779 --> 00:19:22.720 that he's uh just you know just all those different 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:26.809 things that kind of go with that So Jesus has 00:19:26.809 --> 00:19:28.910 this confrontation, and then one of the things 00:19:28.910 --> 00:19:31.250 he immediately does is he goes and calls a bunch 00:19:31.250 --> 00:19:33.910 of people with very different perspectives. We're 00:19:33.910 --> 00:19:35.609 going to hear about a few of them, so just calling 00:19:35.609 --> 00:19:37.609 some of the first disciples. Starting in chapter 00:19:37.609 --> 00:19:44.829 5, it says, Nailed it. The people were crowding 00:19:44.829 --> 00:19:46.470 around him and listening to the word of God. 00:19:46.589 --> 00:19:48.609 And he saw on the water's edge two boats left 00:19:48.609 --> 00:19:50.509 there by the fishermen who were washing their 00:19:50.509 --> 00:19:53.009 nets. He got into one of the boats, the one belonging 00:19:53.009 --> 00:19:55.089 to Simon, and asked to be put out a little from 00:19:55.089 --> 00:19:57.190 shore. Then he sat down and taught the people 00:19:57.190 --> 00:19:59.769 from the boat. By the way, I should note something 00:19:59.769 --> 00:20:01.410 that came up in the last passage and is here. 00:20:01.869 --> 00:20:03.710 When Jesus read, he stood because you always 00:20:03.710 --> 00:20:04.990 stand when you're reading from the word of God. 00:20:05.009 --> 00:20:06.690 But when you actually teach, you sit down in 00:20:06.690 --> 00:20:09.470 Jewish custom. So that's one of the reasons they 00:20:09.470 --> 00:20:11.660 keep saying that he sits down. before he starts 00:20:11.660 --> 00:20:13.400 teaching, is because that's a Jewish custom. 00:20:15.420 --> 00:20:17.200 When he finished speaking, he said to Simon, 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:20.660 put it out into deep water and let down the nets 00:20:20.660 --> 00:20:23.059 for a catch. Simon answered, Master, we worked 00:20:23.059 --> 00:20:25.579 hard all night and haven't caught anything, but 00:20:25.579 --> 00:20:27.500 because you say so, I will put down the nets. 00:20:28.019 --> 00:20:30.640 When they had done so, they caught such a large 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:32.380 number of fish that their nets began to break. 00:20:32.500 --> 00:20:34.019 So they signaled their partners in the other 00:20:34.019 --> 00:20:36.859 boat to come and help them. And they came and 00:20:36.859 --> 00:20:38.980 filled... both boats so full that they began 00:20:38.980 --> 00:20:41.220 to sink. When Simon Peter saw this, he fell at 00:20:41.220 --> 00:20:44.299 Jesus' knees and said, Go away from me, Lord, 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:46.539 I am a sinful man. For he and all his companions 00:20:46.539 --> 00:20:48.660 were astonished at the catch of fish they had 00:20:48.660 --> 00:20:51.500 taken. And so were James and John, the sons of 00:20:51.500 --> 00:20:53.599 Zebedee, Simon's partners. Then Jesus said to 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:55.460 Simon, Don't be afraid. From now on you will 00:20:55.460 --> 00:20:57.640 fish for people. So they pulled their boats up 00:20:57.640 --> 00:20:59.240 on shore, left everything, and followed him. 00:21:00.140 --> 00:21:01.779 Now, obviously, there is a different account 00:21:01.779 --> 00:21:04.180 of how that story is told in different places. 00:21:06.430 --> 00:21:09.009 A couple of things we want to note there is that 00:21:09.009 --> 00:21:12.450 Jeremiah 16, 16 actually references God sending 00:21:12.450 --> 00:21:15.009 fishers to gather his people. This whole idea 00:21:15.009 --> 00:21:18.410 of fishing for people is not a new concept. It 00:21:18.410 --> 00:21:20.049 is actually an Old Testament concept that Jesus 00:21:20.049 --> 00:21:23.190 is breathing new life into. I think that it's 00:21:23.190 --> 00:21:25.349 important to know that we have these people who 00:21:25.349 --> 00:21:31.140 are being amazed or they want the stuff. so focused 00:21:31.140 --> 00:21:34.279 on the mission, on what they want, that when 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:35.920 Jesus starts talking about actually wanting to 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:38.960 go and it be about all nations, they get frustrated 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:41.900 and want to throw him off a cliff. In this story, 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:45.480 Jesus is preaching to people. He uses their boat, 00:21:45.539 --> 00:21:47.500 sits down, preaches to them, gets a miraculous 00:21:47.500 --> 00:21:50.539 catch of fish, but their first reaction isn't, 00:21:50.539 --> 00:21:53.720 sweet, lots of fish. It's that you shouldn't 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:57.900 be here because I don't deserve your grace. I 00:21:57.900 --> 00:22:00.880 don't deserve to have you around here. He says, 00:22:00.980 --> 00:22:03.720 that's okay. Of course you don't. Most people 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:07.180 don't. It's Ben's living translation, the BLT. 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:09.599 But what I'm going to do is I'm going to actually 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:13.740 have you go and fish all nations. Right? It's 00:22:13.740 --> 00:22:18.019 actual recognition of like, I don't have it together. 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:19.849 And God says, I know. But I'm going to send you 00:22:19.849 --> 00:22:21.410 out, and you're going to go. And they gladly 00:22:21.410 --> 00:22:24.329 follow. Yeah, the other thing that Jesus foreshadows 00:22:24.329 --> 00:22:28.609 here is that when you follow him, things... probably 00:22:28.609 --> 00:22:30.910 aren't going to go exactly in the order you think 00:22:30.910 --> 00:22:33.329 they're going to go. So these are professional 00:22:33.329 --> 00:22:36.089 fishermen. They knew how to do it. They knew 00:22:36.089 --> 00:22:38.490 when to go out, all this stuff. It was not custom 00:22:38.490 --> 00:22:40.769 to actually go fish middle of the day in this 00:22:40.769 --> 00:22:42.349 culture. You went out at night, early in the 00:22:42.349 --> 00:22:45.150 morning, late in the evening. So you get done 00:22:45.150 --> 00:22:48.349 with this teaching. Most scholars argue this 00:22:48.349 --> 00:22:50.789 was close to middle of the day. It doesn't actually 00:22:50.789 --> 00:22:53.529 say. Let's say it's somewhere between 9 and 2. 00:22:53.650 --> 00:22:58.740 Yeah. And so Jesus, you know, is acting like 00:22:58.740 --> 00:23:01.039 a rabbi who knows nothing about fishing at this 00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:03.519 point. And he's like, all right, it's 10 a .m., 00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:05.700 let's go fishing. And they're like, we were out 00:23:05.700 --> 00:23:09.480 all night, nothing happened. And Jesus is like, 00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:11.400 ah, let's give it a try anyways. They're like, 00:23:11.460 --> 00:23:13.799 okay. So they go out and they're successful, 00:23:13.900 --> 00:23:16.140 right? And the reality is, is when we follow 00:23:16.140 --> 00:23:17.599 Jesus, there's going to be times where Jesus 00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:21.660 is like, hey, how about this? And we're like. 00:23:23.410 --> 00:23:26.730 Excuse me? And we tend to double check that, 00:23:26.789 --> 00:23:29.390 right? Because it doesn't fit our narrative or 00:23:29.390 --> 00:23:31.930 what we know. But that's the reality of following 00:23:31.930 --> 00:23:35.190 Jesus. God in general has weird battle plans. 00:23:36.009 --> 00:23:37.630 Jericho, I want you to walk around the city. 00:23:37.890 --> 00:23:39.509 It was a horrible battle plan. Last time I want 00:23:39.509 --> 00:23:40.230 you to walk around seven times blowing the trumpets. 00:23:40.230 --> 00:23:41.970 From an earthly perspective, horrible battle 00:23:41.970 --> 00:23:43.769 plan. And then go scream at the wall, right? 00:23:45.210 --> 00:23:47.150 What's Gideon is like, hey, I want you to get 00:23:47.150 --> 00:23:49.309 rid of most of your people and then get a trumpet 00:23:49.309 --> 00:23:52.519 and a clay pot and then surround them. Blow the 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:54.799 trumpet, break the pot, and scream. So on that 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:57.400 one, I preached on that one time. Because on 00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:00.259 Gideon, they surrounded him, right? And someone 00:24:00.259 --> 00:24:02.759 was like, well, they were on these hills. And 00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:05.960 when they yelled and made noise, that's probably 00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:08.519 what threw. And they saw, they're like, one torch 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:10.519 could have represented like 30 ,000 people. And 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:14.980 I was like, except for, there's no way 300 is 00:24:14.980 --> 00:24:18.740 going to sound like 300 ,000 or 900 ,000 or whatever 00:24:18.740 --> 00:24:24.099 it is. And they're like. Well, unless God intervened. 00:24:24.099 --> 00:24:25.640 And I was like, now you're getting the point 00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:29.519 of the story. The point of the story is to follow 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:33.980 God's plan. Jesus' plan for fishing. Don't fish 00:24:33.980 --> 00:24:36.039 at night when is the right time or early in the 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:37.920 morning, which is the right time. Go cast your 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:40.400 net after you cleaned it. Because it says they're 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:42.140 cleaning their nets. After you clean your net, 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:43.779 go check it out in the water. And it's going 00:24:43.779 --> 00:24:45.420 to be so much that you're literally going to 00:24:45.420 --> 00:24:46.579 have to get your buddies over here to help you 00:24:46.579 --> 00:24:50.299 drag it in. Right? Later, he's going to have 00:24:50.299 --> 00:24:52.660 this conversation, which I think is a worthwhile 00:24:52.660 --> 00:24:56.579 conversation for us, because Jesus calls Peter 00:24:56.579 --> 00:24:58.500 to be a fisher of men, and there is some implication 00:24:58.500 --> 00:25:00.180 that we're called to be fishers of men, too, 00:25:00.220 --> 00:25:02.240 in the same vein as what Peter and the apostles 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.619 are called to be called, right? To go and fish 00:25:04.619 --> 00:25:08.119 for people, right? He's going to tell a parable 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:12.339 later in the Gospels, which is that you go and 00:25:12.339 --> 00:25:17.440 catch the fish, every kind. The angels will sort 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:20.380 them out. They'll separate the good and the bad 00:25:20.380 --> 00:25:24.059 ones. And Christian, I just got to tell you, 00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:28.200 Christian, me being you, I see a lot of social 00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:30.279 media of us trying to figure out which fish are 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:35.180 fish. Stop. Just go catch fish. Let the angels 00:25:35.180 --> 00:25:38.019 sort it out. Yeah. Go share the gospel. Go be 00:25:38.019 --> 00:25:43.360 the light into a dark world. Yeah. Be salt. Right? 00:25:43.360 --> 00:25:45.160 Similar story, it's going to be right there with 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:47.019 the wheat and the tares, is that there's wheat 00:25:47.019 --> 00:25:48.440 and then there's tares sowed among them, and 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:50.099 they say, well, do you want us to go rip up the 00:25:50.099 --> 00:25:51.279 tares? He's like, no, because you might take 00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:54.160 some of the wheat with it. Let it grow, and at 00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:57.140 the end, we'll harvest, and the angels will take 00:25:57.140 --> 00:26:01.299 out the tares. Right? Nowhere in there was that 00:26:01.299 --> 00:26:07.140 our job. Our job was to grow, to receive, to 00:26:07.140 --> 00:26:09.180 grow, be fruitful, all those different things 00:26:09.180 --> 00:26:14.140 that are in there. Go fish. Generally speaking, 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:19.279 leave judgment to God. Right? That's a little 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:21.940 aside, but man, that is a huge thing that is 00:26:21.940 --> 00:26:24.900 happening. Well, and how freeing is that? To 00:26:24.900 --> 00:26:28.119 be like, okay, it's not my job to, it's my job 00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:31.559 to be the light, to disciple, to share the good 00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:34.319 news, right? And if people give me the authority 00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:36.880 to speak into their lives and to be, you know, 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:41.089 to provide correction, absolutely. But it's the 00:26:41.089 --> 00:26:45.650 Lord's job to determine what is good. Like the 00:26:45.650 --> 00:26:49.009 good, the bad, right? And the ugly. And the ugly. 00:26:49.230 --> 00:26:54.650 I couldn't resist. I know. Yeah. Ah! So. Right. 00:26:55.410 --> 00:26:58.869 Yeah, no, it is. But it's a reoccurring thing. 00:26:58.970 --> 00:27:02.190 And so I just find there's just this parallel 00:27:02.190 --> 00:27:04.269 of like this attitude is like, what's in it for 00:27:04.269 --> 00:27:08.009 me? I actually. Peter's quote reminds me of Isaiah 00:27:08.009 --> 00:27:10.730 6. When Isaiah is caught up in the throne of 00:27:10.730 --> 00:27:13.049 God, he sees the presence of God. He sees the 00:27:13.049 --> 00:27:17.250 magnificence of God. And he goes, I shouldn't 00:27:17.250 --> 00:27:20.349 be here. I am an unclean man, and I live among 00:27:20.349 --> 00:27:22.750 a people of unclean people. And then God sends 00:27:22.750 --> 00:27:24.190 the person with the coal to go and touch his 00:27:24.190 --> 00:27:26.190 tongue. And then he says, I've got to send some 00:27:26.190 --> 00:27:27.890 people out. Who's going to go? Isaiah replies, 00:27:28.710 --> 00:27:31.690 here I am. Send me. Very similar. Peter's going 00:27:31.690 --> 00:27:33.890 to say, I am a sinful man. You shouldn't be here. 00:27:34.029 --> 00:27:36.549 He's like, yeah, but I'm calling you. and you're 00:27:36.549 --> 00:27:40.609 going to go. Yeah. Right? And it's important 00:27:40.609 --> 00:27:42.349 to note that Peter's probably the oldest of them, 00:27:42.410 --> 00:27:44.789 but we're probably talking in his 20s, early 00:27:44.789 --> 00:27:47.289 20s. He's married because we know he has a mother 00:27:47.289 --> 00:27:50.490 -in -law, or was married. And we know he's old 00:27:50.490 --> 00:27:52.569 enough to pay the temple tax. Yeah, so that's 00:27:52.569 --> 00:27:56.029 why a lot of people say 21. But James and John, 00:27:56.190 --> 00:27:59.930 nope. They're probably 12, 13, or right on that 00:27:59.930 --> 00:28:01.109 cusp because they're still working with their 00:28:01.109 --> 00:28:02.890 dad, so they haven't barred mitzvahed, so they're 00:28:02.890 --> 00:28:06.880 not separate from the household. And then you 00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:08.380 have Andrew, who's going to be younger, but he's 00:28:08.380 --> 00:28:11.640 probably not that much younger than Peter, Simon, 00:28:11.779 --> 00:28:15.279 in this story. And so these young guys are being 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.440 called to pursue and follow after Jesus, and 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:22.039 they leave everything. They leave everything. 00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:26.039 You have this Nazareth town, which people are 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:27.640 going to say, what good comes out of Nazareth? 00:28:28.059 --> 00:28:31.200 And now you have these little teenage boys and 00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:35.170 a guy who's self -proclaimed is... a sinful man 00:28:35.170 --> 00:28:41.950 that are not disciples. The problem isn't where 00:28:41.950 --> 00:28:44.069 you come from. It's how do you respond to the 00:28:44.069 --> 00:28:47.430 call? Yeah. Actually, I saw this and I just, 00:28:47.470 --> 00:28:50.150 man, I love this analogy that a pastor, he went 00:28:50.150 --> 00:28:53.410 to a conference and he was signed up to be a 00:28:53.410 --> 00:28:56.130 teacher there. And he said, hey, can I get the 00:28:56.130 --> 00:28:58.369 names of people who signed up to come to this 00:28:58.369 --> 00:29:01.150 conference? And the names and addresses are like, 00:29:01.190 --> 00:29:02.970 yeah, sure. That's weird, but okay, whatever. 00:29:04.009 --> 00:29:07.230 So he picked, like, seven or eight people out 00:29:07.230 --> 00:29:09.210 of the conference, and he wrote them a check 00:29:09.210 --> 00:29:14.289 for $10, and he sent it to them. And all of them 00:29:14.289 --> 00:29:16.509 received the check, but, like, nobody's cashing. 00:29:16.529 --> 00:29:17.849 He keeps checking his account. Nobody cashes 00:29:17.849 --> 00:29:18.930 it. Nobody cashes it. Nobody cashes it. Finally, 00:29:19.069 --> 00:29:20.329 somebody cashes one, so he sends them another 00:29:20.329 --> 00:29:22.890 check. And they cash that one, so he sends them 00:29:22.890 --> 00:29:25.549 another check, right, leading up to this conference. 00:29:26.289 --> 00:29:29.630 And I think he said two out of, like, eight. 00:29:30.610 --> 00:29:32.910 cash the check. And he gets there and he says, 00:29:33.089 --> 00:29:35.369 and I'm going to make up a name, but Tom Bombadero, 00:29:35.410 --> 00:29:38.950 obviously I'm quoting from Lord of the Rings. 00:29:39.490 --> 00:29:41.289 He's like, where are you? And he's like, oh, 00:29:41.309 --> 00:29:43.809 I'm over here. He's like, I wrote you a check. 00:29:44.430 --> 00:29:46.569 Why didn't you cash it? I didn't know if it was 00:29:46.569 --> 00:29:50.309 for me. It had your name on it. It was from me. 00:29:50.789 --> 00:29:54.730 And he's like, how many times are we given a 00:29:54.730 --> 00:29:57.789 check? We're given a solution to a problem. We're 00:29:57.789 --> 00:30:00.349 given something specifically. And we're like, 00:30:00.349 --> 00:30:02.460 well, I just don't know if it's for me. Yeah. 00:30:03.140 --> 00:30:05.559 Whereas the other person he says her name was 00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:07.160 Barbara. And she's like, Barbara, blah, blah, 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:08.559 blah. Where are you? And she's like, I'm here. 00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:09.900 He's like, you cashed my check? She's like, I 00:30:09.900 --> 00:30:12.799 cashed all of them. Right? And he's like, everybody 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:14.680 had the same opportunity. I sent everybody the 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:16.059 same check, but some people cashed them and some 00:30:16.059 --> 00:30:19.359 people didn't. And I wonder if there's not something 00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.859 that we can glean here from this call of God 00:30:21.859 --> 00:30:24.200 is that he's ready for all of us to get involved. 00:30:24.789 --> 00:30:26.509 Now, some of us later, there's going to be a 00:30:26.509 --> 00:30:28.329 story about five talents, two talents, one talent. 00:30:28.710 --> 00:30:30.309 Either way, he wants to give you a talent. He 00:30:30.309 --> 00:30:31.690 wants to give you a deposit. He wants to give 00:30:31.690 --> 00:30:34.049 you something to go put active. He's giving you 00:30:34.049 --> 00:30:36.269 a check. It's not your authority. It's not your 00:30:36.269 --> 00:30:38.890 power. It's not anything that you've done that 00:30:38.890 --> 00:30:41.410 influences this. But you now have this resource 00:30:41.410 --> 00:30:45.210 to go and be fishers of people, to change the 00:30:45.210 --> 00:30:46.730 world, to make it look like the place that you 00:30:46.730 --> 00:30:49.809 come from, which is heaven. Yeah. The real question 00:30:49.809 --> 00:30:51.799 is, are you going to cash that check? are you 00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:53.200 going to try to chuck the Son of God off the 00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:58.140 side of a cliff? Yeah. Right? And that's hard, 00:30:58.259 --> 00:31:00.579 because I think that if we're really intellectually 00:31:00.579 --> 00:31:03.440 honest, we struggle more with the side of that 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.099 we'd rather chuck Jesus off a cliff than deal 00:31:05.099 --> 00:31:09.519 with cashing a check. Well, yes. You also got 00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:12.240 to caveat this with, are we aware that we're 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.579 choosing the throwing Jesus off a cliff? I don't 00:31:14.579 --> 00:31:16.519 think so. I think we're unintentionally doing 00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:20.000 it. But if we look at what we actually do with 00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.720 what God gives us, It's what we often do. And 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:24.680 we have to be intentional and look at that. Yeah. 00:31:24.740 --> 00:31:27.099 Right? Being like, what has God given me, and 00:31:27.099 --> 00:31:30.220 am I using this for his glory? Yeah. Right? Because 00:31:30.220 --> 00:31:32.720 reality is, is it's not ours anyways, right? 00:31:33.420 --> 00:31:36.519 Right? Like, we both have houses in our names, 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:39.200 right? Yeah. They're really not our houses. Yeah. 00:31:39.259 --> 00:31:41.890 Right? They're not. They're the lords. Well, 00:31:41.950 --> 00:31:45.430 first they belong to our wives, but they had 00:31:45.430 --> 00:31:47.390 to surrender them to God. Us thinking we have 00:31:47.390 --> 00:31:49.049 a say of what the house looks like on the inside 00:31:49.049 --> 00:31:51.309 is a joke. I would like this. Well, that's great, 00:31:51.369 --> 00:31:53.990 honey. You get zero opinion. No, I'm just kidding. 00:31:54.049 --> 00:31:55.529 My wife actually asks my opinion all the time, 00:31:55.549 --> 00:31:57.369 and my opinion is I want somewhere comfy to sit. 00:31:58.809 --> 00:32:02.670 Yeah. But yeah, it all belongs to God, right? 00:32:03.490 --> 00:32:08.559 But we don't often... Or I say we struggle with 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:12.680 keeping that mentality in all things. And I just, 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:18.819 if there's one thing that we take away from this, 00:32:18.980 --> 00:32:22.799 I would say is that God is coming for all people. 00:32:22.859 --> 00:32:25.400 He's calling us to all people. He's given us 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:29.000 resources to go and fish. We need to go fish 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:30.980 and spend less time judging the fishes that we're 00:32:30.980 --> 00:32:35.759 catching. Just catch them. Go after them. Go 00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:39.920 after those fish that you think are undesirable. 00:32:40.220 --> 00:32:43.000 Well, and the reality is when you go fishing, 00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:47.599 there's times where you catch amazing fish. And 00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:50.619 there's times where you don't catch anything 00:32:50.619 --> 00:32:52.859 at all. And there's times where you catch fish 00:32:52.859 --> 00:32:55.559 that you're like, eh. Right? You know when you 00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:57.299 definitely don't catch fish? When you don't go 00:32:57.299 --> 00:33:00.200 fishing. Correct. Yeah. And that's the thing. 00:33:00.380 --> 00:33:02.380 Because if you don't go, you're never going to 00:33:02.380 --> 00:33:04.599 catch anything. Nothing's ever going to be caught. 00:33:04.910 --> 00:33:09.430 Yeah. I was watching an instructional video from 00:33:09.430 --> 00:33:13.029 a physical therapist, and they were talking about 00:33:13.029 --> 00:33:16.109 people like, oh, I can't lose weight because 00:33:16.109 --> 00:33:18.670 I don't have half hour to go to the gym in a 00:33:18.670 --> 00:33:20.410 day and all those different things. And they 00:33:20.410 --> 00:33:22.450 said, did you know that if you actually just 00:33:22.450 --> 00:33:27.259 find two minute intervals to do high. energy 00:33:27.259 --> 00:33:30.920 activity there's like a 45 reduction in like 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:33.779 uh like heart disease and cancer and like a bunch 00:33:33.779 --> 00:33:35.980 of other things you can do that twice a day we're 00:33:35.980 --> 00:33:38.660 literally talking like five minutes a day and 00:33:38.660 --> 00:33:41.980 then the health benefits so um like are there 00:33:41.980 --> 00:33:44.990 more for spending an hour in the gym yeah But 00:33:44.990 --> 00:33:46.390 you know when you don't get any benefit is when 00:33:46.390 --> 00:33:48.710 you don't go at all. I have a good friend. He's 00:33:48.710 --> 00:33:54.150 a very, very, very, very busy guy. He's talking 00:33:54.150 --> 00:33:56.829 about me. Yeah, yeah. He has an alarm that goes 00:33:56.829 --> 00:33:59.630 off on his phone every two hours, and he's like, 00:33:59.670 --> 00:34:02.289 yep, and it's 20 push -ups and 10 squats just 00:34:02.289 --> 00:34:04.250 every two hours just so I'm like, I did something. 00:34:05.029 --> 00:34:08.570 And he's like, yeah. So he's like, throughout 00:34:08.570 --> 00:34:11.349 the day, he's like, I do about 160 push -ups. 00:34:12.730 --> 00:34:16.869 and about 80 squats. I was like, well, do you 00:34:16.869 --> 00:34:20.789 realize that's more than most? Yeah. Imagine, 00:34:21.610 --> 00:34:24.789 I was having this conversation about when we're 00:34:24.789 --> 00:34:26.190 talking about discipleship and church growth 00:34:26.190 --> 00:34:28.050 and evangelism and reaching people for Jesus, 00:34:28.130 --> 00:34:30.150 sometimes it can be daunting because you look 00:34:30.150 --> 00:34:32.130 out into the world, you look out into even your 00:34:32.130 --> 00:34:33.650 group of friends, and you're like, man, there's 00:34:33.650 --> 00:34:36.929 so many people that don't know Jesus. What if 00:34:36.929 --> 00:34:41.440 you just focused on one? You spent time building 00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.239 a relationship with one person so you can talk 00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:45.500 about Jesus, so you can just share your life, 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:49.119 your story, and honestly just share a story with 00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:53.260 them. Just building relationships with one person, 00:34:53.380 --> 00:34:56.079 I think you'd be surprised as you look back over 00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:57.780 the years how many people you start impacting. 00:34:59.179 --> 00:35:01.639 One person that you intentionally, getting back 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:03.840 to that word, intentionally invest in and live 00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:07.000 into and reach out to. I'm not saying that there 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.769 might be more than one, sure. at least one one 00:35:09.769 --> 00:35:12.809 person that you're being intentional with on 00:35:12.809 --> 00:35:16.710 purpose right well and also being intentional 00:35:16.710 --> 00:35:21.510 in that moment right like it's not um just to 00:35:21.510 --> 00:35:24.389 give you a baseball analogy on this right if 00:35:24.389 --> 00:35:27.099 you're Incidentally, he is a huge Mariners fan. 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:29.139 So if you are not, feel free to send message 00:35:29.139 --> 00:35:32.820 or trash talk to loveandcontext at gmail .com. 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:36.199 Please do. I've been disappointed by them a number 00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:42.440 of times. But if you are at bat and you are trying 00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:44.860 to focus on the pitch that is coming 10 pitches 00:35:44.860 --> 00:35:47.260 from now, chances are you're going to have a 00:35:47.260 --> 00:35:50.400 crappy at bat. You really just have to take it 00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:54.940 one pitch at a time. And when we are... are sharing 00:35:54.940 --> 00:35:56.940 the gospel with people, we really just have to, 00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.340 who's in front of us? Who are we building a relationship 00:35:59.340 --> 00:36:01.940 with right now? And how are we building them 00:36:01.940 --> 00:36:05.719 up, right? It doesn't need to be these big steps. 00:36:05.860 --> 00:36:11.260 It doesn't need to be this big, grandiose plan. 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:14.619 It's just like, who's there right now who needs 00:36:14.619 --> 00:36:17.460 to hear about Jesus that's in my sphere, and 00:36:17.460 --> 00:36:22.079 how can I talk to them? Start there. Don't overcomplicate 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:28.329 it. Man. All right. Well, that's life of Jesus 00:36:28.329 --> 00:36:31.690 and rejection. By the way, this is something 00:36:31.690 --> 00:36:36.550 that I personally understand is that if you sometimes 00:36:36.550 --> 00:36:40.030 go back to people, now being in a hometown that 00:36:40.030 --> 00:36:43.670 I grew up in, right? Originally, I went back 00:36:43.670 --> 00:36:46.960 to the church that I originally came from. And 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.099 it was definitely a struggle because people remember 00:36:49.099 --> 00:36:51.159 me as a kid and they didn't recognize me as an 00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:54.099 adult. And so in their brain, they always kind 00:36:54.099 --> 00:36:57.719 of put me back in where I was. 20 years older 00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:03.179 now, you know? And it's difficult with this idea 00:37:03.179 --> 00:37:04.539 of a prophet's not welcome in their hometown. 00:37:04.980 --> 00:37:06.539 It's not that they're not welcome, it's just 00:37:06.539 --> 00:37:09.500 sometimes they can't see where you've gone. And 00:37:09.500 --> 00:37:12.599 that doesn't mean that they're bad people, but 00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:14.440 maybe send a different prophet their way or a 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.869 different... person their way, and you go to 00:37:16.869 --> 00:37:18.670 people that will be able to see your growth. 00:37:18.929 --> 00:37:21.750 Yeah. To value where you've come and what God 00:37:21.750 --> 00:37:23.670 has done in your life, too. That's where I am 00:37:23.670 --> 00:37:26.090 now, and it's been incredibly valuable with the 00:37:26.090 --> 00:37:29.889 family that we're in. Yep. You know? That's pretty 00:37:29.889 --> 00:37:32.110 much it. I don't have a whole lot else to go 00:37:32.110 --> 00:37:35.889 on here except to sing you a goodbye song. Goodbye 00:37:35.889 --> 00:37:41.070 from Love and Context. Goodbye! I'm pretty sure 00:37:41.070 --> 00:37:45.099 you just copyrighted some. And that's a wrap 00:37:45.099 --> 00:37:47.800 for today's episode of Love and Context. 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