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Welcome to season three of Love in Context. This

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season, we're exploring the life of Jesus step

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-by -step and uncovering what his story teaches

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us about loving God and others. Here on Love

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in Context, we're all about having real conversations

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about how to live out that love in practical,

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everyday ways and understanding the Bible in

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its full context. We're so glad you're here.

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Let's dive into season three of Love in Context.

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All right, welcome back. Love and Context with

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Benjamin Edwards and Les Kronk. It's good to

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see you again. Good to be here, Ben. Yeah. And

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if you're on YouTube, you also will see him.

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And he is looking just as young as, honestly,

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as long as I've known you. I'm trying to stay

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that way. That's kind of not fair. I actually

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went to school with your kids. Yep. Yeah. So

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he looks good, doesn't he? Retired man. He's

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living the good life. Staying healthy. Yeah.

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I just do want to brag on you a little bit, though,

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because Les retires, and, like, as soon as he's

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retired, he has, like, 1 ,000 people coming after

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him for consulting gigs. Yep. So you know that

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you're good at your stuff, that the second you

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retire, they're like, hey, you want to work again?

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Yeah, well, it's not bad when they say, charge

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us whatever you want because we need you. There's

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an open door there. Yeah. You just have to be

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careful. Summer in Alaska, you cut into your

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fishing time. That's what I'm worried about right

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now, yes. So we've been in life of Jesus, and

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you were actually with me last week when we talked

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about John the Baptist preparing the way for

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Jesus, and we talked about baptism, we talked

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about mikvah, and so coming out of the Spirit,

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coming and descending on Jesus and remaining

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there, he goes out into the desert. Right. Right,

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and so there's going to be this portion of temptation.

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So I thought before we actually read the story,

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I'm going to give some high -level... cultural

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perspective things. And then we'll read through

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the story and have some conversation about it.

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Good. All right. So, uh, the wilderness in, uh,

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in Hebrew is, is mid bar, mid bar. And it's,

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um, I think I've talked to you about like Hebrew

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groupings that shepherd wilderness, God's voice.

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They're all going to be related in the same word

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family, uh, because you go to hear God's voice

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in the desert, in the desert. Right. Israel was

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tested, refined during their 40 years in the

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desert. And he talks about that. Moses talks

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about that in Deuteronomy. And I believe it's

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Hosea. God says to the prophet Hosea, he says,

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I led you like a bride in the desert. Right.

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So to God, this time is not the same as like

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we think of wandering in the desert. It's something

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significantly different. It's actually a time

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of getting to know God and about us knowing God

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and God knowing us. It's a time of stepping apart

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from the chaos of life into a quieter place.

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And if you think about, like we've talked about

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how Sinai is kind of like this wedding ceremony

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between Israel and God, right? The desert's their

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honeymoon, right? It's where you learn to trust

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each other. And sometimes not. That's not exactly

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what you'd think of as a honeymoon, the wilderness

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area. Matt, that's only because you live in Alaska.

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If you lived in Israel, you'd probably be like,

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yeah, let's go to the desert for our honeymoon.

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Probably. Oh, man. So it's a place of physical

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desolation, but spiritual dependence, right?

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That's the wilderness. So Jesus is going to spend

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40 days in the wilderness, and this is going

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to parallel to Israel's 40 years. I want to keep

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that in our heads because there's a lot of things

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that are going to be paralleling the Old Testament

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here. repeatedly I have said, and we've said

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through this podcast, Jesus is Torah made flesh.

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So there's going to be a million things going

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on in his life that are going to be echoes from

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Torah. It's one of the reasons we started our

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series in Torah before we got to Jesus. Because

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it makes this year so much easier. There's going

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to be connections to Moses and Elijah. Fasting

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for 40 days and finding themselves in the wilderness,

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which is also going to be important because Jesus

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is going to be stepping in as a second Moses.

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And people are also going to be like, are you

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Moses? Come back. Are you Elijah? Also Mount

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Transfiguration. Who's there with him? Yeah.

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Moses and Elijah. Yeah. These are pictures that

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are meant to be coming up over and over again.

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So in Jewish thought, the wilderness is a place

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of testing and purification, and it's a place

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of divine encounter and provision. such as manna

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in Exodus 16. And then Jesus' retreat echoes

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these themes of trial and encounter. Now, he's

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going to meet a guy in there we call the Satan,

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the devil, right? The Satan, by the way, it's

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interesting, in the Old Testament and most of

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the places that you find Satan's name in the

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scripture, it's not Satan, it's the Satan. The

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Satan. The Hebrew word Satan actually means adversary

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or accuser. Okay. Right? And so in the Old Testament,

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Satan appears in texts like Job 1 -2, Zechariah

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3, 1 -2, as a figure who tests the faithfulness

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of individuals. Now, by the second... I can speak.

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By the second temple period time, Satan was increasingly

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seen as a personalized figure of evil. This is

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really emphasized strongly in books like 1 Enoch.

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Okay. Right? But that is not necessarily the

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perspective in the Old Testament. The Satan is

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kind of like this. He's actually in the heavenly

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host, and his job is to go and accuse and test

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and see what people are doing. And that, by the

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way, that pushes up against like Christian ideology

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sometimes because people are like, oh, I don't

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know if I like that. I was like, well, that is

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what the thought was. And so you have to understand

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where the thought came from and how we got to

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where we are. And because of the Satan, so people

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would look at in Jewish tradition, righteous

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individuals were often tested by God or external

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forces to prove their faithfulness. So you have

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like... Abraham in Genesis 22, Job in Job, well,

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the book of Job, right? They're actually put

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in these positions to be faithful to God, and

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it's not always necessarily just because they're

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not having to prove something, but it's actually

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changing something in them. In them. Right? And

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this is something we're going to talk about as

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we go through here, is that trials, tests, are

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not about proving your worth. It's about actually

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increasing your worth. In other words, changing

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who you are and forming who you are and who God

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wants you to be. That's going to be really applicable

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later when James talks about consider it a pure

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joy whenever you face trials. Because these trials

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are actually going to help you become something

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you've never been. Right. Right? Which is difficult.

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It is a difficult time, but having experienced

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that, it takes you to where God wants you to

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be. Yeah. So all three of the Synoptic Gospels,

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Matthew, Mark, and Luke, are going to talk about

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this story. We're going to be reading out of

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Matthew. So if you want to check out Mark and

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Luke, there's small differences, once again,

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having to do with the linguistic and perspectives

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of what they're trying to talk about. All three

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of them talk about being led by the Spirit. And

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I think this is really important, especially

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when we talk about there are people who listen

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who are Pentecostal, non -Pentecostal. That's

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totally fine. But we all recognize that the Spirit

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does work. And I think that it's important to

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see. Jesus is baptized, the Holy Spirit comes

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and rests on him, and then from that moment,

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he's led by the Spirit. Right. Right? And so

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Jesus is led by the Spirit. All three Gospels

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say he's led by the Spirit to this place. Right?

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If Jesus Christ, God made flesh, thinks it's

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important to be led by the Spirit of God... How

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much more for us. Right, exactly. It becomes

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really important, like when you were here for

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prophetic, when we were talking about the prophetic,

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it was, why is it so important for us to hear

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the voice of God? Right. Right? Everything flows

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from that. Yeah. So let's jump in here. Let's

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read the story all the way through here. It's

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starting, I forget exactly where that is. It's

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Matthew chapter 4, starting in verse 1. Then

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Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness

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to be tempted by the devil. After fasting 40

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days and 40 nights, he was hungry. Imagine that.

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Yeah, I know, right? Listen, it would take me

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a lot less than 40 days and 40 nights. The tempter

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came to him and said, If you are the Son of God,

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tell these stones to become bread. Jesus answered,

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It is written, Man shall not live on bread alone,

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but on every word that comes from the mouth of

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God. Then the devil took him to the holy city

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and had him stand at the highest point of the

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temple. Real quick here. Where's the holy city

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for people listening? It's Jerusalem. So he's

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in Jerusalem. He has been transported to Jerusalem

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to the highest point of the temple. Right. Which,

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if you've seen the temple, is on top of the Holy

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of Holies. Yeah. Okay. Just helping people picture

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this. Foundation, yeah. So he's on the highest

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point of the temple. If you are the Son of God,

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he said, throw yourself down, for it is written,

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he will command the angels concerning you, and

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they will lift you up in their hands so that

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you will not strike your foot against a stone.

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Jesus answered him, it is also written, do not

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put the Lord your God to the test. Again, the

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devil took him to a very high mountain and showed

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him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

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All this I will give you, he said, if you will

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bow down and worship me. And Jesus said to him,

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Away from me, Satan, for it is written, Worship

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the Lord your God and serve him only. Then the

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devil left him and the angels came and attended

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him. All right. This is a short section with

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a ton of meaning. Yes. So I want to point out

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there's three places that he gets confronted.

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And so I want to specify something I was talking

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about earlier. I think that if you think the

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devil is a specific entity, that is entirely

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appropriate. But I also want to make sure that

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we're not misunderstanding what's going on in

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the Old Testament. That the role of the Satan

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is not just a name, it's a title. It's a title.

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In other words, his job is to accuse and to tempt.

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This is his job. And it's important for us to

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know that when we're actually running into these

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things because later they're going to say things

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like the devil's job is to come in. Still, kill,

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and destroy. Right? Because you're supposed to

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pull away from the character of God. It's to

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accuse you of being away from the character of

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God. Okay. So the Satan, Satan in this circumstance,

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the devil, goes and takes Jesus, and he first

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talks to him in a wilderness. So what do we say

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about wilderness? It's a place you go to meet

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God. It's a place you go to meet God. Right?

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Yep. Then he takes him to the top of the temple.

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The temple. Which is the place where heaven and

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earth intersect. Gotcha. Right? And then he takes

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him on a very high mountain. Have we ever heard

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of a very high mountain in the Old Testament

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before? I think there might have been one where

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some tablets were carved out. Yeah, and so these

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aren't accidental places. These are places of

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extreme significance, like the desert, the actual

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temple where heaven and earth meet, a very high

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mountain where you can see everything, but it's

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also somewhere close to where God is, right?

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Especially in ancient understanding. So Satan

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is actually taking Jesus to the most... Religious

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places. Religious sites. And so if we were to

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do that today, and I'm just trying to make up

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some things, so something that had extreme significance

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to believers today, let's say he took us to the

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Jordan River, right? And he took us to, well,

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probably still the temple area, right? The temple

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area. He'd take us to the empty tomb, take us

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to Calvary, right? Like these are places of extreme

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significance, right? And so the first thing he

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does is he talks to Jesus, who is hungry, totally

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tracks. Yep, totally does. What's the longest

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fast you've ever done? Zero food, 10 days. Yeah,

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I don't think I've ever even done 10 days. I

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think I did like five or six, and then I had

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to start eating basic food. I am weak. My will

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is much stronger, but my flesh is so much weaker.

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It's a challenge. It certainly is. I have not

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fasted ever for a significant period of time

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where you get like 20, 30, 40 days. But I have

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friends who have done that. And one of the things

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that they talk about is like, while physically

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you may not be strong, you actually gain a significant

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amount of mental clarity. You do, and I've fasted

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lengthy times for selected important items in

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your life. You find something that is a huge

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distraction in your life and set that aside,

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and it would be challenging for many people to

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put your phone down and not touch it for a while.

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There are things that really are distractions

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in our lives. How dare you look at my phone when

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you say that? They're great tools. Ben, you could

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put your phone down. I could. You're right. I

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could. And the reason I'm bringing this up is

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that it is not a moment of weakness. This is

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not a time of weakness that the devil comes to

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talk to Jesus. It's actually at the height of

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his strength, right? It's actually at the height

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of his strength that he comes and he actually

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engages him on this. But he immediately goes

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to a physical commodity, right? Now, in the wilderness,

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by the way, these three temptations is what I'm

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going to call them, tests. are actually mirroring

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tests that Israel went through in the desert

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and that ultimately they struggled with. God

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still had patience with them, but ultimately

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they struggled with and failed because they failed

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to trust God in those situations. And Jesus is

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coming in as Torah made flesh, as a representative

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of Israel, and he's going to flip this on its

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head. So the first thing is bread in the desert,

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hunger, thirst. We've talked about this a lot,

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but Israel really struggled with this one. They

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were hungry and they doubted his provision. Why

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did you lead us out into the desert so we're

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going to die? Right? And then so much that they're

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like, we should get rid of this Moses guy. It's

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his fault that we're here. He had it good back

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in Egypt. You remember that slavery back there?

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That was awesome. We had food. We had food. And

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nothing else. Yeah. You know? And ignore the

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fact, of course, that Pharaoh literally threw

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all of her baby boys into the river. Ignore the

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fact that we were only valued for what we could

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produce. Ignore the fact that they stopped giving

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us straw for bricks. Ignore all those things.

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I'll ignore those. The hard times, it seems easier

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to forget those. In those positions, when they

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grumbled, God provided manna, teaching Israel

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to rely on him daily. That's Exodus 16, by the

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way. Deuteronomy 8 .3, which is Moses' I'm going

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to call it final diatribe to the second generation

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that's going to go in and take the land, right?

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Reminding them of what has happened. He says,

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man does not live on bread alone. Remember this.

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Man doesn't live on bread alone, but by every

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word that proceeds from the mouth of God. All

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three of Jesus' responses are going to be from

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the book of Deuteronomy. I think that's significant

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because this is the declaration that Moses is

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giving to the people before they step into the...

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Promised land. And what is Jesus about to say?

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Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is here. Is

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here. You're about to step into something. Yeah.

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Right? And so Jesus quotes Deuteronomy 3, stepping

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into God's provision and refusing to use his

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divine power for self -sufficiency. And he steps

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in and succeeds or maybe elevates where Israel

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struggled. And I'm not going to say the word

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fails because I don't think that every time you

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mess up, it's a failure. Right. you will learn

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something about who God is and learn something

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about who you are with God. They struggled with

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manna. Yeah. But they ate manna and they learned

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the system and God provided and they got that.

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Yeah. But it was still a test. Yeah. It is, and

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it's interesting that Satan is testing Jesus

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with something that... God ultimately did. Now,

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of course, God didn't turn stones to bread. He's

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made bread come down from heaven, but it's a

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very similar thing. God provided bread in the

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desert. Now Satan is offering to provide bread

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in the desert. I feel like there's something

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that'll preach there, right? That just because

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it's offering you something that God also offers

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you doesn't mean that it's going to be good for

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you. Satan actually wasn't necessarily providing,

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offering bread in the desert. He was challenging

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Jesus to create it. Just like God created manna

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from heaven, he said, you can create bread from

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these stones. Did God really say? Right? Did

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God really say? Did God really say, going back

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to Genesis, didn't God say that you have the

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authority to turn stones into bread? Yeah. Come

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on, Satan. Yeah. Your tricks are getting old.

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Yep. Right? So the second thing, he goes and

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he takes them to the temple, and he challenges

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them to throw himself off, citing scripture.

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Citing the Psalms, which by the way, we've talked

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about this before, but Psalms, there is good

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theology in Psalms, but Psalms ultimately are

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an expression of love and adoration to God or

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expression of human emotion and worship to God,

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which means that sometimes there are things in

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the Psalms that shouldn't be taken literally

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as things you're supposed to do. I've gotten

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pushback on that, and I remind people that there

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is literally a psalm that ends with, happy is

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the man who gathers his children and bashes their

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heads against the rock. This is not a divine

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command for us to go and do. Not something literal.

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It is showing the gambit of human emotion from

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rage to love to adoration to lament, like all

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these different places that you have. And it

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is something that is necessary, and I think it

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is a necessary expression before God. I struggle

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sometimes in the way that we pray and talk to

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God because everything is always so polished.

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It's always so like refined, you know? And I

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remember, I remember I was praying one time and

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I was frustrated and I was like, we were praying

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with somebody and I was like, and God, I'm just

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pissed off about this. And somebody was like,

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well, you can't say that to God. I was like,

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yeah, cause he doesn't know. Yeah. right? You

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know what God wants to know is He wants to hear

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who, like, He wants me to be real, because He

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can do something with that. No, I'm totally that

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way. I've told God there's still, I will say,

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losses in my life, people that we've lost that

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I don't understand, you know? And I said, God,

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I'm still mad about that one. Doesn't mean, you

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know, I believe any less in God, but I'm mad

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about that, and I've told God I'm mad about it,

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but I also trust Him implicitly, and so I can

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let it go. We talked about this. Spencer and

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I, it was in our first season of our podcast.

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When James was four, he told me that I did not

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love him. And you know why I didn't love him?

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He had to brush his teeth. Yeah. He yelled and

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he screamed. He's like, you don't love me. You

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don't know what love is. And you know what? I

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was frustrated, but also I was like. You're still

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going to brush your teeth, bud. It's going to

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happen. And sometimes people, they have this

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idea that if you raise your voice at God, if

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you talk to him. And I was like, you know what

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the worst thing is, is when somebody is upset

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and they won't just talk to you and you know

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they're upset. Right. And like, I mean, you're

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a father. Wouldn't you rather your kids just

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talk to you even if they're upset? If you're

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arguing with God and yelling at God, at least

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you're talking to him and he'll listen and he'll

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respond. Yeah. So he quotes scripture, quotes

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the Psalms. I got off on a really long tangent

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there. It's easy to do. Good one though. He quotes

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the Psalms and he says, hey, Psalms says you

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can jump off this and you'll be fine. Well, at

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Manasseh in the book of Exodus, Israel tested

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God by demanding water and then complaining about

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the water that they did get. And then... This

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water tastes like a rock. This water tastes bitter.

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It tastes nasty, right? And so they're asking,

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they asked this question, they said, is the Lord

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really among us or not? That's 17 .7. Because

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they didn't like the water that they got. Is

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the Lord really here? Right. There's water coming

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out of this rock. Yeah. But is he really here?

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You know, and it's a struggle because like...

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God provided them water from the rock, but warned

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Israel against testing him. And Moses is going

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to recall this once again from Deuteronomy. This

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is where Jesus quotes from. He says, he recalls

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this failure. He says, you shall not put your

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God to the test as you did at Manasseh. Right?

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This is Deuteronomy 6 .16. Jesus steps into that

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same issue that Israel had. And he says, I'm

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not going to test God's care and provision. I

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know that it exists. I know that if I fell off

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of here, he's got my back. I don't need to do

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it to prove it to you. Right? And unlike Israel,

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Jesus trusts God without having to prove it.

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Quick, this is another rabbit trail, so it is

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what it is. At this point, they've been listening

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to me long enough, they know I'm going to get

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on a rabbit trail. It is, when we talk about

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God moving in prophetic and powerful ways, I

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don't know how many people have come that don't

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know Jesus, and they say, well, if he would just

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blank, right? Yep. I'd believe. Yeah. And then

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something dramatic happens in their life, and

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they're like, oh, man, lucky me. Yeah. Right.

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Right? And people always, they're like, well,

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you know, I want to tell a very specific story.

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And this is actually a good friend of mine who

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is actually in the process of learning how to

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follow Jesus now. But at the time, right over

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the head. Yeah. Right? They were hitting ends

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meet, and they did not have the money that they

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needed. in order to pay their rent. So they were

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in the process of getting moved out of their

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place and they were going to not have their place,

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you know, in two days. And they needed, um, I

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can't, it was like $250, which, you know, if

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you don't have any money is significant. That's

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a lot. Yeah. You know, and I called Tara and

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I said, Hey, I think we can step in and do this.

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I think we have the wiggle room in our budget

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to not put ourselves in trouble at this point.

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Um, this is by the way, when we were much younger.

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Um, and, and so I went and I said, Hey, um, this

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is for you. I don't want this back. Just go take

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care of what you got going on. And prior to actually

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coming to them, they said that they had prayed

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and asked God for help. And then they're like,

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I'm so glad you stepped in and did this. And

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I said, well, you should really thank God. They're

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like, well, God didn't do anything. Yeah. And

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I'm like, okay. Other than Inspire Ben. Other

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than Inspire Ben and Tara speak to us that we

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can step in and actually fill this gap. You're

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correct that God did not form money out of air,

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right? But he did use his people to go and do

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those things. And I think people sometimes forget

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the miraculous nature of hospitality and love,

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right? That's right. That's what we're here to

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show and share, and there's so many ways to do

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that. And I agree, and I was tempted to go down

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that similar rabbit trail when you brought that

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up, because I've seen too many cases where services...

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want to focus on signs and wonders to impress

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people with God. And I'm all about signs and

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wonders. Me too. No question, but... I've seen

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too many awesome things that God has done. Yeah,

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I've seen them, I've experienced them, felt them,

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and I know that, but that's not what it is to...

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It's not what changes lives. And well, in every

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sign and wonder, if it doesn't lead to... an

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invitation or a step into the kingdom of god

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like i mean it meets people's needs so i never

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want to pretend like it's wasted correct right

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because um paul's gonna say you planted a seed

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so and so watered so and so harvested like okay

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so regardless like you're you're doing the work

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yeah i was like but if if it's not if people

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are just seeking the gift and not the gift maker

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yeah right it's problematic yeah because the

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gift maker is inviting you to a different kind

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of life And the miracle and the prophetic is

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connecting you to that person. Yeah. And that

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person is going to radically change who you are.

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Yep. All right. So I just, by the way, I just

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love that Jesus actually says is he actually

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uses the Greek word. I'm going to have to read

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this really closely because I don't read Greek

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very well. Ekparazo. Ekparazo. That's how I'm

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going to say it. If somebody is a Greek reader

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and they're like, that's not right. Send me an

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email. I'm sorry. Yeah. But it actually means

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to provoke or challenge. And it's actually forbidden

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in Jewish theology. Okay. You can't provoke a

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challenge from people. So the devil doesn't actually

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just say, hey, he's actually provoking a challenge,

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similar to the Israelites going, prove it, God.

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Yeah, prove it. I know you just gave us bread

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from heaven. Prove it. Yeah. Which is just crazy.

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Exactly. It's like, you're going to prove this

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bread just came from heaven? Going back to this

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idea of people talking about, well, God just

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has to prove to me he exists. And I was like,

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you breathe in, you think, you reason, you have

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family, you have a life, you have a house that

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you sleep in, and you need God to prove it? Yeah.

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Come on, man. Yeah. You know? Sorry. Come on,

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dude. It could be. guy or gal. So I'll use dude,

00:25:39.450 --> 00:25:42.710
but that is gender neutral there. Yep. All right.

00:25:42.730 --> 00:25:45.349
So then we go to the third one and then Satan

00:25:45.349 --> 00:25:48.029
offers Jesus all the kingdoms of the world. If

00:25:48.029 --> 00:25:51.529
you will bow down and worship him. So this, we

00:25:51.529 --> 00:25:53.349
hinted at this earlier, this is going to connect

00:25:53.349 --> 00:25:57.549
to Sinai, very high mountain. And Israel struggles

00:25:57.549 --> 00:26:01.210
because I, when's the last time you read that

00:26:01.210 --> 00:26:03.470
story? It's interesting because God initially

00:26:03.470 --> 00:26:08.220
invites Israel to consecrate themselves. At Sinai.

00:26:08.259 --> 00:26:10.819
And then he says, okay, it's time for you to

00:26:10.819 --> 00:26:13.700
come up the mountain. And the people are afraid.

00:26:13.900 --> 00:26:16.640
Yeah. They see the thunder, they see the fire,

00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:18.339
and they're afraid, and so they don't want to

00:26:18.339 --> 00:26:22.039
go up the mountain. The invitation was always

00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:24.440
for all of Israel. All of them. All of them.

00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:27.759
They were afraid, and they said, hey, Moses,

00:26:28.019 --> 00:26:31.400
why don't you go up there? Right? Why don't you

00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:33.640
go up there? And then later they're going to

00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:35.779
complain, like, who made you mediator between

00:26:35.779 --> 00:26:39.460
us and God? Right. You did. You did. You did.

00:26:40.059 --> 00:26:42.339
You had the invitation to come up here, and you

00:26:42.339 --> 00:26:45.319
didn't. And you didn't. And you didn't. And because

00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:47.660
you didn't, Moses goes up the mountain, which,

00:26:47.700 --> 00:26:49.220
by the way, he's 80 years old at this point,

00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:53.099
which I just love this. He goes up this mountain,

00:26:53.180 --> 00:26:56.400
which is like a three -mile trek. And then he

00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:58.740
has to go. He receives the commandments. He's

00:26:58.740 --> 00:27:00.500
there for 40 days. Then he has to go down the

00:27:00.500 --> 00:27:02.000
mountain. He sees what's going on. He has to

00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:04.599
go back up the mountain to talk to God. And I'm

00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:06.640
like, poor Moses, man. He's going up and down

00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:08.559
this mountain like crazy. I'm planning on doing

00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:10.119
that when I'm 80, but we'll see. Yeah, we'll

00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:15.039
see. So they're like, we're too afraid. We're

00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:16.819
not going to go. You go up into the mountain.

00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.779
You speak to God, and we'll accept what you have

00:27:19.779 --> 00:27:21.900
to say. So they don't get to hear directly from

00:27:21.900 --> 00:27:23.940
God because they're not willing to go up the

00:27:23.940 --> 00:27:26.500
mountain. Right. They're too afraid. Boy, that'll

00:27:26.500 --> 00:27:28.880
preach all day. Yeah. Too afraid of the presence

00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:30.680
of God. Too afraid of the presence of God that

00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:32.400
I'm never going to actually hear from him. Yeah.

00:27:32.779 --> 00:27:35.039
And so a lot of times in our churches today,

00:27:35.099 --> 00:27:38.319
a lot of us hear revelation from pastors and

00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.279
from people who read the Bible and insight rather

00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.480
than ever actually learning to hear the voice

00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:45.759
of God ourself. Yeah. Which, by the way, I'm

00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:47.819
not doubting. Moses was still a great leader,

00:27:47.900 --> 00:27:49.839
had good things to say, important things to say.

00:27:49.940 --> 00:27:52.519
Yep. But God wanted his people to be in communion

00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.320
with him. That's right. And they said no. No,

00:27:56.320 --> 00:27:59.619
we're okay with that. So he's on the top of this

00:27:59.619 --> 00:28:02.980
mountain. And while Moses is up there, the people

00:28:02.980 --> 00:28:08.740
go, man, guy's been gone for a while. What are

00:28:08.740 --> 00:28:10.660
we going to do, Aaron? And he's like, well, I'll

00:28:10.660 --> 00:28:11.799
tell you what, bring me all your gold. And he

00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:13.880
throws it in the fire, crafts a calf. And he

00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:18.019
says, hey, this is the God who brought you out

00:28:18.019 --> 00:28:20.420
of Israel. After all the miracles that they've

00:28:20.420 --> 00:28:24.089
experienced and they lose. focused that quickly.

00:28:24.289 --> 00:28:26.269
They, at this point, they've walked through the

00:28:26.269 --> 00:28:29.369
Red Sea. They have received bread from heaven.

00:28:29.490 --> 00:28:31.309
They've received quail. They've received water

00:28:31.309 --> 00:28:33.690
from a rock. I believe at this point they've

00:28:33.690 --> 00:28:35.269
actually had a fight with the Amalekites and

00:28:35.269 --> 00:28:37.630
just whipped their butts. Yeah. Right? So they've

00:28:37.630 --> 00:28:40.250
done all of these things. With God. With God.

00:28:40.470 --> 00:28:42.230
And then they go there and then they heard the

00:28:42.230 --> 00:28:43.750
voice of God and they were so afraid of it they

00:28:43.750 --> 00:28:47.490
sent up Moses. And by the way, the thunder and

00:28:47.490 --> 00:28:49.210
stuff is still on the mountain. It hasn't gone

00:28:49.210 --> 00:28:51.230
anywhere. Right. They're still at the mountain

00:28:51.230 --> 00:28:55.210
and they go, Yeah, this thing that we created,

00:28:55.250 --> 00:28:58.369
this is what brought us out of Egypt. This thing

00:28:58.369 --> 00:29:03.650
that we created. Okay. Can we poke at some people?

00:29:03.890 --> 00:29:09.869
Oh, yeah, please. A lot of times there's a tendency

00:29:09.869 --> 00:29:12.490
when people are successful in work, right? Because

00:29:12.490 --> 00:29:14.029
you had a successful career. I would say that

00:29:14.029 --> 00:29:15.849
you had a very, very successful career where

00:29:15.849 --> 00:29:19.319
you say, you know, my life that I have. The fact

00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:21.460
that I can care for my kids, I can give to my

00:29:21.460 --> 00:29:24.819
community. It's something that I built. Yeah.

00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:28.799
Something that I did. Yep. I know, and I think

00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.859
you know, that every success we have is because

00:29:31.859 --> 00:29:34.940
God gave it to us. My success is because the

00:29:34.940 --> 00:29:37.019
relationship I had with the Lord. And because

00:29:37.019 --> 00:29:38.759
we took the things that God gave us and we put

00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:41.079
them into practice. Correct. Now, what I don't

00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:43.059
want to hear... take that because I think people

00:29:43.059 --> 00:29:45.339
take that snapshot and then they say, well, if

00:29:45.339 --> 00:29:47.440
I just go and trust the Lord, then I'm going

00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:50.099
to have success in business. No, you're going

00:29:50.099 --> 00:29:52.019
to have success into that which he calls you.

00:29:52.099 --> 00:29:55.660
Right. Right. It might be caring for the homeless.

00:29:56.099 --> 00:30:00.599
It might be parenting. It might be, you know,

00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:02.240
a good example. We have somebody in our church

00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:06.460
who does foster care. Right. And that might be

00:30:06.460 --> 00:30:08.579
your life. Yeah. Or you might be called to be

00:30:08.579 --> 00:30:11.200
the best barista in the world. Right. Somebody

00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.500
who shares the love of Jesus and the Holy Spirit

00:30:13.500 --> 00:30:15.819
with every cup of coffee you pour. And that was

00:30:15.819 --> 00:30:17.900
the key. I would just reflect on my own career.

00:30:18.220 --> 00:30:21.500
I was in management of a lot of people, but my

00:30:21.500 --> 00:30:27.480
focus wasn't on necessarily all the big picture

00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:29.599
management. It was helping each individual be

00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.709
successful in who they were created to be. and

00:30:32.709 --> 00:30:35.990
helping them excel, because as they grew and

00:30:35.990 --> 00:30:38.650
gained confidence, I always joked and said, it

00:30:38.650 --> 00:30:40.190
makes my life easier. If you guys all do a great

00:30:40.190 --> 00:30:42.210
job, then my job as a manager is much easier.

00:30:42.869 --> 00:30:45.809
Well, and so Satan takes him up here, and he

00:30:45.809 --> 00:30:48.150
confronts Jesus with something that, by the way,

00:30:48.190 --> 00:30:50.029
I feel like we don't realize how often we're

00:30:50.029 --> 00:30:53.240
actually confronted with this. Worship me. Turn

00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:58.319
your attention to me. Bow your head to me. Whether

00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:01.500
it be your job, your insurance that takes care

00:31:01.500 --> 00:31:03.920
of your health, your 401k plan, I don't care

00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.079
what it is. Even your family can become this,

00:31:07.180 --> 00:31:09.200
right? Because you place them above God rather

00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:12.380
than God to them. And he says, if you do this,

00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:16.259
man, you're gonna have everything in the garden.

00:31:16.779 --> 00:31:18.779
Now, if you eat that food, you'll be like God.

00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:24.710
Adam and Eve, you're already Like God. You know

00:31:24.710 --> 00:31:26.849
what's good, you know what's evil, and you're

00:31:26.849 --> 00:31:30.069
made in his image. You just don't get to define

00:31:30.069 --> 00:31:33.450
for yourself what's good and evil. Right. If

00:31:33.450 --> 00:31:35.569
you bow down and worship me, Jesus, you'll have

00:31:35.569 --> 00:31:40.170
everything. I already have everything. Yeah.

00:31:40.890 --> 00:31:45.069
And because of that, I bow down and give praise

00:31:45.069 --> 00:31:48.150
to the Father. Right. And I worship him only.

00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.220
Thou shalt have no other gods than me. Because

00:31:51.220 --> 00:31:54.619
I know everything comes from him. Every single

00:31:54.619 --> 00:31:57.819
thing. Every breath, every tear, every laugh,

00:31:58.019 --> 00:32:01.319
every cry. It's all sustained inside of the world

00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:05.220
that he spoke into existence. Right? Now, of

00:32:05.220 --> 00:32:06.579
course, Jesus cheats a little bit because he

00:32:06.579 --> 00:32:10.880
was there. Yeah. He really knows. He's not interpreting

00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:12.940
this. He's not interpreting this. He was there.

00:32:13.779 --> 00:32:19.720
But he says, go away, Satan. Yeah. It's written,

00:32:19.819 --> 00:32:24.380
Deuteronomy. Moses knowing this. Worship the

00:32:24.380 --> 00:32:28.720
Lord your God only. And serve him only. Because

00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.339
if you don't get this right, nothing else is

00:32:31.339 --> 00:32:35.279
going to be right. Period. In the Roman Empire,

00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.039
earthly power was often tied to worshiping pagan

00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:40.180
gods or an emperor. The Greek word for worship

00:32:40.180 --> 00:32:44.789
here is proskunio. It means to bow down, symbolizing

00:32:44.789 --> 00:32:48.609
submission. And Jesus' refusal emphasizes that

00:32:48.609 --> 00:32:51.450
worship belongs only to God. By the way, this

00:32:51.450 --> 00:32:53.369
is not the last time Jesus is going to say something

00:32:53.369 --> 00:32:54.990
like this. It's just not going to be about Satan

00:32:54.990 --> 00:32:56.769
next time. It's going to be about Rome. Yeah.

00:32:57.190 --> 00:32:59.029
He's going to take a coin. He says, whose inscription

00:32:59.029 --> 00:33:02.730
is on this? Right. Why don't you give to Rome

00:33:02.730 --> 00:33:06.769
what's Rome? By the way, never give to Rome what's

00:33:06.769 --> 00:33:11.480
God's, which is you. Powerful. Powerful statement.

00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.940
Yep. Real powerful. So after this, the, uh, after

00:33:14.940 --> 00:33:16.460
these three temptations, the angels come and

00:33:16.460 --> 00:33:18.559
they minister to Jesus. Um, by the way, this

00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:20.640
is a great connection back to Elijah being cared

00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:23.779
for after, uh, Mount Carmel. Yep. Right. Exactly.

00:33:23.859 --> 00:33:26.740
Um, in his case though, he's, uh, he's hungry

00:33:26.740 --> 00:33:28.640
and he's depressed and he's like, Oh, what's

00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.160
holding me? And he's like, tell you what, Elijah,

00:33:31.220 --> 00:33:34.519
take a nap. Have a snack. It will be okay. Have

00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:38.640
a cookie and a nap. Cookie and a nap. That's

00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:43.660
a grandpa speaking right there. Oh, man. The

00:33:43.660 --> 00:33:46.779
Malakim, which is the Hebrew for the angels,

00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:49.180
are understood in Jewish tradition to be God's

00:33:49.180 --> 00:33:51.200
messengers who step in and help people in times

00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:57.019
of need. let's talk about like what I think are

00:33:57.019 --> 00:33:59.359
three big takeaways in here. Three, three big

00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.900
takeaways. Jesus steps in here in this conversation

00:34:02.900 --> 00:34:07.539
as a, as a second and he's a second Adam, right?

00:34:07.619 --> 00:34:09.480
Right. There's a lot of these mirroring from

00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:12.940
the garden, right? He is the second Moses and

00:34:12.940 --> 00:34:16.820
Israel, right? He is like, in a lot of cases,

00:34:16.820 --> 00:34:19.280
like a second David, right? He's stepping in

00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.019
and he's the second, like he's the greater of.

00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.300
That's what the book of Hebrews is going to talk

00:34:23.300 --> 00:34:29.090
about a lot. Adam was tempted in a lush garden.

00:34:29.329 --> 00:34:31.329
Jesus, though, was tempted in a barren wasteland.

00:34:31.429 --> 00:34:36.789
Right. Right. But like Deuteronomy says, like

00:34:36.789 --> 00:34:39.369
Israel did, Jesus goes in the desert. He confronts

00:34:39.369 --> 00:34:41.769
the devil, takes three tests and says, no, that's

00:34:41.769 --> 00:34:44.389
not who we're going to be. Yeah. That is not

00:34:44.389 --> 00:34:46.250
who we're going to be, nor who God wants us to

00:34:46.250 --> 00:34:50.650
be. That's how we're supposed to come out of

00:34:50.650 --> 00:34:53.190
the desert. And each of us has a wilderness at

00:34:53.190 --> 00:34:56.170
some point in our lives. And understanding the

00:34:56.170 --> 00:34:58.750
purpose of that wilderness is so key with God.

00:34:59.550 --> 00:35:02.289
And it's not necessarily hard times. It's quiet

00:35:02.289 --> 00:35:05.150
times. There's so many different facets of what

00:35:05.150 --> 00:35:08.670
we could see as a wilderness in our lives. Sometimes

00:35:08.670 --> 00:35:11.090
I wonder about this story. I was like, this story,

00:35:11.210 --> 00:35:15.309
yes, it parallels Israel. what is this for Jesus?

00:35:15.489 --> 00:35:17.809
Because like we talked about, he has to grow

00:35:17.809 --> 00:35:20.909
in knowledge and favor, just like anybody else.

00:35:21.510 --> 00:35:24.289
That is this experience when he steps out, he's

00:35:24.289 --> 00:35:27.550
like, he already knows, but now he experientially

00:35:27.550 --> 00:35:29.650
knows what it means to stand against temptation.

00:35:29.849 --> 00:35:32.809
Yeah. Right? Right. Like to stand in the face

00:35:32.809 --> 00:35:36.150
of something like the devil, the accuser, a heavenly

00:35:36.150 --> 00:35:37.949
host of some capacity that we don't completely

00:35:37.949 --> 00:35:41.199
understand. Right. Right? Somebody who is like

00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:44.119
their entire being is around testing whether

00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.340
or not you actually mean what you say you mean.

00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:48.880
And being very, having thousands of years of

00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:52.079
practice of tricking people. Yep. And testing

00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:57.579
people. Yep. He was good at it. He was good at

00:35:57.579 --> 00:36:00.980
it. Still is. Yep. In fact, one of the things

00:36:00.980 --> 00:36:03.619
that I was, the second takeaway is actually that

00:36:03.619 --> 00:36:06.760
the devil misuses scripture, which by the way,

00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.880
still happens today. Very much. It's why knowing

00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:13.260
the voice of God and knowing your Bible and then

00:36:13.260 --> 00:36:16.199
the narrative of what God teaches is really important.

00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:18.960
In context. In context. That's where so many

00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:20.599
misunderstandings come from. And I think you've

00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:24.139
done a very good job in this podcast and other

00:36:24.139 --> 00:36:29.750
teachings on... building that context. No! That's

00:36:29.750 --> 00:36:33.170
very important. I'll take it. Well, and it's

00:36:33.170 --> 00:36:36.190
such a difficult thing because I was having this

00:36:36.190 --> 00:36:38.389
conversation, and I think I wrote about it in

00:36:38.389 --> 00:36:42.570
something. But when you start with the premise

00:36:42.570 --> 00:36:45.949
that God is angry, you're going to massively

00:36:45.949 --> 00:36:48.889
misread Torah. Now, I don't want to misspeak

00:36:48.889 --> 00:36:50.909
because there are portions in Torah where God

00:36:50.909 --> 00:36:53.579
gets real frustrated. Real frustrated. But the

00:36:53.579 --> 00:36:56.019
overall narrative throughout Torah is that God

00:36:56.019 --> 00:36:58.280
loves his people. The overall narrative of the

00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.480
Old Testament is God loves his people. And his

00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:04.960
patience endures like decades. And there's so

00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.639
many cases of forgiveness and repentance and

00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:11.420
patience on God's part that he just continually

00:37:11.420 --> 00:37:14.880
brings Israel back to himself. It's crazy. Sometimes

00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:16.539
people will be like, well, yeah, but there was

00:37:16.539 --> 00:37:18.380
this king and then this king that he dealt with.

00:37:18.460 --> 00:37:21.059
And I was like, those were 40 years apart. Yeah.

00:37:22.190 --> 00:37:24.909
It sounds to me like God has a lot of patience

00:37:24.909 --> 00:37:28.070
and love. It's almost like that whole thing of

00:37:28.070 --> 00:37:30.309
love to a thousand generations and punishing

00:37:30.309 --> 00:37:33.010
to the third. A thousand is a lot bigger than

00:37:33.010 --> 00:37:35.110
three. It sure is. It's significantly bigger

00:37:35.110 --> 00:37:39.369
than three. But Satan preys on not only things,

00:37:39.510 --> 00:37:42.309
and I was going to say accusation, temptation,

00:37:42.650 --> 00:37:49.449
preys on things that are desires, right? Oh,

00:37:49.469 --> 00:37:52.659
yeah. Physical. Power, emotional, spiritual.

00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:56.980
But beyond that, it often uses things that we

00:37:56.980 --> 00:38:00.739
are quasi -familiar with. Right. And it's just

00:38:00.739 --> 00:38:04.179
twisted enough. Yeah. Right? Now, the flip side

00:38:04.179 --> 00:38:07.219
of that that I think is worth mentioning just

00:38:07.219 --> 00:38:10.480
briefly is that every person who does not view

00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:12.780
Scripture the exact same as you is not the Satan.

00:38:13.059 --> 00:38:17.409
Correct. Right? It's okay to have some disagreements.

00:38:18.030 --> 00:38:20.809
There's a reason why we talk about things show

00:38:20.809 --> 00:38:23.849
up in like a creed, for example. Like these things

00:38:23.849 --> 00:38:27.409
are really important. But outside of that, everybody

00:38:27.409 --> 00:38:29.250
has different experiences with God. Everybody

00:38:29.250 --> 00:38:31.130
encounters his word differently. And also God

00:38:31.130 --> 00:38:33.090
works differently in all of us. He sure does.

00:38:33.150 --> 00:38:36.170
That we have a way to find unity in spite of

00:38:36.170 --> 00:38:38.230
the fact that we don't agree. Correct. Right?

00:38:38.409 --> 00:38:42.670
That's huge. The last thing here is it says that...

00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:45.880
I want to talk about the fact that this is not

00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:47.619
an isolated event where Jesus is going to do

00:38:47.619 --> 00:38:50.059
what the devil wants and it's gone. It says that

00:38:50.059 --> 00:38:52.920
he leaves him for another opportune time. That's

00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.980
actually in Luke. Oh. Right? Luke 4 .13, it says

00:38:55.980 --> 00:38:57.980
the devil leaves him for a more opportune time.

00:38:58.219 --> 00:39:03.420
Right. When would that be? I don't know. Crucifixion

00:39:03.420 --> 00:39:05.159
is definitely going to be one. Yeah. You know,

00:39:05.219 --> 00:39:07.420
it turns out that when you're being beaten and

00:39:07.420 --> 00:39:10.800
whipped and nails through your wrist and can't

00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:12.699
breathe, that's... Probably a time that you're

00:39:12.699 --> 00:39:14.599
not thinking straight. Yeah. It's an easy time

00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:19.400
to be tempted. And yet on the cross, we talked

00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.059
about this. You and I preached together before

00:39:22.059 --> 00:39:25.860
Easter. Jesus preached a sermon through quoting

00:39:25.860 --> 00:39:29.800
the text. Yeah. Quoting Psalms. Yeah. The Son

00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:33.780
of God in his crucifixion quotes a Psalm. Yeah.

00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:36.000
But it's not a Psalm of testing. It's a Psalm

00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.239
of deliverance. Deliverance. Yeah. Yeah. That's

00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.599
cool. Yeah. So much so. Just thought about that

00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:45.619
just now. Yep. So I think the, like for us is

00:39:45.619 --> 00:39:47.519
like recognizing that when we trust Jesus, we're

00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:49.159
stepping into something greater than ourselves.

00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:51.820
Right. And we're trusting something greater than

00:39:51.820 --> 00:39:53.659
ourselves. We're not, we're trusting his finished

00:39:53.659 --> 00:39:55.920
work, his complete work. We don't have to complete

00:39:55.920 --> 00:40:00.750
it. We just walk in his step. Right. But temptation

00:40:00.750 --> 00:40:02.289
and the things around us are going to try to

00:40:02.289 --> 00:40:04.010
get us off track, are going to use things that

00:40:04.010 --> 00:40:05.550
are familiar with us, even up to the Word of

00:40:05.550 --> 00:40:07.869
God. Yes. One of the things I think is interesting,

00:40:07.949 --> 00:40:10.030
since I started posting this podcast and blogs

00:40:10.030 --> 00:40:11.849
and different things that I've been doing, I

00:40:11.849 --> 00:40:16.190
get a lot of reels of Christians, right? And

00:40:16.190 --> 00:40:18.690
the things some of these people say about each

00:40:18.690 --> 00:40:20.789
other. Yeah. I was like, man, take a breath.

00:40:21.110 --> 00:40:23.449
That's right. That's not what Christianity is

00:40:23.449 --> 00:40:26.909
supposed to be about. It's not at all. It's amazing

00:40:26.909 --> 00:40:28.869
how often people think that they need to defend

00:40:28.869 --> 00:40:31.900
God. Yeah. He's been doing it just fine. He literally

00:40:31.900 --> 00:40:33.539
spoke it all into existence. He doesn't need

00:40:33.539 --> 00:40:37.940
you to defend him. Right. The last rabbit trail,

00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:42.000
I promise. Sometimes James, my oldest, will try

00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:47.039
to defend me to my youngest. Okay. Right? No,

00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.739
dad told you not to do that. Dude, I got this.

00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:53.340
Right. You don't need to step in. I got this.

00:40:53.420 --> 00:40:56.000
I got this. You know? You know that from raising

00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.119
kids. I sure do. You're like, no, you don't need

00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.960
to micromanage them. I got this. I am in full

00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.579
control of what's going on here. Right. But you

00:41:03.579 --> 00:41:06.300
don't understand. They're doing this. No. I got

00:41:06.300 --> 00:41:09.659
it, kid. Yeah. I got it. We're good. I can fix

00:41:09.659 --> 00:41:12.300
this one, God. Just listen to me. That's our

00:41:12.300 --> 00:41:15.659
story. Oh, man. And then the last thing is, is

00:41:15.659 --> 00:41:18.219
that as you follow Jesus, there's going to be

00:41:18.219 --> 00:41:20.380
situations where you're going to completely nail

00:41:20.380 --> 00:41:23.739
it. In the desert. Yep. And there's going to

00:41:23.739 --> 00:41:25.159
be other times where you completely botch it

00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:29.699
in the desert. But one of the encouragements

00:41:29.699 --> 00:41:33.380
we have from Israel is they got mad at Marah,

00:41:33.380 --> 00:41:38.360
but he gave them water at Elim. Yeah. They didn't

00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:40.539
trust him in the bread, so he gave them bread

00:41:40.539 --> 00:41:44.199
and quail. Right. They didn't, you know, and

00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:48.480
there was the golden calf, and Moses comes down

00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:50.760
and he... breaks the commandments. When he goes

00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:55.280
back up, God makes him new tablets. Yeah. God's

00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.400
patience is great. He's a God of redemption.

00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:01.900
Yeah. He's a God who, and when you're walking

00:42:01.900 --> 00:42:03.559
as a kid after him, you're going to trip and

00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:05.119
fall. And he's like, all right, I got you, bud.

00:42:05.219 --> 00:42:07.440
Let's stand up. Yeah. The only thing I'm not

00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:08.820
going to let you do is sit there and wallow in

00:42:08.820 --> 00:42:10.960
your, in your pity. And that's so huge. Cause

00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:12.860
that's, that's where we struggle the most as

00:42:12.860 --> 00:42:16.039
we, we make mistakes sometimes continually and

00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:21.260
we lose, trust in that forgiveness. We just think,

00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:26.239
because as a human, I don't have that level of

00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:28.760
forgiveness that God does unless I lean on him.

00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:33.380
And it's been challenging. God will push that.

00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:36.260
I definitely have a lot more love and forgiveness

00:42:36.260 --> 00:42:38.920
for my kids than I do for my brothers. Yep. Yeah,

00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:40.860
and I love my brothers, but let's be honest.

00:42:40.940 --> 00:42:42.739
We got more love and forgiveness for our kids

00:42:42.739 --> 00:42:45.519
than we do for our brothers. Yep, yep. But following

00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.519
Jesus means having the same love that he has

00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:49.840
for us for each other. For each other. Whew,

00:42:49.980 --> 00:42:52.690
that's a tall order. It's a big one. All right.

00:42:52.730 --> 00:42:54.829
Well, I think we'll, we'll close it there. And

00:42:54.829 --> 00:42:57.269
I appreciate you being here again, uh, sharing

00:42:57.269 --> 00:42:59.449
with us from your, from your schedule. Uh, once

00:42:59.449 --> 00:43:01.070
again, I'm gonna let people know if you are listening,

00:43:01.150 --> 00:43:03.329
I do have a book coming out in May 15th. It's

00:43:03.329 --> 00:43:05.349
probably out now because I think this one's not

00:43:05.349 --> 00:43:07.250
going to post to like June something. So May

00:43:07.250 --> 00:43:10.769
15th, it was released, uh, hardback softback

00:43:10.769 --> 00:43:13.269
and audible. And I'm looking, I might post it

00:43:13.269 --> 00:43:15.309
on Spotify too. Uh, I have the rights to do that.

00:43:15.369 --> 00:43:19.519
So, um, but the, uh, But, yeah, so beautiful

00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.420
chaos, infinite love, talking about raising kids

00:43:22.420 --> 00:43:25.840
and understanding that, oh, snap, I might be

00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:28.300
God's kid. Yeah. Right? And this is way different

00:43:28.300 --> 00:43:29.239
than I thought. And there's a lot of parallels.

00:43:29.460 --> 00:43:31.920
A lot of parallels. A lot of parallels. And,

00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:34.260
oh, one more fun thing, and this is probably

00:43:34.260 --> 00:43:36.139
going to be in the next couple of months, but

00:43:36.139 --> 00:43:39.679
Spencer and I. teased earlier that we were turning

00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:42.940
our Torah series into a series of books. The

00:43:42.940 --> 00:43:45.360
Genesis one is done. Uh, we've been proofreading

00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.820
it and, uh, that'll probably get released in

00:43:47.820 --> 00:43:49.760
the next few months if people want to go and

00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:51.340
engage that a different way. If some people are

00:43:51.340 --> 00:43:53.300
like, man, your audio originally was not very

00:43:53.300 --> 00:43:56.139
good. Yeah. Read the book, read the book. Now,

00:43:56.219 --> 00:43:58.820
the funny thing is about that is that, uh, the

00:43:58.820 --> 00:44:00.880
next step is actually to record the audio book

00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:04.420
of a book that I wrote from the podcast dialogue,

00:44:04.699 --> 00:44:07.820
which is just, it feels like, at some point,

00:44:07.820 --> 00:44:10.559
like Inception, right? Yep. Yeah. And I'm reading

00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:14.519
that book, and I will highly recommend it. Ben

00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:20.039
does an excellent job of a very encouraging explanation

00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.599
of things that we don't all understand in Torah.

00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.300
Yeah. All right, guys, you have a good one, and

00:44:25.300 --> 00:44:28.219
we'll see you next week. Well, you'll see us

00:44:28.219 --> 00:44:31.900
next week. We won't see you. And that's a wrap

00:44:31.900 --> 00:44:34.599
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