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Season two of Love in Context podcast welcomes you. Get ready for engaging unscripted conversations

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with your hosts, Ben and Spencer. Our mission remains unchanged to explore the Bible through

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the powerful lens of love. In this new season, we'll embark on a journey together, unearthing

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fresh insights and gaining deeper understanding of how we can love God and live out our faith

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in practical ways. So let's dive into this season of Love in Context, where love in the

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context of the Bible intersect to transform our lives.

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All right, everyone. Welcome back. Podcast. Exactly. Podcasting. Yeah. We're going to

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if Pastor Nick was here, we would play the game of how many times would he mispronounce

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Melchizedek or how many different ways or how many different ways. I have a counter

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going on the screen. Yeah. And there'd be and there'd be like he's come up some creative

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pronunciations for some names in the Bible. When Pastor Sarah was on with us one time,

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I think I made a counter of how many times she rolled her eyes at us. Yeah, I stopped

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at like nine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's one time where I think it was you and Pastor Nick

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were preaching and then Pastor Nick said something horribly wrong. And you're like, wait, how

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do you say that? He was like, no. I was like, can you say that again for me, please? And

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he's like, no, movie. I don't remember what it was, but he just moved on. One of the one

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of the things we were preaching one time on acts two. And I was reading the part where

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it says, you know, the fire came down and I was resting on the people and they were

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they were prophesying and like all those different things. And I got to the part where it says

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where the nations were that they're all from. I was like, hey, Pastor Nick, can you take

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over right there? And he's like, yeah, no, no, I'm going to skip over that. So it was

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it's a it's a game I like to play with him. It's a fun one. OK, so this series, this little

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mini series, and this is by the way, this mini series is going to cap off season two

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is Kings and Kingdoms. Yes, Kings and Kingdoms. And specifically, we're dealing with the kings

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that are not Israel's kings. Yes. Right. So the first week we're going to be talking about

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this guy by the name of Melchizedek. Right. And we're going to talk about a number of

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different kings all the way into into the New Testament, the kings during the time of

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Jesus. Yeah. Right. But it's really important for us as Christians to see what's going on

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in history, especially as as the people of God are in places where there are non God

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influences. And specifically, how do they exist in in this context? You think about

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people like Daniel existing in a foreign land. Right. And how does he live in the middle

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of that? And the people of Israel when they're in Egypt and they have kings around them,

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how do they exist in the middle of this? You know, and what are the what are these kings

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and what is their influence in the middle of all of these different situations? Right.

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You just rolled your eyes. So your eyes got so big. I'm tired. He got he got scared is

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what happened. Tired, man. Yeah. I didn't sleep much. Tired. So the first figure that

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we talked about that shows up, that is this random king that shows up in the Book of Genesis.

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Right. And once again, we want to talk last week at the end of the Covenant series, we

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talked about these small bands of king like kingdoms, right, three or four hundred people,

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maybe a thousand people, two thousand people. Right. Not kingdoms. Twenty million people

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like a tribe, more like a tribe. And there's not a lot said about him. No, no, there is

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not a lot said about this guy. So if you are a Hebrew speaker and I'm saying Melchizedek

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incorrectly, I apologize. But that's how I'm going to continue to say it. But he's a he's

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actually a significant figure, though, even though he's barely mentioned, because he's

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talked about in the New Testament in the Book of Hebrews. And it's going to be really important.

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But first, we're going to talk about him in the Old Testament, where he shows up. So if

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you look in Genesis, Chapter 14, he shows up in this story where a lot has been captured

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with a bunch of other people by by a king. And he goes, Abram goes and he rescues him

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and he brings him back. Right. It says in verse 18, says, Then Melchizedek, king of

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Salem, brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God most high. And he blessed Abram

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saying, Blessed be Abram by God most high, creator of heaven and earth, and praise be

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God most high, who delivered your enemies into their hand. Then Abraham gave him a tenth

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of everything. Now, why is that story really interesting in a number of different facets?

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I'm going to tell you one thing that I found that I found incredibly interesting about

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this. If you just lift verse 18 through 20, and you take it completely out of the Book

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of Genesis, you wouldn't even notice that it's missing. Let me let me show you this.

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So I'm going to go verse 17. After Abram returned from defeating Kendal, Larimer. Yeah. Speaking

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of you had nailed it. And the king's allied with in the kings of Sodom came out to meet

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him in the Valley of Sheva. That is the King's Valley. The king of Sodom said to Abram, give

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me the give me the people and keep the goods for yourself. But Abram said to the king of

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Sodom with raised hand, I have sworn an oath to the Lord God most high, creator of heaven

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and earth, that I will accept nothing belonging to you. Okay. Did you even notice that there

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was two verses missing? This could be missing and we wouldn't even know about it. So then

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you ask, okay, well, why is this verse in here? And I think because God's like, hey,

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I'm going to put something in here that's really important later. Right. I just found

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that really interesting when you're in this is like you could literally cut this out of

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the text and it wouldn't even seem like it's there. Like it doesn't even narratively quite

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fit. Yeah. Is this these texts actually seem like an inconvenience to the story. Yeah.

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It almost seems like the Bible's going out of its way to insert it, which then should

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make you as a Hebrew as a Hebrew Bible reader go ding, ding, ding, ding. Something important

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is happening right here. Right. Because when it seems like it's an accident, it's not.

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Yeah. So one of the first things that's mentioned is where he's from. Yeah. Because the deck

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is from Salem and listeners, can you, do you know what that's also identified as? Question

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mark. Wait for it. It's often identified as Jerusalem. So you have essentially the king

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of what was old school Jerusalem back in the day before Israel was there. Okay. And a priest

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of God's most of God most high. This is really interesting because it's like, okay, how does

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he know this? How does he know God? Yeah. Okay. So it's soup. Yeah. It's really weird because

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God hasn't given them his name yet. Yeah. Right. Abram. He's like, I just follow God.

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And it's a different word that's being used, but he says God most high. And by the way,

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this is how they later refer to God in the old Testament. Right. So this guy had some

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sort of a very least connection to God. Right. Right. And we don't, we don't know what that

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is. Well, we know he's a high priest. Yeah. Right. We know he's a king and he's a high

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priest, but he is a high king, priest and a king of God most high. Well, here's, here's

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the problem. This is, this is one of the issues that I have sometimes with the way that we

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read the Bible is we get definitive black and white statements and then God loves to

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open up the box and be like, Hey, how's that working out for you? You know, little Dr.

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Phil, how's that working out for you? So like one of the things this does do though is it

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shows that God was having interactions with people outside of the given text. Right. Right.

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Cause a lot of times we read the texts and like, these are the people that God had interactions

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with up through the time of Jesus. And now it's open to everyone. It's like, well, no,

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like we have this guy on his deck who has a connection to God through reading the text,

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you could argue has a relationship with God. Right. But all we know about him is that he's

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king of Salem. He's a priest and he blesses Abraham. Yeah. Let me read that blessing again.

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It says, blessed be Abraham by God most high creator of heaven and earth and praise be

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to God most high who delivered your enemies into your hand. Then Abraham gave him a 10th

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of everything. By the way, a lot of people based their tithing off of this passage. Yep.

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Just throwing that out there. Right. Yeah. And there's also a foreshadowing of the Eucharist.

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There's so much going on. Right. Cause they sit down for bread and wine. Yeah. He gives

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the best bread and wine that he has. He offers that. And so which foreshadows lo and behold,

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the last supper. Yeah. Which also ties back into jumping ahead a little bit to Hebrews

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where Jesus is referred as the high priest in the line of milk is deck. Yes. We're going

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to pause, pause on that only briefly because there's a broader context we want to bring

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into into that. Um, he has mentioned somewhere else in the Bible. It's actually in some one

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10 and verse four, but I'm just going to read the whole song cause it's not very long. Uh,

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it's David by the right way, writing this song. The Lord says to my Lord, sit at my

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right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet. The Lord will extend your mighty

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scepter from the Zion saying rule in the midst of your enemies. Your troops will be willing

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on your day of battle, a raid and holy splendor. Your young men will, will come to you like

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dew from the mother's womb. The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind. You are a priest

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forever in the order of Melchizedek. The Lord is at your right hand. He will crush the Kings

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on the day of his wrath. He will judge the nations, heaping up the dead and crushing

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the rulers of the whole earth. He will drink from a brook along the way and he will lift

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his head high. Now, now if you hear the first, first, first of this thing, does it spike

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any conversation Jesus has had with the Pharisees? The Lord says to my Lord, right? Because the

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Pharisees in the, in the new Testament, we're going to be talking about a lot of these stories

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next season, right? And we're going to come back to this again. Jesus quotes from a Psalm

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talking about Melchizedek, who then the writer of Hebrews is later going to say that Jesus

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is a high priest in the order of Melchizedek with Jesus quoting from Melchizedek back in

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Genesis, right? Just loving this. Well, and tied a little bit further, Jesus is in the

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line. He comes from the line of David, who in the song is a King in the order of Melchizedek.

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Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of, a lot of really interesting, basically I got some questions

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when I get to heaven about who Melchizedek actually is, you know, and it's, it's a really

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interesting thing. So then what ends up happening in the, in the new Testament is to Spencer's

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point in Hebrews five through seven, they're going to be having this conversation about

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how Jesus is the high priest in heaven the same way. And that he is the temple in heaven

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and he has the sacrifice in heaven. Like he's all of these things in heaven, the same way

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we have these systems on earth, right? That he has now taken this to the throne room of

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God. And, but then to the Hebrews, because they're going to really struggle with, well,

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how can you be a high priest if you're not from Aaron's lineage? And they're like, haven't

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you read Genesis? There was a high priest before that. He's a high priest in the order

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of Melchizedek. And then they're like, if you don't believe that, let's quote from Psalms

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and talk about that. Right. And let's talk about how the fact that Jesus is quoting this

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to them and saying that there is a greater priesthood than the priesthood of Aaron, which

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by the way, would have been scandalous in his day. Right. Because the priesthood of

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Aaron is a big deal. We went through Torah priesthood of Aaron is a very big deal, but

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Jesus is not part of the priesthood of Aaron because the priesthood of Aaron wasn't perfect.

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It was flawed. And yet there was a priesthood that was never flawed, probably because we

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don't know enough about it. Right. In the line of Melchizedek and Jesus actually falls

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in this line. Yeah. Now, whether or not that's supposed to be literally true, or it's a picture

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for you to understand what the writer of Hebrews is trying to help them understand. It doesn't

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matter. The picture is meant for you to understand a greater truth. Yeah. Sometimes we get stupefied

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stuck into, is it literally true? And I was like, sometimes the writers are trying to

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help us understand something we couldn't possibly comprehend. So it is the picture you're supposed

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to have when understanding who Jesus is. Yep. Right. Yep. And, and so a lot of times what

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you'd actually hear is you'd hear a phrase like in the name of Melchizedek, right? Which

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actually translates to in the name of righteousness. Right. Isn't that cool? Yeah. And like, who

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is the one who came to make us right with God? That would be Jesus. Yes. Very good.

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Well, and if you think about it is by his, by his sacrifice, his redemptive work, we

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actually become the Melchizedek of God, the righteousness of God. Right. It's very interesting.

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Right. Yeah. And so we have this guy who's mentioned for three whopping verses in Genesis,

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one in Psalm, and then a couple of times in Hebrews. And then you start to put all these

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pieces together and you're like, who is this guy? Well, and I think, I honestly think that

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a lot of, why the, by the way, if you, if you spend a lot of time in the Bible, just

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reading the text is going to convince you that there's, there's a God because it's so

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unbelievably layered and, and like feeding into itself and things going on like thousands

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of years apart, that there's no way that a human hand could have put it together. Our

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smartest AIs still can't pick it apart. Yeah. Right. That's by the way, that's two episodes

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in where I've talked about AI. I know. Right. Going down a rabbit hole. Yeah. But it's interesting.

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So Hebrews almost highlights Melchizedek and in the way that we understand him, he doesn't

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have a genealogy, right? Which kind of infers that he doesn't have a beginning or he doesn't

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have an end. Right. And rather than like somebody else would, it symbolizes kind of like this

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eternal nature of Christ's priesthood. It's not passing son to son to son to son. Jesus

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is going to be priest forever. Right. And it underscores like how Jesus is a priesthood

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is just so much different than the Levitical priesthood. Right. I think one of the last

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key things we've kind of danced around this a little bit is that Melchizedek is a priest

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but he's also a king. Okay. And I really wanted you to hear that he's priest and king. And

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of course that's going to be the perfect typecast of Jesus. Right. Because Jesus is prophet,

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king, messiah and priest and temple and sacrifice. And you know, like he is more than just one

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thing. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So we do have some other context for Melchizedek for basically

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sources outside of scripture. Correct. Okay. And now some of you are going to hear the

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keyboards typing and being like, wait, you're going to use sources outside of scripture.

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I'm just going to let you know your pastor does that every week. Yeah. Most pastors do.

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Yeah. Like there are sources that do compliment scripture. So we're going to go through some

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of these sources, some of these traditions, just so you can be like, okay, here's, here's

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some of the things that people might've heard, might've known about him. So one of the things

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that, and this is probably going to be helpful in understanding like what things we use and

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how we use them is there's authoritative scripture, which is what the church used and has used

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for thousands of years and has agreed that this is what God is teaching us to do. Right.

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The people who were there and the people who wrote it in, in combination with the Holy

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Spirit, there are still other things being written in that day. Think back when we did

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little book, quick message, right? That people were familiar with, but they didn't canonize

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because it's, it was just writings that occur in the day. It's, for example, if you read

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a like a Francis Chan book today, nobody's going to say that Francis Chan is his writings

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are doctrine, but what they will say is that they are commentary on different things going

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on in scripture and they can be helpful for understanding the perspective of the American

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church when he wrote it. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So the first one is in the cum run, cum run,

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cum run community, uh, who produced the Dead Sea Scrolls. Yeah. Now let's just pause right

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there. Some of you are like, okay, well those weren't discovered until what? 1930s or something

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like that. Yeah. 1930s and 1940s. Yeah. Um, it's like, okay, but they were written way

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before that and there were going to be groups of people who were familiar with those writings.

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Yeah. And, uh, and the cum run scrolls, the Dead Sea Scrolls, there was a lot of older

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versions of the Bible and by people think that's all there was, but there was a lot

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of extra biblical literature there too, from all through, through a lot of different generations.

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Yeah. So, uh, those scrolls in particular, they viewed Melchizedek as a significant figure.

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Uh, some like interpret him as a messianic figure, linking him to end times and, and,

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and a priestly order. Well, there is a specific scroll called the Melchizedek scroll. Yeah.

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Yeah. And that's the one you're referring to. Yeah. Yeah. And so it reflects the community's

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belief in a dual role of Melchizedek. Like, so that is, that is one, uh, outside source

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example of this. Uh, a second one is early Christian writings, uh, in the, uh, the epistle

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of Barabbas. Barnabas. Sorry, Barnabas. Not Barabbas. Barabbas would be a very interesting

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epistle. I would love to read that one. Uh, in Barnabas. Okay. Uh, mentions Melchizedek

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in a way that emphasizes priestly hood that foreshadows Jesus, right? Tying it into Hebrews

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actually. So like this epistle right here could actually be something that Hebrews is

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trying to indirectly quote from. Correct. Yeah. Well, and, uh, also in like Jewish tradition,

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they have, uh, in some of the early texts, like some things you'll find in Talmud or

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Mishnah or, um, the different writings, Melchizedek is, is associated with figures like Shem,

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the, the son of Noah and suggesting like this ancient revered like status, right? Um, his

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connection is not explicitly stated in the Bible, but it's been explored in a lot of

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rabbinic literature where they say, well, Melchizedek was really like Shem, right? So

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it was somebody from the line of Shem who, you know, acted righteously in the, in the

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case of Noah, right? Yeah. Now, by the way, we're not saying you need to believe that

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we're saying these are some things that literature has said, right? And so like this type of

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stuff, like you can, you can be listening to this. Some of it might be true. Some of

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it might not. What it is, is this is just giving context of what was known through literature.

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Right. There's, there's, he keeps showing up in stuff that, uh, there, it suggests that

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Melchizedek is an actual person. It wasn't just something added to the story. In fact,

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um, he even shows up in Islamic text, which would not be surprising because once again,

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you have Abram whose son is going to be, um, Ishmael, right? And Ishmael is going to be

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the founding, uh, founding father kind of, of the Islam religion. Right. So it actually

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takes place before the birth of Ishmael, which that would totally make sense then if Abram

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is his father and he's raising him, like Ishmael would have been familiar with the story. Right.

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Yeah. Yeah. It also shows up in Gnostic texts, right? Like, which is very interesting. Like

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they reference Melchizedek, um, and viewing him as a divine being, like an incarnation

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of a heavenly figure. Yeah. This is one of those examples where they kind of take his,

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uh, his dual nature and they try to use it for their own purposes. That isn't actually

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talking about, you know, cause a lot of the Gnostic issue is that they're trying to say

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that Jesus was not, you know, fully man, fully God kind of like thing. And, uh, you have

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this, this whole thing where they're taking Melchizedek and they kind of go just down

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a different road with it. Well, for my understanding, they actually do tie it back to, uh, they

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also tie it back to the Nephilim back in early Genesis, which we're not going to go down

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on that. We someday we will someday, but not today, not today, but, uh, but you know, essentially

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these beans that were larger than life, larger than human, more divine, more spiritually,

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uh, impactful or quote unquote, so on and so forth. So, uh, so there's, there's mention

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of Melchizedek in enough places for us to like, for, to where we should pause and be

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like, huh, who is this guy? Yeah. Right. And you know, and scholars are kind of divided,

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but one of the, one of the opinions that they have on him is that he kind of is the typecast

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of this, of this priest king, right? In the ancient Near East, his dual title is both

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king and priest, you know, uh, secular and sacred authority mixed together, reflecting

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like this political religious systems of the time. Right. Yeah. Um, some, some people point

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out to like Canaanite influence that, uh, he is representing like a local deity or a

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priest that, that in, in like Canaanite, um, history, like you see a lot of these, these

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types of roles showing up and is he a typecast of this type of role? Right. Um, now of course

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you're going to have scholars all over the place, whether or not they are, um, scholars

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is an interesting thing. You gotta be really careful when you say that they can be people

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who are very antagonistic toward the text or very, um, uh, positive towards the text.

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when you have scholars, they may or may not actually believe anything about the text.

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perspective for them. Well, I have a guy I like to listen to who he, he is a little bit

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more like that where he doesn't follow the text as an authoritative manner. But so some

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of his views, but when you listen to him, it's like, Oh man, you know, you're Hebrew.

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Yeah. Like, yeah, we, uh, we are very much at the love and context podcast. We are very

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much of the opinion that you should, uh, as you mature, learn to be able to, um, chew

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the meat and spit out the bones of everything that people have to say. And even people who

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are wrong about a lot of things or have the wrong perspective doesn't mean you can still

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learn a lot from them. And, uh, but with that being said, you need to be very grounded

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in your understanding of scripture before you go and start hearing random thoughts.

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Yeah. Um, I listed here in the notes and because there's no way that he and I would have known

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these things, right? But some of the, some of the specific texts from, uh, the, the Cumberland

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scrolls and so there's one called 11 Q 13, just rolls off the tongue, right? Right. And

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so this is how I label everything. Yeah. 11 Q 13. Uh, this is called the milk is a dick

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scroll and I'm just gonna read this here real quick. Uh, it's one of the most significant

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references to make us like in the Dead Sea scrolls. It presents Melchizedek as a messianic

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figure and a priestly leader. The text also associates him with the day of atonement and

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suggests that he will play a central role in the eschological judgment, proclaiming

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liberation for the righteous. The scroll emphasizes the idea of McKinsey deck as a priest in the

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order of McKinsey deck parallel in the biblical portrayal of McKinsey deck in Genesis and

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later interpretations in the book of Hebrews. So if this is the conversation about Melchizedek

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in the time of the Hebrews, it totally makes sense. The writer of Hebrews is going to say,

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Jesus is this messianic figure because remember the Jews are looking for a Messiah and they're

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trying to explain to them over and over and over again, Hey, Jesus is the guy you're looking

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for, right? About how Jesus is, uh, and how you're supposed to be understanding it. Right.

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And that's by the way, that's when you read something like that, you're like, Oh, that's

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definitely what they were doing the whole way through. Right. Uh, another one is 11 Q

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Melchizedek. This is another designation for the Melchizedek scroll, 11 Q 13, and it contains

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similar themes. So it's another scroll, but slightly different focusing on his role in

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eschological framework, by the way, eschological is a really difficult word that simply means

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end times, right? Um, text elaborates how Melchizedek will act as a mediator for God's

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people during the end time. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, you, by the way, should see a lot

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of parallels with who Jesus actually stepped into this role. Uh, here's one it's by the

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way, I'd love this system. I'm going to use it at home for Q 540. It's perfect. The songs

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of the Sabbath sacrifice. This one doesn't directly mention Melchizedek, but it does

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include hymns and prayers that refer to a priestly figure and themes of righteousness,

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which a lot of scholars have interpreted as being connected to the priestly order associated

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with Melchizedek. The emphasis on priesthood and worship in this context resonates with

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the broader significance of the Mecca because of that girl. Okay. And there's two other

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ones. I'm going to just say them here so you can read them. Uh, four Q five 34, which is

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called the war scroll and four Q one 74, the treaties on the two spirits. Um, so all of

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that being said, right now, kids, the deck is a very interesting figure, right? And I,

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you completely understand why the, the writers in the new Testament and specifically the

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writers of Hebrew uses the story of Melchizedek from the book of Genesis to, uh, build this

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understanding of who is Jesus and how does he interact with your life? Yeah. Right. I

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don't want to get into like too deep into like, was Melchizedek a real person? I think

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that history and him showing up in so many references suggest yes. Yeah, same here. And

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there's a lot of things that have derived from that relationship. So I would love to

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know more about Melchizedek because there's just not enough. It's kind of like when Enoch,

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it says Enoch walk with the Lord and then he was taken up into heaven. You're like,

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hold on a second. I need more of the story. Right. And then he goes, the book of Enoch

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and be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's a little too much for this story. That

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doesn't quite explain that. Um, that Melchizedek is, uh, I think the, the bigger thing to your

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point is that you were talking about, we see God working in other places besides just Israel,

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right? Spoiler alert. He's always been doing that. Right. One of the things that, uh, they

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keep finding in, in mission work, and this is going to make some of you a little uncomfortable

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and that's okay. I'm okay with that. Um, they go to these, these, uh, remote places in the

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middle of nowhere, right? Where people have never met, uh, Christians, they've not, they

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don't have people coming in and, um, uh, there's a number of occasions that these people living

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in these isolated places and they come to a guy and they said, oh yeah, we were expecting

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you. And this is a specific story I'm going to tell. We were expecting you and they get

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in and they get, they get somebody to start translating and they say, what do you mean

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that you were expecting us? They said, oh, the great God told us you were coming. And

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they're like, oh, okay, now we're dealing with mythology. They're like, they're like,

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uh, oh, really? What is, and then like, oh, his name is Jesus. And he said that you would

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tell us more about him. They're like, who was here before me? Who was here before me?

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Right. Um, and, and, and they're, and they're like, they said, yeah, he came and he told,

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he introduced himself, but he said that there were people coming who would tell us more

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about him. And so like, Jesus is going to these random villages out in the middle of

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nowhere. And then like the missionaries are coming in, they're like, yeah, let me open

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my Bible and I'll tell you about Jesus. And like, they're all, they're all in because

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they've already encountered God because God's at work places where we aren't. Yeah. It's

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his world. He's at work in people's hearts all the times. Um, I love the stories that

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come out of, uh, like Afghanistan and Israel and, uh, Palestine and these different places

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where there are people, uh, specifically like people, Muslims and, and different people

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in the, in the middle East, will they be on the middle of the desert? And Jesus shows

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up in their tent or, uh, at their campfire and he starts talking with them and inviting

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them. And he says, go here and find the Christians, right? And they'll tell you more. And, uh,

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and like people didn't, don't necessarily believe these stories, but God is doing these

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things and there's just so many of them and these people's lives are changed so dramatically.

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They're like completely sold out, uh, jihad Muslim gonna live into this life. And then

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they have a random campfire encounter with Jesus and they're going to find some Christians

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because they said, Hey, I gotta leave everything to follow this guy who showed up at my campfire.

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They're like, well, can you describe him? You know, always clothes and why, you know,

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like all sorts of like, like stuff. And it's like these stories give me chills, man. Yeah.

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Right. Um, I want to share one more story that I think is like really cool because we've

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talked about how our job is to represent Jesus in the world and to, and to put him on display

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so that everybody is invited into this relationship. Jackie Hill Perry in her book, gay girl, good

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God. Um, she threw like sexual abuse in her childhood and some different things. Like

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she found herself in, uh, same sex, uh, relationships and, and, uh, and, and living apart from,

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from the church where she was like originally supposed to be like, like called into, and

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she was in a relationship and she was living in this house and nobody had been talking

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to her about God. And then one day she wakes up in the middle of the night and God says,

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I choose you and you're going to be mine. Right. And, and there's more to it. Like,

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please read her book. But she's like, there wasn't somebody didn't come and preach to

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me. Somebody didn't come in and do these things. God called me and I had to go figure out where

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he was. Right. And, uh, and then like, she, you know, she explains like she had, does

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have to do things and work towards those things, but like in the middle of, in the middle of

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what we would consider, you know, like completely away from God, God's like, no, no, I'm coming

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in here and I'm taking you home. Well, my wife's story, like how she came to follow

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Jesus as she was in her room one night and very still night. And she's like, well, God,

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if you're real, make those trees dance. Gusto, when came in, blew the trees like back and

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forth for about 30 seconds and then perfectly still after that. And she was like, okay.

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Like, like God shows up in his ways. Like he shows up in these ways. We often dismiss

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it as like, oh, it was this, this or that, whatever. But God does show up in these ways.

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in a lot of different ways with people. Now, please don't miss here what I'm saying because

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I think somebody could easily take what I'm saying and say all roads lead to God. That's

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not what I'm saying. No. Right. I'm saying that God works in a lot of different ways

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to communicate his reality to people and invite them into relationship. Right. That Melchizedek

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is priest of God most high before there's a priesthood. Right. So obviously God is doing

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work before the mosaic covenant. Right. Before this covenant at Sinai. Yeah. And, and God

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is by the way, while Israel is going through these thousands of years, he's still doing

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things with people in the middle of those relate in the middle of those covenants. It's

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not just Israel he's working with. There's people all over. In fact, that might be a

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fun thing for us to go through is talk about all these people who are non Israelites that

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God keeps interacting with and keeps sending back to the nations. Yeah. Like you think

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about Nehman, right? By the way, that's a fun story in the story of Elisha, Elisha. This

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really big to do guy named Nehman who has skin disease comes to Elisha and he says,

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he says, yeah, I've heard that you might be able to kill me. And he says, doesn't even

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go to see him. He just sends his servant to the door and says, yeah, go bathe in the Jordan

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River, which by the way, the Jordan River is nasty. Yeah. Then, and essentially the

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story is that naming gets healed after being humbled, but that he, he asked Elisha if he

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can take the dirt from Israel to go back to his homeland so that when he is there, he

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can still worship God because in his mind, God is linked to the dirt. And Elisha is like,

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okay, sure. Go ahead and do that. Because like, like, does Elisha not know that God's

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not in the dirt? Of course God knows Elisha is not in the dirt, but he's going to let

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the guy take something that's going to connect him to God knows high. Right? Yeah. And, and

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I think sometimes we get so, so focused on everything being right that we forget to just

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connect people to God most high, let him fix the stuff in between. Well, if you think of

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the narrow road, right? Yeah. We're like, cause the Bible talks about how there's the

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wide path that leads to death, right? And the narrow road there's, but the thing that

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at least I've heard someone say it this way. One time I was like, there's lots of paths

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to the narrow road, but once you, but to get on the narrow road, you got to say yes to

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Jesus. Yeah. Right. Like that's how you get on that narrow road is by saying yes to Jesus,

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but God will meet you wherever you're at to get you to that road. Yeah. Right. And again,

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like be, I want to be really clear. There's lots of roads that do not lead there. Right.

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Right. We're not saying that all paths lead to God. Yeah. Eventually we will all be before

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him and there will, and there, you might have a pleasant conversation with him. You might

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not. Okay. We're hoping for pleasant. We're hoping for pleasant. That's what we're hoping

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and praying for. Right. But, but there's lots of roads that lead to that narrow path. Yeah.

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The best, the best thing about the, the Bible is that we get a, we got a chronological look

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at God working with one people and like how, who is this God? How does he work with people?

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What is his patience like? And the first, one of the first glimpses we get is in the

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book of Genesis through this King. That's not even an Israelite. Right. It's going to

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be fun. This was part one. Melchizedek. I am sure that you have questions. Please send.

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disagree with us, try to be nice. Remember, we're trying to represent Jesus here. So be

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nice. And if you're not going to be nice, we'll probably just delete your comment. So,

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or we'll use it to fuel our algorithm. One of the two, one of the two until next time.

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And that's a wrap for today's episode of love and context. We hope you enjoyed this engaging

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conversation and gain valuable insights into the powerful message of love within the Bible.

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