1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Season two of Love in Context podcast welcomes you. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,600 Get ready for engaging unscripted conversations with your host, Ben and Spencer. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:17,120 Our mission remains unchanged to explore the Bible through the powerful lens of love. 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,060 In this new season, we'll embark on a journey together, unearthing fresh insights and gaining 5 00:00:21,060 --> 00:00:25,440 deeper understanding of how we can love God and live out our faith in practical ways. 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,200 So let's dive into this season of Love in Context, where love and the context of the 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,520 Bible intersect to transform our lives. 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,960 Welcome to the first campfire session of Love in Context. 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,280 We figured it's summer, we may as well embrace it. 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,280 But yeah, right? 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,280 Absolutely. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,940 Yeah, that's my thought. 13 00:00:45,940 --> 00:00:52,640 And what better way to we're going to round out the last two episodes of James today and 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,600 episode one now and then week from now you'll see episode two, but it's actually happening 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,320 now we're recording it now. 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,600 So but yeah, let's just jump into it. 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,880 And it's good. 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,240 Yeah, fires. 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,040 I was actually at I mean, you remember I was in Idaho. 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,040 Yeah. 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,560 And it's very different in Idaho because all of the wood is very dry. 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Yeah. 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,400 So you have to be careful how big you build your fire and how quickly versus here where 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:20,400 it's always wet. 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,400 It's always wet. 26 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,400 Always. 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,400 It's always wet. 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,320 So you're like, well, we'll just need to be a little bit careful. 29 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:30,680 So in Idaho, I was burning some of my sister in law, she had like branches and stuff she 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,360 cut down, she needed Brent burnt. 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,560 And so I was doing that and I was like, it was 98 degrees outside. 32 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,680 And you know, I like eight o'clock at night. 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,700 And you're like, this was way too easy. 34 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:40,700 And it went well. 35 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:42,760 But it was also like the fire made it like 120 degrees. 36 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,360 So I was feeling very Shadrach Meshach in a Bendigo. 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,360 Yeah. 38 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:47,360 Yeah. 39 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,600 It was like, I was like, where's the fourth person? 40 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,600 Right. 41 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,600 Oh, it's me. 42 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,600 I'm the fourth person right now. 43 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,000 I'm like, I'm going to be this fire at a workout for 15 minutes to get it going because everything 44 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,000 was so wet. 45 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Exactly. 46 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Yeah. 47 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,000 It's like, all right. 48 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Exactly. 49 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,880 So because we are in a mobile set, the audio may be a little bit different. 50 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,600 We're used we're trying clip on mics this week. 51 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,040 So we'll see how that works. 52 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,440 We're going to try for our mobile sets. 53 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,440 And yeah, yeah. 54 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,440 All right. 55 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,760 So if you have been following along with us, we're going to pick up in James chapter four 56 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:14,760 verse 13. 57 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,920 And I'm just going to read a section here. 58 00:02:16,920 --> 00:02:21,280 Now listen, you who say today or tomorrow, we will go to this or that city, spend a year 59 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,360 there carry on business and make money. 60 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,360 Why? 61 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,960 You don't even know what will happen tomorrow. 62 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:26,960 What is your life? 63 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,640 You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes. 64 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:33,360 Instead, you want to say if it is Lord's will, we will do this and we will do that. 65 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,480 As it is, you boast in your arrogance schemes. 66 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,060 All such boasting is evil. 67 00:02:37,060 --> 00:02:41,440 If anyone then knows the good they ought to do and doesn't do it, it is sin for them. 68 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,800 And I think I want to pause there before we get into the next section. 69 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:51,240 So we've talked about how this book references back into Jewish tradition. 70 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,520 When he says, you know, your day is like a vapor, like it's here today, gone tomorrow. 71 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,320 Very reminiscent of Ecclesiastes. 72 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,320 Everything is heathel. 73 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,960 You know, it's a mist. 74 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:08,120 It's whenever you try to get a hold of it, it's actually gone. 75 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,640 I was actually thinking about that song that is really popular now, Firm Foundation. 76 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:15,680 And one of the reasons Firm Foundation is really popular is because the only firm foundation 77 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,720 we have is actually Christ. 78 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:25,040 When you try to build your life on these shifting sands, these things that aren't permanent. 79 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,000 When you're like, I'm going to build my life on my career. 80 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,560 Even you're going to build your life on your family. 81 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,040 These things that are temporary. 82 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,080 It's one of these things that the harder you grip into it, the more that it kind of goes 83 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,760 away like a cloud, like a shadow, like a vapor. 84 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:48,640 And like James is reminding them of this rich literature in Torah, which is that you need 85 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,640 to actually foundationally place yourself on the things that are important. 86 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,040 He's not saying don't make money. 87 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,240 He's not saying don't make plans. 88 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,760 He's like, when you do these things, make sure that you're actually doing them from 89 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:02,760 a place. 90 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:03,760 Yeah. 91 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,800 And when you own a business, you're forward thinking. 92 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,400 You have to plan. 93 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,800 When you start a business, you have to plan. 94 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,200 I'm probably not going to see profit for two or three years. 95 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,680 And then after that, I'll start to see profit. 96 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,920 Like you're going to have a tough couple of years in front of you. 97 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,400 You have to look ahead. 98 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,400 Right. 99 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,080 But it seems don't dwell on that. 100 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,080 Yeah. 101 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,400 Well, and especially thinking of because a lot of their their traditions would be agricultural. 102 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,400 Right. 103 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:36,360 So if you are a I was going to say gardener, but I've but I like a farmer. 104 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,360 That's what I'm looking for. 105 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,000 A farmer like you already have to plan for the next season in your current season. 106 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Yeah. 107 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Right. 108 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 So you have to plan ahead. 109 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,000 You have to plan ahead. 110 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,000 But you're planning ahead is based on this foundation of everything belongs to God. 111 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Well, and even gardening, man. 112 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Like, yeah, like when your garden season comes to an end, you're adding things to the soil 113 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,000 so that next year it's good to go. 114 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Yeah. 115 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Right. 116 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Like we live in Alaska. 117 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Like one of the things we go collect every every fall is we go collect a lot of kelp 118 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,000 along shorelines. 119 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,000 And we mix that in with coffee grounds. 120 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,000 And we have this whole thing. 121 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,000 We do, but that goes into our garden like you guys do. 122 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Yeah. 123 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Right. 124 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,000 My wife likes the garden. 125 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Yeah. 126 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Like I'm very supportive of it, which often means I'm down on the beach with buckets collecting 127 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,000 kelp. 128 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Right. 129 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,000 By the way, if anybody doesn't know what kelp is because you live in it, it's it's like 130 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,000 seaweed, basically. 131 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Yeah. 132 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Yeah. 133 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,000 But you do that. 134 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,000 So the soil is good to go for next year. 135 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Like you add things to it so that it can thrive for future years. 136 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Right. 137 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Right. 138 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,000 And if you don't do that, it dies. 139 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 And so like you have to be forward thinking. 140 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,000 But it's it's like when I look at this verse, I'm like, you know, you have to be forward 141 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,000 thinking, but you also have to be willing to adapt. 142 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Well, and and contextually with everything James has talked about to this point, it's 143 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,000 like, you know, when you engage trials, it's supposed to bring out the best character. 144 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,000 And when you when you accumulate wealth, it's not on the backs of other people. 145 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Yeah. 146 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 You don't show favoritism for one person over another. 147 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 These are all rooted in Torah ideas. 148 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Yeah. 149 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,000 Right. 150 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,000 And so this idea with Torah is you build as much as you want. 151 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,000 If you build it on the foundation of God as king. 152 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Mm hmm. 153 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Right. 154 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,000 And in our case, Jesus is king. 155 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 That's what James is going to proclaim. 156 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Right. 157 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Yeah. 158 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,000 And and but the but the second that you don't it becomes this thing where it says your life 159 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,000 is a mess. 160 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 It appears for a little while and advantages. 161 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,000 It becomes like this ecclesiastical idea of a hebel is the Hebrew word. 162 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Yeah. 163 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Right. 164 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 This thing that is there but not really there. 165 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Right. 166 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Yeah. 167 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:42,000 And I think I think there's probably been a good portion of my life where I put my trust 168 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,000 in Hevel. 169 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Mm hmm. 170 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,000 Right. 171 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 And not surprisingly, it lets me know. 172 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Mm hmm. 173 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,000 I mean, really. 174 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Yeah. 175 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:56,000 You know, and well, and there's a lot of things that we're like, well, we have to like we 176 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,000 invest a lot of our trust into that are trivial things. 177 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Correct. 178 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Like take cars, for example. 179 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Mm hmm. 180 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Like we've it always comes back to cars for you too. 181 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Yeah. 182 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Considering I just spent a week under one and it's all good to go now. 183 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:17,000 But like and but like cars, for example, like it's nice to have a good reliable car. 184 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Right. 185 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 But at some point it's going to break down. 186 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,000 It's going to fail your trust and you're going to have to either fix it or get something 187 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000 else. 188 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Right. 189 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Mm hmm. 190 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:33,000 I was thinking about that's all this real today and they're talking about like Christians 191 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,000 will be like, oh, God never fails me and they're like, well, God failed me. 192 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,000 And then they went off on these things. 193 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:43,000 But then they were expecting God to do things that God said never said he would do. 194 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Right. 195 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 And I was like, it's interesting. 196 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Like in relationships like as a as a married man, like how does holding your wife accountable 197 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,000 to things she never said she would do go for you? 198 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Wonderful. 199 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Yeah, it's wonderful. 200 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Every time. 201 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,000 And and they never goes wrong with that. 202 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Which kind of comes back to this idea of like because we've talked about like teachers in 203 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,000 the past and this choice to like speak the word and even on the platform, like we talk 204 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,000 about Jesus a lot. 205 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Yeah. 206 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Is like when we're telling people to like seek Jesus, like we want to make sure that 207 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,000 they're actually clinging to promises of what God actually says in the word of God. 208 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Mm hmm. 209 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,000 And not things that people talk about God because there's like this. 210 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:31,000 I mean, once again, I want to come back to this idea of the shifting shadow that we're 211 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,000 building on a lot of times. 212 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:38,000 And and it's one of the main reasons we have this podcast for like if you have real conversations, 213 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,000 you can actually find some like, hey, what does that actually say? 214 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Yeah. 215 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,000 And there's been occasions where you and I were sitting down and talking and I'm like, 216 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 I was like, yeah, and I'm reading this. 217 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000 I don't really know what he means by that. 218 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 You're like, it connects over here. 219 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,000 And I'm like, oh, yeah, it does. 220 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 It does connect over there. 221 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,000 That makes a lot more sense. 222 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,000 You know? 223 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Well, and that that leads us into the next part of James in Chapter five, because he's 224 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000 talking about like he's talking about like how you build wealth. 225 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Right. 226 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:10,000 And in this tale part, Chapter four, like one about self-confidence, pride, boasting, 227 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,000 all this stuff. 228 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,000 And you get into five. 229 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,000 It says, Look here, you rich people, we've been grown with anguish because of all the 230 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,000 terrible troubles ahead of you. 231 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Your wealth is rotting away. 232 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,000 It's like fine in your fine clothes or like moth in your eggs. 233 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Your gold and silver are corroded. 234 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,000 The very wealth you are counting on will eat away your flesh like fire. 235 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:34,000 This corrodes the treasure that is hoarded that testifies against you on a day of judgment. 236 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:39,000 For listen, hear the cries of the field workers who have been cheated of their pay. 237 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:46,000 The cries of those whose harvest your fields have reached the ears of the Lord of Heaven's 238 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,000 armies. 239 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Now, like I saw I've I've heard this passage interpreted like, OK, well, if you're following 240 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,000 the right path, you shouldn't be rich because like, man, it's going to rot away. 241 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,000 So that's not what they're saying. 242 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,000 It's not what it's saying. 243 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 It's saying it says that. 244 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 And then it goes into look how you abuse your wealth. 245 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Right. 246 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Right. 247 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Like having you don't pay people the very wage that they just work for. 248 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Right. 249 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Yeah. 250 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Right. 251 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:16,000 And and so like sometimes what we do is like I know Christian business owners who are like, 252 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,000 all right, I'm doing this, but you know, I'm just going to pay my employees this and it's 253 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,000 an unlivable wage. 254 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 I can't do anything with what they're doing. 255 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Right. 256 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,000 And and I know Christian business owners in our town where it's like you go to their establishment, 257 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,000 it's significantly more expensive. 258 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,000 But I also know them personally and I know they're paying their people well. 259 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Right. 260 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,000 So I'm happy to pay the extra dollar to support that. 261 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Right. 262 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,000 Right. 263 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,000 And so it's what's talking about don't abuse your wealth. 264 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Right. 265 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,000 Don't abuse what you have. 266 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Don't say, hey, you work really hard for me. 267 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 I'm not going to work a day in my life from now on. 268 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,000 I'm going to take all the money. 269 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:54,000 And if you in the previous paragraph, you've built your plans on your own ambitions and 270 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,000 everything and you haven't built your foundation on God, you're going to abuse your wealth. 271 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,000 But if you build it on God, you might make a billion dollars. 272 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:07,000 You might have 70 businesses or you might just excel in family and relationship and 273 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:13,000 whatever it is that God is prospering in your life because it's his plan and not yours. 274 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,000 But all of that stuff is going to be out. 275 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 It's going to be outflowing of generosity. 276 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Yeah. 277 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Right. 278 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Like even even relationally, you should be generous. 279 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Generous. 280 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Yeah. 281 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Generous. 282 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Well, I hit that really weird. 283 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,000 Right. 284 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:32,000 And so and then it goes on and five and five and six where it's like you spent your years, 285 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,000 you spent your years on earth and luxury satisfying your own desire. 286 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,000 You have fattened yourselves for the day of slaughter. 287 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:43,000 You have condemned and killed innocent people who did not resist you. 288 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Hmm. 289 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Right. 290 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Like these are some harsh accusations. 291 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Right. 292 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 These aren't even people you're fighting with. 293 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Yeah. 294 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,000 But you killed people who weren't even resisting you. 295 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Yeah. 296 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,000 But this actually there's tie ins here because people are like, well, this is really harsh. 297 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:02,000 This actually ties back to some of the minor prophets where it ties back to Habakkuk, Joel, 298 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Hosea and a few others where where the Lord's enacting judgment against Israel because of 299 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,000 their abuse of wealth over other people. 300 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Yeah. 301 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Right. 302 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Yeah. 303 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,000 So that's one of the reasons that the Lord sent Babylon to invade. 304 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Correct. 305 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,000 And so there's tie ins to the minor prophets here. 306 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,000 And so you have James saying like, look what's happened in the past. 307 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,000 And if you do this again, you know the consequences. 308 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Yes. 309 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Yeah. 310 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Once again, I think we've said I've said it like a thousand times during these like five 311 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,000 episodes. 312 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Mm hmm. 313 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,000 If you don't understand that James is speaking to Jews, you're going to miss the fact that 314 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000 he's speaking history to them most of the time. 315 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Like here, let's actually go because this is very, this feels very much because he one 316 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,000 talks to the people who are the oppressors. 317 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 But then in verse seven, he comes here and he starts saying this. 318 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,000 He says, be patient then brothers and sisters until the Lord's coming. 319 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,000 See how the farmer waits for the land to yield its valuable crop patiently waiting for the 320 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 autumn. 321 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,000 The spring rains. 322 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,000 You to be patient and stand firm because the Lord's coming near. 323 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 Don't grumble against each other, brothers and sisters, or you will be judged. 324 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 The judge is standing at the door. 325 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Yeah. 326 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,000 So brothers and sisters, as an example of patience in the face of suffering, take the 327 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,000 prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord. 328 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Right. 329 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,000 So along with this is like, hey, there is corruption in the world. 330 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,000 You need to stand firm. 331 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,000 But also when you do see the corruption, like you need to you, you need to know that God 332 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 is going to come and set things right. 333 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Yeah, absolutely. 334 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,000 I mean, that doesn't mean that you don't work towards justice. 335 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,000 It doesn't mean that you don't work towards equity. 336 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,000 It doesn't mean that you don't work towards building up the marginalized. 337 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,000 But systemic evil is is taken over by the kingdom of God. 338 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Right. 339 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000 And it is going to happen. 340 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 That's what all the prophetic literature is talking about. 341 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,000 That as the kingdom of God comes, these things will be set right. 342 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Your job is not to try to overturn evil, but to do good. 343 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,000 And by doing so, bring the kingdom of God where he overturns evil and become generous 344 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,000 when you're poor. 345 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Exactly. 346 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Like when you become generous and you're poor, then when you're gifted with a lot, you're 347 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,000 going to be all the more. 348 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Yeah. 349 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Yeah. 350 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,000 I if you're if you're not generous when you don't have money, you're definitely not going 351 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,000 to be when you do. 352 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,000 No. 353 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Well, I should say definitely. 354 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,000 But most likely you're not generosity is a heart posture. 355 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Correct. 356 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,000 It's not a we often view it as like a sense of like how much can I give? 357 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,000 That's not really what it is. 358 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,000 Like actually, Jesus speaks against that on a number of fronts. 359 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 But it's a heart posture of what can you get? 360 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Yeah. 361 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Right. 362 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,000 What can you offer? 363 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:36,000 And and sometimes it means you have to just give the five percent more so it hurts a little 364 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,000 bit. 365 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Yeah. 366 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Right. 367 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,000 And and that's never fun for that's never fun. 368 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 But I had a conversation with somebody. 369 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,000 They said, well, how much should I give to something that I really believe in? 370 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,000 I said enough that it is meaningful to you. 371 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Mm hmm. 372 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Yeah. 373 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Because something matters to you and you're like, oh, I'll give 100 bucks to that. 374 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,000 And I was like, but you never even notice it left. 375 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Mm hmm. 376 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,000 That's not what you listening or like managed. 377 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Hundred bucks. 378 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,000 I read definitely notice it left. 379 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Right. 380 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,000 Mm hmm. 381 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,000 But let's just say that you're just supposed to mink him. 382 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,000 You're like 100 bucks. 383 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,000 You don't even notice it left. 384 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Mm hmm. 385 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Is that actually meaningful contribution to what's going on? 386 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Yeah. 387 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,000 So I don't I don't want to stress too far and be like you should give more than you're 388 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,000 able. 389 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,000 I think you should like a meaningful number that helps you understand that you're actually 390 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 putting forth an effort into this. 391 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Mm hmm. 392 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Yeah. 393 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:28,000 I had a I had a time where I do a lot of fundraising for my job and and I had a time where someone 394 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 invited me into a church to present talking about stuff. 395 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,000 So I went presented talked about it. 396 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,000 All that stuff. 397 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,000 Church was 400 person church. 398 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Mm hmm. 399 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,000 About four dollars. 400 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Right. 401 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Yeah. 402 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,000 And the church invited me to be there. 403 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,000 And like at the end of it, like my wife and I sat down like why why did we do this? 404 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Yeah. 405 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,000 Right. 406 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,000 We were invited to be there. 407 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000 We were we were expecting more more when we did the ask. 408 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Yeah. 409 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,000 But they gave four dollars. 410 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Yeah. 411 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Right. 412 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,000 And this is a church that like prides themselves on being generous in the community. 413 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,000 Mm hmm. 414 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Right. 415 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,000 And it's not going to be fair just to be clear it's not in the town we live in. 416 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Yeah. 417 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,000 But you know it's one of those things where it's like oh you pride yourself on being generous. 418 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:13,000 But when someone comes and asks like when someone comes and supports and presents a mission 419 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,000 opportunity and you're like here's four bucks. 420 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Yeah. 421 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Well there is also this this conception of what you think you are versus what you actually 422 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,000 are. 423 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,000 Yeah. 424 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,000 OK. 425 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,000 So it was 2013 around that area and all the people in the church made this comment they 426 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,000 always comment that when people come in they're like oh we are a church that loves people. 427 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,000 Right. 428 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:42,000 And I was like OK I understand that but you've got a lot of like inside perspective on that 429 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,000 right. 430 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Like a lot of inside like people talking about like with that perspective I was like when 431 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,000 people come from the outside is that actually what they feel. 432 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Yeah. 433 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,160 Like if you ever actually done a survey ask people like hey like when they're first coming 434 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,640 in like hey what what drew you. 435 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,080 What what did you notice about our church. 436 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,920 They started asking that question and they were not very happy with the results. 437 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:11,400 No I remember one of them was like you guys are really particular about where you sit. 438 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,400 Mm hmm. 439 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,880 I was like like man that hurt you know. 440 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,400 And that's not by the way this is not to down on that particular church because this is 441 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,040 a problem that we as individuals have. 442 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,120 Like we're like oh yeah I love people. 443 00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:30,400 OK but how does that manifest in who you are. 444 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,280 You know you say you say oh I put my my faith in the foundation and Jesus Christ and it's 445 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,480 from where I live and I don't I make plans but it's because of who Jesus is in me. 446 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,560 OK but does that actually manifest in the way that you live. 447 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,560 Yeah. 448 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,560 Are you built on a foundation. 449 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,520 Are you actually bringing love and joy and peace and patience and kindness and goodness 450 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,160 and faithfulness and gentleness and self-control into the world. 451 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,320 It isn't manifesting in like actually telling people the story. 452 00:17:54,320 --> 00:18:02,560 I mean there are there are measurable outcomes to whether or not Jesus is moving in your 453 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,240 life. 454 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:09,880 Now I think quantitatively I want to explain I don't what I'm not saying is numbers but 455 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,280 there is measurable outcomes. 456 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,280 Yeah. 457 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,680 Is the spirit of God moving in your life. 458 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:14,680 Yeah. 459 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,200 Am I filled with love. 460 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,520 Or when that person cut me off. 461 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,360 We have we have construction and then and it's not great. 462 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:28,240 And one of the things that I noticed today is people really mad at each other all around 463 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,760 the road construction. 464 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:35,760 People walk in the people flagging people driving and I was like you throw a little 465 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:41,720 bit of inconvenience in and like you kind of get the perspective on people like how 466 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:42,720 they actually feel. 467 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:43,720 Yeah. 468 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:44,720 You know. 469 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,720 Yeah. 470 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:52,800 And it the invitation I think from James is like hey things are going to suck sometimes 471 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,400 but this is an opportunity for you to do something great for God to do something great and things 472 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,640 will get set right. 473 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,360 And you have this invitation to feed into like the kingdom of God and actually bring 474 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:05,660 about righteousness. 475 00:19:05,660 --> 00:19:09,120 So the book of James is actually a really encouraging book and we found it encouraging 476 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:13,260 us believers to encourage encouraging challenging all that right. 477 00:19:13,260 --> 00:19:14,800 But put it in the context of when I was written. 478 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,840 It is written in the persecution of Christians who are spread across the nations right. 479 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,920 And the tribes are actually experiencing different types of persecution around the world. 480 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:24,920 Right. 481 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,720 You have some in Rome who are experiencing being burnt alive. 482 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,080 You have other ones who are experiencing insufficient crucifixion. 483 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:37,280 You have others in Asia Minor who are experiencing totally different persecution so on and so 484 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,400 forth. 485 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:44,120 And so James is written in this context of turmoil of strife of hurt pain of feeling 486 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:46,360 like you have to hide. 487 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:52,000 And James is encouraging them to do what you can in the little ways to be welcoming to 488 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,040 the outsider right to lean to lean on the Lord trust and the abjoy. 489 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,760 You welcome me to the outsider and then you get to where we're talking today towards like 490 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:06,640 be generous with what you have be patient be kind and you get to the end of James 5 491 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,920 where it talks about restoring restoring a brother or sister. 492 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:10,920 Right. 493 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,680 And there's a couple of things that are really key in there. 494 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,840 It talks about being gentle in that right. 495 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,920 I mean how many times have have you seen a Christian brother or sister go to the table 496 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,040 with another brother or sister and be like oh I need to correct something in their life 497 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,400 and then they are completely dicks about it. 498 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:37,880 Oh probably more times than I've seen gentle right like significantly more that like people 499 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,680 have you know the 80 20 rule where they say you got to do 80 percent of your work in the 500 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,680 first year. 501 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,760 It's 80 20 but more often. 502 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,440 Yeah it's the negative right. 503 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,000 Yeah yeah yeah. 504 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,000 And so so be gentle in your approach. 505 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Right. 506 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,200 It's more valuable to have them over for dinner enjoy fellowship and have some have some heartfelt 507 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,200 conversations than as a sit them down and be like we have to address this issue in your 508 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,200 life. 509 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,200 Yeah. 510 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,200 And there's there's time for both. 511 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,200 Don't get me wrong. 512 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,200 Yeah. 513 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:09,960 And I keep coming back to I always come back to that wise word from our friend pastor Sarah 514 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,200 where she says if you're going to correct any connection specifically she says that 515 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,400 you can't correct without connection. 516 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,840 A lot of times we were wanting to speculate and speak into people's lives with absolutely 517 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,000 no connection. 518 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:30,080 Like you need to actually be invited in to speak in you know and I understand yes there 519 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,720 is like a general statement you can make as like a human being but that's not usually 520 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,520 where most of us go. 521 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:42,440 You know we never actually spend enough time around people that don't look like us to be 522 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,440 invited in to have a real conversation. 523 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,600 Yeah right. 524 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaking of your your last part I want to just read this because I think this is really 525 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,700 that whole section on on restoration. 526 00:21:56,700 --> 00:21:58,160 Is anyone among you in trouble. 527 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,160 Let them pray. 528 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,160 Is anyone happy. 529 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,280 Let them sing songs of praise. 530 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,380 Is anyone among you sick. 531 00:22:02,380 --> 00:22:05,120 Let them call elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the 532 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:09,080 name of the Lord and the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well the Lord 533 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,840 will raise them up if they have sinned they will be forgiven. 534 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,040 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be 535 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,040 healed. 536 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,640 The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. 537 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,080 Elijah was a human being even as we are. 538 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,640 He prayed earnestly that it would not rain and it did not rain on the land for three 539 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:26,640 and a half years. 540 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,440 Again he prayed in the heavens gave rain and the earth produced its crops. 541 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,040 Brothers and sisters if any one of you should wander from truth and someone should bring 542 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,040 that person back. 543 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,080 Remember this whoever turns a sinner from the error of their ways will save them from 544 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,240 death and cover over in a multitude of sense. 545 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,760 And so like it's not that you shouldn't ever go after people. 546 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,520 I think you absolutely always go after people. 547 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,760 But you you need to have this relationship that is capable of actually coming in and 548 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,080 correcting right. 549 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,120 And and there's there's twofold to that one we have to build relationships with people 550 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:03,600 outside our circle outside of our circle and then to we also need to let people have close 551 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,920 enough relationship with us. 552 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,080 Then when we're out they can come in and correct us too. 553 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,240 Yeah. 554 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,360 Because I think there is a tendency to so. 555 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:19,300 OK actually this is this is a story that you may be familiar with like this this idea. 556 00:23:19,300 --> 00:23:23,960 Sometimes people come to a church a church that you attend and they want to understand 557 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:30,040 like the church is theological stances and they start having a conversation they ask 558 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,560 you a bunch of questions. 559 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,320 And I was like and they even definitely tell when you're having this conversation you're 560 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,640 being theologically weighed and measured according to their theology. 561 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,640 Right. 562 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,600 And you're kind of being sifted. 563 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,760 And there is like this and it feels very strange. 564 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,980 It feels very impersonal because it's not part of a and it's not part of a growing relationship. 565 00:23:50,980 --> 00:23:53,360 It's just like an immediate right off the bat. 566 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:54,860 Yeah. 567 00:23:54,860 --> 00:23:59,360 And because of that like in my life I have definitely felt guarded when that kind of 568 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:00,360 thing comes up. 569 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:02,080 Right. 570 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,720 Because in the past what that has been used for is people go to find something and then 571 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,120 they use that to attack me. 572 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:09,120 Right. 573 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:12,680 Which doesn't feel good. 574 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,600 But at the same time I have to be vulnerable enough and open enough so that people who 575 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:22,800 do have my best at heart are able to actually speak in which is difficult. 576 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,260 Yeah. 577 00:24:24,260 --> 00:24:26,320 Being vulnerable is difficult. 578 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,580 Telling the truth about yourself is difficult especially when you've been burned especially 579 00:24:29,580 --> 00:24:30,580 when you've been burned. 580 00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaking of fire. 581 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,240 Yeah. 582 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,240 Especially when you've been burned. 583 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,240 Yeah. 584 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,800 So like vulnerability becomes harder after you've been shot down. 585 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:38,800 Right. 586 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,960 And like for lack of a better term but like inappropriately shot down. 587 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,360 I don't mean that in a crass way. 588 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:47,920 I mean that more in like someone overstepping bounds. 589 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,560 Right. 590 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,840 So like when you experience that and then you have to come back from that it makes it 591 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,840 harder. 592 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,800 So there's a comfort zone analogy where you have like a comfort zone every challenge zone 593 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,040 and then you have your fear zone your panic zone. 594 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,040 Right. 595 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,920 Like in growth what you want to do is you want to get people out of the comfort zone 596 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,160 into the challenge zone and that slowly grows your comfort zone over time. 597 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,160 Right. 598 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,560 But when you push people into the fear zone that shrinks your comfort zone. 599 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,560 Correct. 600 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,560 Right. 601 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,000 And so you have this situation when you are correcting people if you overstep and you 602 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,000 push them into that panic zone they're going to shut down even more. 603 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,360 And then to get them to open up again is next to impossible. 604 00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:32,360 Yeah. 605 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:35,240 And the interesting thing is a lot of times when you can tell me what you've seen but 606 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,280 a lot of times where I see people if they push them too far a little bit too far into 607 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,800 panic zone and somebody retreats then they're like oh I got to push harder. 608 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,720 Which then causes people to retreat even further. 609 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,720 Right. 610 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:54,960 And I it's it's a it's a delicate walk like most things in faith. 611 00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:00,480 I struggle a little bit when people say oh it's really easy to just read the Bible and 612 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,480 do what it says. 613 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,480 I was like OK. 614 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,480 Yes. 615 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,360 On a very fundamental level yes. 616 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:09,440 But you have to walk it out with grace and humility. 617 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,000 And that piece tends to be the one that is lacking when we're trying to do these things. 618 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,880 You know when you're like oh we got to turn away a brother because we got to cover a multitude 619 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,880 of sins. 620 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,880 This is something I have to do. 621 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,880 OK. 622 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,840 But you have to do it in a way that they'll receive it. 623 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,400 Well and I think you have to take time to understand that in a scriptural basis. 624 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,400 Yeah. 625 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,400 Right. 626 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,840 Because like when it says like casting out a brother. 627 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,840 Right. 628 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,840 It doesn't mean to have nothing to do with them. 629 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,120 It just means you're not holding them to the biblical standard that you live. 630 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:41,120 Yeah. 631 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:43,680 Basically you're treating them like an outsider who doesn't follow Jesus. 632 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,680 Yeah. 633 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,880 In which case you're supposed to share a meal with them. 634 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,000 You're supposed to love on them. 635 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,720 You're supposed to do life with them. 636 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:49,720 Yeah. 637 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,720 Right. 638 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,720 There's there's a balance there. 639 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:58,440 So like understand context there but also like the I've seen so many people where they've 640 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,760 said well I'm just holding on to what is true what is right. 641 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,760 Right. 642 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,540 But if you're not holding on to love you are neglecting what is true and what is right. 643 00:27:07,540 --> 00:27:11,560 So this idea of language when they say brothers and sisters like and they really talk about 644 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,760 family. 645 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:18,000 I think we have we have appropriately talked about that as like church is that we exist 646 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,160 as brothers and sisters in Christ. 647 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,960 But I don't think we really understand the depth of what it means when like James calls 648 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:31,240 somebody his brother like there is a there is a dedication there that is beyond like 649 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,240 family. 650 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:39,920 There's a dedication that is beyond just familiar relationship and like your family can really 651 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,560 screw some things up and it takes a lot to cut them off. 652 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,560 Now somebody listening might be like my family off really easy. 653 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,560 Right. 654 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,680 But it's pretty hard to actually cut your family off. 655 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,880 You usually find ways to try to restore things. 656 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,600 But there may come a point where eventually you have to be like hey listen for the sake 657 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,600 of my family. 658 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,240 I need to change this relationship. 659 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480 Right. 660 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:09,880 I wish in I guess my passion or my goal or maybe my heart in the church is that we would 661 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:16,840 actually get to the point where we're like family in that when somebody screws up and 662 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:22,280 hurts our feelings it's a lot harder for us to walk away. 663 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,320 It's a lot harder for us to give up on somebody. 664 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,560 You know I mean now I want to specify because I think good boundaries and all those things 665 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,560 are really important. 666 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,240 I'm not talking about like letting people beat you up or rip you apart any of those 667 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,240 type of things. 668 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:38,240 I'm talking about being willing to stick with people and thick and thin because you know 669 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,400 that they're your brother. 670 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,320 You know that they're your sister and you know that that you're going to be able to 671 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,320 figure it out. 672 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,000 You think about something. 673 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,600 I agree. 674 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,600 I agree. 675 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,600 Yeah. 676 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,000 Also like also there are situations where you do just need to cut ties. 677 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Correct. 678 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Right. 679 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,000 Like we don't want to neglect that. 680 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,400 Like I agree. 681 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,080 Like like I remember having to pull some people like help pull some people out of some situations 682 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,560 that were really rough where they needed to be out. 683 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,560 100 percent. 684 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,560 Right. 685 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,240 There are there are times like that too. 686 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:18,320 And and I think the thing with family and boundaries is really a tough conversation 687 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,960 for people because a lot of times what we do is we say these are my boundaries respected 688 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,360 but in doing so we're crossing the boundaries that other people in your family have set. 689 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,360 Sure. 690 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,000 So there are so like there are compromising values and and there are times where you don't 691 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,600 compromise the boundaries too. 692 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:40,120 But like thinking of my own family for example like I have a large family I got eight siblings 693 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:45,880 and there are we all live different different lifestyles right. 694 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,000 Spread across all over the US now. 695 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,280 And there when I spend some time with some family members like they have boundaries are 696 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,400 very important to them that are very hard for me. 697 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,400 Right. 698 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,800 But we have to come to some sort of compromise so that so that like they can feel like they're 699 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,840 heard and that that I can also feel like I'm heard. 700 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,840 Right. 701 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,040 Because sometimes the boundaries you can come in and be like this is my boundary don't cross 702 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,040 this line. 703 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,200 And if you do like come on man like you know better. 704 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,200 Yeah. 705 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,200 It's like that's actually manipulation. 706 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,200 Yeah. 707 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,120 And oh I agree with you. 708 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,800 My my point had more to do with this perspective that we've kind of adopted in the American 709 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,920 Church where hey if you just disagree with me and we're just done with each other man 710 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:34,720 you know like we have we have more of a connection with the guy in the checkout line at Safeway 711 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,160 than we do with a person who proclaims the fall of Jesus. 712 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,400 And that's that's more what I meant on that like when you you don't give up on family 713 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,400 quickly. 714 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,400 Yeah. 715 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,960 And that's I think yeah I think that kind of need to hold both of those. 716 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,960 Yeah. 717 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,040 I think that comes down to letting the little things slide and right. 718 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,240 Just letting little things slide and stick into the main things. 719 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,240 Right. 720 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:57,600 Because if I if I tell my friend Brian Qualls let's keep the main thing the main thing. 721 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,600 Yeah. 722 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,600 Yeah. 723 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,800 If I if I held every little thing that my siblings have done against me or annoyed like 724 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,520 we would not talk at all. 725 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,520 Right. 726 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,520 It's true. 727 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,680 But if I call if I call them they answer or they call back. 728 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:11,680 Right. 729 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,680 Yeah. 730 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,200 Because like our bond is stronger than what annoys us. 731 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,200 Right. 732 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,760 Our bond is stronger than what makes us want to punch each other. 733 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,760 Yeah. 734 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,760 Right. 735 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,520 And like you have siblings like there's days where you're just like what are you thinking. 736 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,280 My brother actually came back into town today and went to my rotary and I immediately threw 737 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,280 him under the bus. 738 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,560 And so speaking of right. 739 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,600 If they held everything against me then that would be you know we would just never. 740 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,600 Yeah. 741 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,600 We would never be able to do life. 742 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,600 Mm hmm. 743 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,600 Right. 744 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,120 And so and there are things that are more important than our disagree. 745 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,120 Right. 746 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,120 Right. 747 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,920 And we have to be willing to set those things aside. 748 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,240 And that's something I struggle with. 749 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,240 Right. 750 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:54,200 Because because especially when it comes to civil sibling rivalry it's you want to be 751 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,200 right. 752 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,600 And you're thinking well I know I am right. 753 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,280 No I was actually agreeing with you. 754 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:09,760 I was like I was like it's really frustrating because you're like do I want to be right 755 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,800 or do I actually want to build a relationship that honors God. 756 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,480 Mm hmm. 757 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,840 And you can do both. 758 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,320 And you also need to be OK with people just disagreeing with you too. 759 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,320 Mm hmm. 760 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,320 You know. 761 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,320 Yeah. 762 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,120 I mean I think about this part where James says confessing your sins to one another and 763 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:31,000 praying for each other like have you been part of a fellowship where like you like Pete 764 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,320 that was part of a regular part of your fellowship. 765 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,320 Yeah. 766 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,320 Like confessing and praying. 767 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,320 Mm hmm. 768 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,320 Yeah. 769 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,320 Yeah. 770 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,360 I mean with all that of course like you always want to be really careful. 771 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,440 You need to be in a place where you know people are going to honor and respect you. 772 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,440 Yeah. 773 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,440 Right. 774 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,960 But I'd love to hear about it. 775 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,920 I think the struggle we have with this verse is we often get set and this is how this should 776 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,920 be done. 777 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:57,920 Mm hmm. 778 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,080 Like here's a specific formula formula for confessing and praying for each other. 779 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,460 Right. 780 00:33:03,460 --> 00:33:06,920 So I've seen churches be like what we do we do corporate confession and I'm like well 781 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,720 that can be intimidating to a lot of people. 782 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,720 Right. 783 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,880 Go up in front of a couple hundred people and confess your sins like that can be intimidating. 784 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,280 I've also seen churches who have taken that model and been like we're doing that in a 785 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,280 small group setting. 786 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,280 Mm hmm. 787 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,280 Right. 788 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,600 So they have a few methods background and one of their big things is what they call 789 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,600 soul care groups. 790 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,720 I think they've changed the name of it now. 791 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,720 Right. 792 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,640 But like one of the big questions they ask is how is it with your soul? 793 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:37,360 And now that comes back that traces all the way back to John Wesley in the 1700s in England 794 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,400 when he did these small groups. 795 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,080 That was one of the questions that they asked. 796 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,080 How is it with your soul? 797 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,080 Mm hmm. 798 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,680 And then you were and then the idea was that you're being honest about it. 799 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,680 Yeah. 800 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,200 That you are being upfront and being like I am struggling here. 801 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,120 Here is where my downfall. 802 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,560 Here's where I've fallen short. 803 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,720 Here is my temptations. 804 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,240 Here's where I need help. 805 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,240 Right. 806 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,320 And a lot of that is just actually having a real life relationship with something. 807 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:14,960 You know it is interesting that one of the most revolutionary things that we could do 808 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,080 in modern culture is actually to have real relationships with people around us. 809 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,480 One of the things is going to put Jesus on display in more ways than like you can like 810 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,480 us people. 811 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,520 You mean think about social media and you think about like telecommunications and like 812 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,880 people they're like oh you can connect with people you've never connected with and all 813 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:32,880 these different things. 814 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,240 But nobody it's everybody's more isolated than ever. 815 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:38,240 Even post covid. 816 00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:39,720 Right. 817 00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:44,120 Real relationship is rare. 818 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:49,040 And when it becomes a hallmark of the church I mean that's attractive. 819 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,040 Yeah. 820 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,080 I mean that's the kingdom on display. 821 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:58,720 And I think I think confessing can take can look a number of different ways. 822 00:34:58,720 --> 00:34:59,720 Right. 823 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:05,960 Like let's be real like you you live in ideally you live a confessing relationship within 824 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,240 the within the body of Christ in the context of your marriage. 825 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:10,240 Right. 826 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:11,240 Right. 827 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,200 Like have you ever had to apologize to your wife. 828 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,200 Sure. 829 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,200 I am a perfect husband. 830 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,560 Do I need to call her right now. 831 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,840 Listen there is not a single person watching this that thinks that that's true. 832 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:27,280 It's like yeah do I need to call her right now and be like hey has your husband ever 833 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,280 done wrong. 834 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,560 And I know for a fact she'd be like yes she's like without excuse like you mean in the last 835 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,560 five minutes. 836 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,560 No. 837 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,560 Exactly. 838 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,560 Right. 839 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,160 Like I've had to live a confessing life with my wife where it's where it's been like hey 840 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,880 I'm sorry I blew off the handle there. 841 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,080 I got frustrated there when I should get frustrated. 842 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,080 I mean I have that with my kids. 843 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,680 I say you know you'll raise your voice and I say hey listen I raised my voice and I was 844 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,960 unhappy and I'm really sorry that I scared you. 845 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:54,960 Will you forgive me. 846 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,960 Yeah. 847 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,160 Now we need to talk about even though I handled it poorly we still need to address what happened. 848 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,160 Yeah. 849 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:06,080 You know so my one of my my second job this this week has been a little bit slower and 850 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,960 my kids been in a day camp and it has been like I have so much time to get stuff done 851 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,000 that I've got like caught up on stuff which has been amazing. 852 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,000 Right. 853 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,000 Yeah. 854 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,120 And then she comes home and it's like my productivity plummets like plummets because because you 855 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,320 shift gears from like I'm going to get this done to I'm going to teach you how to do this. 856 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,640 Oh you're curious what I'm doing. 857 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,600 Like yeah I've been taking specific times during my work week to work on a designation 858 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,400 that I need for work. 859 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,520 And one of the people I was talking to who's also working on it they're like oh are you 860 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,520 just studying at home. 861 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,520 I'm like nope. 862 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:46,360 If I tried to study at home I would get 0 percent done because I would get distracted 863 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,920 by my kids and they're like to be fair they're five and three. 864 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,280 That's what they're supposed to do. 865 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,840 But I would never get anything done. 866 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,840 Yeah. 867 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,960 And so what I want to do is I want to get all that done so then I can go and do life 868 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,240 with them when we get home. 869 00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:58,240 Yeah. 870 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:04,280 So coming back to James really quick again just coming this this idea it's it closes 871 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:10,240 with this idea of like loving each other well praying for each other relationship like this 872 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:14,360 foundation and God yes all these different things don't get caught up in what you can 873 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,560 do for yourself. 874 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,640 Now as you live together live together. 875 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,640 Yeah. 876 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:26,040 Live for each other and one of you starts to go go away go get him bring him back. 877 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,480 Don't let him fall in a pit. 878 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:36,200 You know and build authentic relationships so that love correction everything comes out 879 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,200 of that. 880 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,200 Yeah. 881 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,200 Right. 882 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,440 It's not always going to be correction but sometimes it will. 883 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,440 Yeah. 884 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,440 Yeah. 885 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,440 Absolutely. 886 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,440 All right. 887 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,440 I think it's probably good for this one. 888 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,520 The next episode we're just going to recap James and just take this idea of like and 889 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,600 we might just kind of also talk about like epistles in general about why it's really 890 00:37:54,600 --> 00:38:02,760 important to understand who they're written to and why why you maybe don't need you shouldn't 891 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,040 read them in an echo chamber. 892 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,400 You need to read them in context because there's a lot of things that could be misappropriated. 893 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,400 Yep. 894 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,400 Yeah. 895 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,400 Till next time. 896 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,400 Bye. 897 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,060 And that's a wrap for today's episode of love and context. 898 00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:19,980 We hope you enjoyed this engaging conversation and gained valuable insights into the powerful 899 00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:22,000 message of 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