1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Season two of Love in Context podcast welcomes you. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,600 Get ready for engaging unscripted conversations with your host, Ben and Spencer. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:17,120 Our mission remains unchanged to explore the Bible through the powerful lens of love. 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,060 In this new season, we'll embark on a journey together, unearthing fresh insights and gaining 5 00:00:21,060 --> 00:00:25,440 deeper understanding of how we can love God and live out our faith in practical ways. 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,160 So let's dive into this season of Love in Context, where love in the context of the 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,720 Bible intersect to transform our lives. 8 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,600 Mini series number two. 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,920 You guys have made it. 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,780 If you did not stop listening to us when we talked about women in ministry, we're going 11 00:00:41,780 --> 00:00:44,160 to try to send you off with this one. 12 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:46,320 So we're excited to be with you here today. 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,320 I'm Ben. 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,320 I'm Spencer. 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:53,640 And we're joined by Brian Qualls, not quite yet captain at the Salvation Army. 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,640 Not quite, almost there. 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,120 We've got a few weeks left. 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:03,440 And if you remember, we had his wife on during the women in ministry mini series and we definitely 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,720 made comments about you not being a captain. 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,920 Look, even when I become a captain, we're both captains. 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:09,920 She's still the captain. 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:10,920 Yeah, she's got seniority. 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,280 She's got seniority. 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,640 She's slightly more captain. 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,640 That's it. 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:15,640 You're like Captain Kangaroo. 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,640 She's Captain Crunch. 28 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:17,640 Exactly. 29 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,640 I don't get that reference, but exactly. 30 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:20,960 Oh man. 31 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:21,960 It's a serial joke. 32 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:22,960 It's serial. 33 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:23,960 It's very serial. 34 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:28,080 So before we get kind of rolling in here, because people have never met you, tell us 35 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,360 a few things about yourself. 36 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,560 Yeah, I am a transplant. 37 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,480 Grew up in Los Angeles. 38 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,840 Dodgers fan, angels fan, Lakers fan, Raiders fan. 39 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,360 And we've been here now for about two and a half years. 40 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,400 We started serving at the Salvation Army just about my wife six years ago and me five years 41 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,600 ago. 42 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,720 And we've just enjoyed our time here, you know, barring the weather. 43 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,000 We like the sunny days more than the rainy days. 44 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,080 All five of them. 45 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,080 All five of them. 46 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,600 And, you know, it's been good. 47 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,880 Yeah, we love serving God in unique places. 48 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,880 So yeah. 49 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,880 Yeah, that's exciting. 50 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,880 It is. 51 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,720 It is hard to be a Raiders fan now, but it's good that you are. 52 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,720 Now like 20 years. 53 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,720 Just sorrow. 54 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,120 It's basically since Madden retired. 55 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,120 Pretty much. 56 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,800 Yeah, it's been pretty tough. 57 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:10,800 All right. 58 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,800 So our new series is we're going to be talking about spiritual gifts. 59 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,760 We're going to be talking about what it means to operate in the gifts of the Holy Spirit, 60 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,320 but we're actually not jumping directly into that because Spencer and I, as we were talking 61 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,880 about putting this series together, we said one of the issues is immediately people go 62 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,880 and they talk about, you know, they want to talk about tongues. 63 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,880 They want to talk about healing. 64 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:30,880 They want to talk about prophecy. 65 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,200 And those are all really good things to talk about. 66 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,320 We are going to talk about them. 67 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,320 But the foundation of spiritual gifts has to be right relationship with God and right 68 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,720 relationship with your community. 69 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:42,720 Yes. 70 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:43,720 Right. 71 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,520 We're going to call it love God and love other people. 72 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,000 And so that's what we're talking about today. 73 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,960 Why this is so fundamental to actually operating in the gifts, because if you operate in the 74 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,760 gifts without this, there's a whole chapter that Paul wrote in first Corinthians about 75 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:03,760 it and which was we know the church in Corinth had some really crazy things going on. 76 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,480 They had they had an outpouring of the spirit that was that was different than what the 77 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:08,560 other churches were going through. 78 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:14,240 So it was a little messy, but that's usually what is the case when God does transformative 79 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,640 work is because there's so many people being changed by the power of God. 80 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:19,400 There's not a chance to actually disciple them into it. 81 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,800 And so like Paul's writing this letter, he's like, listen, this stuff is all good. 82 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,440 We just need to add some order to it now. 83 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,320 You know, and so and so, yeah, we're going to start our talk there. 84 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,320 And the two are so intertwined. 85 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:36,080 Love God and love people like you can't separate the two like you in conversations like this, 86 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,960 you kind of have to talk about one and then the other, but they're really meant to be 87 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:40,960 talked about together. 88 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Yeah. 89 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:42,960 Like coupled. 90 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,840 So you can't have one without the other. 91 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,000 Can't have one without the other. 92 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,480 I knew you were going to go there. 93 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:51,480 Yeah. 94 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:52,800 So soon as I said it, I was maybe many of those. 95 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,280 I'm pretty sure that I can do that because we don't charge any money to listen to the 96 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,280 podcast. 97 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,280 So I'm pretty sure I can do that. 98 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,080 But if not, they come out for you. 99 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,360 They come for me. 100 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,080 I'll be like, you can have half of everything that we make for this podcast. 101 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,080 50 cents. 102 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,080 Fair enough. 103 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,440 So speaking of love, God and love other people, Jesus talks about it right now. 104 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,820 Basically when in the Torah series, we talked about where those original conversation pieces 105 00:04:14,820 --> 00:04:15,820 come from. 106 00:04:15,820 --> 00:04:20,040 There's the Shema and there is from Leviticus 23, 19. 107 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,040 19. 108 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,680 23 is something else that I was just reading about. 109 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,400 And so we were going to come back to those, but I want to start with Jesus. 110 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:33,120 So if you remember, the main place this just shows up is Jesus is teaching. 111 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,120 Not surprising. 112 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,120 That's what Jesus does. 113 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,840 And a expert in the law. 114 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:38,360 I love that Luke specifies that. 115 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,120 It's an expert in the law stood up to ask him a question. 116 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,000 And he says, what is the greatest command? 117 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,600 Now in American ears, we're like, okay, what's the most important one? 118 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,600 Except that's not actually what the teacher is asking. 119 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Because in rabbinic culture, when you ask somebody, what is the greatest command? 120 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,400 Everybody agrees that the first one is love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, 121 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,600 mind and strength. 122 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,980 The question is, what's the second one? 123 00:05:01,980 --> 00:05:03,820 So there was two schools of thought at that time. 124 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:07,780 There was the school of Shemai, who was a rabbi during that time, just preceding Jesus. 125 00:05:07,780 --> 00:05:09,720 And there was a school of Hillel. 126 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,040 And Shemai said, there was love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength 127 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,880 and obey the Sabbath. 128 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,760 Then Hillel said, it was love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength 129 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,320 and love your neighbor as yourself. 130 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,620 Now Hillel's is probably the more liberal in sense of open interpretation. 131 00:05:26,620 --> 00:05:28,160 Not necessarily, we're not talking politics. 132 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,300 We're talking about open or closed, right? 133 00:05:30,300 --> 00:05:35,120 Liberal interpretation of the lens by which Hillel governed. 134 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:40,520 So Hillel is essentially saying that the lens by which you obey Torah is through the lens 135 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,000 of love. 136 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,240 Both the way you love God and love other people. 137 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:49,440 Shemai says the way that you obey Torah is through obedience. 138 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,840 Obedience shows that you actually are following Torah. 139 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:55,600 Jesus agrees with one of them, right? 140 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:01,160 But even Jesus's interpretation turns it on its head because Hillel was also, he didn't 141 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,720 consider the Roman a neighbor. 142 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:09,480 He didn't consider, he definitely didn't consider Samaritan's neighbors. 143 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,800 And so if you remember how the story goes, is that the teacher of the law seeking to 144 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:14,800 justify himself. 145 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:21,160 By the way, I found myself in that position multiple times seeking to justify myself. 146 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,040 I asked a further question of Jesus. 147 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,160 And mine went just about as well as his did. 148 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,900 And then there is this story he says, he says, well, so then who is my neighbor? 149 00:06:31,900 --> 00:06:35,000 And then Jesus tells the parable, which is a very familiar parable to most of us, which 150 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,240 is that of the good Samaritan. 151 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:43,800 And we have talked in the past in the podcast, but Samaritans are, it's not just your enemy. 152 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,880 The Jews at the time really thought of them as like dirty half breeds. 153 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,920 Now this is not my commentary on Samaritan people. 154 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,840 I'm saying what this was the feeling at the time. 155 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:56,220 They were not a good people. 156 00:06:56,220 --> 00:06:57,760 They were not thought of fondly. 157 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,280 When Jesus goes into Samaria, I was, I remember the chosen and they're like, are you sure? 158 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:04,680 Like that is a legitimate perspective of the Jewish people. 159 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,880 They're like, I've never even set foot in Samaria. 160 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:07,880 I wouldn't. 161 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:08,880 Right. 162 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,120 Like that is, that is a, that is absolutely the mentality of that time. 163 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:19,960 And Jesus says, this person, this person who showed grace, even when they didn't have to, 164 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:26,240 and even especially when they wouldn't have felt like it, this is your neighbor. 165 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,520 The person that you think is completely on the outside, that person that you think is 166 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,080 completely gone. 167 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,080 This is the person that your neighbor, which resonates with a lot of his teachings, talking 168 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,720 about loving your enemies, praying for those who persecute you. 169 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,720 You're just not of this world. 170 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:40,720 It's different. 171 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,720 Turning the other cheek. 172 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:42,720 Yeah. 173 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,840 It's all about like, yes, standing for justice, but also learning how to have grace and mercy 174 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,040 with people and in a, in a nonviolent confrontation. 175 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,040 Right. 176 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,520 No, that's powerful. 177 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,840 You know, I think what you're saying there with the, you know, the, the recognition of 178 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,120 Jesus, he's taking something that they knew and he's breaking it and making it something 179 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,120 new. 180 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,120 Right. 181 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,640 And he does that multiple times in scripture or something that, unless you know the context 182 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,920 now, he's taken this thing for the Jewish people and saying, no, this is not just for 183 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:13,920 this. 184 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:14,920 Right. 185 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,880 It's not just reserved for your definition of what God's holy people are. 186 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,960 It's, you know, from the beginning, the Gentiles are part of this plan. 187 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:22,960 Right. 188 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:23,960 And he goes to Genesis 12. 189 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:24,960 Yeah. 190 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:30,560 He says to Abraham, you're going to be blessed so that all nations are going to be blessed. 191 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,000 All nations are going to be blessed. 192 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,000 And so like to your point, which I love that you said, Jesus is breaking something. 193 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,360 He's breaking their traditions and reminding them that's not what the Torah ever said. 194 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,760 The Torah was always about all nations. 195 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,840 In fact, we went through 43 episodes, by the way, I counted them last year, 43 episodes 196 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,400 through Torah. 197 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,400 And over and over again, God is incredibly concerned about how Israelites treat each 198 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:56,200 other and how it impacts the people around them and not letting the people around them 199 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,200 impact them. 200 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,200 Right. 201 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,200 Right. 202 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,240 That your job is to actually walk these things out, be a physical representation and show 203 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,040 the world what it means to follow Torah. 204 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,040 Right. 205 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,880 Be my holiness in the world and change the world around you. 206 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaking of, speaking of Leviticus 23, where I misquoted before Leviticus 23 is at the 207 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,760 post of Leviticus, God says to his people, he says, if you follow my rules, you're going 208 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:18,760 to have all these things. 209 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,240 He talks about reversal of the curse, you're going to, the ground is going to yield food. 210 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,080 Your women are going to have children. 211 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,960 Your animals are going to multiply. 212 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,960 You're going to be safe from those around you. 213 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,840 Or the last thing he says is I will actually come and tabernacle among you. 214 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,520 I'm going to walk among you, which hearkens back to the story of Genesis where God is 215 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,000 walking with them in the cool of the evening. 216 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,920 Now the interesting thing is people give Pharisees and the rabbinic system a really hard time, 217 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:53,800 but it was the first system that was instituted where they were regularly learning and attempting 218 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,200 to at least follow Torah on a regular basis as a nation. 219 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,200 Sure. 220 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,600 And guess what happens? 221 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,560 Torah made flesh comes in tabernacles among them. 222 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:04,560 Right. 223 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:05,560 Right. 224 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:08,640 There's an invitation that when we actually walk in the ways of God, there is an invitation 225 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,440 to now his spirit to come and walk with us as we go, which is why we say if you don't 226 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,900 have love God and love other people, if you don't put the yoke of Jesus on correctly, 227 00:10:17,900 --> 00:10:20,120 then walking in the spirit is going to be a non-starter. 228 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,120 Right. 229 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:27,040 And often when I've heard people talk about love God and love people, they like, we need 230 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,080 to love God with everything we have and love people. 231 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,080 And they jump straight to, okay, this is how we love people. 232 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,560 And it's like, okay, let's actually pause and back up a little bit. 233 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:35,560 Right. 234 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:37,920 Like how do we love and live in fellowship with God? 235 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,280 Because the love that we're going to be giving to the people around us comes from God. 236 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,280 Yeah. 237 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,280 Doesn't come. 238 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,560 If I was loving in my own strength, it would be a disaster. 239 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:50,720 It would end very quickly sometimes. 240 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,720 Sometimes. 241 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,720 Yeah. 242 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:58,600 And, but when I am reliant on the Lord and his love is pouring through me and I am extending 243 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,600 that to the people around me, that's when we get to see transformation happen in our 244 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,600 communities. 245 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,600 Yeah. 246 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:06,600 Yeah. 247 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:07,600 100%. 248 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,640 Well, and, and I think also with your, what you're talking about where we jumped immediately 249 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,600 to this, to this position, well, this is how we're going to love. 250 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,960 You posted about something just yesterday and you just share that with us because I 251 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,680 think, I think this is where we tend to jump almost right away. 252 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:20,680 Yeah. 253 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:26,280 You know, I think for me in my walk with God over the years, I've learned to ask the question 254 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:31,400 if, if the way that I'm trying to love somebody, are they accepting that love, right? 255 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,000 Do they feel loved? 256 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,560 Do they feel like how I'm, you know, it's kind of goes back to maybe like the love languages, 257 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:40,680 you know, if you're married out there, you understand that you might think I'm trying 258 00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:43,960 to love my wife a certain way, but that they don't receive love that way. 259 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:44,960 Yeah. 260 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:45,960 You know, it creates conflict, right? 261 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,680 And I think the same way in our relationships with others, if we're saying we're loving 262 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:54,520 people, but they don't feel that way, you know, because of whatever, it just, it just 263 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:55,520 comes off wrong. 264 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,160 So, you know, for me, it comes down to that old saying, right? 265 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,960 That love the sinner, hate the sin. 266 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:06,480 And you know, a lot of times that's just justification for vitriol, justification for bigotry. 267 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,760 And you know, so I try to get rid of that second half of that, right? 268 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,200 Like it doesn't mean that I'm going to give ground to sin or make excuse for sin or not 269 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,160 teach on sin, but my focus is to love people. 270 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,720 Like God's focus is to deal with sin. 271 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:20,720 Right. 272 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:21,720 Right. 273 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,720 I'm not God. 274 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:23,720 Yeah. 275 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:24,720 Who's doing the transforming work? 276 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:25,720 Yeah. 277 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:26,720 Right. 278 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:27,720 Yeah. 279 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:28,720 Right. 280 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,720 We, we are not, it is, it is Christ. 281 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:30,720 It is the spirit. 282 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:31,720 There's a spirit. 283 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,720 It is his father. 284 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:33,720 They're doing the transforming work. 285 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:34,720 It's not us. 286 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:35,720 It's the indwelling of the spirit. 287 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:36,720 Right. 288 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,680 Like until they have salvation and have the spirit transformation is not possible. 289 00:12:38,680 --> 00:12:39,680 Right. 290 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:41,760 So our job is to re-present Jesus, right? 291 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,480 To invite them to relationship with Jesus because Jesus is actually the one that transforms 292 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:46,480 lives. 293 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:47,480 And I always think it's interesting. 294 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,480 This is not a trick question, but it is a little bit. 295 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,520 I ask people this question because I want to understand like how they've actually read 296 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:53,520 the Bible. 297 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,520 Sure. 298 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,240 And I asked them, I said, what is the gospel that Jesus Christ preached? 299 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,000 Most of the time, the answer I get is he came to save us from our sins. 300 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,680 And I was like, that's the gospel that Jesus preached. 301 00:13:06,680 --> 00:13:07,680 Yeah. 302 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:08,680 Right. 303 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:12,320 And I was like, I'm pretty sure I read it and it says, repent for the kingdom of heaven 304 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,320 is at hand. 305 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,320 Right. 306 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,400 Now that interaction with heaven, now you're able to, it's here and it's ready to be interacted 307 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:24,240 with is available through the life, death, burial and resurrection of Christ, which we 308 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,240 proclaim. 309 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:30,000 And I stress life because his life tells us why the death, burial and resurrection matter. 310 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Right. 311 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Right. 312 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,100 And it also gives us instruction on how to live. 313 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:35,840 But it is so quickly people go, well, we're going to go proclaim the gospel. 314 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,840 I was like, well, which gospel? 315 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,240 What are you actually saying? 316 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,760 Are you actually proclaiming that the kingdom is here and a better way of life is at hand 317 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,000 and you're being invited into it? 318 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:51,480 Or are you preaching a gospel that says you are decrepit and terrible, but don't worry. 319 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,480 We have a squeegee that we can clean you with. 320 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,080 And maybe you can squeak into heaven. 321 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,080 Right. 322 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,520 The good news is there's heaven on earth here now. 323 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:05,400 There's the presence of the spirit, the presence of Jesus here now in this life, right? 324 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,520 Not some life, you know, the life we're waiting for and we're excited for. 325 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,020 We should be excited for it today. 326 00:14:11,020 --> 00:14:12,020 Eternal life starts now. 327 00:14:12,020 --> 00:14:13,020 Yeah. 328 00:14:13,020 --> 00:14:14,840 When you say yes to Jesus, eternal life starts now. 329 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:15,840 Yeah. 330 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:16,840 Yeah. 331 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,720 And to your point, because I really want to stress this because I think somebody could 332 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,800 hear what we're saying and run with it. 333 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,040 We're not saying you don't talk about sin. 334 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,040 No. 335 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:29,280 Sin, like you, when Jesus saves you, you are saved from something, but you're actually 336 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,800 saved from life without God. 337 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,840 I think you're saved to something. 338 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:34,840 You're saved to something. 339 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:35,840 You're saved from and to. 340 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:36,840 You're saved to life with God. 341 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,320 You're saved to life with God, yeah. 342 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,400 And so what we're trying to, the reason I bring this up is because the mentality shift 343 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,960 in the way that we present the gospel can't be fire insurance. 344 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,560 Because I think a lot of evangelical systems have been geared around, we need to save people 345 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,560 from hell. 346 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,400 We actually need to save people to a reality that they're being invited into that changes 347 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:57,800 you from the inside out. 348 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:58,800 Right. 349 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,800 So it's not fear-based, it's love-based. 350 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:00,800 It's love-based, yeah. 351 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:07,280 So you often hear that Rowan verse where we quote the first half, where it's like, oh, 352 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,640 the wages of sinners death, and it's like, finish the verse. 353 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,640 Right. 354 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:11,640 Finish the verse. 355 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,200 But the gift of God is eternal life. 356 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,920 And that's a big but in that one. 357 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,360 That's a Ben-sized but right there. 358 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,120 That is a big but. 359 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,160 And so we, but oftentimes we just stop at the wages of sinner death and then we're like, 360 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,440 see, this is what's happening. 361 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,840 You're all going to die and blah, blah, blah. 362 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,160 And then we're like, well, where are you going to go when you die? 363 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,320 I was like, that in itself actually negates the relationship we have with God. 364 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,320 Yeah. 365 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,320 Right. 366 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,560 It circumnavigates it to where we're like, okay, it's about where are we going? 367 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,520 And it's like, no, it's about the relationship you have with God. 368 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,800 It has a reward of being in fellowship with the Father, with the Creator, with our Savior, 369 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,080 with our Redeemer. 370 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,800 We get to spend eternity with Him. 371 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:49,800 Right. 372 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:50,800 Right. 373 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:51,800 All right. 374 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,920 We're not just trying to, sometimes we can circumnavigate that and be like, oh, well, 375 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,920 we're just trying to get to heaven. 376 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,080 And it's like, okay, well, would you go to a stranger's house and just walk in and be 377 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,080 like, oh, hey, I'm here. 378 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,080 Yeah. 379 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,080 Right. 380 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,080 At least in Alaska, that's a good way to get shot. 381 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,960 That's a real good way to get shot in Alaska. 382 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,560 Or to have the dog sicked on you. 383 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:08,560 Yeah. 384 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,560 Well, yeah. 385 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Yeah. 386 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:11,560 Everybody's got dogs. 387 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,560 Or the moose, you know. 388 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:13,560 Yeah. 389 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:14,560 Some people got moose. 390 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,560 Man, you ever been close to a moose? 391 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:16,720 I have up in Anchorage. 392 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,720 They're so big. 393 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:18,720 Yeah. 394 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:19,720 They're massive. 395 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,000 Like, so people, like I was explaining to them that there's actually more moose incidents 396 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,000 than there are bear. 397 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,000 Yeah, that's crazy. 398 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,400 Because, you know, bears, they're like, well, we eat whatever. 399 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,400 Yeah. 400 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,880 And like they're not interested in fighting with people. 401 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,600 But moose, man, they can be mean. 402 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,600 Right. 403 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:31,600 Mean guys. 404 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,600 Just honoree. 405 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,600 Yeah. 406 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:34,760 The gals are mean too. 407 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,000 So I'm not, I don't want to be sexist here. 408 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,080 Like all sexes of moose, all mean. 409 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,960 I am more worried about the female moose with the calf. 410 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:43,960 Oh yeah. 411 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:44,960 100%. 412 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:45,960 Yeah. 413 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,640 They should say mama moose because I like the mama moose syndrome because like it's 414 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,640 more than mama bear. 415 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,640 Because you will get the horns. 416 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,640 They like wrecked cars. 417 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:53,640 Yeah. 418 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,640 It's crazy. 419 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:55,640 Well, and yeah. 420 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,280 I probably wouldn't have to do that too much here. 421 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,920 You know, so whoever is our listener in Belgium, like you're probably like, what's a moose? 422 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:02,920 No, I'm just kidding. 423 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,320 You know what a moose is. 424 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,240 But you probably haven't seen one. 425 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,240 Yeah. 426 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,240 Yeah. 427 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,240 Yeah. 428 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,240 Do you see one up in person? 429 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,120 You should go Google one and then like look at the size and then be like, oh, these things 430 00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:14,120 are massive. 431 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:16,480 They're probably like, if you have a good phone, you could probably, you know, do one 432 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,240 of those AR things into your living room and see how big it is. 433 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,240 Terrify you. 434 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,240 Yeah. 435 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,720 So, but to the point of all of that, it's like we're actually, rather than we're trying 436 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:31,200 to teach sin management, because I think that's sometimes what churches are, or I've heard 437 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,160 this phrase because you're talking about love the sin, hate the sinner, right? 438 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,740 So what then people try to do is they take hating the sin and they start to try to find 439 00:17:38,740 --> 00:17:41,960 ways to demonize people to not make them people. 440 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:42,960 Yeah. 441 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:43,960 Right. 442 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,520 So I understand the mentality of hate the sin. 443 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,160 I don't even dislike that idea. 444 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,080 But what we've done with it is we've now used it as ammunition to not love people that we 445 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,080 have to love. 446 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,080 Yeah. 447 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,920 By the way, there are people in my life that I know that I have to love and I'm not excited 448 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,320 about it, but I do know it's the way of Jesus. 449 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,320 He's talking about me, by the way. 450 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,320 Yes, that's exactly it. 451 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,320 The audience probably knows that. 452 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:12,080 I want to go back to that verse, you know, Jesus talking about the two commandments, 453 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,080 right? 454 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,080 His, his response. 455 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,080 Yeah. 456 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,080 By the way, Brian brought a whole sermon for you. 457 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,080 I did. 458 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,080 I wrote it. 459 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,080 I'm a pastor, right? 460 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,080 So I wrote a sermon. 461 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,080 You guys get ready. 462 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,200 You know, the words are gone with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. 463 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,800 That's the first and greatest commandment. 464 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,720 And then second is this love your neighbor as yourself and all the law and the prophets 465 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,120 hang on these two commandments. 466 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:33,120 Yes. 467 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:39,160 I think that last part is so important to, to, to really emphasize the importance of 468 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,920 loving God and loving others. 469 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:41,920 Yes. 470 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,680 And that word hang, you know, I love strong concordance, right? 471 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,280 I love different translations. 472 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,360 I recently ran into this, this ideology that I didn't, wasn't too aware of the King James 473 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:56,080 only movement, you know, and I don't want to discredit anybody out there that believes 474 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,880 that, but I love the kind of rich tapestry of God's word. 475 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:05,280 When you look at different translations and when you look at the original language words, 476 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,120 you know, which I think that I use a website, blue letter Bible dot. 477 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:09,120 That's great. 478 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:10,120 Yeah. 479 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:11,120 And helps you get down into the road. 480 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:15,880 And really, so that word hang was really interesting to me because it literally means to hang, 481 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,880 to suspend. 482 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,960 It's only used seven times in the new Testament. 483 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,600 This being one of them, two other ones kind of hanging off the hand or hanging around 484 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:25,600 the neck. 485 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:32,000 The other four Jesus hanging on the cross, you know, and it kind of, it just really emphasizes 486 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000 love. 487 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Yeah. 488 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,000 What does God do? 489 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,000 God loves us. 490 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Jesus hangs on the cross. 491 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Yeah. 492 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,040 So, and, and so from a Binnock perspective, like Judaism, Jewish perspective, one of the 493 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,440 things that that's going to be is they're going to call it a yolk. 494 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:45,440 Yeah. 495 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,440 So the two commands are the yolk. 496 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,280 In other words, it's the way that your rabbi interprets Torah. 497 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,960 And so he's saying he's in everything that you read in Torah comes through love God and 498 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,480 love other people. 499 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,520 And the reason that's important is because I think we have a tendency to read the old 500 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,800 Testament where say, well, it's fire and brimstone. 501 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:11,080 If that's the case, then Jesus is a liar because Jesus says, I came to represent the father 502 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,520 and he says the entire Torah is about loving God and loving other people. 503 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,920 Oh, and he also claims to be the fulfillment. 504 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:17,920 Fulfillment. 505 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:18,920 Yes. 506 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:19,920 Sure. 507 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,920 Exactly. 508 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:21,920 He's literally Torah made flesh. 509 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,480 You see that in 95 where he says, I didn't come to abolish the law, but to fulfill the 510 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,480 law. 511 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,480 So if, if, if the law. 512 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,680 This is what it looks like when put on display. 513 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,680 Yeah. 514 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,400 If the law was fire and brimstone, then why did Jesus live? 515 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,400 Yeah. 516 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,280 It's a vast misunderstanding. 517 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,240 And one of the reasons we spent 43 episodes in Torah is to help people understand you. 518 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:46,260 If you read it in American ease, you're going to misunderstand this, but what is God doing 519 00:20:46,260 --> 00:20:50,600 in the midst of a people to actually make them different? 520 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,000 You know, Leviticus, by the way, I love those episodes and we may do more in Leviticus because 521 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,000 I just got a Leviticus book. 522 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,000 It's a great book. 523 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,440 It's a great book. 524 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,400 And usually people are scared of it because they're like, I don't know what to do with 525 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,400 these things. 526 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,400 Right. 527 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,840 Well, I mean, there, there are chapters that when you read it, you're like, how do I preach 528 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,840 this? 529 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,840 Yeah. 530 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:08,840 So there, there is a term of this for today. 531 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,320 What is the chapter where it's talking about like different sexual purity laws? 532 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,320 Like that's a rough one. 533 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,000 If you had to bring that on Sunday morning, you're doing a chapter by chapter. 534 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Sure. 535 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,280 That'd be a rough one on Sunday morning. 536 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,280 Right. 537 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,000 So our church, you're lucky to get all the teenagers that week. 538 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:27,720 We started a series of a year long series, cover to cover the gospel story. 539 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,480 I don't remember if we talked about that in Leviticus, but we haven't hit every book. 540 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,800 But you know, most of the major stories. 541 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,160 It's really hard to do that. 542 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,160 Yeah. 543 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,520 I mean, it's been just a year time, right, but kind of showing Jesus shows up in every 544 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,760 aspect of the Old Testament. 545 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:43,760 You know, we're still in the Old Testament. 546 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,960 And he should because he's the Torah made flesh. 547 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,960 Because he is. 548 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:47,960 Yeah. 549 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Right. 550 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:49,960 It's one of those things that we were talking about. 551 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,760 I've talked about in prophetic word before, right? 552 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,760 In prophecy. 553 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,360 So in like Isaiah, I'm just going to use Isaiah as an example. 554 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:57,440 You read the suffering servant. 555 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,440 People go, well, that's Jesus. 556 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,440 I was like, well, it will be. 557 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,440 It will be. 558 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,800 I was like, but it actually has a context in this moment. 559 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,600 And then Jesus is also going to step into that context. 560 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:11,540 And because he knows the context of this moment, when he steps into it here, something significant 561 00:22:11,540 --> 00:22:12,540 is going on. 562 00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:17,720 And the writers pick that up and they're like, hey, Jesus is stepping into this context 563 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:18,720 and this context. 564 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:19,720 He's redeeming our history. 565 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,720 Yeah. 566 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,720 Yeah. 567 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,000 Because I always want people to go backwards, forward, not forward, backwards. 568 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,160 You know, so yes, see Jesus all the way through because Jesus has always been there. 569 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,640 Well, we make that, we make that problem today, right? 570 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,840 We look at that time from a 2020 lens, right? 571 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,320 Or 2024 lens now. 572 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,920 And it's natural for us to do that, but we have to see what was the context of that at 573 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:42,920 that day. 574 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:43,920 Correct. 575 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,080 You know, because there's idioms, right? 576 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,920 Paul writes all kinds of local idioms into his speech that we wouldn't know without studying 577 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,920 that that we don't understand. 578 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,400 Well, this, this is a fun one. 579 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,220 We talked about when we were doing John three, so because we're talking about love. 580 00:22:56,220 --> 00:22:58,960 And so one of the most famous verses on love is John 3 16. 581 00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:59,960 Forgot to love the world. 582 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:03,160 He gave his one and only son who ever believed in him would not perish, but have eternal 583 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,160 life. 584 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,920 And I don't think you can separate that one from John 3 17. 585 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,920 Correct. 586 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,400 God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through 587 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,400 him. 588 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,400 Yeah. 589 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,360 So we were having this conversation and I, and I, and we were reading through that and 590 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:19,720 we were talking about this conversation and John, because he references the snake being 591 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:20,720 lifted high. 592 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,720 Cool. 593 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,760 We were talking about that in numbers, the, the bronze serpent. 594 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:29,880 And I asked the question, I said, when Nicodemus is talking to Jesus, what does he think Jesus 595 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,160 is talking about? 596 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,600 Because we have the benefit of already knowing Jesus is going to go be on the cross, crucified, 597 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,640 resurrected, and he is the, the one and only son of God. 598 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,640 Right? 599 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Like we have that benefit of knowing that. 600 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,060 So what does Nicodemus think he's talking about? 601 00:23:46,060 --> 00:23:49,240 Because Nicodemus doesn't seem to understand nor do the disciples. 602 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,640 John obviously understands because he's writing it after it happened. 603 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,680 So but in that story, if you actually read it and you take the idea of Jesus, but you 604 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:04,680 replace the idea with Israel being God's firstborn, which is what he says in Exodus, Jesus and 605 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,960 Nicodemus are having this conversation about how Israel was always supposed to liberate 606 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,680 the entire world. 607 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,300 Now they ultimately don't. 608 00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:21,620 So Jesus as a representative of Israel comes and does that and becomes that, that same 609 00:24:21,620 --> 00:24:22,900 firstborn son. 610 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:26,020 If you understand the context of this conversation with Nicodemus, then when Jesus comes back 611 00:24:26,020 --> 00:24:31,920 from the dead, he goes, Oh, he's like, cause like, I mean, yes, cause even for Nicodemus, 612 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,080 he's hearing, he's like, okay, Israel was, it was always about all nations. 613 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,520 It was always about redemption of mankind. 614 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,400 And so that's why Nicodemus is even blown away. 615 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,400 What he's talking about. 616 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,000 He's like the Jewish people were always supposed to be about God loved the world. 617 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,680 So he sent you so that all the world could be saved. 618 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,680 Right. 619 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,680 Right. 620 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,680 And who was Nicodemus? 621 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,680 Teacher of the law. 622 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,680 Teacher of the law. 623 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,680 Right. 624 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,240 So he was not just some random dude who showed up one night. 625 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,840 Well, he's called a, he's called a teacher of teachers in traditional history. 626 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,840 Yeah. 627 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,720 So he's, he's someone who knows Torah. 628 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,080 Like he knows Torah. 629 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,080 He knows prophets. 630 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,080 Yeah. 631 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:13,800 He knows that language and then he's still going to Jesus and being like, okay, you gotta, 632 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,400 you gotta share some of what's going on here. 633 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,960 Rabbi David Foreman, who I've quoted multiple times here, comments that he says when you're 634 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,760 reading the text and he's talking about the old Testament because he's an Orthodox Jew, 635 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,720 he doesn't accept Jesus as Messiah, but he says when you're reading the text, sometimes 636 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,200 we fall into what he calls the lullaby effect where we've heard the story so many times, 637 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,000 we bring our assumptions into it. 638 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,120 And it says when you read the text very frequently, he's like, it's okay to do that once in a 639 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:39,920 while because you're just reading and getting it inside of you and stuff. 640 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,380 But when you're actually studying and you're going to coming to a text, you need to stop 641 00:25:43,380 --> 00:25:49,020 and remove all your biases from it and say, read the text, put it in its context and like 642 00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:54,200 remove all the things like that you know are going to happen because you know the future 643 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,040 in this moment. 644 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,040 What does this mean? 645 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,040 Right? 646 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,040 Right. 647 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,040 I know it came before it. 648 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,480 I don't know what comes after it, but in this moment, what is the speaker saying and what 649 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,920 are the hearers here and how does that impact the things around them? 650 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,920 Yeah. 651 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,120 Well, coming back to this, this loving God piece, right in scripture, we're called the 652 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:14,120 bride of Christ. 653 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:16,760 The church is called the bride, bride of Christ. 654 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,920 Now I know healthy marriages are a thing that might not exist everywhere, but that's the 655 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,840 example we're going with today, right? 656 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,680 When you are in a good, healthy marriage, right? 657 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,360 You are striving to spend time together, right? 658 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:32,320 You are striving to be together. 659 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,280 You are striving to get to know one another better. 660 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,920 And when marriages fall apart, it's when that gets broken somewhere along the way. 661 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,560 When that desire to connect with the person gets, when that gets broken, the marriages 662 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,560 start to drift apart and things happen and then that's when families break. 663 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,560 Right? 664 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,840 But there's always a moment, there's always some moment where it's like, okay, what's 665 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,920 starting to break that up? 666 00:26:54,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Our job, one of the things that we have to do if we are truly saying yes to our calling 667 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,560 as a bride of Christ is seek after Christ, right? 668 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,560 Seek after Him and get to know Him, spend time with Him. 669 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,560 Right? 670 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:15,280 Like if I never took my wife out on a date or just never made time for her, it would 671 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,280 not go well. 672 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,280 Right? 673 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,080 I could probably say the same about your wives too, right? 674 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,560 It would be weird if you took my wife on a date. 675 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,560 It would. 676 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,560 It's not what I was getting at Ben, but thank you. 677 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,560 Thank you. 678 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,560 She might enjoy it. 679 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,080 It's not what I was getting at. 680 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,320 If Ben did not take his wife on dates or spend time with his wife, there we go. 681 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,880 Let's clarify here. 682 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,560 Please don't date other people's wives. 683 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,000 Yeah, please don't date other people's wives. 684 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,880 That is a nugget you can take from today's episode. 685 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,880 Do not date other people's wives. 686 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,880 Oh God, love others, don't date other people's wives. 687 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,880 That's the name of the episode right there. 688 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,880 Oh man. 689 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:53,860 But as you, but as me as a husband, as I spend more time with my wife, what I find is our 690 00:27:53,860 --> 00:27:55,640 relationship gets stronger. 691 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,640 Right? 692 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,640 Right. 693 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,000 It doesn't mean that there's definitely times where you have tough conversations. 694 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,840 There's definitely times where you get called out. 695 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:04,840 Right? 696 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:10,600 But our love is growing stronger when we make sure we take that time. 697 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,880 And so we, with our relationship with God, if we are not taking that time to be with 698 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,480 him, we cannot pour out his love. 699 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,480 Yeah. 700 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,480 Right? 701 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,960 Like if we're trying to pour out his love without spending time with the father, we're 702 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,320 going, it's not going to go well. 703 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,480 Right? 704 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:34,040 So you have to spend time with God to like have that be a big part of the loving God 705 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,960 piece, the spending time. 706 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,960 Yeah. 707 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,960 And that's getting into the word. 708 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,960 That's prayer. 709 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,960 That's meditation. 710 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:45,240 That's Sabbath, by the way, which is, it seems to be like a curse word for the church. 711 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,400 It's really interesting to me that of the 10 commandments, if I told you to, you didn't 712 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,280 have to obey one of the 10 commandments, right? 713 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,520 Somebody would be like, are you crazy? 714 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,680 You know, I was like, you don't need to honor your mother and father. 715 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,200 You know, you don't need to, don't worry about not having other gods, but yet we're completely 716 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,080 fine with just completely not honoring the Sabbath. 717 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,080 And yet the Sabbath itself is something that is actually built to rejuvenate us, connect 718 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:14,680 us to the nature of God and help us to trust in his power, not ours, which by the way, 719 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,300 seems like it would be important if you're operating in the Holy spirit to trust in his 720 00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:22,440 power, not yours, because a lot of the time when people get really screwed up in ministry, 721 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,600 specifically prophetic ministry is where they start trusting in their popularity, their 722 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,680 platform, their authority, and stop relying completely on Jesus every second of the day. 723 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,680 Right? 724 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,280 Because we're conduits of God's mercy. 725 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,840 We're the royal priesthood, which means that we are bringing the nature of God to people. 726 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,840 Right? 727 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,840 It's not our checks. 728 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,280 We're just delivering them. 729 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,280 Right. 730 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,280 Yeah. 731 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,280 You know? 732 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,280 Yeah. 733 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,280 And we've seen that, right? 734 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:54,800 In recent years of very famous, well-known, well-respected, you know, people who have, 735 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,480 it's been revealed that they have really deep sin, you know, and, and some of that's hidden, 736 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,480 some of that's not. 737 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,040 There's other people who around them excused it or felt fear and so they didn't talk about 738 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:11,400 it or, you know, there is no fear in love, but rather perfect love drives out fear. 739 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,400 Yeah. 740 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,760 And what you're talking about with like, with, with the fear thing, it's if there is fear 741 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,120 in a ministry, I got news for you. 742 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,520 You're doing, you need to get out. 743 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,520 Yeah. 744 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,520 Yeah. 745 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,760 And that's not like you're nervous about doing something like, will it work or not work? 746 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,680 That's not the kind of fear we're talking about where you're like, I don't know whether 747 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,360 what we're doing is good or not. 748 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,360 Right. 749 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,920 You need to get out or you need to have real conversations with the people running it. 750 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,720 If you ask the question, is this how Jesus would lead us? 751 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,720 Yeah. 752 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,240 And you can't say yes to that, you know? 753 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,240 Yeah. 754 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,000 Well, and this, and this comes, okay, so we've talked a lot about love of God, so, but this, 755 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,920 this is really plays into love other people part. 756 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,600 So Spencer and I are in a unique kind of ministry relationship because like I'm on committee 757 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,160 for young life. 758 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,520 My wife is a volunteer for young life as well. 759 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,520 We serve at the church together. 760 00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,800 We do music together, all sorts of things. 761 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,120 We have, we have a podcast together. 762 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,400 I don't know if you know that, but this is shocking information. 763 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,800 But if Spencer sees something in my life or I see something in his life and I'm like, 764 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,080 Hey, I see this in your life and I just don't understand how this is bringing you closer 765 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,080 to Jesus. 766 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,880 Like these are real conversations we can have and I have them because I love him, not because 767 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,460 I'm trying to beat him up. 768 00:31:21,460 --> 00:31:24,520 But the other thing that comes with that is I've spent the time building connection with 769 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,520 him. 770 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,520 That's huge. 771 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,720 I quote pastor Reverend almost Reverend Sarah Harney from last, I believe it was last week. 772 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,880 You can't correct without connection. 773 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,480 And you can try, you can try, it's not going to be good. 774 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,480 It's not going to be effective. 775 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,320 It's not, well, it's not, a lot of times it's going to be filled with animosity. 776 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,600 It's not going to be filled with love. 777 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,520 I was like, if you can't, if you don't have like genuine love for somebody to come and 778 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,520 talk to them, then you should not be the one bringing it. 779 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,520 Yeah. 780 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,520 Right. 781 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:59,680 And I think that that's coupled with this shift from brimstone theology, right? 782 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,360 To kingdom theology, you know, that we're preaching the kingdom because we want people 783 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,600 to know and love Jesus and be loved by Jesus. 784 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,280 And we want to draw them into that, right? 785 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,360 We don't want it to be fear based. 786 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,480 We want it to be love based because God is love. 787 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,480 Yeah. 788 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,440 And it's not, it's not that there's not judgment like revelation. 789 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,280 And many of the books are very clear there is judgment, but the invitation is not judgment. 790 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,800 The invitation is love. 791 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,760 And I liken it to this, it's like, if you, if, if I have my kids grow up and I said, 792 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,520 you want to live in my house, there's some rules. 793 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,520 Yeah. 794 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,920 If you don't want to live here, you don't have to follow those rules. 795 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,200 But if you want to be here, this is what life like this looks like. 796 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,520 This is what life in the Edwards family looks like. 797 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,360 And they're like, well, I don't want to do that, but I want to live here. 798 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,400 Well, that's not how that works. 799 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,400 Yeah. 800 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,400 That's not how that works. 801 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,400 There's a way that life is here. 802 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,400 Right. 803 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,760 If you want to live life a different way, you have to go out and I'm not kicking my 804 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,320 kids out. 805 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,480 You're choosing not to live in, in the way that the world, my, my world is supposed to 806 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,480 be. 807 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,320 Now you take that from human example, me, and you expand it to God. 808 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,960 This is God's world. 809 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,520 It operates a certain way. 810 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,420 And when we operate outside of that, we get this corruption called sin that literally 811 00:33:06,420 --> 00:33:07,420 kills us. 812 00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:08,420 Yeah. 813 00:33:08,420 --> 00:33:11,760 You know, you think about cancer, deformity, mental illness, all these things that kind 814 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,360 of come as a result of brokenness in the world. 815 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,360 Yeah. 816 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,920 And the interesting thing about that is the more studies they've done around death and 817 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:24,800 disease, the more that they found, if you have a connection to, they call it like faith 818 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:30,560 or religion, but if you're like, have a connection to religion, in my case, I'm going to say 819 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,960 God, if you have a connection with God, you're less likely to experience those things. 820 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:35,960 Right. 821 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,160 It's not that you won't, but you actually have a less likelihood if you are dwelling 822 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,960 with dwelling with the father. 823 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:41,960 Right. 824 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,600 Well, and that, and that comes back to this idea that we talked about in Genesis. 825 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,280 There are these curses that people call them that are levied on, on humanity where the 826 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,240 ground is going to be tough to operate and it's going to be difficult to get pregnant. 827 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,840 And it's going to, you have to list that episode about, there's some Hebrew going on there 828 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,120 that it's not actually childbirth, but actually getting pregnant. 829 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,480 And these are the things that are levied out that are going to happen in community. 830 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,560 And God says in Deuteronomy, he says, if you follow me, the ground's going to yield easily. 831 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,560 Yeah. 832 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,080 You're going to have tons of babies. 833 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,080 Yeah. 834 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,080 Right. 835 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,160 And you're like, oh, you know, great, the guys are going to get fruit of the field and 836 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,160 blah, blah, blah. 837 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,160 And they're like, way to, way to be chauvinistic. 838 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,920 I was like, you don't understand that it, what these things that are were curses are 839 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,440 being reversed when you live in harmony with God. 840 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,360 In other words, you're going to be brought back to the garden, right? 841 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,520 You're going to be back back to this garden life to Leviticus 23. 842 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,640 He says, you're literally going to, I'm going to walk with you to restoration. 843 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,640 Yeah. 844 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,120 Like if you want the garden back, it's available. 845 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,700 Yeah. 846 00:34:40,700 --> 00:34:43,880 But there's a way to live to have the garden come. 847 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,640 And we're like, well, God's not bringing the goodness. 848 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,160 And I was like, no, you can't receive the goodness. 849 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,440 I'm about to preach. 850 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,440 Hold on. 851 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,920 You can't receive the goodness in this condition. 852 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,320 It's why Jesus came to change your nature. 853 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,000 Because you weren't capable of receiving the forgiveness before. 854 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,020 But when you've trust in the faithfulness of Jesus Christ, it changes who you are. 855 00:35:05,020 --> 00:35:08,400 Now you're the very righteousness of God and you receive the forgiveness and you're 856 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,920 enabled to walk in the spirit. 857 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:10,920 Right. 858 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,880 Like this is the good news, right? 859 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,020 That we are, we were one way. 860 00:35:15,020 --> 00:35:18,480 And now after interacting with God to steal from the chosen, I'm fully acknowledging I'm 861 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,880 stealing this quote. 862 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,480 Now I'm a different way. 863 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,480 Right. 864 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,720 And the thing in between was him. 865 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:32,120 Now we foster that relationship and it impacts not only this, but it impacts the way we reach 866 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,120 out here. 867 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,880 I was thinking when you were talking about knowing your spouse, I typically have ketchup 868 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,360 on my eggs. 869 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,400 Right. 870 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,600 People don't necessarily know that. 871 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,040 So but when Tara, like if I go and I'll make myself food in the morning, I'll take it 872 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,960 out there and I'll sit down and go, because I forgot something. 873 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,720 She'll walk out and she'll hand me the ketchup. 874 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:52,560 I didn't ask for it, but she knows me. 875 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,560 Right. 876 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,200 And she knows what I'm frustrated with myself about. 877 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,240 And she anticipated my need because my wife is a way better spouse than I am. 878 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:01,240 Right. 879 00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:03,300 But like that's part of knowing. 880 00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:06,800 And like we've been married coming up on 14 years now. 881 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,600 And you start to just know things about people. 882 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,680 And I think the temptation in Christianity is like, well, we got to know everything about 883 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:13,680 God immediately. 884 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,200 I was like, no, you need to spend time with God and grow in your knowledge. 885 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,200 It's an upside out pyramid. 886 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,200 That's never going to end. 887 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,420 It's never going to end. 888 00:36:21,420 --> 00:36:24,240 And each time you think, you know, he's going to open up a whole new level. 889 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:25,960 And you're like, wow, I had no idea. 890 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,960 Right. 891 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,240 I feel like the more that I know about God, the less I know. 892 00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:31,560 Does that make sense? 893 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,560 Yeah. 894 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,560 There's still more. 895 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,560 There's so much more to know. 896 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,560 I only know this much. 897 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,560 Yeah. 898 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,000 And when it comes to loving God and loving people and the reason why we can't separate 899 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,480 that those two as well. 900 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:48,040 I mean, just go look at first John four where he's like, hey, if you say you love God, but 901 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,520 you hate your brother or sister. 902 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,520 Right. 903 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,000 So John's like, then you're a liar. 904 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Yeah. 905 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,000 Right. 906 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,000 Right. 907 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Powerful. 908 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Yeah. 909 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,000 Like a strong word. 910 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Like old pants on fire. 911 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,000 Hanging from a telephone wire. 912 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,000 Right. 913 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,160 Like he's like, you are not living in the call that the Lord's put on your life. 914 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,160 Yeah. 915 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:11,320 And then, and then John's the fun thing about this passage is then he goes and he's like, 916 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,080 this is what love is and talks about Jesus and what Jesus did. 917 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,080 Right. 918 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,080 Right. 919 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,080 You know, right after he makes a statement about you're calling God a liar for you can't 920 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,360 love your brother who is seen. 921 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,360 How can you love? 922 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,560 How could you love God who is unseen? 923 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,320 Now this, this in your head should connect you to the 10 commandments, right? 924 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,160 Because we're being told not to create images for God. 925 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,160 Yeah. 926 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,740 Now why do we not create images of God? 927 00:37:33,740 --> 00:37:36,680 Because there's something on earth that's already made in the image of God. 928 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,560 It's humanity. 929 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,660 God says, I made male and female together. 930 00:37:40,660 --> 00:37:42,700 They are the image of God. 931 00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:49,520 And so if you now go and make a idol that's supposed to be an image of God, how insulting 932 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,800 is that when he made you the image of God? 933 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,480 And he made your brother the image of God. 934 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,160 And if you look at your brother and you can't see the image of God, how could you possibly 935 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,800 love God who you can't see? 936 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,800 Yeah. 937 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:01,800 Yeah. 938 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,080 So you jump over to first Corinthians 13 where he talks about this, where he's like, Hey, 939 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,520 you can know everything, but if you don't love, it's worthless. 940 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,480 You can, you can be a superhero of the faith. 941 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,960 You can throw mountains in the sea. 942 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,680 You can like perform all sorts of miracles. 943 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,080 You can even sacrifice yourself. 944 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,080 Doesn't matter. 945 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,920 But then he goes into what love is. 946 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:20,920 Right. 947 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,920 Right. 948 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,840 And when you actually read that list and be like, Hey, I'm going to practice that to 949 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,880 the T without God. 950 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,840 It is extremely difficult. 951 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,840 Right? 952 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,840 Love is patient. 953 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,840 Love is kind. 954 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,840 Okay, great. 955 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,840 Doesn't envy. 956 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,840 All right. 957 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,840 It's not boastful. 958 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,840 Okay. 959 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,840 Keeps no record of wrong. 960 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,840 Oh, okay. 961 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,840 Yeah. 962 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,840 I'm going to get my list. 963 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:42,840 Like, right. 964 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,200 You know, like, I don't know about you, but I mean, there's definitely been times in my 965 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,520 marriage where it's like, well, you remember this time. 966 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,200 And then we've had to be like, we did that early on in our marriage. 967 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,120 We had to be like, no, like we are pushing that aside. 968 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,120 Yeah. 969 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,560 We are not holding onto the things of the past. 970 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,560 Right. 971 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,840 And then we have to be like, record of wrong, right? 972 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,280 Endures through all things. 973 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,280 Right. 974 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,520 And you know what? 975 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,520 How many things are all things? 976 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,520 A lot of them. 977 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,520 Just some of them. 978 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,520 Just some of them. 979 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,520 All of them. 980 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,360 And then, and then Paul closes that passage. 981 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,840 I was saying three things remain, faith, hope, and love. 982 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,760 And the greatest of these is love. 983 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,240 And then the crazy, the crazy thing I was thinking about as you're talking through first 984 00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:22,640 Corinthians is this is why when you come to Galatians, when we talk about the fruit of 985 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,320 the spirit, which we're going to do in two weeks, we're going to talk about the fruit 986 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,320 of the spirit in your life, because this is the, the physical evidence that God is moving 987 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,320 in your life. 988 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,320 Right. 989 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,520 He says the fruit of the spirit is love. 990 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,840 And there's a reason why the people in the Greek say that it's, it's almost like a semi-colon 991 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,840 there. 992 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,200 Love, and then joy, peace, patience, kindness, faith, illness, general self-control. 993 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,200 Right. 994 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,200 These are the things that describe this. 995 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,600 So the fruit of the spirit is love. 996 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,360 And these are the characteristics of love. 997 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,360 Right. 998 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,120 Because I think the, one of the things we have not talked about today, which is really 999 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:59,680 important, love is not subject to your definition. 1000 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,360 It's subject to God's. 1001 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,460 And what I mean by that is in, and especially in America today, so people who are in different 1002 00:40:06,460 --> 00:40:10,000 countries may have a different perspective, but there's a statement. 1003 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,040 They'll be like, love is love is love is love. 1004 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,040 Sure. 1005 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,680 And that's not true from a biblical perspective. 1006 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,000 It is not love to let somebody drown. 1007 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,960 It's not love to just say, you can do whatever you want. 1008 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,360 If I did that, my child would be insane. 1009 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,480 I love my child. 1010 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,880 And so I create parameters. 1011 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,320 And so I create structure. 1012 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,120 And so I, you know, it's not love. 1013 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,680 I remember, I remember you saying early on, it was one of our first episodes and your 1014 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,120 daughter was like, you don't love me because you won't let me have a donut. 1015 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,120 Oh yeah. 1016 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,120 Yeah. 1017 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:50,200 No, it's because I love you that you can't have a donut. 1018 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,640 And so there's always that flip side of it because I think we tend to absorb culture's 1019 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,920 definition of love rather than God's and there is room for that. 1020 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,480 But the way that God defines love is that there's joy, there's peace, there's patience, 1021 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,720 there's kindness, there's goodness, there's faithfulness, there's gentleness, there's 1022 00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:06,720 self-control. 1023 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:07,720 It does not envy. 1024 00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:08,720 It doesn't boast. 1025 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:09,720 Right. 1026 00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:12,760 Well, we've often coupled love with accepting. 1027 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:13,760 Correct. 1028 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,920 There's a degree to which that's true. 1029 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,920 Correct. 1030 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,800 But like you were talking about earlier, you're not going to be accepting of sin. 1031 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,800 Yeah. 1032 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,800 Right? 1033 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,800 Like I'm not going to be accepting of sin in my life. 1034 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,800 Right. 1035 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,800 Right. 1036 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,800 If I get convicted of sin, we're bringing that to the cross. 1037 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,800 Yeah. 1038 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,800 Okay. 1039 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,800 But I was- 1040 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,920 In your sin, I will love you, but I will not accept your sin. 1041 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,920 Yeah. 1042 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,320 So I was, this was a few years back when I was at a pastor's conference and they were 1043 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,200 talking about some tough issues. 1044 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,080 And then at the end of it, the speaker, he just asked one question. 1045 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,000 He's like, okay, are we able to love those who are broken? 1046 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,680 And then a friend of mine actually got up and said, if we have to ask that question 1047 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,200 as a group of pastors, we should not be in ministry. 1048 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,200 Wow. 1049 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,200 Yeah. 1050 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,200 Right? 1051 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,200 Which that is a fair, like- 1052 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,200 It's a fair statement. 1053 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,200 100% fair. 1054 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,240 Because like if we're saying, hey, we can't love broken people, AKA all of us- 1055 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:03,240 Yeah. 1056 00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:06,240 You, you, you, you, you, the audience. 1057 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:12,480 If we can't love broken people and we expect to run a fruitful ministry, it's not going 1058 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,480 to work. 1059 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,480 Right. 1060 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,480 It's going to fail every time. 1061 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,480 Right. 1062 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,680 And so we know we're not accepting of sin, but also if someone's not proclaiming Jesus 1063 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:27,920 as their Lord and savior, it's not my job to say, hey, you're, you're living a crap 1064 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:28,920 life. 1065 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:29,920 Right. 1066 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:30,920 It's my job to come alongside them and get to know them. 1067 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,960 Well, you're holding them to a standard they're not willing to accept for themselves, right? 1068 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,720 So that's going to immediately create conflict. 1069 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:41,400 I'm so glad that after this mini series, we're going into James because I feel like a lot 1070 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,880 of times in American Christianity, and so I'm only throwing ourselves under the bus 1071 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:45,880 here. 1072 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,880 Okay. 1073 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:53,320 That we have fallen in prey of James two, where we show, we, we tend to favor what we 1074 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,000 think is put together and helpful. 1075 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,000 Yeah. 1076 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,840 There, there's an old joke, you know, where, where like the, you show up to a church and 1077 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,840 they're like, Oh, you play guitar. 1078 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,840 You want to be in the worship team? 1079 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,840 Right. 1080 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,400 And then you're like, Oh, you're capable of reading. 1081 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,760 Would you like to lead a Bible study? 1082 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,760 Right. 1083 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,760 Oh, you like kids. 1084 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,760 Oh, you like kids. 1085 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,760 You want to be in kids ministry? 1086 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,760 Right. 1087 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:12,760 And none of you are drummers. 1088 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:13,760 Yeah. 1089 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,760 You know, well, you know, right? 1090 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,840 No, see when you're a drummer though, they're like, you play drums and then they like pick 1091 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,680 you up and set you behind the drum sound. 1092 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,400 They're like, okay, that's what we did. 1093 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,400 This is your home. 1094 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,680 They're like, you live here now. 1095 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,680 Yeah. 1096 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,160 We actually enclosed the drum cage and then I put a lock on it. 1097 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,360 I only let him out to record podcasts. 1098 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:36,440 There's a cot and a bucket, you know, you can do the math on what the bucket's for. 1099 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,280 But this idea is that we're, or somebody who makes really good money and gives a lot to 1100 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,960 the church and we're like, well, they're, you know, they're really valuable to the church. 1101 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,120 Well, are they? 1102 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,280 No, I don't want to discount that. 1103 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,520 It's like so many people with really good hearts give a ton of money and like a lot 1104 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,960 of ministry happens worldwide because people who make a lot of money give. 1105 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,960 Yeah, of course. 1106 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,120 But that doesn't necessarily mean because they're giving money, they're, they're a good 1107 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,120 member of the church or following Christ or those different things. 1108 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,720 Like we want those things to work in tandem. 1109 00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:12,520 It's more important that we're finding people who are about the mission. 1110 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,960 And then discipling those that are not. 1111 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:15,960 Yeah. 1112 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,960 Yeah. 1113 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,960 Amen. 1114 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,260 When we were, when I was preparing for this, one of the questions I was kind of wrestling 1115 00:44:20,260 --> 00:44:23,840 with is to get back to like the gifts themselves, right? 1116 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,440 Like where do they come from and what are they for? 1117 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,440 Yeah. 1118 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,440 Right. 1119 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,600 And you know, it's so clear to me that they come from the indwelling of the spirit. 1120 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,600 Right. 1121 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,600 Right. 1122 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,320 When we believe in Jesus Christ, when we confess with our mouths and believe in our heart that 1123 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,000 Christ is Lord, we're saved. 1124 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,640 We received the Holy Spirit. 1125 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:46,440 And by receiving the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit enacts these gifts in us, imparts these 1126 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,440 gifts to us. 1127 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,440 Right. 1128 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,440 And what are they for? 1129 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,440 They're for the betterment of the body. 1130 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,680 You know, there's a couple of scriptures I wanted to highlight that really talked about 1131 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:55,680 that. 1132 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:56,680 It's for the good of others, right? 1133 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,320 In the first Corinthians we would talk about chapter 13, but chapter 12 verses four through 1134 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,440 seven, there's different kinds of gifts, but the same spirit distributes them. 1135 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,120 They are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 1136 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:12,040 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in every one, it is the 1137 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,720 same God at work. 1138 00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:18,080 Now to each one, the manifestation of the spirit is given for the common good. 1139 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,080 Yes. 1140 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,440 And I love that word manifestation, right? 1141 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,360 It's, it is, it's like us participating in the incarnation. 1142 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,360 Yeah. 1143 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:31,640 And that we are becoming like Jesus and by becoming like Jesus, we receive the spirit 1144 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:37,240 and receive these gifts for the common good of others, you know, for loving others. 1145 00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:42,300 Well, and so, and so Paul, and you know this, but Paul is addressing an issue that they're 1146 00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:45,160 having is that each person is being really selfish with their gifts. 1147 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,160 Yeah. 1148 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,440 That they're, they're like, well, I have the spirit of prophecy and well, I have the spirit 1149 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,040 of speaking and I have the spirit of music and I have the spirit of healing. 1150 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,680 And he's like, well, there's not four different spirits, right? 1151 00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:02,040 There's one spirit that is giving gifts appropriately for you and it's not for you. 1152 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,040 Right. 1153 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,040 It's for everyone. 1154 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,040 Yeah. 1155 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,360 It's really interesting that there's this mentality and it's, it's not stuck in just 1156 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,360 Corinth. 1157 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,360 It's, it's all over the place. 1158 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,360 It's today. 1159 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,360 Yeah. 1160 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,240 That we have this talent and we're like, well, it's for me. 1161 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:15,240 Yeah. 1162 00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:16,880 Now, listen, you can get the benefit of it. 1163 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:17,880 I mean, here's the thing. 1164 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,440 I've been singing, playing music for a really long time. 1165 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,440 I get the benefit that I can hang out and worship in my, in my room playing guitar and 1166 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:31,080 sing and just, just, just, just, just, you want me to come worship in your room? 1167 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,960 So it's also not for me. 1168 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,960 It's for everybody. 1169 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,440 And so like, and that's not to say that I think there's also a little bit of five smiles 1170 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,640 being people like, they're like, well, it wasn't me. 1171 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:43,920 It was Jesus singing through me. 1172 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,920 Listen, it wasn't that good. 1173 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,200 Like, you know, you know what I mean? 1174 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,360 We are combining with God to serve, but there's also something when somebody is really humble 1175 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:57,000 with their speaking gift and they preach and you feel the power in what they say, it's 1176 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,000 not their power. 1177 00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,000 Right. 1178 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,040 They're yielding their gift to God and they're actually sharing it. 1179 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,840 How many times have you talked to somebody and they, and you, they're like, oh yeah, 1180 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,920 the sermon touched me because God talked to me about this. 1181 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,600 And you're like, that sermon didn't even talk about that. 1182 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,600 Sure. 1183 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,600 Yeah. 1184 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,200 But the spirit of God used your willingness to use your gift and spoke to them in a different 1185 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,200 way. 1186 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,200 It's a manifestation. 1187 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,200 Yeah. 1188 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,680 I had a run at our church where I preached, preached a few times and each time someone 1189 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,800 came up to me like this really spoke to me and this is really great how you drew that 1190 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,800 out. 1191 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,880 And I was like, I didn't even talk about that. 1192 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,920 But what they were receiving was good. 1193 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:31,920 Right. 1194 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,920 Right. 1195 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,320 It was like, I don't like, I remember it was one during Christmas that I spoke and I was, 1196 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,200 and I was talking about Bethlehem being the place where sacrificial lambs are raised up 1197 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,200 and stuff like that. 1198 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:46,680 And a lady came up to me and she like talked about, I forget the story, but it was, it 1199 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,520 was something like Jesus turning water into wine or something like that. 1200 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,080 And I was like, I wasn't even there. 1201 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,640 Like wasn't even in that passage. 1202 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,080 But something you spoke sparked something in their spirit, which God used to change 1203 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,080 that. 1204 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,080 Right. 1205 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,240 And that's not to say that God didn't, you didn't preach the exact sermon that God wanted. 1206 00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:05,240 Yeah. 1207 00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:06,240 Right. 1208 00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:07,240 Like I don't understand how he does that. 1209 00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:11,800 I mean, here's the deal at Shavuot at the following of the sparing at Pentecost, right? 1210 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,200 They were speaking one language and everybody understood it in their own, which we're going 1211 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,160 to talk about in a couple of weeks when we talk about tongues. 1212 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,160 That'll be good. 1213 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,160 Yeah. 1214 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,560 You know, I don't understand how that works, but I do, I do kind of understand where sometimes 1215 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,360 you'll say something and it gets translated and they hear something else because God is 1216 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,560 doing something with them. 1217 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,560 Yeah. 1218 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,840 So I have had that happen in my life and it's usually when they're, and you can feel it 1219 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,440 when you're speaking or when you're participating. 1220 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,120 And like, and the reason I bring up preaching and music is because I think sometimes people 1221 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:44,000 say, well, the spiritual gifts, it's, you know, healing tongues prophecy, right? 1222 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,000 Right. 1223 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,160 I was like, no, it's also preaching, serving, administration, generosity, you know, like 1224 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,360 it's all of these things that are not natural to humanity. 1225 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,360 Right. 1226 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,160 They're well, they're natural to the correct man. 1227 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,080 They're not natural to the corrupt man. 1228 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,080 Yeah. 1229 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,080 Right. 1230 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,080 Yeah. 1231 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,200 And I think one of the things we got to talk about when talking about loving others too 1232 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,960 is that love is sacrificial. 1233 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:06,960 Yes. 1234 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,960 Right. 1235 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,960 We have a love, right? 1236 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,960 Because you were talking about hanging. 1237 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:10,960 Right. 1238 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,280 So the greatest example of Jesus's love is actually using this word hanging of commands 1239 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,280 on a cross. 1240 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,280 Right. 1241 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,040 And then Jesus models this throughout his life too, right? 1242 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,120 Like in John 15, 13, no greater love than to lay down your life for a friend. 1243 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:30,000 And then in John 13, I believe when he's washing disciples feet, right? 1244 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,000 Right. 1245 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,720 He's like, okay, I'm going to serve you. 1246 00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:35,360 I'm going to serve you. 1247 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,360 I'm going to be a blessing to you. 1248 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,360 It comes back to that. 1249 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,360 You can't correct without connection. 1250 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,360 Right. 1251 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,360 Yeah. 1252 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,360 Right. 1253 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,960 If you have to have that connection and often, and if people are wondering like, well, how 1254 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,400 do I connect with people? 1255 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,640 I was like, go, go serve them in some way. 1256 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:50,640 Yeah. 1257 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,640 Right. 1258 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,640 They have a need, offer to help. 1259 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,640 Yeah. 1260 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,640 Right. 1261 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,480 A few years back we were building a house and I had, I had friends who were like, oh, 1262 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,480 I'll come help you. 1263 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,440 And a number of the friends that I had, they were just, they were like, we just want to 1264 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,440 help you with this. 1265 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,200 We have no idea what we're doing. 1266 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,200 Yeah. 1267 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,200 Right. 1268 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,200 And so it was like, they would show up. 1269 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,200 I would take lead. 1270 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,960 I'd talk through what we're doing. 1271 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:10,960 Yeah. 1272 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,240 And it was a lot of like teaching and coaching along the way, but it was like, but it was 1273 00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:16,480 still stuff I couldn't do on my own. 1274 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,480 Yeah. 1275 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:18,480 Right. 1276 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,480 Like, like raising walls, like, you know, I can't really, I can't, I need hands on that. 1277 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,280 And so, you know, we're teaching people how to do the work. 1278 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,640 But the flip side of that is they showed up and they're like, we're going to be of service 1279 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:31,640 to you. 1280 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:32,640 Yeah. 1281 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,640 Right. 1282 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,640 That's huge. 1283 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,080 Can I talk about something? 1284 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:41,440 It's going to be a little controversial because it's, it's all over Instagram, Tik Tok, people 1285 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,440 complaining about it. 1286 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,800 So at the Superbowl, there was a commercial that came out from a website called he gets 1287 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:47,800 us.com. 1288 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,800 Yeah. 1289 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:49,800 Right. 1290 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,320 And there's a, there was a lot of opinions that flew very quickly afterwards. 1291 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,200 Now I know very little about the organization itself. 1292 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,200 Okay. 1293 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,200 I believe they had it last year too. 1294 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,200 I don't think this was the first. 1295 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,600 No, they had a different one last year and they, they do them periodically because they're 1296 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,520 trying to, you know, obviously in their own way, they make a statement. 1297 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,520 Yeah. 1298 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,720 So the, the big controversy about the, about the, the thing was, is about the said, Jesus 1299 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:11,720 didn't hate people. 1300 00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:12,720 He washed their feet. 1301 00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:13,720 Right. 1302 00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:17,120 When I watched it, I was like, when I watched the commercial, I saw a bunch of people in 1303 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,440 different walks of life learning how to serve people that they normally wouldn't serve. 1304 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,440 Okay. 1305 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,120 Now that was my takeaway from it. 1306 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,120 Sure. 1307 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:31,200 Almost immediately there were people who claim to be followers of Jesus, who, who got onto 1308 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:36,120 their keyboards and stuck up their glasses and went, well, actually, right. 1309 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,680 First of all, if you start your statement with, well, actually it drives me crazy. 1310 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:40,680 Yeah. 1311 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,400 Now, what, one of the statements that they made is they said, well, Jesus didn't wash, 1312 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,180 just watched anybody's feet. 1313 00:51:46,180 --> 00:51:49,000 He watched the feet of his disciples. 1314 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,200 So it's really about like learning how to serve, you know, blah, blah, blah. 1315 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,600 It's like, okay, but the problem is serving the least of these is a command that Jesus 1316 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,000 says on a frequent basis. 1317 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,000 Okay. 1318 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,180 So I want to break down this idea though, is that you say, well, he watched his disciples 1319 00:52:01,180 --> 00:52:02,640 feet, people who went with him everywhere. 1320 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,560 Who were his disciples? 1321 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,560 There was the 11 and Judas. 1322 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,560 Okay. 1323 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:08,560 Yeah. 1324 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,560 But where'd they come from? 1325 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,560 All over the place. 1326 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:11,760 I mean, we're talking tax collectors. 1327 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:12,760 We're talking zealots. 1328 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:13,760 We're talking fishermen. 1329 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:14,760 Yeah. 1330 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,040 Like his disciples were the least of these. 1331 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,040 Yeah. 1332 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,040 Yeah. 1333 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,040 They weren't the well-educated. 1334 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,040 They weren't the Torah, you know, reading the Torah the whole lives. 1335 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,840 So these are people to your point, they're from all over the place. 1336 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,320 They're the people that wouldn't have been accepted. 1337 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,360 They're the people that would have been on the outside. 1338 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,520 They're the people that would have been downtrodden. 1339 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:35,480 And Jesus took time to build a relationship with them so that at some point he could get 1340 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,040 down and wash their feet. 1341 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,560 Insert record scratch right there. 1342 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:40,720 Insert record scratch. 1343 00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:44,480 The whole point of that video is that you aren't taking the time to build a relationship 1344 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,000 with somebody because you hate them. 1345 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,840 And it's time for you to stop, build a relationship. 1346 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,240 And if you get a chance, wash their feet. 1347 00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:56,120 Because you need to be the one who bridges the gap. 1348 00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,800 Jesus Christ came from heaven to earth to live a human life. 1349 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,720 You think you're divine and you got to go live a human life. 1350 00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:04,440 It kind of sucks, right? 1351 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,200 But he goes and puts it on display. 1352 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,640 Three and a half years answering the most inane questions over and over again from people 1353 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,200 who don't get what he's talking about. 1354 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,680 Literally is crucified, comes back from the dead and people still don't understand what 1355 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,220 he's talking about. 1356 00:53:19,220 --> 00:53:21,600 Like this is love. 1357 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:26,880 And then gives his very spirit to live inside of us to empower us to be different. 1358 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:31,480 Like if you want to talk about what to live like Jesus, he was very insistent about building 1359 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,700 intentional relationships with people. 1360 00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:36,420 So maybe should we. 1361 00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:39,200 In that commercial, I think there's a lot of good about it. 1362 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:44,640 There are things that I heard too that I was like, okay, I get that too. 1363 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,400 All the criticism was not unwarranted. 1364 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,400 No, no. 1365 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,000 There was definitely criticism that I think was warranted on that. 1366 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,920 So in the movie Jesus Revolution, Kelsey Grammer plays a pastor. 1367 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,720 There's all these quote unquote dirty hippies coming to his church. 1368 00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:02,220 Some of the members of his church come up to him and they're like, you know what? 1369 00:54:02,220 --> 00:54:03,560 This is a problem. 1370 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,880 We have an issue with this. 1371 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:11,520 The comment that they made was they're going to ruin the new Shag carpet. 1372 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,640 He's like, carpet. 1373 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:19,520 And so the next scene was Sunday and then there's a line at the front of the church 1374 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,240 and he's there washing their feet. 1375 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:25,080 He's like, okay, you're afraid their dirty feet are going to ruin the carpet. 1376 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,080 We can solve that. 1377 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,200 I'll wash the feet and welcome them in. 1378 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:33,000 And my favorite part about that is the church member Hula is putting up the fuss about the 1379 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,000 carpet. 1380 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,920 He just walks past with his family and then Kelsey, his character, washes the person's 1381 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:46,240 foot and he's like, hey, you should go sit next to that person. 1382 00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:52,360 But it's not to like, what it's saying is it's saying, hey, go sit there, give them 1383 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,360 opportunity. 1384 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,360 Right? 1385 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,360 Yeah. 1386 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,960 The thing that broke my heart with all the videos that came out almost immediately afterwards 1387 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,200 was first of all, all the, oh yeah, praise Jesus comments. 1388 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,200 Right? 1389 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,880 And I was like, dude, do you realize who Jesus was? 1390 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,560 He was revolutionary. 1391 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:07,720 Right? 1392 00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:09,240 It's okay to not like the video. 1393 00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:11,320 It's okay to disagree with the video. 1394 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:16,720 But there was such an outcry of like, oh, this is emasculating, this isn't who Jesus 1395 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:17,720 is. 1396 00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:18,720 Jesus was the guy with the whips. 1397 00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:19,720 I was like, well, there's one story. 1398 00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:22,160 He's the one carrying his cross and he's ripped. 1399 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,160 Yeah. 1400 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,360 And it's just this mentality where we're immediately going to just go in and like try to devour 1401 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,800 these people, but we don't even know them. 1402 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:36,720 And we are always looking to your point, love the sinner, hate the sin. 1403 00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:41,840 We're always looking for ways to demonize other people so that we don't have to love 1404 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:42,840 them. 1405 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:50,200 That has happened in my life where people have, have said things about me to a purpose 1406 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,720 where I am not a, not a believer. 1407 00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:54,280 Like they've made this comment about that. 1408 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,880 I'm not a believer that I'm on the outside. 1409 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:02,480 Now if that's true, should you not be like trying to bring faith to me? 1410 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:03,480 Sure. 1411 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,680 Well, Jesus, but what they actually do is they're pushing me away. 1412 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,920 So when Jesus is talking about correction, right? 1413 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,360 He's like, Hey, if you have an issue with someone, go to them. 1414 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:12,360 Right? 1415 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,040 If, if they don't listen, take someone else. 1416 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,480 And he specifically talking about correction of sin. 1417 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:18,480 Let's specify that. 1418 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,480 Yep. 1419 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,520 There's a difference between correction of sin and just having an issue with someone. 1420 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:23,520 Yeah. 1421 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,400 So go to them, take someone else, take them, bring them before the assembly, bring them 1422 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,760 for leadership assembly. 1423 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,280 If they still don't listen after all of that, then cast them out and treat them like a tax 1424 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,560 collector or sinner. 1425 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,720 Now we've interpreted that so long as like, Hey, we're going to write them off. 1426 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:37,960 But it's like, no, no, no. 1427 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,620 What did Jesus do with tax collectors and sinners? 1428 00:56:41,620 --> 00:56:48,200 He sat down and had meals and at, and if, and in the case of most of his disciples washed 1429 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,160 their feet because he built a relationship with them. 1430 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:56,540 And so like once again, I think coming back to Brian, like whereas we've been talking, 1431 00:56:56,540 --> 00:56:59,020 we're not accepting the sin. 1432 00:56:59,020 --> 00:57:01,120 We are loving you in spite of it. 1433 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,120 Right? 1434 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,720 It's just like I do for myself. 1435 00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:04,720 Yeah. 1436 00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:05,720 Right? 1437 00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:06,720 Like we do that for ourselves every day. 1438 00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:08,200 God does that for us every day. 1439 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,200 Yeah. 1440 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,960 That person may just not be there yet to be able to recognize that that's sin in their 1441 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,200 lives because they don't have the same belief that I do, you know? 1442 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,520 And to your point, the more we push people away, we're not pushing them away from us. 1443 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,760 We're pushing them away from God. 1444 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,760 Yeah. 1445 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,640 And how terrible is that for us as Christians to do that? 1446 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,920 God cannot possibly approve of that. 1447 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,080 When we say love God and love other people, I think sometimes people hear us saying, bring 1448 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,080 people to church. 1449 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,960 I was like, no, how about you go be the church and go to the people? 1450 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,920 How would you go to their house and have a meal with them? 1451 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaking of Salvation Army, like you guys love people in very tangible ways. 1452 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:41,920 We try to. 1453 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,760 Like that is, that's, it's a whole, the whole mindset. 1454 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,320 Yes, you're an evangelical church, but your mindset is tangible ways to actually love 1455 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:48,320 people. 1456 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,320 You're feeding them. 1457 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,320 You're trying to get them clothes. 1458 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,800 You're trying to, you know, take care of the least of these on a regular basis. 1459 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:53,800 Right? 1460 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,640 And I mean, you're doing other things beyond the organization for sure. 1461 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:57,800 Right? 1462 00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,120 But you're at least that. 1463 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,120 Yeah. 1464 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,360 And there's so many, like, we're like, oh, we got to bring people to church so they hear 1465 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,360 about God. 1466 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,280 I was like, why don't you go and be Christ to as the church to people? 1467 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,280 Yeah. 1468 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,280 You know? 1469 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,280 Yeah. 1470 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:15,440 And I can tell you, you know, serving people is, is so important, right? 1471 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:21,400 Wherever we are, we, we, and kind of going back to this idea of like coupling, loving 1472 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:26,680 God and loving others, they're not, it's two, two sides of the same coin, right? 1473 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:27,680 It's not one and two. 1474 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,840 It's one, one and one a, right? 1475 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,200 But you have to do both. 1476 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:37,440 If you say you love God, but you don't love others, you're either a liar or you're, you're 1477 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,440 mistaken, right? 1478 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,920 Or you don't fully understand what it means to love God. 1479 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,840 Because what it means to love God is to love others. 1480 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:44,840 Right. 1481 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,680 You know, that's a natural response to loving God. 1482 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,160 And it's not an intellectual ascent. 1483 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,400 It's actually a lived truth. 1484 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,400 Yeah. 1485 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,160 What you're doing is if you're saying, oh, I love God, but you don't love others, you're 1486 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,800 saying, Hey, only the head side of the quarter has value. 1487 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:57,800 Yeah. 1488 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:58,800 Right. 1489 00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,800 Right. 1490 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,520 Like that's the only side has value. 1491 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,600 The tail side doesn't have any of that. 1492 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:10,440 I want to come back to this one idea because I love the thing that you talked about hanging, 1493 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,440 right? 1494 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,240 The entire law and prophets hang on these two commands. 1495 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:21,520 I don't feel like we're understating it to say your ministry effectiveness, your ministry 1496 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,740 effectiveness in bringing the gospel and walking in the spirit and actually impacting the world 1497 00:59:26,740 --> 00:59:33,040 for change is going to hang on whether or not you love God and love other people. 1498 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,640 You may have numerical growth. 1499 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,200 You may put together a platform. 1500 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,920 You may have, you may write books, you might get deals. 1501 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,960 You might even have like a TV series, all of these different things that you could have. 1502 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,000 But if they're not hung on love God and love other people, then they're just going to be 1503 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:52,080 a clinging gong or a resounding symbol and just a little bit more noise in the religious 1504 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,080 atmosphere. 1505 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,160 And I would even go as far to say is when you step into that loving other people part 1506 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,040 of it, you are going to look like a fool. 1507 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,040 Yeah. 1508 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:04,200 Like to the world around you, they're going to be like, what is that guy doing? 1509 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,000 Why is that guy caring for this person? 1510 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,440 Why is he taking the time to do this or so on and so forth? 1511 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,520 And I don't want to take one step back here because you're not going to do it right. 1512 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,520 No, you're not. 1513 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,480 I guarantee you're going to mess it up. 1514 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:21,540 So what we're asking and we're saying is you need to be the kind of person who is dedicated 1515 01:00:21,540 --> 01:00:25,680 to being OK with messing up in pursuit of loving God and loving other people. 1516 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:26,680 Because you're not going to do it right. 1517 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:27,680 I guarantee it. 1518 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:33,520 It's a we've been really focusing on this for like in my family for an entire 14 years 1519 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,960 and we're getting better. 1520 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:41,360 You know, but the thing is, is that when we realize we're off, we go, hey, God, we screwed 1521 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,360 this up. 1522 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,200 We're going to try to get back on track, just empower us to be this way. 1523 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:47,200 And then we start. 1524 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,520 But we're moving with the Holy Spirit and we're growing in relationship. 1525 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,560 We're going from infants to toddlers to teenagers. 1526 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:53,560 Right. 1527 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,120 Eventually, hopefully we're full adults. 1528 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,120 Yeah. 1529 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,720 Maybe on that side of maybe on that side. 1530 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:58,720 Yeah. 1531 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,000 And personally, I believe that when we fail to love other people like we're called to, 1532 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,120 we're actually we actually insult the image of God. 1533 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,840 Yeah, because we are created in his image. 1534 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:07,840 Yeah. 1535 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:08,840 Right. 1536 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,960 Humankind, male and female together, created in his image. 1537 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,040 And then when we say, OK, I'm going to love God. 1538 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,840 But man, those people, like that's too much. 1539 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:16,840 Yeah. 1540 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:17,840 Right. 1541 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,560 And what you really you just said was, hey, your creation doesn't matter. 1542 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:22,560 Yeah. 1543 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,600 And I go back to that kingdom. 1544 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:25,600 Yeah. 1545 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,600 Ideology. 1546 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:31,040 You know, I was reading Ephesians two this week during our Bible study and it talks about 1547 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,680 there's the prince of the air. 1548 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:33,680 Yeah. 1549 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:34,680 Right. 1550 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,880 Satan is ruler ruling over people today. 1551 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:38,880 Right. 1552 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:43,120 And I love that ideology because it presents that there is the spiritual battle going on 1553 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:47,160 and we have to be certain of who we're serving. 1554 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:52,240 And so if we're saying we love God, but not serving others, not loving others, are we really 1555 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,240 loving God? 1556 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,240 Are we really serving God? 1557 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,240 Yeah. 1558 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:56,240 Or has the enemy twisted? 1559 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,240 Right. 1560 01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,840 Like he does our ability to really love God. 1561 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,760 So I want to recommend some resources because there's going to be there's going to be a 1562 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,720 lot of talk on this and there's going to be a lot of different opinions. 1563 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,320 Ultimately, your definition come from the Bible and from God himself. 1564 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:12,320 Right. 1565 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,000 There is a couple of different books that I think are going to be helpful in the way 1566 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,120 that we engage people. 1567 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,760 One is going to be from a Pentecostal Charismatic bent. 1568 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:23,520 This guy by the name of Danny Silk wrote a book called Unpunishable talking about learning 1569 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,880 how to treat people in discipline, but not punishment. 1570 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,840 It's a really good book. 1571 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:33,520 There's also Dr. Stuart Townsend has one is like, how do people receive love? 1572 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,520 That's probably not the title, but it's Townsend and that's about what it is. 1573 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,620 And there's Henry Cloud, I think is the other author on there. 1574 01:02:40,620 --> 01:02:44,440 There is also Francis Chan has a book called Crazy Love. 1575 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:45,600 Right. 1576 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,800 And so one of the things I love about Francis Chan, I've always loved is his is his just 1577 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,000 absolute devotion to pursuing God. 1578 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,000 Right. 1579 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,560 He's one of the few teachers that I've heard be like, hey, I got this wrong. 1580 01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:58,560 Yeah. 1581 01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:59,560 Forgive me. 1582 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:00,560 Yeah. 1583 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,320 Actually, what I thought about him earlier, too, just because you brought him up there. 1584 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:08,440 I remember watching a video one time where a college student, whoever said, you know, 1585 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,760 something to the effect of, you know, do you think that I'm a sinner because of scripture, 1586 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:13,760 yada yada. 1587 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,000 And he basically said, let's read it together. 1588 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,000 Right. 1589 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,080 Let's let's sit down. 1590 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,080 That's connection. 1591 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,080 Right. 1592 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,360 And that's what we're trying to strive for is that same. 1593 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,680 Well, it's this invitation. 1594 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:24,840 We've talked about the image of God. 1595 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,400 We're inviting people to live into their image. 1596 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:28,400 Yeah. 1597 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,280 Because most of the time when we're lost from from Jesus, we're not living into the image 1598 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,280 that we're created in. 1599 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,200 We said, hey, it doesn't have to be that way. 1600 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:35,200 Yeah. 1601 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,640 You can actually live into this image you're created in. 1602 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:37,720 Right. 1603 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:48,440 And in a day where ideology and individuality and identity is so skewed, speaking identity 1604 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,160 into people's lives is such a big deal. 1605 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,160 Right. 1606 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:56,560 Do you guys have any books that you'd recommend on on just this conversation of love? 1607 01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:01,040 I know I might get some emails type to me, but Love Does by Bob Goff. 1608 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,360 I love Love Does. 1609 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:04,840 And this equal everybody always. 1610 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:05,840 Yeah. 1611 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,640 I think one of the things those books do really well is give you practical examples of what 1612 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,080 it means to love. 1613 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,080 Is it done perfectly? 1614 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,240 I don't think so. 1615 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:18,760 But I mean, Bob is a lot more intentional about his love for other people than most 1616 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:19,760 people I know. 1617 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:20,760 Yes. 1618 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:21,760 Yeah. 1619 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,880 I was like, so all your issues that you may have with Bob Goff, he practices what he preaches. 1620 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:25,880 He does. 1621 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:26,880 Yeah. 1622 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,480 And we mentioned earlier, you know, love languages. 1623 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:30,480 Yeah. 1624 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:31,480 Gary Chapman. 1625 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,640 I think that helpful to understand maybe how you receive love and especially in a marriage, 1626 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:36,640 you know. 1627 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,720 You know, there's a sequel to that book that he wrote called The Five Apology Languages. 1628 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:40,720 I think, yeah. 1629 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:41,720 Yeah. 1630 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,800 That's also worth a read too, because because part of loving people is you're going to have 1631 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,280 to say I'm sorry occasionally. 1632 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:47,280 Right. 1633 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,000 We don't all receive sorry the same way. 1634 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,000 Sure. 1635 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,000 Yeah. 1636 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,000 Yeah. 1637 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,000 That's interesting. 1638 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,000 Yeah. 1639 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,000 I'll have to look that one up too. 1640 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,000 Well, we are super excited that you're here. 1641 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,000 What's the likelihood we get you back in the future? 1642 01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,000 Whenever you call. 1643 01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,000 Yeah. 1644 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,000 All right. 1645 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,000 You just call. 1646 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,000 Yeah. 1647 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,000 Yeah. 1648 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,000 Oh, unrelated. 1649 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,000 You're going to get a phone call right when you walk out the door. 1650 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,000 Yeah. 1651 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,800 Well, we are excited. 1652 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:12,480 Any final thoughts to anything we didn't get a chance to cover from your sermon? 1653 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:13,480 Good question. 1654 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:14,480 OK, let me pull it up. 1655 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,000 You know, we've got another 30 minutes probably. 1656 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,000 You know what? 1657 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,800 There was this really cool about the gifts specifically. 1658 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,440 You know, it's like this all these gifts that we and we all have it. 1659 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:29,280 If we believe in Jesus and we've received the spirit, we have gifts from the spirit, 1660 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:30,280 right? 1661 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,840 Whether we're enacting them, whether we fully realize what those are. 1662 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,160 Sometimes it takes time. 1663 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,720 You know, I didn't know I was going to be a preacher growing up. 1664 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:37,720 Right. 1665 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:38,720 I was I had stage fright. 1666 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:39,840 It took me a long time. 1667 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,040 I worked at camp for a long time. 1668 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,760 Most people when they're four or five are like, I'm going to be a preacher. 1669 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:44,760 Yeah. 1670 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:45,760 I want to be a mathematician. 1671 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:46,760 So for what that's worth. 1672 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:47,760 Wow. 1673 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,800 I was a kid without friends. 1674 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,800 OK. 1675 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:57,200 You know, in this quote I saw or this this phrase that I saw was like God's gifts that 1676 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:58,200 he gives to his people. 1677 01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,200 It's like a kaleidoscope. 1678 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,200 Right. 1679 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:04,560 And it reveals this incredible array of God's grace on us. 1680 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:09,200 And so I hope as you guys kind of continue to study these gifts to remember that it's 1681 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:10,960 all God's grace on us. 1682 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:11,960 Right. 1683 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:16,640 For the betterment of people, for the common good, for loving others well. 1684 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,880 That's what the gifts are for, to love others well. 1685 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,680 So that's my final thought. 1686 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:21,960 I love it. 1687 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:22,960 All right. 1688 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,800 Well, with that, we will see you guys next week. 1689 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,760 We'll have Les Kronk with us talking about learning to hear the voice of God. 1690 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:30,760 Amen. 1691 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:31,760 Amen. 1692 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:32,760 Till next time. 1693 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:33,760 Yep. 1694 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:38,880 And that's a wrap for today's episode of Love and Context. 1695 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,800 We hope you enjoyed this engaging conversation and gained valuable insights into the powerful 1696 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,800 message of love within the Bible. 1697 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,920 We'd love to hear from you and continue the conversation. 1698 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:54,280 Connect with us by sending us your questions, thoughts, and suggestions to loveandcontextatgmail.com. 1699 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,900 We greatly appreciate your 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01:07:31,600 Jesus revolution. 1711 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:32,600 Yes. 1712 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:33,600 You need to edit. 1713 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:34,600 No, I'm not editing. 1714 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,440 I'm not in the video version of it. 1715 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,200 You are just going to look like a fool. 1716 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,200 Sweet. 1717 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:55,800 Have a great time.