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Season two of Love in Context podcast welcomes you. Get ready for engaging unscripted conversations

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with your hosts, Ben and Spencer. Our mission remains unchanged to explore the Bible through

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the powerful lens of love. In this new season, we'll embark on a journey together, unearthing

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fresh insights and gaining deeper understanding of how we can love God and live out our faith

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in practical ways. So let's dive into this season of Love in Context, where love in the

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context of the Bible intersect to transform our lives. Season two, Love in Context. We're

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here. Our two listeners never thought we'd make it this far. All two of them. There's

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Pastor Nick and then his wife and no one else. So they're like, really? You're doing a second

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season just for us? And we're like, yes. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We're doing a lot of planning

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for these episodes too. So, you know, it's like guest star on every one. Well, and you

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know, we've had, we've had your dad on and we've had Caleb on and Sarah on. So apparently

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they're not listening. They're just, uh, man, that's so good. Well, we're glad you guys

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are going to be here with season two. We wanted to do a short episode. It's not going to be

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a very long one. It's going to be kind of an introduction to season two. We've picked

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up a lot of new listeners over the last, the last few months. And so a lot of people aren't

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necessarily starting on episode one and also on episode one, I'm not really sure that we

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knew what we were going to do. Like we had a kind of a general idea. So this is, I guess

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you could call it the state of the podcast moving forward. Yeah. Yeah. So the, the, the

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premise of loving context is engaging the scriptures in a perspective of loving God

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and loving other people and understanding it from a contextual analysis of what did

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it mean to the people who wrote it? Yeah. The people who heard it and what is the surrounding

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culture around those, those contextual issues? And then how do we express those in love in

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context in our relationship with God's day? None of that is changing. I think that we

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just had more direction. And so we kind of have an idea of where kind of we're going

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with these now, but we've talked about, I think we need some more voices on here. So

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we've talked about moving forward. We're going to try to get some more guests. Um, and really

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we're just going to be focusing right now just on local guests in our community. We're

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not, we're, we're some people we know, we're not trying to get, we're not trying to get

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big names on here right now. That being said, if a big name is listening and they would

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like to be on you are, we could talk about it. Yeah, absolutely. But, uh, we, we really

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want people who are going to engage in the conversation. There's some people I can think

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about off the top of my head where I was like, yeah, like we might gain some more followers

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that we put these people on, but it's also like, I don't want to get an argument. Correct.

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Yeah. Right. Like we want to engage in a conversation. Yeah. I disagree through that. So, but moving

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forward, we want to get more people on who want to engage in this conversation with us.

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Yeah. I think, I think you guys have heard us say more than once that we're interested

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in unity, not uniformity. Yeah. So already you've seen, we've seen people on the podcast

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where we're from different, uh, theological backgrounds. Right. Well, we even had a comment

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the other day where there were someone was like, man, I loved it when you and Ben argued

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and we were like, we argued. I thought we just disagreed on something to move to. We're

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so used to talking with each other that they were like, yeah, when you guys were arguing,

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I was like, we were arguing. What were we arguing about? They're like this. And I was

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like, oh, that wasn't an argument. We just disagreed a little bit. You should wait until

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the camera got turned off. That was, that was when the argument started. Oh man. But

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yeah, like to your point is, uh, like we, we will, uh, we actually have some things

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out there to have some different guests who are specialists in different areas because

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contextual analysis, like there are people who are good at this, right? And, uh, we want

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to be able to bring those people on with their expertise, but we only have authentic conversations

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because one of the things about love and context, we started realizing when we were having these

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conversations is that many people aren't. Yeah. That this type of conversation is not

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something that just happens where you talk about something real from the Bible and then

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you're like, well, let's talk about like, how do we live this out? Well, in the type

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of conversation where it's like, let's be open, authentic and wrestle with this, it

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doesn't happen that often. Like a lot of times when I've actually had those conversations

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with people, they've just been like, well, this is what you need to believe. And I was

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like, but you have to understand this is something I struggle with or this is something I'm wrestling

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through and I need someone to help me walk with me in this. I do find it peculiar how

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often we approach scripture with like a blanket. This is how it is, you know, if there's one

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thing I know about the fact that God created the heavens and the earth is that we have

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no idea what he's doing at any point. Yeah. Right. Like I, he says he spoke the world

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into existence. I don't even know what that means. Well, in Isaiah, he talks about that.

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He's like, my ways are greater than your ways. And then he even goes on to say the foolishness

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of God is wiser than the wisdom of man. Yeah. It is, it is interesting that we have, we

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have divided ourselves over years by different theological bends. And like, there are some

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reasons I totally get why like people would not necessarily fellowship together, which

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have nothing to do with theological bends, but have to do with like preferential, like

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ways of engaging God. Right. When the whole idea is that we're actually gathering because

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we believe God's ideas are better than our ideas. Right. That we think his ways are better

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than our ways. Yeah. And then we're like, but not, not, not the way you interpret his

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way. Right. Right. Yeah. Right. So it's going to, we're going to have a lot of guests. So

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if you have recommendations, also local listeners, you can, you can absolutely, if you're a listener

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and you think, Hey, I've got a lot to add to the conversation. Well, you should be listening

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as we're talking about what we're going to be doing in season two. If you're listening

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and you're like, Hey, this is something that I actually really would like to have a conversation

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about, send us an email. And then if we reply to you, it means we saw it. We can guarantee

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we saw it. Yeah. We can guarantee we saw it. Yeah. The biggest criteria for coming on here

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is not agreement, but it's a willingness to have a conversation and not argue. And I should

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say argue in the sense of we're going to tell you about why I'm right and you're wrong.

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Well you do that anyways. Yeah. I mean like I, there's, there's already one person who

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does that way too much on here. So we need to, we need to cut down on that as much as

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possible. That's the whole reason Ben asked me to do this with him. It's good. You're

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very agreeable. Yeah. So in season one, we did Torah and I think it's really important

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that we did that first because everything foundational that comes in scripture is going

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to come after Torah. Right. So every discussion that comes in season two is based in the knowledge

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of what Torah has already given us. Right. Yeah. So this we're changing pace a little

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bit this year, this season, we're going to do a bunch of mini series. Yeah. That's going

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to be a lot of fun. Yeah. The first one in there is actually going to be talking about

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women in the Bible. So we're going to talk about women in the Old Testament, women in

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the life of Jesus and in the church and in church history. And then we're going to talk

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about women in ministry today. Yeah. If you listen to that series, you'd be like, wow,

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you're really over emphasizing women. Yes, we are because they've been under emphasized

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for so long. And we're trying to emphasize a very important part of the body of Christ.

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Yeah. And what God has to say about them. Yeah. And so we know that that's a series

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that might spark some disagreement among some people. We're okay with that. Yeah, we're

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okay with that. We're okay. As we have said in the past, we will make content. You can

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make all the comments you want. Yep. And speaking of controversy, the next one that we're going

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to be talking about the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Yeah. I can't think of how that could

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possibly be controversial. Provide a little bit of background here. Right. Okay. So we

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both are part of a Pentecostal church. Correct. Right. Okay. You did not grow up Pentecostal?

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No, I grew up Southern Baptist. Yeah. Okay. And some of you are like, whoa, Southern Baptist

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to Pentecostal. Is that possible? Well, I went Southern Baptist, non-denominational

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in college, back to a Southern Baptist church, and then I went to a Pentecostal church. So

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technically I'm what they call a non-Baptist. Non-Baptist. And I grew up in the Free Methodist

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church. Yeah. Then I spent time in the Foursquare church in Nazarene church, Baptist church,

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and back to Free Methodist, now Pentecostal. Yeah. So we've been all over the map and it's

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not that we disagree with any of the other denominations that was listed, right? This

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is just where the Lord has us for the season and time. That's right. That's the right church

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we're... So with that said, we're going to be coming at that from a wide perspective.

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actually going to talk about how do you engage us in one of two ways. Yeah. There are people

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who believe that the expression is for today. So when we're talking about tongues or we're

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talking about prophecy, we're talking about healing, these are expressions of the day.

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But we also want to have on the flip side of that conversation, if God is not engaging

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you that way. Yeah. How do you engage these texts in a way that brings you into deeper

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relationship with God and puts the fruit of the Spirit on display? Yeah. And so this is

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not going to just be just a, hey, this is what you should do. And if you do anything

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else, you're wrong because we want to have real conversations about it. Yeah. And there's

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lots of points where we struggle and wrestle with this. So that's going to be a series

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that we do. We're super excited for that one. And then coming out of the expression of the

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Spirit, like how does the Spirit move in people's life, the spiritual gifts. We're going to

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actually talk through the entire Bible and talk about the covenants that show up. Yeah.

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Starting with the Adamic and Noahic covenant going into Abrahamic all the way to the Messianic

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covenant in Jesus Christ to the way that we make covenants with the people around us.

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Yeah. It's really important that we understand this covenantal language that's going on inside

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of the Bible. Yeah. And that's going to be a really like just fun series. Yeah. And then

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we're going to move into a little bit of a different series as well called Kings and

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Kingdoms. And we're going to talk about a series of Kings in the Old Testament that

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are not Jewish Kings. Correct. The non-Jewish Kings. Non-Jewish Kings. Examples might be

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like Sennacherib. Uh-huh. Which everyone's like, wait, what? What did you just say? Yeah.

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He did not say Snickers, I promise. I would love a Snickers. But we're going to be talking

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about some Kings like Nicotus was one of the pharaohs, Nebuchadnezzar, a few others, all

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right? Like... We'll even be talking about Herod the Great and Caesar Augustus, like

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some different things. So we're going to be talking about great Kings in the surrounding

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nations, the role they actually played in either persecuting the Jewish people or Christians

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and how that actually was a fulfillment of what the Lord's call was at that time. Like

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we're going to be talking a lot about that stuff. By the way, if you're thinking you're

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like, what does this actually have to do with living in the Bible today? I got news for

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you that most of us live in a country that's not actually run by somebody who's a passionate

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follower of Jesus. There's actually a lot we can learn about living in Babylon. A lot

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of the stuff we can learn about living in Babylon. Yeah. So that's going to be a great

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series. Super excited for it. And then we're going to move into one of my favorite books

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in the Bible. And a lot of people... I'm going to do a little bit of a teaser on this, but

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not much. But we're going to do a series on the book of James. I think you mean Jacob.

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Jacob? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the book of... We'll explain that joke when we get

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there. Yeah. One of the things about the book of James that's really funny is a lot of times

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people are like, oh, we love it because it's very, very black and white and it's very new

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covenant. We even know 95% of it's quotes from Torah. Which some of you heard that.

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You might got a little triggered by that, but we're going with it. Right? Yeah. But

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when we get there, you're going to be surprised how often James is saying something. You're

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like, oh, I remember in Leviticus when it said this. Oh, I remember in Deuteronomy when

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Ben and Spencer were talking about it and it said this. I remember when Pastor Seirot

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was on it, it said this. Right? So we're going to do... That one's going to be a bit of a

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change of pace for us because we're actually going to break that out into like six or seven

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weeks for a five chapter book. Yeah. So we've been doing big swaths of four or five chapters

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at a time. So we're actually going to change pace and do a few verses at a time. Yeah.

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And part of that is anytime that we're quoting from the book of James, we're going to have

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to go, where is he quoting from? And then get the context to where he's quoting from.

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conversation in the day that is sent to the Jews of that day. Yeah. And it takes a little

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while to actually parse that out. Yeah, it does. And then season two will conclude with

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a study we're going to call Little Book, Big Message. These are all the single chapter

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books that you can find in the Bible. So Obadiah, Jude, Philemon, second John, third John, and

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I think that's it. I was thinking Titus, but I was thinking no, Titus was three. Yeah,

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three, like two or three chapters. Yeah. And I think that's pretty much it. Yeah. Yeah.

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Just talking about how these books are packed with a ton of content. Now, one of the things

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that I have seen, especially with the book of Jude, is that, you know, the thing we've

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talked about in our stories, that people use the Bible to attack each other. Yeah. Jude

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is one of those books that people use a lot. And so we're really going to, we're going

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to really get into Jude and talk about what is Jude addressing. Because we use the dressings

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on very specific things. And then we have appropriated that in our offensive against

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people we don't like. Yeah. And that's not cool. And again, it's going to be a bit of

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a change of pace because these are short books. And so again, it's going to be, hey, we are

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tackling one chapter in one week. Yeah. And it's going to be, so it'll be a little bit

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of a change of pace for us, but we're excited. Interdispersed in there, we will have a number

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of Q&As. I believe we'll have one in about mid season. So that'd be like 25-ish episodes

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in and then one at the end of the season. So with that being said, if you still have

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questions and they can be Torah, they can be things we haven't talked about, like just

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throw them out there and we'll see if we can get them down the Q&A. I think actually at

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the next Q&A, I would like to get some other people besides us answer some questions too.

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There's going to be a lot of really good guests. I know for sure that we have a pastor Sarah

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is going to come back. And I've talked to Les and Laura Kronk. They're going to be visiting.

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Pastor Nick is going to be on at some point. I doubt we can get his wife on. That's a pretty

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hard pass for her. I'm sure. I'm definitely going to try though, because she would hate

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it. That's the only reason he'll try is because she'll hate it. Spencer's dad is, we'll be

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back on Ed McDowell. We also have one of the captains from the Salvation Army is going

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to be joining us. That's going to be fun. Just a lot of different people and we have

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more that we are looking to book out. Guys, it's going to get really fun. Yeah. It's going

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to be a lot of fun what we're doing. I hope you are excited for the journey as we are.

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in our women in ministry. We're excited for that. We are. Until then, you can find us

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thinking you're like, Hey, those hair ticks, that's where you actually send it is loveandcontext.gmail.com.

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If you address your email like, Hey, hair ticks, and then do a response, great. I'll

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read it still. That's great. If you include your address, I'll probably send you a cookie

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because I think that's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll send you a devil's food cookie. If

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you title email, Hey, hair ticks, in love and context, we will send you deviled eggs.

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Deviled eggs. Yeah. Make sure you don't send us that from too far away. I'm just joking.

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We won't do that, but we're super excited for season two. There's going to be some great,

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great content in here. Some great guests. It's going to be a lot of fun and just wait

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until you hear about season three. We already have ideas. Let's get season two first. Yeah.

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Like how to properly cook rabbit stew. Yeah. That's exactly it. That's exactly what we're

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going for. I was going to say the proper technique of playing halo, but yeah. Yeah. All right

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guys. We're glad you could be with us. Take care.

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engaging conversation and gained valuable insights into the powerful message of love

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at the heart of it all until next time. Keep seeking wisdom, embracing love, and living

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out your faith in the context of today's world.

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Cause I'm tired. I'm so tired. I was so tired. Well, yeah, I mean, he picked up an extra

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chip. You look so much smaller than me. I need to back up like that's your job or don't

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worry about it. Yeah. Um, that's so small. Stupid my brother. Okay. All right. He's not

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a listener. He's not actually, he keeps, he keeps saying, he's like, oh, maybe I'll listen.

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He's like, he's like, you have any good guests? I was like, don't want to listen to you dog.

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And my defense, I am his younger brother. One of the first series that we're going to tackle

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right out of the, right out of the bucket. That's definitely a saying it is now right

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out of the bucket.