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Welcome to the Love and Context podcast, engaging in unscripted conversations with your hosts,

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Ben and Spencer.

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Whether you're tuning in from your car, your office, your home, or anywhere in between,

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we are so happy to have you join us today.

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Our mission is simple, to explore the Bible through a powerful lens of love.

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Together we'll uncover fresh insights and gain deeper understandings of how we can love

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God and love the people in our everyday lives.

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So buckle up and join us on the spiritual journey as we discover timeless wisdom that

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is just as relevant today as it was thousands of years ago.

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Without further ado, let's dive right in.

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Welcome back to the Love and Context podcast.

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I am Ben.

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I'm Spencer.

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And we're joined once again by Caleb Fox.

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Reminder, he is the chaplain at the local jail here, and he's been joining us for our

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back half commentary through Deuteronomy.

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Hey, how's everybody doing?

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You feeling more comfortable than last time?

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Oh, absolutely.

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It's always weird when you have a mic in your face and you're not used to it.

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Church drummer for over 20 years and just having the microphone this close to my face,

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I don't know how to accept this.

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Right.

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And some of you who have played on church bands, like you're familiar, okay, so there

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might be like overhead drum mics and you'll have some like on the snare.

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There's never any in your face.

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No, and nowadays, like most church drummers are like put behind a cage.

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And so they don't even see you.

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So they're like, oh, well, I know there's a drum set back there and somebody's playing

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it, but they don't see a face.

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They're very obscured.

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And everybody else on stage gets a bottle of water, but you get skipped over to sing

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every time.

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Listen, anytime you come and play drums for us, I'll make sure there's a bottle of water

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just for you.

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Thank you.

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It's going to be half drink, but if you could put a fan there at that drum to have some

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fresh air coming through, I'd really appreciate that.

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Dude.

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Okay.

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So, so those of you that are watching us on YouTube and you're like, man, this went out

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the rails real quick.

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You can, you can tell that I'm a portly fellow.

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And when I do worship leading, man, I get real hot.

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And so like for a long time, I did have a fan like on the floor blowing up at me because

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otherwise let's just say that that was when your hair was longer.

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So you could have your hair blown in the wind while you're leading worship.

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My hair was never that long.

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So okay.

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So little, little, little side note here because I've heard you both, your wife and my wife

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say this and also my assistant at work.

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I'm Trevor Lawrence, who plays a quarterback for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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And whenever I'll say, and my wife goes, is he the guy with the really nice hair?

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And I'm like, yes, yes, he does.

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Yes, he has.

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He has very nice hair.

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So, so anyways, we are in the backend of Deuteronomy and actually we're going to be in chapters

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31 through 34.

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That's the 31th of the end of Deuteronomy.

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Can you guys believe this is the last episode in Deuteronomy?

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After this week, we have the Q and A. So if you watch this episode, it's probably the

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last chance that you're going to have to get us a question for the Q and A. But if you

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have other questions, just keep sending them because we're going to do them periodically.

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I think every 25, 26 episodes or so.

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We left off the last episode and Moses had come to the Israelites and he said, Hey, here's

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your choice.

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You can follow God and he's going to bless you or you can choose to not fall after God.

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It's not going to end well for you.

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You got to make this decision what you're going to do today.

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So then chapter 31, Moses goes to all Israel and he says, I'm 120 years old.

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It's good life.

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And I am no longer able to lead you.

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I don't think anybody could lead after 120 years old.

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You know, the crazy thing is he's still climbing mountains.

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Well, I mentioned back when we were in Genesis when Abraham had his first kid at what, 90

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I think I was Ishmael.

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He's right around that age.

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You're 99 right around that age.

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How miserable would that be?

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Like I'm in my thirties with a five year old and I'm exhausted.

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Well, like being like in my nineties with a newborn.

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So funny story about that is my mom came into town.

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very well and spend some time with her dad to catch up.

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And she's like, I remember that there's a reason you have kids in your thirties.

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And I was like, yeah, I was like, I'm pretty tired too, but I recoup a lot faster than

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Well, I sat by your mom in church that week and she leaned over to me and this was day

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one.

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She's like, I'm already so tired or something along those lines.

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That's so good.

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She watches this though.

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She'll probably affirm or deny that comment.

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I can't remember.

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So first he says to all Israel, he got says to go to Israel and Moses says this, okay,

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to all of Israel, Joshua's going to lead you.

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So be strong and of good courage.

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Fear not.

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God is going with you.

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He won't fail and he won't leave you.

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the sight of all Israel be strong and of good courage.

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God is going with you.

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He won't fail or leave you.

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Fear not.

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Now, this messaging is really good right here from Moses because the first is to everyone.

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So he calls the entire, the entire assembly together and he says, this is the message.

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This is what's going to happen.

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And then he turns and he gives the exact same message to Joshua.

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Now I've seen a lot of, I'm just going to call them power transitions in churches where

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a senior pastor is stepping down and they're bringing in a new pastor maybe to lead a ministry

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or lead the church, whatever it is.

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There are good ways to do that and there are bad ways to do that.

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One of the worst ways to do it is to tell the congregation one thing and the leader

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another.

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But I have seen that.

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And then also for the pastor to undermine the person coming in behind them rather than

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bless 100% correct on that.

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I've been a part of church transitions where the pastor that was coming in was told one

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thing and the congregation was told another thing.

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I've been a part of those and they never end well.

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No, like they're sometimes they're able to work things out, but it's usually messy.

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Um, in the transition of leadership here, you have Moses actually saying the same thing,

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Which is very important.

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Saying the same thing to Israel, saying the same thing to Joshua and very important.

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And one of the things I think is super key in here is something you said in one of the

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first weeks we got into Deuteronomy.

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I mentioned that after God says, Hey, you're not going to go into the land.

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Stop asking me that right after that Moses shifts and it seems like he starts telling

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them how to learn from his mistakes.

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And it once again looks here like Moses has probably learned from his mistake and he's

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like, I'm going to commission Joshua the right way.

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Because he does this right.

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This is the right way to do it.

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He doesn't try to undermine.

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He's not trying to like usurp leadership.

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He's like, no, Israel, this is the guy that's going to lead you.

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Joshua, you're the guy that's going to lead them.

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Everybody knows.

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But he's going to be like, who's Joshua?

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There's a parallel here too, because this is actually the same language that's used

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in the great commission where Jesus is telling the 12 to go out because Jesus is saying,

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go and make disciples and remember I am with you.

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And so in here you have be strong, courageous, fear not.

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God is going with you.

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And then Jesus saying, go make disciples.

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I'm with you.

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Are you saying Jesus, the second Moses is commissioning the church to be like Joshua

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and go take the land?

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Man, it's weird.

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I never are you saying that the Bible is interconnected and the stories are meant for us to understand

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the connections?

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Can you just knock the sarcasm off a little bit?

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No, it's I mean, that's so good.

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I mean, you can totally absolutely because like you're supposed to go but is a different

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kind of conquest.

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Because it's no longer a conquest of swords.

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It's a conquest of the heart.

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And it's no, it's no longer a conquest of physical land, conquest for physical land.

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It's a conquest for the hearts and souls of the people of the world.

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Because you see that echoed then again in Acts where he's saying go to the ends of the

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It's a say it's this same commission that's being laid out.

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I love that.

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From this point on, the writing style is going to shift, which makes sense because it says

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Moses, having finished the law, gave it to the Levites to put by the arc.

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And he finished his what he's actually writing down like his his testament, if you will.

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And so the back end of Deuteronomy, you could say probably from this point on was written

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by somebody else because they're filling in what happened with Moses at the end.

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Moses tells me he says every seven years when you're canceling the debt, which is going

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to happen every seven years and then every seven of seven years is going to be the year

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of Jubilee Jubilee.

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We read about that in Leviticus.

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If you are unfamiliar, go back to that episode because it's great.

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It says read the law to everyone, men, women, children, even foreigners living with you.

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Every seven years, make sure that you're reading the law, which is by the way, a principle

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that they come up when they do their Parashah readings each week in synagogues that they're

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actually reading through Torah every year.

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They're making it make sure it's a very familiar part of their of their yeah, of their practice

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of their walk.

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Teach them to fear God and to follow the law.

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Verse 13, their children who do not know this law must hear it and learn to fear the Lord

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your God.

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As long as you live in the land, you are crossing the Jordan to possess your children have to

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They're not going to learn if you don't teach them.

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Parents listen.

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I mean, that's me too.

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It's our job.

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I do feel like on my portion as a father, the most important thing that I do as a father

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is I teach my son who God is and how to have a relationship with him.

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Everything else he can walk out, but he's got to know this.

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How to hear the voice of God and how to be in in relationship with God.

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It rubs me the wrong way when people talk about this is because they're like, oh, you

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need to teach your children to obey God.

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I said, no, I need to teach them to know God because by knowing God, they'll obey him.

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And we need to we just need to pause here and actually talk about the fear of the Lord

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a little bit because if you read Deuteronomy, you're going to see that phrase pop up a few

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Francis Chan actually has a really good video on the fear of the Lord.

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I love me some Francis Chan.

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The bullet point of it is that in the world, we have so many things that we're fearing

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and fearing of the Lord is more than just giving on, just giving the reverence because

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he is all powerful.

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Like, you can't say that when he was delivering the 10 plagues upon Egypt that there wasn't

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some like actual fear.

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Oh my God can do this.

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But when you actually lean into fearing the Lord, almost every time what happens when

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someone has a direct encounter with the Lord or an angel, they fall down in fear.

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And what does the Lord say?

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Fear not.

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For I am with you.

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I have Isaiah, you have Mary.

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Those are just two examples in scripture.

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So when you actually step into fearing the Lord, you have nothing else to fear.

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I'm going to pull two verses a little out of context.

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So please forgive me because it is love and context.

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Pastor next, I love it.

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Right.

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But one of the proverbs is the fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom.

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Now proverbs, of course, we need to understand our pieces of advice for generally righteous

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living.

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So the fear of the Lord is beginning of all wisdom.

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I also reminded of something John says.

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He says, perfect love casts out fear, casts out fear.

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And so proper recognition of who God is should fill our heart with fear, awe, wonder.

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And yes, even like, understanding that he could tremble.

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When we understand the love of God, it drives that out and it actually causes us to live

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differently.

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One of the things that is troubling about some of our churches today and some of our Christians

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today is that they've got the fear part, but they're not actually having it driven out

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by the love.

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Because they go worried about stepping out, they forget to step in.

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You know what I mean?

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And I would say there is a part that stays with you knowing that God is all powerful,

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knowing that everything is in his control.

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There is a guy that goes to our church and he is a former army ranger and he's not a

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particularly big fellow, but I've seen him in his gun training and in his combat training

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and in like jujitsu.

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And he is smaller than me.

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But I know- Oh, you'd be a dead man.

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I would be a dead man.

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If we got into a fight, I would immediately be on the ground and lose.

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I was like, he's probably half my size.

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Now he is incredibly gentle hearted and a great person, but I also don't forget that

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he could take me out probably just by thinking hard.

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You know what I mean?

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Growing up, my best friend's dad, he was on a narcotics team with SWAT.

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And he was not a big guy.

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Same thing, not a big guy.

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But it was also like we knew that we would not mess with him.

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Even play wrestling, we're like, we're going to lose in a heartbeat.

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Having this same kind of recognition for who God is, is healthy.

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But you can't do things motivated by fear.

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You do things motivated by love.

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It has to be motivated by love.

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So God then tells Moses, he says, bring Joshua to the tent of meetings and you're going to

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commission him.

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So Moses brings Joshua and the Lord appears as a pillar of cloud over the entrance of

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the tent.

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Okay.

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Once again, this is the thing they've seen in the desert over and over again.

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So then God lets Moses know.

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He says, Hey, Moses, by the way, I know that Israel's definitely not going to obey and

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they're definitely going to forsake me.

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So he gives Moses a song and the song is going to be a witness against them when they turn

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away.

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Well, so two things have already happened.

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One, Moses has written down his law, which he says is going to be a testimony against

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them.

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And then God gives them a song, which is going to be a testimony against them.

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It says that Moses wrote down the song and he taught it to all the people.

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I just love that God's like, yeah, they're not gonna, not going to listen.

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They're definitely going to do something wrong.

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So let's teach them a song that they'll remember and be like, Oh yeah.

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Oh right.

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That's what we were supposed to do.

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Man, right there.

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God talking to us about the need to incorporate worship music in our life.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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So you have a four year old, I have a five year old.

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How many times do you have to remind your son to put his shoes on in song or by just

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regular talking because both of them happen a lot.

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Like the other day I was getting Denver out the door for school and it was hilarious because

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it was like, Hey, can you get shoes on?

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She's like, Oh, okay.

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And she goes and grabs her shoes, then sets them down and starts coloring.

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And it's like, Hey, can you get your shoes on?

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Oh, then she go grabs her shoes.

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And then she gets distracted by one of the dogs and starts petting one of the dogs.

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Hey, you need to get your shoes on.

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I think it was like six or seven times and she was like, finally gets her shoes on, is

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out the door.

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But I was like, Oh yeah, this is what I'm supposed to do.

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It's very similar to James go to your room and get a jacket.

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And he comes out and I'm like, where's your jacket?

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Oh right.

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And he runs back to his room and he comes back out with a toy and I'm like, where's

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your jacket?

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Oh right.

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Like it happens over and over again.

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And God is as a good father is like, Hey, I know that they're not going to get this.

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I know they're not going to get it.

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Uh huh.

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Uh huh.

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So good.

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I think the reason I bring that up is because I think a lot of times we read this stuff

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being like, Oh, well God's being harsh and it's like, he's being harsh.

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He's being angry and we can interpret it in that lens, but that's not what's going on

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here.

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It's just God saying, yeah, you as my children, you're going to forget.

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It's being spoken as this is just a reality that's going to happen.

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And this is why we've always, this is why I've said on the podcast, you have to remember.

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And I think one of the things that maybe we should explore in a podcast is this whole

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thing of the anger of the Lord.

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I think people equate it with the anger of you and God's anger is completely different

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than ours.

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Like it's a completely different kind of thing.

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And so I think a lot of times we try to anthropomorphize God as like our anger and we try to define

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God by our emotions rather than inviting our emotions by God.

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And so maybe one of these times, I think it's probably a good idea.

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We should, we should talk about what it means when God's anger burns, what it actually causes

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because it's not what you think.

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It's actually all motivated toward a perspective of changing you and bringing you to a place

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of being faithful.

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Amen.

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So then God commissions Joshua.

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Once again, it comes up, be strong and courageous, which is also going to be the opening lines

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of the book of Joshua as well.

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This is going to be coming up again.

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I'll be with you.

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It's pretty comforting when God has your back.

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When he's like, Hey, by the way, I'll be with you.

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To your point earlier, when you're talking about the great commission, Moses tells him

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that that God's going to be with him.

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And then God tells him that he's going to be with him.

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It's almost like the second Moses and God told his disciples that too, because they

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were the same person.

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Yeah.

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And once Moses was finished with the law, he told them to put it beside the arc once

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again as a witness against them.

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There again.

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So then Moses actually recites the song in chapter 32.

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And you know what?

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We're just going to read that.

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And Caleb, I think you're going to read that out of the NLT, right?

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Listen, O heavens, and I will speak.

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Hear O earth the words that I say.

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Let my teaching fall on you like rain.

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Let my speech settle like dew.

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Let my words fall like rain on tender grass.

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Let gentle showers on young plants.

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I will proclaim the name of the Lord how glorious is our God.

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He is the rock.

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His deeds are perfect.

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Everything he does is just and fair.

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He is a faithful God who does no wrong.

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How just and upright he is.

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But they have acted corruptly toward him.

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When they act perversely, are they really his children?

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They are a deceitful and twisted generation.

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Is this the way you repay the Lord, you foolish and senseless people?

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Isn't he your father who created you?

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Has he not made you and established you?

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Remember the days of long ago.

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Think about the generations past.

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Ask your father and he will inform you.

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Inquire of the elders and they will tell you.

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When the Most High assigned lands to the nations, when he had divided up the human race, he

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established the boundaries of the peoples, according to the number in his heavenly court.

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For the people of Israel belong to the Lord.

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Jacob is his special possession.

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He found them in a desert land in an empty howling wasteland.

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He surrounded them and watched over them.

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He guarded them as he would guard his own eyes.

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Like an eagle that rouses her chicks and hovers over her young, so he spread his wings to

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take them up and carry them safely on his pinions.

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The Lord alone guided them.

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They followed no foreign gods.

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He let them ride over the highlands and feast on the crops of the fields.

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He nourished them with honey from the rock and olive oil from the stony ground.

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He fed them yogurt from the herd and milk from the flock together with the fat of lambs.

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He gave them choice rams from Bashan and goats together with the choicest wheat.

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You drank the finest wine made from the juice of grapes.

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But Israel soon became fat and unruly.

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The people grew heavy, plump and stuffed.

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Can we pause there for a second?

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That is also exactly language that shows up in Ezekiel when Ezekiel talks about Sodom and

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Gomorrah.

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They were fat and overfed and they did not care about those around them.

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Continue there.

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That's verse 15.

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Then they abandoned the God who had made them.

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They made light of the rock of their salvation.

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They stirred up his jealousy by worshiping foreign gods.

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They provoked his fury with detestable deeds.

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They offered sacrifices to demons which are not God, to gods they had not known before,

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to new gods only recently arrived, to gods their ancestors have never feared.

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You neglected the rock who had fathered you.

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You forgot the God who had given you birth.

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The Lord saw this and drew back and provoked to anger his own sons and daughters.

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He said, I will abandon them, then see what becomes of them.

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For they are a twisted generation, children without integrity.

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They have roused my jealousy by worshiping things that are not God.

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They have provoked my anger with their useless idols.

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Now I will rouse their jealousy through people who are not even a people.

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I will provoke their anger through the foolish Gentiles.

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For my anger blazes forth like fire and burns to the depths of the grave.

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It devours the earth and all its crops and ignites the foundations of the mountains.

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I will heap disasters upon them and shoot them down with my arrows.

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I will weaken them with famine and burning fever and deadly disease.

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I will send the fangs of wild beasts and poisonous snakes that glide in the dust.

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Outside the sword will bring death and inside terror will strike both young men and young

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women, both infants and the aged.

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I would have annihilated them, wiping out even the memory of them.

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But I feared the taunt of Israel's enemy who might misunderstand and say, our own power

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has triumphed.

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The Lord had nothing to do with this.

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But Israel is a senseless nation that people are foolish without understanding.

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Oh, they that were wise and could understand this.

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Oh, that they might know their fate.

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How could one person chase a thousand of them and two people put 10,000 to flight unless

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the rock had sold them, unless the Lord had given them up?

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But the rock of our enemies is not like our rock, as even they recognize.

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Their vine grows from the vine of Sodom, from the vineyards of Gomorrah.

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Their grapes are poison, their clusters are bitter, their wine is the venom of serpents

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and the deadly poison of Cogros.

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Can we pause there for a second?

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Because we were just talking about Sodom and Gomorrah.

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And one of the things that is happening in this song over and over again is he's saying

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that you're neglecting God, you're worshiping other things, you are worshiping gods that

494
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,120
have just come into existence, gods you've never known, you're betraying your identity.

495
00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:42,360
Wow, right over and over again.

496
00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:46,160
Once again, this is the this is the issue of Sodom is they became the opposite of the

497
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,160
story of God.

498
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:52,240
They actually became a place where the outsider was treated so poorly.

499
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,600
Israel, you're going to become this.

500
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,440
That's such a such a difficult thing.

501
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,400
That reminds me of where it's talking about, you know, where people will know that is the

502
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:08,560
Lord that brought these things about in 70 AD when the temple was destroyed, when, when

503
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:14,920
the sacking of Jerusalem, when Titus led the Roman army, Titus was declared the victor.

504
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,120
Now as a victor, they would give the Romans a wreath of victory.

505
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,160
Titus refused the wreath.

506
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,200
And they asked him why.

507
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,760
And he said that this is not my victory.

508
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,480
I was just a vessel for a divine wrath.

509
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,160
He witnessed it and he gave glory to to God for what happened there.

510
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,320
He watched it come to pass from his point of view.

511
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,320
Yeah.

512
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,040
Titus refused to take the victory for it.

513
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,280
Kind of reminds you of Snekareb later in the text as well.

514
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,280
Oh, yeah.

515
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,280
By the way, that's a great name.

516
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,280
Snekareb.

517
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,800
If any of you are about to have kids and you're thinking of a great name, Snekareb just rolls

518
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:49,800
right out the tongue.

519
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:50,800
Right.

520
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,600
Hey, Ben, how do you spell that with a lot of words, letters?

521
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,600
Yes, exactly.

522
00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,360
Also, I don't know if it's just the worship leader in me, but I'm definitely catching

523
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:02,480
a great beat behind the song.

524
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,960
All right.

525
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,960
Let's get up here again.

526
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,720
And verse thirty four.

527
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,800
The Lord says, Am I not storing up these things, sealing them away in my treasury?

528
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,840
I will take revenge and I will pay them back.

529
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,040
In due time, their feet will slip.

530
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,720
Their day of disaster will arrive and their destiny will overtake them.

531
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:26,560
Indeed, the Lord will give justice to his people and he will change his mind about his

532
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,560
servants.

533
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,880
When he sees their strength is gone and no one is left slavery free, then he will ask,

534
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,480
where are the gods?

535
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,000
The rocks they fled to for refuge.

536
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,760
Where now are those gods who ate the fat of their sacrifices, who drank the wine of their

537
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,480
offerings?

538
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,960
Let those gods arise and help you.

539
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,920
Let them provide you with shelter.

540
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,440
Let's pause there real quick.

541
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,440
Sorry, one more time.

542
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,640
So what are you saying here is why am I knocking you down?

543
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,320
Am I knocking you down to punish you?

544
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,120
Or am I knocking you down so you no longer trust in the gods that you've built up in

545
00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:04,600
your life?

546
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,200
Because now when everything is gone, he's coming and he's like, hey, where are these

547
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,200
gods that you're trusting?

548
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,120
You know, those things that you thought were so powerful, those things that you needed

549
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:13,120
so badly?

550
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,760
Like, where are they?

551
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,000
Kind of what Elijah said to the prophets of Baal when they were dancing around trying

552
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,560
to call down fire from heaven.

553
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,920
Maybe he's just in the bathroom.

554
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,920
Keep calling.

555
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,360
Maybe he's taking a nap.

556
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:29,760
I love Elijah's smack talk because he does it multiple times.

557
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,040
But like here, God's going to tell you, he's like, hey, I'm going to bring these things.

558
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,600
But even in the song, you can see his anger is roused for jealousy for the people.

559
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,440
He actually wants them back.

560
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,600
This is what's a part of the story.

561
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,600
And so then let's continue on in verse 39 here.

562
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,720
Look now, I myself am he.

563
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,600
There is no other God but me.

564
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,200
I am the one who kills and gives life.

565
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,580
I am the one who wounds and heals.

566
00:25:53,580 --> 00:25:56,580
No one can be rescued from my powerful hand.

567
00:25:56,580 --> 00:26:02,160
Now I raise my hand to heaven and declare as surely as I live, when I sharpen my flashing

568
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:09,000
sword and carry it to bring out and to carry out justice, I will take revenge on my enemies

569
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,120
and repay those who reject me.

570
00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:16,520
I will make my arrows drunk with blood and my sword will devour flesh, the blood of the

571
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:21,760
slaughtered and the captives and the heads of the enemy leaders.

572
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:26,320
Rejoice with him, you heavens, and let all of God's angels worship him.

573
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:31,260
Rejoice with his people, you Gentiles, and let all the angels be strengthened in him,

574
00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:34,280
for he will avenge the blood of his children.

575
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,120
He will take revenge against his enemies.

576
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:42,000
He will repay those who hate him and cleanse his people's lands.

577
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,020
So one of the things God's saying here, he's like, hey, I'm going to lay to waste all the

578
00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:48,680
things that you trust in and I will bring you back.

579
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,200
And he's like, don't get me wrong.

580
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,080
As soon as you come back, I'm going to go and I'm going to make atonement for you.

581
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,080
Yeah.

582
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,520
Because people aren't going to go unpunished because they come in and wipe you out.

583
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,280
You're still in my treasured possession.

584
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,880
Now, once again, we need to talk about conquest literature, right?

585
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,920
Because this is very much written in the conquest narrative with my arrows are going to be drunk

586
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,360
with blood and all these different things, which are very familiar to the time but aren't

587
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:13,120
necessarily reflective of the heart of God.

588
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:16,080
And we need to be conscious of that kind of literature.

589
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,600
What we always want to do is we want to make sure we're reading the Bible in context and

590
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,600
love.

591
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,840
That's the name of the podcast, right?

592
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,240
In verses 46 to 47, Moses says you need to obey these words.

593
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,040
They're not idle words.

594
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,040
Obey these words that I've given.

595
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,080
They're not other words.

596
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,560
They are your life.

597
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,120
By them you will live.

598
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:42,040
Now, how crazy would it be if we actually treated the word of God today in our life

599
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,360
as not idle words, but actually the very words by which we live?

600
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:46,360
Absolutely.

601
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:51,320
And a lot of people, they read these passages like that song we just read of the Old Testament

602
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,320
and they think that there's a huge contrast between the God of the Old Testament and the

603
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,880
God of the New Testament because they think there's just some sort of injustice coming

604
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,040
out there.

605
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,160
But when you look at the history of what went on in Israel, when they forgot God, when they

606
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,240
went on doing their own things, what they were doing to themselves and also the people

607
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,840
around them, I mean, there was abuse, there was murder, there was cheating.

608
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:20,560
And the Lord said, I will repay for what you did and I'll take care of it and I'll cleanse

609
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,840
it from there.

610
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,120
So there was a reason for the justice.

611
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:29,720
Well, and even with that, whose job is it to administer justice?

612
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,720
Not mine.

613
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,720
Not mine.

614
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,720
Not mine either.

615
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,720
It's not Israel's either.

616
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,720
No, it's God's.

617
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,960
It was God's job to avenge and it is his job to administer justice.

618
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,520
Now, right away, coming back to last episode, you think about the statutes, like we're called

619
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,520
to administer justice and bring about justice.

620
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,440
Of course, I'm talking about on a national level.

621
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,560
When we're talking about not necessarily standing up for people, but actually judging, like

622
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,320
standing in judgment of people.

623
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,200
The only person who actually has that authority is God.

624
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,240
We are called to bring justice to all people.

625
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,600
He's the one who actually can judge them.

626
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,640
When we take these words and then to your point where you're talking about what people

627
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,360
where they're like, man, I'm just glad I'm under the new covenant, not the old covenant.

628
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,400
I was like, well, the new covenant is the old covenant made new.

629
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,520
They're actually trying to accomplish the exact same thing.

630
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,800
It's just that Jesus changes our nature and empowers us to live by the Holy Spirit.

631
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,320
But the covenants are remarkably simple.

632
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,160
It's now it was always supposed to be about all nations.

633
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,800
Now everybody's being welcomed in.

634
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,200
He didn't come to scrap the law.

635
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,480
He came to fulfill it.

636
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,480
Right.

637
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,520
Put it on display, show you what it was always supposed to look like.

638
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:35,200
What we've said is Jesus, Torah made flesh is going to show you what Torah was always

639
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,880
supposed to look like in the life of a Christian or in the life of a Jew in that time, because

640
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,320
Christians didn't exist.

641
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,000
Christians didn't exist prior to Jesus, just so you know.

642
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,760
So in verse 48, Moses is reminded by God that he's going to die.

643
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,760
That's always a good reminder.

644
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,000
Hey, by the way, you're going to die.

645
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,560
He's going to see the land, but he's not going to go into it because both of them, he and

646
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:03,120
Aaron broke faith with him at the waters of Maraba Kadesh and did not uphold his holiness.

647
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,620
Okay.

648
00:30:04,620 --> 00:30:05,620
So this is what God says.

649
00:30:05,620 --> 00:30:06,920
Hey, you're not you're about to die.

650
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:12,120
You're going to be taken up to to your people just like Aaron was because you did not make

651
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,120
me holy.

652
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,840
Now there is a whole podcast episode where we talked about how Moses spoke to the people

653
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,680
instead of speaking to the rock and the ways that he didn't put God on display in that

654
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,680
moment.

655
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,400
So go back and check out that episode.

656
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,080
But here's what I think is really interesting about what Moses learns.

657
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:35,640
Immediately after this, Moses steps up to the people and he starts to bless them.

658
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,160
He's told that he's about to die and he's not going to go into the land because of his

659
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,560
mistakes.

660
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:46,000
And his response is to bless the people.

661
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,840
I know that I have at times through Deuteronomy been tongue in cheek hard on Moses.

662
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,880
This is a dynamite reaction.

663
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,900
This is one that I mean, I think that we should walk with every day that when we are confronted

664
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:03,120
with disappointment in life, we bless those around us.

665
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,280
When we are not allowed to do everything that we think we should be allowed to do, we bless

666
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,780
those around us.

667
00:31:07,780 --> 00:31:11,240
When we encounter hardship, we bless those around us.

668
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,840
Going back to the Aaronic blessing, the implication of the Aaronic blessing is that the priest

669
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:21,560
should bless the people because he says when you bless the people say this.

670
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,400
Well in blessing people who put you through the ringer.

671
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,400
Yeah.

672
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:31,360
Like is like we often will just kind of dumb down Moses leading Israel out of Egypt and

673
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,520
being like, oh yeah, he led them out of Egypt to the promised land.

674
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,240
Israel put him through the ringer.

675
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,240
Oh yeah.

676
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,120
Like they were not an easy people to lead.

677
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:47,600
And there was times where Moses was like you stiff necked choice words people.

678
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,320
Stiff necked choice words people.

679
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,760
There was those times and then there was times where the Lord's like, why did I do this?

680
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,760
Right.

681
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,760
Right.

682
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,360
The Israelites were not easy people to lead.

683
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,120
And Moses's response at this point is I'm going to bless you.

684
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,160
And to your point with how they felt about it or how he felt about it on multiple occasions

685
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,600
it says he cries out to God.

686
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,380
The word for cries out is the exact same word that shows up at the beginning of Exodus when

687
00:32:13,380 --> 00:32:17,000
they are crying out to the heavens because of their misery.

688
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,360
It's the same word.

689
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:24,520
He is crying out to God likely because he feels like his life is in danger.

690
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,800
There's also a little word in here for church leaders too or people who are wanting to go

691
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,080
into ministry leadership.

692
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,080
It's a sucky job.

693
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,080
Oh yeah.

694
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,080
Yeah.

695
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,400
If you're sitting here listening to this, man, I really feel the Lord's calling me into

696
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,400
ministry leadership.

697
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,060
We will bless you.

698
00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:42,060
It's a sucky job.

699
00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:43,920
No, it's going to be hard.

700
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,680
We talked about Aaron Couch, Mike, my pastor in college.

701
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,200
One of the things he told people is it says if you are called into the ministry, we're

702
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,500
going to do everything we can to help you.

703
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:56,320
But if you are not called, please do anything else besides this.

704
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:02,760
Because if you really want to do it, it is a difficult, difficult, difficult job.

705
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,880
If you think loving people as a regular Christian is really inconvenient.

706
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,440
Oh, just wait.

707
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,160
You just wait.

708
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:17,480
You don't get to get upset when they mess up your order at Starbucks anymore verbally.

709
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,040
Yeah.

710
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,040
Not a sponsor.

711
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,040
Yeah.

712
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,720
He goes and he blesses Israel.

713
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:31,000
Specifically, he blesses the tribes and he blesses specific people.

714
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,440
I'm not going to go through all of them, but it's in Deuteronomy 33 and I would recommend

715
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,180
that you guys read them because throughout scripture, they're going to reference these

716
00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:41,960
blessings that Moses puts on the people.

717
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,040
It's going to be referenced throughout the Old Testament and into the New Testament.

718
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:50,360
The authors moving forward are going to assume that you know this.

719
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,280
All of Torah, they're going to assume you are intimately familiar with when they write

720
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,120
the rest of their books.

721
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,280
So spend some time and actually learn those.

722
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,280
How crazy.

723
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,760
I mean, I just think about Moses.

724
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,840
This is his last act before he dies.

725
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,400
Can you imagine how amazing it would be, the last act of your life?

726
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:15,080
You know when you're going to die and that you gather everybody who matters to you and

727
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,320
you pronounce a blessing over them before you die.

728
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,320
Huge.

729
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,640
Can you imagine how powerful that would be in someone's life?

730
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,640
Huge.

731
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:22,640
Oh yeah.

732
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:29,000
Like, I'm about to pass on to eternity and I just want to pronounce a blessing over you.

733
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,600
That as God was faithful for me through all the years, he's going to be faithful to you.

734
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,640
God willing, that's going to be us.

735
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,640
Yeah.

736
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Yeah.

737
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,200
Yep, absolutely.

738
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:45,680
So then in chapter four, or 34, not chapter four, that was a little while ago.

739
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,520
Chapter 34, Moses climbs the mountain and you know what God does?

740
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:55,040
He shows him all of the land.

741
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,440
I don't know how that works because they describe all the areas and there's no way from the

742
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,400
top of the mountain you could actually see it.

743
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,400
But God does it.

744
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,400
He shows him everything.

745
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,840
He says, this is the land I promised.

746
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,380
I have let you see it with your eyes, but you will not go over to it.

747
00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:14,160
And I just love the grace of God in that moment.

748
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,160
Oh yeah.

749
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:21,200
Well, you know, the Bible Romans 3 23, that verse, you know, for all of sin and come short

750
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,840
of the glory of God, you know, there's sinning, which is open rebellion against God.

751
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,280
But then there's times where, when we're following Lord, those are the times when we fall short

752
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,280
of the goal that God called us to in the first place.

753
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,280
Before you go any further, finish that verse.

754
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,560
But the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

755
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,560
Awesome, right?

756
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,560
Absolutely.

757
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,080
Yeah, that's so good.

758
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,080
Such a good one, man.

759
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,480
Sorry, I interrupted you there a little bit.

760
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,480
Oh, good.

761
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,480
But like, but yeah, like we're all we're getting captive by the sin, but like the gift of God.

762
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,480
Absolutely.

763
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,040
Jew, Gentile doesn't matter because we're talking about the book of Romans.

764
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,120
He's saying it's not your justification, not the way you were brought up that justifies

765
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,160
you, but it's the gift of God because he's better than our failures.

766
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,160
It's not how you started.

767
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,160
It's how you finished.

768
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,160
Yeah.

769
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,360
Yeah, exactly.

770
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,200
To your point, Moses is sin, but the gift of God, even in this moment, oh yeah, he has

771
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,200
to see the land.

772
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,200
Yeah.

773
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:20,920
I mean, 40 years in the desert, Moses has been following God for 80 years.

774
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,000
And he actually gets to see what was coming.

775
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,880
And I just love the grace of God in that moment.

776
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,560
He got to witness the blessing that laid before them.

777
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,560
Yeah.

778
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,520
Yeah, I love it.

779
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,840
And there's a call to leaders there too, where your work that the Lord has called you to

780
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,960
is generational.

781
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,320
You should have somebody that you're building up to put in your place.

782
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:48,480
And a lot of times we've relied on other people to put people in our shoes when we're done.

783
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,840
I don't have anything against that personally, but there should be a building up of new leaders

784
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,200
and a passing of the torch.

785
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,200
Oh yeah.

786
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,920
Because we've talked about living generationally and planting tamarisk trees as a metaphor.

787
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,560
So in case you are not familiar with that, tamarisk trees take 400 years to grow.

788
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:07,560
Wow.

789
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:13,600
So when God gives Abraham his promise on the land, Abraham plants a tamarisk tree.

790
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:19,360
And 400 years later, people come out of Egypt back into the land.

791
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,280
So you don't plant a tamarisk tree for you, you plant it for your kids, kids, kids, kids,

792
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,280
kids, kids.

793
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,240
To your point, we're thinking generationally and it's amazing when God gives you a glimpse

794
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:36,880
of that future, but our job is to plant seeds and to foster and grow those seeds.

795
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,040
Have we as a church been the ones to bring in the younger to start teaching them?

796
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,280
How good have we done it with that in our areas there?

797
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,400
I think we're doing better.

798
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,040
I actually want to compliment the church.

799
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:53,520
I think that they're doing a lot better at engaging the next generation earlier and on

800
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,520
their level.

801
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Absolutely.

802
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,720
Like there are definitely churches that do it better and churches that do it worse.

803
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:02,000
But I think as a general trend, I think that the church is recognizing the need to live

804
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,000
generationally.

805
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,000
Absolutely.

806
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Absolutely.

807
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,000
I agree.

808
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,760
All right, and so let's just read those last few verses in chapter 34, starting in verse

809
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,760
five.

810
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,960
So Moses, the servant of the Lord, died there in the land of Moab, just as the Lord had

811
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:17,960
said.

812
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,160
The Lord buried him in the valley near Beth Piora in Moab.

813
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,960
But to this day, no one knows the exact place.

814
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:32,600
Moses was 120 years old when he died, yet his eyesight was clear and he was as strong

815
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,400
as ever.

816
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:40,680
The people of Israel mourned for Moses in the plains of Moab for 30 days until the customary

817
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,280
period of mourning was over.

818
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:49,400
Now Joshua, son of Nun, was full of the spirit of wisdom, for Moses had laid hands on him.

819
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:54,920
So the people of Israel obeyed him just as the Lord had commanded Moses.

820
00:38:54,920 --> 00:39:01,560
There has never been another prophet in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face.

821
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:09,600
The Lord sent him to perform all the miracles and signs and wonders in all the land of Egypt

822
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:15,000
against Pharaoh and his servants and his entire land.

823
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:21,720
With mighty power, Moses performed terrifying acts in the sight of all of Israel.

824
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:22,720
That's quite the epitaph.

825
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:23,720
Yeah.

826
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:27,400
And so like all of our conversation about Moses, we always want to come back to the

827
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,520
fact that there was not a prophet that knew God in the same way that Moses did.

828
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,560
This was a definite change in relationship between God and humanity.

829
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,360
Like something shifted in Moses.

830
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,360
Yeah.

831
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,320
Now I take that step back because obviously in the garden, Adam and Eve had a different

832
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,680
kind of relationship with God.

833
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,600
But this like we talk about Noah and then we talk about like he walked with God, but

834
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,440
Abraham actually had a more symbiotic relationship with God where he was his God and he would

835
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,440
follow him.

836
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,440
But Moses was different.

837
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,600
It was a different thing.

838
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:05,240
For Abraham's relationship, it was the Lord revealing to him more and more who God was

839
00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:10,440
from the background that Abraham came from with his early childhood and his growing up.

840
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,920
Well, and Moses knew God's name.

841
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,160
I mean all Israel knew God's name, but Moses was the one who was told God's name.

842
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:21,680
You know, it's interesting Moses didn't want to be the one involved in the Exodus, but

843
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,280
think of all the things that wouldn't have happened.

844
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,720
Now they would have happened because God would have accomplished his will one way or the

845
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:28,720
other.

846
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:29,720
Yeah.

847
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:33,400
But think of the things that Moses would not have got to be a part of if he hadn't said

848
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,880
yes begrudgingly.

849
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,360
Moses is an all too relatable character in scripture.

850
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:46,880
Because when he was called at the burning bush, he gave five excuses, which are all

851
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,880
too relatable.

852
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,440
Like, I don't talk well enough.

853
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,280
Like I'm just not good at this.

854
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,280
I don't want to.

855
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,560
And his last one was I just don't want to.

856
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,560
Right.

857
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,040
It's too when he was leading, he didn't do things perfectly.

858
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,880
He messed things up.

859
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:08,000
He had times where we were talking about earlier where he was crying out to the Lord in such

860
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:13,040
misery and pain because of the position he had that he was like, these people are just

861
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,720
horrible to work with and crying out to the Lord.

862
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:18,420
He did not do things perfectly.

863
00:41:18,420 --> 00:41:19,420
He messed up.

864
00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:20,420
He screwed up.

865
00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:25,040
And he was someone who followed after the Lord and constantly tried to return to the

866
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,120
Lord and come back to the Lord when he when he was in those spots.

867
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,960
And I think I think we saw that demonstrated through even the book of Deuteronomy.

868
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,640
It seems like Moses, even from the beginning of the book to the end of the book, learned

869
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,920
something about trusting God in the moment, trusting the story.

870
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,200
Yeah.

871
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,280
And part of Moses's difficulty is there's times where the Lord's okay, I'm going to

872
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,280
provide for the Israelites.

873
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,120
And Moses is like, I don't like these people right now.

874
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,120
Yeah.

875
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,400
I mean, I mean, I learned a lot from the water from the rock.

876
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,400
Yeah.

877
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,720
Where the Lord says, hey, go speak to the rock.

878
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:56,840
And Moses goes over there and hits it with a stick.

879
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,840
Yeah.

880
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,840
And I mean, I totally feel him.

881
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,800
Like I learned as much from Moses's mistakes as I do from his faithfulness.

882
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,800
Yeah.

883
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,160
That that whole experience like you're like, yep, I get that.

884
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,920
I get being upset.

885
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,920
So this is the end of Deuteronomy.

886
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,800
And so let's just let's just take a look back and just think about what's going on in Deuteronomy.

887
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:18,360
Like the big things that come up over and over again is remember where you come from.

888
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:25,400
Remember, remember, remember it comes over up over again and again and again and again.

889
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,360
I don't think that we can try to remember the story enough.

890
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,240
Now one of the things you and I had talked about when we were talking about festivals

891
00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:38,000
and we talked about like the Passover, I've done those Seder dinners in the past and they

892
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,920
tell the story of the Exodus and God's faithfulness and bringing them out of Egypt and all these

893
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,920
different things.

894
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,700
And as I'm telling the story, I'm just familiar with the fact that we don't tell the story

895
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:50,000
often in the church.

896
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,600
Like we're in a hurry to run and talk about Paul, which I love Paul.

897
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,000
Okay.

898
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,660
And we're in a hurry to go and tell the story of Jesus.

899
00:42:57,660 --> 00:42:59,280
And I love Jesus.

900
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:06,180
But Jesus is taking the story from the Old Testament and bring it into a new context.

901
00:43:06,180 --> 00:43:08,040
We don't tell the story of where we've been.

902
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,520
And a lot of times, like I'll be honest with you, we don't even tell the story of Jesus.

903
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,120
We like to talk about his death, burial and resurrection and forget about his life.

904
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:22,080
But church, podcast listeners, we need to tell the story.

905
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,840
We need more conversations like this where we just talk about the Bible.

906
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:32,600
Or we just discuss how God moves and how we can be a little bit more faithful.

907
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,960
Like Deuteronomy, man, next generation.

908
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,440
Remember, think generationally.

909
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,640
You've made mistakes.

910
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:41,640
Here are pitfalls.

911
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,960
What are your big takeaways from Deuteronomy?

912
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,240
Oh, there's a couple things.

913
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:55,360
So one, Deuteronomy really in many ways is a love letter to Israel from Moses where he

914
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,520
is explaining his mistakes.

915
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,400
He's telling them about his mistakes.

916
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,200
He's telling Israel like, hey, follow after the Lord.

917
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,320
He reminds them you're going to screw it up.

918
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,440
And the Lord's like, yeah, they are.

919
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,600
All right.

920
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,600
I agree.

921
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,600
Yes.

922
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,760
And so he reminds them you're not going to do this perfectly and Israel does not.

923
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,600
If you continue reading through the Old Testament, you'll find that.

924
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:24,320
But Moses here is he's saying, hey, I didn't do this perfectly and I really wish I could

925
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,920
go with you.

926
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:31,200
But I'm going to bless you because I love you all dearly.

927
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,720
Despite the fact that they put him through the wringer.

928
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:39,520
Even towards the tail end where they do this whole song where it's like you're going to

929
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,440
screw it up and then they're like, hey, but here you're going to be blessed.

930
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,560
Here's how we're going to bless.

931
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,320
So that's one thing takes me away.

932
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,480
That that is a takeaway for me is just the love Moses has for Israel.

933
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,840
And then the other thing is Moses is as much as Moses didn't recount all the stories correctly,

934
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:01,380
there is an honesty to whether he did things right or wrong in the book and the owning

935
00:45:01,380 --> 00:45:07,360
up to how I did things well and how I did not.

936
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,880
And that in and of itself is huge.

937
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,400
And we need more of that in the church.

938
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,360
What about you, Caleb?

939
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,440
You know, I think some of the biggest takeaways I have from doing Erotomy is that when you

940
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:26,840
just go reading it, you know, it's our misperception of it is that it's just a bunch of laws of

941
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:32,160
what to do and what not to do when in reality it explains what happened.

942
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,860
It explains the good, the bad, the ugly.

943
00:45:33,860 --> 00:45:36,160
It doesn't hold anything back.

944
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:41,900
But yet it's done for, you know, even our own benefit to this day and just the powerful

945
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:47,640
transitioning for in leadership, you know, to the next generation, you know, to to the

946
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,860
younger, you know, I mean, what if what if Moses didn't take the time to invest that

947
00:45:52,860 --> 00:45:54,720
time into Joshua?

948
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:59,640
Because with all due respect, you know, the Lord will accomplish his purpose in any way

949
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:00,640
he can.

950
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:06,400
But, you know, you don't see the Lord sitting there mentoring, you know, Joshua on on a

951
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,960
mountain somewhere.

952
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:14,000
But instead, Moses made himself the vessel that was also also giving, you know, Joshua

953
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,360
these years and these experiences.

954
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:22,600
And, you know, in in what I do as a prison chaplain here in town, I experienced that

955
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:29,840
firsthand, you know, from the previous chaplain, the previous chaplain trained me up and he

956
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,240
came to a place where he was no longer able to do it.

957
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:40,560
So I am not qualified to be in the jail, to minister, to to train others.

958
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,160
But I'm called, you know, regardless of it.

959
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,560
And the Lord has blessed it.

960
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:51,880
And I know what it's like to have ministers in even in the jail turn on me because they

961
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,760
didn't like they didn't like a younger guy.

962
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,720
They didn't like, you know, somebody who presented a different plan.

963
00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:04,440
Many of them are gone and many of them verbally came after me.

964
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,720
But it was the Lord that kept me through it even to this day.

965
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:11,520
So there's the good, the bad, the ugly.

966
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:18,200
But the faithfulness of God, as witnessed by Moses, Moses reflected that into Joshua.

967
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,320
Right.

968
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,160
I think of last few weeks, one of the things that I was thinking about is is like last

969
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,840
week we talked about this whole thing of the blessings and the curses and which one are

970
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,840
you going to choose.

971
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,760
And then the curses he talks about how it's it's the outside, then it's your neighbors,

972
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,680
then it's your crops and then it's your food and then it's your animals and then it's your

973
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:35,680
family.

974
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:36,680
Everything's going to get devoured.

975
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,480
You see this this cycle of what sin does to you.

976
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,840
It starts with a very small thing, but it completely devours you.

977
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:50,160
And right about the time that there's no hope, it says, but if you listen to the voice, there

978
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,100
is no shadow too deep.

979
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:56,400
There is no mountain too tall.

980
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,820
There's no distance that's too far.

981
00:47:58,820 --> 00:48:04,800
There is no egregious sin too big that God won't completely restore you and vindicate

982
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:05,800
you.

983
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,680
Now, does that mean the consequences of our actions are going to go away?

984
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,640
No, of course not, because Moses didn't go into the land.

985
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,440
But I don't think any of us would argue that Moses was vindicated by God through his life.

986
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,440
Absolutely.

987
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:23,240
The consequences didn't go away, but he absolutely was vindicated by God.

988
00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:27,000
And I just praise how loving God is in those situations.

989
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:33,080
If there's one thing that we take away from Torah is that God loves people a lot and he's

990
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,480
going to do whatever it takes to destroy the gods that you trust in so that you place your

991
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,620
faith in him.

992
00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:41,620
So that's Deuteronomy.

993
00:48:41,620 --> 00:48:42,620
That was fun.

994
00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:43,620
Yeah.

995
00:48:43,620 --> 00:48:44,620
That was fun.

996
00:48:44,620 --> 00:48:51,400
If you are looking to get in touch with us, we are available at lovingcontext.gmail.com.

997
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,640
We're on Facebook, we're on Instagram, we're on TikTok, and you can message us any of those

998
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,640
places.

999
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,640
You can always send us questions for the Q&A.

1000
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,440
Like I said at the beginning, you may get us for this Q&A and maybe for the next one.

1001
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,440
Sometimes we'll just write you back answers and then we'll bring your question into Q&A

1002
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,440
later.

1003
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,640
So we won't make you wait 25 weeks to hear from us.

1004
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,400
Caleb, we enjoyed having you.

1005
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,840
Hopefully we can get you here for one of our mini-series that are coming up.

1006
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:13,840
All right.

1007
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:14,840
You just hit me up.

1008
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,520
I'm available and this has been fun.

1009
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,000
We'll just hope that you're not in jail.

1010
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,000
Oh, I'm not afraid of going back.

1011
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,000
All right.

1012
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,000
Thanks everybody.

1013
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,120
You have a good week.

1014
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,220
That's a wrap for today's episode.

1015
00:49:27,220 --> 00:49:32,360
We want to extend a heartfelt thank you for tuning in and spending your valuable time

1016
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,360
with us.

1017
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:39,060
We hope that you found today's conversation insightful and that you take something meaningful

1018
00:49:39,060 --> 00:49:40,060
from it.

1019
00:49:40,060 --> 00:49:43,860
If you have questions or comments, we would love to hear from you.

1020
00:49:43,860 --> 00:49:50,000
Reach out to us at lovingcontext.gmail.com and we will be sure to get back to you.

1021
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,400
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1022
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,120
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1023
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:04,640
Don't forget to follow us on social media at lovingcontext on Instagram and Facebook

1024
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,600
for updates.

1025
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,880
Welcome back to the Love and Context Podcast.

1026
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,880
Thank you for that.

1027
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,880
Let's do it one more time.

1028
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,440
Moses, and he says, no, sorry, I said that all wrong.

1029
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:18,840
I said it all wrong.

1030
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:23,040
When I edited this out, you were wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong,

1031
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,040
you cannot read.

1032
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,040
Okay.

1033
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,040
Say that again.

1034
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:50,040
Okay.

