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Welcome to the Love and Context podcast, engaging in unscripted conversations with your hosts,

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Ben and Spencer.

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Whether you're tuning in from your car, your office, your home, or anywhere in between,

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we are so happy to have you join us today.

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Our mission is simple, to explore the Bible through a powerful lens of love.

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Together we'll uncover fresh insights and gain deeper understandings of how we can love

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God and love the people in our everyday lives.

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So buckle up and join us on the spiritual journey as we discover timeless wisdom that

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is just as relevant today as it was thousands of years ago.

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Without further ado, let's dive right in.

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Welcome to the Love and Context podcast.

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I'm one of your hosts, Ben.

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And I'm Spencer.

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Also another host.

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I just like to throw Ben off before I hear him.

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Exactly.

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It's kind of like an exercise in like, how can I mess with Ben during the podcast?

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Yeah, every-

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It's not just that.

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It's also like on Sunday morning when we're doing music in practice and you're like, what

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kind of drumbeat can I throw in here to see if it messes with him?

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah.

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So that's the kind of relationship that we have.

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On a different note, we did like an all city worship night and I was doing that all throughout

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the worship service.

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Oh yeah, you were.

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Like I was like, I'm going to do this little thing here and see what Ben does.

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And there's a couple of times where Ben just like turned his head and was like, what are

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Nobody else noticed.

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Yep.

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I definitely have, like it is part of my mental function that I just notice little things

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and then I pick them up.

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And I've gotten really good at ignoring them.

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You know, really good, but sometimes, sometimes it is click over the top.

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So all right.

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We had Pastor Sarah over the last couple of weeks and that was great.

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I was just listening back to those episodes and I was like, man, we got to get her on

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more, which we are.

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She's going to be coming back and I don't know when, but a little bit.

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Season two, maybe just start out the season.

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It just depends on what we decide to start out with.

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Next week we're going to have Caleb Fox.

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He is a prison minister.

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He's going to be coming, prison chaplain.

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He's going to be coming and just sitting with us for a couple of weeks talking about the

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end of Deuteronomy.

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But today you guys are excited.

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I can tell, I can tell.

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You're not even listening yet.

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I'm actually recording it right now, but I can tell that you're excited because we're

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in Deuteronomy 19 through 25.

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These are some really cool chapters.

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Like really, if there's, if there's a chunk of Deuteronomy that you really want to spend

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time in, this is some of my favorite stuff right here.

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Well, and if you're, if you're wondering about like sections of Deuteronomy that Jesus quotes

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from a lot, it's actually here because he's having conversations with the Pharisees.

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We'll point out a few of them along the way, but if you have not read Deuteronomy 19 through

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25, you should do that.

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Pause the podcast, put it on audio Bible, put it on you version.

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Your copy is great.

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Get some coffee.

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Don't rush spend some time, like let it actually marinate because we're going to assume that

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you've read this before, before we start discussing some of these things.

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I, once again, I want to preface one of the things we talked about at the beginning of

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Deuteronomy is it's not necessarily helpful to compare their laws to our modern laws.

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We need to make sure that we're contextualizing it with the laws that are around them and

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what is God speaking into?

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What is it actually meant to, to correct or change?

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So one of the first things that comes up in chapter 19 of Deuteronomy is this thing called

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cities of refuge.

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Now, this is not the first time they've been mentioned.

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He's just mentioning it again.

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So what's the deals with cities of refuge?

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Like what, what, why, why are these even a thing?

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Because like in our modern context, that doesn't even make sense.

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It's like, Hey, listen, if something happens and somebody is after you go and go to Boston,

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go to Boston and you can hang out there for a while.

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And our modern context is called running.

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Whether that's from the law or from a life situation or something like that versus here,

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it's saying like, if something actually happened, go to these places.

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So the cities of refuge is a place that you're supposed to flee to if something happens that

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was unintentional.

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And I want to stress unintentional because there's, there's another caveat that they

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add in here when they're talking about it.

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So the example that Moses throws out there is if you're in the woods, cutting down some

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woods and the axe slips in it, hit somebody else and they die.

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You fleeted these cities of refuge so that if somebody who they're feeling the blood

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lust, right?

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Think about a Hapfields and McCoy.

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That this is where you go to find safety because you stay in your home, like they're going

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to come after you.

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They're going to come after your family, et cetera.

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Because it wasn't actually something that you meant to do.

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is not the place for you.

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In fact, he says that you actually need to go and get the elders and the elders are actually

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going to bring you out of that city and take you back to the place for judgment.

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So this is, this is legitimately set up for people who do something unintentionally.

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Now why is that important?

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Because that's different than the laws that they had at the land.

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The laws of the land is if you take from, if you take from me and I, I can take from

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you your life.

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Might makes right.

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And that's going to come up in just a little bit.

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So just FYI, there is actually two little mini chiasms.

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They're not going to actually draw them out for you in chapter 19, but you can go find

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One centers on the accidental and one centers on the intentional.

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The center of the first one talks about like what constitutes an accident, something that

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accidentally happens.

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being achieved.

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And then that section concludes with don't move your neighbor's boundary line.

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Now the boundary line, of course, that is your land and it's going to be your clan's

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land is going to be your family's family's land for generation after generation after

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generation.

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And so these boundary lines are meant to mark where these places are.

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So it's more than just stuff.

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It's actually like their identity.

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So this is more than just don't try to take part of your neighbor's stuff.

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Obviously don't do that.

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It's like the same commandments.

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Don't steal.

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But it's broader than that.

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It's literally more like don't take part of somebody's identity.

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So when you're talking land in the Old Testament, that was usually inherited down through generations.

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And now we're still in Deuteronomy.

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Like we're still in the desert wandering years.

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They're crossing over into the promised land.

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But it's about to be different.

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It's about to be different.

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Versus like land today, like both you and I own a house.

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So if we wanted to sell our house and buy a different house, we could do that.

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So it's not necessarily applicable for us.

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But I do actually think that there's a good conversation here about boundaries in people's

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lives.

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In the literal context, it doesn't necessarily apply to the way that we buy and sell houses.

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But let's not get into metaphorical context and boundaries.

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One of the things I've gotten some pushback on over the last couple of years, as I said,

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it's okay to have boundaries in your life.

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Where people say, you know, they say, hey, can you go and do this?

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You say, I cannot.

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And they say, oh, why are you busy?

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You don't have to answer someone.

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It's okay if you want to keep that private.

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Because a lot of times when somebody is asking, are you busy?

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They're looking for a way to convince you that you should do what they want you to do.

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And by the way, people, that's not appropriate.

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It's totally appropriate to ask for help, to invite people in, to explain to them that

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you really need their help, all those things.

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But it's not okay to guilt trip people.

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It's actually a form of manipulation.

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It's absolutely a form of manipulation.

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I have grown up in the church and the church is incredibly proficient at gaslighting and

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manipulating people.

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Now that is not a church exclusive thing.

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But I think that we guise it up in religious garb.

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And then we try to justify it away, which by the way, goes back to our conversation.

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Like I was talking about with Solomon, right?

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Where Solomon's like, oh, well, I have to have this, this wedding because of a treaty

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or because of unity between the tribes or the nations.

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And he justifies why he now has 900 wives.

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Usually we justify these things for righteousness sake, but you can't do evil for righteousness

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sake, which is actually the new movie, Neighbor's Line.

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So I worked in the ministry a number of years ago where we had one guy who was helping out

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who was kind of flighty.

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He was in and out.

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You never really knew.

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So I just told him, I was like, here's what I want from you.

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If he can be there, here's when we're doing things here, the things I'd like you to help

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If he can be there, let me know.

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And he would let me know more often or not it was, he could not be there.

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So we didn't count on him.

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We filled his, filled what he was doing with other people's responsibilities.

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And then when he came back, he's like, oh, well, that's what I usually do.

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It actually led to a great conversation of like, Hey, here's the deal.

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Like we've been doing this for a while.

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We asked if he could be like, we asked, just let us know if he can be here or can't be

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here.

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And so you're now wanting to show back up again.

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That's great.

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Why don't you show up for six months and then we'll start adding responsibilities back

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when we play.

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Just show up and be here.

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You're also helping establish healthy boundaries on your side and his side.

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And just to add some nuance to that conversation, if the guy had come to you and been like, well,

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I want to talk about like how I can be more involved, then you might have a nuance of

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conversation about why can't you, but that's an invited conversation, not one where I'm

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demanding answers.

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So a good example in my life is I Sabbath Friday night, Saturday night.

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I don't work.

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I don't focus on anything that is work.

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We've actually gone to the point where they do men's breakfasts, which I actually do really

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like men's breakfast cause I love bacon, but they do them on Saturday morning and I don't

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go.

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Part of the reason I don't go is cause every time I go to a church function, it feels a

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little bit like work.

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And after so many years in ministry, I rarely can go to something and just actually relax.

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And it causes me to lose focus to lose focus on what Shabbat is supposed to be.

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And so I've had people ask, they're like, well, are you going to go to men's breakfast?

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I said, no, I'm not.

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I said, not because I don't think it's a great thing.

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I think it's a great thing.

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If we have it on Sunday, I'll be there.

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Have it on Friday.

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I'll be there.

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And then the same situation is somebody needed help and they said, well, we really need some

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help on Saturday.

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And I showed up and they said, well, I thought you, you Shabbat on Saturday.

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I said, what I've been very clear on is that I rest and I, we play, we remember that God

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loves us on Sabbath, but loving God and loving other people is more important than that.

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And so when there is a, when there's a situation where I need to love people more than I need

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my rest, I'm going to step into that.

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Now you can only do that occasionally.

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You can't do that on a regular basis or else your boundary is, is no, I was like, but it's,

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it's actually, if you've had conversations with me about Sabbath, something I talk about

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quite a bit is that when I have the situation where I need to love people more than my own

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personal boundary, I'm going to, I'm going to move past that to do that.

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Does that make sense?

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Yeah.

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And when Jesus talks about, Hey, let your yes be yes and your no be no.

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Like the other part of that, that we don't often talk about is we need to be willing

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to accept people's yeses and accept their no's.

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A lot of times we're like, okay, we'll accept the yes, but then no comes around and like,

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we need to question that and figure out why they can't do that.

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Well, and just one more thing on boundaries.

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Cause we could stay here for a while.

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I mean, honestly, we probably will talk about boundaries and maybe a topical episode in

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the future, but churches need to start putting together job descriptions and expectations.

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I have seen too many times for pastors, they they're like, we expect you to be at this

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and this and this and this, and they find out as they're going.

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I think that if you set clear expectations off the get-go in a job description, it is

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very helpful.

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Yeah.

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But it's not helpful if you give them a job description and then you're asking them to

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do things that aren't in their job description.

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Last thing on this and move on.

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But last thing on boundaries is also church boards.

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They need to be willing to back the boundaries that they set for the pastors.

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Oh, a hundred percent.

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Because oftentimes a pastor will come in and then volunteers will be like, actually, you're

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supposed to do this.

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Yeah.

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And it's actually the church boards need to be like, no, these are the boundaries we set

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for our pastoral staff.

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Yeah.

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And so those need to be honored.

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And then the volunteers are coming in and be like, actually, you need to do this, this,

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this, and this.

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The board actually needs to be willing to step in and be like, no, those are not the boundaries

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we set for.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah.

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So we got to protect our pastors as well.

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Yeah.

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Pastors have a tendency to overcommit and overwork, and we need to also enforce their

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boundaries that they need to rest.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So thus far in 19, it's actually been a lot about justice so far, which is not surprising

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that's continuing on the conversation from last week.

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So with continuing that conversation, in one of the episodes we had with Pastor Sarah, we

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talked about that there needs to be two witnesses.

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And he reiterates this again.

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He says, one witness is not enough.

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You need two or three witnesses.

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Now that's a really important thing for justice because one person is going to make an accusation.

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You need to actually be able to corroborate that testimony.

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Right?

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One of the things I like to point out here is in America, our word is not very important.

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Like people lie all the time.

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I think that it's important to understand that in a Middle Eastern culture, specifically

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this time period, your word is your entire being.

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If you give your word, you're committing your life behind it, which is also which comes

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up when Jesus says, if you proclaim with your mouth, Jesus is Lord.

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Right?

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When you're saying Jesus is Lord, you say Jesus is Lord.

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Sorry, Paul says that, but when you say Jesus is Lord, you're saying Caesar is not.

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And you're actually committing your life one way or another.

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So the testimony of one witness isn't enough.

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If you get two or three people who are witnessing to the same thing, it becomes a more serious

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accusation because it's a lot more tangible process for them.

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It's why the Pharisees actually had to pay off witnesses in the trial of Jesus.

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Yeah.

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Because there wasn't actually any tangible.

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And we do want to point out once again, we are talking about the Jewish mafia.

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When we say Pharisees, the Pharisees and Sadducees, the ruling council.

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I do not want you to associate with the same people that Jesus spent three years with talking

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in the triangle.

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Yeah.

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Those are different people.

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We'll have a conversation about that at some point.

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So they have to investigate it thoroughly.

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If the witness is a liar after the examination, they find them to be a liar.

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You actually are supposed to do to the witness what they want to done to the person who was

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accused.

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It seems appropriate.

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People will hear about that and they won't try to do that.

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Now once again, this reminds me of the unfaithful wife.

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You're coming to the priest and there's recourse.

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And if you know there's nothing wrong, you're going to go there.

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He's going to be publicly shamed.

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If you have a witness who brings something against you, you're like, fine, let's go to

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the priest, let him examine the situation.

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I know that I didn't do this and then you're going to have to deal with whatever repercussions

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you actually want for me.

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There is a chiasm here again in chapter 19, a little mini one, and it centers on the responsibility

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of the judges to make diligent inquisition is the words that it centers on.

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So they're supposed to do the hard work to figure out the truth.

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It's not a haphazard decision.

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So I have a friend and I really respect him for this.

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One of his life policies is that someone has to prove to me themselves whether they're

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good or bad persons.

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Meaning that if someone comes up to me and is like, hey, you don't want to spend time

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with that person because of this.

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He's like, no, they have to prove that to me.

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That person has to prove that to me because there is a chance that they could be a changed

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person from when that other person knew them.

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Oh, absolutely.

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And he's like, yeah, I've been burned a number of times by that policy.

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He's like, but I'm not letting that go because I've also had a number of times where people

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have been like, this person is a horrible person and you get to know him and you're

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like, actually they're not.

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They're a wonderful person.

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Well, there are people in this town who have said some questionable things about me and

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you.

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I was going to leave you off.

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People only say good things about Spencer.

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And you know, the biggest thing I have to say is I was like, get to know me and make

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the determination for yourself.

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Yeah.

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Listen, I'm going to love people even if they say bad things about me.

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Yeah.

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It's like that's part of loving my enemies.

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And there's also just the element for when you do have bad things, you shake the dust

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off your feet.

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Yeah.

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I've been prepping some of the questions that are coming up in our Q and A in like four

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weeks.

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Yeah.

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One of the things I noticed in the Q and A's is that like questions, comments that we get

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usually are about things that are people are unsure about or they like to argue about.

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And I'm not going to stop saying those things guys.

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And it's okay if you don't like me because of it, but we need to have real conversations

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about these things.

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If you dislike me because I'm trying to have a real conversation, I can live with that.

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We're going to make content.

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You get to make all the comments you want.

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Yeah.

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Real conversations require disagreement, require struggle.

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Well, you think like a couple of weeks ago, like Pastor Sarah and I, we had some disagreements

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about what is giving and tithing look like.

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Didn't matter.

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We're going to figure it out together.

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You guys haven't talked since then.

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We've just joking.

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Oh man.

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No, I did text her and say, asked her if she watched the video on YouTube and if she was

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okay with the way she looked because we did not forewarn her that we were videoing.

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Okay.

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True story.

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So this section of chapter 19 actually ends with this conversation about a quote that

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we're pretty familiar with life for life, eye for an eye, tooth for tooth, hand for

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hand and foot for foot.

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So we talked about Samson and we talked about this escalation of evil that happens in the

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book of judges in the story of Samson.

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And it's you don't take an eye for a hand and you don't take a life for an eye.

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You don't attack somebody's family because you're mad at the person.

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A lot of times this quote has come up in historically in when people have used this quote, it's

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usually one people who don't really follow Jesus and they use this quote to justify getting

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even.

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Yeah.

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This, this isn't about getting even.

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It's about making sure there's non-escalation.

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Well, I think more than that too, it's about make sure you're doing your best to treat

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each other fairly.

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Exactly.

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Because it's coming on the heel of don't lie.

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Don't, don't move your neighbor's boundaries.

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If you do something accidentally, here's where you flee.

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Don't take an eye for a tooth or a, or a life for an eye.

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Like it has to be equal to what's actually going on.

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Someone takes your hand.

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You don't deserve their head.

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Which once again, looking at the code around them, Hamarami's code, looking at some of

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the Chaldean codes, if somebody attacks you, you have the right to just go and demolish

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them.

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And God says, Nope, you don't get that right.

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And that's important.

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Yeah.

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Now out of that as well, Jesus references this in the Sermon on the Mount.

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He says, you have heard it said an eye for an eye and a tooth or a tooth.

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I say unto you to pray for those who persecute you.

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Yes.

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Jesus is correcting what it was always supposed to be.

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This was always supposed to be about treating the people around you better, about actually

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bringing kingdom to earth, about being set apart and holy different.

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And please hear that because it's also in Sermon on the Mount where Jesus says, I'm

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here to fulfill the law, right?

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Abolish it.

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And then, but you read through the Sermon on the Mount and if you just take it at face

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value, you can be like, well, he's changing it.

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And so you actually, he's telling you what it was always supposed to be.

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Yeah.

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He's telling you what it was supposed to be.

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Yeah.

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And so he's, he's correcting the perverted views that we had, that they had at the time.

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Yeah.

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We're going to, we're going to link a episode in the show notes from Baymah.

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It's called Abolish or Fulfill where, where Marty talks about that and it's really good.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, just helping you understand what does it actually mean when you say abolish

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or fulfill?

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Yeah.

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So going into chapter 20, they're continuing this conversation, but now he shifts and he's

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talking about they're about to go into conquest, right?

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They're going to have to go into the land and we've had a lot of conversations about

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the lands.

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I'm not going to rehash the conversation we've had about does put to death mean put to death

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sometimes, but not always necessarily.

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It's important though that he reminds them you're going to go and face odds that are

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way better than you.

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Yeah.

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People that are way better.

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They've got way better weapons.

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They got way better technology.

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They have more people.

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So don't be afraid because God's going with you.

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Yeah.

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I, I find that highly encouraging because I don't know about you, but I often feel outnumbered

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in the world.

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Yeah.

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Same here.

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This is as good a call for us as, as don't worry about it.

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God's going with you.

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And for application for us, like look at how many we've talked about this, but the number

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of ridiculous battle plans, the war is laid out for Israel.

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Hey, go march around the city.

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Yep.

495
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,840
Blow horns and shout, Hey, 300 of you is going to take down over 120,000.

496
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,640
By the way, you're not going to use any weapons.

497
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,640
It's like, okay.

498
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,640
Siding out on that one.

499
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,040
I once had someone tell me the story of Gideon.

500
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,680
They're like, well, the reason that was is because they were, the army was in the valley.

501
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,800
They were on the hillside that each torch could have represented up to 10,000 soldiers.

502
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,420
So they could have thought that they had a hundred or 300,000 soldiers and the army's

503
00:20:16,420 --> 00:20:17,560
down below could have been scared.

504
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,320
I was like, there's one problem with that argument.

505
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,320
And they're like, what?

506
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:28,360
I was like, there is no way to make 300 sound like 300,000.

507
00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:31,560
But even in that context, there is no way.

508
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,500
And even if that's the case, are you, are you telling me that 30,000 wouldn't have looked

509
00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:36,500
like 3 million?

510
00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:37,500
Uh huh.

511
00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:38,500
Yeah.

512
00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:42,360
You know, I mean, I like, and so like, you gotta understand what is the point of the

513
00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:44,360
story is the point is that God won the battle.

514
00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:45,360
Yeah, exactly.

515
00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:46,800
It was the battle belongs to God.

516
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:47,800
Exactly.

517
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:48,800
Not to you.

518
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,760
There is a couple of things here that I just want to know because I think it's, it's just

519
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,360
good practice in, in probably military, but I'm just going to mention the new military.

520
00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:58,480
So they actually excuse people for certain reasons.

521
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,080
If a person's built a house, but they haven't lived in it yet.

522
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,080
Yeah.

523
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,240
Once again, much more tied to the land than we are a person with a vineyard that hasn't

524
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,760
enjoyed it yet.

525
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,400
Because otherwise in both those situations, somebody else might enjoy it.

526
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,240
If you die in battle, if you're pledged to be married, have you not been married yet?

527
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,600
Go get married and actually later they're going to talk about that.

528
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,920
You get a full year before you actually are required to show up for military service.

529
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,320
Sometime when we talk about Hebrew weddings, we'll actually go into some context about

530
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,520
like the ways that they like why they have a year, but they have a year that they're

531
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,860
they're excused from civic duty.

532
00:21:31,860 --> 00:21:35,640
And then the last one is anyone who is faint hearted so that they don't affect anyone else.

533
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,400
Now I actually think that's probably one of the best things that we could take for our

534
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,240
churches today.

535
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:48,600
Oftentimes we are trying to convince people to go into battle that are faint hearted.

536
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,720
And the fact that they go with us actually discourages everyone else.

537
00:21:52,720 --> 00:22:00,240
There are people who are worry warts and their worry becomes infectious.

538
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:05,660
And sometimes it's okay to just say, hey, why don't you stay home and watch the house?

539
00:22:05,660 --> 00:22:09,000
Because we got to go and we got to go and take some ground.

540
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,520
It's going to be much more productive for you to worry about things over here than it

541
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,360
is for you to worry about what we're going to do.

542
00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:20,080
Now notice that he doesn't he doesn't say that any of these people are bad people.

543
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,840
It just says that if they're faint hearted, leave them home.

544
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,120
We actually want people who are sold out to the mission.

545
00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:34,600
Pastors we actually want people who are sold out for the mission.

546
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:40,680
I'd rather five people sold out for God than 500 who are whims a day's goal about it.

547
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,960
I think the presentation of sold out can differ too from person to person.

548
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:46,960
Oh, absolutely.

549
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,520
Yeah, absolutely.

550
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,040
And I'm not what I'm not suggesting is every person is like, let's go take a look.

551
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,800
You know, like I'm not saying everybody like everybody's personality is going to be different,

552
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,520
but you want people who are committed to the cause of the kingdom, which is to love God,

553
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,160
love other people and that all the world would know.

554
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,160
Yeah.

555
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,440
So the next thing on war that they mentioned here in this Deuteronomy 20 is that you have

556
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,920
to offer peace first.

557
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,640
You can't just go in and wail on them.

558
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,240
You have to go in and say, hey, let's make peace.

559
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,800
If they're like, no, then you have the option to go.

560
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,080
Which by the way, I was actually thinking about that as you were saying it is it makes

561
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,760
it so that you can't have any surprise attacks on your enemy.

562
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:27,760
Yeah.

563
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,920
Yeah, you can't have you're not being sneaky.

564
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,920
Yeah.

565
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,240
And in Deuteronomy 20, you're going in with genuine, let's make peace.

566
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,760
If they don't want that, then there's then there's war that could happen.

567
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,760
Yeah.

568
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,800
And this actually leads into what Jesus actually talks about in John 17 when it's correcting

569
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:44,800
the neighbor.

570
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,800
Yeah.

571
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,680
Where where it's like, no, you go in with a conversation for right.

572
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:55,200
And and to to be specific, they are specifically talking about cities that are not part of

573
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,200
the land that's been promised.

574
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,200
Yes.

575
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,200
So because we're going to get to that.

576
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,720
Some of you are already typing and like, hold on, we're going to get to those.

577
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,960
But basically they go and they will they will offer them peace if they accept you're not

578
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,960
going to attack them.

579
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,080
And if they refuse, then you have to go to war with them and drive them out.

580
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,480
And that's how you treat all the cities that are nearby that are not part of the land that's

581
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,480
been given to you.

582
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,200
Now, the flip side of that, if there are from the land that is given to you, you got to

583
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,200
go clean house.

584
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,200
Yes.

585
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,720
In verse 18, it says otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things

586
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,360
they do in worshiping their gods and you will sin against the Lord your God.

587
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:28,080
So how do I know in the book of Joshua?

588
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:34,960
They don't drive everybody out because they teach them all the detestable things and they

589
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,360
do in worshiping their gods and they still sin against the Lord their God.

590
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:42,240
Yeah, I do want to make a note here because I think this is a really interesting piece.

591
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,040
It says when laying siege, don't destroy food bearing trees because Moses says are the trees

592
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,520
people that you should besiege them?

593
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,320
Like obviously the answer is no.

594
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:55,040
And really practically to like if you take over a child, you don't want to destroy the

595
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,040
agriculture.

596
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,040
Yeah.

597
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,360
You don't want to feed yourself from that.

598
00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:01,960
So if you're going in and once again, this is this is just these are just hints.

599
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,200
And so I'm just giving you guys hints on why I wouldn't necessarily say that they go and

600
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,600
they destroy everyone.

601
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,600
Yeah.

602
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,800
One of the reasons you would leave fruit producing trees is because there's still going to be

603
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,320
a population that needs it to eat.

604
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,320
Yeah.

605
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,700
Like maybe not a warrior population, but there is going to be a population.

606
00:25:20,700 --> 00:25:22,760
So there's there's a lot of hints going on here.

607
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,520
I just want to lay that for you to consider when we're talking about this, this literature.

608
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,520
Yeah.

609
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,520
Okay.

610
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,520
You do not have to agree with me.

611
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,480
This is one where I'm totally fine with you completely disagreeing with me, but it is

612
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,320
something that I have been more convinced on.

613
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,480
The more I look into ancient literature, writing styles and what was going on in history in

614
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,600
this area, it does not conflict with a biblical account because this is the way things would

615
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,840
have been written.

616
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,240
Yeah.

617
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:53,760
So then they go into chapter 21 and we have our first murder mystery.

618
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,720
It's a good old episode procedural here.

619
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,720
It's titled as unsolved murder.

620
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,880
Now the customs of this area are foreign to us, but the implication is this of this section.

621
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,240
It says that if somebody was murdered, you need to take care of them.

622
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,380
You need to bring out the elders, do the atonement offerings, bless, lift up to God.

623
00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:16,080
You are responsible to the person, even if you're not the one that murdered them.

624
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,080
Yes.

625
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,080
This is a little bit strange.

626
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,080
I want to go off on a little bit of a tangent here.

627
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,080
Is that cool?

628
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,080
All right.

629
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,840
So in verses 10 through 14, it talks about if you want to marry a woman who is a captive

630
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,840
or not, not Israelite.

631
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,540
The other thing I want to say is that there's a lot of terrible things that are happening

632
00:26:30,540 --> 00:26:35,520
in this area, including the fact that the priest is a Christian and he's a Christian

633
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,520
and he's a Christian.

634
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,520
The priest is a Christian.

635
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,520
So it's not a Christian.

636
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,520
It's a Christian, and in this case, it's a Muslim.

637
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,520
This is a Christian priest.

638
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,520
So it's a Christian priest.

639
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,520
It's a Christian priest.

640
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,520
It's a Christian priest.

641
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,520
He was a Christian priest.

642
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,520
He was a Christian priest.

643
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,640
captive or not Israel and non-israelite. Yeah, and

644
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,320
There's a procedure that you have to go through they have to shave their head

645
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,500
They got to go into mourning for a month and then you're able to take them into your family and they're like part of the country

646
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:02,320
Mm-hmm, and you're like Ben. Why do you care about that? Well, I want to remind you about a little book called Ezra. Mm-hmm

647
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:09,320
Ezra and it's in chapter 10 after the Israelites have gone into captivity and now they have come back out of Babylon

648
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,520
So this is towards the end of the story before Jesus

649
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:19,880
There's a guy by the name of Ezra who is helping them rebuild and he finds the book of the law and he reads it in their

650
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,000
Presence like he stands and they read the read read all of the book of the law

651
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:31,280
In that section they realize that they weren't supposed to intermarry with the people around them. Mm-hmm. And so

652
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,680
the men of Israel

653
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,120
Send their wives and their children away in their zeal to follow the law

654
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:42,200
That is a very good example of reading the law and not understanding the heart of the law

655
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,080
Mm-hmm, because what they've now done is they've created

656
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,000
widows

657
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,520
orphans

658
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,200
They they've given them nothing and sent them away

659
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,840
Mm-hmm, and in their pursuit of of doing the right thing for God

660
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:02,320
Following the law. They've actually missed the greater portion of the law, which is to love your neighbor as yourself. Mm-hmm

661
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:07,440
Now I was reading this through with my wife and my wife is brilliant sometimes in her in her observations

662
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,200
So we're reading through Ezra together and she says

663
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,200
But isn't there a prescription for this in Torah?

664
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:20,160
I was like, is there like cuz I I didn't remember this from Deuteronomy 21 and so we go there and sure enough

665
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,800
There is mm-hmm. So, you know what?

666
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,760
They could have done is asked all their wives to shave their head

667
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,760
Go into mourning for a month and then everybody would have been legitimate. Yeah

668
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:35,480
And that would have been honoring to God. Mm-hmm, but instead they acted with zeal

669
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,720
But not in the heart of God

670
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:44,400
Mm-hmm. Now I want to I want to point out that God doesn't necessarily condemn them for this

671
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,360
Because there is there is a zeal and the heart is in the right place

672
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:54,400
But there is now going to be generational hurt in that area and probably more conflict in Israel

673
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,120
Then there should be because you're getting thousands of families being torn apart

674
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:05,880
Yeah in pursuit of God. Yeah, which is not just not the heart of God. No, I

675
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,120
Think there is a practical application of

676
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,880
Having zeal where you're willing to push the worldly things aside

677
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,360
Is that right? There is that practical application of having that zeal where you're like

678
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,960
I'm not gonna keep up with the Joneses or I'm not gonna keep up with the

679
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,720
Zeal where you're like, I'm not gonna keep up with the Joneses or I'm not going to

680
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,040
Buy into this thing that the world offers whatever that might be

681
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:35,120
I'm being very vague because everybody's situation is a little different but there is also the very practical of like hey

682
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,040
God is a god who is for the widow an orphan where there's actually prescriptions for

683
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,760
What do you do for welcoming the foreigner in?

684
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:50,240
And this would actually be doing the opposite of that prescription. Yeah, that's listed that's listed there

685
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:56,960
And it's actually one of the reasons why James in his book New Testament actually corrects that at the end of James 1 don't neglect

686
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,600
The widows an orphan and reason I bring that up is the thing

687
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,200
I love is when people are like and we're I think we're gonna do a miniseries on James at some point

688
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:09,080
Yeah, probably in season 2. Oh, yeah, but the thing reason I love that is because a lot of times people are like James is an awesome

689
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,560
Book, did you know James is primarily written to Jewish people and there's like 95% quotes from Torah

690
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,960
I knew that but a lot of people don't yeah, like that's it's

691
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:24,520
James wrote to the 12 tribes of Israel scattered amongst the nations and he primarily quoted to and and depending on who you have scribe

692
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:30,600
Authorship to it would make total sense for him to write that to the Jewish people. Yes to the Jewish followers of Jesus

693
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,960
It's one of those things

694
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,200
Okay

695
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,740
So like obviously in the New Testament Paul addresses it. Mm-hmm because he has to because people start missing it

696
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,960
It's like what if you come to faith in your and your spouse doesn't believe

697
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,760
Well, Paul has to address it too because he's he's primarily writing to Gentile context

698
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,380
yeah, like in majority of his writing and that was a very that was a very common thing where they

699
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:57,360
Were people from their community are bringing people to Jesus and one person's coming to Jesus

700
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,600
And so what Paul actually says is if your unbelieving spouse wants to stay with you

701
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,920
You stay with them. Mm-hmm, and if they want to leave you don't hold them back. Mm-hmm

702
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,760
That is that is a very graceful way to do that because you're like, hey

703
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,800
I'm gonna follow Jesus if you want to stay you can stay but I'm not changing

704
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,080
Mm-hmm, and I'm still gonna love you. I'm gonna take care of you

705
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:22,600
But can you imagine that same context if somebody comes to Christ and their wife or their spouse doesn't I'm just gonna say spouse because it's

706
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,340
Not wife exclusive. Yeah, their spouse doesn't and they're like, well

707
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,960
I'm a Christian now so I can't be unequally yoked. So I'm just going to divorce you

708
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,440
Do you understand how?

709
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,640
In observance of the unequally yoked you're actually betraying something that God is actually calling you to be

710
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,720
You need to actually be able to interpret Torah

711
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,040
Correctly, you need to actually be able to see how these things work

712
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,960
Which is why it's very important that we understand that there are

713
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,080
weightier portions to the law than others

714
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,880
Now some of you heard me just say that and you heard me say that some parts of the law are unimportant

715
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,560
No, that is not what I said. They're all very important

716
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,720
But when they are in conflict you default to the weightier, which is why Jesus says

717
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,560
That the two greatest commands are love love the Lord your God with all your heart soul mind and strength

718
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:15,880
This is the number one if you're gonna default to anything. It's always that yeah, and the second is love your neighbor as yourself

719
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,520
Everything that we interpret through Torah and how we obey God has to go through that lens if we follow Jesus

720
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Just draw a parallel to like the legal system in the US a little bit like there are greater

721
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,100
Consequences for breaking some laws than there are for others. Yes

722
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,840
A few months ago. I got a parking ticket

723
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:42,240
Okay, shameful. I went and paid my parking ticket, you know that happened. Okay now if I

724
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,020
Went and committed tax fraud

725
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,160
There's more significant consequences. There's more significant consequences

726
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:49,840
Yeah, exactly

727
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,280
the next thing they talk about is the rights of the firstborn and one of the reasons I wanted to point this out is if

728
00:32:54,440 --> 00:33:00,520
You have in this time you might have multiple wives or multiple spouses and if you have kids from multiple

729
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,840
Women you can't choose the kid that you like the most and make them your firstborn

730
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,840
Which the reason I point this out and I think it's really funny that Moses points us out. That's exactly what Jacob did

731
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:17,840
Mm-hmm, like who's this firstborn technically Ruben and he's like no, I want Joseph to be my firstborn which is why he got the second

732
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,600
coat. Mm-hmm

733
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:26,480
Right. You have that later with Ephraim and Manasseh the kids of Joseph that they both become tribes in Israel

734
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,600
Mm-hmm. They actually take the place of Joseph. You might want once again say that they get a double portion

735
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,000
Yeah, so Moses actually speaks into that and by the way, I don't I'm not saying that

736
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,080
I think that Moses is speaking against Ephraim and Manasseh

737
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,040
I'm thinking what he's saying is you need to make sure that your firstborn is your firstborn

738
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:48,280
Mm-hmm, and that you're treating them correctly. Yeah, you're not just you're not favor favoring specific children

739
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,320
Over over the ones who are actually given the responsibility by God. Yeah. Oh, hey

740
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,800
This next section is one of my favorites the rebellious son, right?

741
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,480
How many times have you heard the rebellious son like quoted growing up? Oh a few a few

742
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,000
So the the essentially the rebellious son, so we're not gonna get all into this

743
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,480
But I'm gonna just give some high-level things that I think are helpful

744
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:16,440
It's not just a rebellious son. This is somebody who is defiantly against everything that you have going. Mm-hmm

745
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,440
They are persistently

746
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,700
Avoiding correction and trying to do their own thing. Mm-hmm. This is not just some

747
00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:27,040
Oh, I didn't listen to dad today. Well, you're a rebellious son and we're gonna take you out in Stonia. Mm-hmm

748
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,360
No, this is this is somebody you would essentially put them as public enemy number one

749
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,880
Mm-hmm, like they they are a trouble in the community. Yeah, okay. So first off

750
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,920
secondly in all of Jewish history, I

751
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,900
Think they found one recording of it ever happening. Mm-hmm

752
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:47,100
You know, that's it's even debatable about whether or not that actually happened

753
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:50,800
Yeah, but only one time of this actually being enforced. Mm-hmm. Okay

754
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,000
So what is the purpose of this if it's not to be enforced?

755
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,640
The purpose is that you're supposed to live in harmony with the people around you

756
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,440
Mm-hmm, and that you don't just let your kids get away scot-free

757
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,320
You actually hold them accountable and teach them to obey mm-hmm different time period different language

758
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,960
If you think about especially surrounding cultures and depending on how much power you had a community the kids could get away with murder

759
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,680
Yeah, literally. Mm-hmm. It's not gonna be the case. Mm-hmm

760
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,560
I mean if only there was something relevant in America with powerful people and their kids getting away with murder, huh?

761
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:28,320
Think that's a different podcast. That's probably different podcast, but there is there is a there

762
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,800
I mean we understand that mentality. Yeah. No, you actually need to hold the kids accountable

763
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,920
Uh-huh parents you have a responsibility to raise your kids in a way that's right

764
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,640
Yeah, or you have a responsibility to step in and correct it. Mm-hmm

765
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,280
You have a profound responsibility that God will bless you in but you it's still your responsibility. Yes

766
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,280
So in verses 22 and 23

767
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,280
They talk about how you're not supposed to leave somebody on a pole overnight and you're actually supposed to go and bury them. Mm-hmm

768
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,280
Now immediately, what do you think of Jesus Jesus?

769
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:01,280
It there's not an accident like they're definitely referencing that when they talk about the Jews like bringing them down now

770
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,280
I fight it super interesting. You're talking about them bribing officials and witnesses and all things like like

771
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,280
the ruling council is very

772
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,280
Particular about what laws they're persistent about following and which ones they're not. Mm-hmm

773
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,840
Oh, well, we can't leave them up on a pole

774
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,120
But we can bribe an official right

775
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,680
Right sometimes sometime we'll go through the crucifixion and what maybe we'll do a miniseries where we're talking

776
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:33,880
Yeah crucifixion because it's just such a profound. It's such a profound event. Yeah that radically changes everything

777
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:39,400
Mm-hmm, but there there is just some stuff going on there that you're like, I don't understand you ruling council

778
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,040
You're very strange. Yeah the there's I think they struggle

779
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,120
Maybe with trying to follow God but also trying to accomplish their own agenda

780
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:51,640
Well this crucifixion if you look at it from the Pharisees perspective and whether or not they're following the laws

781
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:57,680
It's it's pretty comical. Yeah one level where it's like, oh you're you're just very selective

782
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:04,080
About what law you want? Yeah to fit your need in this moment. Yeah, and well, we'll talk about that

783
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,160
Yeah, alright, so let's go into chapter 22 and there's gonna be a lot of various laws here

784
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,720
So Spencer and I are gonna kind of just fire back and forth on these

785
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:17,360
The first one is regarding other people's stuff living a peace with other people if their ox goes straying don't ignore it

786
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:17,880
Yeah

787
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,380
If you see somebody like like they're in trouble help them

788
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,020
Mm-hmm

789
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:25,600
If they live far away take their stuff home until they can come get it and then give it to them

790
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,360
Same with other stuff like they're the donkey if you see it fall into a pit if they alone you their cloak

791
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,800
All those type of things by the way, Jesus actually is gonna reference that when he's talking about the Sabbath. Yeah with people

792
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,760
If you see it in a pit help them out like don't just leave their their stuff in a pit

793
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,760
Like you actually got a lot of your neighbors yourself, right? Yeah

794
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,900
There's also a rule in here is talking about

795
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,720
Representing yourself as you were made and then they're gonna talk about women and men's clothing and men and women's clothing

796
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,440
It would be really easy for us to get into a conversation about sexual fluidity and all those kind of things

797
00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:00,360
The big thing that's going on here is be who you're made to be. Yes be who God has called you to be

798
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,280
We can have a broader conversation about those those topics at another time

799
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,400
But I don't want to get bogged down into here because I think people take this and they use it to be people over the head

800
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,480
And that's not necessarily what they're talking about with the Jewish people at this point. Yeah, there is some application

801
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,560
But it's not we shouldn't be using it to beat up other people if you guys have questions on that

802
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:26,000
Feel free to email us. Yeah on tactile. That's fine. But just know that that's not what we're talking about today, correct? Yeah

803
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,800
You can take eggs but not the bird so you can live long on the land

804
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:36,840
So I mean like what's referring to here is like longevity, right? Like if you go kill the bird that's laying eggs

805
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,320
Yeah, guess what you have any more eggs you have a meal for a day. Yeah

806
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,480
But that's it. Yeah, how effective would it be with all your chickens to just go butcher all your chickens?

807
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,080
I mean I added one level that'd be very effective for you kids are driving you crazy

808
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,440
But it wouldn't actually be effective for long-term egg production. No, it wouldn't be effective for that

809
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,800
I mean we've got food for a while because we got a lot of chickens

810
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:03,920
We got my my wife went overboard with chickens. Yeah, and then after that some friends of ours also had some chickens that they were like

811
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,200
Oh, it's Spencer want more chickens. I said, yes he does

812
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:13,080
Anyways, yeah, but if you kill the chicken, yeah, you have a meal for a day, but then your eggs

813
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,880
Yeah gone like you lose the longevity of that food source

814
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,520
Exactly like these are practically practical

815
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,400
Also, what comes up says put railings on your on your dwelling so that if people are there they don't fall off and hurt themselves

816
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,680
Mm-hmm. Otherwise, you're gonna be guilty for negligence

817
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,040
Mm-hmm. I'm glad to know that there's a building code is actually taken from the Bible

818
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,960
Yeah, the next one is don't mix seeds when planting now in a modern context

819
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,040
You can kind of create your garden how you want to well

820
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,640
Yeah, we have like these fancy tools where we can like line up your rows and all these different things

821
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:47,840
But I mean like they were just throwing seed and so like if you try to throw strawberry bushes with tomato bushes

822
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,560
I'm just throwing them out there like one of those gonna string a lot the other

823
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,280
Yeah, and I'm gonna end up with nothing

824
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:52,560
Yeah

825
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,840
And there are some like there are some bushes that they do grow well together like you see that in the natural environment

826
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:03,880
Like blueberries huckleberries stuff like that. We live in Alaska. That's nice easy to pick on like they grow well together

827
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:09,440
Want to be interesting? It'll be interesting in the Hebrew if mixed seed means like seeds of different species

828
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:15,480
Yeah of fruit so of different regions that something to be mindful of when we lived in Washington for a while

829
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,840
There's this plant called scotch broom. Uh-huh. That was everywhere

830
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:24,600
They it was an invasive plant, but it just took over right like if there was a sunny spot

831
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,320
It would just take over it would strangle out all the other plant

832
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,680
It would it could actually like wreck ecosystems and like all sorts of stuff

833
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:38,440
So if you like I'm least at the place we worked at there's about 400 acres and every year

834
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,720
We had to spend a couple weeks going through and just pulling out the scotch broom

835
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,440
Every year some of it will come back and I'll get less and less and less

836
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,840
But we had we had to take care of getting that invasive species out

837
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:57,240
So when you're talking mixing seeds you are to also talking about the people who are coming from Egypt and they're going up to

838
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:03,440
Israel or where we know as modern-day Israel and as much as those climates are similar

839
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,240
They are different as well. Absolutely. And so when you talk about mixing seeds

840
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:11,520
Like what you could do is but if you bring your seed from your old life into your new life

841
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,400
It actually causes damage. Hmm, that'll that'll preach all day. Yeah

842
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,120
Don't plow with an ox and a donkey. That's another one

843
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,120
I I don't there's probably somebody who knows why you shouldn't do that

844
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,080
My assumption is that they don't get along. Mm-hmm that you're you're actually gonna struggle with both animals

845
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:30,760
If you put them together, but somebody who has ops and donkey, feel free to email us and tell us exactly why I'm sure

846
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,120
There's a good reason. Well, there's actually a strength difference to I mean equally yolks

847
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,840
Yeah, one's one stronger than the other. Sure. Then you'll have one pulling way harder than the other

848
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,720
Yeah, so if anybody knows a reason beyond those email us because we'd love to hear. Mm-hmm

849
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:45,600
Don't wear blended fabrics right now

850
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,480
I think this is interesting because a lot of people are well, why wouldn't you go your bonded fabrics?

851
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,880
So in this context is so that you can be set apart, right?

852
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,480
Like cuz you're not supposed to be mixed. You're not supposed to enter mix

853
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,880
Mm-hmm, like a lot of those are practical reminders

854
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,160
Like the way that you live is a is a testament to who you're supposed to be. Could you imagine us today?

855
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,320
Trying to go clothes shopping and finding clothes that are just 100% one material

856
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:14,560
Yeah, have a conversation with Marty about that sometime. Okay Marty Solomon like him and his wife when they

857
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,840
Decided to embrace the Jewish portion of his life because he's he's genetically Jewish

858
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,040
Mm-hmm, right like they started to try to observe Torah. However, they could you know those things?

859
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,040
He said finding clothes is the hardest. Yeah, so hard

860
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:33,000
Yeah, you know the next one is to put tassels on your robe now that actually shows up earlier in the text

861
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,320
They talk about putting tassels on the robe. It is the conifote over your zitsi oat

862
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,600
It's on the court castles on the on the corner of your of your robe of your outer robe

863
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,040
This is important because it's also called the wing

864
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:44,540
Yeah

865
00:42:44,540 --> 00:42:48,920
and in the New Testament Jesus is actually going to be walking through the city and a

866
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:54,160
Woman with an issue of blood is going to reach out and touch the conifote of his zitsi oat. Mm-hmm

867
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,160
She's gonna touch the tassels of his robe

868
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,720
Because in the Bible it says that God has healing in his wings

869
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:05,720
She knows her text that she's communicating with the text. She knows that she touches this portion

870
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:09,240
Yeah, she'll find healing because of who Jesus is and what he represents

871
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:12,920
Yeah, just a fun little aside into the text for you. Yeah

872
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:19,880
Alright, so then the next one is they're they're talking about marriage violations. So this section by the way is very difficult

873
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,680
There's a couple of sections in here where they're trying to talk about marriage and some different things that are very difficult

874
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,680
And I want to just remind you once again

875
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:33,720
Do not compare this to modern life also don't assume that everything that is being said is the right thing to do

876
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:39,000
But it is moving the needle forward in what's going on. Yeah, okay, so started off

877
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:46,360
Right. Yep. So if a man marries a woman, yep sleeps with her. Yep the sides and nah man and then

878
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,040
Claims she wasn't a virgin the parents are to produce the bloody cloth

879
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,920
Okay, so this I need to add a little bit of context to because this is a little confusing. Uh-huh

880
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,600
So Jewish wedding summer you get married and then you immediately go to the betrothal chamber

881
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,320
Uh-huh, and that's where you consummate the wedding marriage

882
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:11,320
And then you take the bloody cloth because if the person has never had relations before they're going to bleed

883
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,200
And you actually give the bloody cloth to the best man who takes it to the family

884
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:21,640
And it becomes the the testament that the father of the mother of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son

885
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,280
That the father and mother gave a virgin to be married and that seems very strange in our culture

886
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,560
And it would be very strange in our culture. Yeah, it's just it's a very different culture

887
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,360
Now why is it really important that you understand that because paul's going to talk about in the new testament

888
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:39,560
He's going to say that you were not able to produce a bloody cloth

889
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,480
Mm-hmm

890
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,200
So jesus produced it on your behalf. Yeah

891
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,680
Now we're gonna be like bros

892
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:53,560
No, this is actually a beautiful piece of imagery that paul weaves together the truth of the scriptures and and something that they're very familiar with

893
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,640
And like once again talking about us being the bride of christ as the bride of christ

894
00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:03,160
We could never produce a bloody cloth and it goes back to what you were saying where your word was everything

895
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:03,640
Yeah

896
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:09,640
Like if the parents actually gave up their daughter for marriage and she was a virgin and then the man comes back says no

897
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:14,040
She wasn't they would provide this as evidence. Yeah, and if they couldn't

898
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,760
Guess who got in trouble the father the father because it was the father's word. Yeah

899
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:25,400
That that clarified this now that brings a whole new connotation to make sure your parents know what you're up to

900
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:31,960
Because can you imagine if you are a woman growing up in that time and you lie about your promiscuity?

901
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,760
And now your lie actually cost your father his life because he vouches for you. Yeah

902
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,320
Yeah, that is by the way, that's not to put the onus on women. I'm just talking about this as an example. Yeah, yeah

903
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,840
You'd rather me 2222. Okay, it's the new living translation

904
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:51,240
If a man is discovered committing adultery both he and the woman must die

905
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,680
And this way he will purge israel of such evil

906
00:45:55,240 --> 00:46:00,600
I feel like i've heard a story about a man and a woman caught in adultery and yet the man seems nowhere to be found

907
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,120
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm

908
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:07,560
And if I remember correctly jesus was there and he was drawing a beautiful picture in the sand

909
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,560
Yeah, he was drawing some things in the dirt. Yeah

910
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:15,240
He was drawing some things in the dirt. Yeah. Yeah, once again this point of like we're okay grabbing the officials

911
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:20,200
But we're also you know, we're gonna make sure hey, we're gonna try to catch you with uh with a law from torah

912
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,320
but we're gonna be going to hold the woman accountable actually heard a

913
00:46:24,020 --> 00:46:29,320
Commentary on time on this where the guy was like it's actually where he's like there's a really good argument

914
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:33,640
That the man who was caught was actually a religious leader

915
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,600
And didn't bring himself forward

916
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,960
Yeah for the sake of maintaining his life. It's entirely possible. It's entirely possible. That is that is speculation

917
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,160
Of course it is speculative

918
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:49,400
But by the fact that he's not there means it's somebody that the Pharisees or the ruling council didn't want thrown under the bus

919
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,680
Yeah, so we're not going to get into a bunch of these other ones these retire a lot of context because it talks about

920
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:01,560
Unpermissible sexual activity. Okay, it requires a nuanced conversation and contextual analysis

921
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:02,120
Yeah

922
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,720
But I want to let you like point out that many of these laws hold the aggressor accountable

923
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:11,960
Where they would not have been before yeah, it's about adding more equity to a bad situation, right?

924
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,400
This is not to say that the things that happened are acceptable. Right?

925
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,120
But it's about moving forward with the higher levels of equity and justice for women

926
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:27,280
Yeah, and we're so we're gonna be jumping into 23 through 25. These are great chapters for you to go read go study

927
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:33,880
Yeah, they're awesome. We we're just going to be bullet pointing through these real quick. Yeah. Yeah

928
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,280
So starting off here, it talks about the assembly of the Lord and some people are not allowed to be in there

929
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,200
So if you are emasculated, which means you either have bruised manhood or no manhood

930
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,080
Why aren't you allowed to be in well, you're supposed to bear the sign of the covenant

931
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,920
Forbidden if you're part of a forbidden marriage why because you're supposed to be set apart

932
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,920
Now once again stop following hard and fast rules

933
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,760
This is meant to really instruct them on the way that they're supposed to be no ammonite or moabite

934
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,800
Because they had no generosity and they entice the prophet Balaam to to curse them

935
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,560
Then it goes on to some really practical ones

936
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,720
I want to talk about like when they go camping if you go camping dig a latrine outside of the camp

937
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,640
Don't poop in your camps. Yeah

938
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,040
We've talked about like, you know sin like pooping in your house

939
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:20,640
Not great if a slave runs away and seeks refuge with you do not send them back to their master

940
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,200
You actually need to take them in by the way

941
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:29,840
That's gonna be really and really good to understand when you take into account Paul writing his letter to Philemon. Mm-hmm

942
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:37,120
Yeah, so the next one on the camping regulations is one that we should all be all be wary about don't become a prostitute

943
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,000
Yeah, I don't know if that's necessarily connected to the camping but it's definitely you shouldn't be a prostitute

944
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,520
Yeah, yeah, don't become a prostitute and don't bring

945
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,000
Prostitution money into the house of God. So don't go engage in behavior

946
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:55,360
You're not supposed to be in and then try to bring that to bless the house of God. Yeah, God definitely doesn't want that money

947
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:01,360
Yeah, I said that because then put the don't be a prostitute in our notes under the campaign section. You're welcome

948
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,480
And so I was like, yeah, we're gonna make we're gonna hook fun at that. Don't charge your fellow Israelite interest

949
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,920
It's okay to charge a foreigner once again, but like you're not supposed if you're lending to people that you know

950
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,800
Yeah, don't charge them interest. Yeah

951
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:18,000
Also, I want to point out that even if you're charging the foreigner interest previous law where it says that there need not be any poor

952
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,120
Among you still applies. So you can't charge them interest so that makes them poor

953
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:27,480
Yeah, next one is don't make promises to God that you don't plan to keep. Yeah, he didn't force you to do it

954
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,240
No, so if you're gonna make it do it

955
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:34,260
Yeah, and don't put off doing it and this goes this goes again ties back to Jesus when he's saying hey

956
00:49:34,260 --> 00:49:39,480
Let your yes be yes me and they'll be no. Mm-hmm. All right now in our conversations with God our relationship

957
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:44,940
Hopefully with God is a little different than our relationship with some of the people around us. Like let's beat let's clarify that but still

958
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,080
Yes, be yes and they'll be no

959
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:52,880
The next two are about food and and I basically boil them down to this if you're at somebody's house

960
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,720
It's okay to eat stuff out of their fridge, but maybe don't go shopping in their fridge

961
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:02,480
Uh-huh. You know, like one of them is you're actually sharing the produce production of their field

962
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,440
And the other one is you're actually taking for yourself from their game

963
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,920
So my mom laughs at me every time I come and visit because it is such a help

964
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,120
No, it's like I live in a different state and I'll fly down

965
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,440
I'll go see my mom and then first thing I do is I walk in I'm like, hey mom

966
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,240
And then I go to the fridge and I open it and she's like, what are you doing?

967
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:25,760
And I'm like, this is just such an ingrained habit for my 20s. Yeah that like

968
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,640
It's it's just kicks it. Yeah, it's just such an ingrained habit. I'm like, I'm just gonna go and say hi

969
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,960
I'm gonna go open the fridge see what's there and it's like usually I'm not hungry. I'm just like, okay

970
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:36,600
Yeah

971
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,700
So the next piece and it starts in chapter 24

972
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:44,480
It's gonna talk about divorce and I just want to specify once again that it's a lot more complicated than churches make it

973
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:51,120
Yeah that that there is provisions but the provisions are really meant to keep peace in the in the land and

974
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,440
Jesus says it's because of your hard heart that you were even given a writ of divorce

975
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,820
Mm-hmm. However, this section of 24

976
00:50:56,820 --> 00:51:01,480
I actually think it's helpful if you're going to read that before you read the conversation with a Samaritan woman at the well

977
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,520
Yes, this is where I was talking about the recently married people are not supposed to be sent to war

978
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,080
He also says in this section. He says don't take the millstones

979
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,920
So the way that somebody actually produces their wealth like they're they're working utensils

980
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,580
Don't use that as a security against their debt. Mm-hmm. If you are a delivery person, I should not take your car

981
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,000
Insecurity against your debt. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you know what I mean?

982
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,560
Like cuz that's how you're actually going to make your living and actually pay me

983
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:27,400
Like I'm actually literally make it impossible for you to do that

984
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:33,680
Which is really interesting when you say this because there's actually parables where Jesus was like, oh this person owed money

985
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:39,600
So he was thrown in prison telling could pay. Yeah, and then we read that and be like, oh well the that's how God treats

986
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,240
People who owe him it's like no Jesus was actually drawing picture here

987
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:47,680
I'm like, how is that person going to pay if he's in prison? Yeah

988
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,400
Which leads us to Jesus paying the price for us. Yeah

989
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,600
Yeah

990
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,960
Somebody coming in and paying the demise on their behalf. Mm-hmm

991
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,360
Yeah, we're gonna talk about the parable at some point a lot of times in the parables

992
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:06,200
We try to make them all allegorical with and we miss the context of what God is talking about what Jesus talking about

993
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,360
So this is a good one

994
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:09,480
If you get skin diseases

995
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:15,320
Make sure that you follow the letter the law to the letter right because you don't want skin diseases to spread everywhere

996
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,240
They spread very easily in a post-covid society

997
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:20,640
We should understand that if you're sick, you need to follow the letters of the law

998
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,280
Versus a 10 to 13 they reference like this whole thing with a cloak that if you have a cloak and somebody is poor

999
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,600
You need to take it back to them by night

1000
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,360
This is something that Jesus references when he's talking about justice when he's talking about turning the other cheek

1001
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,720
Yeah, sometimes we'll talk about turning the other cheek, but it does not mean what you necessarily think it means

1002
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:39,800
It actually means standing up to oppression and injustice. Mm-hmm

1003
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,840
Pay people on time. That's a good role. Yeah, or you're not gonna have employees

1004
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:51,400
Don't deprive those people outside of justice the foreigners remember that you were outsiders once

1005
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:56,420
You know leave the uncut corners of your field for the poor and that's actually gonna come up in the book of Ruth

1006
00:52:56,420 --> 00:52:58,420
Yeah

1007
00:52:58,460 --> 00:53:02,700
So chapter 25 if somebody's going to be punished you can't do more than 40 lashes

1008
00:53:02,900 --> 00:53:04,980
Which I mean sounds like a lot to me. Mm-hmm

1009
00:53:04,980 --> 00:53:10,280
But you can't do more than 40 lashes. Otherwise, you are going to degrade them in the sight of the people around them

1010
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:18,660
Yeah, so your punishment when you're in when you're restoring justice should never degrade the individual in the sights of the people. Yeah

1011
00:53:19,460 --> 00:53:21,900
That's a really important thing for us to hear

1012
00:53:22,420 --> 00:53:24,300
Yeah, another thing was proper to the book of Ruth

1013
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:29,620
It talks about continuing the line if your brother dies that you're actually to take your brother's wife and actually sire a child for

1014
00:53:29,620 --> 00:53:35,900
And it's gonna be your brother's line. That's continued. Now we are go. Oh, that's gross. Well, it's all tracked through paternal lines

1015
00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:39,820
So what you're actually doing is making sure your brother's line doesn't go nowhere

1016
00:53:40,020 --> 00:53:45,700
Yeah, it's really important and it's actually a very loving thing that you can do for the family and for the wife. Mm-hmm

1017
00:53:46,220 --> 00:53:51,700
Also, you're not supposed to have different weights dishonest weights dishonest scales. We've talked about that before right?

1018
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:56,460
You're you should not be a sneaky mischievous individual. I mean to be fair

1019
00:53:56,460 --> 00:54:00,120
I don't mind a dishonest scale if it's after like a Christmas meal

1020
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,120
I don't think that's what he's talking about

1021
00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:07,940
You know and it's and like the bigger thing here is you shouldn't be underhanded. You shouldn't be sneaky

1022
00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:11,420
You know think about back to war you're supposed to go and give them off for a piece first

1023
00:54:11,420 --> 00:54:16,900
Yeah, you're not gonna sneak attack them. Yeah, like you need to be a straightforward honest person. Mm-hmm

1024
00:54:16,900 --> 00:54:19,160
This is who God is. This is who you're supposed to be

1025
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:25,780
So these these are a bunch of laws that we run into in in Deuteronomy 19 through 25 like our last couple weeks

1026
00:54:25,780 --> 00:54:32,700
We've seen that you're supposed to make sure that the judges are stout that they're doing their job and it's supposed to you're supposed to

1027
00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:36,500
Tie then it's gonna create you to be a more generous person. In fact next week when we have Caleb

1028
00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:38,020
We're gonna talk about the tide more

1029
00:54:38,020 --> 00:54:43,860
They are supposed to create inside of you to be the generous kind of person and a generous kind of person has these attributes

1030
00:54:43,860 --> 00:54:48,260
Yeah, they don't have dishonest scales. Yeah, they are promoting equity with people

1031
00:54:48,260 --> 00:54:53,300
They're not just throwing women to the side. They are not commodities. They're people people made in the image of God

1032
00:54:53,300 --> 00:54:58,460
They're our partners. Yeah, and while it's not necessarily everything that we'd want it to be in a modern society

1033
00:54:59,220 --> 00:55:05,780
Yeah, it is God completely radically changing the world around them. Yeah, which he is still

1034
00:55:06,580 --> 00:55:08,180
doing mm-hmm

1035
00:55:08,180 --> 00:55:09,380
Amen

1036
00:55:09,380 --> 00:55:13,340
God actually wants us to be different than we are today tomorrow. Mm-hmm

1037
00:55:13,340 --> 00:55:18,220
That we are conforming to the image of his son. He wants us to be better. He wants us to be better

1038
00:55:18,220 --> 00:55:22,540
He wants us he he wants our old life to fade and our new life to gain traction

1039
00:55:22,540 --> 00:55:26,940
Yeah, that can be a process. I've met some people where it's like that

1040
00:55:26,940 --> 00:55:31,180
Yeah, like I know I know some people where it's like the Lord got a hold of their life

1041
00:55:31,180 --> 00:55:38,140
They had like drug addicted alcohol addicted and they had no desire for that ever again moving forward like straight up healing

1042
00:55:38,140 --> 00:55:41,660
I've met other people where it's like they came to Jesus and they're like, I still

1043
00:55:41,660 --> 00:55:43,660
struggle

1044
00:55:43,660 --> 00:55:49,500
And and I've and I've heard people be like, well, it's a matter of faith and I'm like or it's a matter of the journey

1045
00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:55,500
Yeah, I would and I would push back against that because one of the things that Moses says that from God

1046
00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:59,180
As he says you're gonna go into the land and you're not gonna take it all immediately

1047
00:55:59,180 --> 00:56:04,540
Yeah, because otherwise the the Satan's will rise up and they will they'll destroy you. Yeah

1048
00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:09,340
It's not for God's benefit that is happening slowly through your life

1049
00:56:09,340 --> 00:56:12,540
It's for yours and it's not for us to determine

1050
00:56:13,020 --> 00:56:18,540
What journey the Lord has put that person on our jobs to walk alongside them. I love that

1051
00:56:19,420 --> 00:56:22,860
With that we're gonna close the episode there because we've been talking far too long

1052
00:56:23,420 --> 00:56:28,620
And I covered a lot of ground. Yeah covered a lot of ground next week. We're gonna have Caleb Fox with us

1053
00:56:28,620 --> 00:56:30,940
We'll be moving into the next session of Deuteronomy

1054
00:56:30,940 --> 00:56:35,100
And then I think you'll be with us through the following week where we're actually going to close out the book of Deuteronomy

1055
00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:39,660
So if you have any questions to put into our Q&A, this would be the time to send them

1056
00:56:40,380 --> 00:56:44,700
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1057
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:50,540
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1058
00:56:51,340 --> 00:56:56,860
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1059
00:56:56,860 --> 00:57:01,500
If you just do not value your eyesight. Mm-hmm. Yep. All right until next time. Bye

1060
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:05,660
That's a wrap for today's episode. We want to extend a heartfelt

1061
00:57:05,660 --> 00:57:09,500
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1062
00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:11,900
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1063
00:57:12,460 --> 00:57:18,060
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1064
00:57:18,620 --> 00:57:23,500
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1065
00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:25,980
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1066
00:57:26,540 --> 00:57:29,500
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00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:34,940
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1068
00:57:35,420 --> 00:57:42,060
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1069
00:57:42,540 --> 00:57:45,260
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1070
00:57:45,820 --> 00:57:47,820
Wow, this is all stupid

1071
00:57:48,940 --> 00:57:50,940
Let me let me just do everything again

1072
00:57:51,980 --> 00:57:54,460
Everything again bed just cut all this out

1073
00:57:54,460 --> 00:57:59,420
What happens within the book of Samson i'm not saying the book of Samson. Wow judges

1074
00:57:59,740 --> 00:58:04,300
This is going to be quite the editing one of the reasons that you would leave fruit producing food or

1075
00:58:05,660 --> 00:58:07,340
from the tribe of

1076
00:58:07,340 --> 00:58:09,340
Joseph

1077
00:58:10,220 --> 00:58:15,900
Tribe of Joseph's not I know it tribe of those is not a thing. Sorry. Let me say that our determination to determine

1078
00:58:15,900 --> 00:58:21,920
And well, I mean I mean those are words that was I was gonna say, you know