1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,080 Welcome to the Love and Context podcast, engaging in unscripted conversations with your hosts, 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,320 Ben and Spencer. 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,420 Whether you're tuning in from your car, your office, your home, or anywhere in between, 4 00:00:11,420 --> 00:00:15,140 we are so happy to have you join us today. 5 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:21,040 Our mission is simple, to explore the Bible through a powerful lens of love. 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:26,200 Together we'll uncover fresh insights and gain deeper understandings of how we can love 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,560 God and love the people in our everyday lives. 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,840 So buckle up and join us on this spiritual journey as we discover timeless wisdom that 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,680 is just as relevant today as it was thousands of years ago. 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,520 Without further ado, let's dive right in. 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,880 Welcome to Love and Context podcast. 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:45,880 I'm Ben. 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,920 I'm Spencer. 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,620 And we're here talking to you. 15 00:00:48,620 --> 00:00:52,160 And if you're looking at us, once again, I apologized a couple of weeks ago, but it's 16 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:53,160 really on you at this point. 17 00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:54,520 Yeah, it really is. 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,160 Like, you don't have to go to YouTube. 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,640 You can go to Spotify, Apple. 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,640 Lots of places. 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:00,640 Lots of places. 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:01,640 And you don't have to see us. 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,640 So yeah. 24 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,640 Yeah. 25 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,760 So Ben was commenting earlier today while we were setting up. 26 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,720 He's like, yeah, it's really weird editing because I see my beard and hair grow each 27 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:10,720 week. 28 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:11,720 It's trend. 29 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,640 And I'm like, that's, I love that journey for you. 30 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:15,640 Right. 31 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,640 You actually look pretty much the exact same. 32 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,040 Even though I know your beard is growing, it doesn't really show up on camera as well. 33 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,040 No. 34 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,040 Yeah. 35 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,040 No. 36 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,920 Though there was, I don't know if you remember when you had the contest with the kids and 37 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,920 you took off your beard. 38 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,600 It went from nothing to a ton. 39 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:30,600 Yeah. 40 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,600 Almost overnight. 41 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,600 It grows quick. 42 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,080 It grows to a certain point and then all your hair is like, hold it. 43 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,120 So yeah, there's a buddy of mine in town. 44 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,000 He's been working really hard on his beard. 45 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,520 Really hard for the whole time we've been, the whole time we've lived in this town. 46 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,880 And I've shaved my beard down twice and I've regrown it to longer than his. 47 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:51,880 And he hasn't touched it. 48 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,680 And he's doing the beard oil thing and everything. 49 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,680 Everything. 50 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,680 Yeah. 51 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,680 And then he's like, well, what are you doing? 52 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,040 And he's like, absolutely nothing. 53 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,280 Comb it out every once in a while. 54 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,760 I'm sure he was pleased with that answer. 55 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,440 He was, yeah. 56 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,120 Pleased is the right word to choose for that. 57 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,120 You know, I actually used to have a longer beard. 58 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,400 I experimented with growing it out and then I had kids. 59 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:18,200 And I will tell you, my sons will grip the beard just about as hard as you can imagine. 60 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,940 And so I got a handful of beurrier ripped out by my oldest. 61 00:02:22,940 --> 00:02:24,840 And I was like, well, this is getting cut back. 62 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:25,840 Yeah. 63 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,840 It was painful. 64 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:27,840 Yeah. 65 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,840 Yeah. 66 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,200 So, but yeah, it's my daughter used to like grab my beard and just like jerk my head whichever 67 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,320 way she wanted to go. 68 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,040 Now she just like punches me because she's five and it's like violence is her answer 69 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,040 to everything. 70 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,040 You also put her in jujitsu though. 71 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,040 I did. 72 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,040 But jujitsu is grappling. 73 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,040 Yeah. 74 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,040 Punching. 75 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,920 Well, she's just, she's really just taking jujitsu to a new level. 76 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:47,920 It's called karate. 77 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:48,920 Yeah. 78 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:51,400 So speaking of instructing children, we're actually in Deuteronomy. 79 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,400 Yeah. 80 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,000 Continuing on our series in Torah. 81 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,120 Moses has been talking to him. 82 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,800 He's like reminding them about where they've come from, like how they ended up here. 83 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,320 And then he talked to them about the Shema, the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, 84 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,320 mind and strength. 85 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,840 And we went through the 10 words last week and how maybe there's not 10, but there's 86 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,680 actually five expressed two different ways. 87 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,680 Yeah. 88 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,760 If you have not listened to that episode, you'd probably go back and listen to it. 89 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,400 So today we're going to be continuing on. 90 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,840 We're actually going to be in Deuteronomy seven through 11. 91 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,040 So go find that pause button, give it a press and read those chapters. 92 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,720 That was very radio. 93 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,480 I was trying, that's what I was going for. 94 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,480 Did it work? 95 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,280 Um, you know, it was radio, but it also kind of gave off the vibes of like a GPS. 96 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,280 Perfect. 97 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,320 In full a hundred feet, please turn left. 98 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,320 Right? 99 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,320 Like it was kind of that vibe too. 100 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,960 Have you ever sat in the back seat of a car and just wanted to do like the fake GPS noise 101 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,440 and be like, maybe, no, sorry. 102 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,560 You turn and just give wrong directions. 103 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,520 Well, see, here's, here's where it's very clear. 104 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,720 Like, you know me, but you don't really know me. 105 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,680 I've absolutely done that. 106 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,360 So usually if I want to do something, I just do it at some point. 107 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,480 So somebody is driving and I was like, we are taking a left turn. 108 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,480 Like we're turning right. 109 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,680 I was like, Oh, do not argue with the GPS. 110 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,680 You know? 111 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,680 Yeah. 112 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,680 So I, that's my computerized voice by the way. 113 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:06,680 Yeah. 114 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:07,680 All right. 115 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,920 So we are in, uh, it's going to start in Deuteronomy chapter seven and let's just take a look here 116 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,520 right at the very beginning. 117 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,480 So it starts out and it says when the Lord, your God brings you into the land, you are 118 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,000 entering to possess and drives out before you the many nation. 119 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,240 And there's a lot of heights. 120 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,480 The Hittites, the Girgashites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Parasites, the Hittites 121 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,960 and the Jebusites. 122 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,120 Seven nations larger and stronger than you. 123 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,400 Boy, that's a motivational talk, huh? 124 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,760 Hey, there's seven other nations and they're all better than you. 125 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:36,760 Yeah. 126 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,160 Guys are going to go drive them out. 127 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,160 Yeah. 128 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,160 Which is actually kind of cool. 129 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,360 It says in verse two, and when the Lord, your God has delivered them over to you and you 130 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,260 have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. 131 00:04:47,260 --> 00:04:51,040 So I was researching this and I actually wanted to pause here because this is something that's 132 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,080 going to come up again a lot in Deuteronomy. 133 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,880 And if we ever get to Joshua, we're going to talk about this too. 134 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,640 This conquest literature and this destroy them completely. 135 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,960 So I went and actually took a look at the word that they translate as destroy and it 136 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,800 is it is K'rahram. 137 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,680 I do not speak Hebrew, so that is if somebody is listening and they do, they're going to 138 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,400 be like, that's definitely not how you pronounce it. 139 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:18,040 But it actually means to ban, devote, destroy or utterly destroy. 140 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,680 So it could mean to prohibit or to be put under the ban. 141 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,440 Another one is like to split. 142 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,360 Now one of the places that we see this show up prior in scripture is actually in Exodus 143 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:33,720 22 20 when God says to them, he says, whoever sacrifices to any other God other than the 144 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,840 Lord must be destroyed. 145 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:40,160 Now once again, we want to talk about these words because I think the tendency is we read 146 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,600 in Old Testament literature that we're like, oh, well, that just means that, you know, 147 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,960 they're going to get wiped out. 148 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:45,960 It's harsh. 149 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:46,960 It's all these things. 150 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,080 It's also a type of literature. 151 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,720 And destroy doesn't necessarily mean destroy. 152 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,960 And so if we automatically assume it's like the harshest version of that, we're going 153 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,360 to we're going to set ourselves up for misunderstanding what the scripture is talking about. 154 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:05,000 Now as evidence to this, if you actually look apart after right after this, it says in verse 155 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:11,500 three that they're not supposed to enter Mary, which is a really weird command if they followed 156 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:12,760 the first one. 157 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,760 Yeah. 158 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:14,760 Right. 159 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,320 If you actually destroyed the civilization completely, you couldn't intermarry. 160 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,680 And that's going to happen a lot in the scripture. 161 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,200 He's going to say when you go in and you destroy them completely, don't intermarry with them, 162 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,200 don't keep their idols. 163 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:31,720 You're like, well, and when they and when they marry into your tribes, make sure that 164 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:37,000 they take your customs and you're like, okay, so I'm misunderstanding something here, which 165 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,680 is actually the point of our podcast is making sure that we're actually reading the Bible 166 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:41,680 in its context. 167 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,680 Yeah. 168 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,280 I don't have to agree with me on that, which is totally fine, but I would just argue that 169 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:52,640 there is a kind of language called conquest literature and a lot of the the laws and the 170 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:58,960 legal speech of this time was harsher than it actually was an action to put somebody 171 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,900 to death really meant to like put somebody outside of the fellowship to separate them 172 00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:03,900 from what you're doing. 173 00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:04,900 Right now. 174 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:07,360 Did it sometimes mean putting them to death? 175 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,200 Yes, absolutely. 176 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,600 But the question is, is that the norm or is that the exception? 177 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:13,840 Mm hmm. 178 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:19,960 And let's also just speak to the difficulty of destroying a like nation or people outright. 179 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:20,960 Right. 180 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,440 Like that is very, very hard to do. 181 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,440 Yeah. 182 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,000 It's pretty much impossible. 183 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Right. 184 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,200 And so there are going to be some people from that nation who do survive. 185 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Sure. 186 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,520 There's other historical documents about people who have survived conquests like that, and 187 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,040 then have masqueraded like people of the nation that conquered them. 188 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,040 Right. 189 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,880 So there's actually example of that in the text itself. 190 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:43,880 Yes. 191 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,040 With the I forgot what the name of the tribe is. 192 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,520 I'll put it in the video version. 193 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,520 But they come to Joshua and they broker a deal pretending to be somebody else. 194 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,520 Yeah. 195 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,520 Right. 196 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,520 Which actually doesn't add well for them or Joshua. 197 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,000 But you know, that's that's just part of it. 198 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Yeah. 199 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,040 So I think one of my encouragements in this is you need to contextualize what they're 200 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,040 saying. 201 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,340 And so our English translations aren't always great at helping us understand what a word 202 00:08:07,340 --> 00:08:10,360 actually means, and I'm going to do this a couple of times as we're going through the 203 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,360 text here. 204 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,360 Yeah. 205 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:13,360 So just quick 10 seconds here. 206 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,120 We just need to also understand that when Torah was written, there's argument on whether 207 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:21,880 there's 4000 words up to 15000 words in the Hebrew language in the Hebrew language. 208 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,200 So 4000 to 15000. 209 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,400 Whereas yeah, in English, you're going to deal with like 200 to 400000 in English. 210 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,400 Yeah. 211 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,400 Yeah. 212 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,800 A lot of their words are going to be multiple things. 213 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:32,800 Yeah. 214 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:33,800 Yeah. 215 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,440 And so you kind of have to pick up context of the entire sentence when you're actually 216 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,440 translating this. 217 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,640 So we also want to give a ton of grace to translators. 218 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,080 Yeah, it's extremely hard, extremely hard with when you have like one word that means 219 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,080 six different things. 220 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,080 Right. 221 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,080 Yeah. 222 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,040 But that also is really important when they use a word and there's a word devoted to a 223 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,400 specific thing and they don't use that word. 224 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,840 And we translate it that way anyways, which we've seen a couple of times in our study 225 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:57,840 too. 226 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,360 So basically, what God is saying here is when you go in, I want you to make sure you clean 227 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,360 house. 228 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Yeah. 229 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,360 Right. 230 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:05,640 I want you to get rid of all the stuff that's going to keep you that's going to mess you 231 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,640 up. 232 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,840 Like get rid of the idols, get rid of the gods, like all those things that are going 233 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,220 to cause you to make bad decisions. 234 00:09:12,220 --> 00:09:17,040 And I think it's interesting if you take the idea of actually setting it apart, banning 235 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,560 it, setting it separate, it's actually really interesting because Israel is actually called 236 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:22,560 to be set apart. 237 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:23,560 Yeah. 238 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:24,560 Right. 239 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:25,960 So he's saying like, take the things that aren't supposed to be a part of you and set 240 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,760 them apart because you yourselves, Israel, are set apart. 241 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:29,760 Yeah. 242 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,720 Now, of course, the issue that they keep running into all throughout the Old Testament is they 243 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,000 want to be like everybody else. 244 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,720 You're not supposed to be like everybody else. 245 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,720 You're supposed to be different. 246 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:38,720 Right. 247 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:39,720 That's the whole point of Leviticus. 248 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,200 That's the whole point of Torah. 249 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,600 You're supposed to put a different story on display to bring people's attention to God. 250 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,160 Moses actually continues in verse seven, he says, by the way, God didn't set his affection 251 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,040 on you because you were the strongest. 252 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,040 Right. 253 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,240 He actually chose you because you're the weakest. 254 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,520 They didn't choose you because you had a ton of numbers. 255 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,840 He chose you because you had next to no numbers, which feels very Gideon story to me. 256 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:02,840 Yeah. 257 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,640 It's a Gideon story, and it's very much how the Lord works where he's like, yeah, you 258 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,840 don't think you can accomplish this. 259 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Now go. 260 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,200 Not only that, in verse eight, he says it's actually it was the love of God that brought 261 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,200 you out of Egypt. 262 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,200 Yeah. 263 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,200 Right. 264 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,200 It's actually the love of God that brings you here. 265 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:23,040 And God is faithful to a thousand generations for people to follow him. 266 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,920 And then Moses quotes from Leviticus 26, 28. 267 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,320 Now once again, why is he quoting from Leviticus? 268 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,520 Because he's restating the law for them in a lot of ways, because this is the next generation 269 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:34,880 about to go into the land. 270 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:35,880 Right. 271 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:36,920 So they're not necessarily familiar. 272 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,480 Now if you remember, Leviticus 26, which I know it's just on the tip of your tongue out 273 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:42,480 there. 274 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,480 Yeah. 275 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,480 God has made the statement. 276 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,320 He says, if you follow these statues, if you go and walk faithfully, then I'm going to 277 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,040 bless you to a thousand generations. 278 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,280 I'm going to physically dwell among you, which is a great call forward to the time of Jesus 279 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,600 when people are actually putting Torah on their heart. 280 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:55,880 Right. 281 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:00,560 But he says, if you don't do it, the quotes is if in spite of this, you still do not listen 282 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:03,760 to me, but continue to be hostile toward me. 283 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,240 Then in my anger, I will be hostile toward you and I myself will punish you for your 284 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:13,400 sins seven times over blessings and curses of following God in the book of Leviticus. 285 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,400 Right. 286 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,480 And Moses is reminding them of their call to be a kingdom of freests. 287 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Yeah. 288 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,480 Right. 289 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,240 To actually bless the nations and through them, all people are going to be blessed. 290 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,960 And if you're not going to bless people, then your actual identity is actually going to 291 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,600 be a curse on the people around you. 292 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,080 So the other thing to note is what's the motivation for blessing. 293 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,360 That all nations would be blessed. 294 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,360 Yes. 295 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,360 A lot of times we treat blessing now as a selfish thing. 296 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,640 Oh, a hundred percent. 297 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,800 And so like when we do that, we're actually providing a curse for other people because 298 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,560 we're not doing it so that others can truly be blessed. 299 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:47,720 We're doing it so others can notice how good we are at quote unquote blessing others. 300 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,840 And that's a good point. 301 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,000 And I want to put a pin in it because there's a really big sticking point in a further chapter. 302 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Yeah. 303 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,000 So we'll put a pause on that. 304 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,680 But new listeners, you hear that we're coming back to that. 305 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:00,680 Okay. 306 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:01,680 I do. 307 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:02,680 I think this is interesting. 308 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:03,760 What do you think it means to be an enemy of God? 309 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,520 Like he says that if you, if you remain hostile to me and you become like my enemy, right? 310 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Like what does it mean in the context of Torah to be an enemy of God? 311 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,920 I don't imagine it's good. 312 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,040 I don't imagine it. 313 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,040 But what is it? 314 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,040 What I would imagine. 315 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,760 So if being a friend of God means that you are seeking to love him and love other people. 316 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,720 Well, my only thought is that being an enemy of God, you don't do that. 317 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,960 So I think there's a misinterpretation a little bit here. 318 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:38,400 So one is oftentimes we assume if someone's our enemy, we have to attack them. 319 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,540 What you do. 320 00:12:40,540 --> 00:12:42,200 Have you not played Battleship? 321 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,640 I have. 322 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,680 But just because someone is your enemy doesn't necessarily mean you're at war with them. 323 00:12:47,680 --> 00:12:49,200 Oh, that's true. 324 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,000 You could look at that. 325 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,040 America has enemies, but they're not at war with every single one of them. 326 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,040 Right. 327 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,280 So just because there's someone is your enemy, it might mean you're actually still living 328 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:04,040 in a somewhat negotiable piece with them. 329 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:09,520 So if you're an enemy of God, it might just mean that God is waiting for you to become 330 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,160 his friend. 331 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,480 But there's also the capacity where you're actively working against God's agenda. 332 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,080 Yeah, there's that too. 333 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,800 Which is a troubling thing for me that I think of frequently because of some of Jesus's woes 334 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,480 that he lays on the Pharisees, right? 335 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,720 God's nature is love. 336 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,440 And so there's also an element of God's like, yes, I'm going to stand up for that. 337 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,120 But there's also an element of God's like, I love these people dearly. 338 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,600 And he's weeping and heartbroken over the fact that they're denouncing him. 339 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,600 I would agree with that. 340 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,880 I mean, the woes. 341 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,920 Jesus is weeping over these seven woes and the things that he's actually bringing up. 342 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,480 I find myself wondering often, and I think about this in my life, and I also just think 343 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,240 about it in terms of like the American church and what we do a lot of times for the gospel 344 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,360 purposes. 345 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:58,120 It's one thing when you're not necessarily actively participating in the kingdom of God. 346 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,280 And it's another thing when it seems like you're actually actively working against it. 347 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,280 And I think that we have to be careful not actively find ourselves in that role. 348 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,720 So I think when it comes to being an enemy of God, like sometimes we're actively working 349 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,600 against him. 350 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,960 Sometimes we're just passively not with him. 351 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,360 And so I think recognizing that difference is huge. 352 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,640 Like if you're actively working against God and God comes to a place where he's like, 353 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,800 okay, I'm going to show you who I am. 354 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,400 That might not be a friendly spot to be in. 355 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,400 Right. 356 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:29,400 Like look at Egypt. 357 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,400 Right. 358 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,940 Like actively working against God's people making their toil harder. 359 00:14:32,940 --> 00:14:37,720 And God's like, all right, let me show you how I'm more powerful than all your gods. 360 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:38,720 Right. 361 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,720 And then you have that. 362 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,400 There's always the invitation in there and God's actually trying to bring people out 363 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,400 of there. 364 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,400 There is. 365 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,400 Yeah, there is. 366 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,400 And then there's other stories of people who are like, I'm just not walking with God, but 367 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:49,600 I'm not opposing him. 368 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,600 Yeah. 369 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:51,600 And God's like, all right, well, the door's open. 370 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:52,600 You have a seat at the table. 371 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,720 I want you in the house. 372 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:55,720 I like that. 373 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,000 Well, and I think, I think for us being an enemy of God, like that's actually not a position 374 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,000 for you and I to judge. 375 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,680 Even if somebody is an enemy of God, our job is to love our enemies. 376 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,480 So it's exactly what Jesus says. 377 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,720 That was the first cutest. 378 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:06,720 Yeah. 379 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,120 Like the people who are actively opposing the kingdom of God are the people we're supposed 380 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,120 to care the most about. 381 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,920 Maybe not the most about, but we care about. 382 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,840 Yeah, we're supposed to care about them and we're supposed to bring Christ to them. 383 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:16,840 Yeah. 384 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,120 Which is a very interesting twist that we've put on it in years past. 385 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,120 Yeah. 386 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,120 I think about how often like we are divided by people or like frustrated with people that 387 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,120 just disagree with us. 388 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,800 And I was like, man, those, those are the people we're supposed to love. 389 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,360 Like the very people that frustrate us are the people that God calls us to love. 390 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,360 Yeah. 391 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,400 And I always know that there are people God calls me to love because as I'm frustrated 392 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,360 with them, I hear that, I hear that whisper and he's like, they're made in my image. 393 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,560 I like them. 394 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:43,800 I want them in my family. 395 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,360 And I'm like, do you ever have those times where God's like, remember how much of a wretch 396 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,360 you were and how much I loved you then? 397 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,360 And then you're like, yes. 398 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,880 And he's like, okay, you know, that person that's driving you up a wall right now. 399 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,320 And you're like, thank you. 400 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,320 Yeah. 401 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,320 Yeah. 402 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,320 Yeah. 403 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,160 I remember I was talking to somebody who seemed like a know it all and God's like, 404 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,160 tap, tap, tap. 405 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,160 Hey, guess what, Ben? 406 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,160 I love you. 407 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,840 Oh, it was really good. 408 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:10,840 Oh man. 409 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,720 He's like, but I love you. 410 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,280 So he talks about God says, Hey, like Moses is quoting, he says, Hey, there's going to 411 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,260 be blessings or there's going to be curses depending on whether or not you choose to 412 00:16:20,260 --> 00:16:22,480 obey or be the anti story. 413 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:23,480 Yeah. 414 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,480 Right. 415 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,720 And then in verse 11, he uses a word that is very important when you're studying the 416 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:27,720 Bible. 417 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,400 If you see it, then it is contingent on everything that came before. 418 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,400 Yeah. 419 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,880 It's called therefore. 420 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:39,240 Therefore, one of the pastoral descriptions that comes up all the time when people talk 421 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,840 about this, they say, if you see a therefore, you need to see what the therefore is there 422 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:44,840 for. 423 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,300 Man, it's, I've heard that so many times. 424 00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:49,720 Take that to your English teacher. 425 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,080 Yeah, exactly. 426 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:56,000 So therefore, Moses says, because of everything that he just talked about, take care to follow 427 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,320 the instructions that I'm giving you today. 428 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,320 So then let's take a risk. 429 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,880 Take a look at verse 12, if you pay attention to the laws and are careful to follow them, 430 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,880 then the Lord your God will keep his covenant of love with you as he swore to your ancestors. 431 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,860 Now I told you we're going to kind of talk about some literal translations. 432 00:17:11,860 --> 00:17:16,020 So before we get into the blessings that follow, I actually want to give a literal word for 433 00:17:16,020 --> 00:17:21,220 word translation of the same verse using a Hebrew roots, right? 434 00:17:21,220 --> 00:17:26,000 Then it shall come about because you listen to judgment, these and keep and do them that 435 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,920 this will keep the Lord your God with you. 436 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,320 His covenant and his loving kindness, which he swore to your forefathers. 437 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:38,080 Now one of the reasons I like that a little bit more is then it shall come about if you 438 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,080 pay attention or then it shall come about very different feels. 439 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:46,320 At least I feel like in the English language, if it's like, well, if you do this, then maybe, 440 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,600 but like the whole idea, if it shall come about, if you follow after God, this is something 441 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,600 that will happen. 442 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:52,600 Yeah. 443 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,600 Right. 444 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,040 Which reminds me of a story that Jesus tells in John 15 to his disciples. 445 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,840 He says, I am the vine and you're the branches. 446 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:07,080 If you connect with me, you're going to bear fruit. 447 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,520 But if you're not with me, you can't do anything. 448 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,600 It's interesting that you bring the, if you pay attention and, and the, then it shall 449 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,040 come about because those are two very different things. 450 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,040 Yeah. 451 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,520 Like one implies that you're just looking, you're observing, you're saying, okay, what's 452 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:22,520 happening? 453 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,520 The other applies. 454 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,520 You're living it. 455 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,960 And that's two different things. 456 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:26,960 Right. 457 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,680 So I can look, see, and observe what goes in and around the town we live in. 458 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,000 But if I'm not living in the town, I'm not actually experiencing all the struggles and 459 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,560 hardships that are happening. 460 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:38,560 Right. 461 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:39,560 Right. 462 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:45,040 Well, and if it's such a weird word, you're like, well, if you do this and if you do that, 463 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,960 you know, we're supposed to, Hey, this is going to be the natural result of what you 464 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:49,960 do. 465 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:50,960 Yeah. 466 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Right. 467 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,720 So then God says, he says, if it will then come about, if you follow after me, this is 468 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,120 what's going to happen. 469 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:59,760 God is going to love, which is Ahava, which is the committed love. 470 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:00,760 Right. 471 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:01,760 And bless, which is Barack. 472 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,000 I don't think we've talked about bless before, but bless is like to bend the knee. 473 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000 Right. 474 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,240 In other words, in service of, right. 475 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,280 And by the way, some people are really uncomfortable with that because God says he's going to 476 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,280 bless you. 477 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,280 He's going to bend the knee and serve you. 478 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,200 I was like, well, he got down and washed your feet too. 479 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,120 Like that's who God is. 480 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:18,120 And that's who we're going to be. 481 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:19,120 You mean Jesus, Torah made flesh? 482 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:20,120 Yes. 483 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:21,120 Yeah. 484 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:22,120 Jesus, Torah made flesh. 485 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:23,120 Lived out, lived this out. 486 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:27,560 And he says that God will Ahava and Barack you, and he's going to multiply you, which 487 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:28,720 is a Rabah. 488 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,760 And I'll explain why I'm bringing those up in just a minute. 489 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:36,640 So he will bless Barack the fruit of your womb, the fruit of the ground, which is the 490 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:42,480 grain, the new wine and the oil and the fruit of your herd, which is your livestock. 491 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,840 If you think about that is God's going to bless your family, your work and your livelihood, 492 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,120 your personal like things. 493 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:54,720 Now I remember a story in the New Testament and actually you and I just recently preached 494 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,320 about this in the Sermon on the Mount, which is Jesus's commentary on Torah. 495 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,320 Yeah. 496 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,320 Right. 497 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,320 Where he says, don't worry about tomorrow. 498 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:08,840 Tomorrow has enough worries of its own, but seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness. 499 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,880 And all those things that you're worried about, the food, the wealth, the clothes, any of 500 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,680 those things that you're worried about, like being able to provide for yourself, they're 501 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,080 going to be added to you as well. 502 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,080 Yeah. 503 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,080 So the only thing that you need is to seek first. 504 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,080 Yeah. 505 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:26,040 So it's almost like Jesus is saying, if you do this, then this is what's going to happen. 506 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,040 Yep. 507 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,480 Now to your point, blessing isn't for you. 508 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,480 Blessing is for those around you. 509 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:31,480 Right. 510 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,680 Going back to Genesis 12, you will be blessed so that. 511 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Allatians will do this. 512 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,080 Right. 513 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,480 And so I want to really comment here is we've talked about this a couple of times. 514 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,640 We're probably going to have to get a little bit more into the nitty gritty. 515 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,160 Mike, we're going to kind of skim a stone today again. 516 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:51,400 There are people who abuse the blessing of God for selfish means in the church today. 517 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,240 One hundred percent that happens. 518 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,240 And that's wrong. 519 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,520 Yeah. 520 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,400 And we oppose that theology because that is going to lead people to selfishness, not to 521 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,560 goodness and mercy. 522 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,400 And if you're someone who's blessed with a lot, you're called to bless others. 523 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,000 We've talked about that before too. 524 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,000 Yeah. 525 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,400 So oftentimes I see people who they are blessed with a lot, but then it's like they just refuse 526 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,600 to bless other people. 527 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,880 They just hoard it for themselves. 528 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,880 Right. 529 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,760 That's not who we're called to be. 530 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:27,720 The other side of the equation is people who are so afraid of that theology that they never 531 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,800 actually walk in the blessing of God. 532 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,800 Yeah. 533 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:36,280 And so they never actually receive all that God has for them to be conduits of, yes, maybe 534 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,280 money, maybe relationships, maybe leadership. 535 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,800 I don't know what God wants to pour into your life, but he wants to prosper you so that 536 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,680 the people around you would prosper. 537 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,240 And because you're so afraid of what some people did incorrectly, you're afraid to do 538 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,280 it correctly. 539 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,480 And that's wrong too. 540 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,520 And it's almost like following God is a little bit of walking this tightrope because it's 541 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,120 not this and it's not that it's a little bit of like walking in the middle. 542 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:00,120 Right. 543 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:06,560 It's walking in faithfulness after Christ, not trying to accumulate for yourself, which 544 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:11,840 I mean, wasn't that the story of numbers is like, are you going to follow the cloud or 545 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,840 or not? 546 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,840 Yeah. 547 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:14,840 And like, what happens when you don't? 548 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,520 Are you going to trust the leadership? 549 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,100 Are you going to trust God or not? 550 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:21,200 And they struggle with that a ton in the desert. 551 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,880 One of the things I love about scripture in general, and this is going to be a bit of 552 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,880 a rabbit trail. 553 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:32,600 So for warning, I'm leaving that in on the video by the way. 554 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,160 Thank you for the podcast listeners. 555 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,120 I just did a bunny ears and I bounced it across the screen. 556 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:38,120 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 557 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:39,120 Yeah. 558 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:43,680 But one of the things I love about scripture in general is if you took the biblical characters 559 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,120 that we hold in such high esteem and they moved into your neighborhood, chances are 560 00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:50,560 you would tell your kids to stay away from them. 561 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,560 Yeah. 562 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,600 Like David, for example, like, oh, hey, wasn't was it? 563 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,600 Keep your wife away from him. 564 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:57,600 Yeah. 565 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,600 Right. 566 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,960 But be like, wait, isn't he the guy who like commit like king, like ruler of a nation and 567 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,000 then his saw his commander's life naked. 568 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,280 I was like, I want her. 569 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:14,120 So then devised a military strategy utilizing government funds to have him killed so he 570 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:15,120 could take her as his wife. 571 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:16,120 And is that that lady? 572 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:17,120 Yeah. 573 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:19,040 Oh, and is he also a horrible dad? 574 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,040 Yeah. 575 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,040 Okay. 576 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,560 Little Jimmy, don't we're not hanging out with them. 577 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,400 We're not spending time with them. 578 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,040 Doesn't his son have like 900 wives? 579 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,040 Yeah. 580 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,040 Right. 581 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,880 And then have you seen the parade of people coming through his door? 582 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:32,880 Yeah. 583 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,840 Like you look at some of these characters in the in scripture where you're like, hey, isn't 584 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,480 like, isn't Moses a murderer? 585 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,480 Yeah. 586 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,480 Didn't he kill someone? 587 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,480 Yeah. 588 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,480 Yeah. 589 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,480 Right. 590 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,040 You look at some of these characters and you're like, man, they got some pretty big stains 591 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,040 on their life. 592 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,480 Didn't Jacob lie to his dad about who he was? 593 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,480 Mm hmm. 594 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,480 You know? 595 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,480 Yeah. 596 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,480 Right. 597 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,200 And then we're and we hold these people on high esteem, not because of that, but because 598 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,240 they returned to God. 599 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,800 They sought out redemption. 600 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,240 They sought out repentance. 601 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,240 Hold on a second. 602 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,440 Are you saying that God's redemption and forgiveness is bigger than our sin? 603 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,440 Yes. 604 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,440 I'm shocked. 605 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,440 Mm hmm. 606 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,440 Right. 607 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,440 Shocker. 608 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,440 Right. 609 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,440 But I mean, that's just something I was thinking about here. 610 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:22,920 And it actually goes right into what we're about to talk about in Deuteronomy, where Moses 611 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,680 in verse 17, he's saying, remember the desert. 612 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,440 Remember where you fell short. 613 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,560 Right. 614 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,880 Don't be in awe of the nations that you're about to come and face the awe of God. 615 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,120 By the way, you want to hear what you love to quote all the time as you talk about, don't 616 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:39,800 be afraid of the person who can take your life. 617 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,600 Be afraid of the one who's controlling your soul. 618 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,240 It feels very much like in line with this. 619 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,480 Like don't don't get impressed by these nations and their armies. 620 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,720 Like maybe be more impressed with the God who can knock them out with a weak nation. 621 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,720 Yeah. 622 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,720 Massey 1028 people. 623 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,720 Yeah. 624 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,040 Remember where you're coming from. 625 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,760 Like do you remember how strong Egypt was? 626 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,880 And I brought the those 10 plagues and drop property right out. 627 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,160 I eliminated their entire army. 628 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,440 Like don't don't fall for this whole thing. 629 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,960 So moving forward in verse 22, it says the Lord your God will drive out the nations before 630 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,960 you little by little. 631 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,720 You will not be allowed to eliminate them all at once or the wild animals will multiply 632 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,720 around you. 633 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,900 Now that is a weird kind of statement. 634 00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:20,920 The word for numerous is Raba like earlier. 635 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,080 So you can get catching a theme of like repeated words of the wild animals and the beast actually 636 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,360 connects back to Genesis one. 637 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:31,480 Like Torah once again referencing itself, especially when partner with the words around 638 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,680 you, which actually says is Hebrew word for a field. 639 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,800 So it's not actually the multiply around you as they're going to multiply in the field. 640 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,800 Yeah. 641 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,800 Right. 642 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,400 And we connect that back to Genesis one. 643 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:48,240 Don't forget the serpent was more crafty than any of the animals in the field or the beast 644 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,240 in the field. 645 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,240 Right. 646 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,240 Yeah. 647 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,880 Now in Hebrew once again, wild animals is beasts of the field. 648 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,720 So God will accomplish all this. 649 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,920 So burn the idols, don't get drawn in by the gold and silver, there's going to be a snare 650 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:03,120 for you just like the tree was. 651 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,120 Yeah. 652 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:10,240 And we're going to do this piece by piece because otherwise the Satan's are going to 653 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,360 literally come up around you and in scenario. 654 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:14,360 Yeah. 655 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:19,240 So why is God not driving them all out at once and doing it piece by piece for Israel's 656 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,720 benefit, not for his. 657 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,720 Right. 658 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,880 Which is a message in there for us. 659 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,880 Yeah. 660 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:26,880 Right. 661 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,760 That the Lord moves in our life little by little. 662 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,760 Exactly. 663 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,560 And sometimes there's a drastic change that happens. 664 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,560 Right. 665 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,200 But oftentimes it's little by little changing who you are, shaping who you are. 666 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,680 So you become more like Christ in everything you do. 667 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,440 Now starting chapter eight, I want to ask you if you're, if you're sensing a theme, 668 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,560 be careful to follow every command I'm giving you today so that you may live and increase 669 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,840 and may enter and possess the land the Lord promised on oath to your ancestors. 670 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:52,840 Okay. 671 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,920 And also compare that with chapter seven, verse 11. 672 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,640 Therefore take care to follow these commands decrees and laws I give you today. 673 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,040 It seems like he say this a lot. 674 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,080 Like if you, if you're reading Deuteronomy and you're like, man, it seems like Moses 675 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,660 is like, remember, follow the decrees, listen to the laws. 676 00:27:09,660 --> 00:27:10,660 Remember what God did. 677 00:27:10,660 --> 00:27:12,280 Hey, do you remember when this you remember? 678 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,640 Hey, do you remember? 679 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,640 Yeah. 680 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,640 Yeah. 681 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,200 Like remember it's going to be like that earth, wind and fire song. 682 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,200 Do you remember? 683 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,440 Right. 684 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,800 So like remember the 40 years that journey with God. 685 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,440 And then he makes an interesting comment in verse two. 686 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:32,680 He says, what did the manna, the bread actually teach them that you don't live by food, but 687 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,240 by the provision of God, which by the way is very similar to a conversation that Jesus 688 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,600 has with another serpent in the desert. 689 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Yep. 690 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,280 By the way, when, when I point these things out, like if you're like, wow, that's connected 691 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,840 to yeah, that's actually our point. 692 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,480 Like I'm pointing these things out on purpose. 693 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,480 Yeah. 694 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,960 And the more you look for it and the more you start to understand like what the Hebrew 695 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,560 and how it's cross-referencing, you're going to be like, Oh, the Bible's interconnected. 696 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,560 Yeah. 697 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,320 It's one big story. 698 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,860 So in verse five, Moses writes, know that God has been working with you the same way 699 00:28:03,860 --> 00:28:05,340 a father works with his son. 700 00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:08,680 Now oftentimes this can get miscued, right? 701 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,080 Because discipline we often view as punishment. 702 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,080 Right. 703 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,200 And then that's not what that's not what it means at all, especially not in Hebrew, not 704 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,200 in Hebrew. 705 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,400 No, in Hebrew, it means more to raise up, to build up, to like instill, instill right 706 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,400 values. 707 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,440 So it almost might be in line with like disciple. 708 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,440 Yeah. 709 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,280 It's closer to that actually than it is to punishment. 710 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,280 Yeah. 711 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,800 And that part of that, we've used it as a, as a word for punishment and discipline is 712 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:32,940 in punishment. 713 00:28:32,940 --> 00:28:37,820 So in this context though, what Moses is actually talking about is he's talking about, he disciple 714 00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:42,520 your children in a way that betters the world around them. 715 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,840 Well, and in the same way that you disciple your children to be like fully formed grownups, 716 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,560 that's what God was doing for you in the desert. 717 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Exactly. 718 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,240 And he was, he was actually walking you through a process, which we by the way saw over and 719 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,960 over again, like they would grumble, they would complain, not unlike children in a car 720 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,400 that are grumbling because you're not taking a break. 721 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,600 Right? 722 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,780 God is just patient with them and he's working through them and he's like, do you trust me? 723 00:29:04,780 --> 00:29:05,780 Do you trust me? 724 00:29:05,780 --> 00:29:06,780 Do you trust me? 725 00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:07,780 Do you understand why we're doing this? 726 00:29:07,780 --> 00:29:13,160 So even the manna was meant to teach them to rely on him, not on their own production. 727 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,680 So the other night I had a conversation with my daughter. 728 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,760 She's five and a half. 729 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,040 It was a conversation of why we need sleep. 730 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,080 And it was how we talked about how our bodies cannot function if we do not sleep. 731 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,800 We start to lose control of things. 732 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,780 Our mind starts to go crazy. 733 00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:31,200 We just physically can't move around as well. 734 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,480 Health gets all wonky. 735 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,480 We have to have a sleep. 736 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,160 That'd be similar to what they're saying here. 737 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,160 Right. 738 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,200 Like to discipline like a father does to a son is to build up to encourage someone in 739 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,200 the way that they're growing. 740 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,320 Yeah, and then verse six, it flows into that because depending on how you interpret five, 741 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,800 you're going to come up with wildly different ideas because he says, you know, this is how 742 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,760 you know that you can trust God wants the best for you. 743 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:55,760 Right. 744 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,480 Well, if you're used to discipline being a negative thing, that's not necessarily going 745 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,960 to be reassuring to him. 746 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,440 You know, I want to read this section. 747 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,280 It's verse seven through 20. 748 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,920 So it's a fairly large section, but I was going through and like, I love to talk through 749 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,740 it, but I, this section of scripture is really good. 750 00:30:12,740 --> 00:30:17,160 So starting in verse seven, it says for the Lord, your God is bringing you into a good 751 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,200 land, a land with Brooks streams and deep springs, gushing out with the valleys and 752 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,720 hills, a land with wheat and barley vines and fig trees, pomegranates, olive oil and 753 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,720 honey, a land where bread will not be scarce and you will lack nothing. 754 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,400 A land where the rocks are iron and you can dig copper out of the hills. 755 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,400 Sounds like a good land. 756 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,900 I like it so far. 757 00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:42,360 When you have eaten and are satisfied, praise the Lord your God for the good land he has 758 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,360 given you. 759 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:48,400 Be careful that you do not forget the Lord your God failing to observe his commands, 760 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,440 his laws and his decrees that I'm giving you this day. 761 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:56,240 Otherwise when you eat and are satisfied, when you build fine houses and settle down 762 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,760 and when your herds and flocks grow large and your silver and gold increase and all 763 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,760 you have is multiplied, then your heart will become proud and you will forget the Lord 764 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,400 your God who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 765 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,960 He led you through the vast and dreadful wilderness, that thirsty and waterless land with its venomous 766 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,640 snakes and scorpions. 767 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,880 He brought you water out of a hard rock. 768 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,920 He gave you manna to eat in the wilderness, something your ancestors had never known, 769 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,360 to humble and to test you so that in the end it might go well for you. 770 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:29,320 You may say to yourself, my power and strength of my hands have produced this wealth for 771 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,320 me. 772 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,120 But remember the Lord your God for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth 773 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,680 and so confirms his covenant, which he swore to your ancestors as it is today. 774 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,120 If you ever forget the Lord your God and follow other gods and worship and bow down to them, 775 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,800 I testify against you today that you will surely be destroyed like the nations the Lord 776 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,000 destroyed before you. 777 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,520 So you will be destroyed for not obeying the Lord your God. 778 00:31:51,520 --> 00:32:01,160 Now I read that in prep for today and I was like, that is a really hard verse for a first 779 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,160 world nation. 780 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,680 Yeah, very hard. 781 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,920 And later in Deuteronomy, he's actually going to make the statement. 782 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:14,960 He says, you're going to get there and you're not going to remember who brought you here. 783 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,880 Did you know that in Jewish practice, they actually pray after the meal? 784 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:20,880 I did. 785 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,880 Yeah. 786 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,880 Yeah. 787 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,240 One of the reasons that they do that is because when your belly is full, if you're still thankful, 788 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,080 it means you actually appreciate what happened. 789 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,080 Yeah. 790 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,960 It's really easy to be thankful when you're super hungry. 791 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:37,160 But when you are full and you have everything that you need, are you still going to trust 792 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,160 in God? 793 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,920 Which by the way, it comes back to our whole talk about prosperity. 794 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,280 Are you going to trust God when you have enough? 795 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,840 Are you going to be a blessing to all nations or are you going to hoard for yourself? 796 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,680 This is why it's so important. 797 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,840 We've talked about this a number of times, but why it's so important to remember where 798 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,880 you come from. 799 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,080 Because if you can't remember where you come from, you're not going to remember what the 800 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,560 Lord's done for you. 801 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,560 Exactly. 802 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,360 And so you have, and I'm not saying dwell on it, right? 803 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,880 It is done. 804 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,880 It is in the past. 805 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,880 It's forgiven. 806 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,480 But you need to know the story. 807 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,480 Right. 808 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,480 Right? 809 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,360 Because that story is going to impact somebody else and it's going to help draw them closer 810 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,920 to Jesus. 811 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:20,320 And if you forget, you get to a point where you're like, oh, wait, who is this Jesus person 812 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,320 I'm talking about? 813 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,320 Right. 814 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,320 Who's this person that I say I have a relationship with, but I'm not actually following after? 815 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,600 Or Jesus becomes like a patch that you sew onto your sash. 816 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,600 Right. 817 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,520 Boy Scouts, you're awesome, but I'm not harassing you. 818 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,800 I'm just more talking about in general, Jesus is an Apache throw on. 819 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,800 Yes. 820 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,800 Right. 821 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,800 Yes. 822 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,120 So that actually brings us into chapter nine where God is, he's going to go before them 823 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,120 to drive them out. 824 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,040 But he says in verse four, it's not your righteousness, Israel. 825 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,040 Right? 826 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,880 It's not your righteousness that you're getting this land. 827 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,560 Like, it's not because you were awesome at following, like to your point of remembering 828 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,560 your past. 829 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,240 It's actually the wickedness of the nations, which we've talked about before the worship 830 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,240 of Malek and like the terrible things that were happening in these nations. 831 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,040 Like generation on generation, 400 years while God was trying to turn them from their path. 832 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,040 Right? 833 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,320 It's not because of you, but God is fulfilling his promise because by the way, you do know 834 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,880 you're a stiff necked people. 835 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:17,040 Boy, if there was a, I always think it's interesting, like America and like, like the anti-Semitic 836 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,720 view, like the church has kind of developed over time. 837 00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:23,480 I was like, because I don't know, like the American church, I don't know if like there's 838 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:29,200 a people group than ancient Israel that we could identify with more stiff necked, stubborn 839 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,200 people. 840 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,200 Right? 841 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,160 And the preface, not every church is that way. 842 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,160 Yeah, not every church. 843 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,760 I'm just talking about it in general. 844 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,880 Like just I'm talking about generalized character of America. 845 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,880 Oh yes. 846 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,880 Yes. 847 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,880 Yeah. 848 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,880 Yeah. 849 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,880 So please don't, that's not talking about any church. 850 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,520 There are tons of loving and great people and thank you for pointing that out. 851 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,560 That is a gross over generalization on purpose. 852 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,880 Hey, do you remember Horub? 853 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,880 You remember the golden calf? 854 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,880 You know that story? 855 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,880 Yeah. 856 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,080 Now I think it's interesting that Moses actually leaves off the story of God relenting at the 857 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,080 top of the mountain. 858 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,280 Right? 859 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,320 But there's, and the symmetry of like with his own anger, which we talked about back 860 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,280 in the Exodus episode, which go and check that out. 861 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,860 A school and calf episode. 862 00:35:05,860 --> 00:35:09,280 The other thing that I think is interesting, he doesn't bring up the 3000 people, which 863 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,080 also led to a lot of credence to my conversation at that point. 864 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,080 Yeah. 865 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,080 Right. 866 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,680 How about that time, by the way, that you didn't go in and take the land. 867 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,120 You remember that? 868 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,120 That turned out super well. 869 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,120 Right? 870 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,120 Yeah. 871 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,560 In fact, the reason he's having this conversation with this particular group of people is because 872 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,000 they didn't go in and take the land. 873 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,000 They're too big. 874 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,440 They're too scary. 875 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,440 Like you remember the bad thing. 876 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,400 Like don't only remember the good things. 877 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,480 It's good like to your point that you were already saying, like we should remember our 878 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,480 failures too. 879 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,480 Yeah. 880 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,520 Like our failures are pieces that we can use to teach people not to fall into the same 881 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,520 garbage we did. 882 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,520 Amen. 883 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,520 Right? 884 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,720 Like you should be able to talk about your failure. 885 00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:50,000 If God is indeed set you free, then you should be able to talk about your failure without 886 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,360 shame. 887 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,360 You're not going to be ashamed. 888 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,360 Now you can still feel remorse for what happened. 889 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,360 Yeah. 890 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,240 There's parts of my story that don't get told to five year olds. 891 00:35:58,240 --> 00:35:59,240 Right? 892 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:00,240 Right. 893 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:04,400 There's parts of my story that I will willingly share with any adult in the room. 894 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,400 Yeah. 895 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,400 Right. 896 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,480 If they ask and it's part of my past, not good stuff, but it is something the Lord saved 897 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,120 me from and how the Lord actually protected me in those moments to where I didn't get 898 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,560 into worse trouble than I could have gotten into. 899 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,560 Yeah. 900 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,560 Right. 901 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,560 Our story is so, so powerful. 902 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,840 It is. 903 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,760 The redemptive story of Christ in our life is so powerful. 904 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,220 And it's like the good things that Jesus does in your life and the bad things that you did 905 00:36:30,220 --> 00:36:31,220 that have got to come. 906 00:36:31,220 --> 00:36:33,640 Like both of those things are incredibly helpful. 907 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,640 Yeah. 908 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,640 Yeah. 909 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,640 So then we roll into chapter 10 and he talks about getting the two tablets and putting 910 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,080 them inside the ark. 911 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,120 He has a spot in verse 12 that I was going to point out. 912 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,120 It's verse 12. 913 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,640 He talks about what does God actually require of you Israel? 914 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,640 Right. 915 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,480 And there's a few points he says that he wants you to walk in his ways. 916 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,480 He wants you to love him and he wants you to worship him with all that you are. 917 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,480 Yeah. 918 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,400 Now it's not a direct quote, but that's very much the Shema again. 919 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,400 Yeah. 920 00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,400 Right. 921 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,640 And he says, Hey, if that's going to be the case, circumcise your heart. 922 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,760 Now, if you know what circumcision is, you know that you can't actually circumcise your 923 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,760 heart. 924 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,760 Right? 925 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,280 Like some of you, if you don't want to actually don't Google it, like that's not going to 926 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,920 be helpful, but if you don't know what it is, ask somebody, ask your priest, ask your 927 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,200 ask somebody who's not going to laugh at you. 928 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,200 Right. 929 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,960 But you don't circumcise a heart. 930 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,120 So the, but what essentially was circumcision on is you're actually cutting off like the 931 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,120 end. 932 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,120 Right. 933 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,120 So you're cutting off the exterior. 934 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,120 Yeah. 935 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,080 And so this idea of circumcision of the heart, by the way, Spencer is just laughing over 936 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,080 here. 937 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,040 I'm just laughing because you almost told them to Google what circumcision is. 938 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,080 That's what you almost did. 939 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,080 Yeah. 940 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,120 No, that was like, Oh, Ben, you're not wrong. 941 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,120 Where's quick. 942 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,400 We're going to have some really interesting questions for our Q and a, right? 943 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,400 You're like, yeah, Google. 944 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,400 No, don't do that. 945 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,400 I was just like, Oh boy. 946 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,400 Oh boy. 947 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,200 So, so the idea of circumcising your heart is you're cutting off the exterior of the 948 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,720 things that are actually keeping you from God. 949 00:37:57,720 --> 00:37:59,400 Like you're cutting off the things that don't belong. 950 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,520 You could actually take this to the analogy of gardening and say, once again, like you're 951 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,520 pruning. 952 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,520 Yeah. 953 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,520 Right. 954 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,520 Those things that are broken, you're pruning. 955 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,520 So Moses says, he says, Hey, why not like make sure to circumcise your hearts and don't 956 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,920 be a stiff necked people anymore. 957 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,760 Go and sin no more. 958 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,480 I'm just pointing out things that Jesus says on a regular basis. 959 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:28,440 Something that also harkens back to Genesis four when God's talking to Kane and he's like, 960 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,160 sin is crouching at your doorstep waiting to devour you. 961 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,920 You must conquer it. 962 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:35,920 Exactly. 963 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,920 Yeah. 964 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,920 Right. 965 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,920 Like you have a choice. 966 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,920 Yeah. 967 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,920 So then let's, let's talk about verses 18 through 21 here. 968 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,640 It's actually, will you read that? 969 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,640 Yeah. 970 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,520 He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow and he loves the foreigner residing 971 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,640 among you, giving them food and clothing. 972 00:38:53,640 --> 00:39:00,000 And you are to love those who are foreigners for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt. 973 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,920 Fear the Lord your God and serve him. 974 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,600 Hold fast to him and take your oaths in his name. 975 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,840 He is the one you praise. 976 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,280 He is your God who, who performed for you. 977 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,640 It's a great and awesome wonders you saw with your own eyes. 978 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:23,000 Your ancestors who went down into Egypt were 70 and all. 979 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,480 And now the Lord has made you as numerous as the stars in the sky. 980 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,480 All right. 981 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,680 So once again, this is where I come back and I talk about utterly destroy that maybe we're 982 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,220 a little bit misunderstanding what God is talking about because he's really getting 983 00:39:36,220 --> 00:39:37,300 people pushed out. 984 00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:39,760 And like, if you're not going to be a part, then you need to be get out. 985 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,760 Right? 986 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,760 Yes. 987 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,760 Some case, yes, destroy. 988 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,340 But once again, he defends the cause of the fatherless. 989 00:39:44,340 --> 00:39:49,360 He takes care of the widow and loves the foreigner residing with you. 990 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,840 Remember when we did the love your neighbor as yourself, right? 991 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,600 There's this whole chapter of all these things that like, Hey, these people are going to 992 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,600 do this. 993 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,600 Don't do that. 994 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,600 They're going to do this. 995 00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,600 Don't do that. 996 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,520 They're going to do this, but you need to love them like they're your brother. 997 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,520 Yeah. 998 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,680 Right. 999 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,440 There's a much different thing that I'm going to tolerate somebody to. 1000 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,400 I'm going to love somebody who I actively disagree with. 1001 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,460 Right. 1002 00:40:11,460 --> 00:40:13,880 And I'm not going to allow myself to be changed by them. 1003 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,880 Yeah. 1004 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,080 But I am in fact going to love them enough to see God change them. 1005 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,080 Amen. 1006 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,080 Right. 1007 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,560 Once again, it's, it's God who does it all. 1008 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,560 Right. 1009 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,560 Even here. 1010 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,040 He says, your ancestors who went down into Egypt were 70 and all. 1011 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,840 And now Lord your God has made you as numerous as the stars in the sky. 1012 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,800 Like now, of course you have to participate to get numerous, but God is the one who multiplied 1013 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,480 them over and over and over again. 1014 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,480 Yeah. 1015 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,480 Right. 1016 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,840 He was the one who's bringing, bringing blessing because once again, he said, if you follow 1017 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,360 my, my blessing, you're, you're not going to be without children. 1018 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,360 Yeah. 1019 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,040 You're not going to struggle with your fields. 1020 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,080 You're not going to struggle with your livelihood. 1021 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,360 You're going to actually put on display the kingdom of God. 1022 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,120 Like this is the goal into your point of utterly destroy. 1023 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,000 Egypt was actually a fairly thriving nation from this point on all the way up to the Roman 1024 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,520 empire. 1025 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,240 It was, it was the Roman empire who really knocked them down a huge peg. 1026 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:10,720 God, even in the works of getting Israel out of Egypt. 1027 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:13,880 Yes, he performed miraculous signs. 1028 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:19,000 He leveled Egypt and many fronts, but they were not completely wiped out and there was 1029 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,480 still an invitation. 1030 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,480 Yeah. 1031 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,160 And it's actually interesting in Egypt, how quickly the gospel spread there. 1032 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,160 Right. 1033 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,000 Like, it's almost like they had some experience. 1034 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,760 They're like, Oh, that God's back. 1035 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,760 Right. 1036 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,760 That guy. 1037 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,760 Yeah. 1038 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:33,760 We absolutely want to follow him. 1039 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,760 Yeah. 1040 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,760 You know what I mean? 1041 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,760 Oh man. 1042 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,760 So good. 1043 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,640 So then wrapping out today's episode, we're going to be jumping into chapter 11. 1044 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,640 Yeah. 1045 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,640 Right. 1046 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,640 So this idea like God is, God is campaigning for those who are on the outside. 1047 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,240 He takes care of the widow, the orphan. 1048 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:51,080 He's going to take care of the foreigner and this is who you're called to be. 1049 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,480 It's all done by God's hands. 1050 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,640 So man, re member, this is a reoccurring thing in do it on me. 1051 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,280 I mean, I probably go look and see how many times he says, remember, but it's a lot. 1052 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,280 It's a lot. 1053 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,440 He says, remember God's ways. 1054 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,440 Amen. 1055 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,240 Remember that your children didn't see these things because he's talking to both the people 1056 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:11,160 who are going to go in and the people who are dying in the desert. 1057 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,160 Right? 1058 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,440 Like your children didn't necessarily see what happened in Egypt. 1059 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:19,840 So you need to tell the stories by the way, parents, churches, you need to tell the victories 1060 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,320 of Jesus over and over again. 1061 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,280 So people know what God's been doing in your life and you need to own up to the failures 1062 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,280 and over to the failures. 1063 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,280 Right. 1064 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,880 Can you imagine if you raised a whole generation that didn't know about the golden calf just 1065 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,680 to doom them, to repeat it? 1066 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,680 I mean, that'd be catastrophic. 1067 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,680 Wouldn't it? 1068 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,680 Yeah. 1069 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,680 Yeah. 1070 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,520 So you need to remember the signs against Egypt. 1071 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,240 You need to remember what happened to Egypt's armies. 1072 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:45,800 You need to remember your time in the wilderness and all the signs and wonders you saw there, 1073 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,640 the cloud leading you by the day. 1074 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,080 You need to remember that you've seen what God can do. 1075 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,280 And then in verse 13, he reiterates the Shema again, making sure that you worship God with 1076 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,840 everything you have. 1077 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,900 And verse 14, I love this by the way, God will provide the rain. 1078 00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:03,880 He will provide the grass. 1079 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,640 Don't bow to other gods, which once again, I want to talk about the Sermon on the Mount, 1080 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,520 which is what we were talking about. 1081 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,000 Does the grass of the field worry about how to grow? 1082 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,000 No. 1083 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,000 Right. 1084 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,680 It just is not worried about how much rain or sunshine it's getting because who's in 1085 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,800 charge of that? 1086 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,800 God. 1087 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:18,800 God is in charge of that. 1088 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:19,800 So they're not worried. 1089 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,840 Like this is a thing of trust and provision. 1090 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,840 God provides the rain. 1091 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,100 He provides the grass. 1092 00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:28,000 So don't go and worship other gods that are claiming to provide that. 1093 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,040 Don't bow to other gods expecting to get what God's already providing. 1094 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:37,800 Now we've talked a couple of times about cheating in relationships, right? 1095 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,760 Most of the time when people cheat, they're looking for something that's actually found 1096 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,400 in their relationship, but they're not actually accessing it. 1097 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,400 Right? 1098 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,400 They're looking for something new. 1099 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,560 They're looking for something exciting. 1100 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,000 I don't know what people are actually looking for, but what they're actually looking for 1101 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,120 is somebody to partner with in their life and it's already found in your spouse. 1102 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,120 Yeah. 1103 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,120 Right. 1104 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,360 When people go from, man, this is a hot button topic and we'll see if I get some mail on 1105 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,360 this. 1106 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,520 When people go from church to church looking for greener pastures, right? 1107 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,960 Now there is legitimate reasons to go from church to church. 1108 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,960 Oh yes. 1109 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:10,960 Right? 1110 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,960 You're looking to see where God is putting you. 1111 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:12,960 Yes. 1112 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,600 But you hear a teaching that one teaching you don't like and you're like, well, if they 1113 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,720 don't step back from that, I just can't partner with them. 1114 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:23,280 Listen, if that was the case, I can go to a lot of churches because there's always going 1115 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,680 to be somebody who says something that I don't like. 1116 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:31,760 I've like the last couple of years I have started when I get coffee with people or whatnot 1117 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,360 and they want to talk about the Bible, I always start the conversation with here's the deal. 1118 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,320 We're not going to sacrifice who Jesus is. 1119 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,320 Right. 1120 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,400 Son of God lived a sinless life, died on the cross, laid dead for three days, rose again 1121 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,200 so sins can be forgiven and we can be restored unto God. 1122 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,200 Right? 1123 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,560 We're not going to sacrifice that. 1124 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:49,560 And then I go, okay. 1125 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,960 I was like, we can disagree on a whole lot of other things. 1126 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,040 Okay. 1127 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,880 As long as we don't sacrifice that we can disagree on those things and we can still 1128 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,880 work together. 1129 00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,880 Exactly. 1130 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,160 We can still be family together. 1131 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:06,000 One, and a lot of times you're going to try to find in another church what, where the 1132 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,680 issue is actually you, you're not accessing what that church has to offer. 1133 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:10,680 Yeah. 1134 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:11,680 Right. 1135 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,080 You said something a couple of weeks ago where you're talking about sometimes you go to a 1136 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,560 church because you're like, oh, it's not giving me what I need is like, well, maybe you're 1137 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,560 not actually giving into and that's your issue. 1138 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,560 Yeah. 1139 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,200 You're not actually feeding into what's going on there. 1140 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,680 Really quick here, a side note, and this is one of those things where maybe I'm just priming 1141 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,160 the pumps for Q and a, right? 1142 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,200 Verse 17, he talks about shutting up the sky. 1143 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:36,160 That actually is the verse that Elijah quotes when he comes to a have, and he says that 1144 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,200 it's not going to rain. 1145 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,200 Right? 1146 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,280 That's actually the diversity quotes because God is going to shut up the heavens if you 1147 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,800 don't follow his laws. 1148 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:45,800 Yeah. 1149 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:46,800 Right. 1150 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,380 Which is a very fun conversation about whether Elijah was actually operating in the word 1151 00:45:50,380 --> 00:45:57,200 of God or not, or whether he in his zeal, like the spear did something and got honored 1152 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,080 it and brought good out of it regardless. 1153 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,240 Ask us sometime when we will have an episode about that. 1154 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:06,960 That's like, I'll just, that's like a teaser and they're like, wait, what is he talking 1155 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,960 about? 1156 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,960 I'll be fine. 1157 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:09,960 Yeah, that'll be fun. 1158 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,840 So I want to close with this piece because I think this is really good because he, he 1159 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:19,800 closes in the backend of the, of the chapter 11 about keeping the word of God, the law, 1160 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,880 these instructions on your mind. 1161 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,000 But I want you to think beyond Torah. 1162 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:29,320 I want you to think of the entire word of God, the gospels, the old new Testament together. 1163 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,320 Right? 1164 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,320 Yeah. 1165 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,360 He says to bind it to your mind symbols on your forehead. 1166 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:40,000 You teach your children, you talk about it when you rise, when you sit, when you come, 1167 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,680 when you go, when you lay down, when you get up, you let the word have control in your 1168 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,360 life and you remember. 1169 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,360 Right? 1170 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,600 Like this is really crucial. 1171 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,560 One of the things that I struggle with sometimes when I have conversations with people who 1172 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,880 have very pointed theological perspectives is I asked them about like, well, how much 1173 00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,880 do you read the Bible? 1174 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,680 And they're like, Oh, I read the Bible all the time. 1175 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:09,000 And then I hear them talk and I'm like, it's very clear that you haven't though. 1176 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,000 You know what I mean? 1177 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,560 I don't want to throw anybody under the bus, but this is like pastors. 1178 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,560 This is teachers. 1179 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,640 Like there are some people who like we're talking about Torah and they barely understand 1180 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,640 the stories. 1181 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,000 They're like, I referenced a story once and they're like, well, where is that? 1182 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,880 I was like, it's in numbers. 1183 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,920 Like it's a pretty big story in numbers, right? 1184 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,880 It's a pretty important story. 1185 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:33,000 And that's not to throw anybody under the bus, but more to point out, like when the 1186 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:39,720 word is not bound to your heart and your mind and in you and through you, it's really easy 1187 00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:42,000 to develop weird ideas. 1188 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,480 So the Bible doesn't tell us to know scripture. 1189 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,200 It tells us to meditate on it day and night. 1190 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,280 Like, those are two very different things. 1191 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,720 You can like, you can know a lot about a subject. 1192 00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:55,720 Right? 1193 00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:57,040 We're both kind of nerds. 1194 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,800 I love Star Wars. 1195 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,440 I know a lot more about Star Wars than I should. 1196 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,440 Okay. 1197 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:03,440 But that's just knowledge. 1198 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,440 Yeah. 1199 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,440 Right. 1200 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,480 The Bible, like scripture is actually teaching us to meditate on that day and night to have 1201 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,400 that penetrate us so deeply that we live it out. 1202 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,400 Yeah. 1203 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,080 By the way, he's quoting from Psalms and the word is a Ga, which is actually the sound 1204 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,520 that a lion makes when it growls over its food. 1205 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,520 Yeah. 1206 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,560 So back to the Star Wars analogy, I'm not living Star Wars out. 1207 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,520 I'm not walking around with a Jedi robe and a toy lightsaber. 1208 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:27,520 Right? 1209 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,360 He says that, but he totally is. 1210 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,800 Trying to move things with my mind. 1211 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:32,800 Right? 1212 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,680 But with scripture, what we're supposed to do is we're supposed to have that be so evident 1213 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,400 in our life because we meditate on it day and night. 1214 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,200 It permeates who we are that we can't help but live it out. 1215 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,200 Right. 1216 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,320 And so when we struggle with the idea of like, Oh man, how do I live it out? 1217 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:51,480 I was like, you need to let this permeate in your life so deeply that you can't help 1218 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,480 but live it out. 1219 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,680 And I, so I was having a conversation the other day and they were just like, man, I'm 1220 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,400 like, it's just, they were talking about struggle that they had. 1221 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,440 What it came down to is like, man, you just need to rest in the Lord. 1222 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,440 Right? 1223 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,440 Like just sit there. 1224 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,440 Right. 1225 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,200 Just rest on the Lord. 1226 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,360 Like let scripture permeate your life. 1227 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,920 There's one day out of the week, you're supposed to just rest. 1228 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,920 Yeah. 1229 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,280 Let it permeate your life. 1230 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,200 Like I'm going to throw an unpopular opinion out there. 1231 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,200 I'm ready. 1232 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,200 I'm going to get out of the park. 1233 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,200 All right. 1234 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,200 You ready? 1235 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,200 Okay. 1236 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,200 You don't need to read your Bible every day. 1237 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,200 Yeah. 1238 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,200 I would agree with that. 1239 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,200 Yeah. 1240 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,800 You need to like, you need to know the word and have it permeate, permeate your life. 1241 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:38,040 If you know the word, you can regurgitate it and you can bring it back up and you can 1242 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,840 taste it again. 1243 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:41,840 Such a gross analogy. 1244 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:42,920 I love it. 1245 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,520 But no, like to your point is like, no, I would say that if you're not familiar with 1246 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,160 the Bible, you should be reading every day. 1247 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,160 Yeah. 1248 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,000 Like, cause you need to have these things, they're a natural part of you. 1249 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,480 And I think it's a good discipline to continue to read the Bible. 1250 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,480 A hundred percent. 1251 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,280 Find things that you're never gonna not discounting that. 1252 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,280 Right. 1253 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:02,920 But, but to your point is you should be meditating and letting the word change you on a daily 1254 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:03,920 basis. 1255 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,160 Reading it just for the sake of reading it isn't actually a solution. 1256 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,160 No. 1257 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,160 We talked about this. 1258 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,840 We've said this a bunch of times on the podcast. 1259 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:17,400 Orthodoxy, in other words, what you believe only matters if it changes your orthopraxy, 1260 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,400 what you do. 1261 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,400 Right? 1262 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:24,160 Like what you believe is actually demonstrated by what you do. 1263 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,880 We talked about the chair and like how I'm always a little wary of chairs. 1264 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:32,480 Now my faith in chairs is demonstrated by the fact that I sit in them and my continued 1265 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,160 faith in chairs is demonstrated by the fact that I sit in them after they've broken on 1266 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,280 me. 1267 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,480 Not the same ones, but like different ones. 1268 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:40,480 Right? 1269 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,040 Like my faith in chairs is not shaken because one broke. 1270 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,040 Some of us have some theologies that we need to put our full weight on and if they break, 1271 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,920 we need to toss them away because they're not a good chair. 1272 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:50,920 Yeah. 1273 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:51,920 Amen. 1274 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:52,920 They're not a good chair. 1275 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,920 Amen. 1276 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,320 And if you put it on your, on your forehead, write it on your doorpost, talk about it when 1277 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,800 you're coming, talk about it when you're going. 1278 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,280 It's permeated inside of you. 1279 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,240 You hug the word on a regular basis. 1280 00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:06,920 You're going to be able to spot these things that aren't actually feeding into the narrative 1281 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,080 of who God is and what he wants in our life. 1282 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,080 Amen. 1283 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,880 And the last thing the Moses says is this, I am sitting before you a choice and it's 1284 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,520 going to come up a couple of times in this book. 1285 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,960 So I'm just going to bring it up the first time here. 1286 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,960 One that is a blessing. 1287 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:25,680 If you're going to follow these things that God's asked you to do and the other is a curse, 1288 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,120 what are you going to do? 1289 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,120 Yeah. 1290 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:33,800 And I think each morning when we get up and we choose to follow after Jesus or not, we 1291 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:34,800 have the same choice. 1292 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:35,800 Yeah. 1293 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:41,800 Are we going to pursue blessing not for us, but through us, or are we going to live in 1294 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,720 into a curse? 1295 00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:48,160 I would postulate that there's a way that brings about redemption of mankind and it's 1296 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,160 not the curse. 1297 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,160 Yeah. 1298 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,160 Yeah. 1299 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,760 I think that's where we're going to end today. 1300 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,880 So thank you for watching, listening, all of that. 1301 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,720 If you want to find us, if you're new and you're like, I want to find you guys other 1302 00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:06,920 places, Apple, Spotify, Amazon music or Amazon podcast, sorry, YouTube. 1303 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,640 If you're a 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00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,400 Next two weeks. 1317 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,160 We're going to have a guest because part of the unscripted conversation is we want to 1318 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,640 make sure that we're getting a diverse voice in here. 1319 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:45,840 And you've heard a lot of us. 1320 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,600 So our guests will be pastor Sarah Harney, Sarah Hart. 1321 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,520 We love Sarah. 1322 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,480 So we're going to play a game now next week. 1323 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,480 Yeah. 1324 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:55,480 Get ready for it. 1325 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,480 Okay. 1326 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,480 Yeah, we'll play a game and here's how the game goes. 1327 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,480 I'm just going to explain it to you. 1328 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,680 So every time she hangs out with Ben and I gives us the mom look all the time. 1329 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,680 She's got like 5,000 children. 1330 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,080 So that's probably why. 1331 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,520 Yeah, it's five, but you know, but she gives us the mom look all the time because we'll 1332 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,600 say something and then she'll just be like, yeah. 1333 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,680 And then we just laugh. 1334 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,440 And so you might see that a few times. 1335 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,660 You might, you might. 1336 00:53:17,660 --> 00:53:22,400 But Sarah is a faithful follower of Jesus and we really wanted to invite her in to just 1337 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,080 talk about areas of worship. 1338 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,080 Yeah. 1339 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,640 I wonder if there's going to be a connection to John and this woman at the well. 1340 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:28,640 We'll find out. 1341 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,640 Maybe. 1342 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,640 All right. 1343 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:31,640 Thanks for being here. 1344 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:32,640 Bye. 1345 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,480 That's a wrap for today's episode. 1346 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:40,640 We want to extend a heartfelt thank you for tuning in and spending your valuable time 1347 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:41,640 with us. 1348 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:47,320 We hope that you found today's conversation insightful and that you take something meaningful 1349 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,320 from it. 1350 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,120 If you have questions or comments, we would love to hear from you. 1351 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:58,720 Reach out to us at love and context at gmail.com and we will be sure to get back to you. 1352 00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:03,640 Remember you can always engage with our content on all your favorite listening platforms, 1353 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,400 including Apple, Spotify, Amazon, YouTube, and one. 1354 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,920 Don't forget to follow us on social media at love and context on Instagram and Facebook 1355 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:13,920 for updates. 1356 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,360 That is a, that is a matter of opinion and mine is the only one that's being expressed 1357 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:19,360 on this podcast. 1358 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,360 Are you ready? 1359 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,360 Yes. 1360 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,360 I'm not ready. 1361 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,320 I'm not ready. 1362 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:32,840 Cause a lot of time and a lot of times we work in, I'm just going to give you lots of 1363 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:33,840 editing. 1364 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:34,840 Okay. 1365 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,800 So Ben edit, edit, edit. 1366 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,240 I'm looking at you right there. 1367 00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:40,680 I know you're looking at me. 1368 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,440 Side note, we're 32 minutes in and we haven't even got out of seven. 1369 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,240 That God has been working with you do a working with, oh my word. 1370 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:49,240 You can read. 1371 00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:51,480 It's a long week away. 1372 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,160 I can't, I don't, you're being sarcastic, but I'm, I'm, my brain is not brain. 1373 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,200 So once again, we love having you here. 1374 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,400 That's a weird thing to say. 1375 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:23,040 So once again,