1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:06,600 Welcome to the love and context podcast engaging in unscripted conversations with your hosts Ben and Spencer 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:13,600 Whether you're tuning in from your car your office your home or anywhere in between we are so happy to have you join us today 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:20,120 Our mission is simple to explore the Bible through a powerful lens of love 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:28,600 Together will uncover fresh insights and gain deeper understandings of how we can love God and love the people in our everyday lives 5 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:34,080 So buckle up and join us on the spiritual journey as we discover timeless wisdom 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:41,460 That is just as relevant today as it was thousands of years ago without further ado. Let's dive right in 7 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,960 Welcome to the love and context podcast if you are on YouTube 8 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,000 You might be seeing us right now 9 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,600 And if you're not on YouTube you can go to YouTube and you can see us and apologies 10 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,440 But do they really want to see yeah, that's the quest there's a very good question 11 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,600 so this is something we had a couple people talking about and we're like, hey world try it and 12 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,800 If you really enjoy listening to the podcast, it's still gonna be available in audio form 13 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,800 But on YouTube, we're just gonna put up a video form 14 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,560 we'll see how that works if you tune in and you're gonna be like I 15 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,880 Know when Ben recorded this because if he's wearing a button-up shirt 16 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:21,880 It was probably during the work week. Uh-huh. And if I'm wearing a hat and a sweatshirt, it was probably during the weekend. I 17 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Just look like this all the time. That should be a lot of fun 18 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:31,560 All right, so we are continuing on in the book of numbers. Yes, we are and actually before we get to that 19 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,680 We had a couple of people send me an email or just commented to me and I need to clean up a couple of mistakes 20 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:44,160 Yes, you do. Yes couple mistakes. So turns out that if you eat pig you don't get botulism you get trigonosis 21 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,320 Yes. Yeah, so that is a I warned everybody. I'm not a doctor. Well 22 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,780 He should we were in Alaska. He should know this because it's same if you bear you get trigonosis 23 00:01:53,780 --> 00:01:54,820 Yes 24 00:01:54,820 --> 00:01:56,820 Yes, cuz I eat a lot of bear 25 00:01:57,940 --> 00:02:00,100 Just bear with me. That's terrible fun. I 26 00:02:00,980 --> 00:02:06,320 Should know those things but I don't yeah also can we just be honest botulism is a way funner word to say than trigonosis 27 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,220 It is yeah 28 00:02:07,220 --> 00:02:12,380 It's a way more fun where it is. The other thing we were talking about is at the end of chapter 11 29 00:02:12,380 --> 00:02:14,860 So this is the last episode we recorded with pastor Nick 30 00:02:15,060 --> 00:02:20,380 There's this interesting thing where a guy gets ticked off with them and he comes after them because something to do with the meat 31 00:02:20,380 --> 00:02:23,020 This is while the meat is still in their mouth. He he brought a plague, right? 32 00:02:23,020 --> 00:02:28,180 Yeah, and the question we didn't address it we moved past it because it wasn't part of our conversation at that point 33 00:02:28,420 --> 00:02:36,140 It's actually really interesting that this whole story with the quail and the manna and like this whole like 72 and like all these things 34 00:02:36,140 --> 00:02:38,740 Are mirrored back earlier in the book of Exodus. Yeah 35 00:02:38,860 --> 00:02:43,620 We saw that God provides the meat for them to eat and it's more meat than they can handle 36 00:02:43,860 --> 00:02:48,500 But in this narrative Moses has been like, okay God, but can you handle it? 37 00:02:49,020 --> 00:02:52,900 There's six hundred thousand people. Can you really get us enough meat for everybody? 38 00:02:52,900 --> 00:02:58,820 Of course, that's a bad question for God because of course he can he literally parts the sea so you can walk through and dry land 39 00:02:58,820 --> 00:03:00,100 but apparently 40 00:03:00,100 --> 00:03:05,420 Meats too hard to handle literally took out the most powerful nation in the world to free you 41 00:03:06,140 --> 00:03:12,220 Exactly. So it's interesting because if you actually look and like why has got ticked off at the end of this because they're actually eating meat 42 00:03:12,260 --> 00:03:17,700 It actually says a verse 32. No one gathered less than 10 omers 43 00:03:18,660 --> 00:03:22,520 That's interesting because each day they're actually supposed to only gather one omber for bread 44 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,580 Yeah, but nobody gathered less than 10. Mm-hmm 45 00:03:26,580 --> 00:03:33,260 And then it also says that they spread the quail over the entire camp. So it's like right in God's face 46 00:03:33,260 --> 00:03:38,300 It's a story of mistrust once again, okay the meat's out here, but is that gonna be able to sustain the meat? 47 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:42,580 Yeah, which I mean, I think it's actually very familiar in the church is where okay 48 00:03:42,580 --> 00:03:45,180 We have the blessing of God, but will the blessing of God last? 49 00:03:45,900 --> 00:03:50,120 That's a very common concern for people because they don't know how to live in the blessing 50 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:56,020 Mm-hmm. Yeah, they don't know how to walk where there's always enough. Yeah, but maybe not an abundance but always enough 51 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:03,520 Yeah, and I think maybe the tendency especially as American Christians is that we want to gather more than enough and we rely on our resources 52 00:04:04,580 --> 00:04:07,120 Rather than on what God provides. Yeah, absolutely 53 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:14,780 So the people even though there's an there's additional leadership at this point, they're still stuck with this distrust grumbling state 54 00:04:14,780 --> 00:04:17,640 They don't trust God in the desert despite what he's done for them 55 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,900 And they actually named the place kibra Hattava that just rolls off the tongue 56 00:04:21,900 --> 00:04:26,960 Yeah, which actually means graves of lust not a great name for a place, right? 57 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,280 So that actually brings us to the story that we're actually gonna be coming into today 58 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:38,640 So remember last time we just talked about there's 72 elders 70 or 72 depending on how you read read that 59 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,400 That God takes the spirit off of Moses and now he puts it on the 72 60 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,600 Mm-hmm. So God has taken the spirit off of Moses and he's placed it on the other 72 61 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,440 They've prophesied but they don't continue to prophesy and Moses makes that statement which we talked about a lot 62 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,360 It would be great if everybody had this year like I have it 63 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,000 Yes, right, which is just really demonstrating the heart of Moses now 64 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:05,340 immediately after 72 elders now being imbued with authority, huh chapter 12 opens with this 65 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:11,980 Miriam and Aaron began to talk against Moses because of his Kushite wife for he had married a Kushite 66 00:05:11,980 --> 00:05:13,980 Okay 67 00:05:15,980 --> 00:05:17,980 Let's just take a step back 68 00:05:18,780 --> 00:05:26,280 Have you ever been in a church where people are unhappy with the leadership or they're unhappy with their position or they're unhappy with a leader 69 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:31,600 And so rather than actually coming out and talking about the leader they like pick on something innocuous. I 70 00:05:32,380 --> 00:05:39,100 Can't relate to that at all. There you can't right? It's just it's you're talking about. Oh, he has a Kushite wife 71 00:05:39,660 --> 00:05:41,300 Yeah, I 72 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:46,460 Think you actually have told me that story about you and your dad your dad's story about the car that he owned 73 00:05:46,460 --> 00:05:51,420 Oh, yeah, he was praying for a car and he was gifted like a basically brand new car 74 00:05:51,420 --> 00:05:56,200 It was like a year or two old very low mileage and then he's had people being like you're in ministry 75 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,940 Why do you own such a nice car? 76 00:05:57,940 --> 00:06:03,340 I'm not understanding the context of it at all that he was praying for a new car because he needed a different car and 77 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:09,400 He was gifted the exact thing the Lord provided the exact thing he needed 78 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,440 Which it's always good to pause here and say it's okay for ministers to have nice cars 79 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:21,620 Uh-huh. And in fact, it's okay for people to have money. It's not okay for their money to run them. Yes. Yeah, yeah and 80 00:06:23,420 --> 00:06:27,460 I've just been chuckling at this whole thing cuz it's a hey, let's pick on Moses as a wife 81 00:06:27,660 --> 00:06:32,160 Yeah, like I that's cuz they've picked on Moses before and it didn't end well for them. Yeah 82 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:37,300 Yeah, they're like picking on Moses isn't gonna work. So let's pick on as a wife. Let's try to spread some rumors 83 00:06:37,300 --> 00:06:42,140 Let's try to do something that's not helpful here. The relatability to the church nowadays is 84 00:06:42,740 --> 00:06:48,180 crazy on that because we I know a lot of people where they just want to find what is wrong 85 00:06:48,180 --> 00:06:52,500 Mm-hmm. And so if something is going really well, then they start complaining about oh 86 00:06:52,940 --> 00:06:56,060 These walls in this building aren't painted the exact color 87 00:06:56,060 --> 00:07:00,900 I want it's actually a sign that you're probably doing a lot of things really well if that's the only complaints they have 88 00:07:00,940 --> 00:07:04,260 Yeah, if you're in leadership if you're sitting there and you're like, okay 89 00:07:04,260 --> 00:07:10,400 The complaints are very minimal or minor or not a big deal or like things that really shouldn't matter 90 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,520 You're probably doing things pretty well not to mention is starts to really reveal like people's real hard issues 91 00:07:15,580 --> 00:07:19,060 Yes, if you're being real petty about like wall colors. Mm-hmm 92 00:07:19,060 --> 00:07:22,020 This is a lot more about you than it does about the color that you're making the church 93 00:07:22,020 --> 00:07:28,540 Oh, this was years and years ago, but I was I was at a church just visiting and 94 00:07:28,540 --> 00:07:35,100 A lady like pulled the pastoral team aside after church and I was like, okay, she probably has some very big that she wants to 95 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:40,740 Bring up and she went on this whole rant about how they have placed the coffee service in the church in the wrong location 96 00:07:40,740 --> 00:07:45,500 And that just disrupts the whole flow of everything that's going on Sunday morning. It's terrible 97 00:07:45,940 --> 00:07:50,740 Sacrilegious to the kingdom of God which I two things like either one this church is actually doing things really well to her 98 00:07:50,740 --> 00:07:53,160 That's the biggest complaint or two 99 00:07:53,160 --> 00:08:00,000 They have some people in the church that have some issues like that of just finding what is wrong and trying to exploit them 100 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,640 Yeah, it's interesting coming back to a conversation 101 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:08,080 We had a couple weeks ago is it's way more conducive to the kingdom of God to be the kind of person who looks to see 102 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,880 What's right in somebody's life? Yeah. Yeah, we were talking about how when you know somebody long enough 103 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,600 They're gonna say something that is borderline heretical. Mm-hmm 104 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,800 And so instead of jumping on everything that they might say incorrectly, we're trying to find the good in them and build that up 105 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,160 Yeah, if you've been blessed with the opportunity to preach and teach you're going to preach heresy at some point 106 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,160 Yeah, not intentionally, but you're going to do it. Yeah and 107 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,560 Trust me having spoken from the pulpit you will say something silly and definitely not what you meant 108 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:38,160 In fact, there is a great clip that I pulled from last week's sermon of our pastor 109 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,000 and I'll tell you about it later because it's not necessarily appropriate to throw out here and 110 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,960 It's gonna disappear before you get to the podcast version of our church. Yeah, but it's it was pretty great. That's awesome 111 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,960 Yeah, so some people are like, oh my god 112 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,880 Yeah, so maybe Miriam and Aaron are feeling intimidated 113 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,240 Maybe they're feeling left out and but I do think it's interesting that to know that in the text here 114 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,800 What happens up happening in numbers by the way, we stopped didn't say this. This is numbers 12 through 18 115 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,960 Mm-hmm get your Bible out read it 116 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,440 We're gonna assume that you've been through this so that you kind of understand where we're going with this 117 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,040 Yeah, I think it's interesting here that Moses doesn't actually deal with the 118 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Complaint God deals with it directly 119 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:16,300 Yeah 120 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:20,520 They grumble about Moses, but God actually answers on behalf of Moses and I want to point this out 121 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,740 Because later in a story probably coming up next week 122 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:26,560 Moses answers on behalf of God 123 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:32,680 Not the other way around and it gets him into trouble and one thing to note too on this little part right here 124 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:38,560 It's not the people who are complaining. It says Miriam and Aaron begin to talk against 125 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:44,400 Moses because of his kushra wife the people have been complaining plenty and they're gonna continue to play complain plenty 126 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,400 But in this story, it's actually the leadership 127 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:46,900 Yeah 128 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:54,680 Which also goes to show goes to kind of reinforce you that if you have a grumbling that is occurring in your fellowship 129 00:09:54,680 --> 00:10:00,560 Mm-hmm. It doesn't go away. No, you had to deal with that. Yeah, God answers. He takes care of and he actually 130 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,920 Gives Miriam a skin disease something that looks like leprosy 131 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,760 She gets a skin disease or if any of you have been there at the birth of your child 132 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,840 Mother's probably definitely there. They were not birthed via c-section 133 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:17,280 There's like this white film that is like on their body. It's a really good like moisturizer 134 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,240 It's it's basically like one of the best nutrients you can get and it's really good for baby skin 135 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,680 But it makes them look kind of weird when they first come out 136 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:25,040 Yeah, you don't you don't clean it off 137 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,920 You want it to stay on their body for a little bit because they actually Aaron comments is it looks like a baby skin 138 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,520 So it makes sense. That's what it looks like. So skin disease. It looks something like that 139 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:39,160 Uh-huh, and it's interesting that Miriam actually doesn't complain. It's actually Aaron that says hey 140 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,360 This is unintentional and disease is coming Miriam actually doesn't say anything. She doesn't complain 141 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,960 She doesn't bring up words nothing, but Aaron brings it up and asks for mercy 142 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:52,560 And so then Moses prays to God and then God ultimately relents but says that she has to sit outside the fellowship for seven days 143 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:53,880 Mm-hmm. All right 144 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:59,160 So it's normally something like being unclean and so he's more driving home the point that it wasn't okay 145 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:04,560 It's not okay to complain and to be smirked the people that God puts into leadership 146 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:10,040 Mm-hmm. And also a thing to note is Aaron and Miriam were not removed from leadership, correct? 147 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:15,560 Correct because of this. Nope. They stay in their positions like the issue was dealt with. Yeah, there was some contention 148 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:21,480 There's some strife from amongst the leadership team for the Israelites and the issue was dealt with by God 149 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:27,760 Are you insinuating that we could learn a lot about leadership and running a church from the Bible? Not at all 150 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,160 Seems crazy. I'm not insinuating. I'm saying that 151 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,120 I'm saying that very directly so it is interesting to note though 152 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,120 That says that they don't go anywhere that all the people actually wait until Miriam is back 153 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,320 Yeah before they go anywhere because they're not going super far in the desert 154 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,760 They could have just left her and kept wandering but they're like, nope 155 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,080 We're gonna wait until Miriam's better 156 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:51,120 So then we did tell you guys to buckle up because it just starts to get progressively worse through this section of scripture 157 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,880 So then they send the spies out to go and look at the land one from each of the tribe and they're they're asking me to 158 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,600 Do things like they want to see what the land is like. What are the people doing? 159 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,880 They want to see what the land is like. What are the people like? What is the soil like? Are they strong? 160 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:09,000 Are they weak? Do they have houses? Do they have walls like what does this land actually look like? So for your business people? 161 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,360 They're like hey go do your market research. Yeah, exactly. Go do your research 162 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,160 You're gonna start selling a product in this area 163 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,760 Go see if that's actually a needed product and adjust your plan accordingly 164 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:23,360 Exactly. So they go they take one person from each tribe and they send 12 out and they all go and they take a look and 165 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,200 They bring back grapes. They bring back pomegranates. They bring back figs 166 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:32,160 By the way, I want you to note the pomegranate figs and grapes because it's gonna come up later in another story 167 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,560 Mm-hmm, they return after 40 days. So this isn't like a 168 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,760 Quick overnight look like they've been there for a while. They've been 169 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,600 Searching out the land looking at the cities checking out the people 170 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:48,520 Yeah, and I think it's interesting here that they actually come back and they say yeah, the land is exactly like God promised us 171 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,560 Looks exactly like God promised us 172 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,240 Yeah, but 173 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,240 The people are huge 174 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,400 Now this is the first time you guys have gone to see me on video 175 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,520 I am 6'6 and I am just as big as I look on that camera 176 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,200 Spencer is not a small man, but he looks small when he sits next to me 177 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:11,960 Mm-hmm. He is a he is on the larger side of human a spectrum. Yeah, but what the people say they said 178 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,760 Yeah, the land is exactly what God told us it was going to be 179 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:19,880 It's not told on there's these massive people who live there. Also, the Amalekites are there 180 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:25,040 You remember those guys that kept coming after our weak people in the desert. They live there and they're big. They're huge 181 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:30,640 We don't like them. And so they're laying like this groundwork of this conversation. Now. I love Caleb's response 182 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:36,000 Uh-huh. He's like, let's go. Let's go. No. All right, we got this and God's going with us 183 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,120 We can do this Caleb is is so fun because even the book of 184 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:46,280 Joshua, uh-huh. He's this old man chasing down giants. Uh-huh. Caleb is like, let's go. Let's go the others though 185 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,120 The other ten and I'm gonna say ten because Joshua is not named in this portion 186 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,920 But Joshua ultimately sides with Caleb that they should go into the land 187 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:59,400 Yeah, but the other ten started thinking that is foolhardy for them to go and so they go and they spread a bad report now 188 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,040 I went in and looked at the Hebrew in this and the word is dibba dibba 189 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,280 Is a dibba report meaning it's whispering. Mm-hmm 190 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,040 Stefanation 191 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,040 It's an evil report 192 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,040 It's this subtle 193 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,040 It's this subtle 194 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,040 Conversation that's happening. It's more like it's more like a gossip mill 195 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:26,120 It's almost like you were complaining about a kushite wife of one of your leaders. Mm-hmm. Yeah 196 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,800 That you're whispering and you're spreading this bad report and you're kind of getting this this grumbling that is going on 197 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:38,200 Yeah, see you have at this point you have the people coming back and they're running to their neighbors. Hey, did you hear? 198 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,680 Did you hear? Yeah the land over there 199 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:46,600 There's giants over there. They're gonna kick our rear ends if we enter in there and we're gonna die 200 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:51,640 And then not only that did you know that there is nephilim those guys from genesis, right? 201 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:56,680 Yeah, those godlike warriors the offspring of angels and and kings 202 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,600 Those guys are there like what chance do we possibly have against them? 203 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:08,200 Yeah, we are just lowly slaves from egypt run away right like this is the mentality and caleb's like we're going 204 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,360 We got this killer doesn't care. He's like he's like god will take care of any of those people 205 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,280 Yeah, so out of that it spreads in the entire community. And so then they all start going 206 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:24,040 Oh, if only we had died in egypt or in the desert, but you brought us here to be slaughtered by the nephilim 207 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,720 You brought us to be slaughtered by the nephilim. Okay 208 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:29,880 Calm down 209 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,480 How many times does god put his face in his hands? 210 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:41,240 Just like face palm like just okay dozens gotta be dozens right at least when he's like you've seen me do all these things 211 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,720 You've seen me rescue you from egypt. You've seen me provide for you in the desert 212 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:53,960 You've seen me provide a shade during the day via cloud and warmth during the night via fire every day every night 213 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,480 You have seen like you have seen the glory of my presence reflected off of moses 214 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:07,080 You're literally eating food from heaven. Yeah, and meat every day. Yeah, and then you get to a land where there's some people who are a little bigger than you 215 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:14,200 And they're like we need to spread a rumor because there's no way we can handle that and not to mention these exact same people had been there when egypt was destroyed 216 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:21,000 Yeah, it's not like they've never seen a superpower destroyed. Yeah, this is not news to them. This is something that they've seen before. Yep 217 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,000 now 218 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Taking a step back 219 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,000 I do want to identify with the story a little bit 220 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,440 Oh, yeah, because I see the victories of god all the time in my life and then I run into a new thing and i'm like, oh no 221 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,520 Uh-huh. Oh no. Uh-huh. This is insurmountable for god. Yeah 222 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,000 Because in the middle of the desert, it's hard to remember that god is sovereign 223 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:41,720 Oh, yeah 224 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,200 So coming out of that god has actually really ticked off 225 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:49,000 He's facepalmed again because there's a statement in there that say we're gonna elect a new leader 226 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,800 And to take us back to egypt 227 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,680 Now, I don't know if they remember how they left egypt, but egypt's not just gonna welcome them back with open arms 228 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,400 No, not to mention egypt is virtually destroyed 229 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:06,840 Yeah, like the amount of destruction that went on in egypt during the 10 plagues was going to take a long time for the egyptians to rebuild 230 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,360 They're wanting to literally go back to slavery 231 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:17,000 Rather than go and take the land that is actually needed and I got to be honest with you. I get it 232 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,400 Yeah, it's really tempting to when you recognize the road that you have to fight through 233 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,880 It is really tempting to want to go back to what's comfortable. Yep, rather than to go into what's promised. Yep 234 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,160 Oh completely and we want to have a ton of compassion with that 235 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,880 But at the same time if you do that, you're gonna end up dying in the desert 236 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:37,240 Or you're gonna live your entire life in slavery. Yeah, god is going to empower you but you have to go. Mm-hmm 237 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,400 Yeah, you have to take the steps you have to take the steps 238 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,120 You have to take the steps you have to take the steps 239 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:49,560 Yeah, you have to take the steps you have to walk in the path that the lord has laid before you 240 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:55,720 When you say you say well ben, that's the old testament. It's like matthew 28 all authority 241 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,640 Jesus speaking in heaven and on earth has been given to me 242 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,640 therefore 243 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,320 Go and make make disciples, right? 244 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:11,480 You still have to go and make disciples all authority has come go and it's not only that 245 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,080 It's also matthew 10 when jesus is sending the 72 out 246 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,960 To go from town to town the proclaiming gospel proclaiming the good news. The messiah is here 247 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:27,960 His like his send-off remarks of like hey, we're commissioning you for ministry to go preach the good news 248 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,040 Not just like being powered but it's also like hey people are gonna hate you 249 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,400 They're gonna throw you in prison. They're gonna try to stone you 250 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:40,040 They're gonna try to kill you all this stuff and then he gets matthew 10 28 and he's like hey 251 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:45,960 But don't fear the ones who can just condemn the body instead fear the one who can condemn both body and soul 252 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,400 In other words, he's saying hey if you're falling after me the worst that's gonna happen is you're gonna die 253 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:55,240 And then even when you die as paul says to live as christ, but to die is actually gain 254 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,320 So when you look at this 255 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,160 Nothing is insurmountable for god, right? We actually leaned into that 256 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:04,360 So much in our communities would change 257 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,160 Yeah 258 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:10,360 And one of the reasons we wanted to pause here and talk about this is because I think sometimes we tend to disassociate what israel 259 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:14,280 Is going through with what we're going through? Yeah, and we'd be like, oh you 260 00:19:14,740 --> 00:19:18,040 Silly israelites didn't you walk through the did through the desert and get fed? 261 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,840 Didn't you walk through the sea on dry land and i'm like didn't you get changed from death to life through jesus christ? 262 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,480 Okay, except for they have is way worse than we do 263 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,480 Yeah, can we can we acknowledge that because we're like like oh you silly israelites 264 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,160 We understand you were brought out of slavery. You were like, oh you're brought out of slavery 265 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,880 I was good. They're actually brought out of everything and now brought into the desert where they didn't know anything how to fully trust god 266 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,200 And they get to another spot where they have to fully trust god and their options are go back in the desert and die 267 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:48,280 Or go move forward and die in their minds. Those are their options and we are over here like oh heavenly father 268 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:53,960 I am persecuted because my hairdresser is out of town and I had to cancel that appointment. It's rough. It's real rough 269 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:58,920 One and not to mention like we just talked about the division of the spirit. Yeah, so the spirit rested 270 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:05,080 On people. Yeah in the new testament the spirit rests in people. Yes. We are now the temple of the holy spirit 271 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,920 Yeah, we carry that temple with us everywhere exactly. I was like so in a lot of ways 272 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:14,440 Uh a lot of the struggles that they have we shouldn't struggle with because now we have a changed nature and empowered by the holy spirit 273 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:19,240 Yep, so we don't want to throw them under a bus because they were operating without the spirit inside of them 274 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,000 Yeah, we want to have compassion with them because it's the same struggle that we go through today 275 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,680 So then god is like, you know what? 276 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:32,600 I'm done with you guys like we'll just i'll just raise up people through moses aron and the people who are being faithful 277 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,920 Uh-huh, and i'll just do it through them. But moses he intercedes. Yeah 278 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,600 Like moses is very similar to what happens on mount sinai 279 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:47,320 Uh-huh moses intercedes and he's like god remember your covenant remember that you are slow to anger abounding in love 280 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,840 And he reminds him of who he is and I think there's also this invitation from god 281 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,360 He's asking moses to remember who he is. Yeah, so god relents and forgives 282 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,880 But he says that no one except joshua and caleb are going to be able to go into the promised land 283 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,720 Everybody else is going to spend 40 years in the desert and they're going to live out there and die out there 284 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,720 And then their kids are going to go take the land 285 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,400 So moses goes and he tells the guys or tells israel this 286 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:16,760 And then they start they're like, oh no, tell you what we'll go take the land now 287 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:21,080 Now that god said we can't do it we'll do it 288 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:28,600 I hear a little bit of my four-year-old. Maybe your five-year-old in there. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah 100 289 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,920 100 there's a number of times where my five-year-old has to face the consequences of her action and she's oh no now 290 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,440 I'll go clean my room 291 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,040 But you're still gonna clean your room, but you're still gonna have the consequences aren't going away. I'm going away 292 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:45,720 Yeah, and so like first scott says go and take the land and they're like, ah, it's too much for you god 293 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,800 And then he's like, okay. Well, you're not gonna 294 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,840 Are you not gonna go into the promised land? I'll grant you your request. Yeah 295 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,880 You're gonna stay in the desert and your kids are gonna go take it and they're like, okay 296 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,560 Now that you said we can't have it. We're gonna go take it moses like guys. No, no, no 297 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,560 No, god is not going to go with you 298 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:05,160 You will go alone and you will get your butts handed to you. Uh-huh. They're like no, no, no, we're gonna go 299 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,240 We're gonna fulfill the promise of god. Well 300 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,240 listen 301 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,120 To god like clearly the issue here is that they're not listening 302 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:18,440 And there's a there's also a very relatable lesson in this as well. A lot of people who are like I am 303 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,680 Fulfilling the work of the lord or I'm fulfilling the promises of god 304 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,080 You have that same attitude, right? Yeah 305 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,160 And then it's like but are you actually walking in the direction he is walking? 306 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,920 Because there's because and what happens is you eventually burn out you fall 307 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,360 And a good one that we talk about frequently on this podcast 308 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:40,280 You're like it's my obligation as a believer to point out the sin and like to 309 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,280 To deal with the sin in other people's lives 310 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,760 and I was like 311 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Yes, you are called to judge 312 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:54,760 But you're also called to love god and love other people first and from that your judgment comes you're also called to examine yourself 313 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,440 Take the plank out of your eye before you take the speck out of your brother's eye 314 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,560 Yeah, right. There's a lot of self examination that takes place before other people's examination 315 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,760 Can we rabbit trail real quick on that? Yep rabbit. All right, great 316 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:12,200 So the self-examination piece before you try to fix somebody else's problem 317 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,560 What that does is that allows you to be like man? 318 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,360 I have issues just like they do and it allows you to approach them 319 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,600 It doesn't mean you're not going to approach them in conversation 320 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:28,920 but it allows you to approach them in conversation with compassion and mercy and grace because you recognize you are in the same position as they 321 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,560 agreed and so 322 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:38,040 When you take down we feel like man, I need to address the color of ben's shirt with him. It's really obnoxious 323 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:41,320 Yes, I need to say ben don't ever wear that color of shirt first 324 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,440 First of all, my mom would agree with you. She hates yellow really that's funny. Yeah, you're welcome ben's mom 325 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,320 First I would need to kind of examine myself and be like, okay 326 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:54,120 Who am I to address the color of ben's shirt when I literally own four of these sweaters? 327 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,240 Same color and everything 328 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,120 Because I don't want to have to think about what clothes i'm wearing 329 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:05,320 I also believe he only owns one pair of pants, but I think it's six pair of the exact same pair of pants. Yeah 330 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,520 My wife laughs at me because she's like you buy like the same color pants and everything 331 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,360 I was like, yeah, because I don't have to think about it. You know the reality though. There's someone on this podcast 332 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,260 That's like I feel you spencer. I feel you. Yeah, exactly 333 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,240 But it leads to a place of self-examination before you have a conversation 334 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,080 Yeah, and I think that it helps you develop this fancy word called empathy 335 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:32,360 Uh-huh. Yeah, like our heart should always be like driven by empathy and understanding like where somebody is and our desire is to help them 336 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:35,560 Be better not to correct them from being wrong and i'm going to say that again 337 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,320 Our desire is to help them be better not to correct them because they're wrong. Yep 338 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:49,480 Mm-hmm. I think most of our correction or our love that we distribute to our brothers in in the modern church in america 339 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,480 I should specify 340 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,840 Is viewed through the lens of you need to be correct rather than I want you closer to god 341 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,120 We need to remember just as we were sinners 342 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,560 And we're redeemed by the work of christ. So are the people around us who say yes to jesus 343 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,640 The people who were sinners who said yes to jesus and they're redeemed by the work of christ 344 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:15,480 And just as we draw closer to christ more of the ickiness of our lives is revealed 345 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,440 Same with the other people around us, right? 346 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,760 So once again in this story 347 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,880 They want to go back and they're like, okay god if you're not going with us, we're still going to go fulfill your promise 348 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,160 And not surprising they get their butts handed to them 349 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,600 Like it is not even a contest because moses doesn't go with them and the ark of the covenant doesn't go with them 350 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,240 So neither thing which also means that the levites probably aren't on board with what's going on. That would be my guess 351 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:45,880 So, you know my kid, you know how she's kind of like she's a stubborn strong. Well, just like her father. Yeah. Yes. Yes 352 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,840 And I say she gets it from her mom, but her mom disagrees, but my kid's very stubborn 353 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:56,520 She's very strong-willed and she's very much like no I got this. I will figure this out. I can do it. I'm like, okay 354 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,120 And you just have to and there's things you just have to let her figure out and then she comes back to you. She's like that was 355 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,360 Stupid I couldn't do that. And I was like, do you want help learning how to do this? 356 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:10,440 No, I got this and then she'll run back outside and then she'll like try to figure it out and then she'll come back in 357 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,240 Cry and be like I can't do it and i'll be like do you want me to help you figure this out? 358 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,960 I can help you I can show you how to do it. No, I can do it 359 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:25,000 Do you I like sense that in this story and and that actually plays really well in because the biggest thing that she needs 360 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,320 In order to figure out how to do life is relationship with you 361 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,840 Yeah, like she needs to walk with you as you instruct her on actually how to do these things correctly 362 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,480 Now right after this section where they get their butts handed to them 363 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,520 There's this there's these these rules these laws that come out and people are like, oh well 364 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,400 God's just instituting more laws to make sure that they don't they don't break things and he's making it more strict now 365 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,600 He's actually giving them laws that are going to help them become the kind of people that don't need to be corrected 366 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,920 Yeah, it's meant to do something in them. So let's take a look at the laws that are that actually come out now 367 00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:00,040 There's a couple of offerings that come out like these these offerings that are meant to do what what offerings do? 368 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,840 They restore relationship. We've talked about this in the offering series 369 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:05,400 Yeah 370 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:11,160 If you understand leviticus and you understand that the purpose of sacrifice and offerings is to restore relationship between god and humanity 371 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,840 You understand that if god says now, hey, these are going to be some new offerings 372 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,840 That's not because he needs more stuff. Yeah, it's because you're far away and you need to be closer 373 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:27,000 Yeah, you are away from where we are actually interacting. It's about reconnecting humanity about restore relationships 374 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,840 And then he gives them offerings for unintentional sins 375 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:36,600 Mm-hmm when you're grumbling and whispering and conniving and then you're like, you know what? We probably shouldn't be doing this. Yeah 376 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,320 Let's just restore that come back to me 377 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,200 And then they have this section where they talk about the sabbath breakers if you break the sabbath now 378 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,200 What's the importance of sabbath? 379 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,800 To remember who god is right and connect you to your identity. He made in the image of god 380 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,680 Yep, it's a day that is set aside. It's holy it's built around like a date night once a week for god 381 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,600 Yeah, and he comes out and I don't want to downplay this whole idea of that 382 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,520 They will kill like the person who breaks a sabbath because I once again we want to get into 383 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,600 Uh tribal language historical context. We've talked about this before 384 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,560 But kill doesn't always necessarily mean kill now in this story. They actually do go out and stone a guy. Yeah 385 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,600 Um, I don't know. That's necessarily the ongoing motif, but it's serious 386 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:26,680 Mm-hmm like you need to once a week remember that you are made for a purpose call back into your identity because that's going to cause 387 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,080 You to be the kind of person who doesn't walk around and complain 388 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,720 Yeah 389 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,600 Now we're doing a sermon on the mount series at the church, right? Yeah, and jesus frequently will make statements 390 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,160 You have heard it said but I say unto you which is rabbinic speak. We've talked about on the podcast 391 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,120 That says you've always heard this but it was always this 392 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,840 Yes, yes do not murder was always supposed to turn you into the kind of person who loves your neighbor 393 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,640 And we're like, how do you get that? I was like think about the contact is being spoken into so right here 394 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,840 Don't break the sabbath or else you're going to get put out of the community 395 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:57,480 Yeah 396 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:03,240 Because we're about remembering relationship with god if you do not understand the fundamental nature of you and god coming together 397 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,440 And stopping and finding your identity in him and not your production 398 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,840 Then you're never going to be able to fulfill the mission of the kingdom. Yeah 399 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,040 Yeah, so good 400 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,000 So that that's the purpose of these laws is going to be given now 401 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,360 We're going to get another section of story and then it's going to happen again. So let's take a look what happens next 402 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,600 so now the levites come up and they say 403 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:32,920 You have gone too far. They say to erin and moses. Okay. Now first of all who instituted the changes? 404 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,560 God so was it moses and erin that went too far? No, who are they judging? 405 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,280 God not a good thing to do 406 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,600 The whole community is holy true 407 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,800 Every one of them true and the lord is with them 408 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,640 true 409 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,640 All of that true. Mm-hmm 410 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,400 Why then do you set yourselves above the lord's assembly? 411 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,720 false 412 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,720 They didn't set themselves above god's assembly 413 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,360 God did god did 414 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,840 Which actually moses then defers to god 415 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,280 He says god will show up the next day and he's going to tell you who's in charge 416 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,280 Yeah, god's actually going to be the one to do this 417 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,280 But he continues and he says makes this statement 418 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,520 He says isn't it enough levites that god has separated you? 419 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,920 From the rest of the community. You're already set apart more. Yeah 420 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,680 You he's brought you to work on the temple and the altar 421 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,640 Don't you realize that it's actually against god that you're complaining you yourselves are set apart 422 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,640 Yeah, you yourselves are the priest who are supposed to teach the entire kingdom how to be priests. Yeah 423 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,440 And yeah, you're complaining about hierarchy. You've been placed in a hierarchy 424 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,800 Uh-huh for instruction not for importance. Yeah 425 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,440 You're not complaining about us. You're actually complaining about god 426 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,440 There's this huge conflict between moses and these guys because he actually like he 427 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,200 He asks some of them to come and they refuse to come and that's when he actually makes a statement 428 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,760 About don't you know that you're being set apart? 429 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,200 They may they make the statement 430 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,960 They say we will not come isn't it enough that you've brought us up out of the land flowing with milk and honey to kill us 431 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,640 in the wilderness 432 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,640 Okay, i'm sorry. What? 433 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:13,240 Do you did you not just read what happened earlier in the chapter moses brings you there and there's 10 people who spread a bad 434 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:19,960 Report. Mm-hmm. Like he didn't stop them from going in no the people started to complain and we're like, oh let's elect a new leader 435 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,120 Take us the opposite way 436 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,000 Now you want to want to lord it over us moreover 437 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,520 You haven't brought us into a land flowing with milk and honey or given us an inheritance of field of vineyards 438 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,840 Do you want to treat these men like slaves said the people who wanted to go back to egypt? 439 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,160 No, we will not come 440 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:42,200 So then moses gets angry and says don't accept their offering because there's this offering to reestablish relationship 441 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,960 Yeah, I have not taken so much of the donkey from them or have been wronged by them 442 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,480 So then moses says to kora you and all your followers are to appear before the lord tomorrow you and they and aaron 443 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,440 Each man to take a censor and put incense in it 250 sensors in all and presented before the lord 444 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,760 You and aaron are to present your sensors also 445 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,400 When kora had gathered all his followers in opposition to them at the entrance of the tent of meeting the glory of the lord 446 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:11,240 Appeared to the entire assembly. That's terrifying. Yes. Okay. The lord said to moses and aaron 447 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,240 Separate yourselves from all this assembly so I can put an end to them all at once 448 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,320 Okay, they got an answer to their question 449 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,960 Now one of the things I want to compliment aaron and moses on it says that they fall face down and cry out 450 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,640 Oh god, the god who gives a breath to all living thing. Will you be angry with the entire assembly for only one man sin? 451 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,780 So then he has a move away from kora dathan and abiram 452 00:32:32,780 --> 00:32:34,780 They're actually taken away by god. You can read the rest of the story 453 00:32:34,780 --> 00:32:40,300 But you hopefully you're seeing this this continued like oh you you didn't let us go into the land 454 00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:42,300 You told us you weren't going to go into the land 455 00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:46,780 I often find when i'm working with people that are struggling to follow god 456 00:32:46,780 --> 00:32:49,260 God gives them an instruction and they don't do it 457 00:32:49,740 --> 00:32:52,300 And then later like when it no longer applies to them 458 00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:56,220 They want to do it and then they're like god said that if I did this then and I was like 459 00:32:56,220 --> 00:32:58,540 Well, he gave me that instruction like two years ago. Yeah 460 00:32:58,540 --> 00:33:02,460 And then they're like god is just not fulfilling his promise. He said if I did this then blah blah blah 461 00:33:02,460 --> 00:33:06,460 It's very clear that you're not in a regular relationship conversation with god. Yeah 462 00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:11,180 And that is being reflected very clearly in the way that you interpret your life through him 463 00:33:11,180 --> 00:33:15,420 Yeah, it's clear to me that what we need to do is reestablish your relationship with god 464 00:33:17,820 --> 00:33:21,660 And so often the relationship with god down to what can I do 465 00:33:23,020 --> 00:33:25,020 Exactly, and it's no 466 00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:29,820 It's not what can you do that's part of it, but a big part of it is also just go sit still 467 00:33:29,820 --> 00:33:35,820 Yeah, and be in fellowship with that. We talked about the several realities see what god is doing and follow. Yeah 468 00:33:35,820 --> 00:33:36,300 Yeah 469 00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:41,020 So right after this story where the story of the censors were a bunch of people like the earth splits open and they get consumed 470 00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:43,820 So you think people would be thinking maybe just calm down a little bit 471 00:33:43,820 --> 00:33:47,820 Yeah, the next day the whole israeli community grumbled against moses and erin you have killed the lord's people. Okay. I'm sorry 472 00:33:48,540 --> 00:33:50,540 I'm sorry 473 00:33:50,540 --> 00:33:55,340 Did they not see the glory of god that appeared and like they were all going to get wiped out? 474 00:33:55,340 --> 00:34:00,940 Uh-huh and moses and erin actually did on their behalf pleaded on their behalf that they wouldn't and so then they they go around 475 00:34:00,940 --> 00:34:01,820 Okay 476 00:34:01,820 --> 00:34:07,500 When the assembly gathered in opposition to moses and erin and turned toward the tent of meeting suddenly the cloud covered it and the glory 477 00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:10,540 The lord appeared. Okay. This is the point where you calm down and beg forgiveness 478 00:34:11,180 --> 00:34:15,100 Uh-huh, then moses and erin went to the front of the tent of meeting god says to moses get away from this assembly 479 00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:17,100 So I can end them at once 480 00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:20,620 And they fell face down once again 481 00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:22,860 erin and moses 482 00:34:22,860 --> 00:34:27,500 Plead on behalf of the people who are rebelling which by the way is just 483 00:34:28,140 --> 00:34:35,420 A great picture for leadership. So take this picture. For example on this you have a whole community 484 00:34:35,980 --> 00:34:39,500 Who is frustrated at you? You're in leadership 485 00:34:40,060 --> 00:34:43,100 For its ministry, whatever goes beyond it. Mm-hmm 486 00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:49,260 Your whole community and everybody's frustrated at you and instead of spreading a bad report or getting mad at them 487 00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:51,980 You go to god and you just plead on their behalf 488 00:34:53,820 --> 00:34:56,620 It's almost like that kind of thing changes the world. Yeah 489 00:34:57,340 --> 00:35:03,420 Definitely 100% of the harder path to go 100% like it is way more difficult to go 490 00:35:03,580 --> 00:35:07,900 Plead on the behalf of people who are badmouthing you than it is to just go badmouthing back 491 00:35:07,900 --> 00:35:15,500 And up to this point like moses and erin could have just been like, okay god do your thing. Yeah, except they still recognize the heart of god 492 00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:18,380 And they recognize their responsibility to the people 493 00:35:19,020 --> 00:35:20,860 And so they plead on their behalf 494 00:35:20,860 --> 00:35:26,380 It is very difficult when people are complaining and whining and and about things that you didn't do 495 00:35:26,380 --> 00:35:31,580 Yeah, like things that aren't your fault to actually go and put god on display in that midst 496 00:35:31,580 --> 00:35:36,060 Like things that aren't your fault to actually go and put god on display in that midst 497 00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:43,740 That's difficult yeah, it is I I out of this story, uh, once again god relents, right 498 00:35:44,540 --> 00:35:47,740 But out of this story god actually is is he says okay 499 00:35:47,740 --> 00:35:51,100 You know what? We're just going to establish this once and for all so he says to moses he says 500 00:35:51,420 --> 00:35:55,740 Speak to the israelites and get 12 staffs one from each of the leaders of their ancestral tribes 501 00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:59,260 And write the name of each man on the staff of levi write erin's name 502 00:35:59,260 --> 00:36:03,420 And place them in the tent meeting in front of the ark of the covenant law where i'll meet you the staff belongs to the man 503 00:36:03,420 --> 00:36:09,180 I choose will sprout and I will rid myself of this constant grumbling against you by the israelites 504 00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:13,980 So they go and they do that and the next day moses entered the tent and saw the erin staff 505 00:36:13,980 --> 00:36:20,700 Which represented the tribe of levi had not only sprouted but had sprouted blossom and produced almonds 506 00:36:21,340 --> 00:36:24,780 And I want to stress almonds because it's going to be important to a story coming up. Yeah 507 00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:28,300 Then moses brought out all the staffs and from the lord's presence to all the israelites 508 00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:30,620 They looked at them and each of the leaders took his own staff 509 00:36:30,940 --> 00:36:36,700 The lord said to moses put back erin staff in front of the ark of the covenant law to be kept as a sign of the rebellious 510 00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:39,820 This will put an end to their grumbling against me so that they will not die 511 00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:46,700 moses did as the lord commanded him then the israelites said we will die we're lost we're all lost anyone who comes near the tabernacle lord 512 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:48,700 Will die are we all going to die? 513 00:36:49,260 --> 00:36:52,940 Okay, now god's just said i'm putting the staff back so you're not going to die 514 00:36:52,940 --> 00:36:57,180 Because the words you're doing but we talked about how jesus uh represents the word of god 515 00:36:57,180 --> 00:37:00,460 And it comes from between the mercy seats and there's the bread of the covenant the 516 00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:06,540 The actual 10 words and now the staff is in there. Yeah all things that jesus represents in his kingdom ministry 517 00:37:08,540 --> 00:37:11,980 This is it this is the authority this is who god has placed in authority 518 00:37:12,620 --> 00:37:17,740 Which then I think translates to jesus very clearly all authority in heaven and earth has been given to me therefore go 519 00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:20,700 He is the budded staff 520 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:25,580 He is the budded staff. Mm-hmm. He is the bread from heaven. He is torah main flesh 521 00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:27,980 Yeah, and god is trying to tell his people he's like listen 522 00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:33,580 These are the people that I have set up into authority now. This wouldn't be much of an issue except 523 00:37:34,220 --> 00:37:38,780 Back in exodus. They're like we don't want to hear from god directly you hear him and then tell us what he has to say 524 00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:40,300 Uh-huh 525 00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:45,500 It's almost like if people would actually listen to god rather than getting scared of everything he has to say 526 00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:49,340 There might be a lot less miscommunication. Yeah. Yeah 527 00:37:49,340 --> 00:37:50,060 Yeah 528 00:37:50,060 --> 00:37:52,060 So true. Do you think in? 529 00:37:52,460 --> 00:37:54,220 in church life 530 00:37:54,220 --> 00:38:00,940 We have a tendency to just think the worst without talking to god. Absolutely. We have a tendency to think the worst without talking to god 531 00:38:01,740 --> 00:38:03,340 I think we actually take it a step further 532 00:38:03,340 --> 00:38:09,420 We think the worst jumped that jumped to the conclusion that that's what's going to happen and then start acting on it before the situation's 533 00:38:09,420 --> 00:38:11,420 Actually fully taking place. Yeah 534 00:38:11,660 --> 00:38:16,860 It's actually devastating to a lot of churches because you'll have leadership who will be like, okay this happens 535 00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:21,100 This is probably going to be the case and then we're going to have to figure out how to deal with that and then they'll start 536 00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:22,700 dealing with these 537 00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:25,420 Made up situation in their head. I want to be clear 538 00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:34,060 We as leaders in churches and ministries we should be looking ahead and keeping our eyes open for potential issues 539 00:38:34,780 --> 00:38:37,100 potential problems, but we should also 540 00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:41,660 Uh and taking the time to be like, all right lord, what are you doing in this moment? 541 00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:45,500 Where am I in this story? Where do you want me in this story? 542 00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:49,660 Because the reality is i've been in leadership roles at a few different churches now you have as well 543 00:38:49,660 --> 00:38:55,260 And I could ask you this question have any of them gone exactly how you saw it exactly how I thought 544 00:38:55,260 --> 00:38:59,580 Yeah, it works out exactly like I thought it would be yeah a little bit of a rhetorical question there 545 00:38:59,580 --> 00:39:05,020 Like every role i've been in I I step out and I have vision and i'm like this is what's gonna happen 546 00:39:05,020 --> 00:39:08,860 And then six months in I was like the lord had a different plan 547 00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:11,420 Mm-hmm, and that's what it is 548 00:39:11,420 --> 00:39:17,820 So it's when we as leaders walk and step with the lord, that's when the community changes right 549 00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:21,580 When we try to force the change, that's when we glorify ourselves 550 00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:24,540 I think if there's a something we can learn in this section 551 00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:28,540 It's that and when you tend to focus focus on your opinion rather than the voice of god 552 00:39:29,260 --> 00:39:35,900 That you end up with some really messed up ideas about what happened. Yeah, also revisionist history is a real bit of the big thing 553 00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:36,460 Oh, yeah 554 00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:42,300 I think that we also need to be honest about like our history and what happened and our responsibilities. It's it's interesting 555 00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:45,180 So we had talked earlier. We said that this 556 00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:47,020 idea of 557 00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:51,740 Offerings come up afterwards and like the Sabbath restore a relationship after this section with the priesthood 558 00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:56,460 It actually says that now these are the duties of the priests and leviaths god reminds them once again 559 00:39:56,460 --> 00:39:57,900 This is who you're supposed to be 560 00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:01,980 Yeah, and then there's offerings for the priests and leviaths and it carries all the way into 561 00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:07,500 This the story about the water of cleansing and there's a there's like a new thing about what the Israelites are supposed to do 562 00:40:07,820 --> 00:40:13,100 Which is actually going to carry into our story next week. Yeah, but god says this is the issue 563 00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,100 And now let's make sure that we don't run into it again 564 00:40:15,740 --> 00:40:19,900 We used to have these things when I was a resident assistant in college called kevin rules 565 00:40:20,460 --> 00:40:22,460 Sorry, if somebody's listening their name is kevin 566 00:40:22,460 --> 00:40:25,900 And they were rules that we had to make because somebody named kevin did something dumb 567 00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:32,220 Uh-huh, and the rules were actually designed to make sure that something dumb didn't happen again. Yeah, but in god's case 568 00:40:32,220 --> 00:40:34,860 They're not just rules that are meant to get people to stop being dumb 569 00:40:34,860 --> 00:40:40,940 They're actually rules that are laws that are instituted for the purpose of restoring relationship or creating something different in you 570 00:40:41,180 --> 00:40:48,460 So that you become a different kind of person. Yeah, that's the big difference between american laws and laws of god. Yeah, right. Yeah, I 571 00:40:49,020 --> 00:40:53,180 Think the invitation in this in this text is to be the kind of leaders like Aaron and Michael 572 00:40:53,180 --> 00:40:56,220 At least in this story next week. It's gonna be a little bit different 573 00:40:57,020 --> 00:41:02,140 Be the kind of people in these stories that plead on behalf of people that don't deserve it. Yeah 574 00:41:02,780 --> 00:41:06,220 Yeah, because let's be honest. We don't deserve it either. We don't and 575 00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:11,740 With that said I know there's people in my life who have pleaded on behalf of myself. Yeah 576 00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:15,340 And I know there's people in my life who i've pleaded on behalf of them 577 00:41:16,220 --> 00:41:18,220 Yeah, we're gonna wrap the story here 578 00:41:18,460 --> 00:41:18,940 Yeah 579 00:41:18,940 --> 00:41:24,860 Because we don't if we go any further we're actually going to get into next week's topic or we're going to be talking about water from a rock 580 00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:29,100 Good story, it's gonna be fun. Yeah, so you can read ahead on that 581 00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,940 So a couple of things that are going cool is one apparently now we're gonna have video on youtube 582 00:41:32,940 --> 00:41:36,940 Yeah, provided that this turns out decent. Otherwise, i'm gonna edit all of this out. Nobody's gonna know the difference 583 00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:42,300 Yep, if it turns out well though, you'll be able to start watching us on youtube. The video will get better 584 00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:45,740 This is our first week. So it's gonna take us a little bit like it did with audio 585 00:41:45,740 --> 00:41:50,780 Yeah, it will get better things will always improve. We are always striving to be better 586 00:41:50,780 --> 00:41:56,380 So with that said if you actually have like hey, here's some good video tips that you have let us know 587 00:41:56,380 --> 00:41:59,900 We'd love that and just make sure it's simple because we're really not smart 588 00:42:00,860 --> 00:42:05,020 We're smart just not about technology. Yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah. Yeah, we're not smart technology 589 00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:08,860 Yeah, yeah, you can find us on facebook instagram tick tock 590 00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:12,460 Some of the things we're gonna start sending out and we've started posting some videos 591 00:42:12,460 --> 00:42:15,900 We've been making book recommendations. Yeah different books that we recommend 592 00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:19,100 We've we've put them in the show notes before but we're actually talking about why this book 593 00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:25,500 Yeah, additionally, i'm going to talk to spencer about this but we're going to get a link set up on our website and on our link tree 594 00:42:26,060 --> 00:42:29,420 To some different swag items that you can get for love and context 595 00:42:29,740 --> 00:42:34,620 The current one that is we designed a shirt and it says the debtor's is really hot 596 00:42:35,340 --> 00:42:37,740 And you're going to be able to order that I think in white and black 597 00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:39,740 I think that would be pretty cool 598 00:42:39,740 --> 00:42:44,460 We got that as a gift for uh, pastor nick's wife who commented that we say that a lot 599 00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:47,500 At the point that she will actually listen to this episode 600 00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:51,180 We've actually gotten her a shirt already that says that and I can't wait to tell you about her reaction 601 00:42:51,740 --> 00:42:54,460 It's great. 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