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Welcome to the love and context podcast engaging in unscripted conversations with your hosts Ben and Spencer

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Whether you're tuning in from your car your office your home or anywhere in between we are so happy to have you join us today

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Our mission is simple to explore the Bible through a powerful lens of love

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Together will uncover fresh insights and gain deeper understandings of how we can love God and love the people in our everyday lives

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So buckle up and join us on the spiritual journey as we discover timeless wisdom

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That is just as relevant today as it was thousands of years ago without further ado. Let's dive right in

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Welcome to the love and context podcast. I'm Spencer not Ben. I'm Ben and I'm not Spencer

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Yeah, glad you're listening with us today. We are going to be continuing through the book of numbers y'all excited

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I know I am Ben always makes fun of me because he's like your excited voice doesn't sound that excited

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I'm like it does not you're right, but I am excited. I mean you're basically like, oh, I'm so excited about what's coming up

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I can hurt the contain my am excited. Yeah, I am

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So if you haven't read numbers seven through ten pause the podcast go do that. Yeah

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Yeah, and I think this is one of the last sections that we're gonna be talking through before we kind of get into like I've told

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You and coming up we said buckle others and hard stories in here. This is one of the last sections that we have before

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We start getting into heart some hard stories. Yeah, right

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Yeah, so in seven through ten, by the way, if you haven't pods podcast and gonna read that it's time to do that

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It is it said this in a while, but there's new fangled technology

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You can pause a podcast and go read the Bible first and then come back here

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You can and I also in our show notes I linked going over to the Bible project

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I think if you watch the read scripture from the Bible project with the whole book of numbers

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It's actually gonna be really helpful to to get the whole context of the book. Yeah

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All right. So when the chapter seven starts up and it says that they have opened up the tabernacle, right?

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And so then the people are coming and they're bringing

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Offerings at the tabernacle and they're bringing these gifts or bringing offerings of worship to dedicate to the temple and to the altar

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Right. Yep, because it's being used at the beginning

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There's two words that show up here repeatedly that I think is worth noting because they're words that are very familiar to us in our modern

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The first word is this word Masa? It's a verb which means to anoint

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The definition of this word is to smear or spread across

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Now the first place that word shows up in Scripture is actually in Genesis 31 13 where God says

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He's the god of Bethel where Jacob poured or smeared oil on the stone marker or anointed the stone marker

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Remember, this is the stone that he laid his head on. Yes late because apparently that's what you do in the desert

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Yeah, real comfy pillows there. Yeah, you know those those commercials for like the pillow cube, huh?

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It's not as comfortable as a pillow cube not a sponsor. How do you know?

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Assuming somebody out there probably somebody who listens to this uses a pillow cube

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You go ahead and just send us a message and you let you go get a rock and tell us if the rock or the pillow cube

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Is more comfortable. Mm-hmm. It's probably a rock. There's this idea. It actually comes from spread across

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So the idea behind this idea of anointing it actually plays into our second word

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Anointing by implication is to consecrate or to separate out

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In other words, you are marking something that is going to be separated for something right?

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So kodas which is also a verb means to consecrate sanctify dedicate to make holy

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Set apart for something now these two words show up repeatedly as anointing and

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consecrating throughout this section of Scripture

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Kodas the first place that it shows up in scriptures in the creation narrative where God declares the seventh day. Holy he consecrates it

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He sanctifies it he dedicates it. He makes it holy

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Now we've talked about holy quite a few times and I really think it's one of those words that I think is wildly misunderstood

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So in the modern context like Spencer, what are you deal with a lot of youth?

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Yeah, so a lot of youth when they hear the word holy, what is the representation of what this word means?

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Can't happen solemn. Yeah

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Yeah, right like boring boring is another way that I've heard it described by teen by teenagers, right?

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it's really just that idea of like well you're talking about perfection and I'm not gonna obtain that because there's

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No way that's gonna happen

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Especially in context of teenagers where so many of them are coming from broken homes and poor whole lives nowadays, right?

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One the whole thing with being holy if you actually ascribe it to being like solemn or revered

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I think those things can be encompassing and but I would be very cautious with saying that God's

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Boring, you know because God is not boring. He's dynamic and super interesting and does way cooler stuff than we do

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Yeah, I mean he literally speaks universes into existence. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah

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He split an ocean into two oceans so that they could walk across dry land. Yeah all sorts of stuff

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And it's it's interesting because so this idea of holy we want to really reframe this as set apart or different than everything else

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So they're setting apart the two verbs is you're anointing something

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In other words, you are marking it and it's a verb

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It's something that you're marking and then you have this kodas this verb which means to set apart

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You're actually moving it from where it is and setting it apart from everything else. Yeah

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That whole set apart notion ties into the New Testament

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Testament when people who are starting to follow Jesus after his life death the resurrection

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They are doing things that set them apart from the culture of the day, right?

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They're they're actually echoing what God was establishing in Leviticus. Mm-hmm with his people saying hey, you're gonna live in a way

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That's countercultural. You're not going to like in Leviticus. You're not going to sacrifice your children, right?

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You're not going to carve into your arms as a form of worship

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Yeah, and then you fast forward to the Roman era like you're not going to offer a pinch of incense to Caesar before trade

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Yeah, it's the same. It's the same concept that's happening in the New Testament

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It's just instead of the sacrificial system being in place Christ had fulfilled all of Torah because he was Torah made flesh

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Right, right. In other words, he gives the example of how to actually walk that out in communion with God. Yep, exactly

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We're we've talked about and we brushed on it briefly

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But this idea that Jesus came to fulfill and then do away with the law is not accurate

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Mm-hmm. Now there is a different call for Jews and Gentiles right with there's that whole thing

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We talked about relations this works with the law and so there's different requirements on how we're supposed to put this

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Kingdom on display. Yeah, how you put the kingdom on display is how you're holy

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How are you different than everybody else around you which I think is a very good challenge for Gentiles, right?

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You have a very practical way. You don't wear blended fabrics

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You wear tassels on the end of your row you observe Shabbat on a religious in a religious way

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Like you have very tangible ways you put God on display and then you have some non tangible ways

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Of course by the way that you love people and all those different things too, but Gentiles we don't necessarily have these tangible ways

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So what are the actual tangible ways that we put God on display that we show that we trust this story?

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Yeah, right. You can actually find that in the end of Romans chapter 3. Yeah

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Because Romans chapter 3 talks about God's faithfulness Christ's punishment and you get to the end of Romans 3 and

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This is just a couple verses says after all is God the God of Jews only isn't he the God of the Gentiles?

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He is there is only one God who makes people right with himself by faith whether it's Jew or Gentile

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Well, then if we emphasize faith does that mean we can forget about the law? Of course not in

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In fact only when we have faith do we truly fulfilled the law?

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Right one and and so we don't want to get we've talked about that a little bit when we were doing Leviticus

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So we don't want to get to off the rails

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But like understand being holy and we were gonna keep coming back to this because I think we're probably gonna spend some time

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Going through either Romans or Galatians to talk about more in depth after we're done with our get our series

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So both of these words that show up anointing and consecrating

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They're both words of action the in other words their words that modify the noun. That's how language works, right?

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Both anointing and consecrations are words of action meaning they aren't the thing they are what is done with the thing

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Yes. Now the reason I point that out is because in modern understanding we were like anointing consecrate

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We talked about all these things, but what are you anointing and consecrating, right? Yeah

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So it's not just you anoint and consecrate you actually there is they're meant to modify

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The noun which is the person place thing or idea, right?

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So then in this section they actually go into what are they consecrating?

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What are they anointing and it lists all the tribes all these leaders and all these other people that brought gifts of worship and adoration

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And what they were what they actually brought to God

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And worship and adoration and there's a couple of different offerings mentioned here in this chapter

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And we talked about a few of these there's the burnt offering

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Yeah, we did talk about a few of these burnt offering if you remember Leviticus

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This is an act of worship committing to follow after God and His righteousness

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Now we just got to reiterate a little bit when we're talking offerings

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We're not just talking about sin offering right like that's often what we hear about in the church context today is like

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Oh, well, there was offer there are sacrifices just so that forgiveness of sin. I was like no there's actually

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Multiple types of offerings for me. I'm a different occasions. The vast majority were not actually sin related. Yeah, they were

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There's actually only one that really really is tying directly. Yeah that yeah ties directly to sin

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So burnt offering is the first one that's mentioned here, which is an act of worship

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Alright, it's saying hey

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I am going to strive after God to be with God be in relationship with God and strive after his righteousness

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And on a very practical sense you think about like, okay

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Well, why is that connecting you to the righteousness of God? Okay, when you burn something it rises up and ancient understanding

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Where is God he's above you? Yep, right? He's in the heavens

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Another one that's mentioned that is in this section of scripture in numbers is the fellowship or the peace offering and its connection between

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Humanity and God right this particular offering usually involves a meal of a sort

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Either eaten with another person or in the presence of God. Yeah, right. This has come up a number of times

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This was in or sorry, I think it was a little like it's nine where they were eating before

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Aaron was good to go into the temple, right? Yeah, and

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Then last one is one that is called a sin offering as this is an offering having to do with

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ritualistic purity

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That would have made sense as the tabernacle has just been completed and they're preparing to enact use for it

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They're enacting ritual purification when you're a doctor. You should wash your hands before you actually operate, right?

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And at least I hope they would so do I before you go and do that. We're not saying you're disease-ridden

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But at the same time you should probably wash your hands before you stick your hands in someone's guts

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Yeah, right, right. This is ritualistic purity and it's not necessarily that they're full of sin

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But this is to reconnect them with the nature of God. That's the whole thing about the sin offering now if you are

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Struggling a little bit with this and you're just joining us for the first time go back to our Levitical episode about the sacrificial system

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So in the middle of all this at the tail end of these offerings

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There's this really cool thing that happens in chapter 7 in verse 89. And yes, it goes all the way to 89

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We had a discussion. That's a lot of verses in one chapter

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It says when Moses entered the tent of meeting to speak with the Lord

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He heard the voice speaking to him from above the mercy seat that was on the ark of the testimony

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From between the two cherubim. He spoke to him in that way

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Okay. So first off, let's just talk about how cool that is. Yeah, okay

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So one of the things I've had conversations with people about nowadays is they say well God doesn't speak audibly. Okay

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Well right here in the Bible. He definitely does he does he still does and yeah, and I'd say that he doesn't always speak audibly

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But where does he always speak audibly in Scripture nor does he always speak audibly in Scripture exactly

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But there are points in Scripture where it's very clear that God spoke audibly

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Mm-hmm, right and I don't believe that his nature changed between the Old Testament and the New Testament and the modern day

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And if you believe that I feel like you might be arguing with Scripture itself

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Right, you would be arguing a scripture itself. I'm not even gonna say that you might be

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So this is really cool I want to talk about some rabbinic conversation that actually happens in Torah around this okay, so a

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Torah itself. That's the first five books of the Bible. The rabbis are gonna talk about Torah in a lot of different ways

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They're gonna call it the bread of life the the tree of life a lot of injury imagery that connects it back to the Garden of Eden

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So I want to talk about what's actually happening here really quickly in this in this statement

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Restoration of relationship through spoken communication because God is literally speaking with humanity again

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Yeah, because the last time we saw God in the garden

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He was walking with them in the cool of the evening the ruach of the evening the spirit of the evening

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So it's ours already trying to connect you back to like God is reestablishing what happened in the garden

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He's reestablishing relationship with humanity in the way that it's supposed to be so what is actually inside of the ark?

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Well, there's the bread. Yep, right. There's Torah. Yep right now

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It's actually represented by the Ten Commandments, right tap sound words money

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Yeah, ten words and it's not yet happening, but it will come up before we're out of this book

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But Aaron's staff is gonna be in there. Yeah, right after it buds

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There are two cherubim that are facing each other

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So where else have we seen two cherubim facing each other the entrance of Eden?

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There are two angels that are there one represented by a sword and another one by an angel right that are there guarding

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The entrance to Eden some of you are gonna be like oh why to like there's a lot of reasons

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I'm not gonna get into it right now. Otherwise, there's gonna be an hour and a half episode

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So what's actually happening here? God's reestablishing this connection that he's lost since Eden. He's continuing his story

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Through the people of Israel now you tried to get ahead of me. So let's talk about Jesus

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Yeah, Ben just so you know this happens often where Ben's like, okay, I'm setting up a context and I'm like, all right

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Let's talk here. He's like no not yet. Not yet. I'm not there yet. Yeah, this happens all the time

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If we have points were like a b c d he's like a c b d e f z

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We had exactly that's how you do it. That's how you do it. Ben's like no, that's not how you do that

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So let's talk about Jesus here. So Jesus makes some claims here that we have to understand

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So when we're understanding the context of the Ark of the Covenant, we have the bread and we have Torah we have Aaron's staff

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Okay, those are Aaron's staff soon gonna be in there

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Okay, Jesus makes a statement saying that he is the bread that came from heaven which is not only gonna be manna

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Uh-huh, but also what's in the ark? Yep, which is all yep

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And then statements also made in the beginning of John that he is the word. Mm-hmm

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He's the one was the word. He's Torah made flesh

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All right, and then there's also the statement made that he is the high priest in the order of Melchizedek

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Well, who's the high priest in Israel?

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Aaron and his staff is represented in the covenant itself. Yeah, so Jesus in these statements

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These are very intentional because he's saying hey, I recognize

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The Ark of the Covenant what is in there? That's a place where God spoke from and so here

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I'm going to say that I am the embodiment of that

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Yeah, which is crazy because then Jesus is the one who made the covenant

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It's crazy because then Jesus says I'm a representation of the Father what he says I say on earth

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Yep, right. So God has been speaking from between the two cherubim and now the cherubim made flesh

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Yeah, right the Torah made flesh the bread they came from heaven the high priest in the order of Melchizedek is now walking and talking

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Yes, and it's not an accident and if you miss that you're gonna miss some really cool stuff

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That's being alluded to and so like oftentimes when we view these like we view these as like

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Oh, well, Jesus saying I'm the bread that came from heaven and we're like, oh, he's the nourishment. Yes. Yes. Yes

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Absolutely, but he's also alluding back to the fact that he is Torah made flesh very rarely does a rabbi waste one

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Analogy uses it to connect to like six different ideas. Yeah

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So you got at least see that moving forward

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One of the reasons that we bring these up is because as we go into the New Testament as we as believers go and walk

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Out our love in context. It's gonna be really important that we understand what Jesus is actually representing, right?

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Yeah, what part of the story that Jesus is actually walking into?

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We actually had a email question and I thought it was actually a really good question

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Somebody sent us and it's not gonna show up in our Q&A

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So I wanted to just met something here because it's connected what we're talking about

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They asked they understood the context part. But what what heart of love are we hoping to establish?

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Inside of this because they've always viewed the Bible as being written to them. Yeah now on a very broad level

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I want to establish that's absolutely true. Yes, the Bible is absolutely written for you

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It just wasn't necessarily written to you because you weren't a turn-of-the-century Jew

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It was it wasn't written for the Jews in the time of Jesus

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It was over for the Jews in the time of Abraham

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Huh, even the Jews in the time of Jesus have to interpret through the Abrahamic lens. Yes

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Yeah through the mosaic lens, right because you got to contextualize the time period. Yeah, absolutely

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You do and the question of how does this like draws closer into love understand in the context of Scripture?

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It actually draws us closer to the heart of God and the heart of God is love

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Yeah, what our hope is under uncovering this context is not that it changes what you believe it got God

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But that it makes the nature of God more true to you. Yes, that's our hope

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Yeah, and when you start viewing it and we talked about this a while back on the podcast

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But when you start viewing God as a God of love and not a God of anger

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Mm-hmm. It changes your whole perspective

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because oftentimes in church will view God as a God of anger in the Old Testament that I got a love in the New Testament and

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At which point you have to ask like well, where did his nature change and the answer is his nature didn't change

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So if his nature didn't change and he's a God of love in the New Testament

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Which is fulfillment of the Old Testament and he has to be a God of love in the Old Testament, right?

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Which then if I read something in the Old Testament

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I struggle with it and then I need to actually wrestle with that and not just move on without thinking about it

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I need to actually wrestle and say how does this fit into the knowledge that God is trying to promote love of him and love of

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Your neighbor. Yeah, I just think that is a really cool

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Connection about the speaking from between the covenant like I always love it in the Old Testament where it talks about God speaking

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Yeah, there's a story in next week's podcast. So we're gonna be talking about where God does this really cool stuff

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Again, it has that would do with the division of the spirit and I can't wait to get to that

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There's a there's just a number of stories and numbers that I love. Yeah

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So jumping over to eight and nine, there's a few things that are worth noting here

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Okay, they prepare these lamps now this references back to Exodus where they're supposed to refill the oil and trim the wicks so that

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The lamps never go out. Yeah, so here you have the Lord saying to Moses give Aaron these instructions and

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He gives them these instructions to set up the lamps and get them lit, right?

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Exactly. The light lit flame is supposed to be the face of God in the place, right?

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The presence of God in the place of course is represented by the cloud as well

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But the flame is supposed to be like the face of God there. Yeah, right

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And so you always want to keep those running because you know, you definitely don't watch your lamp to run out

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Uh-huh, which incidentally might be important in a story that Jesus tells in the New Testament, which we'll get to at some point

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Yeah, so they set up these lamps because now it's time for them to be lit. Yeah, they're getting going

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Yeah, and then you get to the dedication or the consecration of the Levites

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Now in this you get back to this idea of being holy right being set apart

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If you do any reading about the Levites, you will realize that the Levites are very different than the rest of Israel

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Yeah, and not every Levite is a priest like some Levites are just involved in the running of the temple

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And once again because their jobs will be to teach the kingdom how to be a kingdom of priests

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Yeah, right. So you have to understand that you just gotta understand that yeah priest. We're going to Levi's

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We're actually going to set you apart

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You guys are gonna be really weird because you're gonna be at the center of our travels all the entire time

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Picking up the temple moving in place to place

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Teaching us all what it means to put God on display and have a restored relationship with God

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So does the nation so in the Levi's dedication another thing to note is that it wasn't like oh, hey

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Let's just bring the Levi's together. We'll talk about what that looks like

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With a lot of people. Yeah, so the dedication of the Levi's was like, hey

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Everybody in this nation show up

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This nation show up. Mm-hmm for this because you need to see who these people are that are going to help teach you how to

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Put God's righteousness on display. Yeah

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Yeah, I I love that. It's not just like hey

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FYI we sent an email out let you know these guys set apart, right?

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It's there's this new band bunch called the Levi's they're gonna oversee the priests

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Do think it's actually important to note that when if your church is also setting people aside for ministry

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Uh-huh. It show up. Yeah, even if you're not involved in the yeah the laying on the hands or whatever is happening at your church

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Yeah, it's always being set aside for ministry. They're being sent out any of those things like show up. You're part of the family

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Yeah, this whole idea that we talked about imbuing identity setting apart for ministry all these different things like you're also

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Casting your identity with them as you're sending them out to be representatives of Christ to the world

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Yeah, right like you we need to be part of this. There's a reason we're a family now

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I think it's interesting that after they do this that they then go and celebrate Passover for the second time

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Yep, right first time being in Egypt now

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They're one year out and they're celebrating Passover again, which is really important because we've talked about in the ten words

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What's the first commandment? I?

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Am the Lord your God put no other gods before me. Yeah

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I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt don't have any other gods

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And if you don't remember that he's the God who brought you out of Egypt

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You're probably gonna have some other gods here. They celebrate Passover

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Before they're about to head out and actually go and do what they're supposed to do

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They're reminded of where they come from. Mm-hmm

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And they remember who brought them out and and who conquered their gods and who brought them to this place, right? Yeah

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Inside now we need to remember where we came from

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But not saying live like live where he came from I'm saying you need to remember though

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Because you can't accurately articulate the story if you can't remember your past. Oh

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100% yeah 100% you cannot articulate how Christ has changed your life

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You're not gonna be able to articulate how he can change someone else's life

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So you need to know your story?

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Yeah, that's really good. I I think that it's it's really cool

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They celebrate this the piece that comes after this that I think that we should talk about. Mm-hmm, right?

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And it comes on the back end of chapter 9 and into 10. Mm-hmm

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It starts in verse 15 and I'm just gonna read this I want to read 915 through 23

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It says on the day the tabernacle the tent of the covenant law was set up the cloud covered it

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From evening till morning the cloud above the tabernacle looked like fire

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This is how it continued to be the cloud cover it and a night. It looked like fire

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Whenever the cloud lifted from above the tent the Israelites set out whenever the cloud settled the Israelites

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Encamped at the Lord's command the Israelites set out and at his command

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They encamped as long as the cloud stayed over the tabernacle

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They remained in camp when the cloud remained over the tabernacle a long time

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The Israelites obeyed the Lord's order and did not set out

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Sometimes the cloud was over the tabernacle only a few days at the Lord's command

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They would encamp and then at his command they would be set out sometimes the cloud only stayed only from evening till morning

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They set out whether the cloud stayed over the tabernacle for two days or a month or a year

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The Israelites would remain in the camp and not set out but when it lifted they would set out as the command Lord

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Commanded they encamped and at the Lord's command they set out

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They obeyed the Lord's command in accordance with his command through Moses and you hear the sound of the Lord's command

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You hear that and you're like, yeah, we get it when the cloud was there. They stayed and when the cloud moved they went

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If you got it, they wouldn't have to say it so many times. Mm-hmm

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Because this is still what God is doing and we'll keep trying to move without the cloud

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Yeah, and I love the imagery of the cloud and fire

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Because the cloud in the day provides shelter from the heat the fire at night provides heat

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Mm-hmm in the cold

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Because I don't know if you guys know this but the desert can get real hot

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It also can get real cold at night. How many times we said that a lot a lot

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The desert can get real hot. It can also get really cold

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Yeah, so you have a cloud during day the day to cool it down. You have a fire at night to warm it up

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Yeah, right. And so when you step outside of that, guess what?

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Your protection from the elements is gone. Yeah

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Yeah, right and God what he's doing is he's trying to draw you back say no, I'm right here

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I want to provide shelter for you. I want to provide warmth for you

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And it's not just it's not just the warmth and it's not just the cooling during the day

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It also says that when they would go it talks about this in Deuteronomy when they would walk their shoes wouldn't wear out

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Their clothes weren't wearing out

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They got attacked by various creatures like because there's a lot of like dangerous things in the desert

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Scorpions on the snakes and all those things we don't like. Mm-hmm, right?

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And it says that they were protected from these the entire time that they're roaming because the cloud went with them

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Yeah, which is once again gonna be very important when we come in to talk about this brown serpent, right?

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It's a few weeks from now, but just keep that pin that in the back your head when you're protected by the cloud

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Nothing else can get you. Yeah, you're protected from the cold. You're protected from the heat

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You're protected from all the things that would attack you. Yeah, you still have to be in the desert

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Yep, and you still have to trust. Yep

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You're still getting your food each day from heaven and you still got to trust that you're getting led to water. Yeah

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So, I mean, I don't want to say it's like devoid of faith because you absolutely have to walk in faith in the middle of a desert

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Which I think is probably where people struggle maybe with understanding walking in the blessing of God

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You can be incredibly blessed by God and still walk through the middle of chaos

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I was thinking the story we talked about a few weeks ago where the people who went to my church and like their kid died in a car crash

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Right? Yeah, like they were absolutely blessed by God. Uh-huh. It didn't mean that chaos didn't come to the door

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Yeah, it just means in the middle of the chaos

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They had a refuge now. It's so good. I think if there's something we can talk about chapter 10

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They make the silver trumpets and then they actually set out. Yeah, they're actually going so that's what happens in chapter 10

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But let's just stop here because I want to stop here and talk about this

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modern church

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Do we actually stay where God stays and go when God goes or do we do go and do what we think makes the most sense?

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My personal experience

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Happens to be the latter

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In my life that I tend to rather than seeking what is God doing?

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I try to go and figure out how to do for myself. Yeah with that said it can be really hard to sit still

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In a desert like when God like there in that passage. It says whether it stayed a day a month or a year

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Right. You're gonna set up camp for a year in one spot in the middle of the desert

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Sometimes that happens in our lives. It can be really hard to stay

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We can feel the need of like we have to move we have to go

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But you might be in that spot where you're like actually I need to stay because the Lord hasn't moved yet

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We have referenced this before it is just a it's just a quality piece of literature written by Henry Blackaby a long time ago

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And it's called experiencing God. It's a study. We're gonna leave that again in the show notes

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But I want to talk about his seven realities and just a couple of things that he talks about when you're learning to

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Hear and do the will of God. Mm-hmm, right? The first reality is this God is always at work around you. Yeah

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Like God's always doing something

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Right. The second is that God pursues a continuing love relationship with you that is real

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And personal. Yeah

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God invites you to become involved with him in his work. Yeah

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And God speaks by the Holy Spirit through the Bible through prayer through circumstances and through the church to reveal himself his purposes and his ways. Yep

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God's invitation for you is to work with him through the Bible through prayer through circumstances and through the church to reveal himself his purposes and his ways. Yep

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God's invitation for you is to work with him always leads you to a crisis of belief that requires faith

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You must make major adjustments in your life to join God in what he's doing

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And you come to know God by experience as you obey him and he accomplishes his work through you

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Now these all line up with what's going on in Torah. God's speaking. God invites you

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Yeah, uh, you have to choose are you going to make major adjustments?

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Are you going to stay in Egypt where you're in slavery, but you know what's going to happen or are you going to walk into the desert?

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Where you don't have any bread or water. Yeah

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Are you going to follow God?

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And choose to have him be your God or are you going to stay at the base of Sinai?

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Yeah, are you going to follow the cloud?

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Or are you going to see what God is doing? Yeah, because he's always working around you

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Is he work where you are or is he moving on? Yeah, that's the important thing

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Yeah, and are you with him when he's doing that?

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I've heard it said people will make the statement. They're like well don't just stand there do something

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And sometimes that is absolutely what you should do do something

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Other times though. God is saying don't just do something stand there

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Right, and it depends on what God is saying

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You hit the nail on the head Spencer. You said during the day the cloud provides shade. Yeah, but during the night it provides warmth

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So what that means is that the way that God interacts with you isn't always going to be the same even though his presence is yeah

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And sometimes it's going to warn you and sometimes it's going to cool you sometimes. It's warmth when you're resting

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Uh-huh, and sometimes it's cooling when you're moving. Yeah

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Well, what does God want me to do? It's going to depend on what he's doing

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Yeah, so what we should be doing is looking for Jesus and then adjusting to that. Yeah

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Right. Yeah, what is Jesus doing? Where is he calling you?

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Where is he in your life? And where is he moving you from?

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Where is he moving you to because he's doing all of that all the time

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The best thing we can ever teach people to do is see Jesus and follow after him. Yep

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Right. He'll take care of the rest. He'll take care of the rest. Yeah

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That's probably a good place for us to cut it and for today

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We've enjoyed having you guys here and having this conversation like seriously look for God moving look for Jesus moving follow after him

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Next week, we're gonna have pastor nick on as a special guest and we'll be doing a little bit of a

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Talk about some of the other things going on in the next part portion of numbers

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We can be found on so many places now amazon spotify apple

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YouTube. Yeah, tick tock

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Instagram facebook and just for warning just be prepared to buckle up a little bit in the next few episodes

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Because we're getting into some very fun stories. Yeah. Thanks for joining us and until next time

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That's a wrap for today's episode. We want to extend a heartfelt

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Thank you for tuning in and spending your valuable time with us

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We hope that you found today's conversation insightful and that you take something meaningful from it

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If you have questions or comments, we would love to hear from you

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Reach out to us at love and context at gmail.com and we will be sure to get back to you

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Including apple spotify amazon youtube and one don't forget to follow us on social media at love and context

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Everything I say is 100 coherent

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Uh, you sound pretty excited

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I'm super excited that you're here. That is my excited voice. Is it?

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Let me do that whole thing again future ben. I'm sorry. You had to cut all this

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It was written to the jews in the time of abraham you be quiet

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I don't know how many belches I had to edit out. It was like 50. It's what it felt like. That's impressive. It's really impressive

