1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,120 Welcome to the Love and Context podcast, engaging in unscripted conversations with your hosts, 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,360 Ben and Spencer. 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,480 Whether you're tuning in from your car, your office, your home, or anywhere in between, 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,200 we are so happy to have you join us today. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:21,120 Our mission is simple, to explore the Bible through a powerful lens of love. 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:26,260 Together we'll uncover fresh insights and gain deeper understandings of how we can love 7 00:00:26,260 --> 00:00:29,640 God and love the people in our everyday lives. 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,880 So buckle up and join us on this spiritual journey as we discover timeless wisdom that 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,560 is just as relevant today as it was thousands of years ago. 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,760 Without further ado, let's dive right in. 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:48,640 Welcome back to the Love and Context podcast, a casual conversation with Benjamin and Spencer. 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,360 I used my full name that time, huh? 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,360 Yes. 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,120 Not for you guys, but for us it's been a while since we recorded because if anybody does 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,200 podcasts they know that you record in advance. 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,200 Yeah. 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,320 We're not actually recording the week of and editing and trying to post because real life. 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:07,880 Real life and let's be real, we also live in Alaska and summertime in Alaska is really 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:08,880 busy. 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,880 Yeah, I hear from most people that the fishing is really good right now, so they're real 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,200 excited about this. 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:18,080 We're actually recording at our church today after service because it's a very quiet place 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,520 where your dogs aren't barking. 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,200 Hey now, my dogs are green with everything we're saying. 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,680 Yes, they're like, praise the Lord. 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,680 I'm 100% in this. 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,160 Yeah, that's what's going on. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,160 Yeah. 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,800 So we have been in the book of Leviticus every time. 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,960 So the first week we just talked about the purpose of Leviticus, the chiasmus, some of 31 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:38,400 the things that were going on in there. 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,840 And then last week we talked about the offerings and we talked about how the offerings are 33 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,720 really meant to bring you to God. 34 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,160 Because I think a lot of the time in the Christian existence we spend too much time talking about 35 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,680 the offerings as a atonement for sin, not realizing that God is the one who forgives 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,680 sin and the gifts are meant to bring us into relationship with God. 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,680 Yes. 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,400 So that's a good point to understand moving into the New Testament and the picture of 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,400 Jesus. 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,400 Hopefully you've caught that. 41 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,400 Once again, we're going to list some resources. 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,520 The Bible Project has some great resources on Leviticus. 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,720 Additionally, Rabbi David Foreman at LFBeta.org has some fantastic videos understanding the 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,480 Hebrew and the laws and what do these actually mean. 45 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,640 And then the last one is D. Thomas Lancaster, what about the sacrifices, which is going 46 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:20,240 to have a lot of content for you to digest. 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,440 Yeah. 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,160 So moving into this week, we're going to be talking about the priests because this book 49 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,840 is an instruction for the priesthood on how to be the priesthood. 50 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,560 And on a broad level, all of Israel is a priesthood. 51 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,560 Yeah. 52 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,560 That's what God says. 53 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,560 That's what he says in Exodus. 54 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,480 He says, you will be for me, a cherished possession, a chosen people, a royal priesthood. 55 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,960 You're going to be a royal priesthood. 56 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,320 And he's talking to all of Israel, not just the one 12th that are going to actually be 57 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,600 the priests. 58 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,000 What is interesting and what we're going to start talking about today is God actually 59 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,600 does have a segment of them be the priesthoods. 60 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,120 Even inside of a kingdom of priests, you have people inside of that one 12th of the nation 61 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,920 that actually instructs the rest of the nation on how to be a priesthood. 62 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:06,880 It's almost like the equipping of the saints. 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:07,880 Right. 64 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:08,880 Yeah. 65 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,680 It's going to be very similar because you mentioned this, like Paul talks about in Ephesians. 66 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,000 He talks about how some are gifted to be this and some are gifted to be this and some are 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,240 gifted to be this. 68 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,880 And the reality is they're all in their gifts when they're exercising them properly. 69 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,280 It's to equip the saints. 70 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,280 Yeah. 71 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,600 Think of the priesthood the same way. 72 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:31,760 The priesthood is actually meant to equip the nation to be a priest or a conduit of 73 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,600 heaven to earth to all of the world. 74 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,040 They're going to put on display God in such a way that everybody, when they look at them, 75 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,040 they're like, hey, look at God. 76 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,040 He's really cool. 77 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,040 Yeah. 78 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,400 It's just like your pastors today. 79 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,960 They're up there not to do all the work for you, but to equip you to be Christ in your 80 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,400 community. 81 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,280 That whole concept in the New Testament was actually stolen from Leviticus and Exodus. 82 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,280 Thevery. 83 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,280 Thevery. 84 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,280 Right. 85 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,280 Thevery. 86 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:05,040 They actually took that from Leviticus and Exodus to prove the point that this is a fulfillment 87 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,960 of Torah, not an addition to. 88 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,120 And I think the temptation is we forget the audience that Paul was writing to. 89 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,840 He's writing to a conglomeration of Jews and Gentiles. 90 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,440 And so the Jews would have informed them, hey, this is what the priesthood does. 91 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,640 And so now our pastoral roles, you guys actually function in this capacity. 92 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,640 Yeah. 93 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Right. 94 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:23,640 Yeah. 95 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,640 And with Jesus as a high priest in the order of Melchizedek, right? 96 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,840 You're supposed to function in this role to actually help the entire body, equip the 97 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:33,080 entire body to be priest to the entire world. 98 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,920 Because Peter, in 1st or 2nd Peter, I can't remember which book, he's actually going to 99 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:42,520 say that we are a chosen people of royal priesthood, calling back to this idea of Exodus. 100 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,720 Yeah, absolutely. 101 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:45,720 So good. 102 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,120 The priesthood becomes really important. 103 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:52,000 The first high priest set up in the book of Leviticus and Exodus is Aaron, which one of 104 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,560 the things that I love about Aaron actually being appointed to this is we're not that 105 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,700 far removed from the golden calf incident, where he's all these people, they're stiff 106 00:04:59,700 --> 00:05:00,700 necked and whatever. 107 00:05:00,700 --> 00:05:02,200 And I took this gold and I threw it in the fire. 108 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,200 Woof. 109 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,200 How came this calf? 110 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,240 Because that's how golden calves are born. 111 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,240 Yeah. 112 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,840 You throw something in the fire, then poof, it turns into a well sculpted golden calf. 113 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:14,440 Have you ever done any metalworking? 114 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,440 A little bit. 115 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,440 It's not easy work. 116 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,240 Yeah, it's not like you just throw it in there and just, no. 117 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:20,240 Makes itself, right? 118 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,240 No. 119 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,760 Actually, one of the, there was one metal project I had to do and this will, you'll 120 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,080 laugh at this since we're Alaskans and we deal with, and a lot of people around here 121 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:34,600 deal with boats, is I was working on a boat with a friend and he took a grinder just like 122 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,720 straight through the bottom of the hole of the boat. 123 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,560 And so, so huge gash in there. 124 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,920 And so we had to do some welding and riveting. 125 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,680 I'm assuming you weren't on the water at the moment. 126 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,680 No, we were not. 127 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,120 Because that would have been hilarious addition to that story. 128 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,120 And then we started swimming. 129 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,120 I had a bucket, we were shoveling out water. 130 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,880 And so we had to do some metalwork, some riveting, some welding, all this stuff. 131 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:03,040 It was a whole project because he did quite the number on this, but it was not easy work. 132 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,520 It turned into a day and a half project. 133 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,900 I feel like in metalworking or precious metal, whatever you want to call it, that the only 134 00:06:10,900 --> 00:06:13,240 thing that you can do easily is destroy. 135 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,600 Oh yeah. 136 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,360 Creating is actually an act of intention. 137 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:17,360 Yeah. 138 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,360 Yeah. 139 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,640 Which maybe there's a reason why that's the analogy used very often. 140 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,640 Right? 141 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,480 Because creating is actually a role of intention. 142 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,960 But one of the things I love about, so Aaron is being used again, is that God is actually 143 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,920 using Aaron in a capacity and something that we would never qualify for people. 144 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:37,040 Can you imagine, okay, can you imagine in a church today, somebody coming to be like 145 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,720 a senior pastor of a church or the associate pastor, worship pastor, whatever you want 146 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:41,720 to call it. 147 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:47,320 A year earlier, they had been telling another church that they should worship all. 148 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,600 Has it even been a year though? 149 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,600 No, it hasn't. 150 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,320 No, we're talking like days, weeks, maybe. 151 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,320 Yeah. 152 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,560 We're like not talking a very long time between Leviticus 9 and the Golden Calf. 153 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,560 Yeah. 154 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,560 Leviticus 8, sorry. 155 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:58,560 Yeah, exactly. 156 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,800 God comes and he takes Aaron and he says, yeah, I know you messed up. 157 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,480 So did the entire nation and I'm still using you. 158 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,120 You're still my bride and we're still going to move forward with my plan. 159 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,840 So you're going to be the high priest. 160 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:17,800 So you're saying God is a gracious, loving, compassionate, giving God. 161 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:18,800 Yeah. 162 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:24,160 That his compassion is a thousand to three of his anger. 163 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,560 So one of the things that I find interesting about the priesthood is a lot of the things 164 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,760 that got commissions on the priesthood, actually, if you take a look in the book of Numbers, 165 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,260 which we're going to get to, but I was going to pull something forward backwards. 166 00:07:36,260 --> 00:07:40,440 God actually says to Aaron, he says, when you go and you talk to the Israelites, you're 167 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,280 to bless them like this. 168 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,140 The Lord bless you and keep you. 169 00:07:45,140 --> 00:07:48,640 The Lord make his face shine upon you and be gracious unto you. 170 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,920 The Lord lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace. 171 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:52,920 Countenance being face. 172 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:53,920 Yeah. 173 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:54,920 Right. 174 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,960 And so the whole thing about the blessing that the priesthood is supposed to be bestowing 175 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:05,860 on Israel on a regular basis is actually about God moving in a relational, connected way 176 00:08:05,860 --> 00:08:07,160 in their life. 177 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,160 Yeah. 178 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Yeah. 179 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,200 And it feels like you were saying that the priesthood, their designation, their idea is 180 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,960 actually to connect God and humanity. 181 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:15,960 Yeah. 182 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,480 And so one of the best ways to teach people how to do that is to connect them first. 183 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Yep. 184 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Okay. 185 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,920 It becomes really important that the priesthood have a lot of humbleness towards their position 186 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:34,360 because you are being charged with leading God's people that are in turn going to lead 187 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,320 people who are outside of the kingdom to the kingdom. 188 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,320 Right. 189 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,920 And you have to put his story on display so that other people put the story on display 190 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,120 so that God is glorified. 191 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,120 Yeah. 192 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:51,360 And let's pause right there because I do want to touch on in Deuteronomy, there's actually 193 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:57,480 a whole section of Deuteronomy that talks about welcoming the outsiders in. 194 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,400 And let's not get the illusion that this is just for the Jewish people or just for the 195 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,020 heepers. 196 00:09:03,020 --> 00:09:05,740 There's a whole section on how do we welcome the outsiders in? 197 00:09:05,740 --> 00:09:07,080 What does that look like? 198 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,080 Correct. 199 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,640 Because God has always been a God for all nations, not just the Hebrew people. 200 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:13,960 That's going all the way back to Genesis 12. 201 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:14,960 Yep. 202 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,100 I'm going all the way back to Genesis 12. 203 00:09:16,100 --> 00:09:19,400 So let's keep that in mind as we're reading through this. 204 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,000 As we're talking about the ordination of priests who are then going to teach the rest of the 205 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,960 nation how to be a priest to the rest of the world. 206 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,080 Right. 207 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Let's keep that in mind that God is for the whole world and this isn't an exclusive club. 208 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:33,600 Right. 209 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,440 The purpose of this is actually everybody else. 210 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,440 Yes. 211 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,720 You are blessed so that. 212 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:38,720 Yes. 213 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,080 It's the only reason that like Ben and I can actually sit here and talk to you about this 214 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:47,000 is because we have been welcomed in as outsiders through the work of Jesus Christ. 215 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Correct. 216 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,000 This is always the intention of God. 217 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,360 And I'm going to digress here just for a second, but we're going to talk about this a bunch 218 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,440 of times, but it's really important we understand that Jesus was a Hebrew Messiah. 219 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:57,440 Yeah. 220 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,000 Because God had a role for Israel that they were going to put his name on display. 221 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,020 They were going to be a holy nation and that they were going to step in the gap for everybody 222 00:10:05,020 --> 00:10:08,680 else and they were going to be the way that heaven touches earth and God interacts with 223 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:10,920 the rest of the world for redemption. 224 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,040 And he chose them because they were no good at it. 225 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,920 He says, in fact, you're a stiff necked and stubborn people. 226 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:16,920 Right. 227 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,400 And he's not choosing them because they're the greatest. 228 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,840 He's choosing them because they're the least, which by the way should tell you what you 229 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:21,840 should do with your weaknesses. 230 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:22,840 Yeah. 231 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:23,840 Put God on display. 232 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,440 We're so tempted to hide our weaknesses, but God wants to use those to show his favor. 233 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,440 Yeah. 234 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,880 God's favor plus my weakness is awesome. 235 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,760 We've talked about that more than a few times. 236 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,060 So Jesus is a Hebrew Messiah. 237 00:10:38,060 --> 00:10:44,520 And so he actually fulfills the role of Israel to actually save the entire world. 238 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:50,800 Jesus steps into the identity of Israel and actually fulfills their calling into the world, 239 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:56,360 which then opens the entire gospel, the entire truth that God has had up to this point to 240 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,360 the entire world. 241 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,160 Hence why Gentiles are now welcomed in. 242 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,160 Yeah. 243 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,840 So good. 244 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,760 One of these times we're going to have to spend some real time understanding what is 245 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,960 the sacrifice of Jesus and placing our faith in Jesus actually talking about. 246 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,840 In fact, we may actually talk about that next week when we talk about the works of the law 247 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,640 versus the moral law. 248 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:16,640 Yeah. 249 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:17,640 Yeah. 250 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,640 Yeah. 251 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,760 So it becomes incredibly important that the priesthood is in it for the right reason. 252 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:31,080 Now, we talked about this in Egypt, priesthood is power, it's wealth, it's influence. 253 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,200 That's not so much the case in Leviticus. 254 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:39,120 In this book, the priest, it's not like they're mistreated, but they actually exist by the 255 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,040 charity and the offerings of the entire nation. 256 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:47,560 They can't hold power if the entire nation doesn't support them. 257 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:51,840 And by the way, that's probably how it should be in general. 258 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,320 Because when people have a taste of power and they can exploit that power, they typically 259 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,560 do. 260 00:11:56,560 --> 00:12:02,360 And if you're looking for an example, I have one, it's called history. 261 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,720 Lip open a history book, point at a random page and you're probably pretty close. 262 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:07,720 Yeah. 263 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,320 So there is a call on the priest to put the story of God on display. 264 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,120 Are they going to trust what God is doing and put it on display? 265 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,880 Are they going to help the people of Israel understand what the rules and regulations 266 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,000 are actually helping to tell them about God? 267 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:27,680 Or are they going to use these means for self-promotion, selfishness, power? 268 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:32,280 Now I will tell you that in the time of Jesus, you get the Jewish mafia down in Jerusalem 269 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,000 who has completely messed up the temple. 270 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,520 It's become a money-making scheme where they've gotten rich off the back of people who actually 271 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:39,520 love God. 272 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:40,520 That is not the intention. 273 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:41,520 No. 274 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:47,000 And there is a lot of woes that are said throughout the New Testament and with Jesus about the 275 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,480 religious leadership. 276 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,120 Now I want to specify leadership because I think we have a tendency to try to throw every 277 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,960 Jew under the bus. 278 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,920 When they're talking about somebody specific, I was actually talking to a friend of mine 279 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,520 and he was like, the gospel of John says that the Jews did blah, blah, blah, blah. 280 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,520 I said, just made that quote. 281 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:16,200 And I said, okay, but John was a Jew and Jesus was a Jew and Mary was a Jew and Peter was 282 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,600 a Jew. 283 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,680 So which Jews is he talking about? 284 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:20,680 He's like the nation. 285 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:25,840 I was like, so all of the disciples also participated in Christ's crucifixion. 286 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:26,840 He's like, no. 287 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,840 And I was like, okay, so the people who were in Capernaum, they participated in Christ's 288 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:30,840 crucifixion. 289 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:31,840 No. 290 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,040 I was like, okay, so then who do you think they might be talking about? 291 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,400 And I tried to ask questions because I try not to tell people things, but I ask them 292 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,440 because I want them to discover it themselves. 293 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,120 But in the gospel of John, a lot of the times who is opposing Jesus, it's when he's in 294 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,320 Jerusalem and it's the Jewish leadership. 295 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,320 Yeah. 296 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,880 Specifically, the Jerusalem Jewish leadership. 297 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,160 I think it's interesting that Jesus spends like three and a half years with the Pharisees 298 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,400 in Capernaum in the triangle. 299 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,720 He spends a week with the leadership and they crucify him. 300 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:02,720 Yeah. 301 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,320 And Jesus, like a lot of times, like when we read into the New Testament, we read it 302 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,200 as Jesus was picking fights with them. 303 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,000 He wasn't picking fights with the Pharisees. 304 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,720 He did stand strong when they tried to trap him or trick him. 305 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,960 Jesus wasn't actually going out of his way to fight them. 306 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,800 Even that piece where he says, you worship your father who is the devil, it's actually 307 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,480 in response to something they said. 308 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:26,480 Yeah. 309 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,480 Yeah. 310 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,720 And I think there's some to be noted there for us because a lot of times we can go on 311 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,440 and be like, we got to stand up for the truth. 312 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,400 Yes, we got to stand up for the truth, but we don't need to go out of our way to beat 313 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,400 other people up about it with it. 314 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,040 I guess it depends on what you mean by stand up for the truth. 315 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,120 Because I think sometimes this question, they say we have to stand for truth. 316 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,060 And I was like, okay. 317 00:14:48,060 --> 00:14:50,360 So are you standing for truth in the way that you love your neighbor? 318 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,360 Uh huh. 319 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,000 Are you going to stand for the truth in the way that you take care of the outcast, the 320 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,000 widow, the foreigner? 321 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,160 Are you going to stand for the truth when you sit next to the homeless person on the 322 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:00,640 street and have a conversation with them? 323 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,380 I think standing for the truth is incredibly important, but if your life doesn't demonstrate 324 00:15:05,380 --> 00:15:08,400 that you stand for truth, why suddenly this one piece? 325 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,160 And I think that you can boil a lot of it down to politics. 326 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,560 Oh yeah. 327 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,040 Which is wildly uncomfortable people. 328 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,040 And I get that. 329 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,040 I get that. 330 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:21,360 A lot of times we're using the Bible to back up our political or personal ideology rather 331 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,360 than letting the Bible speak and respond to the truth that's presented. 332 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Yeah. 333 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,880 And to be clear, Ben and I don't care what side of the political aisle you sit on. 334 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:30,880 Oh no. 335 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:31,880 No, we don't. 336 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:32,880 We really don't care on that. 337 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:33,920 But we do care about those. 338 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:39,440 We hope that this conversation is spurring you into a spot where you are better in a 339 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:44,720 better relationship with God, loving him with everything you have, and then loving your 340 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,480 community with all that you have. 341 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,000 I am not concerned or whether you're a Republican, independent, or a Democrat. 342 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Yeah, me neither. 343 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,360 I am much more concerned that you have the presence of Jesus inside of you. 344 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,360 Yep. 345 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,360 Because that's going to override. 346 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,480 We're not part of a democracy in Christianity. 347 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,280 We're part of a monarchy. 348 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,360 So we follow King Jesus. 349 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,960 So it's really important that we understand what he's saying. 350 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,320 And he's speaking into a context, hence why we're in Leviticus. 351 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,320 Yeah. 352 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,800 Which ties us back into this whole priest idea where I've had this conversation one 353 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,360 time where I had someone come up to me and they're like, Jesus was like the original 354 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,360 Democrat. 355 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,360 I was like, actually he wasn't. 356 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,680 He's the heir to the kingdom and we are his priests. 357 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,800 So he wasn't the original. 358 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,760 He didn't even operate in the same political system we have. 359 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:32,800 He is the heir to the kingdom of heaven and we are his priests seated at his right hand. 360 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,800 Yeah. 361 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,960 He is our high priest and we operate underneath him. 362 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:36,960 Yep. 363 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:37,960 Yeah. 364 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:43,240 So the role of priesthood becomes really important that you actually speak only what God says. 365 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,240 Right? 366 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,840 You actually repeat the message of God. 367 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,160 Throughout the Bible though, there are multiple instances, especially in the prophets. 368 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,440 You're going to see a lot of this in the prophets where God really goes after the leadership, 369 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,640 specifically the priesthood. 370 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,640 One of my favorite quotes is actually from Isaiah. 371 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,240 It's one that people misquote all the time, but it talks about the righteousness being 372 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,240 as filthy rags. 373 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,240 Yeah. 374 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,680 So you read that section of Isaiah, what he said, he's talking about, they're doing these 375 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,680 offerings. 376 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,360 Now, remember, we talked about offerings. 377 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:13,560 They're meant to bring you into relationship with God. 378 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,560 Yeah. 379 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:19,440 They're supposed to be a thing that brings you, it's a noun, it's a noun thing that you 380 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:24,120 bring, you cast your identity onto it and it draws you verb wise to God. 381 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:25,120 Right? 382 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:29,680 It's about relationship and they're doing all of these sacrifices, but he says that 383 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:39,740 their hearts are far from him and he says, so it's disgusting because you're pretending 384 00:17:39,740 --> 00:17:43,400 like you want to be around me. 385 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,200 You're doing things to say you want to be around me, but you don't want to be there. 386 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,200 Yeah. 387 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:53,400 It's when my son comes in and he's, dad, I love you. 388 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,640 Sits on the opposite side of the room and doesn't engage with you the rest of the time. 389 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,600 And then he's done and he says, all right, can I be out of time out now? 390 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,660 Dude, you're not even anywhere near me. 391 00:18:04,660 --> 00:18:05,880 You know what I mean? 392 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,360 We're not connecting here. 393 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:11,440 This is not about, we have not come together in any sort of relationship fashion. 394 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,800 Your heart is far from me. 395 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,760 I am not a vending machine that you can punch a bunch of buttons to get stuff. 396 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,760 Yeah. 397 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,720 Which by the way, is a bad theology. 398 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,160 And I think the tendency with that, I'm going to pick on this a little bit. 399 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,280 We're going to talk sometime about people who abuse the promises of God. 400 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:29,280 Yeah. 401 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,840 But I want to say one, you need to have grace with people who do that because sometimes 402 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,160 they're operating in faith, just trying to engage God. 403 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,160 Yeah. 404 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,160 And God has patience with them. 405 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,160 Yeah. 406 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,400 But God is not a vending machine, but he does want to pour out blessing. 407 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:45,000 And so there's two different things that we run into when we're coming to God. 408 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,480 One we run into people who think that they can manipulate God to do what they want. 409 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:49,480 That's bad. 410 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,480 Yeah. 411 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,560 The other side is that there are people who never ask God for anything because they don't 412 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,720 trust him to do it. 413 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:57,720 That's bad too. 414 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,200 So you have to view this in the eyes and context of relationship. 415 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,480 Imagine if you invited somebody to coffee. 416 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,640 Okay. 417 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:10,080 And then you sat them one corner of the coffee shop, and then you went and sat in the other 418 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,720 corner of the coffee shop and didn't talk to them the whole time. 419 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,040 And I've heard that analogy before. 420 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,040 I had someone share that with me. 421 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,720 Okay, now imagine that's how you treated your relationship with God. 422 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:21,720 That is how we treat our relationship. 423 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,720 Oh, it is. 424 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:23,720 It is. 425 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:30,140 I suspect a lot of Sunday mornings that people go into their churches and that God never actually 426 00:19:30,140 --> 00:19:32,320 is present. 427 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Now obviously he's omnipresent. 428 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,600 Yeah. 429 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,160 But we're never awake to God's presence. 430 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,720 And people think it was a great service. 431 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,720 Yeah. 432 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,000 I would say that if we don't waken to the reality of God in the room, that it wasn't 433 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,000 a church service at all. 434 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,000 It was a social gathering. 435 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,800 Yeah, absolutely. 436 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:53,860 Oftentimes this is how we treat our relationship with God is we're like, okay, I spent time 437 00:19:53,860 --> 00:19:59,360 with God, okay, on opposite ends of the room with 30 people in between you. 438 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:04,360 Did you really spend time with him or was he just in the same room with you? 439 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:06,760 Did you actually sit down and have a conversation with him? 440 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,440 Did you actually sit down and enjoy that cup of coffee with him? 441 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,920 When you get into the priesthood, this is what they're talking about is we're going 442 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:21,560 to establish an order that helps us draw closer to God into better relationship with God. 443 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:26,880 And you see this through Leviticus 8 when one of the first things that God does is he 444 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,400 commands Moses to do a series of offerings to ordain the priesthood. 445 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:38,080 And so Moses goes through and he does these offerings and towards the end of it, Aaron's 446 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:45,440 garments get sprinkled with oil and blood to purify, to cleanse so that he could then 447 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,360 serve as his role. 448 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:51,220 Because up to this point, the people themselves have said, we don't want God to speak directly 449 00:20:51,220 --> 00:20:52,220 to us. 450 00:20:52,220 --> 00:20:53,220 We want him to speak to God and then bring his word. 451 00:20:53,220 --> 00:20:56,300 So Moses is saying is speaking with the authority of God. 452 00:20:56,300 --> 00:21:03,600 So now they see him purifying Aaron with the blood and stepping into his role as high priest. 453 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,600 Yeah. 454 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:10,560 And what he's doing is he's passing on this authority from himself to someone else. 455 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,120 By the way, someone else who has messed up. 456 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:14,120 Yep. 457 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:16,200 Someone else who has screwed up, someone else who is not perfect. 458 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,200 Yeah. 459 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,740 By any means, someone else who arguably, if you look at Aaron's life, is probably not 460 00:21:20,740 --> 00:21:22,680 the best father. 461 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,360 And we can get into that later. 462 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:26,320 But man, are we going to talk about Nate having to buy him? 463 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,040 Because that is an interesting story. 464 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,040 Are we? 465 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,040 Are we? 466 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,040 Yeah. 467 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,640 I wasn't going to go, I wasn't going to fully go there. 468 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,640 I was just going to- 469 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,640 I was just going to go to the movies maybe next week. 470 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,440 I was just getting a little teaser. 471 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,720 But that's what's going on here is you have the authority being passed down from God to 472 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:46,160 Moses and then Moses saying, okay, I'm passing it from myself to Aaron and his priesthood. 473 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,160 Yeah. 474 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:53,280 And I hope you can see the similarity there of God passing the authority down through 475 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,560 Jesus and Jesus passing it to us. 476 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,400 In fact, in the Gospel of John, I believe it's in the Gospel of John, there's two guys 477 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,880 by the name of James and John, sons of Zebedee. 478 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,560 They're called sons of thunder. 479 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,400 Because they often had a lot of sound and not a lot of action behind it. 480 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,400 Yeah. 481 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,400 No, I don't know. 482 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,400 That's why. 483 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,000 But I'm just- so when they're in Samaria, there are some people who don't treat them 484 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,500 particularly well. 485 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:16,720 And so they come to Jesus and they're like, ah, you know what, Jesus, let's just call 486 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,720 it out. 487 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:18,720 Fire from heaven. 488 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:19,720 Now first- 489 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,720 Burn it to the ground. 490 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,720 Now first of all, they're actually quoting scripture. 491 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,960 10 points to anybody who can find that. 492 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,960 But I'm not going to give it to you. 493 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,960 You got to go- 494 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:26,960 Are we starting a point system? 495 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:27,960 Sure. 496 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:28,960 Okay. 497 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:29,960 Yeah. 498 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,920 Tell you what, if you email us and we give you 10 points, if you get a hundred points, 499 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,280 we're going to give you a shout out on the podcast. 500 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,280 Uh huh. 501 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,280 Yeah. 502 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,280 Yeah. 503 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,080 Anyways, 10 points if you can tell me the verse that they're actually quoting about 504 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,560 fire down from heaven. 505 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,560 Without Googling it. 506 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,560 Honestly, I don't even care. 507 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,960 How you Google it, it's totally fine. 508 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:49,200 And Jesus goes, no, that's not what we're doing. 509 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,240 And he takes them. 510 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,040 But then you know what happens almost immediately after? 511 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,640 He sends them out to heal people, drive out demons, and proclaim the gospel. 512 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,720 Wait, he sent messed up people who just called violence on a whole town? 513 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,720 Yes. 514 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:04,720 Oh. 515 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,000 It seems like Jesus knows something else about leadership that we do not. 516 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Uh huh. 517 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,000 Uh huh. 518 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Now, please don't mishear me. 519 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,880 What I am not saying is that if you have somebody who's trying to burn a city down, you should 520 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,680 send them out on a mission trip. 521 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,680 Okay. 522 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,000 That is, I think also maybe foolhardy, right? 523 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,280 But it seems like Jesus is concerned about different things than we are. 524 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,280 And he's also not concerned about the mess. 525 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,280 He's looking for the passion. 526 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Yeah. 527 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,200 And he says, we can correct the mess, but we can't create passion. 528 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,200 Yeah. 529 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:36,240 So the priesthood is supposed to like, like you said, they get it from Moses. 530 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,240 It goes to Aaron. 531 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,760 It goes out to his people. 532 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,480 They're teaching the entire nation how to be different. 533 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,740 Now next week, we're going to talk about the works of the law. 534 00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:45,480 That is called mixate altura. 535 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,480 Yeah. 536 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,080 So that just flows off your tongue, right? 537 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,080 The works of the law. 538 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,000 And looking ahead, you probably want to read the book of Galatians because it's going to 539 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,640 reference a lot of the things we're going to talk about next week. 540 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,440 And the works of the law are the things that make you Jewish. 541 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,440 Yeah. 542 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,880 Not wearing circumcision, not wearing blended fabrics, not cutting the corners of your field, 543 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,080 having tassels on the end of your robe, like a lot of these types of things, right? 544 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,200 These are the works of the law. 545 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,880 And these are things that are meant to put God on display because they're supposed to 546 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:15,880 put God on display. 547 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,720 And so the priesthood is not helping people navigate atonement. 548 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,360 It's helping them navigate relationship with God. 549 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:24,800 And it's also teaching them how to put God on display for everybody else around them. 550 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,800 Yeah. 551 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,380 One of the main issues that Israel keeps running into all throughout the Bible is they want 552 00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:32,200 to look like everybody else. 553 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:37,000 And God's like, no, I want you to look different than everybody else. 554 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,720 Think about like when they want Saul as a king, they're like, we need a king who will 555 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:46,720 go before us and fight just like everybody else. 556 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,480 How does that work out for them? 557 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,480 Not so great. 558 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,480 Not so great. 559 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,480 Not so great. 560 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,480 Yeah. 561 00:24:52,480 --> 00:25:01,000 There is a lot of words in the Old and New Testament about shepherds, priests, leadership, 562 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,440 people who lead and don't put the heart of God on display. 563 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,760 What happens when you actually abuse your authority? 564 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,760 Yeah. 565 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,760 Okay. 566 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:16,880 And I want to be really careful here because I don't want to minimize anybody's past experience. 567 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:22,840 There has been people, probably people in your life in leadership or otherwise, who 568 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,640 have fallen significantly. 569 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,640 Yeah. 570 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,640 In significant ways. 571 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,120 There are two things that I think that we need to know here. 572 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:33,720 So first thing I'm saying is that every leader has a responsibility to obey God and that 573 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,440 you should never sweep abuse or any of those things under the rug. 574 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,160 No, they need to be addressed. 575 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,160 Yes. 576 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,720 We also believe God is bigger than the abuse, but he's not going to take away the consequences 577 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,200 of sin, right? 578 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,200 And so like we need to hold leadership accountable. 579 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:54,840 The other side of it, and this is just coming from 36 years of watching people in ministry 580 00:25:54,840 --> 00:26:01,320 and leadership, we put our leaders on such a high platform that it's not surprising that 581 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,840 they fall off and break their leg. 582 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,020 Yeah. 583 00:26:05,020 --> 00:26:06,720 It's very true. 584 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,520 That is so true. 585 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,020 One of the things that we often do in church, and this is just really sad and just kind 586 00:26:13,020 --> 00:26:17,560 of just play off what you said, is what we'll do is we'll put a leader in place and we'll 587 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,880 be like, okay, now you do everything for me. 588 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,480 Correct. 589 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,240 That's not their job. 590 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,120 That's not their role. 591 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:33,840 Their role is to empower you to partner with you, partner with me. 592 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,460 That's what they're called to do. 593 00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:37,640 They're not called to do it all for you. 594 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,640 Right? 595 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,900 And so what we do is we get, we put leaders in places, we're like, hey, you do everything 596 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:46,560 for me, and then when they start doing things that don't quite line up with how you thought 597 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,400 it was going to be, get done, you send the wonderful pastoral email out and you're like, 598 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,360 hey, pastor, we need to talk. 599 00:26:55,360 --> 00:27:01,040 And it's no wonder we have people who step out of ministry who get burnt out because 600 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,740 they're trying to partner with you. 601 00:27:02,740 --> 00:27:06,040 And that's what the priesthood is trying to do in Leviticus as well as they're trying 602 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,240 to partner with the people. 603 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,200 Paul referencing this idea, we talked about it earlier in Ephesians, makes this statement. 604 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,800 I'm going to read it straight from the NIV. 605 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,800 It's chapter four verse 11. 606 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:25,560 So Christ himself, Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the 607 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:36,040 pastors, and the teachers to equip his people for works of service so that the body of Christ 608 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:42,120 may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the son 609 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:48,560 of God and become mature, attending to the whole measure of the fullness of God. 610 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,760 And you think it stops there, but it doesn't. 611 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,400 Then we will no longer be infants tossed back and forth by the waves and blown here and 612 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,080 there by every wind of teaching and by cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful 613 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,080 scheming. 614 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,680 Instead speaking the truth and love, we will grow to become in every respect, the mature 615 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,680 body of him who is the head that is Christ. 616 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,680 Yeah. 617 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,680 Okay. 618 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,640 How many times have you heard talking about speaking truth in love? 619 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:20,560 Well, understanding it's from the context of when you have a bunch of children that 620 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:26,940 aren't actually recognizing that they're being equipped for ministry, then you're not able 621 00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:28,400 to speak truth and love. 622 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,760 Can we point out something in that little passage right there? 623 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,600 When it talks about actually theology and knowledge, that is actually in the part of 624 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,820 that passage where it's talking about being tossed by the wind and the waves. 625 00:28:41,820 --> 00:28:49,160 When it talks about being unified, it talks about service, being equipped and serving 626 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,680 one another. 627 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,680 Yeah. 628 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,980 So modern church, including us at times, right? 629 00:28:56,980 --> 00:29:00,880 Stop fighting about dumb things. 630 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,820 Find ways to have real conversations. 631 00:29:02,820 --> 00:29:07,920 The reason we have the Love in Context podcast is to have unscripted real conversations about 632 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,920 following God. 633 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,120 Yes, we want to add context to the Bible, all of these different things. 634 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,780 We want to correct some things that are probably unbiblical theologies. 635 00:29:15,780 --> 00:29:20,040 If you still hold them, I'm going to love you anyways. 636 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,280 And if we're able to come together in unity of love for each other, then I may be able 637 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,960 to speak truth and love to you and help fix some of those things. 638 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,880 And you may be able to speak truth and love to me. 639 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,460 And if some of those things are very minor, like small minuscule things that have nothing 640 00:29:34,460 --> 00:29:38,600 to do with our salvation or nothing to do with our walk with Jesus, nothing to do with 641 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,680 our relationship with him, okay, then why are we talking about it? 642 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,400 Other than the fact that I'm going to email the pastors right now and say, we have to 643 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,400 have dark roast coffee in church on Sundays. 644 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,700 Medium and light roast is a no-go 100%. 645 00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:52,880 But that's actually a passage from the book of Second Opinion. 646 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,320 The best thing is our pastoral staff actually listen to this. 647 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,880 So they're going to hear that and they're going to be like, really Spencer? 648 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:58,880 Come on. 649 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:06,060 There are so many things that we just get bent out of shape over that really don't matter. 650 00:30:06,060 --> 00:30:11,720 And really when we get bent out of shape over it, who are we serving? 651 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:17,120 So the priesthood in the Old Testament is meant to teach the entire nation how to be 652 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,120 priests. 653 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,120 Yeah. 654 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:24,600 Pastoral leadership, prophets, apostles, evangelists, all of them are meant to equip the body to 655 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,820 be those things to the world. 656 00:30:27,820 --> 00:30:33,840 One of the things we can pull from Leviticus is God is very concerned, not about you, but 657 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,800 how are you being a conduit? 658 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:44,080 And to give you an example of that, Leviticus 9 verse 7 says, Moses said to Aaron, come 659 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,820 to the altar, sacrifice your sin offering and your burn offering to purify yourself 660 00:30:49,820 --> 00:30:53,520 and the people. 661 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,240 Okay. 662 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:03,560 Then present the offerings of the people to purify them, making them right with God just 663 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,680 as he has commanded. 664 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,680 Right? 665 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:12,600 Like the idea of the priesthood is not just for the priest to say, all right, here's the 666 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,400 list of things that you're supposed to do, not do all that. 667 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:22,160 It's actually so that they can come help stand in the gap for you, stand in the gap with 668 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,160 you. 669 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,160 Yeah. 670 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:31,200 It's always interesting to me when I hear people talk about the law, man, they're like, 671 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,800 the law is oppressive and law is this and we're now free from the laws. 672 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,480 Like, first of all, that's actually not what Jesus says, but we'll talk about that some 673 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,480 other time. 674 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,200 Because like second of all, the Jews thought of the law as their wedding gifts. 675 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,440 Yeah. 676 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,440 It's precious. 677 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,440 It's precious to them. 678 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,680 God has told you exactly who he is with his law. 679 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:54,640 Now, I think it's really possible to read it as a 20th century American and completely 680 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,960 misunderstand what God is saying. 681 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,160 In fact, we're going to talk about that in an episode we're going to call the weird ones. 682 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,160 Yeah. 683 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,400 God is putting his character on display and he's speaking into a context and telling them 684 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,180 how to be completely different and his people are supposed to be different and his priesthood 685 00:32:08,180 --> 00:32:11,600 is to teach his people how to be different so that they can go be different for the nations 686 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:18,480 so that all people, every nation, every tongue would bow and see that Yahweh is God. 687 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,440 It's almost like they're supposed to love in context. 688 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,440 Hence the name. 689 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,440 Yeah. 690 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,440 It's trademark. 691 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,440 It's trademark. 692 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,880 That's how you trademark things. 693 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,880 You just say trademark. 694 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,880 Just say trademark. 695 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,240 So yeah, that's how this is supposed to be. 696 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,240 Yeah. 697 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,440 So when you are a leader and you take on the responsibility to equip the saints and you 698 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:46,680 don't actually step into your role, you actually use it to promote self, that is a very dangerous 699 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,160 position to be because it's not just you, but it's the people who are supposed to be 700 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,880 touched by you that are being affected. 701 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,080 And I guarantee you it would be better for you to have a millstone tied around your neck 702 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:03,800 and chucked into the sea than to lead one of the little ones astray. 703 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,560 You're teaching people to behave in such a way they don't put God on display. 704 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,920 I wasn't sure if I was going to bring this up, but I think this is a good place to close 705 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:11,920 it. 706 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,920 All right. 707 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,920 Jesus made a comment about false prophets. 708 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,320 He says that, beware of false prophets for they are wolves in sheep's clothing. 709 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,040 And people quote that all the time. 710 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,040 You will know them by their fruit. 711 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,040 Okay. 712 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,520 Jesus talks about fruit in a number of different places. 713 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,040 One of the most famous is in John 15. 714 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,260 He says, I am the true vine. 715 00:33:31,260 --> 00:33:32,960 You are the branches. 716 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,200 If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit because apart from me, you 717 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,420 can do nothing. 718 00:33:38,420 --> 00:33:44,080 One of the reasons people get upset with me very often is because I'm not willing to say 719 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,800 somebody is outside of the faith when I see fruit. 720 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,800 Yeah. 721 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,360 Now I want to really specify here. 722 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:56,580 There are some people who there's very little fruit in their life, but it's clear that they're 723 00:33:56,580 --> 00:33:59,040 connected to the vine because it is definitely fruit of Jesus. 724 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,560 A lot of what they teach doesn't produce fruit. 725 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,520 Now this is both conservative and liberal. 726 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,520 You're paying with a broad stroke. 727 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,640 It's a broad stroke. 728 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,000 There's a lot of people all over the spectrum. 729 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,640 There's not one particular teacher. 730 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,320 What I do is I look to see where is the fruit? 731 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,000 What produces love, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, knowledge, gentleness, self-control? 732 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,480 What produces the righteousness of God in the world? 733 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,840 What helps put the story of Jesus and the fact that the kingdom of heaven is here and 734 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,200 ready to be interacted with on display? 735 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,520 Yeah. 736 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,220 And if I see that in a person, then I know that they're connected to Jesus. 737 00:34:35,220 --> 00:34:41,240 And then everything from that point is how can I get together with them to expand that 738 00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:43,600 to other parts of their life? 739 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,800 Yeah. 740 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,000 And so I'm not looking for the bad things that people do. 741 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,840 I'm looking for where are they connected to Jesus and how do we grow that? 742 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,580 Absolutely. 743 00:34:52,580 --> 00:34:58,080 It's almost like you should look at the good and pull that out of people's life. 744 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,080 Yeah. 745 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,080 Yeah. 746 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,080 Absolutely. 747 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:07,480 I think the tendency that we have had, especially over the last 200 years in American Christianity, 748 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,080 and this is broad strokes once again, because there are some churches that are fantastic 749 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,080 at this. 750 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,760 They're fantastic at finding the fruit in people and harvesting it. 751 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:21,080 A lot of times in the last 200 years, a lot of theologians, a lot of historians, a lot 752 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,960 of especially denominational theology has been about, let me tell you about this denominations 753 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,600 bad branch and this person's bad fruit. 754 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,680 Let me tell you about how wrong you are, how fallen you are. 755 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,680 Yeah. 756 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,680 The things that you're doing horrible. 757 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,360 How do we fix that? 758 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,960 And I'm not saying that there's no concern about that. 759 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,120 Those concerns, those theological concerns are addressed with truth and love when you 760 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,800 are unified in the spirit. 761 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,120 When you have a brand of compassion for one another, you're walking in love and unity 762 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,400 with each other, then you're able to speak truth and love. 763 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,400 You cannot speak truth before love. 764 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,400 Absolutely. 765 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:05,360 So, everybody who has a job, there's parts of your job that you're really good at. 766 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,600 There's parts of your job that you probably need improvement on. 767 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,200 If my boss came to me and only hounded me about the parts of my job that I was not good 768 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,440 at, what do you think I would do? 769 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,440 Probably quit. 770 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,440 Probably. 771 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,440 Yeah. 772 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,440 Because it's not a place where I'm being valued. 773 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,560 If my boss came to me and actually pulled out the things that were good and then helped 774 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,720 me work on the things that I need improvement on, I'm more likely to stay. 775 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:35,440 We as a church, we've often flipped that and we've been like, okay, I see all the bad you're 776 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,680 doing over here. 777 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,360 Let's fix that. 778 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,880 Or bad from my perspective. 779 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,880 Yeah. 780 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,880 Let's fix that. 781 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,880 Okay. 782 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,160 Versus being like, oh, here's all the good things these people are doing. 783 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,160 Yeah. 784 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,160 They have some rough edges. 785 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,160 Absolutely. 786 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,160 Yeah. 787 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,960 Spoiler alert, we all do. 788 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,400 And I will say that you all can hold us accountable. 789 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,560 If you ever hear us talking about somebody in the faith in a negative way on the podcast, 790 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,280 you are more than welcome to call us out and we will apologize. 791 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,280 Absolutely. 792 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,600 Because our goal is never to tear anybody else down. 793 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,320 If somebody is going to remove them from the position, it's going to be God and not us. 794 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,320 Yes. 795 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,520 We are going to display Jesus and allow his presence and his spirit to change the world 796 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,520 around us. 797 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,520 Yes. 798 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,280 It's probably a good place for us to stop understanding like the role of priest is to 799 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,560 actually be a conduit of heaven to earth. 800 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,560 Yeah. 801 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,720 To equip the people around you, the people that are part of your community, the chosen 802 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:32,400 people to actually put it on display for the world so that God's grace doesn't stay just 803 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,240 in the church but flows from the church to the world. 804 00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:36,240 Yes. 805 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:37,240 Yes. 806 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:38,240 Yeah. 807 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:39,240 So good. 808 00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:40,240 Thank you for joining us today. 809 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,600 Lots of places you can find us nowadays. 810 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,960 So yeah, let's see. 811 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,520 Amazon, YouTube, Apple, Spotify. 812 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,640 We have a TikTok. 813 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,640 We have Instagram. 814 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,080 We have Facebook. 815 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,200 We got a little bit of everything and a little bit of nothing. 816 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,200 If you guys have questions as you're listening, we do have an episode coming up as a Q&A at 817 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,200 the end of Leviticus. 818 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,200 But if you're listening to this episode, it might be too late to submit questions. 819 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,120 But do keep submitting questions because we're going to do a Q&A every three or four months. 820 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,120 Yeah. 821 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,120 Yeah. 822 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,120 Sounds good. 823 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,520 Thanks for joining us and until next time. 824 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,640 That's a wrap for today's episode. 825 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,800 We want to extend a heartfelt thank you for tuning in and spending your valuable time 826 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,800 with us. 827 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:25,520 We hope that you found today's conversation insightful and that you take something meaningful 828 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,520 from it. 829 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,320 If you have questions or comments, we would love to hear from you. 830 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:36,920 Reach out to us at loveandcontext.gmail.com and we will be sure to get back to you. 831 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,840 Remember you can always engage with our content on all your favorite listening platforms, 832 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,600 including Apple, Spotify, Amazon, YouTube and more. 833 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:51,120 Don't forget to follow us on social media at loveandcontext on Instagram and Facebook 834 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,120 for updates. 835 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,160 Hey, do you think we should bring Roman numerals back? 836 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,520 I was like, because I'm for one. 837 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,200 Oh no, it's I see what's going on here. 838 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,200 It's talking to you. 839 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,200 I'm not making. 840 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,720 No, I had the microphone on and it was voice texting words in here. 841 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:04,200 I was like, what in the world is going on? 842 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:19,200 What's happening?