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our website as well, but it's crazy.

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I mean people's gardens are like, this one lady took a piece of copper, wrapped it in

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a spiral, put it around a tomato plant.

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Her tomato plant is 18 feet tall.

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And she's like, I've never seen something like this before.

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And I go, it's hilarious because that probably cost you about 50 cents.

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Greetings and love, beautiful humans.

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It's Ben and our guest this week is Matt Roskey.

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Matt is the co-founder of Cultivate Elevate and a purveyor of old world knowledge, which

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as it turns out, isn't always that old.

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Case in point, electroculture, which is a focus of our conversation and absolutely something

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you should try if you are growing any sort of plant or vegetable in your life.

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It's easy and inexpensive to set up and maybe a huge asset to anyone interested in self-sustainability.

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We also touch on primal water, 2,000 pound pumpkins, why you should switch to linen and

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why you might want to ditch those LED bulbs.

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Let's do this thing.

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Welcome back to Terrain Theory.

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Okay, we are live.

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Matt Roskey, welcome to the Terrain Theory podcast.

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Happy to be here.

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Let's start.

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We always like to start, not always, but sometimes like to start with some backstory.

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I think our audience would like to learn a little bit more about who you are and how

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you got to this point in time.

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So I'm Matt and I'm the co-founder of Cultivate Elevate.

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And we started our company to bring forth ancient knowledge and also solutions to the

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nonsense that we face.

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And another thing that we're big on is getting rid of the fear.

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We are always hit with this fear tactics by the media and the nonsense that they promote,

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you know, with Operation Mockingbird and MK Alter and all of that.

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And we're really against all of that and really providing solutions, whether it's on our health,

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whether it's our terrain, our home, whatever it may be, but we're trying to really combat

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all the stuff in which we face all the time.

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So I got into holistic medicine, healing, and understanding aerobatic medicine and all

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of these different natural techniques years ago when I was in the fitness world.

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I was in the fitness world.

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I experienced everything in the fitness world.

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I saw people do a thousand pound deadlifts, thousand pound squats.

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I've seen just about everything you can think of, but I also was very attracted to natural

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healing.

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And when I got into natural healing and understanding different things with mushrooms and chelajad

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and all these different superfoods, I gravitated a lot more towards that.

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And as I started to connect myself towards these natural healing methods, they started

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to connect me more to the earth, to the frequencies, to the energy, to our plants, to everything.

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And that's what drew me to Arizona as well too because of all of the energy that is in

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Arizona.

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There's a high, high level amount of magnetism here.

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And that drew me when I came here and it all kind of connected.

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And we had originally a lot of health issues.

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I had allergies.

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I had skin issues.

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I had tonsillitis.

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I had all these problems.

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And when I started cleaning up my terrain, started healing my body, started eating organic,

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started eating superfoods, started barefoot grounding, everything pretty much went away.

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And I realized this is really simple and everybody should be able to do this and it

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should not cost millions of dollars.

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And we should not be part of this sick care system that continuously is making profit off

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of us and never providing a solution to the root cause.

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And that's where I started understanding, okay, let's look at certain foods in certain

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ways such as a certain mushroom like lion's mane that can help turn on the brain and regenerate

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neural pathways or dragon's blood, which works on the regeneration of stem cells and skin

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cells.

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So there are these different things that are out in nature that can heal us naturally without

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any problems.

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And let's use those and clean up also our home as well too at the same time.

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And that's what we talk about a lot with that.

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But let's do all of those things and we can have a better society.

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And once we are healthy, in my opinion, like a healthy society is an unstoppable society.

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You don't have to worry about someone trying to take over trying to push you over or whatever

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else because you have your health and then you have your home.

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And once you have all of that, you pretty much have all your independence from everything

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else in which we're surrounded by.

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we are in now is one of like oppression and control and imprisonment disempowerment.

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It's really hard to push back, fight back when you are sick, when you are worried about

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where your food's going to come from, when you worry about how you're going to heat your

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home, when you're worried about how you're going to find access to clean water, when

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you're worried about, you know, people, people saying climate change, water rising, water

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scarcity, oil scarcity.

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And we're going to talk a little bit about that today, particularly around agriculture.

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So electroculture is one of the topics that you've been hitting on lately and one of the

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ones that we talked about back and forth prior to the show that we would hit on.

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I'm fascinated by it.

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It addresses the issue of growing your own food, but also abundance, sort of supporting

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the population of humans out there using an alternative to fertilizer, essentially, right?

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You wouldn't have to use any of those three.

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Electroculture is basically what you're doing is you're harnessing the earth's energy that's

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antennas up on top.

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building, they always have a little antenna on top.

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That's what they're trying to inform us that we're running out of these things.

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And you can make your own little types of antennas, whichever resonate with you and

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your frequency because every part of the land is different, right?

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Like depending on where you live, your frequency is different than if you live on the West

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There's different frequencies, different amounts of magnetism.

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start to notice your plants will grow faster.

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that are two, three times the size.

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too because they're big into frequency.

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increasing the magnetism.

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What's happening now is with all these cell phone towers and antennas and all this other

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nonsense that they're rolling out, it's impacting our soil and decimating the magnetism of that

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this was fascinating, when we use iron tools and we place them into the soil, we decimate

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the magnetism of the soil.

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harder when we use iron tools because iron, it's very hard because it has to go against

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the magnetism of the earth to go into the soil.

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So he proposed in the 1940s that people should be using copper tools and he created a copper

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bioplow, which is really cool.

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It was one of his creations.

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they didn't want to do this because it works against the kickbacks that they were getting

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from the fertilizer companies at that time.

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to state that if you use copper tools and you're a farmer, you're going to grow too

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much food, which is going to make you less money, which talk about an advertisement right

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there like you're going to have so much, you better you're not going to make any money.

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work and all of his other work, he did so much.

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I mean, he was a genius, but he did so much with vortexes, vortices, spirals, you know,

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primary water, the whole entire thing.

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and pretty much brought him here and tried to buy out all his patents, they actually

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scrapped all of his patents.

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But it's just, it's crazy because when you look at all of this, you know, we could be

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yielding so much food and that's what they were doing back in the day.

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They understood the magnetism of the earth.

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the energy that's all around us.

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chemical farming which blew up.

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need chemical drugs and you need to spray them all over your plants so that you can yield

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because he lived in the forest.

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They understood the forest.

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He understood everything about nature.

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droughts, you're going to have all this stagnant water because the soil is going to get all

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messed up.

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He not only did that, but he also created devices of free energy and the first flying

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saucer.

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It's basically, it looks like an oval and it would, it would just harness the energy

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that's spinning around us all the time and it would be able to take off and do all these

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different things.

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and how to harness it.

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plants as well too.

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Can I notice that you're drinking out of a copper cup?

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That's, that's not, that's not a coincidence.

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And when you start understanding the benefits of copper, it's just, it's remarkable.

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You know, it's a lot of stuff that we just haven't been told.

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And if we go back a little bit farther, now we go to like 1930s, you go to George Lakoff

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Ski and he was another guy who was big into copper and understood the benefits of copper.

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He created the Lakoff Ski coil, which was a simple coil that was made out of just a

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piece of copper wrapped around in a circle and you would wear it as a belt or you'd

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wear it on your wrist.

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things, all of their pain went away.

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He had books on books on books about how you could just take a simple copper coil, place

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it around the body and it would start to heal that area because of changing the magnetism.

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plants that had tumors on them, the tumors would completely fall off and the plant would

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grow three times the size, even if it was in a pot.

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he also was big into frequency and he understood the multi-wave oscillator, which is another

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things people should look into.

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it would emit a high pulsed frequency similar to a Tesla coil and people would sit in it

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for 15 minutes and they would be pretty much fixed from anything that they were suffering

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So, you know, when you understand that you can harness that energy that's right next

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to you, we can also use this energy not only to grow more food, but to heal our bodies,

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Because it all works hand in hand.

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These frequencies are being manipulated, which then impact our health, which also then impact

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the plants, the birds, the bees, the insects and everything else.

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When you harmonize them, then it starts to bring back all of that and then your health

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as well too.

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This is all very inspiring.

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So thank you for showering us with all these beautiful, this history and this intelligence

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and I'm loving it.

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Are you, do you presently garden?

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Are you using electroculture in your life right now?

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Yes.

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So, I, so facing back, if we go back one more little time frame just to throw one more person

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Yeah, do it.

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People can go through the time, but you have 1920s, you have just increased the flow and

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he created electroculture and tennis, which are atmospheric and tennis and he was here

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in America and they did not like his books.

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They suppressed a lot of his information because he learned you can use these antennas made

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from wood and brass basically and wood and copper and you could harness that energy.

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So what I did was I took some of his stuff that I saw on his books and I made atmospheric

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antennas and I placed them on my balcony.

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Now I have a balcony.

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It's not a large plot of land, but I get tons of messages of people with large plots of

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lands where their plants are blooming like no other.

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But anyway, so I have a Moringa tree and I've grown it from a baby and I put the, the different

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types of basically coils, copper coils, copper antennas in my plants to see what would happen.

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My Moringa tree grew to it's like 14 feet now.

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All the hummingbirds sit on there, the sparrows sit on there, the birds, anything you can

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think of sits next to the Moringa tree.

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And then on top of it, when I grew the Moringa pods, which are basically the seeds that grow

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on the Moringa tree, the average Moringa pod is six to eight inches.

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That's usually how large they grow.

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Mine were anywhere from 15 to 22 inches.

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Now they would have grown even larger, but we had to move the plant because they were

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painting.

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But so if you look at that, that's three times the size from six inches to 22 inches.

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That's almost three times the size of food.

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And that's what Justin Criestel flow was learning.

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He had cabbage that was like 12 feet, like 12 feet long.

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He had potatoes that were yielding two pounds per potato.

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He had tomatoes that would yield like, let's say a normal tomato plant would yield maybe

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20 tomatoes.

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He'd yield 50 to 60 to 100.

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And this all competed with the pesticide companies, fertilizer companies and all of the chemical

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companies.

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But when I started implementing this in my garden, I now, or my balcony, I should say,

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which I have all in pots and all different plants.

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I got a basil plant.

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I have a pepper plant.

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I have a mint plant.

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I mean, it's massive.

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I have all the hummingbirds.

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I have all the bees.

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I have crickets.

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I have a grasshopper that's about this large.

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I have a crank mantis.

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I have anything you can think of, like every insect possible on a balcony, and I'm on the

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third floor.

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So that's how much gravitation of energy that things pick up on that we're just not seeing.

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And that's the thing that's being impacted because we need all of these insects, birds,

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bees and all of that because without them, we don't have harmony.

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And then our plants basically can't function the way that they do because they need either

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pollinators or they need frequencies from the birds so that they can actually grow.

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That's actually part of it.

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And we can talk about that as well, too.

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So I was doing, I was doing a little, just a little bit of research on Justin Christoflo.

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Is that he pronounced his name?

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And I downloaded, I think it was from your blog, his book on electroculture and, you

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know, just to find out who this guy is.

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So he, this is interesting, he's a Knight of Merit of Agriculture.

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I'm going to read this.

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Gold medalist of Society of Encouragement for National Industries, member of Society of

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Scientists and Inventors of France, foundation member of National Society of Agriculture,

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member of Association of Manufacturers and Inventors of France.

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Like this guy has a, has a legit CV and his intro in this book is, is just fascinating

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if you read this first paragraph, if your curiosity is not peaked, then, you know, you

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don't belong in our species is what I say.

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And hearing you and hearing you talk about the anecdotal evidence, you know, firsthand

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experience, be it end of one or otherwise.

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Like, and not only that, but also the accessibility of this, like you're not having to invest

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thousands of dollars in, in a device, are you?

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This is something that you really can just make out of material you find at like Lowe's

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and Home Depot.

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Yeah, it's very simple.

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I mean, you can basically take a piece of wood dowel, right?

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You can find that around anywhere.

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You can even find wood in your backyard, right?

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Because it's already harmonized on the frequency of you and your house, right?

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So that's important.

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But you can take basically a piece of wood, wrap it with copper, right?

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You have copper and you just wrap it like a spiral, like a Fibonacci spiral or whatever

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spiral you would like, wrap it around, have one point facing up towards the sky and then

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the other point into the earth.

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And that's it.

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And it'll probably cost you two bucks, I'm going to say.

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And you just have to notice your plants just go wild, you know, because I get so many messages.

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I even started putting the videos up on like YouTube and even on our website as well.

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But it's crazy.

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I mean, people's gardens are like, this one lady took a piece of copper, wrapped it in

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a spiral, put it around a tomato plant.

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Her tomato plant is 18 feet tall.

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And she's like, I've never seen something like this before.

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And I go, it's hilarious because that probably costs you about 50 cents, you know, because

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like just the wire alone.

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But it's just harnessing because we need copper for the healing of the soil.

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And then because copper harnesses the energy.

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And that's why you see a lot of these old world buildings, like I was saying, they have

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these domes, or they have these old parts of the building that are all copper.

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If you go even to Chicago, for example, and you look at like, you know, these green statues,

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those used to be copper, you know, so we just, we don't see it anymore because it's turned

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green.

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But those all used to be copper.

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And that's how they harness all that free energy and how they would basically have lights

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run for free.

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And they could harness the healing powers as well too.

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Yeah.

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So I've been, and I've looked into this little bit and we're some students of, I don't even

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know what word to use, but sort of like alternative history or hidden history or, and one of the

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questions I keep saying to myself or asking is, you know, if this is possible, why isn't

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anybody doing it?

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And that's, I think I'm, I'm just like, I'm feeling really good about the fact that you're

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laying it down and you're doing it and you're telling all these sorts of people are doing

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it.

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I mean, I've cruised Instagram and I see these like old sepia tone photos of people practicing

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electroculture.

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And I think like, oh, how cool that they did that decades ago, but you're doing it today.

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And I've got, I've got, I'm sort of a button gardener myself.

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I just can't wait to, to get, spend my dollar 99 and get this cooking.

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Well, and the thing is too, is it's a very simple apparatus to put in, you know, and

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the more you put, obviously the more you'll harness and the taller you put it, the taller

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it'll go.

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That's the simple thing.

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Cause you're basically creating atmospheric antennas.

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And that's what electroculture was all about.

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And if we take it a step further, you have, I believe his name is Moses, which is a perfect

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name for it, but he created the atmospheric water generator.

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He's down, I believe in Texas, which basically pulls water out of the thin air.

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So all of this energy and all of these things are all around us.

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It's just up to us if we want to harness them.

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And a lot of this, I feel was either suppressed or pretty much removed from a lot of the textbooks.

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Like I have a lot of agriculture people who messaged, messaged me.

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They've never learned about any of this.

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A lot of farmers, but a lot of people also I've noticed definitely know about this because

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their grandma and grandpa used to take copper pennies and said, you got to throw them in

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the garden and let them do their thing.

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And it'll make your plants grow like crazy.

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And when you go to a wedding and they give you the bouquet, sometimes they put a copper

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penny in the bouquet, in the actual one that you're holding so that it stays for the next

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couple of days because they noticed that when you put that penny in there, that copper helps

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that plant live for the next, say, three to four days and look much better.

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So it's fascinating because it's such simple things and it all relates to pyramid energy.

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Right?

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Like when we go into this, it's all pyramid energy.

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Like pyramids, there's a whole hidden thing that goes with pyramid energy and electroculture.

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Both of those kind of pretty much go hand in hand because it deals with magnetism.

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And when you look at these pyramids that are placed all over, there's 2000 pyramids all

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over the planet.

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When you look at all of where the pyramids are, the gardens are also massive around them

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as well too.

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The areas in which we're very fertile have pyramids around them because they understood

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putting a pyramid on the lay lines with primary water underneath it, it would then harness

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that energy and increase the magnetism because of the composition of the materials that they

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were using.

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They were using magnetic and non-magnetic materials, placing them together to create

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a negative energy organ generator, which would then help the plants around it because the

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plants need negative ions versus all this stuff that we live in, all these toxic chemicals

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and all this other stuff create positive ions which impact our health, but then also impact

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our plants.

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So it's interesting because I've learned plants have sap, which is like blood, and humans

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have blood and it goes hand in hand.

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And when you put copper by your plants, you're enhancing their sap, which is their life force,

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and when you as a human wear copper or have copper in your body and you use a copper cup,

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you're enhancing your life force as well because they both go hand in hand, but a lot of it

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was hidden, like I was saying post World War II because the chemical farming had to take

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over and that's when they did the DDT push.

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DDT for me, DDT for this and DDT for that was a big attack on the birds and the bees

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and the insects and not only the humans, but especially the birds, the bees and the insects.

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And it's interesting because when I was getting into electroculture, I started studying people

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who use sound frequency to boost their crop yield.

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They would basically take a speaker.

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His name was Dan Carlson and he had a speaker box and he would emit bird chirping sounds

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to his plants.

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He'd spray them with a little fermented wine and he noticed his plants would grow 30 to

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60% within three months versus if he played loud music like rock music, the plants would

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actually move away from it because they didn't want to be by it and they would die within

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two weeks.

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So these are all frequencies and things that we cannot see, but they're impacting these

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things and when they sprayed all that DDT, they killed millions of birds, right?

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And those birds impact agriculture.

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So then they have to now, people now have to buy these drugs that they're spraying all

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over the plants to drug their plant to make it grow, but they're decimating the soil underneath

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without even realizing it.

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And then now you have this lifeless plant, which then leads to illness and then has now

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had that soil destroyed and then they got to spray more and more and more.

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It's this constant cycle where you're dependent on these chemical companies, but I want to

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just relate it in there so people can see it because there was a couple of people like

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Les Brown, which everyone should look into, who basically learned if you take a pyramid

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and you place it in your house and you put food on top, you could preserve it indefinitely

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because of the energy that's basically pulsing from the symbol of the pyramid.

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If you put the food inside the pyramid, you can do the exact same thing.

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So it was fascinating because he basically made a device and you can look up all his

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patents too as well, but he basically made a device where he had a bunch of little pyramids

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kind of like this.

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You put an egg on top of it and it would last forever.

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You didn't need a fridge.

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You don't need a freezer because it would just preserve it.

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So just the geometric form of the pyramid itself, regardless of material that you're

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using, harnesses some sort of magnetism that can preserve food without any sort of electricity.

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Pretty much.

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Yes.

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That's amazing.

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So we should all have pyramid shaped refrigerators that aren't plugged in.

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That would do it, right?

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That would be an easy thing.

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And that's the thing.

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Like all of these things in which we've been given in the new world, right?

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Because that's what we live in, the new world.

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We've been given all this technology that doesn't make a lot of sense, right?

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It doesn't make a lot of sense, but it makes a lot of money.

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So that's why they give us this technology.

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But when you look at it, it's not efficient.

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It leads, you look at your fridge, for example, it gets moldy.

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There's dampness.

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00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,520
There's wetness, all this stuff.

460
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,160
Half your stuff goes bad within, let's say a couple days, whatever it is, because of

461
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,280
the moisture.

462
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,160
But they were using pyramid energy to store things.

463
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,840
They also noticed, now we're going to take it to another step, is if you take a pyramid

464
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,360
and you place it in your backyard, you make it out of wood, you make it out of copper,

465
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:27,680
you could make it out of anything you want, and you take seeds, and you place those seeds

466
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,560
in the pyramids, and the Russians experimented with this.

467
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,720
But if you take those seeds and you place them in the pyramid, you will notice that

468
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,880
those seeds will be supercharged.

469
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,400
They will grow three to four to six times the size of the average seed.

470
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,760
They will also sprout 100%.

471
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,360
So that's another thing they learned.

472
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:50,680
If you take these certain shapes and you put things in them, they will start to sprout

473
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,280
faster and they will yield more.

474
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,600
And they've shown pictures, Russians have shown pictures of, for example, a seed in

475
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,200
a pyramid and a seed out in a control where it's just on a plate.

476
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,800
And the one with the plate, the girls, maybe three feet, the one in the pyramid is like

477
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,320
nine feet.

478
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:12,320
And that's the other part of just the frequencies we can't see from these geometrical shapes.

479
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,320
This is wild.

480
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:20,520
So, okay, so start with seeds in the pyramid, then plant it, use your electroculture sort

481
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,880
of staff with copper around it.

482
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:29,800
Then as it's growing, spray it with wine and pump bird song into it.

483
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,040
And now you've got like a jack in the beanstalk sized plant that's just going to stretch

484
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,120
up to the sky.

485
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,080
This is crazy.

486
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,880
And then you can add, if we're going to take it to the next level, there's another one.

487
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,040
So then you can add basalt or azomite.

488
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,240
Those are different types or magnetite.

489
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,640
And you can basically use those to increase your magnetism of the soil.

490
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,320
So you would basically pour azomite on your soil or basalt or magnetite.

491
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,800
And that will increase the magnetism even more because now you're enhancing the soil.

492
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,800
Right?

493
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,040
So you already enhanced the seed.

494
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:08,120
Now you put the antenna and then you now put the basalt and the magnetite all over and

495
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,640
you will notice your plants will just go through the roof.

496
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,480
And it's interesting because Wilhelm Reich was another beautiful soul who did so much

497
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,000
with organ and energy and all the things that he created.

498
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,000
He was studying with another guy, I believe his name was, I think it was Thomas.

499
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,920
And Thomas basically created an apparatus where he started to understand that if you

500
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,960
take magnetite and you place it out in the sun, it will harness the sun's energy.

501
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:37,080
And if you bring it indoors on your plants, they will have the exact same energy and grow

502
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,800
the same size as if they were outdoors.

503
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,400
So we have all these LED grow lights and all this nonsense.

504
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,000
And it's interesting because when you use LED grow lights, you have to bring the plants

505
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,880
outside because they don't get the full spectrum of the light.

506
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,120
So what he understood was if you take magnetite, put it out in the sun, it will harness the

507
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,120
earth's energy.

508
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,840
And then when you bring that magnetite, put it in on your soil or your indoor plants,

509
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,200
they will grow as if they're outdoors.

510
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,200
Yeah.

511
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:10,480
Do you know of any farms that are doing this at scale or if there are, they just not telling?

512
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,280
So there are a lot of farms, for example, like in Europe that are doing this.

513
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,400
There's some farms in Italy as well too.

514
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,480
There's a couple of farms who've reached out to me and we're kind of putting together some

515
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,800
stuff and things like that to kind of do it on a larger scale.

516
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,960
Because somebody messaged me, I think they have like 40 acres.

517
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,880
And so it would have, you'd have to build quite a few, but once it's, the cool thing

518
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,600
is, is once it's set up, you don't have to change it.

519
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,560
You don't have to do it again because it's already set up.

520
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:43,840
But if you want to go into history that's also been suppressed, the 2000 pound pumpkin,

521
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,680
those people are doing it, right?

522
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,360
The pumpkins that are so large that people are like, oh, they grow that.

523
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,360
They're doing that.

524
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,280
And also a lot of those are grown.

525
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,920
This is another interesting thing is they're grown in Alaska or they're also grown in

526
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:57,920
Hawaii.

527
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Why are they grown in those two states?

528
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,680
Because the magnetism of the earth is at its highest points in those two areas and the

529
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:11,280
soil is loaded with volcanic ash, which is very high in magnetism, which is known as

530
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,520
basalt.

531
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,760
And that's what's also basically making everything bigger.

532
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,600
You know, if you go to Hawaii, it's like a jungle.

533
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,880
You know, everything is massive because the basalt from the ash is actually very beneficial.

534
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,840
And that's why they would burn things at the time, like the volcano would come, it would

535
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,320
burn things and it would regenerate because when it went through that regeneration cycle

536
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,040
that people are fearful of, it's actually boosting their soil through the roof so that

537
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,800
they can yield even more food.

538
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:44,880
So in reality, volcanoes are actually a very important part of our plants and of our soil,

539
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,800
but they get a bad rep because, you know, they're saying people are going to get burned

540
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,800
and whatever else.

541
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,480
So it's interesting, but yeah, I've seen a couple farms and as they're doing it, it's

542
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,480
just wild.

543
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,280
I have people with their, they have a backyard and they have probably about a half an acre

544
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,800
and all of their food is like 20 feet tall and just wild.

545
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,600
It's just, it's literally looks like a forest, you know, and even with the, you know, the

546
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,160
chemical stuff that goes up in the air all the time that they keep trying to hit us with,

547
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,240
even with all that, the plants are still blowing up like no other.

548
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,320
I can't wait.

549
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:27,280
But in your, in your research, have you come across a suitable definition for ether?

550
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,200
Oh, so there's a book.

551
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,480
There's a book I was reading that basically explains the, what it, what it really is, but

552
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,520
it's not what, how we perceive it as like atoms and molecules and everything else.

553
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:47,360
It's kind of just think of like vortexes around us spiraling and they're in all different

554
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,920
shapes and directions.

555
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:55,800
It kind of is like when you, here's an example, you lay out in the sun, you close your eyes,

556
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,640
but the sun is still beaming down.

557
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,360
You open your eyes and you see all these little floating dots and they're all floating every

558
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:06,880
different direction all over the place in circles, whatever direction it may be.

559
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,640
That's the best way to describe the energy that's around us.

560
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,400
There's no really tangible form to explain it or physical form to say this is what it

561
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,640
looks like.

562
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,680
And that's what makes it seem like it's just fake, right?

563
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:24,040
Because you can't see it, but it's the problem is, is we only have these five senses, which

564
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,080
are kind of limited in what we can see.

565
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,680
And until our body is maybe in a different state, such as breath work or meditation or

566
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,920
different things, then we don't really pick up on these things.

567
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,520
But insects on the other hand can pick up on this all the time because they see infrared

568
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,660
and UV and their antennas are vibrating almost two million times per second.

569
00:32:44,660 --> 00:32:48,760
So they can pick up on all of the energy that's around, but we just can't because our eyes

570
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,080
can only see to a limited extent.

571
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,800
And we're so detached from nature that we don't observe those animals that can see

572
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,680
this thing and almost as it were see through their eyes or antenna.

573
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,440
Well, and that's the thing is like, how about this?

574
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,640
Why do dogs spin in a circle before they use the bathroom?

575
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,640
Right?

576
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,640
Yeah.

577
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,000
Doesn't make a lot of sense, but they're picking up on the magnetism of the earth so they can

578
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,120
understand where to use the bathroom.

579
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,680
So like a simple thing like that.

580
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,320
Why do birds spin in a circle?

581
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,320
You ever see a hawk?

582
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,600
It spins in a circle.

583
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,240
What it's doing is it's creating a vortex up in the air so it can pick up on the magnetic

584
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,920
lay lines that are all below us so it can know where to go.

585
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,320
And that's the problem with all these towers and cell things and everything else is they're

586
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,120
impacting those birds.

587
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,760
Then you have bees, right?

588
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,600
Bees get impacted on their GPS.

589
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,120
They pick up on frequency.

590
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,680
They pick up on energy and they levitate.

591
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,080
Bees and beetles are levitating.

592
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,520
They're emitting a 28 kilohertz frequency which allows them to levitate because they actually

593
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,400
have pyramids built into their wings.

594
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,480
So if you take a wing of a beetle and you look into it under a microscope very deep,

595
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,920
you'll see there's pyramids over and over and over and over again in a symmetrical pattern

596
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,840
that causes their ability for them to levitate.

597
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,600
And then same with that, you know, you have, if we're going to go to the pyramid as well

598
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,600
too, you have, why do people wear a dunce cap?

599
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,600
That's a big one.

600
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,480
You're right that we were taught that that person cannot read or dyslexic or whatever

601
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,960
they say, but in reality when a person places a dunce cap on top of their head, their electrons

602
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,520
start spinning back the opposite direction and so that they can read.

603
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,560
So you know, all of these things are those frequencies in which we cannot see or understand

604
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,240
and they also go with our beautiful animals and they pick up on them as well.

605
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:32,840
But like you said, we've been detached from nature.

606
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,720
We've been detached from Mother Earth, you know, connecting, hugging the trees, you know,

607
00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:39,280
talking to the plants, right?

608
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,560
Because Marsal Vogel with the Vogel crystals, he understood you could talk to plants and

609
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,600
get energy and there's emotion.

610
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,680
There's all of these things that can be picked up on and we've been disconnected from that.

611
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,400
So the more we get into the dirt, we get like into the earth, we start barefoot grounding,

612
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,720
we get connected.

613
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:57,880
The more we'll start to pick up on these things.

614
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,920
And I did tests where I would go out and I would draw different figures in the earth,

615
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,920
right?

616
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,360
I would draw a vortex, I would draw triangles, I would draw sacred geometry, I've tested

617
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,360
it all.

618
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,440
I will watch in 24 hours, birds come around and start finding seeds.

619
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,600
I will watch ants come around, I will see bees coming around.

620
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:22,320
And I noticed too, if you chant or do any types of meditation, your frequency will be

621
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,400
different based on the drawing that's in the ground.

622
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,200
So if you think about it, the earth is like a speaker system that we just can't even

623
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,680
understand that just the simple putting a drawing into the earth can basically change

624
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,480
the frequency of that area with just a simple literally a stick in your hand and that's

625
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,520
it, can change the frequency of that earth.

626
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,280
And then all of a sudden you'll start to notice all the plants around you start to bloom and

627
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:51,120
start to go crazy because you've just uplifted the energy just using your thought.

628
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:56,080
I don't think it gets more empowering than that.

629
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:02,960
Back to your point about bees levitating, bees and beetles levitating not exactly flying.

630
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,040
I remember reading somewhere that the bumblebee according to the laws of aerodynamics should

631
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,440
not be capable of flight, that its physiology should not support flight.

632
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,800
And thank you, Vance, for how that happens.

633
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:19,280
And then I think I also remember reading something about arctic foxes and the way that they hunt,

634
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,800
you know, they listen to the animal below the snow, but that they always navigate according

635
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,880
to the earth's magnetic field.

636
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,120
That somehow they're always sort of pouncing in the same direction every time and they're

637
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,600
doing that using some sort of awareness of the earth's magnetic field.

638
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,600
And so there you are.

639
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,120
Like we have this understanding we are sort of taught this, but I don't think that we

640
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,760
fully appreciate it.

641
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,800
And what you're doing is not just the appreciation, but then taking the next step and going, okay,

642
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,240
let's start integrating as Mike says, appreciation to integration, like let's integrate this

643
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:53,880
into my daily life and see what we can do.

644
00:36:53,880 --> 00:37:00,200
So you've mentioned, and I want to get into this a little bit more, the assaults that

645
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:08,240
we face every day from, you know, the buildings, the LED lights, the towers, the things that

646
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:11,680
disrupt the non-native EMF as it were.

647
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:17,720
Do you use these like electroculture, magnetism, copper copper coils?

648
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:24,160
Can you use those things to sort of protect or mitigate against the impact of non-native

649
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,520
EMFs and the assault upon us by our own society?

650
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,560
So you can use it if you wear it, right?

651
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,640
Certain metals, depending on what you're wearing, can impact your health, right?

652
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,600
So for example, you could wear gold if you need energy.

653
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,840
You could wear silver to turn on your mind.

654
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,840
You could wear copper to get rid of inflammation and pain.

655
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,760
And you know, the thing is too, is when you wear copper, let's say on your first finger

656
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,840
and your thumb and you connect them and you make the circle, now you just made a circuit,

657
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,840
right?

658
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,560
That's the whole point of making the different hand signs and hand gestures.

659
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,720
You're making different types of circuits.

660
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:57,000
That's basically what's happening.

661
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,640
So you can use those depending on what you're wearing, because each metal will resonate

662
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,280
at a different frequency and can heal you in a different way.

663
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,040
And that's that going back into alchemy and all of the information that we've lost about

664
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,680
how metals can actually be very beneficial.

665
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,160
Now for safeguarding your home, what we want to do is we want to get rid of any type of

666
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,280
material such as plastic that's in the house.

667
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:23,240
And that's such as polyester, polyurethane, rayon, nylon, anything that's synthetic.

668
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:27,000
And anytime you buy something, you should turn over the tag and make sure that it says

669
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,280
100% whatever it is.

670
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,680
Even if it's marketed as bamboo, it might not be bamboo.

671
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,120
It's probably polyester.

672
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,280
So we want to get rid of those plastic materials out of the home because they build up negative

673
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,960
static charges, which lead to restless leg syndrome.

674
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,000
And then also lead us to not being able to relax or heal, right?

675
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,760
Because when we're bombarded with all these frequencies, whatever we are wearing, or we

676
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,520
are sleeping in, right, like our sheets, that's why linen is so important to be sleeping in.

677
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,940
But because linen cannot hold a static charge.

678
00:38:57,940 --> 00:39:02,120
So with all this radiation and cell phones and all this other stuff that we face, we

679
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:07,960
need to be sleeping on materials that pretty much cannot sustain a frequency, I'm sorry,

680
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,520
a static charge because that static charge will impact our health.

681
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,680
Now you can wear materials, you can drink out of copper cups, you can drink out of clay

682
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,680
cups, right?

683
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,200
Because clay is a neutral material as well too.

684
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,240
You know, there's different types of things that you can do, but the first and foremost

685
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,600
is changing the materials in your home, right?

686
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,800
If you have even couches that are made out of plastic, I hate to say, but get rid of

687
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,080
them because not only are they made out of plastic, but they're off, they're off gassing

688
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,640
a bunch of chemicals while you're laying there too, and they're going to heat you up

689
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,440
and cause skin conditions.

690
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,240
That's why a ton of people got skin conditions because the polyester plastic clothes that

691
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:46,600
are on their body are heating them up in a bad way, which is working against them.

692
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,880
So first and foremost with frequencies, that would be number one is the clothing, number

693
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,000
two, getting rid of the Wi-Fi out of your home, right?

694
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,480
And de-Wi-Fi and everything, hard-wiring things, getting an ethernet cord like I have connected

695
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,240
into my computer right now and connected into your device when you need the internet.

696
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:08,240
Because that pinging, you're allowing, you are consenting frequencies to come into your

697
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:11,840
home and then to pulse wherever they may be.

698
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,440
And it's interesting that you said about the fox because the fox, the birds, the humans,

699
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,640
the bees, the insects, all of those things, we all have in the center of our forehead

700
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:26,080
and in the center of all animals' foreheads, we have crystals that are made out of calcite,

701
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,680
which is part of the penile gland in the third eye.

702
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,400
These frequencies that are constantly being emitted all the time, what's the first thing

703
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,400
they hit?

704
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,840
This third eye that's open because this brings all your knowledge and all of your awareness,

705
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,840
right?

706
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,760
Your ability to say in a gut way, this is not correct.

707
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,240
So they're trying to dim that and turn that down so that we're not thinking and going,

708
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:48,560
you know, maybe this isn't so bad.

709
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,800
No, this is dangerous.

710
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,640
And I will say it because I brought a router into the house and it pretty much almost disabled

711
00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:00,080
me and it was interesting because you could not turn off the Wi-Fi on this device.

712
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,040
These new devices that they're trying to give people for free or put a part of their plan,

713
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,720
you actually cannot physically disable it to 0%.

714
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:14,640
So those frequencies impact our health because they're pinging 24, 7, 365 while you're sleeping,

715
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:15,840
whatever it may be.

716
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,400
And then it's causing just like that a pulse, which will make you not be able to sleep,

717
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,200
not be able to make your brain function.

718
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,200
It'll impact your heart.

719
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,800
It'll impact your blood.

720
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,200
It'll impact your organs, all of those things.

721
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,560
So the first two I would say is the clothing.

722
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,760
And then I would say the next is getting rid of Wi-Fi.

723
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,680
And these are simple solutions.

724
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,120
They don't cost much.

725
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,560
And then the third one, which is probably the biggest one as well too, is your lighting.

726
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,560
Right?

727
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,080
If you have LED lights, those LED lights can be linked up to Wi-Fi or Wi-Fi.

728
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,840
And that pulses the same frequency all the time.

729
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,860
And that will mess with your circadian rhythm and your ability to sleep.

730
00:41:53,860 --> 00:41:59,000
So we're getting hit with these frequencies that are basically causing us to be up all

731
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,760
night, impacting our mind, impacting our heart.

732
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,800
And then also the leading cause of cataracts is LED lights.

733
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,840
It burns out the eye and causes it to basically degenerate over time.

734
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,240
So we want to switch to incandescent bulbs, which are not part of this whole weird frequency

735
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,800
spectrum that they're trying to give us a blue light.

736
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,920
And those three things are probably some of the best stuff you can do for your home because

737
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:26,080
now you've gotten rid of all the weird polyester plastic materials and whatever else over there.

738
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,760
Then you've gotten rid of the Wi-Fi.

739
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,960
And then now you have beautiful lights to relax in so you can read a book.

740
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,720
And then once you start reading books, you can start remembering it because the problem

741
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:39,920
sometimes with all of our screens is this stuff can blink our minds because it works

742
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,680
on the alpha brainwave.

743
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,200
So it's important to go back to some of the old things we used to do, even including candles.

744
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,440
You can do candlelight meditations.

745
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,800
You can stare at a candle for 20 minutes and you will get into a heavy, theta state and

746
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,000
it will put your mind to a higher level.

747
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,960
These are all things that can be implemented.

748
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,840
And then the last one, if we're going to go outside of our home, because there's also

749
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,080
things we can be doing out there, is to start barefoot grounding and putting your whole

750
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:10,720
body on the earth physically, your whole body like a starfish laying out on the earth and

751
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:12,400
put your arms, every single thing.

752
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,400
So everything touches, get rid of all your devices, everything, AirPods, cell phones,

753
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,840
any of that nonsense.

754
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,000
Put it all away, go lay out on the earth in an area that there's no electrical wires

755
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,320
and just let your body relax, put a blindfold over your eyes or whatever you need to and

756
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,080
lay there for 30 minutes.

757
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:34,480
You will feel like a whole new person because now you're taking off all the electrostatic

758
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,800
that's built up on your body because we're surrounded by so much electricity and static

759
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,320
and EMF that it will help pull it all off.

760
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:48,680
And that static is causing heart attacks, knee pain, back pain, headaches, frustration,

761
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,920
anger, not ability to think.

762
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,520
I mean, the list goes on and on.

763
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,760
And it was interesting because once you start doing that, and I do it every day, once you

764
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,920
start doing that, you just start feeling great because now your body is functioning because

765
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:05,280
your cells are not clumping together and being like, what's going on?

766
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,880
I can't move any oxygen or minerals around and it starts to heal and you go back into

767
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,200
a balance and that's it.

768
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,560
It's difficult to find incandescent lights these days.

769
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,120
They've almost phased them out intentionally.

770
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:27,000
They were when LEDs came around, well, first you had the CFLs and then you had the LEDs

771
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,120
just as a greener solution because they're going to last longer and it's really hard

772
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:36,080
to find incandescent or they're just not as prominent in the lighting section of your

773
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,200
hardware store.

774
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,840
So currently there was a ban that was placed about three months ago due to the administration

775
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,840
saying that we're going to save the climate.

776
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,480
But it's interesting because when you break an LED light in your home, you need a hazmat

777
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,480
to clean it up.

778
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,360
You also need to shut off your air conditioner and if it does harm you, you have to follow

779
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,160
six steps before you can even file a lawsuit because of the damages that actually occur

780
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,840
because you get poisoned by the mercury and all the chemicals that are inside of them.

781
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,840
So it's interesting, we're trying to pivot towards saving the planet, but we're putting

782
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:09,800
this toxic chemical all over the place and also not only that, the flicker rate of LEDs

783
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,800
is three million, right?

784
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,440
So you have a strobe light inside of your home and it's hanging all the time just strobing.

785
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,680
So it's going to lead to headache, seizures and all types of other issues as well.

786
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,480
But as for the incandescent, you can look online.

787
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,560
There's a couple of different websites online where you can still order them.

788
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,240
You can always go to a thrift store as well too, sometimes like an antique store they

789
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:28,680
have them as well.

790
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,000
But you can also get some large, if you want, bigger candles and get like a cone, put it

791
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,600
around it, it'll amplify the light.

792
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,360
But as for it, with the incandescence, it's, yeah, we have to just look online and shop

793
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,240
because these hardware companies, I did a video about six months back, these hardware

794
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:48,840
companies when I went there and I talked about how they were being banned, I asked the guy,

795
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,840
well, what's going to happen?

796
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,680
And he goes, well, we don't know if they're actually banned, but we're just going to go

797
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,000
with it because we're told to do it.

798
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,000
And I go, but they're not banned.

799
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,240
I go, it's an executive order.

800
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:00,680
And he goes, well, we're just going with it.

801
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,920
That's what the company said we're going to do.

802
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,080
And I go, okay.

803
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,120
So now we fast forward, let's say now we're in October, so that was six months later.

804
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,440
Now they're harder to find because these companies have stopped carrying them because they're

805
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,480
trying to say we need to just push these LED lights.

806
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,120
And the other issue with those is they have Wi-Fi built into them, which you have this,

807
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:26,480
it's a horrible combination of a blue light frequency and Wi-Fi and Target, for example,

808
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,900
had cameras in their LED lights.

809
00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:32,400
So if you bring an LED light into your home, do you have cameras in your home?

810
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,600
It's just weird things to think about and things to look up that don't make a lot of

811
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,120
sense of why I need to bring these things into my home.

812
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:46,000
I'm reminded of the advice as pertains to diet that I heard sometime in the last couple

813
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,000
of years.

814
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,520
If it didn't exist 100 years ago, 200 years ago, maybe you shouldn't be eating it, but

815
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,760
it sounds like you can apply that little nugget of wisdom across the board, whether

816
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:03,600
it's your furniture, your clothing, your light, where your light comes from, all of it.

817
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:09,360
If it didn't exist, now the irony of that statement, of course, is that as we're learning,

818
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,680
there's a lot of things that did exist 100 or 200 years ago that were actually pretty

819
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,600
advanced on the technological front.

820
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,600
So that actually cuts both ways.

821
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:24,520
Well, and also too with what you just said, I mean, if you look up John Keely, I think

822
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,760
everybody should look into him.

823
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:31,640
He created ether devices that had energy, basically he had energy, he created engines

824
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,600
and all different types of devices that ran on ether.

825
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:35,600
And that was it.

826
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,280
He could draw a symbol on the wall and turn on an engine and hit behind him.

827
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,280
Jesus.

828
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,600
It was just, I mean, if you want to take to a whole nother level of understanding, John

829
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,800
Keely was like on a whole nother thing.

830
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,360
He had so many patents, they destroyed all of them because he was basically 2000 years

831
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,280
ahead of everybody else and he was 1877.

832
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,880
So when you're looking at it, it's like we've had, like you just said, we've had a lot of

833
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,920
this technology, but they've now pretty much dampened it down and sold us some garbage

834
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,040
that's like one-tenth of it.

835
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,520
I mean, I can look outside right now, I got cars in front of me that get 20 miles to the

836
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,360
gallon and it's 2022.

837
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,240
There's never been a better invention.

838
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:17,040
There was a car in 1976 that ran on water, right?

839
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,680
There's so many different things that came out and it's like we get this bait and switch.

840
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,440
That's how I kind of see it.

841
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,920
But we just have to go back to, like I said, reading and then grounding and then bringing

842
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:34,080
ourselves back into the logical state because when we're put in this, relating it all the

843
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,400
way back to the beginning of this podcast, when we're put in a fear state, we do not

844
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,900
think logically.

845
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:41,080
The logic turns off.

846
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:46,200
We go into this primal state where we're not thinking, we can't come up with solutions,

847
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:51,480
we're always in chaos, everything of our whole life is in chaos, but when we realize that

848
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:56,800
we live in abundance and we can solve everything as society because we are, like I said, the

849
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,800
99%.

850
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,400
Well, we realize that and take back that power and we start with our homes.

851
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,760
We can then help somebody else for their house as well too.

852
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,000
And I get a ton of messages about how everybody has changed their houses and it's a whole

853
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:15,440
different thing and it's just simple things that we can do, but just do it in a checklist.

854
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,760
Do it one at a time.

855
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,600
Change one thing, change another, change another.

856
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,960
And those little things that you do, even with the three we started with, with just

857
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:28,040
the clothing, the Wi-Fi and the frequencies of the lights, those three alone, you'll be

858
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,200
a whole new person.

859
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,720
Now you can incorporate organic foods, now you can incorporate primary water, now you

860
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:36,920
can incorporate all these different other things and bring those in as well.

861
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:42,400
And you will be a whole new person in the matter of one year and it didn't cost you

862
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,360
more than much anything, but that's what we need to do because we're constantly facing

863
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,640
all the nonsense where they suppress a lot of this information.

864
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:57,880
Matt, you mentioned abundance again and I want to touch on primary water before this

865
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,920
podcast episode is over because you've been talking about primary water a lot.

866
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,960
Andrew Kaufman mentioned it briefly in our interview with him.

867
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,320
I know you've done some deep dives on it.

868
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,840
Can you talk a little bit about what it is and what you've discovered?

869
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,520
So primary water is the water that comes out of the earth from the combination of hydrogen

870
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,240
and oxygen that is basically pressurized like a...

871
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:21,240
Sorry.

872
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:27,280
So anyway, so primary water is the combination of hydrogen and oxygen that comes up from

873
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,000
a pressurized system like a volcano coming out of the earth creating new structured

874
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,000
living water.

875
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,160
So the water that they sell us in our pipes is pretty much recycled sewage to tap, it's

876
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,400
loaded with fluoride, it's loaded with arsenic, lead and all these types of contaminants and

877
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,520
primary water is pure water.

878
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:48,840
If you look into the primarywaterinstitute.org or the book New Water for a Thirsty World,

879
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,480
you can learn more about this topic.

880
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,920
But basically it's the bait and switch we've been sold where we're running out of water

881
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,520
and we don't know what to do because the secondary water cycle above us, which is rain and snow

882
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,960
and all of that is pretty much supposedly changing and we're running out, but they're

883
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,600
not telling us about the primary water that's filling all the springs, the creeks, the different

884
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,120
areas of the earth.

885
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,800
And it's interesting because that water is alive.

886
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:17,560
When you consume alive water, it you start to heal and you start to regenerate.

887
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,720
When you consume water that's next to a cell phone tower, you're consuming basically water

888
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:23,960
that looks like applesauce under a microscope.

889
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,720
The structure of it is completely destroyed.

890
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:32,360
So we are not taught about primary water because it puts us in that scarcity mindset, but it's

891
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,720
fascinating because in the 1950s they use primary water to fill Lake Elsinore.

892
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:43,000
Lake Elsinore was a manmade holding tank just like the other 53,000 manmade holding tanks

893
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:48,080
we have in America, but they use primary water to refill it at that time.

894
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:52,120
And my buddy, he actually lived in Lake Elsinore and was blown away that one day all of a sudden

895
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,800
the lake went dry and the next day it had water.

896
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,040
And he's like, I'm totally confused.

897
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,880
And there were other people in California where they lived in Northern California and

898
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,880
an earthquake happened and all of a sudden their rivers were flowing again.

899
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,640
And this is why this has been hidden from us because if we know that there's all this

900
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:16,040
water that's unlimited and beautiful and not contaminated below us, we could access that

901
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:21,640
and hit those water veins and have unlimited water and not be put into the scarcity mindset

902
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,280
that we are running out.

903
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,000
And then if you take it to another step, you go to Libya and the eighth wonder of the world,

904
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,920
which is what Gaddafi was building.

905
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,280
He was building the largest water pipeline in the world so he could supply all of Africa

906
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,000
and the Middle East with water.

907
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,120
He was also having organic farming.

908
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,240
He was also going to give people his own currency.

909
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:42,560
He also was going to do a lot.

910
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,160
I mean, it was wild, the amount of things.

911
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,640
But the first thing that was taken out when they went into the country and invaded was

912
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,120
the water pipeline.

913
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,120
Why?

914
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,880
Because with structured, beautiful living water, you can have an abundance of food.

915
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,960
You can have an abundance of everything.

916
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,600
And it was interesting because when I got into primary water and I started understanding

917
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,240
it and I started finding it, I would go out and find it out in nature and everything else.

918
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:09,320
It never made any sense because we're always told, oh, the weather is changing and this

919
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,040
is first we're heating up, now we're cooling down, now we're heating up, now we're cooling

920
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,040
down.

921
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,880
And it's interesting because first they were saying the glaciers were melting, but now

922
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,360
we're running out of water.

923
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,040
It's always this goofy thing of switch back and forth, which never adds up.

924
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,520
But when I was going and touching primary water and being in it, you are electrically

925
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,520
charged.

926
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,960
You will have more energy than you can possibly imagine because the vortexes which are being

927
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:37,440
created to increase the magnetism that you are sitting in will charge your body like

928
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,280
you just, I don't know, like not to say you had a Red Bull, but you will have so much

929
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,840
energy you won't know what to do with it because you've now taken off all the electrostatic

930
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,400
that's sitting on the body.

931
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:52,240
And we can also use primary water to create free energy.

932
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:56,040
That's why they built all these dams and placed them all over the earth because they want

933
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:01,120
to block all the free energy that's flowing through the vortices of the water.

934
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,320
You can take a device and place it on top and you will notice that the electrical charge

935
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,760
will be high on an area where there's a lot of water.

936
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,280
And there's also a lot of oxygen, which is also magnetic, which is very healing for the

937
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,280
body.

938
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,720
So we've been deceived on the whole primary water thing because they want us to be disconnected

939
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:24,120
from nature and go to our tap, turn on the sewage to tap with the poisons and the toxins,

940
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,720
rub that stuff all over our body and then be made believe that we're going to run out

941
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:34,240
because in reality in 2021, they put water on the stock market as a commodity.

942
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:38,480
And that's the whole reason when you follow the money, you can see that they can now manipulate

943
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,840
the price and charge you whatever they feel because it's been put on the stock market,

944
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,640
not because we're actually running out.

945
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,160
So that's the primary water Institute, correct?

946
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,160
Yes.

947
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:54,600
Org is one of the organizations that's at least bringing awareness to the existence of

948
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:55,600
primary water.

949
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:02,360
Are you aware of efforts to cut us off from primary water?

950
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,120
I mean, other than the ones that you talked about, like damming, the damming that goes

951
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,440
on, I mean, you said you went and you bathed in primary water.

952
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:14,360
I mean, primary water is like if you went to a natural spring, that's essentially primary

953
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,360
water, right?

954
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,560
Primary water fills the aquifers and then if an aquifer creates a spring that comes to

955
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,920
the surface, that's primary water, correct?

956
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:22,920
Yeah.

957
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:23,920
It's right off the mountain.

958
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,440
So you'll see like a mountain and you'll see just this creek that you're kind of confused

959
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,560
why it's there.

960
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,880
It could be from a volcano or whatever it may be, but it's basically just there's primary

961
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,080
water coming out of there and that's filling that creek and you'll see it just keep pouring

962
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,080
out of the mountain.

963
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,080
It just keeps going.

964
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,920
And even if you look into Bosnia, they got tons of water pouring out everything, every

965
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,120
mountain, every crevice you can name, it's primary water.

966
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,760
So it's the magical water, but we can find it with dousing rods, right?

967
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:54,320
If we go back into the ancient times of dousing and how they called them witches and whatever

968
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:59,120
else, funny, but with the dousing rods, you could actually find primary water.

969
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,600
And I have a friend also too, they drill primary water wells.

970
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,800
They have a device where they can basically measure the gamma waves and they can tell

971
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,920
where the primary water is and they'll drill on that spot because it's a hot spot that's

972
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,960
producing let's say a thousand gallons per minute or whatever that it could be.

973
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,960
It could be 10,000 gallons per minute, but we do have the technology, no matter what

974
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:23,160
they do of trying to cut us off or whatever nonsense they put in the air or whatever else

975
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,200
that they try to do, the water will always keep coming and we can always find it.

976
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,040
And with dousing rods, if you walk around with them, you can get some simple brass dousing

977
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,040
rods.

978
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,120
You can walk around the earth, you could ask the earth, where is the water or is there

979
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,320
water here?

980
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,880
And those dousing rods will just connect and then you'll know there's water right below

981
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:40,880
you.

982
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,240
You can do that for gold, you can do that for silver, you can do that for your health.

983
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:47,920
If you have a health element, you can put dousing rods in front of your heart if you

984
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,720
have heart issues and no cross telling you you have a heart issue.

985
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:55,320
That's how they used to tell where things were, but no matter what of them trying to

986
00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:00,160
cut us off altogether and then buying up land, there's so much land, there's so much land,

987
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,840
there's so much water, there's so much abundance and they can keep trying to do whatever they're

988
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,560
doing but it's always going to be there.

989
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:12,560
And if let's say one person bought land and found primary water on that spot, that person

990
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,960
could supply enough water for the entire city, just that one person alone.

991
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:23,720
So we have to really reverse the fear of like, I heard Walmart's buying it all up, it's like

992
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:28,160
it's not, they're not going to purchase everything because right now I can walk outside and go

993
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:33,320
buy some land and it probably has most likely 99%, there's a spot on there that has primary

994
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,720
water underneath it because there's so many water veins underneath us and that's what

995
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:45,320
creates so much energy below us with the magnetic lay lines as well too.

996
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,960
You're in a city, right?

997
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,000
You're in like a suburban area of Arizona.

998
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,560
So we're in northern Scottsdale.

999
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,240
Okay, so you're on city water?

1000
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,400
Yep.

1001
00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:01,360
So where do you get your water and how do you source primary water or living water?

1002
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,280
So we go up to a couple of different places.

1003
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,680
There's places north and then there's places west and just a bunch.

1004
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,200
You can go to findaspring.com and you can check out that one as well too.

1005
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,600
But we just find different ones.

1006
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,280
I go hiking and I'll find a spot, I'll test the water, check it out and no.

1007
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:20,240
And then you can pretty much know if it's usually below 100 ports per million, you're

1008
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,640
at primary water.

1009
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:26,040
If it's over 500 or whatever it may be, then you probably are not on primary water because

1010
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,880
it's water that's been sitting.

1011
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,200
But we do that and then also we get distilled water as well and do a lot with distilled

1012
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:38,320
water because distilled water is a water for electrical devices, which we are electrical

1013
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:39,320
beings.

1014
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,800
So bringing distilled water into the body can actually purify and remove a lot of toxins.

1015
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,640
And if you want, because you feel that you're supposedly depleted on minerals, as they always

1016
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,200
say, you can take a pinch of sea salt and put it in there if you wish.

1017
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,520
But the thing is, is that's what we do.

1018
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:58,160
And then we have some shower filters to remove the chlorine and the chemicals as well too.

1019
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:03,160
But in the future, it will be drilling a primary water well and doing that and then having

1020
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,160
access to that.

1021
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,360
And then also having the gardens showing all the electric culture.

1022
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,280
So you guys can see that as well too.

1023
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,720
And then combining all of those things into a whole thing so that people can know that

1024
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:14,720
it's all done.

1025
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:19,440
But I have people outside of here that are also doing that and have hooked up to either

1026
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:24,360
primary water or are doing the electric culture and the gardens are going nuts.

1027
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:29,320
Amazing, we really look forward to getting this conversation out into the world.

1028
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,880
And as Mike said, implementing this in our own lives.

1029
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,360
Matt, a couple of questions that we ask all our guests as we near the end here.

1030
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:43,300
What are your non-negotiables, those habits that you do every day to tend to your terrain?

1031
00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:46,000
So I would say the first one is meditation.

1032
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,520
That's probably one of the biggest.

1033
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:52,360
Like we plan and then we meditate because I think that's one of the most important things

1034
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:57,800
that you can possibly do because you need to get your mind into the right frame.

1035
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:02,280
Because the problem is is we wake up, we're stressed, we're in pain and whatever it may

1036
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,400
be, there's noise outside, whatever it may be, we got to get our mind right.

1037
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,280
And I think that's really important.

1038
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,640
And then just setting obviously a positive mindset to say today's going to be a great

1039
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:16,160
day and whatever happens, I'm going to figure out solutions to it because that's just how

1040
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,160
it's always been.

1041
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,400
And even with all of this stuff, like everything that I've been learning and even reciting

1042
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:26,200
to you as well too, it's just I buy books and I collect and I read and I just sit and

1043
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,320
just keep going down the next thing and reading and reading and reading and reading.

1044
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,920
And that's one of my biggest ones.

1045
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,920
I mean, we need to go back to reading.

1046
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:38,600
If I'm going to pick anything that people need to do because there's so much information

1047
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:44,320
in these books and the internet suppresses so much information, like everything.

1048
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:49,120
Like even they fact check my information yesterday, but they say that it's true on the article.

1049
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,640
So it's like it's so goofy.

1050
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,840
So we really need to be connected to these beautiful books that we used to hold.

1051
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,240
And there's something majestic about them because the frequency of the book, if you

1052
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:04,240
look at old books, they're made out of cotton, linen and leather, which are all natural frequencies

1053
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,760
that we are supposed to be holding.

1054
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,940
The newer books are made out of plastic and they're coated with gloss.

1055
01:01:08,940 --> 01:01:11,120
So that's not a natural frequency to be holding.

1056
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:16,400
So if we look at frequency that's all around us, we need to reconnect to the frequency as

1057
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,640
much as possible.

1058
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,960
And that's what I'm all about.

1059
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,320
Because I have to be connected and I have to keep getting information and I have to

1060
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,600
keep evolving as I understand these things.

1061
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:32,320
Because when you start putting it all together, it all starts to connect the dots and there's

1062
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,800
big reasons of why we haven't been told this.

1063
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,840
And it also changed our health.

1064
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,960
Learning all this stuff changed our health forever.

1065
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,040
I don't get sick.

1066
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,120
I don't have health issues.

1067
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,520
I don't have to pay any bills.

1068
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:43,800
I don't have any of that.

1069
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,320
I used to have all kinds of issues.

1070
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,800
I had every health issue known to man and they're all gone.

1071
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,440
I don't suffer from anything and it's amazing.

1072
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:56,360
And once you can understand that you can have that power, it's great.

1073
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,360
Like it's amazing.

1074
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,680
And I was affected by radiation.

1075
01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:59,680
I was affected by EMF.

1076
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,880
I've been affected by everything.

1077
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,080
And I can say now that my life is great and that's that mindset that I really try to put

1078
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,160
my brain into as well too every day when I start my day.

1079
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,160
I love it.

1080
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,400
You've got to keep evolving and you have to keep elevating too, right?

1081
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaking of, where can the people learn more about you?

1082
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,280
So you can find us on cultivateelevate.com and we have all of our information with our

1083
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,280
blogs on there.

1084
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,280
You can check them all out.

1085
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,080
You can research any of these topics.

1086
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,280
And then we also are on Instagram, Telegram, YouTube and Rumble.

1087
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:31,680
And I put all of the videos as well.

1088
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:36,640
I do a live usually every Monday and then I put a lot of, I'll go through different topics

1089
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,120
and I'll put different stuff up and just try to hit on them.

1090
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:43,840
But anything new that I learn, I just keep trying to put it out because I feel like even

1091
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:49,240
in this podcast, just the information going out, if one person does it, there's now 10

1092
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,560
other people who are going to do it because that one person and that's the way we make

1093
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:59,400
change because if we just hold all this information and I just hold it and it doesn't go anywhere,

1094
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:00,400
then that's horrible.

1095
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:05,360
And I realize that a lot of these beautiful souls like Victor Schauburger and Justin Christoflo

1096
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,720
and all of these people wrote all these books and nobody knows about them.

1097
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:10,720
It's horrible.

1098
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,680
The information is just basically being just lost.

1099
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,440
So we really need, if you start to learn it or somebody else does, they need to spread

1100
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,880
the information far and wide because we need to continue this.

1101
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,880
Otherwise, we forget and then we get taken advantage of.

1102
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,960
Hey man, here's to sharing.

1103
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,880
Matt, thanks so much for joining us on the train theory podcast.

1104
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:30,880
Happy to be here.

1105
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,880
Now it's time for the after party.

1106
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,560
Come and join us in the pineal room.

1107
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,800
Come and join us in the pineal room.

1108
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,160
Welcome everybody to the after party in the pineal room.

1109
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,360
I've been, I don't know about you.

1110
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:51,160
Have you been working on decalcifying your pineal gland, Benjamin?

1111
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:52,360
I need some CMOS for that.

1112
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,120
I need to hit up our boy, Coville McDermott.

1113
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,280
Do you do any like sunrise gazing or sunset gazing?

1114
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,240
Have you stacked that habit yet?

1115
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,920
Yeah, I get outside as soon as the sun comes up.

1116
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:03,920
I have.

1117
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,000
So the sunrise is in the east, Michael.

1118
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,920
And to the east of me is the Green Mountains.

1119
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,040
So I have like the second tallest mountain in Vermont and the sun pretty much comes up

1120
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,040
over that.

1121
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,040
So it rises a little later in the morning.

1122
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1123
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,040
Same here.

1124
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,640
And to most people, but as soon as it's coming up, I get, I get out there even before the

1125
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,840
sun has fully risen over the horizon and absorbed.

1126
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,600
But then once it comes up, I try to, not every morning.

1127
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:31,600
How about you?

1128
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,760
Yeah, not every morning, especially now that the kids are up early and going to school.

1129
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:42,040
That sort of derailed my glorious morning routine that I had cooking over the summer

1130
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,360
and most of last year.

1131
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:45,440
But and I have the same issue.

1132
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:46,440
I had that question.

1133
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:52,400
It's like, they say you should be staring at the sun for the first 20 minutes after sunrise.

1134
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:59,280
But if you're living in a mountainous climate, that's relevant, it seems like, right?

1135
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,040
Because it's relevant.

1136
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:07,680
So anyway, I did some good meditation in the sun today that felt a little bit long overdue.

1137
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,720
It's been a few days and that felt really good.

1138
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:16,000
But I was really thinking about, it just keeps coming up the pineal gland and this element

1139
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:23,600
of like the third eye and like intuition, greater intelligence, a ethereal connection

1140
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,080
and this whole thing.

1141
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:31,000
And this is a topic that Matt is like just bathing and swimming in.

1142
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:41,320
And I just love his enthusiasm for spreading the gospel of basically all that this glorious

1143
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,480
realm provides for free.

1144
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,880
And we just need to remember that it's there and to remember to tap into it.

1145
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:52,720
It's like, I've been like binging his lives for the last couple of days and also like

1146
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:58,960
intermittently Googling copper wire and where to get pure copper wire and like starting to

1147
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:05,520
envision the way I'm going to incorporate either antennas straight up in my gardens.

1148
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:12,920
I was even like visualizing how to make like a copper antenna pyramid as like part of my

1149
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:13,920
garden design.

1150
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,280
So the wheels are turning.

1151
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,720
That is for damn sure.

1152
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:22,720
Because as I said in the interview, this is, you know, you cruise through your socials

1153
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:28,960
and you fight for all these old world tech accounts and there's talking about electroculture.

1154
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:33,240
But for some reason I thought like, oh, that's cool that people did that back then like fucking

1155
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:38,920
badass, but it didn't even occur to me to like wrap some copper around a tree and stick

1156
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,080
it in my garden and just get to work.

1157
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,400
So now I'm getting to work.

1158
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,040
We've got to be careful about spreading this gospel too far and wide because we'll have

1159
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:47,840
a copper shortage.

1160
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,480
I wonder about that.

1161
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:55,720
You know, I live next to this abandoned warehouse and I basically just ignore it.

1162
01:06:55,720 --> 01:07:02,160
But I remember five or six years ago, someone broke in there and my other neighbor is sort

1163
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,160
of the caretaker.

1164
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,520
He's supposed to keep his eye on it and you know what they stole?

1165
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,520
Copper.

1166
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:08,520
Copper wire.

1167
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:09,520
Yeah.

1168
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:10,520
Yeah.

1169
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,600
I was just going to say that's one of the things that gets stripped from, you know, parts,

1170
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:17,640
old broken down parts, copper gets stripped and then resold.

1171
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,840
But it seems just in my cursory search is the last day.

1172
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,800
I mean, you're right.

1173
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,280
It's almost like toilet paper.

1174
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,120
It's like it wants people to catch wind of it.

1175
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:30,400
It flies off the shelf.

1176
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,200
But there doesn't seem to be a dearth of copper yet.

1177
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:34,200
But what do I know?

1178
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,440
I'm just putting my toes in the water here.

1179
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:37,440
Yeah.

1180
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:43,440
And listen, I should stop myself before I promote any scarcity narrative.

1181
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,440
There you go.

1182
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,320
Because that's the whole point was...

1183
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:54,400
That was a major plank of the sermon of Matt is to dismiss fear and to push back against

1184
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,560
the scarcity narrative that is constantly being driven.

1185
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:03,520
But what I thought you were going to say though is we should be careful about speaking to

1186
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:09,360
often or loudly or publicly about the concept of harnessing free energy.

1187
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,480
Well, you know, I didn't press him on this.

1188
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:13,840
It did enter my mind.

1189
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,320
We just didn't have the time and the conversation moved so quickly.

1190
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:27,280
But I have seen over the past number of years stories, posts about folks who had invented

1191
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:35,320
cars that run on water, who met with an untimely death soon thereafter before their invention

1192
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,000
could really get out there into the world.

1193
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,000
Now I need to do more.

1194
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:44,960
You know, my due diligence, a little more research on that, but I did want to ask him,

1195
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,960
you know, you don't want to, you don't want to.

1196
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,600
And this was the other thing because you are now talking about fear.

1197
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:57,920
Like, are you afraid that you would make yourself a target because you're promoting something

1198
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,160
that could undermine the entire system?

1199
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:06,840
If free energy was accessible, if abundance became accessible to the masses, if primary

1200
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:13,640
water and the idea of near limitless amounts of water was accessible to the masses, that

1201
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:14,920
takes the whole system down.

1202
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:21,240
It blows the whole system up and the levers of control are gone at that point.

1203
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:26,000
The bars of the cage almost vanish in many ways.

1204
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,440
And so I wonder about that.

1205
01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:32,120
I think about that as we do this podcast, Terrain Theory, and that's not to put ourselves

1206
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,120
up there on any sort of pedestal far from it.

1207
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:39,960
But the conversation around Terrain Theory sits opposite Germ Theory.

1208
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:45,120
And Germ Theory is a predominant paradigm and many, it's a paradigm of control.

1209
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:46,960
It's a paradigm of profit.

1210
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:53,120
So you know, we're pushing against a really strong opponent.

1211
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,640
We're up against a really big goliath.

1212
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:57,640
Correct.

1213
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,960
So, I don't know, copper pyramid.

1214
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:07,640
Like maybe you got to dig a little lower into the earth.

1215
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:08,840
Get that bunker going.

1216
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:09,840
You know?

1217
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,840
Oh, that's what you're saying.

1218
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,400
Yeah, get the gun turrets up around the compound.

1219
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,120
I don't, you know, but that's a fear.

1220
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,120
That's the fear paradigm.

1221
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,720
I think you just have to do what you got to do.

1222
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,960
I think you say what you're going to say.

1223
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,880
You learn what you learn, speak that truth, and come what may.

1224
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:27,880
You know?

1225
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,120
I don't think you can walk in fear.

1226
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,120
Period.

1227
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,120
Period.

1228
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:40,320
We've been waiting for our conversations to come to this place because it's, it's, what

1229
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,080
is the word?

1230
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,800
It doesn't seem like a disjoinder or something.

1231
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,840
Like why are they talking about free energy on a Holistic Health and Wellness podcast?

1232
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,040
Well, it's because it's all the same thing.

1233
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:59,480
It's the awareness of what is real and what provides energy.

1234
01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:03,840
I guess, and I've always loved that word energy, Operation Ivy energy, like our favorite

1235
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,720
record back in the day, like everything is, everything's energy.

1236
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:08,720
We are energy.

1237
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,480
We're energetic beings.

1238
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:17,320
The earth is energy and food is energy and light is energy and sound is energy.

1239
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,560
So of course there's going to be, and I don't want to just be stating the obvious, but like

1240
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:31,280
it's self-evident to me that as we pursue health practices, ultimately we're going to

1241
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:37,640
bump up against the greater concept of energy.

1242
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:38,640
And here we are.

1243
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,120
And it's not just that they cross over.

1244
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,120
It's more that it's all one thing.

1245
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,120
All one thing.

1246
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:46,120
Yeah.

1247
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,120
I would agree.

1248
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:48,120
Exactly.

1249
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:53,200
And he uses the word nonsense instead of like getting into the weeds of like, oh, we did

1250
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,320
get into the weeds and he gets into the weeds.

1251
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:59,840
And you know, whether it's like geoengineering or just like the onslaught of toxicity that

1252
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,840
we talked about on ad nauseam, but he just, he just calls it all nonsense.

1253
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:09,240
And I like that nonsense is a nice tidy little, it's all nonsense and it is nonsense.

1254
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:14,520
It's antithesis to common sense, which I also like to try to nonsense.

1255
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:20,440
And he has this message, like I said, I've listened to a bunch of him in the last 24

1256
01:12:20,440 --> 01:12:21,440
hours.

1257
01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:27,120
And so I'm getting a little muddled as to what came right out of our conversation and

1258
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:33,160
what I've just been absorbing from him holding court as he stands upon his linen mat, which

1259
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:39,120
it's like so thorough with his simplicity.

1260
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:45,600
But another quinine concept of, I mean, you can tell how passionate Matt is about sharing

1261
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:50,560
this information and encouraging us to, to rebroadcast it.

1262
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:55,680
And he even said like very quinine one mind at a time, like if only one person picks up

1263
01:12:55,680 --> 01:13:00,440
one thing and then they share it with one person or 10 people, that's the only way information

1264
01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:08,920
has ever been shared throughout humanity is, is by telling your story, sharing your story

1265
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:16,000
with a teaspoon brigade, you know, and I just love all the crossovers, the crossovers,

1266
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:21,640
Quinn, the crossovers with Pete Seeger, the crossovers with maybe some mentors I can't

1267
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:30,840
even name, but just an absolute fireball of intensity and knowledge and inspiration.

1268
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,040
Agreed.

1269
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:37,240
But clearly not all of it resonated with you because I can't help but notice you are not

1270
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:42,080
wearing a dunce cap as we do our after party.

1271
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:43,920
We need after party dunce caps.

1272
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:44,920
Oh my God.

1273
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:45,920
Yes, we do.

1274
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:46,920
Right.

1275
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:47,920
We need the pyramids on our heads.

1276
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:48,920
Copper lined.

1277
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,320
Copper lined pyramids on our heads.

1278
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,720
And then we will be really dialed in.

1279
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,600
Well, and since you, since let's do it, I'm in, you know, I'm in.

1280
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:03,080
And that brings up this idea of, and I think I mentioned it yesterday, folks, we were doing

1281
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:08,960
this after party the day after the interview, which is why it's not fresh in our heads.

1282
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:17,720
But just the idea that jewelry and clothing, and again, Don and David, what you put in

1283
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:24,600
and on your body is not just, I feel like in our culture, jewelry has been ascribed

1284
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,680
to a purely aesthetic function, right?

1285
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:34,040
Like it just has, it's like, it's, whether it's like glimmers or it's a lovely shape

1286
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,720
or it falls on your body just so.

1287
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:43,640
But we don't really talk much about the utility, like the energetic utility of metals in jewelry

1288
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:44,640
and crystals.

1289
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:50,160
I mean, it'll come up occasionally, but it's, I still feel like that gets filed in the

1290
01:14:50,160 --> 01:15:01,120
woo woo part of our culture's sort of consciousness and, and so like a dunce cap or a crown or

1291
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:07,480
a copper bracelet or a copper belt or copper ring, like these are, these are utilities

1292
01:15:07,480 --> 01:15:13,760
to be, to harvest energy for our betterment and not just something that makes you look

1293
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,640
tough or makes you look pretty or makes you anything.

1294
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,920
And I mean, I don't even wear my wedding ring because as a musician, I don't like to have

1295
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:28,400
stuff on my hands, but it's made of gold, you know, I should, it should be on my body.

1296
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,480
I should be resonating with that, with that metal.

1297
01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:34,080
It's just got me thinking a lot about, about that.

1298
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,080
Yeah.

1299
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:40,880
What we surround ourselves with, what we put on our bodies, he, the chat about linen,

1300
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,360
linen sheets, I don't know, did we do that?

1301
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,400
Was that even live or was that after the fact?

1302
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:51,000
Because I've got these, I spent a lot of money on 100% organic.

1303
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,480
I think they're cotton or maybe even bamboo sheets.

1304
01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:57,920
And we were chatting with him, I think this was after the fact.

1305
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,040
And he's like, no linen, you know, you want linen because you're not just thinking about

1306
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,520
the material itself, you're thinking about how it holds like static charges or how it

1307
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:10,400
holds charges based on the non native EMF that you might be surrounded by.

1308
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,480
And I had, you know, you don't even, you don't even think about that.

1309
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:14,480
You don't even think about the clothing that you're wearing.

1310
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:17,320
You know, I was always thinking about organic, right?

1311
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:23,320
Organic cotton or organic and recycled cotton, like trying to reduce that specific footprint

1312
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,600
and also just make sure that I'm not putting like toxic things on my body.

1313
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:33,840
But nowhere along that line did I consider the interaction between my clothing and the

1314
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:38,120
electromagnetic field around me, be it like native or non native.

1315
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,600
And that was a real eye opener.

1316
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,600
And now of course I'm looking around my house and what I might, my, my bureau, what's in

1317
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,160
my bureau going, okay, like full new reevaluation.

1318
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,800
And it comes back to what you said, simple versus complex.

1319
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:56,280
And now this is whole nother layer that yes, we were aware of electromagnetic fields,

1320
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:59,240
non native, we're aware of that, but it's okay.

1321
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:04,640
Now how do you integrate that knowledge and awareness into your, your day, into your surroundings

1322
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,280
and what you put on your clothing?

1323
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:10,560
And it, it begs a whole new reevaluation of my life.

1324
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:15,120
It's not just limited to electronics, which is I think where we had compartmentalized

1325
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,120
it, right?

1326
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:20,120
When we talk about like, okay, maybe we should be using wired internet and all this as another

1327
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:26,720
thing I Googled in the last 24 hours is an ethernet adapter for my phone, which exists.

1328
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:28,560
It's like, bring it on.

1329
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,840
But like, I mean, I'm looking at, I'm looking into your apartment, right?

1330
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,600
I've never actually been there in person, right?

1331
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:34,640
But there's a carpet.

1332
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:35,800
You're standing on a carpet.

1333
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:36,800
Garbage.

1334
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,800
It's garbage.

1335
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:38,800
Same here.

1336
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:39,800
Offgassing.

1337
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:40,800
Yeah.

1338
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:46,680
I am, I'm up in my studio and there's this salmon colored carpet that used to be in my

1339
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:51,280
parents' bedroom from New Hampshire that, that was a hand me down.

1340
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:59,440
And, you know, in like the punk rock DIY thrifty mode that I've existed in for most of my life,

1341
01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:05,160
it's like, yeah, use the hand me down upcycle or repurpose or don't throw the rug away,

1342
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:06,160
use it.

1343
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:12,600
And I'm sitting, not only am I sitting presently, but like every record I've ever made is on

1344
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,160
a fucking hive of plastic.

1345
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,160
It's false.

1346
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:18,160
It's fake.

1347
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:24,040
It's gross, you know, which is not to like discredit the work that's been done up here.

1348
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,880
This is an amazing space with beautiful hardwood floors.

1349
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:31,040
Like maybe I should fucking just nick the carpets all together.

1350
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,040
Carpets.

1351
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:33,040
Why are they here?

1352
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,000
The furniture, any sort of furniture that's like plastic.

1353
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:39,680
You know, you just start thinking about again, what was around 100 years ago or what wasn't

1354
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:40,680
around 100 years ago?

1355
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:46,400
Like everyone was wood furniture, like hand carved wood furniture.

1356
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,440
You know, that was it.

1357
01:18:48,440 --> 01:18:54,440
And then organic materials on top of it to make it a little bit softer around the edges.

1358
01:18:54,440 --> 01:18:55,440
All of it, like our bedding.

1359
01:18:55,440 --> 01:18:56,520
Like what are we going to do?

1360
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:57,760
What are we going to sleep on?

1361
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:59,120
What are we going to put on our bodies?

1362
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What are we going to lounge in?

1363
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,720
Like the whole thing just needs to be thrown out.

1364
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,680
Yeah, no, it's true.

1365
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:12,120
And it's, you know, we played a gig at a farm in Maine in the middle of September and I

1366
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met a sheep shearer who was really lovely.

1367
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,480
We had a great conversation, but I don't even think, I think this was a conversation he and

1368
01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:23,280
Ruth had that she relayed to me.

1369
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:32,640
But saying how like keeping sheep is the, in his time in farming made the most sense because

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it can provide milk and meat and clothing.

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01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:42,200
And it just kept going on and on.

1372
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:47,080
It's like everything you need is comprised in this one beautiful animal.

1373
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:56,680
And so this move towards natural fibers and local organic small farms, it just, it becomes

1374
01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:05,480
that much more obvious why we need to keep pushing to champion these type of people and

1375
01:20:05,480 --> 01:20:09,080
communities and farmers because that's what's real.

1376
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:10,080
That's what's real.

1377
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,440
They are purveyors of what is real.

1378
01:20:12,440 --> 01:20:17,800
And you know, simultaneously it's like, you know, we're drowning in plastic and go to

1379
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:24,080
the grocery store and everything's wrapped in plastic and they literally stand opposed

1380
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:25,080
to each other.

1381
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,560
We keep banging our head against the wall saying, what are we going to do with all this

1382
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:28,560
plastic?

1383
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:35,800
Meanwhile, there are these beautiful farmers cranking out actual organic real products.

1384
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:42,720
And so here, here to those people and our embrace of them and championing of them all

1385
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,240
over the world because they're there.

1386
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:46,240
They're there.

1387
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:47,960
It's not like we have to build it all from scratch.

1388
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:52,760
These people actually are here doing the work and we just need to keep supporting them.

1389
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:57,840
Yeah, they're doing nothing less than saving our species and maybe saving our planet from

1390
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:58,840
ourselves.

1391
01:20:58,840 --> 01:20:59,840
That's it.

1392
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:04,760
And maybe they don't even know about fucking copper pyramids in the gardens yet.

1393
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,320
I mean, that's so cool.

1394
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:07,320
Yeah.

1395
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:08,320
Yeah.

1396
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:13,240
Listen, next time we do, next time we do this podcast, I will look like the Persian King

1397
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,040
Xerxes from the Spar and movie 300.

1398
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:17,200
I'm going to have jewelry.

1399
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:18,960
I'm going to have copper everything.

1400
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,440
I'm talking copper piercings all over my body.

1401
01:21:22,440 --> 01:21:26,640
I'm going to set up every metal detector between here and Burlington.

1402
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,320
There's not many, but awesome.

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01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,280
Man, I learned so much, folks.

1404
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:37,680
And we hope you've learned something to head to the website to learn a little bit more

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01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:38,680
about terrain theory.

1406
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,880
We've got a great resource page.

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01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:47,680
We have a whole page on redefining nature, a change.org to literally redefine nature

1408
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,640
as it's written in many dictionaries.

1409
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,000
We have the human species written out of nature right now.

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01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:59,480
And as Mike and I try to get to the root cause of many of the things that hold us back as

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01:21:59,480 --> 01:22:01,800
a species, we see that as one of them.

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01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,920
We need to reinsert ourselves back into nature.

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01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,120
And that's one of the ways we're going to try to do it, change.org.

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Remember that nothing you heard here should be taken as medical advice, as neither Mike

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01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,920
nor I are medical professionals.

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01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:20,920
Remember that you are light, you are love, and you are your primary healthcare provider.

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01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:21,920
We'll catch you on the next one.

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Thank you.