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Hello, welcome to the careers for kids podcast for kids learn careers.

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This is Maxwell Valencia and this is Henry Morrison.

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Today we have Danny Gonzalez, an author and podcaster.

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Hello Mr. Gonzalez.

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Hey, what's up guys?

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Good to meet you all.

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Yeah, thank you for spending your time to be on careers for kids.

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We hope you have a great interview.

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Now let's get started.

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So, tell us what you currently do right now.

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That's a good question, Max.

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Well, I'm a bit of an entrepreneur.

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So I have my own company and it's called Startup Mindsets LLC with your dad if you didn't know

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that.

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But I'm also the author of a book and it's called Startup Mindsets podcast.

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Sorry, that's a podcast, but the book is called Startup Mindsets.

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And yeah, so I'm an author of a book and it's not out yet, but it'll be out in about a week

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or so.

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And yeah, I mean, as an author, you write and you talk to people and you kind of just,

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you want to create a book.

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So that's what I have been up to for the last three or four years.

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Wow, that's great.

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I could talk about like what made me want to write a book or I guess like anything like

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that.

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What was like your interest in making a book about Startup Mindsets?

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You know, it's actually your dad's idea, Earl.

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But I had an English degree from UC Riverside in Southern California.

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And I had been reading a lot of novels at the time when I was like 20 years old.

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And I think to myself, maybe I'd have like the ability to write something as good as

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what I was reading.

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And I think at the time I was going through like a lot of changes, right?

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Like my family moved to a different city as well.

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And I felt kind of wronged by like the landlord of the neighbors I had there who were rather

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like we didn't have the best relationship with them and they're part of the reason why

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we moved.

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And I wanted to write a novel that kind of encapsulated that story.

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But I tried and I didn't end up getting anywhere with that.

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I guess as a person who lives in San Francisco for such a long time, like I always wondered

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like what made the tech industry so successful.

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And then I joined this venture capital program where I got to work as a venture capitalist

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and look at startups and really see like what got them to where they were.

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And the big reason is investments from people on in particular venture capital funds.

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And that's where I met your dad.

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Again, I'm Max.

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And you know, he had the idea for the book and he was talking about it on PowerPoint.

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And I kind of jumped in and asked if I could help him write it.

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And I guess we're fast forward.

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We're here today and we're about to publish it.

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So that's kind of what made me want to do it.

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But I also just have a natural love for writing and literature in general.

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Yeah, that's a good thing.

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Like you it's good to like execute things like like if you have an idea but never like

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capitalize on it, it's just going to be an idea.

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Yeah, like action for things.

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Yeah, I like people who go through with their ideas.

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I mean, not the bad ones, of course.

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But the good ideas, the ideas that you think could actually make a difference or just do

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some good for the world.

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And a lot of people don't go through with their ideas.

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And here.

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Remember, I had an idea of like applying to private high schools, which I remember like

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I forgot about it for a month.

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But now currently I'm working at essays and studying for the like the SSATs and the ICEs.

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Good luck, man.

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Yeah.

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I'm applying to Water Connecticut.

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I hope I get in.

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Oh, wow.

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Over there.

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Would you move back to over there?

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No, it's it's a chote or something.

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It's like it's like 30 minutes from our town or his old town and Westport, Westport.

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And they would not move back here, but it's a boarding school, I believe.

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He can tell you more about it when we're done here.

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So Henry, you have a question, right?

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So tell us more about your career and how you got to this position.

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Henry, I'd say like for me, my career has been one that's been nonlinear.

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And I think prior to becoming an author, I had worked like just various jobs to make

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ends meet or make money.

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And so what was the question again?

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Tell us, tell you all about the career and what?

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Tell us more about it and how you got to this position.

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Like what made you.

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Oh, I see.

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Become what you are.

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Yeah, man.

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So I guess like with the book when it originally like was the book idea and then we had an

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idea to do a podcast and that was kind of the way to record conversations with people

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we wanted to include in the book.

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And eventually, you know, like there was a lot of people asking to be on the show.

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And also, I just saw like how businesses could make money off of a podcast.

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And I really enjoyed talking to successful people and just having like non-structured

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conversations.

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And, you know, from there, it grew into something that could make money.

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And whether that was from advertisers or just what else is there?

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Yeah, book sales, like a book deal.

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And we got the book deal with Penguin Random House in Singapore about a year ago or so.

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And, you know, it's funny I talk about this since we just got the book advance payment

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today.

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But I think like my skills were I could really write and I really enjoyed like journalism

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a lot.

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And I guess like to some extent, I worked in the tech industry and kind of understand

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that world.

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And I wanted to make a thing that would represent all of those.

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And to be honest, actually, now I backtrack and gather my thoughts.

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I had a dream to write a book, you know, and that's what got me into doing this.

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But we'll see where I am in a year.

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So it's like one thing led to another.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean, it was I would say it was unlikely to publish it to just since it

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was really like if we were to do this in a quick way, we would have gotten a deal and

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then we would have wrote it and worked with the publisher.

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But that took some time just them reaching back out to us and trying to negotiate with

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them and, you know.

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What part of like doing this is like your favorite part?

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And what part of it is like you don't really like or like is enjoyable?

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That's a fun question.

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I'll start with the part that I really like.

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And it's I think I really like having these conversations with people and learning about

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them.

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And I really enjoy the business to some extent, too, where you you know, you what's it called?

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You're providing value to someone in exchange for like money, right?

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Or something else.

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And just I guess like the fact of selling something like I enjoy selling something because

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I think I proved myself right or I proved other people wrong when they said I couldn't

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do this.

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And then the fact that the other part about what I don't like is, I guess, just doing

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a little bit of like the tedious tasks of like replying to emails or, you know, trying

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to make content as best as it can, because I'm not the best video editor.

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But yeah, there's there's, you know, certain things that you're going to like and not like

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about any job.

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And you could be the president and you'll definitely have stuff you don't like, you

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know.

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And yeah.

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So was this a dream job you imagine yourself doing when you were a kid?

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Like writing?

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Oh, I don't think podcasting exists.

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So I mean, more so.

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More so.

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More.

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Well, if a kid is like an 18 year old or 20 year old, then yeah.

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But I think I have no idea what I wanted to do as a kid.

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I just wanted to play video games and forget about homework.

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But yeah, what is it called?

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When I was a kid, I'd say like even in the book we wrote a part about like I wanted to

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be like a policeman or something just to fight the bad guys.

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But that's not happening.

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You know, I definitely would say I outdid myself in a sense that like you achieve something

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you never thought or you thought that wasn't likely to happen.

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I think that's really the big thing there.

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Nice.

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So when you were like younger, like when you were a child, like playing video games and

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forgetting about homework, who were your main idols?

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I'd say my dad and my mom.

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Just you know, seeing them come home from work and being able to provide a life and

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being somebody who's like 29 right now for some context and seeing that's not as easy

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as it looks to show up and make money and manage the money and all that.

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It's definitely, I'd say enjoy the youth.

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Like don't screw up at all.

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Why did you pick this?

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Why do you pick this job?

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I mean, with all the jobs out there in the world today, why did you pick this one?

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You know, that's a good question.

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I'd say I think it kind of picked me in a sense because I think as someone who's like

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applied to a lot of jobs and even interviewed in late rounds and never got like a concrete

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offer or a big time offer, I just wanted to follow like my passions and really do something

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that I believe was like a big goal of mine.

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And I guess like, you know, once you see some sort of money coming in from people willing

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to pay you like maybe book sales or, you know, the podcast sells ads or people want to pay

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to be on the podcast or people buy merch or anything like that.

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You tend to believe in yourself more, right?

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Like once you have like a little bit of proof of concept, you kind of, you know, start to

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try to build on that.

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And you know, once you do do that, then what's it called?

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You want to continue doing that, so I think that's what it was.

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But I definitely believe in finding the joy and, you know, the little things you're doing

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every day because, you know, if you don't, then you kind of just are doing the to-do

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list for the rest of your life.

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You know, that's not very fun.

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That's a good answer.

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Thank you.

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So Henry, you have a question.

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So what was your career before this and what made you move on from it?

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Good question Henry.

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Before this, I worked at Airbnb doing like, I was looking at listings and just verifying

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And then, you know, the pandemic happened, but I think that job ended right before the

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pandemic.

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And during the pandemic, that's when I started the podcast.

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Also, I didn't really have like a full on like career exactly, I would say.

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And what made me move on was just the seeing the possibility of what I could do with the

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book.

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You know, if I think about like the successful authors of books and how they've made a career

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in life off of their book idea, that kind of gave me some belief into what I'm working

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So what was the biggest highlight of this cool career?

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I wouldn't know what to say.

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I think that I think the highlight would be just seeing the book on a bookshelf in a bookstore,

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really.

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before it became a physical book.

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You know, that's something I have trouble wrapping my head around.

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But I think, you know, the highlights are really just, I'd say, maybe doing a book signing

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Actually, one of the highlights was selling a book, like a pre-order book to a couple

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selling a couple copies to people I know and, you know, just met, right?

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Like I believe it was two weeks ago, I hung out with one of my friends, like roommates

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and he, I convinced him to buy a book and it was just so cool to make money off of an

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idea.

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And I think that's what everybody in the world wants to experience, right?

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But you know, it's a little different, you know, going to work for like a McDonald's

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or like going to work for like anything anywhere and having your own company, which I have.

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So it's a lot of hard work and you know, to see it pay off is a good thing.

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Yeah, a lot of dedication.

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And like, it's always good to see like after you've built something for like a while, it's

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always good to see how far you've come.

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It's amazing.

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I don't even know how I got here.

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That's how I kind of feel about this podcast.

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Like I'm proud I was able, me and Henry were able to execute an idea.

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Yeah, I mean, it was just like April and we were starting this, staying up late, working

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on the website and everything.

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Now, we look where we are.

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It's awesome.

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All the people, all the amazing people we've talked to.

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You guys interview the mayor of your town.

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That's awesome.

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So what are the biggest challenges that you think can be our, my, sorry.

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What are the biggest challenges that you think can be solved by our generation that you'd

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want us to solve for you?

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Are you asking what's like the biggest challenge that you want that I want to see solved for

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your generation or my generation?

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I mean, we're not that far apart in age if you really think about it.

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So I guess.

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Oh, gotcha, gotcha.

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Gen Y, right?

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Or not Gen Z.

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Gen Z.

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Oh, Gen Z.

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Okay, gotcha.

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You know, I think the world has definitely its share of difficulties and problems.

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I think something that I, Earl, my co-author Earl, who's Maxwell's dad, we wrote about

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in the book was seeing the problem of like poverty solved.

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We thought that poverty led to, you know, a lot of people acting desperate and all that.

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And I think like, you know, there's a lot of problems that we could pick apart and choose

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from.

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But if there was a problem to pick to solve, I think it'd be poverty just since.

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A lot of people do struggle with money and even myself.

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Like, if we could find a way to give them economic empowerment through entrepreneurship

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would be great.

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Like if they read the book that I wrote and saw that they could make something like a

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reality or I don't know, they could just pursue their dreams.

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I think maybe there's even a deeper thought there.

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It's like a problem of being scared of, you know, failure, right?

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Like that's, or being scared of people crushing your dreams and hopes or, you know, making

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fun of you or whatever.

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Like anything like that, I think that's a problem that we love to combat and put away

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with since, you know, like a lot of people, myself included, will, you know, not want

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to do something because they're scared it's going to fail.

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And I think that's kind of the problem we try to solve with the book.

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Yeah.

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So here's the thing.

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Don't be scared of failure.

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Just think of what could happen.

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Think about the good things.

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Like think about success instead of what if I fail?

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What if I succeed?

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What if I get it done?

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And if someone wants to follow in your footsteps as an author, a podcaster, what would you

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tell him or her?

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You know, I'd say that whenever you come up against like a hurdle or like a mental challenge

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where you're not seeing what you want to happen, I'd say just have faith in yourself and try

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to get somebody to help you.

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Or sometimes it's just a matter of being persistent.

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And, you know, I have the saying, it's persistent, persistence beats resistance.

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And you know, I think that if you don't give up, there's not really a way you could lose

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in the end, right?

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I think like in sports too, like you'll feel like the winner if you tried your really best.

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And I think that's it.

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You know, it's not about making X amount of dollars or anything.

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I think it's about the personal success where you feel like you accomplish something that

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meant a lot to you.

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And I think that's what I would say.

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So what is your main life advice for kids listening to this podcast?

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Oh, yeah, man.

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I mean, kids just have fun and be creative or be curious about things that interest you,

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you know, like if it's at school or if it's after school stuff, like ask questions and,

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you know, don't be afraid to do something that you're not used to doing or, you know,

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anything like that.

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Thank you so much, Mr. Gonzalez, for allowing us to interview you.

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I'm sure more kids will be inspired by this interview.

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Oh, yeah, anytime.

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And thank you for, you know, the time today too.

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Whoever's listening, thanks for listening to the podcast.

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Hope you enjoyed the episode and we'll see you in the next one.

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Bye.