1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,680 Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Well, I've decided this morning when I woke up that I 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,280 wanted to make some more friends. So I'm going to tell you why I think the nova 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:12,120 sordo will disappear necessarily and why ultimately it's not the will of God. So 4 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:16,320 buckle up for that if you're somebody who has a problem with that. And we're going 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:23,160 to get into not just my surface superficial rad rad opinions, but we're 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,680 going to look at I think some pretty important theological concepts and 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:34,480 hopefully it makes sense. Now, also, it should be noted that this is not an 8 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:40,680 indictment on any person. The lay faithful are not responsible for the 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,200 liturgical actions of hierarchs and the Pope. It's not your fault. 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Why am I 35 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,680 saying that this liturgy itself, not just egregious demonstrations of it, but why 36 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,920 the liturgy itself isn't actually going to last and why it ought to disappear? 37 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:42,800 Well, before we even understand that, we've got to understand the purpose of 38 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,320 the mass in and of itself. And here is just a quick overview of the four ends 39 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:52,200 of mass. The first is adoration. Through the mass we give God solemn worship, 40 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,400 praise and honor. The second is thanksgiving. Through the mass we thank 41 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,520 God for all he has bestowed. The third is propitiation. Through the mass the 42 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,760 representation of the sacrifice of Christ upon Calvary, re-presentation, not 43 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:10,080 representation, God's justice for the sins of mankind is satisfied. Petition. 44 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,040 The fourth is petition. Through the mass we present God with our needs and ask for 45 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,520 graces. So number one, we adore God. Number two, we give 46 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,000 thanksgiving. Number three, we ask for the propitiation for the sins of 47 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:30,360 mankind. And number four, we ask for our needs. So Catholics understand this. Mass 48 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,880 is offered for the forgiveness of sins. We go to mass and we 49 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,360 bring things to the Lord. When we go to mass we worship God in mass and we adore 50 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:45,440 him and we give him thanksgiving. This is why, for example, Eucharistic 51 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,720 adoration is an amazing thing, but it doesn't satisfy all the different ends of 52 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,600 mass. It's adoration. And we give thanksgiving and stuff, but it can't 53 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,160 that actual, we could probably fulfill three. We could give thanksgiving, we 54 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,560 could give adoration, and we could have our petitionary prayers, but we wouldn't 55 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,960 be able to offer the sacrifice. This is why Protestantism is unable to 56 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:10,720 actually, is unable to worship God properly. It's impossible. And in fact, in 57 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,240 a book that I have here, which I did a three-hour podcast on Outside the Church 58 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,360 There's No Salvation, I recommend you listen to it there. This is really just a 59 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,440 long essay put together by a friend of mine named Mr. James Hanisch. It's not in 60 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,000 print. It's sort of a, you gotta be in the know to get the copy of this. 61 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:32,000 And all non-Catholic worship, all heretical schismatic worship, is actually 62 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:37,920 hateful to God. It is displeasing to God. It is impossible for, it is impossible 63 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,640 for a Protestant worship service to be pleasing to God. It offends God every 64 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:49,920 single time it happens. The individual person, you know, they may find their way 65 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:55,160 to the truth through the imperfect nature of their Protestant sect, which is a 66 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:01,080 heretical sect, in which no one can be saved. And that may happen, but the 67 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:06,640 actual worship itself, the act of worship, is detestable and is an abomination. All 68 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,800 non-Catholic worship, all schismatic, heretical, and non-Christian worship is 69 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,240 an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. This is what the Church has taught for 70 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,680 many, many centuries. Sadly, many Catholics don't understand this today 71 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,200 because it makes them squeamish, because we're all about ecumenism and the spirit 72 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,360 of Vatican too, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But anyway, so the forens of mass 73 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,240 must be reached. Must give adoration, thanksgiving, perpetuation, and petition. 74 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:39,160 So you have to ask yourself, is it possible that you could ever put together 75 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:45,720 a liturgy that would fulfill those ends more or less than another liturgy? Of 76 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:53,040 course it is. And even those who are fans of the nobis ordo, you must admit to 77 00:05:53,040 --> 00:06:00,480 yourself that the impetus for a massive reformation of the mass, or restructuring 78 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:07,920 let's call it, the idea is that the mass that preceded it didn't meet the needs 79 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,960 of the people. Ultimately, the idea is that there was a deficiency. And this is 80 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,440 where sometimes I'll get accused of things by Pope's-plainer types and they'll 81 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,480 say things like, well look, Kennedy, the Council of Trent says that the Church 82 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,280 will never, the Council of Trent says that, I think whatever Canada is, 23, 83 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:28,040 something like that, the Council of Trent says that the Church will never produce 84 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,600 a mass that is a cause for impiety. I'm paraphrasing. And they'll say, you're 85 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,640 saying the new mass causes impiety. You're a heretic. Let you be an Athaman. 86 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:40,160 I'm the YouTube Magisterium. Look at me. Well, that's interesting. For one, piety 87 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,960 is a technical religious term. It talks about whether or not the mass will 88 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:50,120 be offered as a valid sacrifice or not. But secondly, if you believe that the 89 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,520 mass needed to change, then you believe that there was something that was not 90 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,680 being fulfilled, objectively speaking, by the old mass, which means it was 91 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,400 deficient. You can't escape this. Now there's a big difference between massive 92 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:08,480 restructuring and let's say organic development of the liturgy, the 93 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,600 refinement over time. Those are different things. Of course, there's 94 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:19,640 always been very, very, let's say minute and precise refinements to the liturgy 95 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,760 over thousands of years. But this wholesale change is completely unheard 96 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,520 of that happened with the new mass. So you've got to keep these things in mind 97 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,120 before we even talk about the liturgy. Does it meet the forens? Is it part of 98 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:35,160 the church's tradition? Well, ultimately, I will argue here. And again, please 99 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,760 read Dr. Krasniewski's book and Father Modzley's book if you can. A host of 100 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,120 other books by Michael Davies are great to read as well. But I will argue here 101 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:50,400 that the new mass isn't actually part of the sacred tradition. And it's also not 102 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:56,440 really even the Roman rite. And that's because if it's not apostolic through 103 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,080 the apostolic Roman tradition, if it's not part of that, then it can't be 104 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,280 naturally speaking the Roman rite. At best, what we have is we have a mass 105 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,200 that's sort of been grafted onto a tree. And if you know anything about horticulture, 106 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,800 you can do that the right way, or it causes the host to die. And you can make 107 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,360 your decision about what's happened with the new mass over the last 50 or 60 108 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:21,960 years. But I want to just bring up here real quickly, something from Dr. 109 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:28,600 Krasniewski speaking of his book. And here is a selection from oopsie daisy is 110 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:36,440 a selection from his book, the once and future Roman rite. This is a PDF copy. In 111 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:41,160 any case, so this is on a chapter, we talked about sort of the laws that 112 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,800 pertain to liturgy. And we're not going to go through all of those. But just real 113 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,280 quickly, we're going to get to law number three, which pertains to what I'm trying 114 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,920 to say here. So you can see here law number three, I think that's big enough 115 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:57,440 on the screen for everyone to read. And it says, law number three, the truth into 116 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,400 which the Holy Spirit guides the church includes the development of her liturgy. 117 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,640 So let's just pause there for a second. The claim here is the truth into which 118 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,720 the Holy Spirit guides the church includes the development of her liturgy. 119 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,720 Good ask yourself, do you believe that? If you believe that that's going to have 120 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,320 consequences. And let's just think about that for a second. If the Holy Ghost is 121 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,400 guiding the church, by the way, trads, you can say Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost. If 122 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,840 you look in the Angelus press missile and some of the old prayers, it does say 123 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:29,360 Holy Spirit. It's not it's not a it's not a trad non trad thing. Although Holy 124 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,360 Ghost is more common. I say it but it's not like it's not like your modernist 125 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:42,480 you say Holy Spirit anyway. So what was I saying? Okay, so if you believe that the 126 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,560 Holy Ghost guides the church, then that must necessarily include the liturgy. 127 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:55,600 Because where we have contact with the doctrine of the church laid out where 128 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,600 all Catholics have interaction with the essence of what the church is here for, 129 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,840 which is the salvation of our souls, which again think of those four ends of 130 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:07,120 mass, including the propitiation of our sins. 131 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:12,880 If that's the case, then that means the Holy Ghost must guide the liturgy. It's 132 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,600 not as if the Holy Ghost guides the church and says make it up as you go 133 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,920 along. So then you got to ask yourself and Dr. Krasniewski will illuminate this 134 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,880 bit for us. How can we know if something is of the Holy Ghost when it comes to 135 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,560 liturgy and something is not of the Holy Ghost when it comes to liturgy? Well, 136 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:32,520 because here's the problem. Many Catholics who are sympathetic towards 137 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,640 tradition but ultimately fall into these neo-modernist traps, and I've heard this 138 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,280 many times, they'll say things like, well I get it, I prefer the traditional mass, 139 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:44,000 but you know look at the mass of, I think St. Justin Martyr is one of them, you 140 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,840 know look at the masses that were celebrated by some of these church 141 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,040 fathers and they seem to fit in some ways with the Nova Sorda. So how can you 142 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,600 say the Nova Sorda was bad? Well let's look about it this way. 143 00:10:54,600 --> 00:11:02,360 The Holy Ghost did not preserve those liturgies. The Holy Ghost did not 144 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:08,680 preserve those liturgies. It's not that God's will changed, but let's just think 145 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:12,920 for a moment here about the Old Testament because you could go even 146 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,800 further. You could say, well why don't we just do what they all did in the Old 147 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,920 Testament? Why doesn't the mass look like it did in the temple? You 148 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,680 know we could keep going with this and say, well if tradition just means 149 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:26,560 something that's ancient, why don't we decide to do what's the oldest thing? 150 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:30,000 Wouldn't that be more traditional? There are many reasons why we don't do the Old 151 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,760 Testament anymore. That's another conversation for another day. I'm just 152 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,280 using it to illuminate a point. One of those reasons is because the Holy Ghost 153 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,800 did not preserve the Old Testament traditions. In fact, Christ came to 154 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,320 fulfill the law not to abolish it and there was a new covenant and the 155 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,320 prefigurement of the Old Testament had filled its purpose. There's a way to 156 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,480 understand this. If you want to explain this to your kids, if they ask, well why 157 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,120 was that something a rule they had to follow back then and a rule I don't have 158 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:57,040 to follow now? None of the divine laws, none of the divine commands, none of the 159 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,680 moral laws, natural laws, etc. None of that ever change. What you do have is 160 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:06,360 positive laws, even divine positive laws, but none of those positive laws that 161 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,560 change either through the guidance of the Apostles, through the bishops and the 162 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:14,880 pulp and so on and so forth in the New Testament, or you have direct revelations 163 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,720 to God through his prophets during the prefiguring time of the Old Testament 164 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,280 leading up to the New Testament. This is how this happens. Ultimately, this 165 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,240 is a matter of revelation. If you believe in God and you believe in the Creator and 166 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,520 Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost, if you believe in the Trinity, you're gonna have 167 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,380 to accept some of these things based on revelation and faith. That's kind of as 168 00:12:33,380 --> 00:12:37,520 far as we can go with it, but there's a direct revelation to Moses, for example, 169 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:43,800 where things are revealed that weren't revealed before. Christ comes to 170 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,360 bring this ultimately into fulfillment for us, into its fullness. 171 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,000 Here's a way to explain how this is possible with your kids. You say, 172 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,760 listen, and I got this example from Gavin Ashenden. If you're watching this 173 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,400 Gavin Ashenden, thank you for this wonderful example. I saw you talk about 174 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:03,000 it on one of your shows. If you have children, you will give your children 175 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:09,000 rules that they must follow when they're young, but not when they're older, and 176 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,160 rules that they must always follow. This is the example that Gavin Ashenden gave. 177 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:19,600 He would tell his kids, when daddy says, you must always hold my 178 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,560 hand when we cross the street, and you must never drink what is under the sink. 179 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:28,080 Now, when you get older, you don't have to hold daddy's hand when you cross the 180 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,760 street, but you must never drink what's under the sink. Some things are never 181 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:38,360 permissible. Some things serve a purpose for the maturation or protection of a 182 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:45,920 child. Something similar happens with the liturgical development in the 183 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:51,840 church. Let's keep that in mind as we now look back to what Dr. Kwasniewski has 184 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:58,160 to say regarding the development and the preservation of the liturgy by the Holy 185 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:03,080 Ghost. Think to yourself, if it's not preserved, then it's not the will of the 186 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,800 Holy Ghost. Otherwise, it would be preserved. Because also the word 187 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:13,560 tradition means, definitionally, especially in the religious sense, to pass something 188 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:17,900 on, to guard something for safekeeping. That's what the word ultimately means. So 189 00:14:17,900 --> 00:14:21,680 the Holy Ghost will guard what is necessary. This is why Pope Francis's 190 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,440 encyclical, Guardians of Tradition, is such a mockery. It's the opposite. 191 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,620 The Novus Ordo is not the Guardian of Tradition, and Pope Francis is using 192 00:14:30,620 --> 00:14:36,200 this. He's showing us his hand by using the opposite of the truth to sort of 193 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:41,280 flip the argument on its head. But anyway, let's look at Dr. K. Dr. K goes on 194 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:46,280 and he says the following, hence any significant or wholesale rejection of 195 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:51,040 elements that have come to be practiced and accepted over a long period of time, 196 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:57,000 long period of time is important, in the church is in a certain sense a sin 197 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:02,960 against the Holy Spirit. Big words. And any attempt to recast a right from the 198 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,200 ground up cannot but reflect the false theology of the church and the Trinity. 199 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:12,400 And he has a footnote here. Let's read this. And this is, he's talking about an 200 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,280 objection that will arise. He says, to the objection, how can you say this 201 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:21,400 about work endorsed by the popes? Question. He replies, we are not privy to 202 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,760 what certain popes were thinking or intending when they overthrew centuries 203 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:29,400 of tradition. But we know very well what they did and the harm it has caused in 204 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:35,280 ever widening waves. Were they aware that they were resisting the work of God the 205 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,600 opus Dei, the outward signs of the inward dwelling of the Holy Spirit in the 206 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,920 church? How could they not have been aware? And if they were emboldened by 207 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,560 the ambiance of ultramontanism, the pope can do no wrong, his will is 208 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:53,680 divine law, exempt from error, exempted from imprudence, etc. Or by the swaggering 209 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,560 of aggiornamento, that's sort of, let's get with the times, that's what that 210 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,560 means. Can we not say that they should have known better? The pope is not after 211 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:05,880 all Johnny from the local parish, who may not know and perhaps has no duty to 212 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:11,040 know much about theology, scripture, canon law, or liturgy. And he continues, 213 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:20,320 as part of this law, father the extension, whoopsie daisy, oh, this is all the more 214 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,120 apparent if we recall that the liturgy is the locus of divine revelation given 215 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,680 by the father, the extension through time and space of the incarnation of the Son, 216 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:34,280 the outpouring of the Spirit in the prayer of the Bride of Christ. So let's 217 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:42,000 summarize that here. What he's saying is, the Holy Ghost preserving the liturgy, 218 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,520 the Holy Ghost preserving the liturgy, this is clear when something is 219 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,760 established as part of the life of Catholic liturgical life of the church 220 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:56,760 for a long, long time. So yes, do you find in the early centuries of the church, do 221 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,920 you find different types of liturgies? Of course you do, but you find only 222 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:09,600 preserved those which become part of the sacred apostolic tradition of the church. 223 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:15,440 That's what you find. The ones that were left aside, they weren't evil and they 224 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,000 served a purpose just like the laws you give your children when they're young. 225 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,200 You have to hold their hand when you cross the street, but you can mature 226 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:27,680 beyond that. And I want to just go back to something that Dr. K said here which 227 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:33,920 I think is important. Law number four, as the liturgy develops it becomes fuller 228 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,040 and more perfect both as an expression of the mysteries of faith and as a 229 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,080 vehicle for inculcating appropriate virtues in the faithful and for 230 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:47,720 eliciting from them the acts of faith, hope and charity that are demanded by 231 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:57,200 the mysteries. If you might allow me here to sort of philosophize for a moment. 232 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,800 You know, I recommend everybody should read the book Confessions by St. Augustine 233 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,840 and in fact if you do like audiobooks it is available. I just recorded Anthony 234 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,360 Esalen's recent translation for Tan. You can find that on Audible, Scribd or I 235 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:14,080 could just call it Everin now, but in those places maybe Spotify, I don't know. 236 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:19,000 All the places that have audiobooks. And one of the things you realize when you 237 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,520 understand the church's philosophical and theological direction especially as 238 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,680 illuminated by Augustine and then perfected by Aquinas is that there are 239 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:34,440 degrees of being. What does that mean? Well you could say it like this, God 240 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:39,760 exists more than we exist. You might think to yourself, how does that work? Well, 241 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:45,360 God's existence is not dependent on anyone. His self exists, self-sustaining. 242 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:50,680 Therefore, he's immutable, which means unchanging, which means there is no, there 243 00:18:50,680 --> 00:19:00,080 can be no corruption in God. His existence in its full surest sense. We 244 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,000 however, exist in relation to the sustainer who keeps us in existence and 245 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,440 therefore we actually don't possess in ourselves the perfection of full 246 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:17,120 existence. We understand this concept when we look at the traditional sacred 247 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:22,040 architecture in the church. Although it is true that historically in places like 248 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,280 mission territory there would be wooden churches that would be built, over time 249 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,720 you will find that if those places last they will build a stone church on the 250 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,120 same property or they'll bolster that church with stones or cement or concrete 251 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:38,800 over time to make sure it lasts forever. In fact, you can't actually consecrate an 252 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:44,600 altar in a Catholic church unless that altar is essentially made of stone and 253 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:49,320 attached to the ground. Why is that? Because something that is the house of God and 254 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:56,560 is consecrated in a very special way must be permanent. Literature is the same. We 255 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:01,520 understand, well actually let me add one more thing. Also within the Latin and 256 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,520 Eastern traditions we have two different ways of talking about the beatific vision 257 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:14,640 union with God. In the East they'll use this term theosis. Essentially, if I'm 258 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,160 getting that wrong, please don't, but I believe that's term. Sorry I'm speaking 259 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,520 off the cuff here. But essentially it's a type of becoming God. Now not becoming 260 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,760 God in the pantheistic sense, but when you talk to Eastern Catholic priests and 261 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,400 things like that they'll actually say things like we become God in the beatific 262 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,960 vision. Doesn't mean we go and become one with God in the pantheistic Hindu 263 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:39,160 sense where Atman becomes part of Brahman, but we become God insofar as our 264 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:47,480 nature unites itself to God's nature to the point where there is a unified 265 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:53,600 relationship where it's as if we actually are divinized ourselves. Okay. 266 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,680 And this is why pantheistic religions are so dangerous is because they can 267 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:03,160 play on this and bring us into some weird places which are heretical. In the 268 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,400 West we wouldn't necessarily talk about that in the same way. Instead we would 269 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:13,480 use a term we would say we possess God. And what does it mean to possess God? 270 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:19,940 How can we possess God if God sustains us and possesses us? How can we possess 271 00:21:19,940 --> 00:21:24,080 him? Well this is only possible through the incarnation. God condescends himself. 272 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,880 St. Augustine goes over this again. I recommend his confessions and he goes 273 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,760 over how can it be that God can dwell in my soul when the world is 274 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,240 not big enough for God to dwell in it? Or how is it that I dwell in 275 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,280 God and he dwells in me? This is a mystery and that's too much for us to go 276 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:44,360 into here, but these are the terms that we use. So if we become God, become like 277 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:51,960 God, if we possess God where we have this sharing, this fraternity, this 278 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,800 relationship with God, this union with God which is fulfilled in the beatific 279 00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:02,720 vision, then the things that are on earth that are divine and remember what did 280 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:07,680 they call the mass in the East? They call it the divine liturgy. Okay the things 281 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:13,120 that are on earth that are divine must in the best way possible in order to be 282 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:18,800 pleasing to God, they must present and possess the attributes that are divine. 283 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:26,040 They must be beautiful. They must be unchanging. They must be clear. There is 284 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:31,840 no ambiguity in God. They must be represent, they must be a representation 285 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,800 of the divine power and what is that divine power with regards to liturgy? 286 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:41,320 Well of course there's the Holy Sacrament, but also Christ who is God 287 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:46,360 says to the Apostles, I give you, I'm paraphrasing, I give you my power. The 288 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:49,480 Apostles possess this power to bind and loose and so on and so 289 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:55,520 forth. They are the, the Pope is the Prime Minister if that makes sense and 290 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,400 the Apostles possess the power of the office that is only 291 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,080 possible through Apostolic succession. 292 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:10,680 For liturgy to be apostolic and to be part of the divine apostolic tradition, 293 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:16,320 it must contain those characteristics otherwise it falls short. We can't avoid 294 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:22,760 this. So when we look to the Nova Sordo we get to a position where we realize it 295 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:29,800 just doesn't possess these characteristics and the only way that you can argue 296 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,760 against that really is to fall into certain errors and one of the errors, and 297 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,400 this plays off of the idea what's true and false tradition, one of the errors is 298 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:44,320 that well if you really want tradition go back to the early church. Well again 299 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,880 we've kind of been over this. It's not, tradition is not about a certain place 300 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:57,360 in time. Tradition does not mean old. Tradition means preserved. Pope St. 301 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:02,240 Pius, or not Pope St. Pope Pius XII, he's not canonized, Pope Pius XII in his 302 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:08,560 encyclicals, Mediator Dei, Humanae Generis, etc. he actually talks about this 303 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,880 false antiquarianism and what is this false antiquarianism? It means going 304 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:20,080 back to the beginning to justify the changes you're doing now. If we believe 305 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:26,080 that the church has been guided by the Holy Ghost for centuries, millennia, then 306 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,000 we must believe that the Holy Ghost has guided the church well and this is what's 307 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,880 so fascinating about these arguments by these sort of neo-modernist commentators 308 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,360 of our day who try to do apologetics for the Nova Sordo. They're implicitly, not 309 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:43,280 explicitly always, implicitly indicting the church of 20 centuries and basically 310 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,040 saying, you know, well we needed this change. Well why do we need this change? 311 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:52,880 Well because that liturgy wasn't up to snuff or whatever. Well if that's the 312 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,920 case, that's a pretty strong indictment against the Holy Ghost that he sort of 313 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,600 was on vacation for 20 centuries. Or you have to believe that what is the 314 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,040 long-standing will of God in the church somehow magically changes overnight, 315 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,800 which doesn't really fit the attributes of God, does it? Because we know 316 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:15,120 that God's will is unchanging. If there is any change in what's expected of us, 317 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:19,800 again these are little things like you don't have to hold my hand when we cross 318 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,120 the street, but you still must never drink what's under the sink. And we have, 319 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:28,920 we found that already fulfilled. We find by the fourth, fifth, sixth century that 320 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:35,520 these sort of liturgies of the infancy of the church, these are refined and 321 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,360 those which are to be preserved are preserved and those which are to be 322 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:46,320 cast away are cast aside. We see this played out. So ultimately the novasorto, 323 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,640 the novasorto cannot fit. It cannot be part of sacred tradition because it's 324 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,240 not preserved as part of sacred tradition. It cannot be apostolic because 325 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,560 you can't trace the novasorto to any apostle and it therefore can't 326 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:05,040 really even be the Roman rite. It can't be of the Roman rite. It's the 327 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,440 use, it's a missile promulgated by the Pope. That's all other conversation, yes. 328 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,960 But it can't really be the Roman rite because it's not actually Roman, if you 329 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,680 understand what I mean by that. So what is it? Well, Archbishop Lefebvre, he would 330 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,080 use a term that makes everybody upset when they don't speak French and he 331 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,480 would call a bastard rite. Whoa, that sounds very offensive, but bastard in 332 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,560 French is not used the same way as an insult as in English, maybe here and 333 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,080 there, but it's not like if you call somebody a bastard in English, it's like 334 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,280 you know, it's like offending their mother, you know. It's a technical 335 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:43,200 term. It means a child who is an orphan. It means a child who doesn't 336 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:49,120 have a father. That's what it means. And this word was used much more frequently 337 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:53,800 in the past. It wasn't as politically correct. The novasorto is a bastard 338 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:59,040 rite. It doesn't have a fatherly origin because it doesn't find itself in the 339 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,160 Apostles and it doesn't find itself preserved by the Holy Trinity over 20 340 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:11,600 centuries. It just comes out of nowhere. For all these reasons, the novasorto, it 341 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:17,520 can't last because it's not the positive will of God. And we also know that it 342 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,160 just simply can't last based on numbers. There's not a single place on earth 343 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,480 where the novasorto is the predominant liturgy, where they are thriving. And 344 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,800 people will point to Africa. Africa is starting to have signs of decay and you 345 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:37,520 have to look beyond. So you have to understand in Africa, it is a place that 346 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,720 is extremely conservative in its religiosity. Everyone is either a 347 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,840 Protestant or a Muslim or a Catholic in Sub-Saharan Africa especially. And in 348 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,320 those places, no one's an atheist. Everyone goes to church. Also, Christians 349 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,560 are heavily persecuted. So even if you have a deficient liturgy, when you're 350 00:27:54,560 --> 00:28:00,600 persecuted, you hold fast to the faith. Although in places that were 351 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,840 predominantly Catholic, that were sort of French and Belgian colonies for 352 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:09,080 example, many of those places, the novasorto, the Catholic Church has 353 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,280 actually been taken over and usurped by the Protestants. And you have to look at 354 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:19,240 Latin America as well. Latin America is the Protestant Church, especially in 355 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:24,640 places like Brazil, historically Catholic havens. The Protestant 356 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,280 churches are exploding and people are leaving the novasorto. Why? Well, because 357 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,960 the novasorto imbibes in them a Protestant spirit, but it doesn't do 358 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:38,640 Protestantism as well as the Protestants. And you also, if people are going to say, 359 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,440 well, because there are certain places in Africa where the novasorto is doing 360 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,160 well, therefore it must be God's will. Well, there are many places where the 361 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,720 Islam and the Protestant churches are doing well. So is that also God's will? 362 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,400 You've got to be a little bit more sophisticated than that when you're 363 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,400 talking about these things. And for all the reasons I've talked about, whether or 364 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,840 not there's a blip on the radar here and there, this is the exception that proves 365 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,400 the rule. Take a look at Europe, take a look at Latin America, take a look at 366 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,360 Quebec, which was the strongest Catholic culture in the world until 60 years ago 367 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,880 basically. And the mass changes and everybody leaves. And it's not the only 368 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,160 reason, but it's a major reason. So for these and all the reasons I've 369 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,960 described, we must admit that the novasorto, it must disappear, it must 370 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:25,240 disappear, and it must go away and it will. Demographically it will be gone and 371 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,640 it is not something that is part of the sacred tradition given to us by the 372 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,520 Apostles and preserved by the Holy Ghost. Again, this is not indictment on any 373 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,680 single person, but these are the facts as they say. All right, as 374 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,440 always, let me know what you think in the comments. This has been the Kennedy 375 00:29:43,440 --> 00:30:12,720 Report. Until next time, God bless.