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Hey everybody welcome to Larry and Needles show.

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Needles isn't here. This is kind of a special episode.

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I got my brother Nick here.

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You often hear us talk about No Shirt Nick.

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Yeah. Here he is.

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Wow.

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And he didn't want to come on Larry and Needles show

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for the longest time because you know

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he didn't want to lose his employment.

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But then I got shit canned anyway so here I am.

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Laughter

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All of that corporate cow-towing I did all for nothing.

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Well it happens. I did that too.

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Yeah that's the way of the world unfortunately.

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You do everything for those bastards.

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You miss funerals, birthdays, whatever.

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And then in the end when they don't need you

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it's like they never fucking knew you.

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That's it. It's terrible.

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That's really it you know.

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But you know I was thinking about it.

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I mean it's like.

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Oh sure thank you.

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Yeah I mean you...

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And it's not like I'm bitter.

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I mean I'm glad I did it for the amount of time that I did.

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I gotta do this light.

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Yeah yeah.

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Because it set me up to actually.

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You learned a lot too.

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Yeah you learned a lot you know and it's like.

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See how much better the picture got when I asked you that light bulb.

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No I was thinking about it.

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It's like yeah I...

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Now I'm just the rocker but really if I was just doing one or the other

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I wouldn't have been really that happy you know.

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If I gave up everything for corporate.

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I never did.

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And then now that I'm out of it it's like

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I'm glad I was making that money.

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But basically you're in there and you know

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you're not really having a soul.

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You know they say you're not having any social interactions for real.

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You gotta learn shit continually on your own dime.

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And so to stay abreast of technology.

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What do you mean on your own dime?

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You know they you know in the beginning they used to maybe put you through a

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training course here and there like back in the early days.

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So you had to pay for that?

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No you never had to.

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Like a learning thing or...

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You never had to.

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Well yeah you had to pay for it yourself in the end.

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But really you just kind of learn on the job.

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But to stay abreast they always wanted you to work in some new technology.

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That was trendy.

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That was sometimes didn't last very long.

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Sometimes it did.

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And how do you learn this shit?

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You learn all this stuff.

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Yeah you're putting in you know not 40 hours.

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But 50, 60, 70 hours a week.

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I mean the weekends that you work.

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Getting up in the middle of the night.

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Doing all this shit.

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And then you're right the second that...

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Go behind the camera please ma'am.

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Ma'am behind the camera.

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Oh that's okay.

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Joe?

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Yeah.

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Bring this up.

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Yeah yeah not right the second time.

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We're actually doing Larry and Neal's show.

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Hi Gary.

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Good how are you?

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Good good.

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How's your birthday?

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Oh it's not yet but thank you.

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28th.

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28th yeah.

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We could go by your mom on Sunday?

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Yeah yeah yeah.

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It's Tuesday but let's shoot for Sunday.

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I'm supposed to record with the boys.

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Cataclyne Sunday.

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Will Jennifer come?

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You mean you didn't see her when?

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A couple days ago.

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But we were at my mom's.

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Yeah we were.

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But yeah that was cool so.

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Okay Mary.

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Love you.

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Yeah so you know it's like it's pretty lonely even though you're in a like a corporate

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setting you know and then you're in these meetings.

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Everyone's willing to work you know a lot of the Indians and such they'll work fucking

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90 hours a week.

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Yes and for a lot less money.

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Yeah yeah and so culturally it was it was a rough ride.

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I mean it's rough riding technology and staying abreast of every twist and turn but then yeah

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culturally I mean I've worked at places where I was the only token white guy in the sea

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of Indians that were right from.

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Oh shit.

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Needles would love that.

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Yeah I know he's a big fan but you know and you know what I mean I love the work ethic

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the people were very nice everything was you know it was a great experience in a way.

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I mean I have no ill will or bad feeling about it.

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I mean if I were them trying to get out of a third worldish country.

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You work for fucking 90 hours too.

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To them this is like easy.

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Luxury.

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Exactly so people are shitin in the street.

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Yeah exactly so I mean you know.

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Needles would be able to tell you because he's got a map.

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Is it right to be you know.

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Shit.

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Is it right to be working like a slave maybe not but is it is the American way the best

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way now where people don't want to do jack shit you know and it's like.

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Definitely not.

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Yeah it needs to be somewhere in the middle.

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That's where it comes in with these guys are saying you know we need to get some foreigners

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in here some people that are smart and it's like well.

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Why can't we use our own people and blah blah blah and they're getting mad at Elon Musk.

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First of all Elon Musk is a fucking foreigner.

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And second of all the reason is because they took all the fucking incentive away.

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The kids don't want to learn because they're getting rewarded for mediocrity.

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That's right.

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And if you look at the Excel nobody gets any you know nobody nobody shines and so all the

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engineers are these Indian kids and Chinese kids and Japanese kids.

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Fucking valued learning.

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We have no we are we are values on joy and comfort and fucking luxury.

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And the American way.

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And pronouns and feelings and things like this.

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This is late stage democracy.

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You know it's like we've built we've worked hard and we actually succeeded.

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You know we've taken our eye off the ball and concerned with all of these social things

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I think we still have the American spirit which is absolutely one of you know creativity.

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It is but boy I'll tell you you know I really feel filled with hope and even still you know

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and and you know we've been down these roads and I just think like yeah you know hopefully

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we're hitting our rock bottom moment where it's like oh we gotta wake up a little bit

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Well it's not it's you know what here's what it is it's like a saw blade it goes down it

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gets bad and then it gets a little better and then it goes down again and then it's it

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always swings back and forth but every time.

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Trajectory is still downward.

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getting to the end of one of these saw blade tips before it swings back it seems like what

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People are crazy fucking what's going on.

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what is the actual trajectory in history for civilization to reign supreme or to be you

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know jiving properly before everything crumbles everything crumbles eventually.

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had it going on everybody had it going at one time.

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250 year run so far.

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I don't think that's very long to tell you the truth.

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I think that Rome I think those other empires lasted longer you know.

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we're still the leader of the world so even in our death.

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We're still better.

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We're still better.

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that could still take many many years.

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the life of luxury fucking you know fuck a beautiful girl and living in a great house

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with a fucking Hanracar and the cool and all this shit.

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And so they even fucking start to deteriorate when they come here.

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Sure sure it's funny I played at a private party for some rich.

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This weekend or.

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No this was over the summer and you know I pulled up and I mean this paved driveway

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going along all white Mercedes white this you know.

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I was just like yeah the house was mad.

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I'm like shit I should have charged more you know but it was it was an Indian guy you know

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Yeah they were partying hard too you know drinking hard and I was like dang man you know I said

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They're fucking party.

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They're not and yeah and I'm like well what business are you in he's like we're in pain

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management.

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Super fucking money maker.

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Yeah I had no idea what that all entails.

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Damn well people definitely like managing your pain here in the US.

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Yeah you know and and that's the thing you know and it's like that's why like you know

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I look at that life and then I'm now I'm gigging only and like I'm thinking about.

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Think about that guy and then now think about these motherfuckers that are homeless living

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in the tent and how cold it has been the last couple of days.

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Like homeless Tommy.

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Yeah but he wants to live in the tent.

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Yeah he does but I wonder what they feel like when it's zero like you know minus ten degrees

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It's fucking cold.

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It's super super cold.

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Today I went and got coffee the car was not even warmed up by the time I was coming back.

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I was already home and it wasn't it still wasn't warmed up.

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It was like fuck is it cold.

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The ice on my window and shit I couldn't scrape it off because my scraper's fucking

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disrepair.

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No doubt no doubt well yeah no and now like.

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So wait how many Indians were at the party.

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Doctors and lawyers and things but lots of.

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Anybody tip you at that one.

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You probably get more tips at the dive bar right.

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No you know what it's it's it's so weird tip you it's a hundo.

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You know what I get some good tips up in Wisconsin actually but for some reason I made like like

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last night I played in Barrington which you would think is a nice rich neighborhood but

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you know I was in this place and it was all it was all guys you know and young guys and

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you know they all got that.

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Attitude well they got an attitude but they all look like they're homeless and destitute

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so nobody looks like they have money at all.

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It looks terrible yeah and it was mostly guys and I made a joke I said you know I'm really

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glad that there's only guys here tonight because the last time I played here.

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I accidentally got laid.

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Yeah women were hurting themselves trying to get to me you know I was standing around

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the other corner.

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I kept I kept like harassing the shit out of these guys and then at the end they were

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getting drunk and rowdy and they're shouting out all of these songs.

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Todd Rungren blah blah blah long train running doobie brothers and then this one guy.

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Did you know any of them?

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You know what Steely Dan I played a Steely Dan song but then you play the song that

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they want and then they don't even clap anyway so then they were you know they were getting

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now they're getting into it now the beers are kicking in.

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That's what they need.

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Yeah and I'm having a good time you know it's a collegiate vibe.

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The more you drink the better we sound.

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Yeah yeah yeah and it's a very collegiate vibe so then I'm you know they're yelling

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out you know 50 cent.

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Did you play 50 cent?

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Candy shut yeah I was playing such a wide variety you know and I was and I'm like you

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know what I like these are good suggestions except your suggestion I'm like what is it

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what are you talking about this guy is saying Texas by something blood and I'm like I don't

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like the sound of that I don't know what that is I'm like next time I come here I'm gonna

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get on everyone's suggestion except this guy I'm like I'm not doing it you know I was busting

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the kids balls we were laughing but no you know what and then I'm there and yeah you're

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bringing your gear in on the cart it's freezing out you gotta wind away to the side of this

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building where they have one of these elevators that yeah it's on the second floor and the

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elevator is literally like about the same dimension as this and it locks on the bottom

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yeah so you gotta pull in your cart stand in there and then hold the button yeah you gotta

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hold the button the whole time and it goes up like this it's going this slow yeah you're

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going up the side of an outside building it's a glass shaft you know you're like so you

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could see yeah and it's terrifying you're feeling like it's gonna like yeah and you

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gotta pull up on a little ramp but every time I go there that the thing is always locked

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and then they gotta like so I gotta run upstairs anyway tell the people to unlock and I'm always

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running late I gotta tell the people to unlock it they unlock it then it still doesn't work

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now you're messing with that for 10 minutes in the cold so then you you know you get up

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there and now the door on the other side is an opening it's just a it's a crazy experience

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and I pull my gear in and I'm setting up and but you know what all the time I'm doing this

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I'm like it still beats being in an office but still you know it's it's one of those

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things where now yeah because I save that money in the corporate life I'm able to live

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off the cash flow of just being a musician yeah I did the straight musician part first

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so that's why I have no money and now I'm too fucked up to sure get a job but yeah there's

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one time check this out everybody does everybody thinks one way is the answer and the other

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way is not the answer they're both bad yeah I did have jobs yeah yeah yeah but the one

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time we're on this fucking we're on tour in Europe and this elevator was so we've got

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this hotel hotel because sometimes the venue because part of the deal is they got to put

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you up somewhere sometimes they would have an apartment sometimes they'd want you to

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stay at the fucking venue oh man that's not horrible yeah sometimes they would have you

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know money if it was a rich place and I think we're like in Munich or something and this

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fucking hotel was sold and they had an elevator and we're like on the third or fourth floor

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which is like a very tall hotel where we were and not many rooms so I think it was a shared

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bathroom for each floor yeah it was fucking weird but shades of a hostel yeah the whole

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the elevator was so fucked one person had to get in first because it was so small or

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two skinny people so me and Franzi the girl went in we went up to the top and then Matt

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and I don't know maybe it was Steve put in the all the backpacks like we each got our

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fucking toiletries and shit and that came up so then we unload them when I get to the

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top and then they each came up one at a time and I'm like man this is fucking the most

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fucked up elevator and you know it would be faster building a staircase with a raw lumber

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yeah oh man one time we were we used to play at this place in the city yeah we used to

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play at this place in the city it had the most rickety elevator that usually they don't

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use the elevator well they wanted us to carry our shit up three flights and I remember the

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last time I played there I I said fuck it you know and I took my gear down in the elevator

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and then I'm loading up my car and I just got it all packed up yeah and I'm driving

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away and the guy come you broke at the fucking elevator you know I'm like see you later

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I like fuck it man get the fucking thing fit you're making enough money I mean yeah I it

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was like it was called it was on Clark Street it was called it was an Irish bar you remember

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when we were making those recordings with I maybe with Steve's preparing and we would

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pull in like we're playing at those big fucking nice studios down yeah and we pulled the van

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into the elevator remember that place where we took the van up to the second leg pulled

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the van into the thing so our van was in the fucking studio that was pretty fucking awesome

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I seemed to have a vague memory of that yeah with the with the unless they had 40 foot

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ceilings with those big things that were on those railings on top I wish I wasn't so smoked

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out all those days that I have so little memory of any yeah you know what the marijuana

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fucked you up fuck me up royal man and you know but I don't know if I would remember

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I don't know if I ever remember that anyway yeah I don't know well that stuck out to me

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that we're like wow this is really big time now that you're saying yeah fucking pulling

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our van into an elevator and we're jamming and you could look over 150 feet away our

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van is sitting in the same room with us it seems like it's like I should be able to remember

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something like that well you know what I forgot one time was we were playing at this place

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in Algern and I guess it was me Steve Fank and Jody Smith standing outside and some fucking

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drunk I walked into an open manhole and like died and it really or fucked himself up bad

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news ambulance and fire truck and sirens and they were going do you remember that I had

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to pretend that you did because it was such a big scene that I didn't remember and I'm

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like wow fucking my fucked up was I there at that yeah you must have been it was male

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strong you know remember when we would play those gigs yes those dumps and I just remember

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so ghetto yeah I remember Nick Coolman running that guy all the way across the room yeah

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with rage yeah he was running people across the room with rage all the time yeah yeah

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he still has a lot of rage does he yeah I talked to him from time to time I mean I I like

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the guy but yeah he's you know it is it's like when you get older you get to be bitter

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and you know angry about shit and I find you know what you got to just realize that you're

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nothing yeah like it says in the Bible and Mike Tyson said it on a thing he's like when

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when somebody was asking him I forgot what interviewer was you know how do you control

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all the rage or how do you not get mad when people taunt you and stuff when you're out

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and it's like because I realized that mm-hmm it doesn't matter because I'm nothing you're

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not only nothing but when you really realize that wow I'm alive I've got my health I'm

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breathing yeah there's no need to get mad because yeah I used to you know I used to

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be a lot more hotheaded yeah but now that I've been like you know I was used to be in the

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richest guy in the room and this and that now that I'm humbled you know it's like people

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that I worked with never knew that I was a rocker and all the rock people never knew

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that I had a yeah so I love the fact that you know when I come into a place you know

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oh you know and I'm like they're like who are you I'm like I'm the band guy I say you

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know and I always say band guy even though I'm a solo guy because it's like all the connotations

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of that I'm like I don't care if you think I'm this that the other thing yeah so I just

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you know humble myself and people get crazy with me now and before I would have been so

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pushing guys but now I just I go with everything getting crazy so back okay Killian was still

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in the band catechronic back in the early days and we played live on some one of these

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pot youtube TV show that one of these guys had it was either G Bay or JB something like

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that one of those guys and so we played and we're getting all these comments you know

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because there's a lot of people watching and there was all these really good comments and

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you guys are great blah blah blah and then there was this one guy starts commenting this

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sounds like the kind of music that I that someone would listen to in their little red

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sports car going over to their boyfriend's house to get fucked in the ass you know so

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he starts commentating that we're faggots you know and yeah and me and Tony and Bobby

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were fucking laughing our asses off and I'm like we can't even show this to Steve because

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he will start a war with this guy yes he's one of those guys you know with about four

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more comments sure sure like you know you guys are you suck you know sure sure and it was

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funny and but Killian would have fucking been pissed yeah you know it's funny even told

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him because he really would have wanted he would have been really wanting to kill someone

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that night yeah man you know what it's like and he's always getting kicked off of Facebook

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and stuff and yeah yeah he's raging you know and that's the thing you know it's like people

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are practicing rage more and more on these social platforms but really when you get people

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doing something like that hating on you that's a sure sign you've made it and yeah really

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you know it's good anyway because I don't know if it's good but like I like to be those

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girls man all those girls loved them but there was still an equal amount of people that wanted

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to fucking kill them yeah yeah well you know everybody can't like yeah I posted I've been

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posting regularly on YouTube yeah you just gotta get behind whatever it is right once

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you reframe the the thing it's like it's okay but still and all I posted a video the other

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day we don't kill each other yeah I posted a video the other day got like almost no views

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initially but one guy gets on there and he's going on this four comment rant oh yeah it's

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like doesn't even make sense it's like he's drunk and really that kind of screws up the

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algorithm though when you see all this just negative stuff you know and I actually reported

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it as harassment you know yeah and then I hid the guy from the channel because I'm like

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you know what and then I learned that I could actually filter out certain comment on your

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channel on the YouTube channel yeah so I went in and I put in a bunch of keywords that will

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automatically block the comment and even if someone's posting like a URL of their own shit

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I don't let people post URLs of their own shit I'm like you know what even though it

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doesn't matter even though I don't really respond to the negative comments directly it's like

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ah maybe I could filter some of this noise out because yeah the algorithm will say like

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oh there's a lot of negative shit going on here this isn't good you know so we'll still

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fuck you up a little bit. Well it could be you know. We thrive on negative comments.

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Our main comments are mostly people correcting us. So you should have no end of the comments.

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The comments are good you know but you know what and it's like well that's the whole thing

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anyway you know like it's you see people online getting enraged about everything it's like

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it's perfect they actually they rage as if their rage is justified no your rage is never

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really justified yeah you just you're just a rageaholic in search of a reason to be raging

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and if you are you know there's a never ending supply of rage of reasons to be raging about

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yeah on on Facebook and Twitter. Well here's the other thing though that's that's pussy

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shit anyway. Oh yeah they're gonna rage to your face that's a whole nother scenario.

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Exactly now someone raging to your face then you want to sidestep that person. Exactly.

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Yeah yeah but you know what else you know is my theory is is no grown man unless they're

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you know trying to market some business from a grassroots level no grown man should be

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expounding on any social platform. Hell no. If I wasn't trying to grassroots market my

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own endeavors you would never see me on any social platform I don't have the need to

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right espouse my political views I don't have the need to show what I've had for dinner

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but you know you're trying to comment on it. Yeah because here's the thing I mean you're

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having fun with this but you know but really if you weren't doing this you wouldn't be

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on you're not fucking with face you know. I've never fucking typed one sentence. Exactly

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what grown man fucks around with Facebook. And that's even the hard thing about like

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the band and stuff I don't even I have three Facebook accounts that three different manager

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type people in my life through three different bands have said you gotta get on Facebook

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what do you mean you're not on Facebook. That's why I got on Facebook. So then I get

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on there. Is it on Facebook is it on Facebook. I'm like these alright I'll put it on Facebook.

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I don't even bother going on there at all I got Instagram I really very minimally advertised

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my band I feel like a fucking ass it's almost it's it's cringy it's cringe mountain. Nobody

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cares nobody cares here's the other thing you know what I wrestle with this all the time

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being on Facebook or any kind doing anything for your band on socials is I call it climbing

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cringe mountain you know you you have to climb the mountain yeah but here's the thing that

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I realized is that when I'm getting a bad response that's good when I'm getting no response

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that's also good there's so many people that are lurking Mary's getting the phone call

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from her sister it's bad you know there's so many lurkers that are just watching you

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and it's like my thing is like hey I'm out here just trying to you know I'm not talking

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nonsense I'm not espousing my views I'm just out here making mention of something that

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I'm doing and the other thing that I never do is invite or cajole or say oh you know

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I go and see your band why I never do that I just say here's where I am it's informational

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only I never invite I never show any kind of you know because I know it's like this

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is all bullshit I I'm doing this little solo career so I have to do the grassroots marketing

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but if I'm doing it I want to be as as least cringy as I possibly can like this like this

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punk rock tacos thing I go to fucking a hundred percent probably Facebook sure promoted and

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you know they get hundreds of kids there and it's like okay that's pretty wild you know

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they can get a hundred kids there almost every that's awesome man yeah it's like big that's

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all from just the computer so nobody knows they know who I am now but at the beginning

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no one knew who I was because I never posted I never got on there because they're all getting

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on there saying hey blah blah blah yeah and so mm-hmm I never did that and mm-hmm it's

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weird but I do like doing this yeah it's fucking funny and you know I think it's funny when

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I come in mom's house or like you know Christmas or whatever Easter mom's birthday everybody's

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watching it already yeah no you know what I've watched a lot of episodes and you know I've

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laughed with you guys I've laughed at you guys but you know one and it's like at least it's

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a little bit real too whereas maybe maybe you know maybe it's coming off a little harsh

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sometimes but we're in this homogenized yeah YouTube world where everybody so make sure

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you like and subscribe and they're all trying to be this cutesy thing and I never say that

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but like right now I don't say it yeah like and subscribe but mostly what I just say is

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tell your friends and you know mm-hmm or even tell mostly you should tell your enemies yeah

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you think someone's an asshole or something you should tell them about yeah but you know

459
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I'm kidding you know but whatever whatever it is here's like any creative endeavor do

460
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:12,480
it not because you're gonna succeed or fail but just do it because you know you want to

461
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:19,000
do it yeah exactly to be creative and to and to have fun like oh I'm doing this original

462
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,080
band and nobody's tipping me out and yet they're going to see cover bands I see guys whining

463
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:30,240
like this on line really yeah and I'm like dude if your band is good you'll get somewhere

464
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,680
if it's not you know do you ever hear a restaurant say well you're not coming and supporting me

465
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:41,680
we're selling raviolis if your raviolis are good they'll be fucking if they're not they're

466
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:47,840
not good so quit whining about it that's the climate of the day yeah whiners well that

467
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:55,080
too but also that people unless you're at a specific venue mm-hmm like punk rock tacos

468
00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:04,640
or you know some place in the city that's specific and people want to hear originals

469
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:10,040
every other fucking single place in the suburbs and most of the outskirts they just want to

470
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:17,200
hear the familiar shit that's it and sing along and and yeah want to use their brain

471
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,400
they don't want to be fucked up they want to drink yeah here's something they already

472
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:27,040
know yeah absolutely yeah that's the problem and so these guys that complain about the

473
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:34,840
thing if you're playing in your original band and that's the that's where you're coming

474
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,840
from then you're playing at the wrong venue because there is a place probably that the

475
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,640
guy won't share only 12 people show up and he digs the music and then you'll build something

476
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,720
up you know that's how that works oh yeah and you know what would happen when we would

477
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,880
go on tour man every time it was more and more people you know it's like fuck this is

478
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:59,680
awesome but yeah we would expect that in the very first fucking time out we would have

479
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:05,840
said oh this sucks I'm fucking right on my guitar it's it's any artistic thing if you're

480
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:11,600
gonna even get there as a slow grind and you know did Picasso make paintings because or

481
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:19,040
van Gogh you know he died he died during lifetime no right Picasso was but van Gogh you know

482
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,880
he was commissioned to do big yeah sculptures and Michelangelo is famous yeah he would take

483
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,520
commissions and then not even do the work because something else would come up yeah or

484
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,600
you'd have a bunch of apprentices roughing out getting them close to where he could come

485
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:41,360
in and fine tune yeah he had a he had a he had a studio going with and with employees

486
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:48,360
Andy Warhol there was another guy that painted these massive dimensional oil paintings and

487
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:54,600
he was very prolific and he also had guys you know prepping and starting the canvas

488
00:34:54,600 --> 00:35:02,200
off and he would you know you know it depends but the bottom line is is like van Gogh he

489
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,840
died penniless and without any fame but he was gonna do that no matter what this was

490
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,480
what he did you know what I mean or even Charles Bukowski the famous poet and author you know

491
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,240
this guy they're not saying I'm gonna do this to be the most famous writer in the world

492
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:23,480
exactly when they start out eggs I like I write a bunch of songs that nobody gives a fuck

493
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,600
about but it's like am I by the way I'll do some shameless thought I'll do some shameless

494
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:34,960
advertising through your nicks got a new album out it's called yellow means go yeah referring

495
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:40,240
to you know yellow the color and go step on the gas get the fuck out of you know like

496
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:44,840
too many people slowing down at the yellow light you should just punch it right through

497
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:53,040
or even figuratively if you're not getting a hard no you know keep going baby yeah yeah

498
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:59,160
it's a real good album it's some fucking good rock and roll but yeah this is an age of like

499
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:08,520
where you know people are so inauthentic in a way you know what I mean and it's hard to

500
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:15,720
be authentic it's hard to be authentic is so old and so quickly yeah yeah so really you

501
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:23,000
just gotta be about your business and my theory is is if not every club wants me great if

502
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:29,520
not everybody's heard of me great if not everybody has come and seen me that's good because that

503
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:37,160
means there's still somewhere for me to grow up yeah exactly like you know I I love it people

504
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,480
you know see me all the time I never heard of you I've never heard of you I'm never I'm

505
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,560
like why should you have heard of me you know like I'm just the guy out here and I don't

506
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:53,560
want to be the most popular anyway I just want to have a band yeah but that's pretty cool too I

507
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:59,400
just want to have gigs and be booked you know I'm in this band now we're called choke on it and

508
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:09,480
nice and is this your lumbard guys yeah yeah and you came up with the name obviously and they

509
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,400
said we'll go with it well yeah it was kind of a fight to get that but they didn't want that it

510
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:21,120
was good but you know what we're some of the other things it's funny I can't get into it but we're

511
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:29,520
just trying to get together a half hour to play at this punk rock tacos yeah playing on February

512
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:37,560
21st we practiced yesterday man they want to practice tomorrow but we were sounding pretty good

513
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:44,600
yeah I'm kind of excited and you play guitar yeah so the other some of the other bands would because

514
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,640
a killian we're gonna be called the killbillies oh that's a good one but of course there is a

515
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,960
band called the killbillies yeah yeah it's too good to not be taken yeah and what was the other

516
00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,480
one he came up with and I'm like again that's too ah let me think of it and I'm like again that's

517
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,840
probably taking he's like no way and I'm like dude it's too good there's so many fucking bands

518
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:12,920
now that if you come up with the magic like it's amazing no one was called catechronic mm-hmm that's

519
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:19,840
a good one yeah mm-hmm but you know like bands like the jam they're in it really early mm-hmm there's

520
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:27,680
no way you can call that all those really good simple ones yeah gone mm-hmm you know you got the

521
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:38,480
who and then they had them and then what are you gonna be yeah yeah yeah hey what mm-hmm yeah that's

522
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:44,600
cool man so you guys are playing at the punk yeah taco play when is your gig February 21st

523
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:51,200
it's a Friday oh it's a Friday show you have to do the Larry Neal show on another night you'll be

524
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:57,640
preempted are you gonna do another show tonight with the nice is Kiki and Mike kind of yeah

525
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:05,520
nice nice yeah no I I wrestle with that a lot you know it's like but really I just look at it as

526
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:14,960
head this is what's been put in front of me you know to do this is my job I go at it yeah you

527
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:20,720
like through as my mantra yeah you know I some days it feels lonely and you know but I'm like ah

528
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:26,200
it's no more lonely than working in the corporate setting you know and you're always having to

529
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:33,280
be in a band yeah because here's the thing I would be on tour I'd be in these beautiful places and

530
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:39,960
I think man I wish I was here with someone I liked mm-hmm right I wish my wife was here

531
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:47,280
or someone else but now they were assholes and I'm with right now so a lot of time I would be off I'd

532
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:54,320
either be looking for drugs or trying to chat up some check or whatever and ignoring those guys and

533
00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:00,320
you know you spend a lot of time with them in the van I got my god back on drugs because I was

534
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:07,820
spending too much time along with people I don't know I was in the no not that they were on drugs

535
00:40:07,820 --> 00:40:15,440
I was spending time with you're talking about Gary no no I no I was straight with my whole tenure

536
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:21,880
with them but I was running the band and I made my own decisions no when I was in the corporate

537
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:30,440
world and you know did that a couple years with the other band you needed something online yeah I

538
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:36,640
was I was with I had the game face on in the corporate world then I was with these guys who

539
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:42,320
really weren't my friends it turned out and I was like it was like a hug and it was a hug in a

540
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:51,720
hugless world so I fell back into that bad habit you know but now I now I just want to raw dog it I

541
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:57,840
call it raw dog and you like you got a raw dog it don't yeah yeah and you know what and like I

542
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:05,240
think like you know it is life you know if you don't do anything if you're not eating for fun if

543
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:14,040
you're not drinking smoking getting high doing anything right is life boring yes life is not

544
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:21,880
supposed to be so exactly but that's another that's another fundamental tenant of American society is

545
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:28,960
that I need to be constantly I need back to the if I'm not eating drinking smoking getting high

546
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:34,120
then I need to be doing something on the phone you know I need to be playing a game how about

547
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:40,360
just being bored because really the the that's where the creativity comes from you got it man you

548
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:48,120
read my mind that's exact when you are bored that's where inspiration lies in the boredom and you

549
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,240
know it man thinking of a song or painting a picture while you're scrolling you can't you're

550
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:58,480
right and you can't even begin to let your mind wander and dream about what you want to do next

551
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:04,880
unless you're fucking bored you know you know the people would be like well what are you doing

552
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:10,360
you're daydreaming I'm like yeah cuz daydreaming is important you know it gets mad when I show

553
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:17,440
this because I'm autistic but this is this is the painting that I show all the time of Trudeau

554
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:25,040
now he's retiring or quitting or whatever but Nick painted that right when I was daydreaming

555
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:31,920
my birthday mm-hmm I'm looking at this guy and you know and then all of a sudden you know I'm

556
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:37,480
just sitting there bored and I'm like oh god he would look perfect with a little Hitler mustache

557
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:43,280
and look at that now you got that beautiful piece right there yeah no I was in lieu of a birthday

558
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:48,000
present he wrote on the back of that it's like my birthday card but you know happy birthday

559
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:59,160
mm-hmm this card is your present yeah that's and that's what that's what's fun you know like

560
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:06,000
I've got some small watercolor sheets now to paint the hand cards and stuff like that like

561
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,920
for Christmas and stuff but no you know getting to that you know exactly like now instead of

562
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:21,160
doing something where I'm entertained I'll force myself to do something creative and not that it's

563
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:27,600
like gonna result in something a masterpiece right but I find the more I flex that muscle the more

564
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:33,640
the ideas come and better the chance of getting the master yeah just start whether you feel like

565
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:39,880
you want to or whatever it's like nothing else to do a lot of songs before he hit behind blue

566
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:47,600
eyes exactly you know I had someone asking me the other day they're like oh but you know I was

567
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,400
showing them some of the outlines for some of the video ideas I have coming up because I've been

568
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,280
posting a little more religiously just doing like you're done yeah I'm getting inspired from what

569
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:03,720
you're doing I saw your last video the little thing talking to the people about how to succeed in

570
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:11,320
yeah yeah right you know and so each like 10 minutes or I think I'm doing 15 minutes but but

571
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:17,040
each one it's like I'm like I I totally didn't do that right with the lighting I had the sound

572
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:23,440
jacked up I did this wrong but even doing like three and quick succession I'm like learning

573
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,360
learning learning yeah but you know what else though that looks pretty professional I saw you

574
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:36,200
had your little magnetic yes yes that's and you're using your it's a gimbal yeah it's a DJI

575
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:44,560
eyes fucking nice yeah so here's the story with the camera I brought it to a gig and I'm raging up

576
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:52,160
it's following me I got it set in back of this table this is on a Sunday and everybody's it's

577
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:58,880
it's set up on a stand you shouldn't run directly into it and this guy ran directly into it runs

578
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,360
the run and it was a guy that I didn't like the look of even from the very from the jump

579
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:13,520
street you know one of these guys and I shouldn't stereotype but you know something to do it right

580
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:19,880
in unfortunately but it's something to do it like you know everyone wears ball caps nowadays but

581
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,280
just this guy and he's looking at me like I'm a dumb ass you know and I'm looking at him like

582
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:32,320
and sure enough the guy plows into my stand the bike pops out because I have it in a in a clip

583
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:40,960
hits the ground breaks the breaks the camera yeah so I never buy the protection package usually

584
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,800
but I did in this instance so I called up the next day I'm getting a new one sent to me for

585
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:54,480
$35 only so but in the meantime I was so distraught I bought another one you know I'm like these

586
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,480
things are too fucking fragile so now I got two of these well here's the thing I'm gonna use them

587
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,400
really really think about where you're gonna place that motherfucker well here's yeah what no I need

588
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,680
to use gaffers tape and tape it into the clip you know that way if they hit the stand and even if

589
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:16,240
the rocks the stand might not go down the guy didn't knock the stand over thing fell yeah he

590
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:22,360
bumped the heated so how mindless and this is this is what gets frustrating is is I don't even

591
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:30,240
mind I don't mind a lot of things I don't mind people being mindless I don't mind either I don't

592
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:35,640
mind going to somewhere and actually having everybody in the place ignore me because of the way I

593
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:41,960
look at it I'm a background character in the story of their life and they're a background character

594
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:48,920
in the story of my life I don't need to interact with you get exactly I'm gonna play stay in the

595
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,840
background though don't knock my shit over there's gonna be kids right up in the front they're gonna

596
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:59,720
be mashing they're gonna be fucking going crazy probably people jumping up on the stage nice you

597
00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:06,360
know I love it you know it's gonna be out fucking yeah that's cool too ready for that I don't mind

598
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:12,160
getting rowdy either you know and guys interact with me and sometimes a guy'll touch my base and

599
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:18,120
you know do whatever a little forward really I and I and you know what I do now I just look at

600
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:24,760
them and then I make a comment and I just say you know this isn't TV you know we you know I'm a real

601
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:31,360
person this is reality you know I just I have some fun with it but no you know what I don't mind

602
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:38,200
people yelling things out I don't mind getting rowdy just don't knock my camera yeah back to the

603
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:44,400
camera these other extra microphones yes are they workable on another yes it worked perfectly

604
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:51,840
yeah do you think we could use them for this I have a transmitter so yes we could you know there's

605
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:58,880
a dongle and so the audio would be amazing yeah so here's the thing I don't know what you got going

606
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:04,760
here well we plug it into the board and and then right and then that sound card runs into where here

607
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:12,480
the computer got yeah so you know what we can do is instead of you know this dongle that's going

608
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:19,040
into the computer with a USB you would just plug the transmitter for the little microphones into

609
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:27,000
the into that thing exactly and then theoretically it would transmit to that and then that would

610
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,720
transmit into here and I think you'd have to select it as a sound source and yeah these sources

611
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:39,120
here so you'd only be an audio input source you couldn't combine them with another set depending

612
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:45,000
on how many you know put them through the board but you got multiple USB on there so maybe you

613
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:51,040
could select multiple sound sources so one of them would be that transmitter would be the focus

614
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:56,760
right right and one of them would be the transmitter that I have with the two mics I don't know if

615
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:02,720
you could pick two things but yeah you know that would be a little technical challenge but we could

616
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:09,000
look into that but yeah I like those mics and then you know what's cool is that they are fucking nice

617
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:15,720
oh yeah and I do my editing and okay so now could you run with the camera could you run more than

618
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:25,000
two mics with the transmitter it's only two mics per transmitter I believe so yeah but you know

619
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,200
and I'm doing some bass instructional videos now so what I'll do is and this there's got to be a

620
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:36,480
better way to do this as well but I want the you know so I'm playing along to like tracks and I want

621
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:45,000
that to be pristine so I'll record with this and I will record the audio of me playing into reason

622
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:52,680
you know I do a little clap to sync up the audio and then in Premiere Pro I just line those up

623
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:58,560
your shit is perfect yeah so my voice and your voice exactly so you'll see that on an upcoming

624
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:05,880
video that you know I'm having music come through but I'm also just talking into this and yeah

625
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:14,160
so needles and kinky well kinky might realize not needles realizes but mm-hmm it's a lot of work

626
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:22,000
being the producer running all the shit it really is and so that's most is most fucking shows like

627
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:31,120
this had the guy some computer geek off in a you know he's working his ass off and change in

628
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:36,600
camera angles for you once in a while like we've been on this static angle you know what

629
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:44,400
I like well this is a good angle for this particular episode because it's just you and I it

630
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:50,200
doesn't really need to be in and much as much as a widescreen plus people know then what you look

631
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:57,760
like a little bit sometimes on the other show you know I know it's like switch to the wide angle

632
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:05,600
but no it and it's fun to just it's fun to just do something instead of scroll on your fucking

633
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:13,560
phone you know and and have an unscripted real conversations that aren't you know so predetermined

634
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:18,520
you know there's not enough of this kind of thing in life when you think about it everybody

635
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:24,000
nowadays oh okay so we're gonna get together for you okay when does it start when does it

636
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,960
end how about just coming and letting it start and end whenever you know what I mean how about

637
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:37,040
just doing something that's not scheduled down to the last minute you know and that's it so

638
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:43,760
people have to do that though because nobody you know everybody's appears feels like they're

639
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:51,320
just so busy all the time and you know busy doing what I mean not much you know some people are

640
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:57,680
doing shit though people are over scheduled and yeah I mean like I just wound up here because my

641
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:04,600
tooth right so I'm going I'm at this gig I have an implant here and I'm chewing a piece of fucking

642
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:11,400
gum and my tooth comes out right seconds before I got to start playing and I'm just like motherfucker

643
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:17,000
so even like that so like the last gig I did where it's going great people are going apeshit the guy

644
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:26,920
knocks the fucking camera down now I'm fighting not being pissed off tonight I'm in there so I was

645
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:33,280
in Barrington let Port Barrington at Broken Or last night and tonight I'm in Barrington as well

646
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:40,080
at Maretti's you know nice yeah which is a big-ass place it used to be good food they do they do

647
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:47,640
and you know what and exactly like I don't mind anything you know it'll be freezing and they got

648
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:54,720
it's this long a handicap ramp which is real steep incline I got to drag my shit up in there but I

649
00:52:54,720 --> 00:53:03,680
saw I was in Maretti's with Sherry Mary and of course in Virginia and there was a guy that

650
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:11,520
started playing yeah piano wow and like a keyboard he had right yeah he's playing some similar songs

651
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:17,040
to what you do and stuff and he's playing you know a lot of shit that I would play too nice and I'm

652
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:23,000
thinking and this was a while back mm-hmm and I'm thinking man I'm better than this motherfucker right

653
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:28,400
here and both Mary and Sherry agreed sure absolutely you are and I'm like this guy's getting a gig

654
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,840
at Maretti's and he's only this fucking good on the piano well yeah you know one my mind man

655
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:40,280
and people didn't seem to again nobody seemed to notice I was probably the only guy yeah noticing

656
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:45,680
they're like he was substituting his own chords here in there and they're quite playing things

657
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:51,680
right that would drive me when I was drives me fucking same same when I was in a band yeah

658
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:58,880
when I was in a band that was the biggest drag is that it was like it's like we'll learn the actual

659
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:04,080
chords you know I'm like that we were just doing that sounds good you know and then they would

660
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:09,040
make instead of going back and relearning it the right way they would make me change what I was

661
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:14,000
playing to match what they're doing I'm like let's just do it like the record first and then if you

662
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:20,080
want to change it because it makes sense then change it don't start off changing it just because

663
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:27,920
you can't hear what the actual chords are yeah I'm a I'm a stickler for that yeah but no but you

664
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:33,440
know what and you're saying that and it's like I'm thinking well yeah the pool of people that they

665
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:39,760
have to choose from I mean they booked these they have a they have a large chain and I've been playing

666
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:46,160
a like mostly all of them but now I'm so booked up in advance that I'm not going to have many

667
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:53,920
dates available for them unfortunately and so you'll see me drop out of the mix a little bit

668
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:59,600
and at least in the summer months and then they'll have to put in some other guys that who are you

669
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:04,960
know maybe not as booked as I am you know because they might not do they might not have it all

670
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:11,840
together you know if they booked this same fucking guy hopefully yeah I mean that's why I think you

671
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:18,240
should like if you want to gig hard you know just for the fun of it I think if you got your

672
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:24,000
shit together I think you'd be getting the gigs you know what I mean and you know but

673
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,560
you know you like working the band thing and the band thing is fun yeah you'll have to see my new

674
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:37,360
video that just dropped like all those demos the five pros and cons of being a band mate versus being

675
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:44,160
solo and why I'm now team solo yeah yeah but here's the thing about the band too okay yeah Tony and

676
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:50,400
Bobby aren't perfect right but they're cool oh that's fine yeah guys that stay in their lane that's a

677
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:56,800
good thing but also um the demos I made with the drum machine with me playing the bass and doing all

678
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:02,240
the overdubs and show those guys you know remember the first demos I sent you of those three songs

679
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:10,560
I like them recorded them but even though the sound quality might be a little less on the band

680
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:16,800
one just because of the volume we play at the vibe it's still better yeah I was noticing better even

681
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,840
though it's not perfect well I was noticing that we're gonna redo them so they swing more yeah well

682
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:28,880
I was noticing that so you can do you know two things you could bring the band recording up to

683
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:36,320
snuff audio wise but you can also learn how to like me you know like when I'm playing my electric

684
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:42,640
kit and then I have this uh I don't know if you have reason drums you know that that might not be

685
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:49,520
a module that you have so they have this thing where it's like you know once you map the MIDI when

686
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:56,160
you play it on the kit they have these rooms they have room mics they have overheads yeah

687
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:02,400
dude you could choose from all these different snares open bottom mic top and bottom this and that

688
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:08,320
I mean adding distortion by the time you're done with it it's like man I got a real drum sound

689
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:14,960
so quickly and easily wow yeah and that's why I'm like yeah this isn't a real band but at the same

690
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:21,280
time the hassle is so less. Now we play with the Jamet Ryan's house, Ryan the kid that's in my band

691
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:27,280
who who by the way gave me graciously that guitar this guitar is awesome. I gave him a pv amp

692
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:32,960
T.S. Scho and uh it needs some repair

693
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:40,080
you know I was like shit I'll fucking fix that thing up because those drums I have on that

694
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:45,840
yellow means go sound sufficiently shitty. But just kid Jason his roommate has and we jammed at

695
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:59,520
his house a couple times once maybe uh the kid has uh the V drums yes yes the V drums yeah I had

696
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:04,640
riches V drums for a long time it's pretty cool they're they're fine you know what I mean it's

697
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:12,560
like the V drum sounds now probably are improved but I'm telling you all old yeah it might be old

698
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:17,920
but all you need to do is capture the MIDI performance and then like I dirty it up to the

699
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,600
point where it's like those drums sound like shit again but yet they sound good. We use them

700
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:27,200
practice no like we we practice in the in his bass so they're great for that and you're not at an

701
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:32,480
excruciating volume. We're still at an excruciating volume they got that shit going through a fucking

702
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:37,840
huge car and PA that looks like we would have had when we were kids. Yeah yeah old school shit yeah

703
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:46,800
yeah but no but yeah the speed of working with MIDI and you know recording in the box and you

704
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:54,640
know every metal album you hear nowadays with the blast beats. All MIDI sounds. It's all replaced

705
00:58:54,640 --> 00:59:00,320
anyway it's all quantized it's all replaced. It's not only. None of it is real if you're making a

706
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:06,880
real studio. Do you remember Nick would have Nick Coleman would have triggers two bass drums

707
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,600
and would have to get the sounds to match. Jeff was always trying to get them to be similar.

708
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:17,840
That's a thing of the past man. I mean now they got the double pedal. None of these metal guys

709
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:24,480
making an album nowadays. I mean the amps are simulated the drums are simulated. That's the

710
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:30,560
best thing about catechronic. Nothing simulated. Everything's locked to a grid the vocals are

711
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:40,480
auto tuned the fucking harmonies are generated. I mean so it just depends on how you know

712
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:46,880
catechronic is off the fucking grid. Even recording you know to reel to reel and those are all

713
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:52,880
things of the past you know. But it's great because what it's done is it's democratized the

714
00:59:52,880 --> 01:00:00,320
production of music to where you know like my yellow means go right now. Yeah I mean I got like

715
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:06,400
something like forty something thousand fifty thousand streams on that album. Damn yeah that's

716
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:12,400
awesome and you know and you know what I didn't have to spend a dime to make it and I released it

717
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:17,680
for forty nine dollars well it would have been nothing but I wanted to leave a legacy you know

718
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:27,040
so I mean so what it cost me forty nine dollars to release it but now what I'm doing my you know

719
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:36,240
what I did I made a I made a playlist it's called Raw and Rowdy Garage Rock Essentials and I just

720
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:44,400
have that album all my hardest songs I have Stooges I want to be your dog then Double-Minded

721
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:52,000
Woman from my album then something by some the what is that the the cramps you know and then I have

722
01:00:52,000 --> 01:01:00,720
so I have all these I put together a playlist that's loaded with my songs as well as Garage Rock

723
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:07,040
Classics. Yeah and then I'm spending five dollars a day on Facebook and Instagram ads which are

724
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:13,760
it's like I don't I don't even look at it it's just got the cover of my yellow means go and it's

725
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:23,600
linked specifically to Double-Minded Woman and I let the AI algorithm figure out who my best

726
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:30,160
audience is and they figured it out and listening to the music and looking at everything you know

727
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:36,800
who they've come up with people that are into psychedelics astral projection and all this crazy

728
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:42,800
shit that I would have never got and these people are listening to the shit out of this thing and

729
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:48,560
well I'll tell you what man and you know what and five dollars a day so if you believe in an album

730
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:53,920
and you have to wear with all to spend five dollars a day you could get people listening to your

731
01:01:53,920 --> 01:02:01,680
shit now the the kicker on this is if this playlist begins to gain traction I could become a

732
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:09,280
playlist curator and then go on sites like Submit Hub and things like that and have people pay me

733
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:15,920
to come up and play to listen to their song to go oh do I want this on my playlist which is now

734
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:22,960
gain traction so now I could make the money in order to fund the advertising budget and have

735
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:28,480
the thing be a self-perpetuating wheel of advertising I should be my manager well I'm

736
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,720
giving it to you this is the secret right here man I need someone to do everything but you don't

737
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:38,880
you know you got to do it baby you got to do this shit this is how you do it so that's so

738
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:45,200
the fact that the fact that I don't need to go to a studio I don't need to go to a record label I

739
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:51,520
don't need to I don't need to beg anyone you guys can't see on tv here but this is quite a fucking

740
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:57,200
studio that we're in too yes it is it is it's tremendous you only get to see little corners

741
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:03,680
of it here and there yeah yeah but no but you know what I place is amazing I've been all brought to

742
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:16,000
us by Tom's free clinic automotive and veterinary services oh no I I want you to go you know further

743
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:22,560
into the box you know like the drums I am I'm gonna start doing a lot more go into the box as a

744
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:28,400
matter of fact you can record him and still quantize the live performance if you need to

745
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:34,960
whatever you need to do you know but this man we I all those drum beats I made were not obviously

746
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:41,040
I made all of those and did he learn those beats I didn't even show him I just wanted to see what

747
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:46,960
he did first I showed Robert yeah so he would know what was going on it's more important yeah

748
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:53,360
and does that he copped the bass lines that you wrote maybe not really yeah I don't know he doesn't

749
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:59,600
fucking seem to pay attention that much yeah no he he's he's it sounds good whatever they did I

750
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:05,200
think he did cop the bass I like both versions and I do like the looseness of the live version

751
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:12,640
but at the same time yeah you know and we can mix that live version yeah we're gonna record all three

752
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,960
of those songs and actually there's a fourth song that I didn't send you that Robert wrote called

753
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:23,360
me the people it's fucking really good and I played bass and he played guitar yeah yeah that's so

754
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:30,320
fun you know I mean yeah no I mean I'm listening to some groups now man like this cosmic collective

755
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:39,920
and uh South Hill experiment it's like just so raw and but yet jazzy it's the new jazz you know JD

756
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:47,200
back and domey you know this kid he's a monster on the drums you know and you just listen to

757
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,440
their stuff and you're like and they're and you know what and they're young kids the kids like 18

758
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:56,560
they're jamming with people like Herbie Hancock want to be like playing with them and stuff and

759
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:03,840
the guy Lewis Cole that I saw yeah I mean you saw him you know he's like I mean he's a machine you

760
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:09,920
know yeah laying they're laying down there's some groove machines out there yeah and he's playing with

761
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:16,160
mono neon and shit you know that guy can't miss you know but you know what's funny about mono neon

762
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:23,920
like well he doesn't have the commercial appeal he does not he's so he's so he's so he's so good but

763
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:29,680
yet when I click on his shit on Spotify and I don't listen to it I don't like listening to it you know

764
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:35,840
but now Lewis Cole when I click on his shit I'm like this is like sounds amazing but with my neon

765
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:41,840
when he's playing with someone else he's awesome yeah like when it's some other band and he's sitting

766
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:47,840
in he is fucking killer he's the guy you want on bass when he does his own shit he's fucking too

767
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:54,560
crazy to fucking reign it in he's more worried about how crazy the vocals are yes it's it's you know

768
01:05:54,560 --> 01:06:00,000
what he's letting a little pretension slide into the mix you know about that little fucking chicken

769
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:06,800
wing necklace he had I sent you that clip right yeah but you know what and this is where he's drawing

770
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:13,520
inspiration from now and and here's my theory is that he's a tremendous introvert yeah but he knows

771
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:20,320
that he has to be this extrovert in order to do it so he's like just running into it like crazy

772
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:25,280
walking if it wasn't a five string I would have bought one dude just because of how it looks they're

773
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:30,960
like 15 hundo man I would have bought one yeah they're nice they're nice I mean you know what I

774
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:37,360
got the fretless now and I love it I might have to get a five my direct sound get an Ibanez five man

775
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:45,760
my direct sound with the uh using the Mustang the fender I love it or Robert's champ yes no buzz

776
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:52,320
man I think that was your bass remember we recorded that track on the direct channel dude even my

777
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:58,960
even my top end like four thousand dollar bass has buzz and shit when I turn up enough high end yeah

778
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:08,320
yeah it's a piece of shit you know I did this uh last video with my jaguar um short scale uh

779
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:13,520
that strings are totally dead but you know I eq'd it to do make it sound pretty good but I'm thinking

780
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:19,520
of getting some uh some noise canceling pickups in there because I like that little bass yeah

781
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:25,520
and it's fun to play about those little fuckers we have I love this bass so we have a jag here but

782
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:32,080
it's fully it's full length I'm not yeah that one I'm not as fond of but I love this Mustang man

783
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:38,960
that is like I want that thing man like so bad yeah that is a nice one yeah I'm getting sick of my

784
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:46,960
bass I had to do a truss rod adjustment on the fretless actually it was buzzing out on top

785
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:54,640
a lot yeah so I'm looking on a fretless yeah so I gotta do it a little bit more but um okay but

786
01:07:54,640 --> 01:08:01,280
yeah so that's why I was in in the neighborhood today is this tooth yeah they were putting it back

787
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:08,880
in the guy so here's what happened to me fuck man we're in fucking we were in somewhere I we're in

788
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:16,080
on tour we're gonna be gone for a month we're in Europe in Germany something like that proud it was

789
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:24,480
mostly Germany my tooth comes out on the second day one of my back teeth for a chocolate reason

790
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:32,400
oh and so it broke in half so I took the broken in half piece and I placed it back into the empty

791
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:38,400
socket and when I got back home my dentist told me that was a great idea oh really yeah and I didn't

792
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:44,240
even really hurt my tooth is already fucking rotten you know yeah well that's my mom and dad calling

793
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:49,680
all right well I guess this is a good time to sign off yeah it could be a natural breaking point hey

794
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:57,440
Larry and needles show wow my day I wish needles could have been here for this episode in Kiki I do

795
01:08:57,440 --> 01:09:03,840
I do and I don't you know it's hard to it's hard to get a word in edge wise with Mike sometimes

796
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:10,480
he's a non-stop machine yes and again I gotta thank Tom Street Clinic Automotive and uh

797
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:20,480
uh veterinarian services for keeping us going and thank you for tuning in