Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, dogs, cats, robots, and everybody in between, especially you attendees of the AI Core Conference in Las Vegas.
This is HT.
Hey, how to talk to AI.
I am your host, Symplemind West, West is in the back.
And as always, I am joined by the gregarious, the grateful, the gleeful, the gusty hear-saw, Ms. GoToGo.
Gee, how are you this?
I am fantastic.
And I can tell to everybody right now that you memorized words.
This is no child's repeateer anymore.
I am learning G words.
This is true.
Instead of me how I am, how are you?
You are in a conference shaking hands left and right.
This is very true.
I just met the head of AI at Bayer Pharmaceuticals, we connected and they saw me with the camera equipment.
They're like, you're a photographer?
I'm like, among other things.
I could be.
So I would like to report that while the humble West Symplemind is maybe known in some circles, I've seen, as I mentioned, the great, the gregarious, the gleeful Go to people as my co-host.
They're like, oh, I've emailed him.
He's kidding me.
Oh, I've seen her videos.
She's great.
How'd you link up with GoTo?
This is a joke, right?
No, this is a hundred percent true.
You've got, you people know the great GoToGo here.
I think even some of them, some of them are frequent, frequenters of your email inbox, maybe even.
Oh, like I knew I should have gone.
Oh, no, it would have been so amazing to experience this.
I'm just speechless.
This is...
Yeah.
So the one high I'm still coming down from the, and we've mentioned him on the podcast before.
David Mann, the professor from Harvard CS50 did talk on how they're using a custom coding
cheetovot that they've developed that adapts to every student's needs.
That doesn't necessarily give them the answers like the chat GPT might, but still helps them
learn and critical think and reason and work through different types of problems in a way
that promotes and enhances learning as opposed to something that kind of gives you the answer
and then adds a little bit more and adds a little bit more like chat GPT on its own might.
The things, those things like highlighting and describing what a line of code is or a
tool that helps them organize and debug their code that's bespoke to be just students learning
style.
I think it's a really, not only innovative, but a way that we should be thinking about
how to deploy AI in education.
And it's really cool to see them.
They're the gold standard of a computer science ed.
So I got to shake his hand after and had a very nice moment where I just said, Hey, sir,
I'm standing right here at an AI conference kind of because of you.
Because when I started on my graduate degree and I'm in the first Python learn how to code
course, it's just, it wasn't coming together.
This is during COVID.
So I'm like having to learn on zoom and it's inherently a little harder, but it just like,
am I going to have to change majors?
Like, I don't know.
And then I just found that CS50 course and it gelled for me and then it made sense.
And when I was able to continue on a graduate and learn about complex networks and neural
networks and machine learning and all the things that I use with synth vines and by
virtue of just finding that free course.
So I had a company with 15 people and we're doing all kinds of business because I found
you for a YouTube course.
So that was a kind of special moment.
Isn't it amazing to meet your heroes?
Especially when they just back it up because I, everybody in the, in the press room here,
I'm like, Oh, David Malan speaking.
Y'all are going to want to come see this.
Every single one of them.
Oh my gosh, this guy's incredible.
Cause he has a little orbit around him that forms anywhere he goes.
It's just, she's touched so many lives and even just while waiting to talk to him and,
and interface with some other folks.
Hang on.
My gimbal's gone crazy.
We are keeping this in a podcast.
I would love to keep that.
Hey, listen, I am a master of AI technologies, not camera technology.
Yeah.
Cameras and microphones.
Yeah.
Don't even get me started.
But anyway, it was just even just like standing.
In a little circle ways to talk to David, two other people are like, I was, I was in
finance and then found this course and now I'm a data scientist or I dropped in high
school, I dropped out of college and because of finding this course, it started to be down
a path where now I'm a professional developer.
So just to even be around these type of people was, was such a treat already.
You're making me jealous.
And especially that I got invited, right?
So it, but of course there is a part that this journey is long.
There's going to be conferences and going from Europe just for one conference was a
bit like, but maybe I should have done it, but.
There's, you could have gotten a nice seafood buffet out of the deal.
They have some of those here.
Or vegetarian.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I don't know if I have that.
I don't know.
What is the lineup?
Do you have any interviews settled?
Yeah.
So here and just a little while we're going to be interviewing the CEO and the CTO of
a new health startup called vital health, which just launched the vital health CEO is
the former CEO of mint.com CEO and founder that they sold mint probably about probably
almost like six or seven years ago now to Intuit for $700 million or something like
that, pretty successful exit, but they just launched their new product today.
Vital health that will essentially take a doctor patient interaction.
You can load your notes that the doctor wrote for you, your post-it notes, and it'll
actually translate it into something that the regular non-medically trained professional
can read and understand, or you let it listen to the doctor talk issues.
The doctor talks if you're an inpatient at the hospital and it will translate that for
you.
I can't think of how many times that I've ever been under the care of a physician or
I've had a surgery and you're already like a little out of it.
It's overwhelming.
You're in pain and they're just telling you what's happening.
My, my wife might be scrolling down some notes or something, but that's a completely
human interaction that everybody has probably had where they feel overwhelmed and
under informed about their health because it's the doctor's job to, depending on their
specialty and somebody not have the best bedside manner, explain that stuff.
And we know that from studies, which are coming out that when people rate the empathy,
their feeling being informed, they rate actually tools above doctors.
So that's definitely a market there now.
Yeah, this is exciting.
Yeah.
A lot of cool stuff.
I'll have to look up his names really quick, but we walked into one of the main
keynote seminars by the CEO and the CTO of this tool called chatable chat with an AI
in the middle of it.
Able it's a business enterprise tool that uses chat bot to train your data.
But the thing I found the most provocative about it because it's built for enterprise
tools, built for model training.
The analogy that the CEO gave us today, he said, Hey, if you're following a typical three
month software development life cycle, let's think about what didn't even exist three
months ago in the world of generative AI.
We didn't have llama two, we didn't have Claude, we didn't have llama two, didn't have
the newest release stable diffusion.
Like all of these things weren't around.
So if it's get already getting faster, the time to even just deploy a product needs to
get rapidly slower.
So his entire business proposition when they go into an enterprise customer is they
will have their model trained and their product deployed in 24 hours.
And he's in his 24 hours and the analogy that he gave to was, Hey, it should really be
about a one hour, one hour deal in terms of how easy it should be to like deploy the
model, get things set up, get things rolling and, and then start iterating and evaluating
it from there.
It was interesting to hear like how they also look at these types of developments where
they want to get something in the hands of their customer, so they fail together with
it, try to break it, try to see where the flaws are.
Their tool specifically highlights within a generative AI models outputs, the parts
that are verifiable and true based on whatever data sets it's linked to.
So from compliance perspectives, it's tremendously valuable product, but it was just
really insightful to hear that.
Hey, if you're still applying the old ways on how to develop stuff, how long it takes,
like you're just kind of get left behind or not be able to be nimble enough because
it's changes so fast.
And it's even for us at Symfmines, right?
How fast can we spin projects?
We need to also look into that, but yeah, I see their website, it says generative AI
with guardrails for enterprise analytics.
And this is a thing that very relevant for a lot of businesses.
I think one of the, one of the examples they gave was just like from a marketing
perspective, that'd be like, how can we get better market share for Gen Z?
And then as opposed to it, just doing some really top level generic responses, it
deploys a really analytical with stats, with data based on research that or other data
that they put into it.
So it synthesized it.
The language model kind of synthesized it together live for them to get some insights
that potentially are actionable.
Any parties, any events that you're crashing?
Any team members that you are meeting?
Yes.
I have some of the Symfmines crew here.
They've been terrific.
Can we see T-shirt?
Can we see branding?
We've got some branding.
Look at that.
We're semi-official, but no, it's just been, it's been great to link up with, honestly,
a lot of peers and colleagues.
There's a ton of excitement here.
Really cool network app.
Opportunities.
I think, I think we've been invited on six podcasts already.
So we were just going to need to figure that out, but all great problems to have.
And it's, it's been a treat.
There's going to be some more really interesting stuff.
I think the thing we're looking forward to the most is the chief legal counsel from
OpenAI is doing the keynote tomorrow morning.
So given the landscape of the AI market, well, you know, are they going to tell us,
are they going to tell us, all right, you're all going to be sued, here's what you do.
Or how they're navigating these really unknown times.
Okay.
So we definitely need to catch up tomorrow as well, because I want live updates.
And I think also listeners would love that.
How many launches?
Anything launching that you would know?
So the-
Or you can't tell.
Yes, it's not that secret, but I know the folks that we're interviewing later, that
I mentioned from the Vital Health, they launched their tool today with a address in
one of the breakout rooms.
So that's really exciting.
We're going to be excited to talk to them here a little bit later.
I'm sure if I went down the list to everyone's debut new products, and I should have
some footage to include with some on the fly interviews from the floor and the
exhibits, which we haven't got a chance to do yet, but because there's just been
so many great speakers.
I'm really jealous.
I feel like I never been to US, but it also is so awesome with how to talk to AI
podcast was invited as well.
So this is like really nice to be also recognized and make all around people.
And I'm just like, I keep thinking about what you said before.
So next conference, I'm definitely going.
Oh, no, you might need your own like special entourage room with just some of the
people that especially in the little press group here, they're like, come down.
How did you wake up with?
Don't!
I'm not good with this type of stuff, but I'm like humbled down.
No, I choose with everyone.
Yeah.
Well, if it's in a year, we will see.
But some of the things that we are working on once we start sharing everything
and also on my channel, I think things.
Yeah, that could happen.
Oh, there is another kind of wild launch that happened and that kind of affects
our, our course that we're debuting here later this month, the co-rise course.
Co-rise is now, I think it's up, not up like, I keep saying up like.
I have it in front of me.
Put it in front.
Up limit.
So the co-rise ad tech platform has rebranded as up limit.
They took the logo and turned it on its side and it's, they have some exciting,
exciting reasons for it.
And that was a, a definitely a surprise, but they've been great partners and we're
still looking forward to a terrific course here in a couple of weeks on up limit.
Now check the link to that as always in the show notes, in the, in the newsletter.
And if you use the code AI for all that's 10% off folks, you're welcome.
It's funny because yesterday I was recording a podcast with our genius
prompt engineer, Joseph, and it was like, ah, co-rise, co-rise.
I recorded yesterday, two more videos and now I have to put disclaimers everywhere.
This, this is like crazy when people, but people dealt with rebranding meta.
Oh yeah.
So anything else and Twitter, I think it's like maybe a trendy thing.
X just let's change our name completely.
Well, who knows.
I happen to like how to talk to AI, but maybe there's something there.
No, don't do the, we don't touch it yet.
Okay.
I'm good.
Fine.
Right.
Where it is.
You didn't bump into Elon Musk.
No, Elon is not here, but lots of really interesting, really excited people.
Like I said, there's going to be some other podcasts I will probably go to and
we'll be invited on and I'm just a Joe Rogan.
I haven't seen Joe Rogan.
To talk about the AI.
I think he just gets Lex Freeman on there to tell him about AI.
He's very intelligent.
Like he knows quite a little bit.
Like when you talk with people all day long, you catch.
He did have something on his podcast this week where he showed a video of how China's
using AI in the classrooms, which is just one one's just like eerie.
He showed this video of the students, probably grade school students.
They have to wear this like halo style headband, right?
That through machine learning, it's mapped brain waves of people that are
attentive or inattentive or not paying attention.
So the headbands have a light on them that are green, yellow and red.
And if the light is green, the teacher in the front knows they're paying attention.
If it's yellow, that's they're losing that student.
And then if it's red, they're not paying attention at all.
And like the, this can get tracked not only by the teacher, but the
parents get updates.
That their kid isn't paying attention.
I'm just like, Oh my God, we're going to get to the point that it will be tracked.
What you're thinking and how you're thinking this needs to be in between
partners too, not just kids.
This is amazing idea.
You just walk with a headset.
And then the moment your partner, when you having an argument is drifting off,
you're like, get a blurt.
I was going to say, I'm like, I don't think it's like, would save so many
relationships, right?
I don't think my wife needs me to wear a headband to know when I'm not paying
attention or listening.
I hope our partners are not listening.
They're not listening.
They're like, yeah, whatever.
No, they hear it plenty for months.
I bet you heard about LK 99.
It's about semiconductors flying cars in the background of you.
I'm just curious, is this any stuff about hardware that is resonating around?
Or is basically everything software because LK 99 is a bit taken by the store.
It's a bit controversial.
Is it really a thing because we need to be a review, but for listeners who don't
know LK 99 is a basic material, new material, which could enable room
temperature semiconductors, which will save enormous amounts of both
electricity, but also heat, which also they are magnetic, but also they are
magnetic, which would allow us to just place cars on the roads and which could
be hovering and quantum computing.
Like all things, it may be too good to be true.
So it's a little controversial right now because they weren't able to replicate
some of the research, which is pretty common in a peer review process.
I've been through that.
It can be rigorous when someone comes in at the last minute, you've worked hard
on this paper and they pick apart your entire thesis and be like, I guess we
got to try again, but I think in today's day and age, you have, you have people
are getting funded entirely on, on ideas on possibilities.
It was actually pretty funny.
So they had Josh router.
He gave a talk.
He's the CEO of do not pay.
So for those that don't know this, he started this company about seven years ago
because he's from the UK and he moved to the U S for his studies and his first
year there, he promptly got like 20 or 30 different parking tickets.
He just was, I was such a bad driver.
I got all these tickets.
So he realized that there was some like boilerplate type templates that he could
use to fight these tickets and get out of them, but that became a entire consumer
advocacy company where people can take their cable bill or their gym membership
or their parking ticket, feed it into the, their tool and it fights it for them.
It'll log onto their Comcast account and chat with the chat bot for Comcast.
And he said that GPT 3.5 when Comcast would say, okay, here's a hundred dollars
off your bill, it would say, okay, thank you.
But they liked GPT four because GPT four will be like, I want $200 off the bill.
Not a hundred.
It's a little pushier.
I had GPT four, I keep running out my credits and then I was like, okay, for a
video, we'll use GPT chat, GPT.
And I'm like, I can't go back.
It is completely how did we, and this is just, I remember when we were so
excited about free chat GPT and now I'm like, it's unusable.
We've gotten the taste of the good life, so to speak.
He also told the story.
I don't know if I told it on this podcast, but one of his favorite things
and this is a great example too of AI and FinTech and a bunch of different
kind of technologies converging in such a cool way to help consumers.
Here in the States, I'm sure everyone, everyone's probably gotten a
robo call from some, someone somewhere has your cell phone number.
Yeah.
And they, I'm trapped beneath your credit card.
Yeah.
Or your warranty on your car or your mortgage or this, that, and the other thing.
They have a FinTech feature that creates a one time use credit card
number that will be declined.
It doesn't have any funds attached to it.
It's a fake credit card, but when it declines, it gets the name and address
of the people that are placing the robo call from like a financial perspective.
And then here in the States, you're allowed to sue robo callers.
So they have the template letters, the form letters, the
stuff like that, there's a guy that his full-time job in New Jersey is.
He sues robo callers that call him.
Cause then he just, he goes through the whole thing.
Their whole song and dance gives them a fake credit card number, gets their
info and then sues them because they don't want to, they don't want their
scam to be blown up when they take it to court.
So they just settle oftentimes.
And it's just like, whoa, talk about a wild convergence of a bunch of
these different technologies for good.
For good or bad.
Yeah.
But we cover only good for now.
You are going to interview people right away.
So I think on my side, I'm going to spin off this podcast.
Is this place as good as any to end right now?
Just for this place is as good as any for now.
Stay tuned folks for live updates.
Follow us on LinkedIn for some, some commentary, some posts, some footage
recaps, we'll be posting a few more little update videos throughout the
course of the day staying on the same topic.
Throughout the course of the day, today and tomorrow.
So yeah, hope to see you there as always.
Happy prompting everybody.