1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,780 All right, so we have Dawn Davis with us on on the show today and the first question for you 2 00:00:05,780 --> 00:00:10,920 Dawn is who is Dawn Davis? Dawn Davis is a desert dweller a 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,120 podcaster a voiceover a book and bourbon lover 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:21,040 What is a desert dweller and you know, how did you wind up in the desert? 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,520 How did I wind up in the desert you make it sound so bad? 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:31,380 I think those who need to be here are called I I believe that totally 7 00:00:31,380 --> 00:00:34,600 I was living in LA for about seven years and 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:40,360 Came out randomly on a trip with friends for the very first time to Joshua Tree, California 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,160 And as soon as I hit what we call the yucca grade 10 00:00:43,160 --> 00:00:48,340 there's a town called Yucca Valley where you come up from the 10 down where you would go to Palm Springs and 11 00:00:48,340 --> 00:00:54,340 As soon as I hit the top of that grade, I felt something physically shift inside me 12 00:00:54,340 --> 00:00:57,580 if I call it my stand-up and pay attention moment and 13 00:00:58,420 --> 00:01:02,420 From the moment we got here everywhere. We went went everywhere 14 00:01:02,420 --> 00:01:08,460 We went to eat in the Joshua Tree National Park everywhere. I just had this sense of I need to be here and 15 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:15,340 That was in April of 2016 by the end of July. I was here in an apartment living 16 00:01:15,340 --> 00:01:21,300 and the weird thing is that ever since I moved out of my parents house a long long time ago as a 17 00:01:21,580 --> 00:01:23,580 late teenager 18 00:01:23,580 --> 00:01:29,260 I have decorated every place I've ever lived as if I were in the desert 19 00:01:29,260 --> 00:01:33,540 I had Native American prints cactus kind of stuff Adobe kind of stuff and 20 00:01:34,580 --> 00:01:36,580 So when I got here, it was almost like 21 00:01:37,100 --> 00:01:42,820 This is very familiar and now it was not only in my house. It was outside my house. Got you 22 00:01:42,820 --> 00:01:48,240 So what were you what were you doing at the time before you started podcasting? I am a voiceover by trade 23 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:53,460 So I have a studio in my house and I do a lot of e-learning 24 00:01:54,380 --> 00:01:59,580 I've done some audiobooks, but my most of my work is regional commercials for radio and 25 00:02:00,260 --> 00:02:04,740 E-learning and training corporate narration. Gotcha. Very nice. So you have a radio background. I 26 00:02:05,260 --> 00:02:10,640 Was on the radio a very long time ago at a very small station in New Jersey called WCNJ 27 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:16,220 I don't even think it exists anymore. Yeah, and we actually had a window that looked out on the street 28 00:02:16,220 --> 00:02:20,540 So when people were at the stoplight, they would look over and could wave at us. Nice. Very nice 29 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:28,740 Yeah, so how did you get into podcasting? Well it started off when I was in LA. I was considering starting a blog 30 00:02:29,780 --> 00:02:36,500 You know blogging is another thing that kind of has come along as something you can do at home and potentially make an income from 31 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:41,980 so I was trying to think about what I would offer as my content in a blog and 32 00:02:42,620 --> 00:02:47,140 After some thinking about it. It occurred to me that as a woman of a certain age 33 00:02:47,140 --> 00:02:51,860 I would have some information to offer younger women relative to 34 00:02:52,300 --> 00:02:59,340 Finances and relationships and things like that. So I went out and I pulled up this WordPress site. I put it all together 35 00:02:59,420 --> 00:03:04,140 I solicited my 16 year old niece for questions. Like what would you want to ask? 36 00:03:04,140 --> 00:03:08,460 About life in general that you might not want to ask your mom about what would you want to ask me? 37 00:03:08,460 --> 00:03:13,940 So she sent me like ten or so questions and I started down the path of putting those together in blogs 38 00:03:13,940 --> 00:03:15,940 And I never pressed the button 39 00:03:16,740 --> 00:03:18,740 It's still sitting there to this day 40 00:03:19,740 --> 00:03:23,820 Not launched the website and I got right. Yeah, so 41 00:03:24,540 --> 00:03:29,660 Then I you know went on with myself and just kept doing my voiceover and then came out here to the desert 42 00:03:29,660 --> 00:03:35,660 And then I started meeting all these really amazing women that were either here for you 43 00:03:35,660 --> 00:03:40,700 Know they were born and raised here or they had moved here from some other place like me called here 44 00:03:41,260 --> 00:03:44,140 Had some kind of maybe spiritual experience or whatever 45 00:03:45,100 --> 00:03:46,380 and 46 00:03:46,380 --> 00:03:53,500 I thought wow, maybe instead of having the blog that I had maybe I could do a podcast because that would also get 47 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:55,500 My voice as a voiceover out there 48 00:03:55,500 --> 00:04:00,620 In addition to all these great stories about all these women. So that's how the podcast was born 49 00:04:00,620 --> 00:04:04,220 So you decide you're gonna do a podcast. What do you go out and buy? 50 00:04:05,740 --> 00:04:06,780 I 51 00:04:06,780 --> 00:04:08,780 Didn't buy anything. I 52 00:04:08,780 --> 00:04:14,940 I am a library lover and I went into my local library website and pulled out a couple 53 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:20,620 Podcasting books that once I got them. I realized how dated they were based on technology 54 00:04:20,620 --> 00:04:26,540 But some of the concepts, you know, we're still good and then I bought I did buy a book and I can't remember who wrote it 55 00:04:26,540 --> 00:04:28,540 But it was a very small like ebook 56 00:04:28,860 --> 00:04:33,260 that I downloaded on my iPad and was reading that being a voiceover the 57 00:04:34,060 --> 00:04:40,620 Technology wasn't so much an issue as it might be for somebody who doesn't have that background because I know how to record audio 58 00:04:40,620 --> 00:04:45,900 I'm not an experienced audio engineer per se but I can get the job done 59 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:51,820 So that hurdle that wasn't a hurdle for me. Um, and then I just went really to kind of 60 00:04:52,060 --> 00:04:54,300 Went through all these materials and I said, okay 61 00:04:54,300 --> 00:05:00,300 Well, I need to have a concept and I need to decide how long it's gonna be and I need to decide where it's gonna live 62 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:05,100 And all that stuff and went about the business of doing those awesome lips and tutorials 63 00:05:06,220 --> 00:05:07,500 and 64 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:10,460 Just started asking a couple of friends like like hey 65 00:05:10,460 --> 00:05:13,900 I'm thinking of doing this podcast and I would love to do a podcast 66 00:05:13,900 --> 00:05:18,220 I'm thinking of doing this podcast and I would love to have you come on and be an interview 67 00:05:18,220 --> 00:05:22,940 So I started with my friends locally and then sort of branched out 68 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:26,620 Getting introduced to people or as people would come and be interviewed 69 00:05:26,620 --> 00:05:32,300 They would say you need to talk to this person and this person and this person. So that's how I got to 70 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,460 67 episodes as of today. So you decided to go with lips in you you 71 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:42,140 Bought a microphone or had a microphone already because you were doing voiceover 72 00:05:42,140 --> 00:05:46,300 Uh, you didn't launch the website. So you kept it pretty low budget to start 73 00:05:46,940 --> 00:05:50,380 Right. I actually have a totally separate website for the podcast 74 00:05:50,380 --> 00:05:55,260 And it's a totally different name than the other road that I was going down with that blog. Gotcha 75 00:05:55,260 --> 00:05:59,660 So you did a wordpress website, which is this is relatively inexpensive 76 00:06:00,060 --> 00:06:04,300 Did you have to put any more money into it or this is really that's how you started 77 00:06:04,860 --> 00:06:09,580 That's really how I started and I didn't even go wordpress this time because I have a website 78 00:06:09,580 --> 00:06:14,780 Uh website, I have websites through wix using the like the premium channel if you will 79 00:06:14,940 --> 00:06:20,940 Okay, I have a website for my voiceover. I have a website for my acting because I was also doing acting in la 80 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:25,340 um, and I still do that out here at local theater and 81 00:06:26,060 --> 00:06:28,060 So I just went with wix because it was what I knew 82 00:06:28,700 --> 00:06:31,420 So they have theaters in the desert. They do we actually have 83 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:36,220 there's actually three or four of them and I was the co-founder this year and 84 00:06:36,220 --> 00:06:40,920 And uh co-producer of the high desert fringe festival. Very nice. Very nice 85 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:48,200 So, um, how did the first one go? Gosh, it went great. Um, my guest was sarah witt. She is 86 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,400 Great. She moved here about the same time. I did 87 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:59,720 She's a chef that goes out and forages in the desert as the native americans would have done when they were here in this area 88 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,880 and uh creates dinner experiences around those things and she's 89 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:08,360 Really animated and very thoughtful. Uh, so it went really really well 90 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,640 Hmm forages in the desert exactly. What does that mean? 91 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,920 Well, there are certain plants 92 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,000 um that either 93 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,640 bear fruit or have you know twigs that are associated with say 94 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,040 I don't want to use this term because the i've learned that it's a derogatory term 95 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,520 But i'm going to use it because I can't remember the name of the stuff 96 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:35,480 Uh, it makes something called mormon tea and it's a plant here in the desert that if you pull some of those twigs off 97 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,880 And boil them up. It makes a medicinal tea 98 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:44,680 So she uh prickly pear bears fruit and you can take the fruits off and boil them down 99 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:52,360 And to a juice and they are delicious either as a juice on their own or just add vodka and you have a really nice tail 100 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,000 so you said 101 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,840 The word mormon is now offensive man. I jeez everything is 102 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,920 Actually sarah wit if you look her up online, I think it's sarah wit.com or net 103 00:08:05,540 --> 00:08:08,360 s a r a h w i t t 104 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,320 I know that she has a part on her website where uh, she learned 105 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,920 About that term and that it's inappropriate because the mormons I guess didn't technically discover it 106 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,720 It was being used by native americans all this time and then the mormons came to town and said 107 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:30,040 Oh, it's mormon tea now. So okay that that gives you a little bit of the gist of that. Yeah. Got it. All right, so 108 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,360 How how did you come up with this idea? 109 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,480 And is it catching on did it catch on when did it catch on to do what you're doing here? 110 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:47,260 Well, um, I live in joshua tree is a pretty rural area to begin with so I find myself educating 111 00:08:47,260 --> 00:08:53,580 In addition to doing the podcast because a lot of people as I discovered at podcast movement 112 00:08:54,060 --> 00:08:56,060 From was it tom? 113 00:08:56,620 --> 00:08:58,620 uh from edison 114 00:08:58,620 --> 00:09:04,220 He had that was a great presentation. He did on all the facts and figures about why people aren't listening to podcasts 115 00:09:04,220 --> 00:09:07,420 They don't know what they are. They don't know where to find them. They don't know how to choose them 116 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:09,500 So i've had some education on that part 117 00:09:09,900 --> 00:09:13,020 Um, but my first month I had to 280 118 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:19,580 Uh downloads or listens and now i'm up to about 1500 and it's all very organic 119 00:09:19,660 --> 00:09:24,620 It's I haven't done. I don't have any sponsors or advertisers. I haven't done any real 120 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:33,020 Promotion instagram. I started an instagram for it before I even launched an episode and that got a 121 00:09:33,340 --> 00:09:38,460 That generated a lot of traffic. I mean, you know people look at 280 and go that's not a lot. Well, whatever 122 00:09:38,860 --> 00:09:40,300 um 123 00:09:40,300 --> 00:09:44,220 To not have anything up. It was getting some traction shall we say? 124 00:09:44,860 --> 00:09:46,620 um 125 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:52,220 So that was that was my best friend. So it's just driving. Uh, the traffic is coming very organically 126 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:53,660 I leave cards, you know 127 00:09:53,660 --> 00:09:59,660 This is a town where if you have a band and it's playing somewhere you go put a poster up in front of our local 128 00:10:00,140 --> 00:10:03,260 Uh restaurant called crossroads out on the board, you know 129 00:10:03,260 --> 00:10:07,660 And the poster game in this town is pretty rough if somebody come along and put their poster up in front of yours 130 00:10:07,660 --> 00:10:10,300 And stuff like that, but I put cards in there 131 00:10:10,380 --> 00:10:15,900 I put them in the restrooms of some of the local things because we get a lot of tourists here 132 00:10:15,900 --> 00:10:18,860 We've got about three million people coming to the park now annually 133 00:10:19,260 --> 00:10:25,340 Which is a little out of hand because uh, the rangers will tell you we're loving the park to death and it's um, 134 00:10:25,420 --> 00:10:32,060 People are coming up here that don't aren't really educated about the ways of the desert and they're hanging their hammocks on joshua trees 135 00:10:32,140 --> 00:10:36,060 Which are protected tree and you can't do that. It's illegal. Um 136 00:10:36,060 --> 00:10:41,100 Um, so but because we get a lot of tourists, I will go in these places and drop off 137 00:10:41,180 --> 00:10:43,900 You know cards and just leave them there and the next time I go back 138 00:10:43,980 --> 00:10:50,140 They're all gone and you know, whether they threw them away or whether someone actually took them which I prefer to believe the latter 139 00:10:50,380 --> 00:10:56,380 Sure, uh, you know and listen and i've got people listening from people who come here and discover it and they're like 140 00:10:56,380 --> 00:10:59,020 Oh my gosh, I would love to move there, but I can't right now 141 00:10:59,180 --> 00:11:05,340 But having your podcast really gives me a sense of how I would go about that or what it's like to live there 142 00:11:05,340 --> 00:11:10,860 So I hear a lot of feedback from some of the people who do listen like from kansas or um, 143 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,860 alaska 144 00:11:12,860 --> 00:11:14,860 So did you say you're up to 1500? 145 00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:23,260 Downloads and listens per episode. Yes. Okay. No per month per month per month and you're doing how many a week or how many a month? 146 00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:27,020 I do four so I do one a week. It's a 30 minute weekly 147 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:32,860 Conversation with women who live in the mojave desert. Do you try and do it at the same time every week? 148 00:11:32,860 --> 00:11:36,860 So it's posted at a consistent day and time. I absolutely do 149 00:11:36,860 --> 00:11:39,980 That was one of the things even though those library books were a little dated 150 00:11:40,060 --> 00:11:44,140 That was definitely one of the things that I picked up from there was that consistency is king 151 00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:50,700 And if you don't have that you're gonna lose people so every monday night i'm uploading so it's there 152 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:57,660 On tuesday, you know or goes right to their subscription via, you know apple podcasts or whoever they listen through 153 00:11:57,980 --> 00:12:01,820 Gotcha, and how much editing are you doing? And if you are doing it, what are you using? 154 00:12:01,820 --> 00:12:08,140 I don't do a ton of editing and I do a really I use a really um kind of unknown program to a number of people 155 00:12:08,140 --> 00:12:14,380 Called sound studio. I think it was something that was used to come as baked into your mac when you got your 156 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:16,700 Laptop or whatever 157 00:12:16,700 --> 00:12:21,340 So I use that and I don't do a lot of editing at all. We sit down at the table 158 00:12:21,420 --> 00:12:25,180 We start talking and I make sure you know, I keep an eye on time 159 00:12:25,740 --> 00:12:29,420 But when I go back in to edit, I don't add any music 160 00:12:29,420 --> 00:12:32,060 It's really like bare bones and simple 161 00:12:32,540 --> 00:12:38,940 I take out a lot of the maybe false start sentences the ums the ahs the things that go and um 162 00:12:39,900 --> 00:12:41,900 And um sure I take those out 163 00:12:42,620 --> 00:12:45,660 So it looks clean and we both I say we both sound smart 164 00:12:46,300 --> 00:12:52,060 So you invite these guests into your living room and you do the do the do the show right at the kitchen table 165 00:12:52,540 --> 00:12:53,740 I do 166 00:12:53,740 --> 00:12:55,740 How do you know you're not inviting? 167 00:12:55,740 --> 00:13:00,240 Uh strangers or weird people over. I mean, I mean, are you sure you're safe? 168 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,840 I'm sure i'm safe and I think that's part of um 169 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:10,000 Being in a community like this we that word community means so much to us here because we are 170 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:15,120 A community of people and you really have to have a love for this place to be here 171 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:19,440 Um, and we go out a lot. I mean a lot of people will say to me 172 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,960 What do you do out there and i'm like, okay 173 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:28,080 Well, there's about four theaters that are either running a philharmonic or a play at any given time 174 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:33,920 Uh, there's music venues and open mics galore. There's a ton of musicians out here 175 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:39,600 So essentially on every any given night you could be out every night of the week doing something 176 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,240 Being somewhere with the people that live in your area and you know 177 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,880 I don't know what the population of joshua tree is right now, but the sign on the highway says like 178 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,820 8900 I would venture to say it's probably around 179 00:13:53,740 --> 00:13:54,900 10,000 180 00:13:54,900 --> 00:14:00,740 So what is the you know, tell us what the content of the of the show is about every week. What are you trying to get across? 181 00:14:01,380 --> 00:14:07,460 Well, usually what I do is i'm trying to find out either why people came here or why people stay here 182 00:14:07,460 --> 00:14:12,260 And I shouldn't say people I say women it's really focused on the women that come here because 183 00:14:12,900 --> 00:14:18,340 Back in the 40s. There was something called or even before that maybe there was something called the homestead act 184 00:14:18,340 --> 00:14:25,860 Where the government was trying to essentially give away this land for quote-unquote agricultural purposes. So if you came out and 185 00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:27,460 um 186 00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:31,140 Worked the land and built a structure that was like 10 by 12 187 00:14:31,620 --> 00:14:35,060 They would just give you the land and you would live on it 188 00:14:35,620 --> 00:14:36,580 so 189 00:14:36,580 --> 00:14:40,660 Met but many of the people that came out in the say the 40s 190 00:14:41,140 --> 00:14:45,300 Were men who had mustard gas poisoning or other breathing? 191 00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:47,980 Difficulties from the war and there was a doctor in 192 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,080 Pasadena that would recommend that they come out here to live 193 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:56,240 So if you imagine these men who have breathing problems, they're coming out here to get well, but they're not completely well 194 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:01,720 So their wives are the ones who are doing all the work and figuring out how to drip 195 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,240 You know dig the wells and all that kind of stuff 196 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:10,680 So that's a bit why I focused it on women and there's a bit of it seems like a phenomenon that so many women do 197 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,720 Come out here and it was one of the first places that women could buy property as a single woman in the in those times 198 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,960 You couldn't do that in other places 199 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,360 so 200 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,040 Essentially we sit down and the first question I always ask is 201 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,280 What was your first experience with the desert in general? 202 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:31,160 Like it doesn't have to be this desert any desert and then how did they end up moving here? 203 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,680 Was it a family vacation and they had you know this feeling like I feel like I need to move here 204 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,920 And we go through that then we talk about how did they know anyone when they moved here? 205 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,760 And if they didn't how did they go about finding their community? 206 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:51,200 We talked a little bit then about more individually what they do either for a living or in the community 207 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,640 I think I sent you a list 208 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:59,880 I have people who were running for Congress recently who are political activists working with the local immigrant prison 209 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,000 We have an amputee shop owner 210 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,400 So their backgrounds are varied musicians artists activists moms 211 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,800 They do everything so we talk a little bit about that 212 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:16,040 And then usually I rap with if someone were to ask you or to tell you that they were thinking about moving to the desert 213 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,720 What are some things that you would tell them to be ready for or? 214 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:25,720 You know what advice would you give them and that's usually how we wrap it and what kind of feedback? 215 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,720 Are you getting from your listeners? 216 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:33,960 I run into people often that have never met me before and they'll go oh my gosh 217 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,960 You're the one who does that podcast. I love that. You know, yeah, so it's pretty cool 218 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:46,960 That people are enjoying it and I get emails or Instagram messages from people either talking about you know 219 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,600 I was out there and I really love it and I'm trying to find a way to move there. This is 220 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:57,760 Been really helpful or I was visiting there and happened to stumble upon the podcast and I know I can't come there now 221 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:04,720 But I love listening to all these stories about these women and how they got there and what they do there and yeah, so 222 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,560 Why do you why do you like doing a podcast? What is it about? 223 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:11,600 Podcasting that brings you back to the kitchen table every week 224 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:18,640 Well, it's now I've got you know some people that are listening and kind of counting on it being there 225 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,840 I would say it's definitely a labor of love and a passion 226 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,920 Just because I do love the work of voiceover 227 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,680 So there's that part of it and then for me 228 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:36,800 What's been happening is a lot of times when we as a community are out at some functions. We see people that we know 229 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:44,000 Or we think we know but this has given me an opportunity to sit down with people either that I do am 230 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:50,960 Acquainted with or even I'm not acquainted with that were recommended to me to be interviewed and it gives me that 30 minutes or 45 231 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,160 Minutes by the time we do all the you know, chit chat and everything 232 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,920 It gives me that one-on-one time with them to really get to know who they are as a person 233 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,440 In a deeper way and then the next time that I see them 234 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,640 I feel like I know a little bit more about them than just hey, how are you doing? 235 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,880 How's that thing? Oh great. Okay. See you next time sort of interaction. Do you know? 236 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:17,520 Yeah, so my my my thought was um, you're sitting at the kitchen table and it sounds like it's mostly a one-on-one 237 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,160 Interview that you're having 238 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:25,600 Right. I've only done one that had two. Well, I've done two different things. I've had one interview that was a mom and a daughter 239 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,200 Okay, which was cool 240 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:33,360 And then I did another thing where I go out into the community when there are like these craft fairs and stuff like that 241 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:35,360 And they're like rent a table for ten dollars 242 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:37,680 So I will go out and rent a table for ten dollars 243 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:43,840 But I bring all my podcast stuff nice so it's not only an opportunity for me to get the word out about the podcast 244 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:50,800 And get some potential guests because I have a sign-up sheet for email to get the weekly episode email to you every week 245 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:56,320 And I also have a sign-up sheet for do you want to be interviewed or do you recommend someone that I should interview? 246 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,840 And it gives me an opportunity also to educate about the podcast 247 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,960 Well, I don't have a lot of people here don't have a podcast 248 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:10,240 Well, I don't have a lot of people here don't have a smartphone. They still have a you know flip phone 249 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,040 So how are they going to get the podcast? I said, do you have internet access at home? Yeah, I have a computer 250 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:20,120 I said, okay, we'll go online and go to YouTube. It's a static photo, but you can hear the audio go to SoundCloud 251 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:22,560 You can hear it there. So I have it in places 252 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,900 I not only have it in places where it's accessible to more people 253 00:19:25,900 --> 00:19:32,320 But these opportunities give me the chance to have more people listen and be interested 254 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,600 So my question about when you're doing it at your kitchen table 255 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,920 Is there a specific reason why you don't do it on Facebook too? 256 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:46,960 Well, I have a lot of women who come and say the first thing they say when I answer the door is I'm so nervous 257 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:53,760 And I've had a couple people email me before the interview and say is this on camera 258 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,440 Do I have to dress a certain way? 259 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:01,200 And I think that it lends itself to being a lot more relaxed and especially at the kitchen table 260 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,400 I mean, like I said, I have the voiceover studio, but it's a walk-in closet 261 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,200 I can't set up a table and chairs in there in the whole nine yards. There's no room for that 262 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,560 So I just do it at the kitchen table and that itself 263 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:19,000 Lends a bit of comfort because it's just like two friends talking, you know 264 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,880 So do you plan to try and make some money at it? 265 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:29,040 Well, I have a donation button on the website and I have gotten donations 266 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,200 I have a couple people who have a donation subscription if you will 267 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,400 So once a month they send a certain amount of money 268 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:42,120 I'm looking at patreon. It's taking me a long time because I find I'm not good with that 269 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:48,360 Platform there's just something about it that is kind of difficult and I don't know if it's difficult for me 270 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:51,200 Will it be difficult for people? I have to kind of sort that out 271 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,400 but what I've been thinking of doing in order to add value to get people to go to patreon is 272 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,760 Doing a kind of a postscript 273 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:06,080 10 minute segment after the initial interview and capture a couple of more personal questions 274 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,480 from each person and then have that be the you know 275 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:17,120 Private link that the patreon subscribers get so they get that little extra at the after the interview 276 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:22,040 Yeah, I think that's a great idea. It's really a you know, we have a patreon account too for ours 277 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,640 It you do have to babysit a little bit 278 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,160 I think and you do have to push it out for people to I didn't even know what it was until another 279 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:34,240 Podcaster told me so it's gonna be hard for people that don't even podcast I think to catch right 280 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,160 Let's you know unless you're in that, you know in that in that kind of space there 281 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:44,960 So I wanted to ask you what advice you had for other podcasters or people that are thinking about getting into it 282 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,200 Well, like Dave Jackson says just launch it 283 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:54,680 But I would recommend either reaching out to somebody who you're familiar with that may be doing a podcast 284 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,160 Go on Facebook and get on that podcast movement group 285 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:04,360 There is so much information just use the search box on the left for any questions that you have or just put your question 286 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:06,360 In there and someone will answer it 287 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,680 There are so many people doing it now with so many levels of experience 288 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,840 You can really find a lot of information just by searching on the internet 289 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,320 But and I would say don't be afraid 290 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,720 To do it just because you know, you may have a challenge you think with to technology or something 291 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,320 I think for most people that's probably the biggest thing is the recording 292 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:33,240 Those that would be my advice just start yeah 293 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:41,480 Now we're running out of time here. So where can people reach you listen to you get in touch with you and donate? 294 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,440 Okay. Well everything is available at the website 295 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,440 desertladydiaries.com 296 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:52,840 And you can email me at desertladydiaries at gmail.com and we're also on Facebook 297 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:58,800 Instagram and Twitter on Facebook and Instagram. It's at desertladydiaries 298 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,840 And Twitter wasn't long enough. So I had to go with at desertladydiary 299 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,760 singular 300 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,280 Well, that's a great name I love the name it was very catchy when you sent an email over and which 301 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:18,600 Of course, you know when you see that the subject line or you see that name it grabs you and so you want to make sure you 302 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,920 You reach back. So it's a great name and it sounds like you're having a 303 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,520 Great time and a lot of fun out there in the desert 304 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:32,760 I am it's a really amazing place if anyone gets a chance to come out and visit any desert 305 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:42,440 It's a really different kind of landscape and who knows you might find it really interesting