WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.000 Hello, and welcome back to PodNews Weekly Review. 00:00:02.299 --> 00:00:04.900 It's 2026, and we've got some exciting news from 00:00:04.900 --> 00:00:07.099 one of our friends. It's Wondercraft. They've 00:00:07.099 --> 00:00:09.359 come out with a new product. So who better to 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:11.839 ask than Dimi Nicolai, the CEO and co -founder 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:13.839 of Wondercraft. Hey, Dimi, how are you? Hey, 00:00:13.859 --> 00:00:15.279 Sam, I'm doing fantastic. How are you? Thank 00:00:15.279 --> 00:00:17.300 you for the invite. You're very welcome. Now, 00:00:17.399 --> 00:00:20.179 two seconds before we get into what new product 00:00:20.179 --> 00:00:22.480 you've got, just for those who don't know, give 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:24.879 me a quick update. Who and what is Wondercraft? 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:27.399 Yeah, for sure. So WonderCraft is a platform 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:29.300 that we built a couple of years ago with the 00:00:29.300 --> 00:00:31.980 aim of making audio content creation a lot easier. 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:34.979 I think for most of your listeners, obviously 00:00:34.979 --> 00:00:37.600 most people will be podcast creators. They're 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:40.939 well aware of like the arduous task that it sometimes 00:00:40.939 --> 00:00:43.859 may be to record properly and edit properly. 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:46.259 With the rise of AI voices, we decided to build 00:00:46.259 --> 00:00:48.600 an application layer that's similar to Canva 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:50.920 for anyone that's aware in the sense that it's 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.920 a very easy to use interface for someone to use 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:57.119 AI voice. including their own and create podcast 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:00.259 content. Of course, there's the audience. I have 00:01:00.259 --> 00:01:03.560 to clarify that by no means this refers to long 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:08.000 form banter style, people discussing style podcasts, 00:01:08.260 --> 00:01:11.120 but rather more so like information dissemination, 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.980 something very specific also. I kind of opened 00:01:13.980 --> 00:01:17.239 a new market for businesses to be creating podcasts 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:19.780 to just have an additional touch point for their 00:01:19.780 --> 00:01:21.340 customers, but also for internal communication 00:01:21.340 --> 00:01:24.519 purposes. In the past, I hadn't seen many podcasts 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:26.519 being created inside organizations for internal 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:28.719 communications, whereas this has happened quite 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:31.680 a lot with WonderCraft for training new people 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:34.120 or disseminating information within an organization. 00:01:34.579 --> 00:01:37.260 So this has been the past of WonderCraft over 00:01:37.260 --> 00:01:39.219 the past couple of years, ever since we launched. 00:01:39.420 --> 00:01:41.099 I remember when I came to one of your demos, 00:01:41.219 --> 00:01:42.930 it was also about advertising. advertising as 00:01:42.930 --> 00:01:45.439 well using voices within advertising. Yeah, that's 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:47.920 correct. So apart from creating audio content 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:50.379 within an application layer on top of AI Voices, 00:01:50.579 --> 00:01:53.519 you can use that application to create podcasts, 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:55.319 but you can use it for other purposes as well. 00:01:55.459 --> 00:01:57.959 One of our main use cases has actually been creating 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:01.239 ads. So we've had big customers like Spotify, 00:02:01.739 --> 00:02:05.180 Amazon, iHeart, all creating ads on WonderCraft, 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:07.219 their internal creative teams creating ads on 00:02:07.219 --> 00:02:09.759 WonderCraft. But also other use cases like meditations 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:12.979 and also audiobooks have been a couple of others 00:02:12.979 --> 00:02:15.280 that we've seen happening at scale. When I had 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.020 my own radio station, I wish Wondercroft was 00:02:17.020 --> 00:02:19.199 around to do the advertising for me. Would have 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:22.819 saved me a lot of hours. Now, very excitingly, 00:02:22.819 --> 00:02:25.500 2026, and you're launching a new product extension 00:02:25.500 --> 00:02:28.550 to Wondercroft. What is it? Yeah, so the extension 00:02:28.550 --> 00:02:31.110 of the product is evolving into the video space 00:02:31.110 --> 00:02:33.949 as well. So apart from being able to come into 00:02:33.949 --> 00:02:36.150 the platform and create audio content by leveraging 00:02:36.150 --> 00:02:38.650 AI voices, it's very similar. You can come into 00:02:38.650 --> 00:02:41.550 the platform and create audio and video content, 00:02:41.650 --> 00:02:44.569 including video podcasts. You can create a video 00:02:44.569 --> 00:02:47.270 podcast from scratch. Of course, you may be wondering, 00:02:47.349 --> 00:02:50.050 like, what does that mean in terms of the visuals? 00:02:50.310 --> 00:02:52.949 And what that means is it could be anything between 00:02:52.949 --> 00:02:55.750 you can generate footage with the AI, you can 00:02:55.750 --> 00:02:57.909 use stock footage. if you want, or you can use 00:02:57.909 --> 00:03:00.870 avatars as part of that flow. We advise usually 00:03:00.870 --> 00:03:02.909 against just having two avatars speaking the 00:03:02.909 --> 00:03:05.969 whole time and basically go end to end in creating 00:03:05.969 --> 00:03:09.169 an engaging way of presenting some information. 00:03:09.490 --> 00:03:11.949 We've grouping that in the podcast category because 00:03:11.949 --> 00:03:14.930 it's a broad term and you can have a conversational 00:03:14.930 --> 00:03:17.969 style video. It's not just for podcasts. There's 00:03:17.969 --> 00:03:19.389 like many other things like training videos, 00:03:19.629 --> 00:03:21.669 educational videos, again, like what you mentioned 00:03:21.669 --> 00:03:24.229 before, ads as well. So moving from the audio 00:03:24.229 --> 00:03:26.969 ad space to the video ad. space with the idea 00:03:26.969 --> 00:03:29.069 here being that we want to serve the same audience 00:03:29.069 --> 00:03:31.330 of like i don't know where to start i don't know 00:03:31.330 --> 00:03:33.409 how to create content i don't know how to edit 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:35.840 I would love to just use a simple interface to 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:38.180 go end to end in creating that. So people come 00:03:38.180 --> 00:03:40.099 to the platform, they describe what they want, 00:03:40.259 --> 00:03:43.099 and then it's on WonderCraft to figure out what 00:03:43.099 --> 00:03:45.860 models to use across all of the different AI 00:03:45.860 --> 00:03:49.479 models between video and audio and images and 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:52.180 sound and avatars and stitch everything together 00:03:52.180 --> 00:03:54.759 to create a compelling story off of what you're 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:57.020 describing. And then the interesting thing is 00:03:57.020 --> 00:03:59.340 that we present everything to you on simple to 00:03:59.340 --> 00:04:01.259 use timelines so that you can make edits. It's 00:04:01.259 --> 00:04:03.800 not just a one shot that you... just can't edit 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:06.180 from that point on so this is what we created 00:04:06.180 --> 00:04:09.919 this basically easy to use video creation platform 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:12.360 on top of ai models and there's two more components 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:14.539 that may be interesting too the first one is 00:04:14.539 --> 00:04:17.279 that apart from creating your podcast on wondercraft 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.439 you can also visualize your podcast meaning if 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:22.819 you have an audio first podcast it's very easy 00:04:22.819 --> 00:04:26.480 for you to come to wondercraft and create a video 00:04:26.970 --> 00:04:29.089 On top of that, the way that you do that is you 00:04:29.089 --> 00:04:30.769 go through a simple workflow. You upload your 00:04:30.769 --> 00:04:32.990 podcast, go through a simple workflow by describing 00:04:32.990 --> 00:04:35.550 what it is that you want in terms of the visuals 00:04:35.550 --> 00:04:37.769 that you would want on the video. And then we 00:04:37.769 --> 00:04:39.810 create that video for you. Maybe it has some 00:04:39.810 --> 00:04:41.649 avatars, maybe it has some generated B -roll 00:04:41.649 --> 00:04:43.230 that's relevant to what is being spoken about, 00:04:43.370 --> 00:04:45.670 some captions, some sound waves, whatever you 00:04:45.670 --> 00:04:48.170 define. And then you get a video version of your 00:04:48.170 --> 00:04:51.269 podcast so that you can very easily reach YouTube 00:04:51.269 --> 00:04:54.290 and the other video platforms. That's the first 00:04:54.290 --> 00:04:56.170 part that may be interesting. And the second. 00:04:56.269 --> 00:05:00.009 part is that we made it very easy to edit existing 00:05:00.009 --> 00:05:02.129 podcasts, especially video podcasts, but also 00:05:02.129 --> 00:05:04.389 audio podcasts. You just upload your content. 00:05:04.610 --> 00:05:07.930 You just chat to the AI agent to help you to 00:05:07.930 --> 00:05:10.290 perform that editing so that you don't need to 00:05:10.290 --> 00:05:12.870 do that editing yourself. I brought this last 00:05:12.870 --> 00:05:15.769 part explicitly last because it's still in alpha 00:05:15.769 --> 00:05:18.769 mode. So there's still some. exploration to be 00:05:18.769 --> 00:05:20.529 done. And I know that there's other organizations 00:05:20.529 --> 00:05:22.810 that are doing this last part as well. So your 00:05:22.810 --> 00:05:24.230 audience may be a little bit more experienced 00:05:24.230 --> 00:05:27.610 than that. So I primarily focused on the AI generative 00:05:27.610 --> 00:05:29.649 process, whether it's to create your podcast 00:05:29.649 --> 00:05:31.949 from scratch or to turn your audio podcast into 00:05:31.949 --> 00:05:34.730 a video. Seeing the demo. So this is very cool. 00:05:34.889 --> 00:05:38.269 And again, using AI prompts is very easy to do. 00:05:38.329 --> 00:05:40.750 I think one of the biggest challenges for anyone 00:05:40.750 --> 00:05:45.110 who's used any of the video AI generating tools 00:05:45.110 --> 00:05:48.160 is editing. So having an editor within that, 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:50.199 because a lot of the times you create something 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:53.139 in say VO and you go back to it and you can't 00:05:53.139 --> 00:05:55.860 recreate, you can't modify it to the extent you 00:05:55.860 --> 00:05:58.120 have to start from scratch each time. So I think 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:00.959 that's going to be interesting. Who's your target 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.439 audience? Is it existing podcasts? Is it brand 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:05.899 new YouTubers? Who do you think you're going 00:06:05.899 --> 00:06:08.470 to go for first? yeah so there's a few different 00:06:08.470 --> 00:06:11.069 types of outputs that you can create for what 00:06:11.069 --> 00:06:13.689 we're describing visualizing your podcast turning 00:06:13.689 --> 00:06:15.930 your podcast into a video yeah that is existing 00:06:15.930 --> 00:06:18.529 podcasters that i know personally myself many 00:06:18.529 --> 00:06:20.870 i'm sure that sam as well have been trapped in 00:06:20.870 --> 00:06:22.970 the audio medium and haven't had the opportunity 00:06:22.970 --> 00:06:26.589 to explore the more prominent video channels 00:06:26.589 --> 00:06:29.069 apart from the very easy of just like adding 00:06:29.069 --> 00:06:31.610 a static image and obviously that doesn't take 00:06:31.610 --> 00:06:34.730 you too far so there is a primary audience there 00:06:34.730 --> 00:06:37.259 and visualizing audio but apart from that, there's 00:06:37.259 --> 00:06:39.779 a couple of other use cases here in that especially 00:06:39.779 --> 00:06:43.420 for bigger organizations turning existing communication 00:06:43.420 --> 00:06:46.139 material into video, whether that's training 00:06:46.139 --> 00:06:49.319 new onboarding cohorts or enabling sales teams 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:52.519 by teaching them new information. Video is by 00:06:52.519 --> 00:06:56.600 far better than PDF in terms of teaching someone 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:58.980 new information. And the only reason why people 00:06:58.980 --> 00:07:01.259 don't have that right now is because there's 00:07:01.259 --> 00:07:03.500 friction in creating that video. So we've removed 00:07:03.500 --> 00:07:05.959 that friction and we made it very easy to create 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:08.660 video by providing some notes about what you 00:07:08.660 --> 00:07:11.779 want to convey. And then we're finding that a 00:07:11.779 --> 00:07:13.759 lot of our users, for example, the World Bank 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:16.420 has started doing that and Amazon started doing 00:07:16.420 --> 00:07:20.079 that. They are a lot more effective in communicating 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:22.000 what they want to communicate instead of doing 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:25.079 that over notes and writing. And another very 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:27.220 big use case is generally extending that, like, 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:29.480 I guess it's education, but like it's also education 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:31.779 in not just inside organizations, but education 00:07:31.779 --> 00:07:34.279 generally. We have quite a few educators on the 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:37.529 platform. that are creating educational material 00:07:37.529 --> 00:07:39.750 turning their class notes turning books turning 00:07:39.750 --> 00:07:43.329 other material into videos so that whatever age 00:07:43.329 --> 00:07:45.370 those students may be because there's like different 00:07:45.370 --> 00:07:47.449 aesthetics different visual styles that you can 00:07:47.449 --> 00:07:50.209 create your video from those students can actually 00:07:50.209 --> 00:07:53.509 engage with the content a little bit easier and 00:07:53.509 --> 00:07:56.730 make the teaching process more effective the 00:07:56.730 --> 00:07:58.889 questions regarding future direction of where 00:07:58.889 --> 00:08:02.079 wondercraft might go with this so If I look at 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:04.480 something like Riverside or Descript, they have 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:07.839 an AI component within it. So I can, like we 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:11.319 are now, I can record two people talking. I can 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:13.879 edit the transcript. I can create the video. 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:16.379 I can edit the video. I can create clips. I have 00:08:16.379 --> 00:08:19.740 AI. The same is pretty much with Riverside. So 00:08:19.740 --> 00:08:22.629 they're becoming... that start to finish type 00:08:22.629 --> 00:08:25.829 model. I call them the five P's. You can do your 00:08:25.829 --> 00:08:28.230 preparation, your production, your post -production, 00:08:28.490 --> 00:08:31.509 your promotion stuff, and then make some profit 00:08:31.509 --> 00:08:36.350 in terms of monetization. Do you see Wondercraft 00:08:36.350 --> 00:08:40.879 getting into the whole sphere of also... allowing 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:44.320 you to create like we are now and then also create 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:47.980 from that so instead of uploading the audio instead 00:08:47.980 --> 00:08:51.940 of uploading something actually you are the destination 00:08:51.940 --> 00:08:53.539 myself i'm going to go to wondercraft invite 00:08:53.539 --> 00:08:55.940 a guest write two guests create my audio and 00:08:55.940 --> 00:08:58.200 then automatically use the ai in wondercraft 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:00.899 now to create my video and create maybe clips 00:09:00.899 --> 00:09:03.059 from it and do other things where do you see 00:09:03.059 --> 00:09:05.360 wondercraft fitting in is it going to be a tool 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:09.080 as a component of other workflows, or will you 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:11.879 become the primary workflow itself? That's a 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:14.360 great question. So... To answer that question, 00:09:14.460 --> 00:09:16.980 Sam, I'll take you to who our primary audience 00:09:16.980 --> 00:09:19.340 is. It kind of touches on the previous question, 00:09:19.500 --> 00:09:22.580 which is the teams within organizations that 00:09:22.580 --> 00:09:25.460 want to create audio and video content. And we're 00:09:25.460 --> 00:09:27.580 finding that a lot of these teams don't really 00:09:27.580 --> 00:09:32.639 have the appetite or time or even equipment to 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:35.159 go through that recording process, whether it's 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:37.879 video or audio. But they do want to convey the 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:40.419 message, the story that the organization has. 00:09:40.740 --> 00:09:43.350 So we primarily focused on the... generative 00:09:43.350 --> 00:09:45.429 side. And we realized that we may be early on 00:09:45.429 --> 00:09:48.309 that. We're maybe skating where the puck is going 00:09:48.309 --> 00:09:51.070 with this product, but we are less reliant on 00:09:51.070 --> 00:09:54.779 screen recordings and what Riverside or these 00:09:54.779 --> 00:09:57.419 scripts are doing on capturing that first source 00:09:57.419 --> 00:10:01.159 and we're focusing on users making it very easy 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:03.600 for users to describe what it is that they want 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:06.480 off of their content and then us using generative 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:09.480 media to try and convey that story to the best 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:12.799 way possible again we recognize that generative 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:16.059 media in many ways is not a hundred percent where 00:10:16.059 --> 00:10:17.960 it needs to be and i can understand that some 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:20.269 of your listeners may think that what I'm describing 00:10:20.269 --> 00:10:23.409 is quote unquote slop, but there's a lot that 00:10:23.409 --> 00:10:27.009 you can do both in terms of improving the storytelling 00:10:27.009 --> 00:10:30.350 capabilities by leveraging different models and 00:10:30.350 --> 00:10:32.289 combining everything together, layering music, 00:10:32.409 --> 00:10:34.970 layering voiceovers, rather than just an eight 00:10:34.970 --> 00:10:38.009 second like Sora clip. And apart from that, you 00:10:38.009 --> 00:10:40.470 should of course expect huge improvements on 00:10:40.470 --> 00:10:43.309 generative models over the next six to 12 months 00:10:43.309 --> 00:10:46.029 that would allow even better storytelling. And 00:10:46.029 --> 00:10:49.009 we want to be the platform that. leverages that 00:10:49.009 --> 00:10:51.210 spike that increase that advancement in these 00:10:51.210 --> 00:10:53.409 models to make it very easy for you to convey 00:10:53.409 --> 00:10:56.549 your story so yeah that's that's kind of like 00:10:56.549 --> 00:10:58.490 the evolution of wondercraft in terms of like 00:10:58.490 --> 00:11:00.490 where we will be from one year from now time 00:11:00.490 --> 00:11:02.289 will tell what the product will look like exactly 00:11:02.289 --> 00:11:04.889 but what i can tell you is that it will be less 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.840 focused on the recording process and more so 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:12.240 focused on turning user thoughts into an engaging 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:15.399 story by leveraging generative media. Okay. I 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:18.000 think you've created a version for PodNews Weekly 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.360 Review that you've sent to James. So hopefully 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:23.080 people will be able to come to both our show 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:25.679 notes and also to PodNews Daily to go and see 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:27.820 a link and see how this all looks. But if I wanted 00:11:27.820 --> 00:11:30.940 to get on board now and I wanted to try it, what's 00:11:30.940 --> 00:11:33.659 the best place to go? And is there a trial version 00:11:33.659 --> 00:11:37.700 or do I have to sign up? Yeah. So that's a great 00:11:37.700 --> 00:11:39.820 question, Sam. You can go to wondercraft .ai 00:11:39.820 --> 00:11:42.179 or to go directly to the studio, go to wondercraft 00:11:42.179 --> 00:11:45.139 .ai slash studio. It's very easy for you to sign 00:11:45.139 --> 00:11:47.379 up and try it out. As part of the onboarding 00:11:47.379 --> 00:11:49.500 flow, we're going to create a video for you so 00:11:49.500 --> 00:11:51.759 you can check out what it feels like. And then 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:53.399 go ahead. The very first thing that you will 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:55.559 see when you sign up is to upload your podcast. 00:11:56.580 --> 00:11:58.899 and describe what it is that you want in terms 00:11:58.899 --> 00:12:01.580 of editing. If you just want to upload your podcast 00:12:01.580 --> 00:12:03.820 and turn it into a video, very easy, like one 00:12:03.820 --> 00:12:05.820 button and a couple of like steps in the workflow. 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:09.240 And in terms of trying it out, yes, you can try 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.580 it out. There will be some limitations. So you 00:12:11.580 --> 00:12:13.860 will most likely need to, if you want to use 00:12:13.860 --> 00:12:16.940 the full features, upgrade. But as a thank you 00:12:16.940 --> 00:12:19.019 for the invite, Sam, maybe what we can do is 00:12:19.019 --> 00:12:21.509 for anyone that's listening to this. Prior to 00:12:21.509 --> 00:12:25.370 February 20th, you can use the code SAM50. So 00:12:25.370 --> 00:12:29.629 that's SAM50. And you will get a 50 % discount 00:12:29.629 --> 00:12:32.610 on trying out WonderCraft. Nice. Last question. 00:12:32.750 --> 00:12:34.649 Is there going to be an API? I was just thinking 00:12:34.649 --> 00:12:37.190 to myself, if you wanted to automate the flow, 00:12:37.289 --> 00:12:39.230 so I create my podcast, let's say we bust out 00:12:39.230 --> 00:12:44.529 our sponsors and I publish it. Can I create WonderCraft 00:12:44.529 --> 00:12:47.509 as an endpoint destination through an API so 00:12:47.509 --> 00:12:49.730 that I don't have to manually upload each time? 00:12:50.029 --> 00:12:51.769 Yeah, there is an endpoint. We already have the 00:12:51.769 --> 00:12:54.870 endpoint, but it's not public. We are onboarding 00:12:54.870 --> 00:12:57.690 one by one the users that want to be using the 00:12:57.690 --> 00:12:59.590 API for video generation. For audio generation, 00:12:59.690 --> 00:13:01.769 it is public. but I'm guessing you're referring 00:13:01.769 --> 00:13:04.789 to video here. So whoever does want access to 00:13:04.789 --> 00:13:07.590 API, I would recommend you guys reach out to 00:13:07.590 --> 00:13:10.529 support at wondercraft .ai, explaining what it 00:13:10.529 --> 00:13:12.509 is that you're after. I'm guessing the workflow 00:13:12.509 --> 00:13:14.970 that Sam describes is a compelling one for us, 00:13:14.990 --> 00:13:17.370 so we'd be happy to enable it for you guys. So 00:13:17.370 --> 00:13:19.289 yeah, describe what it is that you want off the 00:13:19.289 --> 00:13:22.049 endpoint and off the API access, and we'll try 00:13:22.049 --> 00:13:24.330 to make it happen for you. Congratulations. I 00:13:24.330 --> 00:13:27.070 think everyone should go and try it. SAM50, that's 00:13:27.070 --> 00:13:29.240 the discount code. Amazing. Thank you, Sam, for 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:30.720 the invite. Always a pleasure to chat to you 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:32.620 and congrats on the news on your end as well. 00:13:32.740 --> 00:13:34.600 I'm very happy to be seeing Colton. That's very 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:36.659 kind. Thank you so much. See you soon, mate.