1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,060 My friends, I want to welcome you back to the Sheepget Sheared podcast. 2 00:00:04,060 --> 00:00:06,760 I'm Austin Creed, your host. 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:11,840 Normally I do the show by myself, but today I have a special guest. 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:17,600 I have my girlfriend on the show today, and we're going to make some, you know, I think 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,840 I'm curious to hear what you got to say about hard choices in life because you and I have 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,720 both made some, you know, weird different choices. 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,520 Like for example, you're younger than me, you left your home to come kind of travel 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,880 and do the job that we're doing now. 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,400 And a lot of it, I'm sure wasn't easy because I mean, you come out this from a different 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,400 point of view than I do. 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,360 And so that's why I wanted you to talk about this subject in particular. 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,320 You want to introduce yourself or do you want me to do it? 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,320 You want me to do it? 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,240 So my girlfriend is named, her name is Reagan. 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,400 She's from Kansas. 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,840 We, so we're currently in Georgia. 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,600 I mentioned that in previous shows because we're storm chasing for a roofing job. 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,600 But what's interesting to me is I met her when I first started doing this business out 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,160 in Kansas city. 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,760 And when I told her that I was leaving because the hurricane hit Georgia, I was like, you 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:10,760 know what? 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,760 I got to go chase a storm. 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,200 There's more money involved in it. 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,200 And a lot of people need help. 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:22,120 And when I told her that I was leaving, she didn't respond the way I was expecting. 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,240 You know, most of the time when you tell somebody you're leaving and your relationships kind 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,480 of new, you usually don't like, oh, wow, oh, that's, that's a bummer. 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,480 Wow. 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,160 You know, that's too bad, but I'm not going to hold you back, you know, have a nice life, 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,720 you know, goodbye. 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,120 That's not how it played out. 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,800 And you had to make a really hard choice. 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:46,280 You had to decide whether you were going to come with me or you were going to stay where 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,800 you grew up with your friends and your family. 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:54,120 So you've told me multiple times it wasn't an easy thing for you to do. 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,200 It was something that you were very emotional about because you were conflicted. 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,080 So I want you to you want to tell me, tell me what the thought process was or was it 38 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,520 mostly an emotional decision? 39 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,560 I feel like it was very interesting. 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:20,080 It was in a time in my life where I was like looking for a fresh start, so when you, Georgia, 41 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:26,280 I was like, I bet, let's go. 42 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:32,120 But for me to make that decision, it really was just like, I cried a lot and then I was 43 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,280 like, all right, let's do this. 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:43,480 It wasn't that hard of a decision for me to make minus like my family, which was a little 45 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,920 difficult towards the closer that it got to us actually leaving. 46 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:49,920 It makes sense. 47 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:50,920 It makes sense. 48 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:53,280 But here's what I'm trying to understand. 49 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,960 I come at it from normally a term of I make all kinds of like pros and cons lists in my 50 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,960 head. 51 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:04,440 You've seen me do it before where I'm like, OK, there's a pro here on this choice. 52 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,600 There's a con here on that choice, but there's also a pro on that choice over here. 53 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,320 I like to make sure that, OK, what's the right course of action? 54 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,000 And by the term, right, it's super subjective, right? 55 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Right. 56 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,480 But at the same time, it's something that in the back of your mind, you're like, I need 57 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,480 to make the right choice. 58 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,120 And I think a lot of other people would agree with that. 59 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,560 They want to make the right choice, but then they don't know what that is. 60 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:34,800 I feel like person I've always done whatever makes me happy. 61 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,200 I've always been a day by day. 62 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,880 See, and that's why part of the reason why I wanted you and I to discuss this together, 63 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,040 because I don't come at it from that perspective. 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,960 And we've had those conversations before of I'm more in the mindset of, hey, I need 65 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:48,960 to sacrifice. 66 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,080 I don't care about how I feel necessarily. 67 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,880 I might want to want to do something a little more in that moment than others. 68 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,360 But that doesn't mean that just because I want it in that moment, I'm going to want 69 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,360 it next week or next month or next year. 70 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,160 And that's a thought that crosses my mind. 71 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,640 I'm not immediately going to jump to the next thing because I'm not focused on whatever 72 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,400 is making me happy in that moment. 73 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,120 That's what I should do. 74 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,080 I'm not necessarily saying that that can't get you to your goals. 75 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,360 I'm saying that that's not how I come from it. 76 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,000 And so when you were explaining how you like we had a whole conversation about happiness, 77 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,280 remember, we had this whole conversation and it was interesting to me because we actually 78 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:31,120 were saying similar things just in different ways. 79 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,120 Yeah. 80 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,000 For example, you were talking about how making like you actually I'll let you say it. 81 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,160 We were talking about happiness in the past. 82 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:43,720 What you were talking about if you don't feel happy, then you shouldn't be alive. 83 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,720 Is that correct? 84 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:45,720 Oh, yeah. 85 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:52,800 Because you can't like. 86 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:59,120 It was one of those conversations that was very it was explained in a way that I didn't 87 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,240 understand. 88 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,600 And so when you explained it to me, though, it started to make more sense. 89 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:10,080 But the problem was I come at it from such a perspective of happiness to me is it's 90 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,080 fleeting. 91 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,440 It's something that I don't care about every second because I don't expect to be happy. 92 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,440 I want to be fulfilled. 93 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,000 I want to look back and say I grinded. 94 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,440 I did things I necessarily didn't like, but it got me to where I'm happy and I like where 95 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,160 I am versus I feel happy. 96 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,720 Happy kind of like it's rationed. 97 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,600 Like happiness is going to be very fleeting and you're going to have hits of it. 98 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,160 It's like it's like if you have if you smoke or drink or anything like that, when you get 99 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,680 that first hit, you're like, wow, this is great. 100 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:37,680 I like this. 101 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,800 But it slowly fades and you need another hit again. 102 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,440 That's how happiness kind of works at least for me. 103 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,800 And I think a lot of other people would frankly agree with that. 104 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,560 So how how do you manage to get towards your goals? 105 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Is there anything you use that strategy where you kind of get a hit, but wean and then get 106 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,200 a hit again versus just saying, I don't care about it. 107 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,400 I'm going to keep going forward. 108 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,720 I feel like you have to make sure that yourself is happy. 109 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,200 Make sure that everyone around you is happy. 110 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,200 I live day by day. 111 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,440 Tomorrow isn't a comment. 112 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:21,080 So you have to kind of find a little bit of happiness within the world tomorrow going 113 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:26,960 to be like, wow, yesterday really sucked and I didn't do anything to find something I enjoy 114 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,960 of you. 115 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,960 It's interesting because I've never heard to explain that way until I met you because 116 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:42,120 when I think about in those terms, I think I got to always kind of be happy, which can 117 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:48,520 lead you to dangerous places and lead you to being more hedonistic in your hard choices 118 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:53,200 and become more like a, well, if it feels good, I'm going to do it and that can lead 119 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,120 you to dark places, but it can also lead you to good choices. 120 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,800 It's all about how you choose to handle it. 121 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,480 There are multiple different philosophies about hard choices. 122 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,800 Yours was one I really heard explained before. 123 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,760 Mine is one that I've encountered in my life, military and so on and so forth. 124 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,000 There's ones that are even as funny as you know what flippism is. 125 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,880 You ever heard of that before? 126 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,560 Flip is the idea and it was actually created by I think it was by Walt Disney. 127 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,400 It was the idea in a Donald Duck comic that every hard choice you make in your life is 128 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,080 decided by the flipping of a coin. 129 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:32,640 Like you choose heads or tails and ironically enough, it's actually used in the United States 130 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:33,640 government. 131 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,840 So, for example, in the election of 1800, I'll go down a rabbit hole. 132 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:38,840 Why not? 133 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,280 I'll go down a little rabbit hole here for a second. 134 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:48,600 In the 1800 election, Burr versus Jefferson, what happened was they both got 73 electoral 135 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,600 votes. 136 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:54,600 That was the time then, like at 270 is now, to win. 137 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,000 And the founding fathers had never encountered that before. 138 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Country was young. 139 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,640 They had no idea what to do. 140 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:05,040 So what they did was they decided the past of 12th Amendment, which was if there's a 141 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:11,040 deadlock and the states do not certify the election, what happens is the House chooses 142 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,760 the president and the Senate chooses the vice president through a vote. 143 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:23,640 But if they deadlock, what happens is they flip a coin to choose who is president and 144 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,600 who is not. 145 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,600 It is crazy. 146 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,600 It's very crazy. 147 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,040 And here's the interesting part is why in the like they're kind of almost lazy to a 148 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,720 certain extent, passing a thing like that, because you kind of sometimes got to just 149 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:37,720 hope for the best. 150 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,600 That's where I'm going with the story is to some extent, people who are very politically 151 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,600 in crime. 152 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,120 We talk about politics on the show. 153 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,880 People are very politically passionate in a lot of ways, but the founding fathers didn't 154 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,560 lay out everything because they're not God. 155 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:51,800 They're not all seeing dudes from the future. 156 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,720 They don't know what's always going to happen. 157 00:08:53,720 --> 00:09:00,120 So you can't always prepare for everything, and so there's something elegantly, you know, 158 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,600 kind of evil slash classy about the idea of flipping a coin and making a decision. 159 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:11,000 Very simple, but also liberating at the same time. 160 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:18,160 And I compare that to your idea of happiness because a lot of men were not told that. 161 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,920 We're not told to pursue happiness because happiness is fleeting and it's not going to 162 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,320 get us to where we want to go. 163 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,440 It kind of highlights the difference between men and women today. 164 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,880 A lot of times women can have that attitude and win. 165 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:33,600 I've never met a man who can have that attitude and win. 166 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,360 I just I'm not saying they don't exist. 167 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,440 I'm saying I have never personally encountered that. 168 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,960 So like how, how would you say that that's worked for you to get you towards your goals, 169 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,760 even though you live day by day? 170 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:54,040 I feel like you can always have goals and things that you want to do in life, but you 171 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:59,120 always have to prioritize doing just one thing a day that makes you happy. 172 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,760 But make sure that you're living life to the point because you can't get to those dreams 173 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:12,160 if you're constantly in the state of arrest, depressed, anxiety, so all these different 174 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:19,160 feelings that you have day to day and you can't get there if you're not prioritizing 175 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,480 for happiness of being. 176 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,080 Well, the reason I like this conversation so much is because a lot of people suffer 177 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,080 from burnout. 178 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,080 I've suffered from it. 179 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,920 Arguably, I'm kind of going through it right now at this moment, but also I've had friends 180 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,880 go through it where they're just like, I loved it last week. 181 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,520 I even liked it a couple of days ago and now I just, I hate it. 182 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,440 I can't do it anymore. 183 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:45,040 And so when you talk about this idea of finding something that you actually enjoy every day, 184 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:50,320 even if it's just one thing like going to your favorite coffee shop or going to the 185 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:58,080 park or you have a dog playing with your dog, like something simple and produce happiness. 186 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,680 And we didn't have a whole lot of prep before the show because I didn't want, I want it 187 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:02,680 to be organic. 188 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:03,680 I like to be a conversation. 189 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:06,160 Have you ever heard of a guy named Lin Yu Tang before? 190 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,280 No, I don't hear. 191 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:15,800 So Lin Yu Tang was a Chinese philosopher and he wrote a book called The Importance of Living. 192 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:21,160 And his whole philosophy wasn't happiness is in the flights of poets and understanding 193 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,640 the complexities of the universe. 194 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,120 His idea of happiness was getting your hair cut every two weeks and watching your neighbor 195 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,120 fall off the roof. 196 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,120 Real. 197 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,120 Yeah. 198 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,120 That's what I'm saying. 199 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,640 His whole thing about how he has a whole chapter about lying in bed and how that makes 200 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:35,640 you happy. 201 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,960 And his whole chapter about like little moments in time because he was holed up in a monastery 202 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:46,040 for like two weeks because of rain and he was raised by Christian missionaries in China, 203 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,520 but then he was very atheistic and whatever throughout his entire life. 204 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:51,640 He's like a normal person. 205 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:56,080 Most people don't start with one belief and end their life never changing it, never questioning 206 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,080 it or anything like that. 207 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,080 Right. 208 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,640 One of the hard choices we make in life is whether to go with what our parents taught 209 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,760 us or to do something completely different or somewhere in between. 210 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,440 And so when you when you read the book like this, you describe the idea of like cutting 211 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,640 your watermelon on a bright sunny warm day. 212 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,040 That's all is just not happiness. 213 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:18,160 Like that's like letting a fly out of a room that was annoying you. 214 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,160 That's happiness. 215 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:24,640 Like little things like that that normally you'd like you would never think about that. 216 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,120 You think about being happy. 217 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,840 It's like, oh, I got my dream job. 218 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,680 Oh, I got my dream relationship partner. 219 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:32,120 Oh, I got my dream car. 220 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Like I'm so happy. 221 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,120 Wow. 222 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,920 And I'm like, they think that that's what they need. 223 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:43,360 Not cutting a watermelon or getting your hair cut or scratching an itch on, you know, somewhere 224 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,360 in your body and having it go away. 225 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:50,120 Like little things like that people overlook because they're so busy with their lives. 226 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,320 They have so many things going on that they don't stop and almost smell the roses and 227 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,320 understand the simple pleasures of life. 228 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,720 I have day to day. 229 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:08,080 And I finding myself that I need something that's going to bring even if it's just a 230 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:17,320 tiny bit of happiness doesn't necessarily need this like huge, you know, life changing 231 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,320 thing. 232 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,400 But waking up brushing my hair makes me happy. 233 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,000 No, like hitting my nails makes me happy. 234 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:30,400 You know, things like that, being making the bed, you know, like simple things like that 235 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:38,080 can make somebody happy and really that serotonin to keep you going. 236 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:44,560 Because if you don't the serotonin going, then you're just not going to like feel the 237 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:46,720 best and do us. 238 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,440 I 100% agree with that. 239 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,440 It's like, but again, I didn't think about that when you explain it the way you explain 240 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,440 it. 241 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:58,160 You know, we go on Tiktok, Instagram, Facebook, X, whatever. 242 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,840 And then we'll hear people say what you said the first time when you and I had this conversation 243 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:07,480 about being happy every day to some extent, like finding something that you enjoy that 244 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,480 makes you happy. 245 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,560 And they'll be like, oh, that's so stupid. 246 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:13,600 Like they'll explain it in a way that people won't accept. 247 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,560 They won't be like, oh, let's have a conversation like this and understand where we're coming 248 00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:18,560 from. 249 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:19,560 Yeah. 250 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:25,320 You know, going to Starbucks and getting a $15 coffee or it could be something $15 on 251 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,320 coffee is ridiculous. 252 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,320 Okay. 253 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:29,320 Okay. 254 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,320 I'm using it as an example. 255 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,480 I'm just saying like, it's the idea that that's one small thing that we are like, oh, 256 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,080 you know, that wasn't awful. 257 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,520 I didn't feel like, oh, God, I got to do this again. 258 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,280 Like it was something that you actually kind of enjoyed doing a little bit. 259 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:48,120 Like I'll speak for myself a lot of times, especially in our job that we do, it's very 260 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,960 monotonous, very high stress, and I don't have those moments. 261 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,320 That's why you burn out if you don't have those moments. 262 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:02,200 And a lot of times in our job, but we have the sales aspect of our job, it can be very 263 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,200 much like that. 264 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,200 Wow, I got a sale. 265 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,200 That's so great. 266 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,480 Oh, I got a homeowner that's working with me. 267 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,280 Oh, it's so great. 268 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,040 But you're not going to have that every day. 269 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Right. 270 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,800 And so every day when you go out and knock doors, you call people, you send out emails, 271 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,360 whatever, you're going to be like, wow, I didn't get nothing today or I didn't get the 272 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:19,880 results I wanted today. 273 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:20,880 Wow. 274 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:21,880 That's really discouraging. 275 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,080 I don't like this. 276 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,880 Now I got to make a hard choice. 277 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,720 Do I want to do this anymore? 278 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:28,720 You know, and so. 279 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:34,720 But then after those rough days that you have of like, no one wanted to talk to me that 280 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:42,360 day or I didn't get a signature or, you know, all these, I didn't get a job set up today. 281 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,360 No stuff like that. 282 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Right. 283 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,240 Is that your mother again? 284 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,240 No. 285 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:59,480 You have to almost come home and find something that you and like for me, I color. 286 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:00,480 I have a rough day. 287 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,480 I color. 288 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:02,480 Because that makes me happy. 289 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,880 She's pretty good at it, by the way. 290 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,040 I've seen some of her Harry Potter stuff. 291 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,040 It's not too bad. 292 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:17,760 You have to like find something that is that anxiety, that stress, that all those emotions 293 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,280 regardless of you're allowing yourself to. 294 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,720 Because you do and it takes a toll on your brain. 295 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:30,800 If you don't give your brain some kind of cortisol, you're just going to sit in that 296 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:38,520 breast and up in that state of, wow, I hate, wow, my life sucks because you're not actually 297 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,120 finding any to release that serotonin. 298 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,920 I'm not saying. 299 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,960 No, no, I hear what you're saying. 300 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:52,600 But like you have to do that so that you don't reach that level of burnout. 301 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,160 So I 100% agree. 302 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,280 And I think that's why a lot of people, they hate their life. 303 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,280 They turn to drugs. 304 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,280 They turn to alcohol. 305 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,920 They turn to outside substances. 306 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,480 Could even be, hey, I don't like the way I look in the gym. 307 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:10,560 And so instead of taking in a slow pace to naturally improve, they want to take shortcuts. 308 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:15,640 They'll take psalms, steroids, you know, all kinds of stuff to try to expedite the process 309 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,480 in the same way that people want to get rich quick. 310 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,720 They don't want to grind. 311 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,840 They don't want to do things that take time. 312 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,320 Everybody wants to win yesterday. 313 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,800 People don't want to wait, pay their dues and whatnot. 314 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,000 Like I was having this conversation with my best friend. 315 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,440 I think I told us about, you know, what I was talking with Ben, who's made me listening 316 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,440 to the show. 317 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:34,440 I don't know. 318 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,480 You were talking about this idea that our parents, especially if we live in like middle 319 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:44,720 class, upper middle class, whatever, we see our parents when we're like, what, 10, 15 320 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,040 years old, and we start to actually care about what our parents are doing in their life, 321 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,560 like how they got where they are. 322 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:55,320 That's 10 to 15 years where they were grinding and we didn't see it. 323 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,320 Yeah. 324 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,000 So the equivalent to, you know, you don't talk to your best friend who you, you know, 325 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,120 we both talk to pretty much every day. 326 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:04,720 You didn't talk to her for like 15 years. 327 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,320 And the next time you talk, you're owning your own hair salon and you're making a lot 328 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,320 of money. 329 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,320 Wow. 330 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,320 How'd you do it? 331 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:12,320 Right. 332 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,320 They didn't see the day by day of all this failed. 333 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,320 That didn't work out. 334 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,920 I kind of got that win, but it wasn't really a win. 335 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,320 Like they didn't see all the struggle you went through. 336 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,000 They just saw the result and they assumed that like you were all, you were winning the whole 337 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,000 time. 338 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Right. 339 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,360 And so that's something I've had to see for myself. 340 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:29,840 Like I look at my parents, you've met my parents. 341 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,160 I've seen my friends, parents and whatnot. 342 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,680 They do pretty well for themselves. 343 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,600 But the problem is you don't see when they were down bad living on a futon. 344 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,960 You know, you don't see when they were making an investment. 345 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,560 The investment totally dropped and they're like, wow, well, I do now. 346 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,680 Like I have no idea what to do. 347 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,400 You see them when they've made three bad choices, but then they made one really good choice. 348 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:53,400 Now they're winning. 349 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,360 They're starting to win. 350 00:18:55,360 --> 00:19:00,160 The same thing like with your mother's a little different than mine, but she was alone. 351 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,160 She was a single mom. 352 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,320 She had to make it work. 353 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,560 I guarantee you she didn't enjoy every second of it. 354 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,920 I'm sure it was very difficult for her. 355 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,480 But you look back, you look at her now and you're like, wow, she's a strong lady. 356 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,440 She's done all these things for me and you're starting to appreciate it now. 357 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:16,960 And we don't do that when we're kids. 358 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,480 Yeah, we don't do that when we're kids. 359 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:23,120 We don't see that because we see everything else because our parents are old fogies and 360 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:24,120 they're boring. 361 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:29,080 You know, nobody sees that the same way that you see people on Instagram or whatever and 362 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,120 they make a lot of money and they're like, wow, how did you get to that point? 363 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:36,160 Well, they made or what they made one choice when they were young and they stuck with it. 364 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,760 Yeah, they didn't do five things and fail. 365 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,080 And then they're like, well, I don't know what the hell to do now. 366 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,600 That's something you can't win if you take that route. 367 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,200 But it's just not as obvious. 368 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,200 Yeah. 369 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:53,640 So when it comes to hard choices in life, we come to two very different we come at two 370 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,880 very different angles to fix the problem. 371 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:56,880 Yeah. 372 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:02,440 Like you mentioned to me, I think one of your hardest choices was choosing to move away from 373 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,440 your friends and your family. 374 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,960 I don't want to put words in your mouth, but that would make a lot of sense. 375 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,800 And what was the ultimate? 376 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,240 Like at which point did you realize exactly what you wanted? 377 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,840 What was the tipping point for you? 378 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,040 I don't really know. 379 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:26,880 Like to be honest, it was kind of like, I didn't like how I felt when you told me you were 380 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,080 leaving. 381 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:36,520 So I took it into my own hands and decided that I was going to help you make the world 382 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,160 a better place. 383 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:47,200 So for me, it was just like flip of a switch and nothing like really made me lean that 384 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,240 way or not lean that way. 385 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,320 It just kind of like popped into my head and sound like a good idea. 386 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,320 You mean flip a coin? 387 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,320 No. 388 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,200 Just whatever my head told me to do, I went with it. 389 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,600 You know, there's an aspect of this we haven't talked about yet and then I just realized 390 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,600 this. 391 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,240 Something with people were in your way. 392 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:16,400 Who are haters, who are very not even necessarily haters, but they are going to put little seeds 393 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,400 of doubt everywhere that you go, everything that you do and whatnot. 394 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,280 Like we've had that a lot in our relationship. 395 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:28,520 And it's one of those things that I've always, I'm never a bit surprised by, but I've always 396 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,280 wondered why. 397 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,600 Because when my friends do things I don't agree with, my first thought isn't, oh, I'm going 398 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,600 to bag on this. 399 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,600 I'm going to let them have it. 400 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,560 I'm going to be like, why? 401 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,680 Why did you choose to do this? 402 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,520 You had a hard choice to make. 403 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:49,800 Why did you choose the choice that you chose versus the other path you had available to 404 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,800 you? 405 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,200 Why did you choose to do that? 406 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,160 Most people don't do that. 407 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:02,160 Most people say, wow, I wouldn't have made that choice, so therefore that choice sucks. 408 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:09,680 They don't say, huh, you know, I could learn something here if I shut up and listen or 409 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:17,440 if I ask the right question and then proceed to listen to it instead of saying, wow, not 410 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,000 the choice I would have made, so therefore I'm right, they're wrong. 411 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,040 They don't know what they're talking about. 412 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,280 You need more hair ties? 413 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:33,040 She's braining her hair in, what are those, those are Dutch braids, right? 414 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,040 The regular braids? 415 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,520 I just... 416 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:44,720 Yeah, she got her hair done somewhat recently and she's getting used to having it be longer 417 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,160 than normal, so it's... 418 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:54,120 My hair has never quite been this long in my life and I love it, but it definitely does 419 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:59,600 get in my way sometimes, so it's easy to just pop it in a couple braids or a couple pigtails 420 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,600 or ponytail. 421 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:06,720 The last few days, it's been in a bun, so I was like, maybe I should try something different. 422 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,280 My hair didn't like that very much. 423 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,400 Would you classify that as a hard choice? 424 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:21,520 No, just because it's just like I fidgeted with my hair and ended up braiding it. 425 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,520 So... 426 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:29,640 Well, I mean, even right now, as I speak, we've mentioned it a couple times thus far of when 427 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,360 we have doubt, especially with doubt of what we're doing right now. 428 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:38,640 I'm doubting a wrestle with some hard choices because personally, you and I have talked about 429 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,640 this. 430 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:47,200 The idea of flying really appeals to me and I know people who've wanted to do that and 431 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,600 they're doing it and they love it. 432 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,520 It's a one and done. 433 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,360 They don't need to worry about, oh, do I want to ship my career or their shows as well as 434 00:23:55,360 --> 00:24:00,080 real experiences of people doing one job for 20 years, they retire and then they start 435 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,880 doing a whole other career. 436 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,720 It's totally different, but they have that money from the retirement and whatnot to make 437 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,680 that switch. 438 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,240 As us, we're in a little more of a we're now we're still in our 20s, you're in your early 439 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,680 20s, I'm in my mid 20s, we're in a very interesting situation. 440 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,200 And so we don't have that luxury. 441 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,200 And so when we... 442 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,200 Your vintage. 443 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,200 Oh, OK. 444 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,720 She's been on this kick ever since I turned 25. 445 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,160 She's like, your vintage, babe. 446 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,760 If you look at the definition of vintage, it is anything over 25 years. 447 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,280 So he entered his. 448 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:47,880 So when I see, when I hear vintage, I see a dude from like the 80s with a motorcycle, 449 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:54,480 Ray Bans and like a leather jacket that that's vintage to you and I. 450 00:24:54,480 --> 00:25:00,480 But just remember that there's kids who were born in 2000 and 20. 451 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,480 Oh, I know. 452 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,960 Now, now your vintage. 453 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,000 No, one of my buddies who's young, a little younger than me, he's got two kids. 454 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,000 I've told you about him. 455 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Yeah. 456 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,520 He's I understand it. 457 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,520 I don't know. 458 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,520 I don't know. 459 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,520 Side track. 460 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,240 I don't know how people decide to have kids in this day and age this early on because 461 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,040 of all the the economy sucks. 462 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,040 This economy. 463 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,080 And I don't blame Trump because he's barely been in office thus far. 464 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,000 But here's what I don't get. 465 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,400 How do people just jump into doing that? 466 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,920 Like that's a hard choice. 467 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,280 And they just kind of jump into it. 468 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,320 I don't tend to just jump into things. 469 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,320 I sense a lie. 470 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,080 I've been a couple of times and a lot of times it works out in some ways and really 471 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,240 doesn't work out in other ones. 472 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:50,520 Well, if you ask most people, 90 percent of that first kid is not on purpose. 473 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,920 Oh, now we're going in a whole other direction. 474 00:25:52,920 --> 00:26:01,320 Like they it wasn't on purpose, but it was an accident. 475 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:07,240 I bless me and I was called an accident because I'm the first born blessing and no, I think 476 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,920 you're calling me an accident. 477 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,520 Well, I can't relate to that because I'm a middle kid. 478 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,120 And I was planned unlike my older brother. 479 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:19,120 He was not planned. 480 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:21,640 The older brother who's what, like eight years older than you. 481 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,640 Yeah. 482 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,640 Yeah. 483 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,640 So I mean, okay. 484 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,640 Those are superior. 485 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,640 That way. 486 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:33,640 No, his face just changed. 487 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:39,640 It was ridiculous. 488 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,560 The answer to that is no. 489 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,440 That's not what you told our coworker the other day. 490 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,760 And she remembers that, by the way. 491 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,760 What? 492 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,840 Remember what you said at dinner like three weeks ago? 493 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,520 And you're like, oh, you know, he's right about like 90 percent of the things that he 494 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,520 says. 495 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,160 That's true, though. 496 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,680 But you also have to remember that like, we have like five more years of experience 497 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,960 in the world than I do. 498 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,040 So yeah, 90 percent of the time he is right. 499 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,360 I had Ivan 25 right now and he was 25. 500 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:14,200 It probably been a whole different situation. 501 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,040 No, no, I think it wouldn't. 502 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,680 I think it'd be about the same. 503 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,680 Yeah, I do. 504 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,480 That's fine. 505 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,480 Oh, really? 506 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,360 Oh, I don't know about that. 507 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:31,360 But was. 508 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,520 I'm joking. 509 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,960 Most of the time I'd agree with that. 510 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,920 Sometimes though, you have your moments. 511 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,360 You're just like your mother sometimes. 512 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:44,160 Yep. 513 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,080 But you know, I didn't intend for this episode to be almost 30 minutes, but I think our conversation 514 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,080 just naturally kind of flows. 515 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,040 So I'd forgotten how much time it even passed. 516 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,600 It really has been 30 minutes. 517 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,600 Yeah, almost what? 518 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,680 It's been like almost 28 minutes. 519 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,360 But you see that that's the interesting part about the conversation. 520 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:02,840 Like this is easy. 521 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:03,840 Talk about the hard. 522 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,040 It's easy to talk about hard choices. 523 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,320 It's not always easy to make the hard choices. 524 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,320 It's easy to talk about. 525 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:14,200 Yes, it's easy to talk about because everybody has a different process in which they decide 526 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,360 to make those tough choices in their life, whether they want to put a coin like that 527 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:21,000 on Doc or they want to make a pros and cons list or they want to say, what makes me happy? 528 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,680 I mean, then there's the list could go on. 529 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,680 There's always something that you said, there's always something that you could do differently 530 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,920 or something you think you maybe should do differently, but you don't always know the 531 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,680 right place. 532 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,120 So I leave the question to you, the audience, what would what do you do when you have to 533 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:38,320 make a hard choice? 534 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,560 Because I take it in the more pragmatic approach. 535 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,360 You take more of the, I would say, almost hedonist approach, but I wouldn't say that 536 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,880 yellow approach, a yellow approach. 537 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,400 Yeah, you should trademark that. 538 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,400 That's pretty good. 539 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,720 I can't trademark. 540 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,720 You hear that on TikTok? 541 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,720 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 542 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,720 Like, did you hear that on TikTok? 543 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,720 Because that's cheap. 544 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,720 What? 545 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:58,720 The yellow approach? 546 00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,720 Yeah. 547 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,560 No, I just came up with my. 548 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,560 That's pretty good. 549 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,800 We're keeping that one. 550 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,800 That's pretty good. 551 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,800 Okay. 552 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,280 Why don't I feel old hearing the word yellow? 553 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,520 Do kids even know what that means anymore? 554 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,520 Yeah. 555 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,520 You heard that? 556 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,520 Because what? 557 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,520 You only live once. 558 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,400 Yeah, but like that was a thing in like the 2010s, especially. 559 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,120 But it's still like, it's still a thing. 560 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,720 Like I have friends who are like, because I just graduated a year and a half ago, but 561 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:31,760 like I high school and I have friends who are still in high school and they have friends 562 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,600 who are obviously still in high school. 563 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,680 So, and they use yellow all the time. 564 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,400 Maybe it's one of those surges. 565 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,480 You know how like the 80s become relevant sometimes in fashion, 90s and stuff like that? 566 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,720 Maybe that's coming back. 567 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,000 But it's same with hags. 568 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,640 Or if you're a Miss Paul, it's Heffers. 569 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,360 No, no, no, hags like have a great summer. 570 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,560 Oh, I thought you were talking about it in different, what did it different? 571 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,000 No, have a great summer. 572 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,000 That's still something that. 573 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,360 Oh God, I remember the yearbook days. 574 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,760 I actually was, did you know I was in yearbook when I high school. 575 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,760 Did you know that? 576 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,760 I was too. 577 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,760 I was the only guy in yearbook. 578 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,760 My first year. 579 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,360 We had way more guys than we did girls in yearbook. 580 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,360 Really? 581 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,200 I was the only dude in my junior year of yearbook. 582 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,200 That's crazy. 583 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,000 The only, I was a token male. 584 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,720 You want to talk about DEI? 585 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:28,720 I was the token white male in my class of mostly Asian, white and Indian girls in my 586 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,840 high school. 587 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,280 So it was one of those funny things where I didn't know that until I joined the class 588 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,040 and I was like, wow, I just stay here. 589 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,560 The getting's good. 590 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,560 That was not a hard choice. 591 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,560 That one was pretty easy. 592 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,280 And even an elective, I was the only dude in the class. 593 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,880 I'm like, I'll take it. 594 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,600 I think one of my hardest choices, honest, was I knew I'd go back to soccer after I 595 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,600 hurt my knee. 596 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,640 Because you were a goalie in high school? 597 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:15,400 I, well, I played soccer for, so ever since I was, I'd say I played soccer for, and I 598 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,240 hurt my knee my sophomore year. 599 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:27,360 I was playing goalie, but I also played outside and defender, which I don't like playing. 600 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,920 But nobody likes playing defense. 601 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,520 Even when I play basketball, defense is boring. 602 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,280 Well, they were realized really quickly that if they put me as a defender, I'm going to 603 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,160 be a second goal. 604 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,280 So they stopped doing that. 605 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:48,520 Well, I hurt my knee, had to get knee surgery, and then I still decided two years later, 606 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:55,520 finish out my high school experience on the girls soccer team. 607 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,920 And I ended up still, I ended up hurting my knee again. 608 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,320 But here's, here's the interesting. 609 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,600 Soccer is one of the few sports that's like kind of mainstream. 610 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,600 That's mainstream. 611 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,720 I don't really know much about. 612 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,200 Because in America, especially there are bigger sports to play. 613 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:19,960 And if you're in Europe or Africa or South America, who is the way to go? 614 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,400 It still is the way to go. 615 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,960 But what I'm saying is like, if I, as a taller dude was never told, hey, you should play soccer 616 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,160 and play goalie. 617 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,400 I played water polo. 618 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,600 I played volleyball. 619 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,400 I played basketball. 620 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,760 And I did not ever consider playing soccer once. 621 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,140 But I don't really know all that much about it. 622 00:32:37,140 --> 00:32:42,400 So when you talk about it, I'm learning something too, because I don't know the link. 623 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,040 I barely even watched the World Cup. 624 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,360 I don't even know that much really to care. 625 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,200 All I know is when I'm around people who are watching it, it'll be dead as silent. 626 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,600 And then all of a sudden, whoa, whoa, it's crazy. 627 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,800 Like the goal scored and it's like, what just happened? 628 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,040 Like everybody just went from zero to 100. 629 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,240 That's one of my favorite things about soccer. 630 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:13,080 But it's a very calm sport to some extent when you're watching it until you like see 631 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,080 the goal happen. 632 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,680 And then you're like, whoa, because something usually really cool by the goalie or cool kick 633 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:25,080 or some kind of trick was put into place to get that goal. 634 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,560 But when you're on the field, it's a whole different situation. 635 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:35,600 Like it's so go, go, go, go, go, watch yourself because someone can flip that ball around 636 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,680 and like like that. 637 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:46,440 Like all I'll say is I never played soccer, but the one time when you and I were kind 638 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,840 of messing around playing soccer, I scored on you pretty relatively easily. 639 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:56,840 So I mean, you also have to remember that I am not in the same shape that I was when 640 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,840 I was playing. 641 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,080 You all the excuses. 642 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:08,040 Also the goal was how big it was small, which makes it easier for you as a defender. 643 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,560 No, because I'm not a defender. 644 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:16,800 I'm a bully slash outside midfielder, which is one, two, four. 645 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,760 Didn't I tell you all the excuses would be just not coming? 646 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,480 That's like, that's like you scoring on me and basketball. 647 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:30,440 And they be like, well, you see what happened was and then immediately being like, oh, it 648 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,440 doesn't matter. 649 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,440 It doesn't matter. 650 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,440 It doesn't matter. 651 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,440 I don't know. 652 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,360 I think I also wasn't. 653 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,040 Fight you to kind of have. 654 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,840 Oh, miscompetitive wasn't feeling competitive. 655 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,360 Not at that current moment now. 656 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,320 I'm just giving you a hard time. 657 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,680 Yeah, I know. 658 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:04,320 But you know, I appreciate your willingness to talk about hard choices because obviously 659 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:09,840 we've done a lot in a relatively short period of time when it comes to life changes, hard 660 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:15,480 life choices, currently, you know, making another potentially hard choice like all of 661 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,640 these things. 662 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,160 And so I think it's something we can easily talk about again. 663 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,520 I know that you're not used to speaking to a microphone. 664 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,280 You don't like public speaking very much. 665 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,680 This wasn't so bad. 666 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,240 Was it was as scary as you were expecting? 667 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,200 No, it was just weird. 668 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,200 What's weird? 669 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:38,800 Like talking, like having a conversation, but also having a microphone to your face. 670 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,800 Like that's weird. 671 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,800 Wow. 672 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:48,040 Is it I guess for me, it's not weird because I've done it so many times, but I could see 673 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:53,040 at the beginning it's kind of weird, but it's a lot harder when you're doing it by yourself 674 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,960 versus when you're doing it with other people because then we go down rabbit holes. 675 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,960 We've gone on rabbit holes in the conversation we have right now. 676 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:00,960 Yeah. 677 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:01,960 But that's normal. 678 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,760 People's brains do that all the time. 679 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,560 And you've got someone with ADHD. 680 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,480 So I'm gonna run for honey. 681 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,480 I go around all the time. 682 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,240 People who listen to the show will tell you that I do that and I love it because people's 683 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:16,320 brains work that way. 684 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,520 I don't know how people watch Fox News or any of these other organizations where like 685 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,600 they get on a blackboard and they're like, all right, everybody, here's what we're gonna 686 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,600 talk about this, this, this and this. 687 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:26,600 And that's all they do. 688 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,400 They don't talk about what they did that day. 689 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,760 They don't talk about what they're interested in. 690 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,040 They don't go down rabbit holes. 691 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,560 Like it kind of gives you like a breather. 692 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,520 It's like when you watch a video and it cuts a little bit and it's always changed the scene. 693 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,600 People's brains work the same way. 694 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,280 When you change topics, they're like, oh, I'm not talking about that anymore. 695 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,280 They're talking about this. 696 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,880 Like that's how people's brains work. 697 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,560 People like it. 698 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,560 And don't lie to me. 699 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,080 You watch TikTok and I know you do the very same thing. 700 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,080 Don't lie to me. 701 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,080 Yeah. 702 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,480 So it is very true. 703 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,120 All right, my friends, I leave the rest to you. 704 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,120 Let me know your comments. 705 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,800 I think it's hard for us to make decisions when it comes to things that affect our future, 706 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:11,480 but all the same, it's nice to see different ways to do it, different approaches that you 707 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,000 can take because when you don't know what you don't know, I know it's a weird thing to 708 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,320 hear, but you don't know what you don't know. 709 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,520 And so when you start to learn things you didn't know, it gives you those options to 710 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,720 make hard choices and maybe new and dynamic ways that you hadn't thought about before. 711 00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:31,360 So you know, it shows gone a little on a little longer than it normally does. 712 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,400 That's because it shows been a little bit different. 713 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,040 And if you have any comments, anything you want to talk about, how do you handle hard 714 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,040 choices? 715 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,040 You let me know. 716 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,920 I also let me know if you want Reagan back on the show or if you never want to run again. 717 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,920 Dang, I'm rude. 718 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,720 I know, I'm very rude. 719 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,760 All right, guys take care of yourselves. 720 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,760 We're out of here. 721 00:37:51,760 --> 00:38:12,980 Thanks everybody.