My friends, I want to welcome you back to the Sheepget Sheared podcast.
I'm Austin Creed, your host.
Normally I do the show by myself, but today I have a special guest.
I have my girlfriend on the show today, and we're going to make some, you know, I think
I'm curious to hear what you got to say about hard choices in life because you and I have
both made some, you know, weird different choices.
Like for example, you're younger than me, you left your home to come kind of travel
and do the job that we're doing now.
And a lot of it, I'm sure wasn't easy because I mean, you come out this from a different
point of view than I do.
And so that's why I wanted you to talk about this subject in particular.
You want to introduce yourself or do you want me to do it?
You want me to do it?
So my girlfriend is named, her name is Reagan.
She's from Kansas.
We, so we're currently in Georgia.
I mentioned that in previous shows because we're storm chasing for a roofing job.
But what's interesting to me is I met her when I first started doing this business out
in Kansas city.
And when I told her that I was leaving because the hurricane hit Georgia, I was like, you
know what?
I got to go chase a storm.
There's more money involved in it.
And a lot of people need help.
And when I told her that I was leaving, she didn't respond the way I was expecting.
You know, most of the time when you tell somebody you're leaving and your relationships kind
of new, you usually don't like, oh, wow, oh, that's, that's a bummer.
Wow.
You know, that's too bad, but I'm not going to hold you back, you know, have a nice life,
you know, goodbye.
That's not how it played out.
And you had to make a really hard choice.
You had to decide whether you were going to come with me or you were going to stay where
you grew up with your friends and your family.
So you've told me multiple times it wasn't an easy thing for you to do.
It was something that you were very emotional about because you were conflicted.
So I want you to you want to tell me, tell me what the thought process was or was it
mostly an emotional decision?
I feel like it was very interesting.
It was in a time in my life where I was like looking for a fresh start, so when you, Georgia,
I was like, I bet, let's go.
But for me to make that decision, it really was just like, I cried a lot and then I was
like, all right, let's do this.
It wasn't that hard of a decision for me to make minus like my family, which was a little
difficult towards the closer that it got to us actually leaving.
It makes sense.
But here's what I'm trying to understand.
I come at it from normally a term of I make all kinds of like pros and cons lists in my
head.
You've seen me do it before where I'm like, OK, there's a pro here on this choice.
There's a con here on that choice, but there's also a pro on that choice over here.
I like to make sure that, OK, what's the right course of action?
And by the term, right, it's super subjective, right?
Right.
But at the same time, it's something that in the back of your mind, you're like, I need
to make the right choice.
And I think a lot of other people would agree with that.
They want to make the right choice, but then they don't know what that is.
I feel like person I've always done whatever makes me happy.
I've always been a day by day.
See, and that's why part of the reason why I wanted you and I to discuss this together,
because I don't come at it from that perspective.
And we've had those conversations before of I'm more in the mindset of, hey, I need
to sacrifice.
I don't care about how I feel necessarily.
I might want to want to do something a little more in that moment than others.
But that doesn't mean that just because I want it in that moment, I'm going to want
it next week or next month or next year.
And that's a thought that crosses my mind.
I'm not immediately going to jump to the next thing because I'm not focused on whatever
is making me happy in that moment.
That's what I should do.
I'm not necessarily saying that that can't get you to your goals.
I'm saying that that's not how I come from it.
And so when you were explaining how you like we had a whole conversation about happiness,
remember, we had this whole conversation and it was interesting to me because we actually
were saying similar things just in different ways.
Yeah.
For example, you were talking about how making like you actually I'll let you say it.
We were talking about happiness in the past.
What you were talking about if you don't feel happy, then you shouldn't be alive.
Is that correct?
Oh, yeah.
Because you can't like.
It was one of those conversations that was very it was explained in a way that I didn't
understand.
And so when you explained it to me, though, it started to make more sense.
But the problem was I come at it from such a perspective of happiness to me is it's
fleeting.
It's something that I don't care about every second because I don't expect to be happy.
I want to be fulfilled.
I want to look back and say I grinded.
I did things I necessarily didn't like, but it got me to where I'm happy and I like where
I am versus I feel happy.
Happy kind of like it's rationed.
Like happiness is going to be very fleeting and you're going to have hits of it.
It's like it's like if you have if you smoke or drink or anything like that, when you get
that first hit, you're like, wow, this is great.
I like this.
But it slowly fades and you need another hit again.
That's how happiness kind of works at least for me.
And I think a lot of other people would frankly agree with that.
So how how do you manage to get towards your goals?
Is there anything you use that strategy where you kind of get a hit, but wean and then get
a hit again versus just saying, I don't care about it.
I'm going to keep going forward.
I feel like you have to make sure that yourself is happy.
Make sure that everyone around you is happy.
I live day by day.
Tomorrow isn't a comment.
So you have to kind of find a little bit of happiness within the world tomorrow going
to be like, wow, yesterday really sucked and I didn't do anything to find something I enjoy
of you.
It's interesting because I've never heard to explain that way until I met you because
when I think about in those terms, I think I got to always kind of be happy, which can
lead you to dangerous places and lead you to being more hedonistic in your hard choices
and become more like a, well, if it feels good, I'm going to do it and that can lead
you to dark places, but it can also lead you to good choices.
It's all about how you choose to handle it.
There are multiple different philosophies about hard choices.
Yours was one I really heard explained before.
Mine is one that I've encountered in my life, military and so on and so forth.
There's ones that are even as funny as you know what flippism is.
You ever heard of that before?
Flip is the idea and it was actually created by I think it was by Walt Disney.
It was the idea in a Donald Duck comic that every hard choice you make in your life is
decided by the flipping of a coin.
Like you choose heads or tails and ironically enough, it's actually used in the United States
government.
So, for example, in the election of 1800, I'll go down a rabbit hole.
Why not?
I'll go down a little rabbit hole here for a second.
In the 1800 election, Burr versus Jefferson, what happened was they both got 73 electoral
votes.
That was the time then, like at 270 is now, to win.
And the founding fathers had never encountered that before.
Country was young.
They had no idea what to do.
So what they did was they decided the past of 12th Amendment, which was if there's a
deadlock and the states do not certify the election, what happens is the House chooses
the president and the Senate chooses the vice president through a vote.
But if they deadlock, what happens is they flip a coin to choose who is president and
who is not.
It is crazy.
It's very crazy.
And here's the interesting part is why in the like they're kind of almost lazy to a
certain extent, passing a thing like that, because you kind of sometimes got to just
hope for the best.
That's where I'm going with the story is to some extent, people who are very politically
in crime.
We talk about politics on the show.
People are very politically passionate in a lot of ways, but the founding fathers didn't
lay out everything because they're not God.
They're not all seeing dudes from the future.
They don't know what's always going to happen.
So you can't always prepare for everything, and so there's something elegantly, you know,
kind of evil slash classy about the idea of flipping a coin and making a decision.
Very simple, but also liberating at the same time.
And I compare that to your idea of happiness because a lot of men were not told that.
We're not told to pursue happiness because happiness is fleeting and it's not going to
get us to where we want to go.
It kind of highlights the difference between men and women today.
A lot of times women can have that attitude and win.
I've never met a man who can have that attitude and win.
I just I'm not saying they don't exist.
I'm saying I have never personally encountered that.
So like how, how would you say that that's worked for you to get you towards your goals,
even though you live day by day?
I feel like you can always have goals and things that you want to do in life, but you
always have to prioritize doing just one thing a day that makes you happy.
But make sure that you're living life to the point because you can't get to those dreams
if you're constantly in the state of arrest, depressed, anxiety, so all these different
feelings that you have day to day and you can't get there if you're not prioritizing
for happiness of being.
Well, the reason I like this conversation so much is because a lot of people suffer
from burnout.
I've suffered from it.
Arguably, I'm kind of going through it right now at this moment, but also I've had friends
go through it where they're just like, I loved it last week.
I even liked it a couple of days ago and now I just, I hate it.
I can't do it anymore.
And so when you talk about this idea of finding something that you actually enjoy every day,
even if it's just one thing like going to your favorite coffee shop or going to the
park or you have a dog playing with your dog, like something simple and produce happiness.
And we didn't have a whole lot of prep before the show because I didn't want, I want it
to be organic.
I like to be a conversation.
Have you ever heard of a guy named Lin Yu Tang before?
No, I don't hear.
So Lin Yu Tang was a Chinese philosopher and he wrote a book called The Importance of Living.
And his whole philosophy wasn't happiness is in the flights of poets and understanding
the complexities of the universe.
His idea of happiness was getting your hair cut every two weeks and watching your neighbor
fall off the roof.
Real.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
His whole thing about how he has a whole chapter about lying in bed and how that makes
you happy.
And his whole chapter about like little moments in time because he was holed up in a monastery
for like two weeks because of rain and he was raised by Christian missionaries in China,
but then he was very atheistic and whatever throughout his entire life.
He's like a normal person.
Most people don't start with one belief and end their life never changing it, never questioning
it or anything like that.
Right.
One of the hard choices we make in life is whether to go with what our parents taught
us or to do something completely different or somewhere in between.
And so when you when you read the book like this, you describe the idea of like cutting
your watermelon on a bright sunny warm day.
That's all is just not happiness.
Like that's like letting a fly out of a room that was annoying you.
That's happiness.
Like little things like that that normally you'd like you would never think about that.
You think about being happy.
It's like, oh, I got my dream job.
Oh, I got my dream relationship partner.
Oh, I got my dream car.
Like I'm so happy.
Wow.
And I'm like, they think that that's what they need.
Not cutting a watermelon or getting your hair cut or scratching an itch on, you know, somewhere
in your body and having it go away.
Like little things like that people overlook because they're so busy with their lives.
They have so many things going on that they don't stop and almost smell the roses and
understand the simple pleasures of life.
I have day to day.
And I finding myself that I need something that's going to bring even if it's just a
tiny bit of happiness doesn't necessarily need this like huge, you know, life changing
thing.
But waking up brushing my hair makes me happy.
No, like hitting my nails makes me happy.
You know, things like that, being making the bed, you know, like simple things like that
can make somebody happy and really that serotonin to keep you going.
Because if you don't the serotonin going, then you're just not going to like feel the
best and do us.
I 100% agree with that.
It's like, but again, I didn't think about that when you explain it the way you explain
it.
You know, we go on Tiktok, Instagram, Facebook, X, whatever.
And then we'll hear people say what you said the first time when you and I had this conversation
about being happy every day to some extent, like finding something that you enjoy that
makes you happy.
And they'll be like, oh, that's so stupid.
Like they'll explain it in a way that people won't accept.
They won't be like, oh, let's have a conversation like this and understand where we're coming
from.
Yeah.
You know, going to Starbucks and getting a $15 coffee or it could be something $15 on
coffee is ridiculous.
Okay.
I'm using it as an example.
I'm just saying like, it's the idea that that's one small thing that we are like, oh,
you know, that wasn't awful.
I didn't feel like, oh, God, I got to do this again.
Like it was something that you actually kind of enjoyed doing a little bit.
Like I'll speak for myself a lot of times, especially in our job that we do, it's very
monotonous, very high stress, and I don't have those moments.
That's why you burn out if you don't have those moments.
And a lot of times in our job, but we have the sales aspect of our job, it can be very
much like that.
Wow, I got a sale.
That's so great.
Oh, I got a homeowner that's working with me.
Oh, it's so great.
But you're not going to have that every day.
Right.
And so every day when you go out and knock doors, you call people, you send out emails,
whatever, you're going to be like, wow, I didn't get nothing today or I didn't get the
results I wanted today.
Wow.
That's really discouraging.
I don't like this.
Now I got to make a hard choice.
Do I want to do this anymore?
You know, and so.
But then after those rough days that you have of like, no one wanted to talk to me that
day or I didn't get a signature or, you know, all these, I didn't get a job set up today.
No stuff like that.
Right.
Is that your mother again?
No.
You have to almost come home and find something that you and like for me, I color.
I have a rough day.
I color.
Because that makes me happy.
She's pretty good at it, by the way.
I've seen some of her Harry Potter stuff.
It's not too bad.
You have to like find something that is that anxiety, that stress, that all those emotions
regardless of you're allowing yourself to.
Because you do and it takes a toll on your brain.
If you don't give your brain some kind of cortisol, you're just going to sit in that
breast and up in that state of, wow, I hate, wow, my life sucks because you're not actually
finding any to release that serotonin.
I'm not saying.
No, no, I hear what you're saying.
But like you have to do that so that you don't reach that level of burnout.
So I 100% agree.
And I think that's why a lot of people, they hate their life.
They turn to drugs.
They turn to alcohol.
They turn to outside substances.
Could even be, hey, I don't like the way I look in the gym.
And so instead of taking in a slow pace to naturally improve, they want to take shortcuts.
They'll take psalms, steroids, you know, all kinds of stuff to try to expedite the process
in the same way that people want to get rich quick.
They don't want to grind.
They don't want to do things that take time.
Everybody wants to win yesterday.
People don't want to wait, pay their dues and whatnot.
Like I was having this conversation with my best friend.
I think I told us about, you know, what I was talking with Ben, who's made me listening
to the show.
I don't know.
You were talking about this idea that our parents, especially if we live in like middle
class, upper middle class, whatever, we see our parents when we're like, what, 10, 15
years old, and we start to actually care about what our parents are doing in their life,
like how they got where they are.
That's 10 to 15 years where they were grinding and we didn't see it.
Yeah.
So the equivalent to, you know, you don't talk to your best friend who you, you know,
we both talk to pretty much every day.
You didn't talk to her for like 15 years.
And the next time you talk, you're owning your own hair salon and you're making a lot
of money.
Wow.
How'd you do it?
Right.
They didn't see the day by day of all this failed.
That didn't work out.
I kind of got that win, but it wasn't really a win.
Like they didn't see all the struggle you went through.
They just saw the result and they assumed that like you were all, you were winning the whole
time.
Right.
And so that's something I've had to see for myself.
Like I look at my parents, you've met my parents.
I've seen my friends, parents and whatnot.
They do pretty well for themselves.
But the problem is you don't see when they were down bad living on a futon.
You know, you don't see when they were making an investment.
The investment totally dropped and they're like, wow, well, I do now.
Like I have no idea what to do.
You see them when they've made three bad choices, but then they made one really good choice.
Now they're winning.
They're starting to win.
The same thing like with your mother's a little different than mine, but she was alone.
She was a single mom.
She had to make it work.
I guarantee you she didn't enjoy every second of it.
I'm sure it was very difficult for her.
But you look back, you look at her now and you're like, wow, she's a strong lady.
She's done all these things for me and you're starting to appreciate it now.
And we don't do that when we're kids.
Yeah, we don't do that when we're kids.
We don't see that because we see everything else because our parents are old fogies and
they're boring.
You know, nobody sees that the same way that you see people on Instagram or whatever and
they make a lot of money and they're like, wow, how did you get to that point?
Well, they made or what they made one choice when they were young and they stuck with it.
Yeah, they didn't do five things and fail.
And then they're like, well, I don't know what the hell to do now.
That's something you can't win if you take that route.
But it's just not as obvious.
Yeah.
So when it comes to hard choices in life, we come to two very different we come at two
very different angles to fix the problem.
Yeah.
Like you mentioned to me, I think one of your hardest choices was choosing to move away from
your friends and your family.
I don't want to put words in your mouth, but that would make a lot of sense.
And what was the ultimate?
Like at which point did you realize exactly what you wanted?
What was the tipping point for you?
I don't really know.
Like to be honest, it was kind of like, I didn't like how I felt when you told me you were
leaving.
So I took it into my own hands and decided that I was going to help you make the world
a better place.
So for me, it was just like flip of a switch and nothing like really made me lean that
way or not lean that way.
It just kind of like popped into my head and sound like a good idea.
You mean flip a coin?
No.
Just whatever my head told me to do, I went with it.
You know, there's an aspect of this we haven't talked about yet and then I just realized
this.
Something with people were in your way.
Who are haters, who are very not even necessarily haters, but they are going to put little seeds
of doubt everywhere that you go, everything that you do and whatnot.
Like we've had that a lot in our relationship.
And it's one of those things that I've always, I'm never a bit surprised by, but I've always
wondered why.
Because when my friends do things I don't agree with, my first thought isn't, oh, I'm going
to bag on this.
I'm going to let them have it.
I'm going to be like, why?
Why did you choose to do this?
You had a hard choice to make.
Why did you choose the choice that you chose versus the other path you had available to
you?
Why did you choose to do that?
Most people don't do that.
Most people say, wow, I wouldn't have made that choice, so therefore that choice sucks.
They don't say, huh, you know, I could learn something here if I shut up and listen or
if I ask the right question and then proceed to listen to it instead of saying, wow, not
the choice I would have made, so therefore I'm right, they're wrong.
They don't know what they're talking about.
You need more hair ties?
She's braining her hair in, what are those, those are Dutch braids, right?
The regular braids?
I just...
Yeah, she got her hair done somewhat recently and she's getting used to having it be longer
than normal, so it's...
My hair has never quite been this long in my life and I love it, but it definitely does
get in my way sometimes, so it's easy to just pop it in a couple braids or a couple pigtails
or ponytail.
The last few days, it's been in a bun, so I was like, maybe I should try something different.
My hair didn't like that very much.
Would you classify that as a hard choice?
No, just because it's just like I fidgeted with my hair and ended up braiding it.
So...
Well, I mean, even right now, as I speak, we've mentioned it a couple times thus far of when
we have doubt, especially with doubt of what we're doing right now.
I'm doubting a wrestle with some hard choices because personally, you and I have talked about
this.
The idea of flying really appeals to me and I know people who've wanted to do that and
they're doing it and they love it.
It's a one and done.
They don't need to worry about, oh, do I want to ship my career or their shows as well as
real experiences of people doing one job for 20 years, they retire and then they start
doing a whole other career.
It's totally different, but they have that money from the retirement and whatnot to make
that switch.
As us, we're in a little more of a we're now we're still in our 20s, you're in your early
20s, I'm in my mid 20s, we're in a very interesting situation.
And so we don't have that luxury.
And so when we...
Your vintage.
Oh, OK.
She's been on this kick ever since I turned 25.
She's like, your vintage, babe.
If you look at the definition of vintage, it is anything over 25 years.
So he entered his.
So when I see, when I hear vintage, I see a dude from like the 80s with a motorcycle,
Ray Bans and like a leather jacket that that's vintage to you and I.
But just remember that there's kids who were born in 2000 and 20.
Oh, I know.
Now, now your vintage.
No, one of my buddies who's young, a little younger than me, he's got two kids.
I've told you about him.
Yeah.
He's I understand it.
I don't know.
Side track.
I don't know how people decide to have kids in this day and age this early on because
of all the the economy sucks.
This economy.
And I don't blame Trump because he's barely been in office thus far.
But here's what I don't get.
How do people just jump into doing that?
Like that's a hard choice.
And they just kind of jump into it.
I don't tend to just jump into things.
I sense a lie.
I've been a couple of times and a lot of times it works out in some ways and really
doesn't work out in other ones.
Well, if you ask most people, 90 percent of that first kid is not on purpose.
Oh, now we're going in a whole other direction.
Like they it wasn't on purpose, but it was an accident.
I bless me and I was called an accident because I'm the first born blessing and no, I think
you're calling me an accident.
Well, I can't relate to that because I'm a middle kid.
And I was planned unlike my older brother.
He was not planned.
The older brother who's what, like eight years older than you.
Yeah.
So I mean, okay.
Those are superior.
That way.
No, his face just changed.
It was ridiculous.
The answer to that is no.
That's not what you told our coworker the other day.
And she remembers that, by the way.
What?
Remember what you said at dinner like three weeks ago?
And you're like, oh, you know, he's right about like 90 percent of the things that he
says.
That's true, though.
But you also have to remember that like, we have like five more years of experience
in the world than I do.
So yeah, 90 percent of the time he is right.
I had Ivan 25 right now and he was 25.
It probably been a whole different situation.
No, no, I think it wouldn't.
I think it'd be about the same.
Yeah, I do.
That's fine.
Oh, really?
Oh, I don't know about that.
But was.
I'm joking.
Most of the time I'd agree with that.
Sometimes though, you have your moments.
You're just like your mother sometimes.
Yep.
But you know, I didn't intend for this episode to be almost 30 minutes, but I think our conversation
just naturally kind of flows.
So I'd forgotten how much time it even passed.
It really has been 30 minutes.
Yeah, almost what?
It's been like almost 28 minutes.
But you see that that's the interesting part about the conversation.
Like this is easy.
Talk about the hard.
It's easy to talk about hard choices.
It's not always easy to make the hard choices.
It's easy to talk about.
Yes, it's easy to talk about because everybody has a different process in which they decide
to make those tough choices in their life, whether they want to put a coin like that
on Doc or they want to make a pros and cons list or they want to say, what makes me happy?
I mean, then there's the list could go on.
There's always something that you said, there's always something that you could do differently
or something you think you maybe should do differently, but you don't always know the
right place.
So I leave the question to you, the audience, what would what do you do when you have to
make a hard choice?
Because I take it in the more pragmatic approach.
You take more of the, I would say, almost hedonist approach, but I wouldn't say that
yellow approach, a yellow approach.
Yeah, you should trademark that.
That's pretty good.
I can't trademark.
You hear that on TikTok?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Like, did you hear that on TikTok?
Because that's cheap.
What?
The yellow approach?
Yeah.
No, I just came up with my.
That's pretty good.
We're keeping that one.
That's pretty good.
Okay.
Why don't I feel old hearing the word yellow?
Do kids even know what that means anymore?
Yeah.
You heard that?
Because what?
You only live once.
Yeah, but like that was a thing in like the 2010s, especially.
But it's still like, it's still a thing.
Like I have friends who are like, because I just graduated a year and a half ago, but
like I high school and I have friends who are still in high school and they have friends
who are obviously still in high school.
So, and they use yellow all the time.
Maybe it's one of those surges.
You know how like the 80s become relevant sometimes in fashion, 90s and stuff like that?
Maybe that's coming back.
But it's same with hags.
Or if you're a Miss Paul, it's Heffers.
No, no, no, hags like have a great summer.
Oh, I thought you were talking about it in different, what did it different?
No, have a great summer.
That's still something that.
Oh God, I remember the yearbook days.
I actually was, did you know I was in yearbook when I high school.
Did you know that?
I was too.
I was the only guy in yearbook.
My first year.
We had way more guys than we did girls in yearbook.
Really?
I was the only dude in my junior year of yearbook.
That's crazy.
The only, I was a token male.
You want to talk about DEI?
I was the token white male in my class of mostly Asian, white and Indian girls in my
high school.
So it was one of those funny things where I didn't know that until I joined the class
and I was like, wow, I just stay here.
The getting's good.
That was not a hard choice.
That one was pretty easy.
And even an elective, I was the only dude in the class.
I'm like, I'll take it.
I think one of my hardest choices, honest, was I knew I'd go back to soccer after I
hurt my knee.
Because you were a goalie in high school?
I, well, I played soccer for, so ever since I was, I'd say I played soccer for, and I
hurt my knee my sophomore year.
I was playing goalie, but I also played outside and defender, which I don't like playing.
But nobody likes playing defense.
Even when I play basketball, defense is boring.
Well, they were realized really quickly that if they put me as a defender, I'm going to
be a second goal.
So they stopped doing that.
Well, I hurt my knee, had to get knee surgery, and then I still decided two years later,
finish out my high school experience on the girls soccer team.
And I ended up still, I ended up hurting my knee again.
But here's, here's the interesting.
Soccer is one of the few sports that's like kind of mainstream.
That's mainstream.
I don't really know much about.
Because in America, especially there are bigger sports to play.
And if you're in Europe or Africa or South America, who is the way to go?
It still is the way to go.
But what I'm saying is like, if I, as a taller dude was never told, hey, you should play soccer
and play goalie.
I played water polo.
I played volleyball.
I played basketball.
And I did not ever consider playing soccer once.
But I don't really know all that much about it.
So when you talk about it, I'm learning something too, because I don't know the link.
I barely even watched the World Cup.
I don't even know that much really to care.
All I know is when I'm around people who are watching it, it'll be dead as silent.
And then all of a sudden, whoa, whoa, it's crazy.
Like the goal scored and it's like, what just happened?
Like everybody just went from zero to 100.
That's one of my favorite things about soccer.
But it's a very calm sport to some extent when you're watching it until you like see
the goal happen.
And then you're like, whoa, because something usually really cool by the goalie or cool kick
or some kind of trick was put into place to get that goal.
But when you're on the field, it's a whole different situation.
Like it's so go, go, go, go, go, watch yourself because someone can flip that ball around
and like like that.
Like all I'll say is I never played soccer, but the one time when you and I were kind
of messing around playing soccer, I scored on you pretty relatively easily.
So I mean, you also have to remember that I am not in the same shape that I was when
I was playing.
You all the excuses.
Also the goal was how big it was small, which makes it easier for you as a defender.
No, because I'm not a defender.
I'm a bully slash outside midfielder, which is one, two, four.
Didn't I tell you all the excuses would be just not coming?
That's like, that's like you scoring on me and basketball.
And they be like, well, you see what happened was and then immediately being like, oh, it
doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
I don't know.
I think I also wasn't.
Fight you to kind of have.
Oh, miscompetitive wasn't feeling competitive.
Not at that current moment now.
I'm just giving you a hard time.
Yeah, I know.
But you know, I appreciate your willingness to talk about hard choices because obviously
we've done a lot in a relatively short period of time when it comes to life changes, hard
life choices, currently, you know, making another potentially hard choice like all of
these things.
And so I think it's something we can easily talk about again.
I know that you're not used to speaking to a microphone.
You don't like public speaking very much.
This wasn't so bad.
Was it was as scary as you were expecting?
No, it was just weird.
What's weird?
Like talking, like having a conversation, but also having a microphone to your face.
Like that's weird.
Wow.
Is it I guess for me, it's not weird because I've done it so many times, but I could see
at the beginning it's kind of weird, but it's a lot harder when you're doing it by yourself
versus when you're doing it with other people because then we go down rabbit holes.
We've gone on rabbit holes in the conversation we have right now.
Yeah.
But that's normal.
People's brains do that all the time.
And you've got someone with ADHD.
So I'm gonna run for honey.
I go around all the time.
People who listen to the show will tell you that I do that and I love it because people's
brains work that way.
I don't know how people watch Fox News or any of these other organizations where like
they get on a blackboard and they're like, all right, everybody, here's what we're gonna
talk about this, this, this and this.
And that's all they do.
They don't talk about what they did that day.
They don't talk about what they're interested in.
They don't go down rabbit holes.
Like it kind of gives you like a breather.
It's like when you watch a video and it cuts a little bit and it's always changed the scene.
People's brains work the same way.
When you change topics, they're like, oh, I'm not talking about that anymore.
They're talking about this.
Like that's how people's brains work.
People like it.
And don't lie to me.
You watch TikTok and I know you do the very same thing.
Don't lie to me.
Yeah.
So it is very true.
All right, my friends, I leave the rest to you.
Let me know your comments.
I think it's hard for us to make decisions when it comes to things that affect our future,
but all the same, it's nice to see different ways to do it, different approaches that you
can take because when you don't know what you don't know, I know it's a weird thing to
hear, but you don't know what you don't know.
And so when you start to learn things you didn't know, it gives you those options to
make hard choices and maybe new and dynamic ways that you hadn't thought about before.
So you know, it shows gone a little on a little longer than it normally does.
That's because it shows been a little bit different.
And if you have any comments, anything you want to talk about, how do you handle hard
choices?
You let me know.
I also let me know if you want Reagan back on the show or if you never want to run again.
Dang, I'm rude.
I know, I'm very rude.
All right, guys take care of yourselves.
We're out of here.
Thanks everybody.