And to me it's it's coming across as hypocritical and that's why a lot of people have checked out of religion is because people are not real, they're they're pushing ideals that they themselves can't live up to. And it shows and they get pointed out, rightfully so for their inadequacies. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Sheep Geared Podcast. I'm your host, Austin Creed. My friends, they were going to discuss. The. Balancing of can you be both red pill and religious at the same? Now. This is a very complicated question and because it's complicated, we're going to break it down in multiple different ways. We're going to start with identifying what it means to be, quote, red. But what does that even mean? We're going to then going to jump into, you know, from what is being what is red. Built what is what is, what do we mean by religion? We mean Catholics. Do we Hindus do we mean Muslims? Who are we talking about? Who is included in this group? And then we're going to look into how Can you believe in something that you cannot comprehend but also be rooted in reality? To some extent, we're going to break this all down and we're going to make it make. Once and then I'm going to leave it to you because I'll share my my perspective and my ideals. But the end of the day, this is your show and I want you to decide for yourself. Do you think I'm right? Do you think I'm wrong? And I think that this will be a very educational conversation. So not further ado. Before I play the first clip, I want to invite everybody listening to the show who share their experience of how did you get introduced this type of content on the Internet? Was I the first content creator that the likelihood is I'll be very low, but if that's true, I'm honored. Most people have seen whether it's there's the black man is here. The white man is there. A lot of people like to divide different sectors of the side of the Internet and well, I don't think it's really that important because let's get one thing straight and this will feed into a topic we'll discuss later on. A lot of the quote, red pill, a lot of the red pillars. You listen to are very heavy on the raid, red pill rage or stuck in that section of grief. Anybody who studied the seven stages of grief knows that anger is one of the stages. One of the early stages of that, of grief and a lot of men once they. Joker from better Bachelor, shout out to him, he calls it the Suppository. A lot of people when we take our daily vitamins, we take them, you know, orally. But there's also suppositories, one that are inserted through the the other set of lips that you possess on your body. I'll let your imagination go where you want with that. But we all experienced this in some way, and it's usually negative. And so when we are first exposed to the. We're usually very angry or we're usually very upset because we've been told the exact opposite for so long, whether it be by friends, family, mentors, Church, general society, the entertainment industry, education system, all of this is fed into our beliefs. And so when we're told that. It's a lie. We tend to react negatively and that's OK. I'm not telling you not to go through this period. It's part of your adjustment to this new life. But you can't stay there forever. And a lot of people do. And so we're going to break this down. We have 3 videos in total today. I want to break the first one down. But see what this woman has to say. About the red pill, let's continue with let's see what you guys are saying. 

There are some other men that you know, they're in their masculine and they understand that you're supposed to pursue a woman and court her and how to treat a woman, you know, they understand they're supposed to protect and provide. But then you have the other half where they're just trying to figure out life and figure out where they fit in at. So a lot of them beat on their chest, like King Kong and stay there out for when they're really just a beta. Then you got some of them that. Claim that I'm asking. I'm asking when they're really feminine society and a lot of things that's on social media, especially red pill content got messed up well, men messed up. 

Now you see, that's a very interesting point. I think she's half correct. And the reason I say half correct and not fully wrong or right is because she's framing it from the wrong perspective. #1 she's saying that the men are out there to please the women. This is own. This is partially true. A lot of men, when we are first experienced in two and the red pill is not just about. It comes from the matrix. If you don't know where this term comes from, it comes from NEO in the Matrix when he's presented with two pills, the blue one representing the fantasy, and then the red. Which is representing reality. And so when we are exposed to the fantasy that we're fed versus the reality, when we first see the reality, it's hard to go back to the fantasy even if we like the fantasy, even if we think that the fantasy is great and we wish it was true, we end up becoming more purple versus blue. Or red. And so when she talks about this idea of. Men, masculine men providing and protecting women. She's half correct. Yes. Masculine men do those things, but #1. We're avoiding a very important discussion, which is why should that man protect and provide for you? Because if you're a man, you're gonna provide and protect people, whether it's spouses, children. It could even be animals, parents, grandparents. There are people in your life. If you're a man and you reach a certain age, you're going to have to provide and protect these people. If you don't, you're actually doing a disservice to the social order. You know, it's very interesting to me when people insult guys like you and guys like me who are not exactly fully plugged into this philosophy or this, people call it a movement. It's a philosophy. I don't like the idea of people calling it a movement and make it seem like we're like some political movement. No, we're not. But when we get down to the nitty gritty details, we need to understand. That people will twist this to try to benefit them, and that applies to pretty much everybody. But it's about seeing the harsh realities, even those you don't like. It's very easy to accept things you want to believe. It's true. It's very easy to say. I want this to be true. Therefore, I'm more likely to accept it. But when you do that, you are doing yourself a disservice because the truth. Is something that is very more often than not gonna be something you don't like. Gonna be the one thing that you most want to be false is going to most likely be true. And so when we tie this into religion for two seconds, which we will continue to do throughout this show, people tend to think of religion as you have to go to church and you have to believe XY or Z. No, I don't subscribe to that. Do I think there are rules laid out in the Torah? Yes. Do I think there are certain things that define a religion and what they their core beliefs are? I learned this theology when I was in college. They were like first pillars, second pillar and third pillar items. First pillar would be if you don't believe in these things, we don't share the same faith. To me, there's a difference between faith and religion. Incorporated. Religion incorporated is what we saw for thousands of years with the Catholic Church, where they just profited off of people. They mixed the church church with the state they to get tax money and revenue. And they were basically running it like a giant Ponzi scheme, with the Pope making off like a bandit in my estimation. Else to explain that almost every religion that's organized has the very top of the pyramid is insanely wealthy. This is how it works. This is religion incorporated now on the other side of the spectrum, we have pure spirituality, which. Has no rules and mainly just relies on feelings. I don't like that either, because then what the hell is the point of just dealing with feelings? Feelings are fleeting and they like trying to chase a rabbit. You're never going to catch it. How do you know if that rabbit runs in the bushes and then another one comes out that you're chasing the same? Rabbit. That makes sense. I hope it does. Because this is what we're talking about when we talk about religion. I'm more talking about the idea of believing in a power that's higher than yourself, something that is bigger than you, that is more powerful than you, and that will outlive you. And that play some role in the cosmic universe. Now I'm more inclined to believe in the God of the Old Testament. You don't have to do that if you don't want to. There are multiple different ways you can explore, but the search for God. Is extremely important and I think it's part of the human condition and that's why I don't think you're. I don't think you're doing yourself a service by just saying because I don't see God. It can't be real. Well, there are a lot of things that you don't see initially that turn out to be true. Speaking of which, we're going to go into, I think the sky is a pastor. I don't. No, I don't know what the sky is, but he looks like a guy who either goes to church he's a or he's a pastor. He's something he's gonna talk about unplugging from the quote, the red pill, and start growing spiritually. So me on this show and guys in this community will attest to this. We weave the two together because I think that both of them are pillars of. The modern man and what will make you the most balanced as a human being? Giving yourself rules and regulations will help you keep out of areas that could damage you, and that could lead you down the rabbit holes. But now we have this type of content I don't know. He's gonna say I can guess, but let's hear it. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. I doubt we'll play almost all six minutes of this. I doubt I'll want to hear this. For six minutes. But let's hear what he has to say nonetheless. 

No longer. You gotta listen to those red pill guys. Stop. Enough is enough. We get it. Female nature hypergamy. Thank you. Oh, now self improvement. Getting the gym. Make sure you read. Make sure you stand on your purpose. Good. We're doing that. But what's after that? What's after that? It's the spiritual aspect. These people are not leading y'all and steering y'all to God because all it's doing is spewing up more hate, more rage, more anger. And all it's doing is making you hate women. Am I here to tell y'all that, oh, women are angels? Heck no. I know it's wicked out here. I see it every damn day, every day. But what I am telling y'all is, do not let nobody put their trauma on y'all. Do not let nobody feed off of your hate. 

OK, I'm gonna pause him right there. He makes a good point. I made this point earlier. A lot of men in this space. Are usually a introduced or B start the content and that includes. Need. Very early on, with the rage aspect, the Red pill rage is notorious in the space because all of us go through it and it's very obvious and people could see it. This is an unavoidable fact. So he's right there. However, what I think he's wrong about is it's not spiritual. Of course, it's spiritual. Your spirit is now adapting to a new world that you're now living in. Now do some people stay in red pill rage forever? They they stay in the rage and they stay in the this taste and the anger and the hatred. Yes, they do. I don't think that's healthy for you. But some men still do it. Versus we go into the spiritual side. We understand. Wait a minute. There is more to the story. And what comes after? He's right on that aspect 100%, right. This is why I talk about biblical bachelors M because this is the after the rage is over. Because now we gotta we gotta still live in the world. We gotta still talk to to women who work in restaurants. Who women in our everyday lives. And we can't come off as angry and hateful because then no one's gonna want to be around a guy like that. Nobody wants to be around a girl like that. Nobody wants to be around people like that. He's right on that aspect. But I also think. 

He's. 

Trying to straw man in a little bit too much, which is a very dangerous president to set. So let's let them continue. 

Because you're getting away from the very thing that you wanted as a child when you were innocent, pure soul. You went through trauma. You went through things to get you away from that, and you lost sight of it. And they're not helping you get back to that. This is why you focus on God. You don't focus on the red pill. You don't focus on the Red pill creator. You focus on God because what God is going to do. With your free will is heal you. 

See a lot of people use God as a way to just, like, get out a get out of jail free card. Now I like that I I think what he's talking what I would say is the search for God is important, yes. Can you listen to just what church tells you and and go ahead with that? Sure, if that's what you want, go ahead. But. He's touching on the very early stages. He's not talking about. Eyes. Who have gotten past this rage stage and they've decided, you know what? I'm not mad. I've accepted it. I'm moving on. I've. I've decided. Hey, I'm not clinging to hope anymore. I'm going to decide. Hey, I can do this. It's not going to be easy. I'm not going to always enjoy it, but I'm going to live in this new world that I've been exposed to, and I'm not going to be angry. I'm gonna accept it. I'm just gonna live my life and do my thing. And a lot of men, they get to that point, but it takes. Time. Takes time and it takes maturity not to say that you are immature. If you are angry, it just means you're going through a grieving stage. We've all done it on camera, cut out for let's get back to this video and see what. Else he has. 

Right. He's gonna give you God-given wisdom wisdom that I can't give y'all red pill guys can't give y'all things that you gonna learn about yourself. You allow God to speak through me. But I am not God himself. I'm not. So you got to focus on that relationship with God. So you know where you need to be when you need to be, you know. Like I say bro do not let these people program y'all. 

And now I'm confused. What is he talking about? In other words. Whatever, let's get. Maybe it'll make sense in a minute. This. Is a long video. 

Is this person speaking from a place? Sense of hate is this person speaking from a place of resentment, trauma, or is this person speaking from a place of love? 

OK, now, now. Now we have a problem. OK. See, gentlemen, the idea of love. Love is so weaponized in society today. And this is part of the reason why the church has gotten to where it's gotten and why a lot of men have left. I hope this guy mentions this. I doubt he will, because he seems like he's a little more on the gumpy side. But here's the problem. When people see love, love has been weaponized, especially in the church, but in society as a whole, love has gone from. Any the English language is limited in the use of love. When you look at the Hebrew and the Greek, there are multiple different words for love and so when he gets talks about are they coming from a place of love or hate, the line is very thin between those two. Let's start with that number 2 the over. The over the hyper focus on love has led to the. Infiltration of the Church of by with communist rhetoric like the gender theory and love is love, you know, putting the the rainbow flag up in the church. That's what that's led to. So we need to be really, really careful when we bring up this idea of are we coming from a place of love? God is love. Yes. God is also wrath. God is a lot of things, but people like to put forward the notion that God is love above everything else. I don't personally subscribe to that now. If you do, cool, I don't. I relate more to the God of of the Old Testament, the wrath, fire and brimstone, constructive type of love. The love is there. But it's not everything. When when people use The Beatles version of, all you need is love and they put it in the church. That leads to what we have now with the United Methodist Church, letting letting people who are of the rainbow, the rain, the alphabet mafia or the rainbow writers or the the community, the rainbow community, are now teaching and. Pasturing flocks now. So. When you let love go too far and you end up living in a Beatles song, of all you need is love and your church. And in your relationship God. You you get to the. Extreme. OK. And this is part of the reason why the men have ended up in the so-called red pill as well. Is they chased, love and love led them here. So we need to be careful. I like the idea of reason. Do you gentlemen? Do you like the idea of reason and logic over feelings and love? Because there's a balance that must be struck and when people are too heavy in other direction. You can come across as hateful, so this is the problem. This guy is kind of giving you the ABBA dabba dabba treatment, and I'm not liking it really right now. 

God is love. 

No. God is a lot of things, Sir. Be careful with that. 

When you start to work on yourself spiritually, you no longer have to lean on your own understanding. Or another fool or understanding that's that's steering you in. The wrong direction. You wake up, you become more conscious. You get this thing called the Sermon spiritual discernment. You can see clear as day. So you don't have to guess if a woman is playing games or I don't know if she's playing or not. Your spirit gonna let you know God. 

Ohh no. Now we're getting into the feelings conversation gentleman. I don't subscribe. To this this. To me, this is what's led to men being more feminized, and I don't like it. I personally don't like it and This is why a lot of men end up in the rage. We have the ragers and then we have the feelers and we need to find a comfy balance in between. And to me, that's what the biblical bachelor lifestyle is supposed to be. Is this nice in between of understanding that there are? Virtual forces at play, but at the same time we're not unrealistic with our expectations. We're not crazy trying to convert everybody. We're just going our own way doing our thing. We don't impose on people. We're not trying to tell everybody that to feel our rage and understand our plight. No one wants to do that. Nobody wants to do most people who are in the the normal society, they think we're crazy. A lot of us. It's like the born again Christian types who go to church for a week and then they come out and they're trying to convert everybody. We need to avoid that type of dynamic in the red pill space too, because we end up doing that a lot. I'm even guilty of that myself. When we try to get into this balance of balancing religion and the red pill, we need to understand that it's stemming from a place of truth and seeing the world for what it is, not what we want it to be, not what we wish it was, not what we hope it will become, or anything. No, we take it for what it is and we adapt. That's the way it works. That is the way it's supposed to work and that is how men, in my opinion, should operate. But again, this is up to you and I can't. We're not even halfway through this. Guys. Going in circles. I really am. I alone. Does anybody else think this is kind of going in circles here? That's kind of what it seems like to me. Let's continue. We'll see how much more I can stomach of this before we move on. 

I'm gonna tell you, your eyes. You gonna see you're gonna see. You're gonna see in the man the 1st 510 seconds. Of. Talking to people, that's why you got to focus on God. You got to desexualize your brain. You got to cut the addictions. Focus on God. Get off the websites, get off the Internet. Go outside, touch some grass, sit with your, sit with yourself. And be with yourself and ask yourself why am I? Why am I the way that I am? Why do I do this? Where did this start? Why am I still hurt? 

See, I like where he's going now. But here's the problem. You need to root it in realism, cause now he's taking it too much to a spiritual place. See, we're not just spiritual beings, in my opinion. One man's opinion there is the spirit, and then there is the monkey body. There is your physical form and there is your astral form or your spirit. So whatever you want. Call it. And that is what makes humans different. But now we're going from 1 extreme to the other. Now we're going way to we're almost denying the body, and we're going into too much in the spiritual direction, which is going to cause you to over overthink. You're overthinking and you're going to drive yourself crazy. This is a danger on the other side of the spectrum. And I really am concerned. Now. Because he's saying that you don't want hatred, all you need is love. But then. He doesn't actually say what love is. What is love? There are songs about this books about this philosophy is dedicated to it, and yet nobody seems to define it. I get it. He's talking about self love. That's important and that's necessary. Use practical steps. You you knock self improvement in the red pill space, but here you are giving self improve. 

Right. 

Like, here's this is what the cognitive dissonance is completely blowing me away right now. He knocks guys like Stephens Cold shout out to him. He knocks guys like CGA. He knocks guys like Joker and then here he is doing almost the exact same stuff that he's blaming them for doing, except in reverse. And to me it's it's coming across as hypocritical and that's why a lot of people have checked out of religion is because people are not real, they're they're pushing ideals that they themselves can't live up to. And it shows and they get pointed out, rightfully so or they're inadequacy. 

And once you start to ask yourself these questions and put in the work to heal these very things, you'll begin to peel back, layer and layer and layer. But we not strong enough to do it by ourselves. You need God. You need Jesus Christ. You need him. I'm one of them people that I was. I was one of the people that used to be like man, I don't know. I don't know about these guys though, man, I could do it on my own. 

See, now he see. He see. See, this is what it's getting me. This is what's getting me. Then correct me if I'm wrong in the comment section. Correct me if I'm wrong, this guy is coming at it from the opposite side of the spectrum. You know that analogy I just gave of the born again Christian, who's on fire for the church and on fire for God. And. They let everybody in their contact list and they phone know that this is what this guy is doing, he's blaming, saying that us guys. Or, you know, red pill. Whatever he's saying that we do. Not, but now he's doing the exact same thing in reverse. He's just gave it away. He just said he didn't used to care about this God stuff he didn't used to, you know, give two hoots about it now. He does now he's on fire for it. It's the same thing as the red pill you were living in a fantasy. You hadn't know any better. Suddenly you reality gives you a nice pimp slap in the face. And now you're like, everybody got to know the truth. I want to share the truth with everybody, and they're like, whoa, no, man, you crazy. I don't wanna listen to it. He's doing the same thing. I'm not trying to bash on him. I think he's trying to make a good point. But here's the issue guys like this. Are they're falling into the same category in reverse, that they're blaming a lot of content creators like myself and other guys on the Internet are doing, and it shows. Before you know it, they end up like this guy. In this last clip, we're going to show they'll they'll end up like this guy. Listen to this. 

Hey, Jim. So what is the red pill community? 

There are groups of men that have basically attributed much of their problems to the women's movement. That's the group of men who are anti feminist, who really have developed a belief system that women are actually in control of the society and that women hold privilege and they attribute. Much of of their problems to women. There's a link between the in cell movement and the red pill movement. It's based on misogyny, really entitlement. It's unfortunately something that is also LinkedIn. Lots of different ways to online violence. Some of their platforms on Reddit, for instance, have been banned because it's leading. 

Oh. 

To violence. So basically the red pill movement is groups of men that are projecting their problems onto women as the cause of. All of them. 

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Ohh hell no. 

Ohh this is so-called psychologist. Ohh my goodness, what a race. And then of course, you got all the women in the comments section calling saying that he's right, that the red pill guys are scary and blah, blah, blah, blah. Hey, you know, this is saying one of my favorite sayings from the New Testament is when Jesus is on the cross and he says, father, forgive them. But they know not what they do. The gentleman, we gotta have that same mentality. Don't get mad at guys like. This don't get mad at them. Why? Because that's what they want you to do. They want you to get mad. They want you to be like what? You know what you're talking about and eat. Rightfully so. But then they're gonna come across as angry and he's gonna say look, see, they're in my comment section. They're the problem. He gentleman. This is the average schmuck. In the world is that guy right there? He is the voice of tons of men. And they don't know any better, and they don't want. They don't know what they don't know. And they're know there's no saving them. You can't save them. They don't. They're they don't want to be saved. Don't save them. He's not only apply to the hose. No, we don't. It applies to the dudes, too, who they don't want to see the light. They want to be all here simping. They want to be out here doing these things. Let them let them do these things. It makes the game better for us. And you can't help people if they want to be helped. You can help them. They don't want to be helped. Then let them go. Let them go out there and put on them. They they sip suit and let them go out there and look ridiculous to to guys who know what's going on and. And for girls who are honest about what's going on. Gentleman. But he also highlighted the idea of the Red pill rage that we've been talking about today and how we need to get out of this mindset. One of the guys in my comment section a little while ago got mad at me for mentioning coach Greg Adams. I don't mention him because I, you know, think he's the best thing ever. I mentioned him because I think he's very a lot of people steal his content in plain English, and when I I've watched him for at least a couple of years now and I think he. Has a lot of right ideas. I don't always agree with the stuff he says, but I think he's right about a lot of things he says. And he did an A he's on multiple videos about red pill rage and it's interesting to see a guy from who's older. The reason I like to watch him is because he's almost 50. I'm half his age. He's 48. I'm 24. I'm half his age. I've learned so much about life from an older guy and to me that's how one of the ways you get out of red pill rage is you learn you're willing to learn and not just be emotional and angry. And so when we get in this idea of. The truth and ideals, the religion and the kind of red pill type. Truth philosophy. Coming together, it's not impossible. We just need to be careful. 

With. 

Agreeing with things that we like disbelieving things blindly, I had never understood, even when I was a kid in in Sunday school class, I grew up in the church. I'll remind people of that over and over. I grew up in the church. I'm not a Johnny come lately with theology. I grew up. In the church. And so I remember people just accepting they didn't understand things. And there are still parts of the Bible I don't understand, and I'm always trying to understand it. And frankly, the search for God is part of the human condition. And so that's why when we talk about being a biblical bachelor, it's not just following a certain denomination or a certain pastor or a certain philosophy. It's about understanding that the search for God is the the finding of God in itself, in a lot of ways. And we need to tie that in with the pursuit of truth, which. Is what the. Whole pursuit of our existence is as men, especially men in the space we're pursuing. The truth we're trying to make sense of the world and our. And then by doing so, find our own place in it. That is our entire goal. At least that's mine. We are projecting onto you, but that's what I've always thought of this community, this type of community being like now, understanding that we are searching for a purpose in a world that doesn't. Care about us? And we're not going to lash out at the world, because that doesn't do anyone any good. We're just going to find our niche. We're going to find our community. We're going to find like minded people with like minded hobbies and then we're going to just live our lives. And hopefully at the end of it, we have less regrets and more things to be thankful for, period. My friends let me know, do you think it's possible to be both religious and part of the red pill space? I think it is, but I would love to hear what you. Have. To say, but please share with it me share with me and the other men in this space the comments. Below. If you if you disagree, I'm not gonna get mad. Probably even like your comment, because I appreciate that you have the willingness to voice your opinion. My friends, you take care of yourselves. Always think for yourself. Use logic over feelings. I look forward to seeing what you have to say. I'm out peace. 

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