Ohh my goodness really. Ohh now it's about men valuing women. How about women valuing men and what they do for them every day of the week? How about we talk about that? Because that's not discussed enough by the Conservatives by libertarians, politicians, social media commentators, nobody seems to notice that except for dudes in the space. That's it. Nobody cares about it. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Sheep Get Sheared Podcast. I'm your host, Austin Creed, and my friends today we're going to discuss. Why your favorite conservative content creator is not talking about relationships and the realities thereof, you know. I haven't heard anybody else use this exact example, but I'm. Gonna. High near this, as it were, there's this idea that I've come up with. That's kind of pulled from. The church and from the Reformation, which is that this idea of Puritans versus pragmatists. So Puritans are people who were very idealistic. They were very hey, this is the way things should be. This is the way they ought to be. And so we're going to hold this extremely high standard up here. Pragmatists are a little more realistic. They're a little more. Hey, you know what we see? The realities of life. We see how things can play out practically. And so we're going to go for kind of almost a compromise of using these ideals. But we're more in the truth area. This is the way things are instead of. This is how it ought to be. And unfortunately, a lot of tracons or traditional conservatives, they use this ideal, this ideation. And of. Puritanism in regards to relationships. And in regards to politics in general, which I mean, everything is political now. I I remember when I grew up, politics wasn't dipping its beak into every single beaker of the entire society, but today it's almost unavoidable. Wherever you turn on, whatever you listen to, whatever appears on your screen, something has some political subtext. Behind it. And so while this show is not always about politics, it definitely comes up. And so for us to not address it, we'll be doing ourselves a disservice. So today I have a couple of examples of. Content creators the conservative types, discussing relationships and seeing why a lot of them shy away from this really controversial conversation. And gentlemen you especially ladies, if you're listening, you can relate to this as well we. We see the harsh realities of relationships and the ancients, whether it's Socrates, Plato, Aristotle. All of these types they've written about relationships, the dynamics and what not from the get go. They've discussed this at length. If you read the ancients, you'll realize that nothing is really new under the Sun. It just seems like it because we have technology access to information, we've overcomplicated things that men. And women who lived long before us figured out a long time ago, and I've said this before, and I know some of you are going to immediately dismiss this, and I don't blame you. It's gonna come off in a way that you're not used to hearing, but I'm going to say it anyway. Men and women were born equal. With equal ability to manipulate and. With equal leverage over the other for men, it's usually more we're physically stronger versus women are usually more emotionally savvier than we are as men. And because the technology. Because of the emasculated culture we live in, a lot of us are not in tune with the physical side. And have been completely and utterly exploited to the hellscape on the emotional side. And a lot of us, we've seen this in real time. If you're older, you've seen this slow and gradual descent. If you're young, this is all you've ever known. And for me, this is really all I've ever known. I've seen bits and pieces when I was a little bit younger, but it wasn't. Better it was just slightly less obvious so. I'll give you a little bit of red meat right out the gate. Chew it slowly. Do what your mother said. But well, before we pull up the clips. I would like to invite you to say your piece to let your voice be heard even if I don't like what you have to say. I'd rather you say it because it creates dialogue. It creates conversations that most people are too afraid to have. Or if you're on Twitter, it just immediately descends into an entire. Garbage can dumpster fire, and that's not what we're trying to do. We're trying to have frank conversations about how the truth and ideals merge together, and we can have the most practical way to live out our lives. That's in in line with the philosophical or religious standards that we have. Speaking of standards, let's go to Ben Shapiro. Lot of you know. He is. I don't agree with a lot of things he says or done, especially in regards to Candace Owens. But he says a lot of things that I think are right on the money, whether he believes it or not is a different story. But we're gonna listen to him. And what he says on marriage. Take it away, please, Mr. Shapiro. 

Really gave up on marriage a lot too soon. OK. Marriage was the best thing ever for women. It is an amazing. It's an amazing thing for men too, because it civilizes them. It cultures them and teaches them to be protectors of their family and to take care of people and to think beyond themselves and to think beyond their generation. Women gave up and marriage a way to teach men to do those things and also women. Gave up the idea that a commitment was going to come along with this intimacy. And let's be real about this. I mean, every scientific study ever done has shown that women actually do have better sex in the context of committed relationships. All of the crap that you see in Cosmo magazine about sleeping with 100 guys and being sexually happy is just garbage. It is just sheer, unadulterated garbage. 

We'll tell that to the feminists who seem to be loving and eating it up every second of it. I mean, look, gentlemen, this is what we're talking about when I say this ideological standpoint. Is he factually? 

Not. 

Not from my where I'm standing. No. But one thing I think he did leave out. That is incredibly important, is incredibly important and pregnant in this conversation. Is this idea of domesticating men? Most men are already domesticated. You ever read the story or watched the Disney adaptation of viewing the Beast? Of course, you have. Most people have. Do you know why women love vampire novels? Werewolf movies, the the idea of this beast of a man being rugged and edgy and whatnot. But then this woman comes in and she turns this beast into a man. You know why? Women find that so romantic because that is what every woman on a biological level wants to do for her man. If the man's already domesticated, he is boring, uninterested in. She gets entirely uninterested very quickly. That is why, when we look at the traditional dynamics between men and women, the man is typically more of a beast and the woman slowly tries to make this man less of a beast and into a better balanced man. Now, today, the government education system entertainment does that for them. So they don't even need to do that anymore, and that's why they go for Pookie. You know who pookie is, right. Pookie's the guy who they deal drugs at her high school. The guy who rode the low rider, who told the teachers to shut the F up. He was the edgy dude who got all the chicks at a very young age. Now he peeked out and she got over him, found out he was a loser and had a dusty and broke by the time she turned about 25 to 30, he most of the time. But This is why young women love these edgy, you know, borderline abuse of men. No, I'm not justifying anything I'm saying. This is how it works. And if you don't believe me, please take a walk outside. Go on the Internet and look this stuff up. Ask a woman what she reads in the moment. You go to a Barnes and noble. And look at the romance novel section and look at what you have to deal with here you have stalk. Yours. You have werewolves, vampires, fairies. All of these, you know, grizzled veteran dudes whose wife gets butchered. Whatever you this is what you see in the romance novel section. It's not the kind and noble, wonderful chivalrous guy. I mean sometimes, but even then, he usually starts off. Complete opposite or if he is those chivalrous nice guy, he has a lot of money and a lot of power and everything else. This is what is being left out of the conversation and why a lot of men who are nice. Boots feel as though they're being left behind. They're like, well, we're gonna say they want this from me, and yet I can't seem to. I seem to be giving them what it is they say they want, but then I'm not getting the results I've been promised. And the answer? Is right baked into it because you're not being told the whole truth. I've made this entire analogy before on this show. And it's when you say you are applying for a job, right? And it says we're looking for someone who is really good with people, good team player is very good at communicating about, you know, themselves and to their teammates and all that kind of stuff. And you're like, oh, well, that's great. That describes me. I can do that. And then you Click to apply and right as you're about to do that. You look below and you see the fine print and it says must have bachelor's degree, must have X number of years of experience. Must have good recommendation, must have this and must have that. That is the fine print in the job application, that they don't advertise up front in the same way that women don't advertise, they want a guy who's 6 feet six, has a six pack, he makes a six figure job and all these things. Does this mean that a woman won't change that for you if? You're that guy. No. But you see, this is what you're it's what you're not being told that is entirely derailing the conversation, which is why I bring up the the Puritans and the pragmatists, because the Puritans will leave that part out because they don't like the fact that it's true. So what they'll do instead is they'll leave it out the pragmatist. And bring it up, and then they'll get persecuted for bringing it up because they it's not about what you said in the content. It's what you what they felt in the context. That's what they didn't like. Speaking of what they didn't like. In context and everything, let's go to Matt Walsh, one of Ben Shapiro's good friends on the Daily wire, and let's see what he has to say. Very, very popular comment on content creator on YouTube and on TikTok and in the conservative space. Let's see what he has to say about relationships, shall we? 

It's just not true, OK? It's just not true that a life of obscene luxury and materialism and selfishness and self-service and of, you know, sleeping with many different women and and and all of that, it's not true. That that is the ideal, much less is it, is it what we are biologically programmed to desire? No. It's what we're culturally programmed to desire. That is the cultural programming. If I could do my life over from the start, I would find my wife again and marry her again. If I lived 100 lives, I'd marry her in all of them. 

What? Oh. No it isn't. 

That's what it means to love somebody. And love is the ideal. 

Oh, oh, hell no. You lied to me. 

OK. Wow, you see, this is the problem right here. This is the garbage that so many men are told. This is the garbage that is pushing the church. This is the garbage that you see on social media. And this is the sewage, the sewage. That is being pushed on young men into hitting themselves, hitting their bodies, being misguided and undecided. This is why you are seeing what you're seeing in young men today. They're they're totally ignoring biology. Ohh, so you mean the Ancients who wrote about sowing, sowing their oats and? I'm picking the the, the, the cherry blossoms and the and the the the flowers. You know what that was? You knew what that was. You didn't tell me. That men are not biologically programmed to get with as many women as possible. That is nonsense. Complete and utter lies. That is exactly the opposite of the truth. Men since the beginning of time. Why do you think God said be fruitful and multiply? Do you think he said that? And ohh you know I I know you only want one woman. No. No, no one has ever done that. The only time the only men who only want one woman are men who can't get more than one woman they can. Yes. Because they have no options, no opportunities, and nothing going on that's that's like someone saying ohh I wouldn't spend $100,000 on a new pair of shoes. You don't even have $100,000, much less to spend on shoes. Of course you wouldn't, because you can't. It's the same thing when it comes to women. The men who want to sit there and be like ohh I would. I would find my wife all over again and marry her. Ohh really you mean to tell me you will live a completely different life? Is this? Is this A is? Is this an anime now? Am I? Am I listening to some fantasy romance novel now or ohh. You know, for 1000 I could search for 1000 years but I would find you again my love people only say that to *** ****. The whole thing is just ridiculous, but OK, I get it. I get it. You want to believe it? You like the way it sounds? You like the way it feels. So you wanna believe it? OK, alright, alright, fine. Well, if that's the case. Then how do you explain that? They're the marriage rates are going down and the divorce rates are going up. How do you explain all these things? Well, there's a gentleman right here who's gonna attempt to explain this to us and let me know what to think. You agree or disagree? 

I've got a new question for you guys. Why do you think guys no longer want to get married? 

Ohh, I don't think we're ready for that conversation. See, I've been happily married for about 8 years. Actually. We've been married that long. We've never even had. A fight. 

What? 

I have a huge advocate for marriage, but here's the problem. There's a lot of reasons why people aren't getting married now. And it's not just because men don't want to get married. One we have devalued marriage when everyone thinks they have to move in together, date somebody for six years, and do all these different things before you even might consider marrying somebody. You have devalued marriage. Basically. Let me take it off for a test drive before I make a commitment. So let me live with you for a while before I even make a decision. Well, then you have all the benefits of being married, living together without the actual covenant, without the actual promise with each other. Two, when it comes to divorces or things that might happen, you know the risk of being married. Oftentimes the courtside with a woman when it comes to child custody. City and. 

No kidding. There are probably men in this comment section right now who will tell you stories about their very amicable divorce. And I mean that sarcastically. Gentleman, when we look at a guy like this. What? Do. You see, I'll tell you what I see. I see a guy who says I haven't been in an argument with my wife. That means one of two things. One, your marriage is perfect, which I doubt. Or two you've been a complete sub this whole time and you were the one who caves into what she wants and based upon your tone of voice and your look, I can see the second one being true. And I'm not trying to diss this guy. I don't know him. I'm just pulling it as I see it. And if you think that that's being mean, I don't know what to tell you. 

In things like that. Now granted nowadays is that they're getting a little bit better about shared custody, but generally speaking. 

No, they're not. 

It doesn't go in the man's favor. 

Don't fall for that. It's not getting better. 

Three, we tell people all the time now that they should get married early. In life, you. Know. Ohh. You know you're 20 years old. 22. You're too early to get married. 

No, no, no. You see, here's the problem. Men aren't being told that women are the ones being told that not men. Men are more. I know men personally, and this might be anecdotal. I know men personally who are the same age as me. They're married. So don't sit here and tell me that it's the dudes are not wanting to get married out here. If you're talking about men, you're talking about a very small percentage of men at the very top of the food chain who don't have to be married because they have so much poonani. Don't know what to do with all of it. Those are not the average dude average dude has like, what, seven partners of the course of his entire life. So don't say here and tell me that the average guy wouldn't be happy to be married. Oh. Yes, he would. Ohh yes he would. He'd still take the risk even though the risk is completely stacked against him, he'd still do it. But The thing is, he can't even do it today. And thank God the men are waking up to this deception. Let's continue. 

You know, live your life and. Enjoy it? Which? Implies that. You won't enjoy life afterwards if you. Get married. So a lot of people live until they're about 30 or whatever and single or just dating casually might have some kids with some people and they go well, you know, lifes been pretty good this up to this point. Why get married? Because we really have become more career focused than family focused. 

Again. Who is this we were talking about you talking about you? Men, women, aliens. Who are we talking about? The church. Who is we? Who is? 

We. 

Now we have also become very self focused as a selfish culture. You know, do what makes you happy. 

Again. We are being so subtle and we're not being direct about the issue here and it's making it. It's getting me really mad, but I'm gonna hold my tongue. 

Not realizing that if you get in a marriage you are committed to somebody else and when you are committed to somebody else, you serve that other person's selflessly and actually in a way that actually becomes more fulfilling than if you weren't. And you're only living for yourself. 

This good, this dude better be talking to women because they are the ones filing a divorces. And if you ask lawyers which will get to a lawyer in a. Looking when you talk to lawyers as someone who's gone, gotten my undergrad in pre law and who wants to go to law school, let me tell you something. The lawyers will tell you that in divorce courts, the women are the ones who want retribution. And usually the dude walks in there and he's like, all right, all right, I'm. I'll split things up, 5050. I want my kids 50% of the time. I want to move on, the woman says. Ohh. No. I'm gonna make an example out of this guy and I better get what I'm owed. That's how it normally works. You ask any divorce attorney who's honest and they'll tell you that. I'll tell you that I met them. I've had this conversation. But guess what? He better be talking about that, because if he wants to pin this on men, are we about to get real heated right now? Because this dude is setting you up for failure. If he's saying this is men's fault? Ohh hell no. I don't think so. 

Oh, hell no. 

So the culture just keeps doing this, and we keep promulgating it. And again, if you want people to get married, men, you have to value women more than just for someone to have fun. 

Ohh. 

Of course he pins it back on men. Of course he does, because that's what everyone seems to do. Ohh my goodness. Bro, I want him to believe in you. You were anakin. You were the chosen one. You failed me. I I was kind of with you kind of going in, going out of what you were saying and now you lost me. Oh my goodness. Really. Ohh, now it's about men valuing women. How about women valuing men and what they do for them every day of the week. How about we? Talk about that. Because that's not discussed enough by the Conservatives by libertarians, politicians, social media commentators, nobody seems to notice that except for dudes in the spa. 

Thanks. 

That's it. Nobody cares about it. 

One with and hook up with or whatever women if you want. 

Women are the gatekeepers. Intimacy, Sir, not men. If men try to do that, it's a crime. So don't blame men for hookup culture. Why would you blame men for hookup culture? That doesn't make any sense. Women are the ones of the gatekeepers to intimacy, Sir. If men try to circumnavigate that, they go to straight to jail. What are you talking about? 

And to value you in marriage, then don't give up all the stuff that a man is supposed to earn in marriage. You know, sex, living with you, all the benefits of living and doing the thing together that those are valuable. I know this is unpopular. 

OK, OK, OK, good. Now he's actually starting to say something that's that makes sense. OK. How long will this last? 

Nowadays, I know it's extremely unpopular nowadays, but that's the reality. There's a reason why in the Golden Age of America, essentially you have couples that were married at an extremely early age and were married for 60 plus years. Nowadays, marriages end in only a few, and that's because we don't value each other. We don't value marriage and. 

Gonna be shocking. 

We're not telling people to live. Selflessly. 

No, that's only part of the reason. The other part of the reason is because your friend Ronald Reagan, was the first one to pass no fault divorce in 1969. In California, which then was adopted in some variant form across the entire all 50 states of the United States, which then in the 70s, the divorce rate doubled. And then? So you really think there's not a correlation at the very least, or causation at? Best. What do you think? I think there might be. 

So I think there's a lot of reasons for it, but I think those are some of the big ones. We have devalued marriage and therefore we have devalued men and women. 

I I definitely think he danced around the issues a little bit, but overall. See what is wrong with people saying it the way it is. You want to hear someone say it the way it is. This is James Sacks and he's a lawyer. He's apparently got a decent size channel. Now shout out to him. But he is a divorce lawyer. I have met men like him in school. One of the most judge. They are very jaded and they will tell you the truth straight to your face, and I mean jaded like they're they're stupid or they're damaged. They just have had the complete scrub off of all the romance and the cherry colored lenses being scrubbed off of them multiple times over. Let's see what he has to say. About divorce and marriage. 

If you break it down, fundamentally, if 56% of marriages end in divorce, like, think about that's the ones that end in divorce. So how many people? What percentage stay together for the kids? Or because they don't give away half their **** another 10%, that's conservative. But let's say let's say 20% then OK, you now have a technology that fails 76% of the time. That's insane. 

That's at least right. 

Attention Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro and all these other schmucks who want to pretend like this is not an issue. Yeah, I have a big. True. But This is why your traditional conservative friends, the media, don't like to discuss this because it's not popular because the normies don't like to hear this. They think ohh, I'm not gonna be a statistic, Austin. It's gonna be fine. All you gotta do is all you gotta do is all you women. All you gotta do is do the chores, all you. Gotta do is just do the housework. OK. 

This is getting weird. 

That's insane. That's more likely than not 76 per if I tell you, there's a 76% chance when you walk out the door today, you get hit in head with a bowling ball. You would not go out or you'd wear a helmet for sure. But people just continue to get married. Not only do they continue to get married, there's a presumption. 

Bingo. 

That you should get married, and if you don't get married, there's something wrong with you. So if you've got a girlfriend and you've been with her for five years and you say to someone, we're getting married. They go oh. That's great. You know, they don't go. Why? You're happy? Why would you get married like everything's going fine? 

Why would you see this is the normal? Mindset that I talk about on this show the the oxygen thieves, the, the, the people who are robots, real life robots. You wanna talk about AI? People are like robots out here. They're so. Brainwashed with what they think is good, what they think is bad. They don't question anything, and this is what James Saxon is talking about. He's saying you're so brainwashed. That if you walked outside and you thought someone was gonna fall on your head, and there's a 76% chance you got hit in the head of the bowling ball, you probably wouldn't just walk outside. You take precautions. You'd be careful. You'd minimize that risk. But people don't do that with marriage. People don't do that in relationships because ohh, that's toxic. Ohh, that's not good. We don't like that. And it's seen as a morally good thing to do to just jump in. Ohh my land. If I told you that you had a 76% chance of walking outside and A and a robber was standing out there with a proverbial Glock to your head and said, give me half of the stuff in your wallet, you probably wouldn't do that, right? But yet you'll do that. 20 years from now when they fleece you for half of your stuff and the family court system, I mean, come on, man. 

Would you put yourself? Through that, why would you run that risk? If you say to someone we've been together five years and we've decided we're not going to get married, we're gonna move in. Together. But we're. Not going to get married. Ohh. What's wrong? Get intimacy issues. What's your problem? We will set 56% and in divorce it's it's literally fits the legal definition of negligence. It's a negligent behavior. 

I wasn't even gonna talk about that, but I'm glad that he did. 

The way you define negligence in law school is when what you lose by not doing something OK. Is lower than the risk of harm. It's what's called a BPL analysis, so the burden of not doing a thing is lower than the likelihood. The probability of harm. So. 

I'm glad he points this out because I learned about this in my law classes in college. You can literally and this is not legal advice. I'm not. I don't have a lot of degree yet, but what I will tell you is based on my understanding. You can literally sue people for negligence. But. In the marriage context, it could fit the definition of negligence, but yet you're volunteering for a potentially negligent situation that you're gonna have to pay for to get out of. That's how ridiculous it is. If you look at it from a logical perspective and not one of romance. 

And love BPL, the burden probability and loss. Marriage is an inherently negligent. Activity. It's like owning a lion. Like it it's it's. The likelihood of someone getting hurt seriously by this. 

And. 

Michael tells you. 

Is very, very high. No one. Ever says it to you? Because why? Because. And and I'm I would say something. I've been doing this for over 20 years and I I still get misty eyed at weddings. Like I still really there's something in me that goes like, you know, maybe it'll workout for these two. 

I'm so glad he pointed that out. I was going to point that out, but I was like, yeah, and I don't think people are ready for that, but I'm glad he pointed out the negligence aspect of it. So this might be a little too legal, jargon heavy for people, but this is something that when you get into the legal field, you you care a lot about. And. I'm loving the fact that a lot of divorce lawyers are discussing this more and more on YouTube, on TikTok, on these platforms, and on on Instagram on Twitter because this is something most people most normies, most ostriches, who put their head in the sand types they don't want to accept this reality and. It's very apparent and it's very in your face. It's being them in your face. I thought I'd share something funny with all you on the show today. I was on clear last night. And I'll show you. I'll show you something that came up on my timeline. Don't worry, it's not YouTube. Don't don't trip. This is not some. I know that there are different rules, but this is not something that's bad. So I saw this post. It says 2 great reasons not to be non heterosexual. And you see a picture of a woman's jugs in one of. Her hips and I said, huh? OK, so women basically are saying, hey, don't, don't sexualize us, but then proceed to post this. And this is a woman, by the way, who posted this. And then here's what I I wanted to troll, and here's what I said. I said two reasons to be not straight, and then I said put a Jif GIF, whatever you call it, of Donald Duck was saying child support when he's counting money. And then I wanted divorce on the other side. Yeah. And I thought it was funny. And apparently people, people got people got kind of mad about that. They were like, ohh, that's messed up. It was funny, man, but UM, see, this is the kind of thing you have to you have to find truth. There has to be some kind of humor. There's no humor present. You. You can go crazy looking at this kind of stuff. You can go crazy from it because the world is full of hypocrisy. Half truths. Cool deceptions. And this is one of the reasons why I bring up the Puritan versus the pragmatist argument. Because when you. You when you only will accept the ideal, you're going to be disappointed, but when you approach things from a realistic point of view, you see things for how they are. You then could adapt and adjust to live a life that of maximum fulfillment possible while minimizing risky behaviors that could set you back. That could sabotage your success that you are achieving and This is why I bring this up, not so that you can resent anybody. Not that so you can be unhappy and Ray. Aged. But so that you can understand the realities that most people will not tell you or that will actively try to deceive you on, to exploit you. And so when we discussed this in very explicit detail, when we bring up uncomfortable truths and when we expose the biases and expose the underlying issues in society. Especially around relationships, which in my opinion. Are the most important decision you'll make in your life. I don't do it because I don't like people. I don't do it because I don't like a demographic. I do it because I myself almost gave a girl a promise to ring once. Yes, yes, I did. And you know what? I'm glad that it didn't work out for me. I'm glad that she cheated on me and I learned about it. And so guess what? I dodged the bullet. I don't resent her. Not for one second. Of course, a lot of people would stay in that resentment. Don't stay in it except the realities of the world cause the truth. Like it says in the Bible, the truth will set you free. It won't make you comfortable. It won't make you happy and never promises that promises you that it will set you free, but a lot of people they don't want to be free. They want to be free to be traditional. They want to be free to do what they want. But not be free to adjust and adapt and pay the price for the things that they desire. My friends, I encourage you to do your own research. Always think for yourself and not just accept what I say or anybody else says, because that's just not getting the full complete perspective. But until next time, my friends, please leave your comments and your stories below. I'd love to hear from you and if you like the video, you know what to do. I'm not going to beg. You know what to do. My friends. Take care of yourselves about here. Peace.