Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to sheep get sheared podcast. I'm your host, Austin Creed, and today my friends, we're talking about a dimension of relationships that I haven't touched on too much. I wrote a whole chapter about it. In my book Biblical Bachelor which. Talks in huge detail about why I believe what I believe, why I'm skeptical about marriage, but not only that. It is what ioffer as a solute potential solution to this problem and my friends, we're going to jump, right? In to why I believe it to be necessary for men to seek surrogates. Why would I say that? What even is a surrogate? What is he talking about? Well, my friends were talking about and. I'll give you a little background for those of you who don't know what you're listening to, don't know who you are. Don't know who I am. I firmly believe that when it comes down to it, the relationship dating marketplace, the sexual marketplace. 

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Stacked against men now, I'm not saying that you should then go. On and. Who's me? Untroubled and never was out to get. Me. No, no, no, no. We're not talking about. We're not talking about having that attitude. That's. Not a solution. Solution is OK so it's stacked against you. We don't like it, but what can we actually do about it? I'm just one man. You're just one man. Or one woman who's listening to the show. How do we? Get through our lives. Dealing with the uncomfortable realities we find ourselves in, well, that's a great question. And one of the answers I have is you have to decide for yourself what philosophy you want to adapt to survive this life and to get what you want. It's going to be free. Definitely not going to be easy, but if you want to succeed in this life, you cannot have it all at the same time. You can have it all. It's not all at the same time, and nothing in this life is free. If you're still stuck on. I'm trying to get things for free or for a very small fee. You're not ready for this. We're talking about a year and a half ago I decided that this was the path I'm going. Something that I've had in the works the last since. To take. So I'm talking about this path because this is the path I plan to. Take. For myself, going down the surrogacy path. Now, there are some men take them years and years to get to this point and that's OK. There is no single cop to success. There is no single path to your own prosperity. But the reason why I think mentioned see surrogates is because we're and we're. Going to explore this, by the way. Men, you are rolling the dice when you get into serious relationships like marriage and having children in a traditional traditional marriage monogamist structure, you are really putting yourself in a in a very weak position. I mean weak and you're a weak man. I mean, you don't have a lot of negotiating power. You have now entered the realm of whatever you do. You are wrong. It doesn't matter whether you make logical sense, it doesn't matter how much time or money or attention or time you've invested in this woman into your children, into their futures, their prosperity. That doesn't matter because you have the penis. You are the problem in the minds of the court and the minds, the people of public opinion. You are not as savvy in this game as women are. You could fight off a bear, but you can't fight off the burden of public opinion you can't find. The the stench from the bench with how they rule and how a lot of the family cores a mafia. You don't understand this and I have. I am learning this process myself so I don't claim to be an expert that knows everything, but I'm studying family law at the basic level and I'm learning about how the family law structure works and let me. Tell you. I understand why some family law attorneys will go to weddings or every time they go by a wedding and they see that just Mary on the back of someones car. They're like they they they look like Birdman rubbing their hands together like, oh, there's some future inventory right there. I got future clients lined up. Why? Because the divorce rates are out of control. And so for me this is a solution. A lot of men want to leave this legacy. It's part of our natural DNA, our biology, to want to pass on the next generation. For your grandfather, it was a little more simple than it is for you. But there's a solution out there, and part of the biblical bachelor lifestyle that I preach on this show is this idea of being a surrogate and not having the traditional marriage structure. So we're going to hop right into it with all my. All my talking out of the way, we're going to really explore this and we're going to look at a little more in depth of what we're talking about. So let's look at this gentleman and let's have him talk for a second. 

Gentlemen, check this comment out and check the thread that it's on, because what this gentleman is saying is spot on. If you want to have kids, surrogacy. Is an option and a valid one, and I've actually done some research on it and I'll briefly share it with you. So the most common questions that men have with regards to Syracuse see is where do I find someone to be a surrogate? How much is it going to cost and what happens if she wants the kids later? So let's delve into that. The first question where do I find someone? There are agencies out there that'll do it for a fee. You can also look in groups. There are surrogacy groups. Out there, it takes some work. I'll. I'll be honest with you, but you can find someone. 

I want to pause him. I don't mean to interrupt him. I just want to pause for one second because the videos are like almost 2 minutes. But I want to pause for a second gentleman. We need to break the we need to set the record straight and we need to break some people's hearts here. If you think getting married to a woman and having the traditional family is free, you are out of your mind. You're out of your mind. How could you say a thing like that? But I get it. When people talk about surrogacy, it's a lot of upfront costs. Yeah, it is. 

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Yeah, it's a lot of money. You know, it's a lot of money. Also paying for your wife and your kid and and even paying for your wife you before you have kids paying for all her student loan debt. Ohh yes. Women home. Most of the student loan debt in case you didn't know that paying for all of her decorations potentially. Paying for healthcare and paying for all these things that you don't car, insurance, car payments. The mortgage for the house your lifestyle is likely going to have to keep ramping up to impress her and keep her placated. That is not cheap. So when you hear this gentleman talk about the costs and all the work associated with surrogacy, don't think that it's more complicated than having a traditional relationship. No, it's just more upfront. Do you think? That it's more expensive. No, it's more expensive up front. You're paying more upfront versus in a traditional relationship, you're paying more and incrementally and a lot more on the back end. Let's keep going. And I didn't want to interrupt him, but I wanted to make sure that we all were on the same page. 

The cost it varies wildly, but generally a rule of thumb that I would give is somewhere around 100K, which sounds like a lot of money I know, but compare it to what you might pay in child support over, say, 18 years. 

Thank you very much. He's 100% correct. I I'm not seeing this all the way through. I won the raw reaction, but we're already on the same page. Fantastic. 

Let's say you make 100K and depending on your state, because the numbers vary, you're going to pay somewhere around 20K a year in child support. And that's all pre tax. You don't get to deduct any of that, so 100K for surrogacy versus 18 years of $20,000 of child support. Well, you do the math. 

Yep. See, that's exactly what I was just saying. You think you're paying 100 pay up front? Ohh, that's too much. That's a lot. I was getting married. And. Have kids? Ohh really. Ohh. He just lined up OK? And if you don't roll a Yahtzee, guess what? That's what you're going up. Child support alimony for an attorney, fees. That's what they're really going to get you. We'll explore that later. But again, this is what we're talking about. You don't have to do this. You could say it's an abomination. It's not ethical. I don't put you put any excuse you want, but this is an alternative solution to the tradition. You know, on one of my videos. Recently, a gentleman commented and I read to them sometimes and he talked about how he didn't agree with what I said, but he still wanted the tradition. I don't blame you, I really don't. I don't blame you for wanting it. Here's the problem. Though we talk about on this side of the Internet how we don't like the marriage laws, how we don't like where society is going, well, how do you think society has changed? Do you think for civil rights, people will have to be nice and just just take it even though they didn't like it? No, they demonstrated they striked. They did things that. Forced the government, the wheels of government to turn in their favor. They didn't just sit there in silence and complain about it. They did something not saying need to be violent saying. We need to put protest. No one's gonna do that, though. No one's gonna put together a protest in favor of men for family court laws. No one's gonna do that. Nobody will do that, though. Instead, what they'll do is they'll just take it lying down, because guess what? They're afraid. And they've been bullied and gaslighting everything by all the women, especially who benefit from this system. Let's, let's let them keep. OK. 

And then the third thing is what if she decides later that she wants the kid and comes looking for them? Contract is done right? And make damn sure you get a good lawyer to write one up. That is done right. Then she revokes all her rights as a parent. She can't come and take the kids from you. So if you're a man who wants to have children. And you're willing and able to put up the money to do so. I would strongly advise looking into surrogacy because then you get the children. You never have to worry about them being taken away from you, and you don't have to deal with all the drama of Mommy Hood. 

I mean, can anybody argue with the logical he laid that out really logically, very easy to follow. I appreciate him. You want to see the disgrace and this look at this comment section bro. This is terrible. Look at this. Look, look, look at this. Look at this. I disagree. Kids need a mom too. I'll tell that to the women. We wouldn't need surrogacy if they weren't suing men in family court for child support, alimony. All those bull crap while they go sleep with Chad, Pookie and Tyra. You know what I mean? He's not wrong inherently. They ideally you would do want the two parent household. Well, why would you try to roll for a Yahtzee when you don't need to? Why? This is the question that nobody seems to be able to answer. Why would I try to roll a Yahtzee when I don't have to? I could literally do. What I want to do I could say, hey, I'm going to bust my behind the building. What I want to build doing what I want to do and then when I have the money, I can get children. I don't have to go through the middleman, the woman. And then I have to go through this family court garbage. This the, the, the the. Why can't I pay a lawyer? Upfront for all this paperwork, instead of paying them on the back end of my divorce, which is statistically going to happen. Statistically, you're going to get divorced most likely. Yeah. You might roll a Yahtzee. Might write it out longer than most people, but statistically speaking, you're going to end up in either a a sexless marriage or being a divorce. You take your pick and you might roll Yahtzee and not be one of those two groups. But statistically speaking, you're going to end up. One of those two groups, so you can do that or you cannot do that and you can go and decide what you want to do instead. Your choice. Because I'm confused. It must men preach their daughters need father figures. Don't sons need mother figures as well as well? Not necessarily. I mean again, you can replicate a mother figure. You do realize that even. If you are not married to a woman, you can still have, like grandmothers, maids, girlfriends, whatever. They could play this role just like, you know, if you actually care about doing that, you can make that happen again. Everybody wants to make these excuses. But they don't wanna. They'll they'll go through with it. It's that's like signing a contract, you know, sucks and then complaining that you signed that contract. It's like, but you signed the contract. You knew it was suck, but you signed it anyway. Whose fault is that? At that point, it's not hers. It's yours. One thing. If you don't know when you sign it, it's another if you know. So you could. Get a raw deal and you sign in anyways. I don't negotiate for people like that. I'll negotiate with lawyers. I'm not negotiating with somebody else off this. That's ridiculous. Why would I do that? Why in the world would I do something like that? I don't benefit from. That at all. Another guy I wish I knew this ten years ago. Good off, see. Here's the thing. Let's go. Let's go to the opposition. OK, I think, I mean, my point on that. Let's go to the opposition. The opposition is the women, the women say. You know, the single mothers, they're like, oh, these dead beat dads out here, you know, and they all want, they all walk away. They don't help me, blah, blah blah. Which is a lie, by the way. Most men want to be in their kids lives, but they just can't afford or they're just going to wash their hands because they're sick of the the mom, sick of the the court. They're sick of. The mother trying to ruin their lives. They're sick of this garbage. So they check out and they say forget you forget, you Bish, I'm going somewhere else. But let's look at Joel like Jordan Peterson Cook for a second, shout out to Jordan. 

Peterson, a model look, I'll tell you, there are plenty of men who are not very happy about the model of female custody, and that would. And that would include the what is it? 85% of men who are essentially denied 5050 custody when they divorced and have young child. 

The point I'm making is that. 

Yes. Is true. 

So I wouldn't think that one of our major problems, or at least a major unidimensional problem, is the proclivity of men to foist off the custody of their children onto women. There's certainly another side of that argument. 

Oh my God. 

And yet, that's the exact argument that women. Like to use. When it comes to uh, these deadbeat men, even though I chose a guy who I knew was no good, it's not my fault because he has the penis. It's his fault, yeah. Women are there for the party. They're not there to for the responsibility. I'm not saying that as a slight against them. I'm just telling you as a man. That's what you're dealing with. That's what you're dealing with. And I'm not saying it's make you resent women or to resent the world. I just want you to realize that the world is not what you've been led to believe. You've been led to believe, especially by your mom, your grandma, maybe even your dad. Because he was probably hadn't pecked. Most likely you were led to believe that. Ohh. You know, women are sugar, spice and everything nice. And it's those bad. Nasty. Then you know who hurt them and damaged them, and then it's their fault. I tell you something, uh, if when people have this thing called agency, they make their own choices. And when you make choices or sometimes the lack of a choice leads to a certain outcome. I don't care if it's 10% or 100%. You are responsible for every situation you are in, whether it's more or less, you're never 100% not involved with what happened to you. If you walk down an alley and you get mugged, you chose to walk down that dark, dangerous alley as a shortcut instead of taking the safe route. And then you got mugged. So whose fault is it? The guy that you got mugged? The person from mugging you or for you? Putting yourself in the position to get mugged? I'm not saying it's. I'm not saying they have a right to mug you. I'm saying that you need to realize when you put yourself in a bad situation, something bad happens to you. You can't throw. Your hands will be like what happened to me. I even though I put myself in this situation, I can't believe it happened. No, no, we don't play that over here. No. No, I'm not saying people should have a right to to hurt you or to to commit a crime. I'm saying that when you put yourself in that position and it happens. Don't put yourself in the position of how that happen. Just don't do it so that you avoid the whole problem and single mothers fall in that category. They pick men who are not good men who are sharks. Who are beasts and they want to act like Belle and try to turn a beast into a Prince and it doesn't work. And then we end up having this conversation about who these men ain't these men ain't anything. They're not good. These men are trash, blah, blah, blah. I got three kids by three other men, but it's not my fault. Even though I'm the common denominator. Let's go on the let's look about me, man. Let's see what this gentleman has to say about this issue. Shall we? Again, self ties in the circusy, by the way. This is why I preach it. Because again, unless you roll a Yahtzee, you're dealing with this garbage. Let's go ahead. 

Mothers are literally the worst parents on the entire planet. That's the first thing and statistics back that so 70 / 70% of young men that grow under a single mother, single mother in particular end up in prison and. I think if I'm not mistaken, 68% of young women that grow up under a single mother in particular end up a single mother herself. But when it comes to a two parent family and a single father's household, a young man has a 90% chance. Of never going to prison, and that is one of the biggest differences. Why we. Men have to go get our children from these freaking women. That is an issue because the reason why so many of us are messed up is because we were all or most of us were raised by women, which are the worst parents on the entire planet statistical wise. 

Again, I'm not saying that all the statistics are inherently true. I've heard those numbers before, but again. We're going up this from a statistical standpoint. We're not saying that they're bad people. We're saying that they're not good parents from a statistical standpoint. Well, what do you think the comment section said about this? What would you guess they said about this? It's not the single mothers, it's the absent fathers. Gentlemen, let's be clear about something. Statistically, speak again. No mention. Let's look at this. No mention of numbers. No numbers, no statistics. No statistics, no statistics, no statistics. Again, there are. There's nothing. None of these women who are, or these **** ***** men have anything to do with science and everything to do with their own self esteem being at risk. Statistically speaking, it is the fathers who are alienated and thrown out of the family structure, and unless they spend every single dime they have. Out their disposal to 5050, not even full custody now, but 5050 custody. Must they break the other bank account and set themselves back decades financially? They're they're absent fathers, you hear you Can you believe this? Abandoned. Really. How about you and your alienation, Mrs. I probably divorced my husband. A dad who isn't around. Oh, well, I'm so glad you brought that up. Why is he not around? Could it be that he was divorced? Grabbed. Could it be that he lost half the stuff that he's living in his car? Could it be that all of a sudden he's having to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to even see his kids who are half him? He's on the birth certificate. But yet for some reason, because he has a penis he can't, he has to pay the penis tax. I'm going to family court again. Gentlemen, this is what you risk when you get in a traditional relationship where all of you end up like this. No, no, you won't. Well, some of you. Oh, yeah. Well, majority of you be at risk for this or some variation thereof. Yes. Yes, you will. And I know we don't like to talk about that. It's a rough reality. That's not comforting. I understand that. And at the end of the day, you're going to do what you want to do. I'm not telling you you have to do it this way. What I'm saying is, there are other options out here if you want to walk away, if you want to not deal with the family court system. Or put yourself into a government contract, which we call marriage but don't have to take my word for it. Let's hear a family law attorney talk about this issue. Take it away, Sir. 

All right. I'm gonna speak real to some of you dads out there and I think a lot of you're not going to want to hear the. This there's a lot of perceived bias out there against that. The court system is against that and I am not going to tell you that there are not some stereotypical situations where that's true, but I want to tell you three things that if you are doing this and this is stereotypical too. But if you are doing these things. The court system is going to be against you and the first one is. This if you do not fight for custody. If Mom is keeping you from the child and you do not go to court and fight for custody, you are going to lose eventually. 

Notice he said the word fight and say try to be involved. He didn't say contribute, he didn't say Co parent, he said. Fight like we at Fight Night or we in the the WWE. Like like we in a street brawl. Like we got to fight. Not like a like. Like a fisticuffs type of fight. He didn't say put in work, he said. Fight. Legally getting a a legal battle is a war. And you're gonna find a war of attrition in the court system. Trust me, this. I'm studying pre law right now. Hoping to go to law school someday. I'm telling you, I see this stuff almost every day when it comes to learning how the. Law. Works it is. There, it's like a spiders web and if you don't pay attention, you got to get got. Let's let them continue. 

It's just a matter of time you are going to have to stand up for yourself in that situation and enforce your rights to see this child. The second one is this. If. You are working too many hours and you're working in irregular schedule and you are doing things that will make it difficult for a child to have regular time with you. And again, I am talking stereotypes. There are moms that fall into this category too, but if that is you, you are going to have a problem when you get to court and judges will have seen these scenarios. From dads before and then the last one is this. If your main concern is. Money. If you are there to reduce your child support, if you are there because you feel like you are paying too much child support. If you are there simply for the fact that you think that this mom is on this gravy train and you know she's rolling in and your child support payments and all those parts, you are not going to win. That is not a scenario that would justify changing custody, so you're going to have to make these changes to get there. You're going to have to be involved in school, you're going to have to be involved with medical trips, you're going to have to do all these things, and you may be doing them already. And if you are and you don't fit into these categories. Talk to a lawyer. You should be able to have your rights enforced in those scenarios. But we've got to take some accountability here for this problem too, as dads. 

Ohh yes. Ohh yes, the take accountability as a dad. Where's the accountability? If you don't want to have a penis where where? Where is that accountability out? Oh, that's right. Nowhere to be found. Apparently. Again, the Otis is put on you as a man to enforce your rights in. In his words, fight. Fight. How in the? World do these kids have a chance if they're two people? That they love the most in their life are at war with each other. How is that? Possible. How can you give your kids the best chance possible when you're spending a lot of their money that should be going towards their future cause. Make no mistake about it. Divorce is a generational wealth. Destroyer. How in the world are you supposed to provide for your children and their future college, helping them get get put in a position where they're not desperate for an incoming job? How do you provide that when you're spending? You're fighting the war on 2 fronts? You're fighting your own war and this war against this person who hates you more than they love the kids. How is that possible? Answer it's not possible and that's why you have to roll a Yahtzee. And if you're going to. Make this work. And the people that you're making this agreement with, the government and the woman. They benefit from the contract being breached, not honored, breached, so therefore by friends, you have to either try to roll Yahtzee. Or you have the opportunity to go on your own path if you have the courage to do it. It's available to you now, whether it's, you know, my path to being a biblical bachelor or it's something completely different that you want to come up with yourself, that is up to you. But that's why I tell you that men should seek surrogates because it gives you. The most freedom. And it minimizes the BS that you'll have in your life. And trust me, you'll face enough of it without all the stuff that extra stuff added on. Top of it. My friends, please leave your thoughts, comments, concerns and and if any questions you might have I can try to answer them. I'm not an expert legally or with servicing yet, which I hope to be in the next 10 years. 

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No, I guarantee you this will not be the last time I talk about this topic, but my friends in the meantime, I encourage you to question everything that you heard from me or anybody else today, because thinking for yourself is the only way to truly set yourself free. Take care of yourself. I'm out. Peace.