Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the sheep Get Sheared podcast. I'm your host, Austin Creed, and today we're going to discuss a topic that we've discussed before on this show. And that is the Christian Church. And it's really easy to when I talk about the church, you picture a building. But if you go to church a building and you meet the people who are there, they'll tell you that the church is not the building, it's the people in the community. Community and I can't help but notice that a lot of people in the community and make no mistake about it. I grew up with these. I grew up in this environment and so I didn't just go to one church one time and then have this opinion. I grew up in the church and I have respect for Christianity, for Islam. And for Judaism, the problem is with Christianity, mainly the Protestant branch of Christianity. Some of the Catholic, especially with the Pope in recent years. But it's these, in my opinion. These I call them panda bears. They're pandering to people. And they know it. And you could see it in there. You could see it in their faces. You can see it in their rhetoric. They know what's happening. They know what they should say. But they don't say it because they're scared of controversy. They don't want to come across as being toxically masculine. Thank you, Gillette, for putting that out. Five years ago, we don't appreciate it. But we have men who talked about masculinity, but then when they bring up the Bible, all of a sudden is that people start to shuffle. They start to say ohh. But. But I believe in marriage. Ohh I think. I think that this, that and the other thing I don't you know they give out all these disclaimers and they start doing the. The good old, you know, monkey doing an Irish jig type of thing and frankly it. Makes me sick. I came across this clip and I'm not the first person to do this. I actually watched one of my favorite content creators go through. This clip, gave a little bit of an interesting perspective. But there's a hidden factor in this video that I really want to address because I think that very pertinent to the modern day Christian Church as a whole and. That is. The daily wires video on masculinity. We're going to go over this and. Barely used the daily wire. I actually respect some of the guys on this panel. I don't agree with them. Obviously in a lot of ways, but when it comes to politics, we kind of agree when it comes to religion. Not so much. 

Hell no. 

So we're going to go through this and we're going to dissect this and I'm going to come out this from the perspective of a man who grew up in the church, who sees what happens to men who grow up in this environment, some of whom are still my dear friends. But we're going to explore this and why I believe there to be flaws in this philosophy. Let's get going, shall we? 

It's interesting how the meaning of red pill has evolved over the last. Five years to to essentially now mean. Anti I would say anti woman, they would say pro man, but I think it's. Far beyond pro man, I think is decidedly anti woman in many ways, and you see people who. I think some of them are are bad actors who are peddling within you also see people like like, pearly, things who I don't know. Pearl. I don't know if she's a bad actor or not. I kind of get the sense that maybe she's just a naive person being kind of dragged along out of half desire to be famous and half probably hasn't. Read a book. 

Look, I'm gonna pause right there, but I think his name is Jeremy. I'm not sure, but I. Pause it right there. First of all, do you notice how this is framed within the first minute of this video? It's Phil. It's immediately framed as men hate women. Pearl doesn't know what she's talking. I have not watched a lot of her content. I know who she is. I don't want to sound like I'm just trying to front. I actually don't watch a lot of her. Content. I don't watch a lot of content in general because I'm busy producing it, so I don't watch a lot of it. But when I see arguments like this where Pearl got really popular really fast, from what I know mainly. Jacking talking points from guys who've been in the space for a very long time, but more than anything else. You notice how he immediately dismisses accountability. Ohh, she's a woman. She might doesn't know what she's doing. She's naive. She's probably uneducated or naive. Sir, she's a fully grown woman. Last time I checked, women were people and people had brains and they knew how to use them and they make conscious choices about what to do and what not to do and what to say and what not to say. So to just dismiss that as if she's a moron or she doesn't know she's talking about is really insulting. Quite frankly, to Pearl and us as me caping for Pearl, that's just you want talk about being anti woman. You assume that cause she's a woman. Just know what she's talking about, which is kind of insulting. At least I would think it is. But again, so this is this whole space is anti woman no, I'm pro accountability. How's that? How is that? Does that work for you? Let's keep going. 

And half of that I can. Relate to the other half, you could also relate. I do think it's. 

Whoa, hold on a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Look at all these goofy ***. Hey, Andrew Tate, Paul. He wants his stick back. What the hell is this? We're smoking cigars, drinking Scotch and bourbon. Did these guys watch an Andrew paint video and say, oh, we're gonna go copy, let's go copy. Andrew paint. Ohh. My gosh, what is this? This is terrible. Out the gate we have. Alcohol in the background. We have them smoking cigars. No black men present who are really The Pioneers of this space. We have a a black woman, but no black men on this panel. They they couldn't have gotten. Anybody from this red pill space to go on their show? Of course they couldn't because it actually be dealt with reality and not be in their ****** **** bubble. But of course we're not here to have an actual discussion. We're here to talk about things in a completely round table of. Agreement. Unbelievable to me. Popping agitates so shamelessly as disgusting. Well, let's keep going. 

This interesting question that that is harder to talk about in one-on-one settings it might be befit this. Format just to talk about. What is the role of men and women? What is the role of marriage in a society that has essentially turned its back on the concept of marriage that is legally encoded? Anti anti man policies or legal code? Abolish the definition. 

And then abolish. The definition of marriage, I mean, you know. 

Not it's not anti man they they abolish. Difference. They've lost the difference. 

Right. 

Well, I want to pause. Let's go back. I want to hear what your I want. I think his name is Jeremy. Let's go back. I want to hear what his question was again. Look, look. Look. How uncomfortable Candace Owens looks. Man ha ha ha. Yo, look how uncomfortable she looks right now. She's like, oh, man, he's this isn't going to end well. What is? What was her? Covers questions again, format. 

Just to talk about. What is the role of men and women? What is the role of marriage in a society that has essentially turned its back on the concept of marriage that is legally encoded? Anti anti man policies? 

Well, and then OK, pause it. OK. So his question was, what are the roles of men and women in marriage in society? Well, marriage is used to. Cruel create societies create. Communities. It's traditionally, and this will actually no, not to lie in America. It's been one man, one woman, unless you're Mormon in the in like the 18th century in 18th and 19th century. You see, here's the problem right out the gate marriage. How we understand in the West today is a very new phenomenon. I know you went to church and you read that. Ohh. In Genesis, man, God created one man and one woman and that was the first marriage. And I was the model for everything. Well, first of all, that's a big leap in my opinion, because of course it would. They had monogamy. They were the only two humans on the planet. How are you supposed to have any other model than that one? It's just you're the only game in town, so there's that. But also in the Bible, in the Old Testament in particular. There are multiple examples of. The patriarch, Abraham Jacob. Got gentle men who had power and wealth. And status having multiple women? No, I'm not saying that you need to have those things. I'm saying that they did. So when we go into today's society, marriage is supposed to stabilize society and to basically provide a man with outlets and the ability to raise children and have consistent sex. That's what marriage is really supposed to do. And to prepare the next generation. The role of men and women in society. Considering that women are the only ones who can incubate children, they've kind of been assigned that role, whether they like it or not. So it's too bad. Take it up with God. The one thing that men physically cannot do. So that's why the gender roles have evolved the way they have. Men are physically stronger than women, so we do most of the labor. Women are the only ones who have children. And so therefore that's kind of been their role. That's kind of how those roles evolved. And obviously there are societies that that is a little bit different, but that's largely where that came from. Let's see what they say. Let's see how many words I use compared to how many they. Use. Let's keep. 

Going the Polish, the definition of marriage, I mean. 

Under our legal code, abolish the definition. 

You know, so it's not. 

Anything, man, they've they've abolish. Difference. They've lost the difference between. 

The distinction itself. 

You know, I I just went on the whatever podcast. Yeah, for my. I think it's now my like 28th hour on that show. 

You that was six hours. 

After a three hour debate on the show, so I I did a separate thing. Yeah, I did 9 hours. Basically great. Yeah, and I. Who's who's? 

That was. 9 hours. What? What? 

Nice self plug, by the way. Nice shameless self plug. Why? 

It was great. It was great. I really love that. Show I love it because it. Got almost every question I went when, when, when I when I did it. 

The first you couldn't pay me. 

You pay me $1,000,000? No, I love it. Cause the girl these poor girls, man, the whole thing with that show. Which is why it's so. 

You just say those poor girls. They are choosing to be there. They want to be there, it gets their Instagram following up, gets their TikTok following up. It gets their only fan subscriptions rolling. They go on there for social media hype and to make money. What do you mean poor girls? Again, this is part of a problem with the Christian Church and why I hate it so much and not the church, but I hate the culture that it creates, and I wonder if Ben Shapiro will talk about this cause considering he's the only Jew on the panel and Judy and the the Orthodox Judaism, the Orthodox Jews do a lot better job at. And I've seen them do it. It's fantastic. To me, it's better. There's no perfect solution to anything but the Orthodox Jews do this better than the Christians do. But the Christians have this mindset of women are like fragile creatures who don't know what the hell they're doing, when in fact they they are really good at exploiting you. Clearly, so they can't be that stupid again. We start this whole talk with the red pill. The popular man in the. Space, which would include probably include me. We don't like women. Meanwhile, they're the ones insulting women's intelligence, and they're the ones saying that women don't know what they're doing. Wow. Really great start so far. 

Funny is the you get. 

Hold on. I'll pay you $10,000. 

You're really gonna do it? 

11 no. The thing with that show that makes it very funny is that guys go on and they make fun of these girls who have only fans who are like 18 and don't know anything. And then the guys completely destroy them. And then the girls look like dummies. And then the clip goes viral. 

What I just say. Yeah. And then everybody makes money. Schmuck, what are you talking about? The women want to be there. They volunteer to be there. They know what they're signing up for. And they know that there are gonna be a ton of Sims who are gonna flood their only fans. Duh. 

I felt it would be wrong to do that, I felt. 

He just say I felt. No man should start the sentence with. I feel that is immediately taking a non masculine. Approach never start a sentence with I feel or I felt as a man. Never start a sentence that way. I want I I would encourage you. Start with I think I believe I was. I believe I think I feel not. I feel never start with. I feel you see how easy it is to still flip that never start with. I feel I believe. I think it's possible. Logic would dictate use anything other than that. Never start with that term. 

I might get a lot of views, but I might also burn in hell for eternity and I thought about it for a moment. OK, I won't do it. And so I. Went on and let's have a rule. Never. 

Give the audience. 

What they want and never like I was. I went on a great discourse about the Treaty of Augsburg, so I go on there and I just felt it's not these girls fault. 

Michael knows store. 

Oh my God. 

Ohh it's not their fault. You see how they treat women like children, but yet we're the ones who are supposedly anti women. You you ever noticed that? I think that women are largely more crafty and extremely smart. They're smart and crafty. Are they lazy? Most of them, yes. Are they stupid? No, they are not stupid. But yeah, you have guys like, what is this guy's name? Michael Knowles, I think. Is his name. I think, as they said on the screen. Yeah, this guy saying that. Ohh. More women. Ohh, they're being exploited. Ohh my goodness. They're so naive. They chose to be there, they chose to go to the show. They chose to be embarrassed, knowing that they're gonna all make money. They know what they're doing. They chose to be there, but yet you're letting them skirt accountability. Why? Because they're women. I'm sorry, who's anti woman here? Who is employing them? Because they have a vagina that they're not intelligent, not me. 

All of them have some weird family situation. None of that. We live in a culture that teaches them a ton of lies. They don't, they don't. They they have no education, even if they want. 

Again, women are victims. Again, this is the same approach that all these types take who are on the radcon area of the Internet. They assume that all the women are victims. Meanwhile, they're the ones who are running the show and who have everybody on their side. The courts of law and the courts of public opinion. And yet here you are, peeping for them. Here you are making excuses for them and telling me that I. Need to step up. This is this. This is this. Is absolutely a disgrace. 

It's getting weird. 

How much more can I take of this? It's only been a minute, 2 minutes and a half. 

Went to good schools. They have no education, they don't. So I I felt OK, let's just talk about what's really going on here. And there are victims of feminism and the web bill, guys. 

Victim. Victim. Victim. How many time can he say the word victim in a single paragraph? Ohh my gosh, brother. 

Oh my God. 

As are. Feminism and the irony about the red pill guys, I sympathize with them a lot. A lot of ways the family courts are totally stacked against dudes. The culture promotes divorce and abolish the definition of marriage and. 

Blah blah, but the the. 

Red pill guys are feminists. Their their sense of men and women is basically this. It's just that men and women are interchangeable, yes. 

That's right. 

What are you talking about? Who are you listening to? What is this? Who is he talking about? Who is he talking about? I have never heard anybody say that. I don't know what you're talking about, Sir. 

And go around screw around. You owe nothing to women. If it's good for women, it's good for men. And that's just a lie. You know the the fundamental unit of society is actually not the individual, right? I love individual rights. It's good to be an individual. The the fundamental unit of society is the family. It's men and women together who have a love that becomes so real that you make more people. 

Well, to have to have. 

Hold, hold, hold on a second. Hold on a second. So in other words. When feminism was about freedom, equal rights and whatnot, which? To a certain extent, he's actually right. Am I? Would I say that I'm a feminist? No. Would I say that feminism has done good for men? Ohh, hell yeah, it has. It freed me. Now I don't have to be married back in the day, marriage was expected from me because that was part of my social obligation. Now I can do whatever I want. But now you see the people who are born servants who want to serve women, by the way, for those of you who don't know what a simp is, it stands for somebody who idolizes mediocre *****. Pardon my French. But that's exactly what he's doing right now. He's giving women no accountability, letting them dirt by because they're not men. Telling us men that we're the problem. Meanwhile, he outlined all the reasons against marriage, but yet then says we should still do it anyway, without mentioning a single reason why we benefit without using a single single pillar of logic as to why I should. Throw the dice and hope for a Yahtzee. Why in the world would I do that? We haven't heard that part yet. We've just heard that. Ohh. Because they're women. They're naive because of feminism. They're a victim and because of the way society is set up, you should just take the fall and and start a family. While acknowledging the fact that the divorce rate is out of control and the ones who are filing it are not men. Is unbelievable. How are we only 3 1/2 minutes into this almost 15 minute clip and we've had nothing full of evidence used at all. By the way, Asher. Cigar, Sir, what is going on here? 

Have an atom. You have to have a proton and an electron, right? So it's like a man is a proton like very important, but essentially nothing until it's unified with. 

To have Adam, you need. 

To have you're saying that a man is nothing without a woman is that. Is that what you just said? 

Oh my God. 

How does a man watch this? Why does any single man watch this and? Take it seriously. This would be good. This would be really good comedy if it wasn't so tragic, but this is not good advice. This is the worst advice you can give to a young, impressionable man. The worst advice ever. Oh, a nice job aping and your tape, by the way. Cigars and Scotch and whatnot. A good job. How long did it take you to? Figure that one out. 

Having Eve, that's where I thought he was going. And then I was gonna, I thought was gonna go for the Steve thing. 

That's where I thought he was going to. 

Yeah, yeah. 

And that's. 

Why I died? It's Steve. 

I've always. 

That wouldn't. 

Two protons and atom does not make, I dare say. 

I've always with the red. Pill and I've been in many altercations with. The red I've run afoul with the red pill crowd many times talking about these issues. And the question. I've always had for them that they've never answered and I'd love to hear. An answer from. Any of them is that hear it? No cause I agree with 95% of their criticisms. 

Well, then, what is it already? Ask me the question. 

As you point out, the family courts and it's how it's stacked against men and so on and so forth. What's the other option like? 

Oh, what's the other option? Oh, I'm so glad you asked. I have a book, Biblical bachelor. I have the answer. It's right here. It's right here. Here's the answer, Sir. Biblical bachelor. I really. Book about how you could be the most Christian man possible while being single Paul wrote about it in the Bible. For God's sakes, there's a solution right there. There's your answer. You're welcome. You call the press. I have an answer. I have a solution. I wrote a book about it. 

OK, we agree with all that. So then men should just. Be alone and and give up on their on their bloodline and die and their bloodline is. 

I have a no. Stop, stop, stop. Let me look. Hold on. Hold on. Let me hold on. Let me change my glasses to that of the librarian you had in in, in on elementary school. Let's look. Let's see. What chapter was it again? Give me one second. Ohh there it is right there. Biology and babies chapter eight of the Biblical bachelor. I talk about surrogacy in depth, about how men, if they want to have a family, they're financially successful, they can still pass on their bloodline, as Mr. Matt Walsh just pointed out. So there you go. There you go. Matt, I have a solution to both of those questions that you said were not answerable. You're welcome. Give me a call. I just exposed you that you are a liar. Let's keep going. 

English like what you are suggesting is despair. You you are telling men. 

Oh, no. My philosophy works great. My philosophy works fantastic. I've never been happier in my life. 

And they're already feeling despair. They're feeling meaninglessness. They're feeling lost. They're feeling alone. They're feeling like everything stacked against them. And so your answer to them is, yeah, well, just that that's be in despair and then die and. 

No, my my answer is biblical bachelor. It's right there. My other answer is to develop your own personal philosophy that works for you. So that you don't have to fall on a sword if you don't want to. You want to go right ahead. You want to roll the dice and hope for a Yahtzee go right ahead, but there are other options out here. I wrote a whole book on my lifestyle, but I'm currently living. And you're more than welcome to pick it up. I'll leave it in the description, but again, this isn't just about me. There are other options out there in this space. It's not just me. There are other options out there. So when he says that there's no one out there with an answer, he's not looking very hard or he's lying. 

But my my point is that that that's just, that's just not an OK answer. That can't be the answer. 

And and have lots and lots. 

Of sex? Well, but that's that's the that's what you saw. 

They're all sex. They're although not as much as a married man. 

Actually, actually that's false. Most married men, not most a lot of married men are actually in sexless marriages. #1 and #2. The distance between the single men having sex and the married man is the gap is closing. Just look at the statistical data. But you don't really seem to care about statistical data considering that you've. And Irish jig dancing around it this whole time. 

But this is but this is what you were saying, is that that's how it turns to the anti woman because it's not about the despair, the way that you find meaning is then by disparaging the people who have victimized you. Right in, in any victim Victimizer sort of narrative when when there is no actual victim and victimizer and it has to be sort of put together artificially, then the the person who self perceives the victim is very likely to then strike out at the person who they perceive as the victimizer. And so for a lot of the red pill men who perceive the woman, the great woman, as the victimizer. The idea is that you lash out at women by having lots of sex with random girls and basically treating them like trash. 

See, Ben has actually. I wanna thank Ben Shapiro for actually having a somewhat logical approach here. He's correct without being the human psychology. The problem is. That is just a small element of the red pill space. The other part of the space such as myself and other guys like me, is we don't do that. No, no, I preach aftercare. I preach. Hey, don't treat people like trash. Treat them with respect. Don't treat people like garbage. Why would you do that? That opens the door for a false allegation that opens the door for possible problems down the road. Plus, what goes around comes around. You treat people like trash. They'll treat you like trash. So I don't preach that. I really don't, plus a lot of times just having. I'm not going to tell you not to go out there and sew your royal out. If you want to do that, you're more than welcome to do it. I do it on on occasion myself. I'm not perfect. You need to be careful what you do. Just trust me. There are some very hungry hungry hippos out here that are more than happy to eat up your marbles and then take you to child support. So be careful with. Well, let's keep going. 

And it's OK because they said that it's OK with them, but doesn't. I've never understood the argument that it relieves you of responsibility for treating a woman. Well, just because the woman has consented to be treated badly. 

But, but this is he's right about the despair. This is permeating the right, the permeates the politics of the right. It's the idea is basically, it's all over. They think of people basically been like you and me as sitting on an ice flow. Kind of floating out with as the ice, you know, melts away because we're sitting around thinking about civil debate and, you know, constitutional governance, and they think that's all over now and. And they're all. Their despair is permeates the. And I listen. I listen to a lot of these young guys and they're talking about bringing back monarchy. They're talking about, you know, they're. Yeah, they're. 

What are we talking about? We went from talking about men to. Now we're talking about monarchy and politics. This has nothing to do with what we're talking about. What is going on here? We're getting far off track. OK. Ladies and gentlemen. All the sheep get sheared. Podcast my question to you is this. What have you heard this before? You agree with and what have you heard thus far that you don't agree with? That's my main question to you right now because I have solutions. I mentioned my solution multiple times. Biblical bachelor. I have it right here. I have it. You can listen. You can go watch it. I mean, you can go pick it up. I haven't have it on. On audible. You can listen to it. It's an audio book too. If you want to listen to it. My friends, there are solutions out here. And I encourage you, if you want to be a trailblazer, you can make your own trail. See, that's the part they don't tell you is they say that there are some people who are in despair, which is true. There are some people who are in despair. There are also some of us, like myself, who are pioneering our own way to making it work. Where there's a will, there's a way, the. Necessity is the mother of invention when there is necessity to adapt to the ever changing culture that guile centric society. We are now faced with you. You can adopt, you can make a new route to make it work for you, to create your own life. That is what the essence of freedom is. Too many people want the freedom to be comfortable, not the freedom to carve out their own niche, to carve out their own life out of the shapeless marble that is the opportunity of life itself. So many people just want the easy path, the path most trodden. They don't want to carve out their own path. They don't want to. Pull the weed. They don't want to do things that are hard and part of this that's hard is accepting the reality of the world we live in. If you want to still be traditional, then go to the more traditional country, go get a passport, be a passport bro. If that's what you want to do. If you want to be a biblical bachelor, you can do that if you want. To be a free agent, shout out the CGA. You can go and do that if. You wanna go? Take the entertain lifestyle. You could do that too. You can do whatever you want. The problem is most people don't have the wherewithal or the cojones to actually go out there. They don't have the hooks, blah to go out there and carve their own path. They want other people to make it easier for them to take the path. Of least resistance and I don't think. That that's smart. Let's see how much more as I can take before before I gotta sign off here. And because I'm already getting a headache from listening to this. 

I know you. What? I didn't say anything. I. 

Didn't say anything. 

Yeah, yeah. You know, but that monarchy, it's not that great. You know, it actually isn't you, you know, if you think if you think our elections are bad when you see. The beheadings? You. Know because that's how most of the kings. 

Yeah, I know, I mean. 

That's fine. I'm not saying I'm. 

We'll say that argument for another day. 

Not saying we need an imam or. 

A shake. You know, honestly, this whole conversation would be putting me to sleep, but I can't go to sleep right here. I need. My Helix sleep mattress. Whoa. So good. Whoa. So. Talking about my. 

Ohh hell no. No, no, no, we ain't getting no press on my show. Ohh hell no no. See, they're not even giving good advice. Their advice is terrible and disingenuous. And on top of it all, they're just get off my show. I'm done with this man. How do people take this serious? Let's look at the comment section here. Let's look at the comments. They're mentioning Steven Crowder. He's a good person to reference in this space, who's come to realize what I've already realized as a younger man. Eliminate no fault. Divorce. I hear that I'm the conversation. Mig Tau, yes, yes, that is a solution as well. Yes, I I agree with this guy. These guys are hoped so hopelessly out of their depth on this topic and don't know it facts. So here's the problem. They're not coming out this as someone who's willing to learn something they already convinced they know everything. I don't know. Everything. I'm forging my own path. I can have something jump out at me at any time, and I might have to reevaluate how I'm going. But I'm always gonna keep moving forward. Problem is, they don't want to move forward, they want everybody else to move backwards. They want feminism to go away. They want no fault divorce to go away. Hopefully it does. The problem is, I don't think it will. Why? Because the largest demographic of voters right now is women, and women have no reason to get rid of no fault divorce. So until the time comes when it benefits them to get rid of it. That's not gonna happen. So that's why you have to adapt. You have to be willing to not be weak like the Christian Church is pushing you to be like these Christian commentators. And except for Ben Shapiro, are talking about these religious commentators are telling you to basically just fall on the sword because they've done it. They think you should do it. But no, no. Anyone who's gone through a divorce will tell you it sucks. And the odds of you getting a divorce? I've never been higher. The women have more of an incentive to get rid, to get rid of you as a man because you're replaceable. So why would you enter in an arrangement where you? Know you are replaceable. Why not take care of yourself and value yourself and treat yourself like you're not replaceable? What about? What about that? How about we do that instead? I think that's a good idea. What? What say you? Whatever you decide to take on this topic. I encourage you to question everything you heard today to stay informed and not just drink anyone's kool-aid. Please don't be weak even if you go to church. Don't just take this approach because they're not thinking for yourself as weak. That is the easy thing to do, but to think for yourself and make your own decisions that takes strength, that takes Huzzah. Huzzah is Yiddish for audacity. It takes audacity. It takes courage to do something hard. My friends. Please don't just take the easy route. Because you think other people will think of you better of you. That's weak. I'm out. Take care of yourselves. Peace.