Welcome back, campers. That was Kaitlyn. And that was Genevieve. Yes it was. Thank you. But she wishes she was far, far away in a castle, ideally with Jamie. Oh. Sorry. I'm sorry. Outlander. I'm almost to season three. Oh, man. Before I get too sidetracked, a girl can dream. But for now, you, dear camper, and Kaitlyn and I have arrived at episode 92 of Camping is Canceled. You may also be wondering, why doesn't this episode's title have BTK in it? So sorry. The simple answer is I have three children, and school is out, so I needed a little more time with the script. But of course we were not going to neglect you guys for the week, so we're tiding you over with a nice juicy episode on, I guess, Kaitlyn, 00;00;57;21 - 00;01;04;15 Genevieve I would label it as a paranormal subject with like a little dash of science and philosophy mixed in. 00;01;04;21 - 00;01;07;22 Kaitlyn I would agree that true crime, there's no murder. 00;01;07;28 - 00;01;08;17 Genevieve No. 00;01;08;18 - 00;01;11;22 Kaitlyn Well, you know. Yeah. Go on. 00;01;11;23 - 00;01;56;08 Genevieve Anyways, getting ahead of ourselves. But either way, this is a topic that has completely freaked Kaitlyn and I out, and that is past lives. If you have kids or no kids or were ever a kid yourself, and hopefully you fit at least one of those categories, you may even be a kid. Now you know who you are. You will know that they can say and do some pretty bizarre things and oh my gosh,Kaitlyn, this is the perfect moment for us to bring up again the really freaky thing that Zuzu, my three year old, did just the other week when with no context whatsoever, no one had said anything. 00;01;56;08 - 00;02;17;02 Genevieve You hadn't even texted me yet. She, out of the clear blue sky, just looks up from her playing and looks at me and goes, “Mom, Charlie's at the hospital” and I was like, “oh no, baby, Charlie's fine. Like she's she's not at the hospital.” She goes, “Mom, Charlie's at the hospital and she has a new bed.” Oh, God. 00;02;17;06 - 00;02;33;25 Genevieve And I was like, oh. And I got that, like prickly, like heebeejeebee feeling. And I was like, I need to text Kaitlyn. But I was like, no, Gen that's just your anxiety. Simmer down. Or not. Even ten minutes later, I get a text from you that said, we're at the E.R.. Yep. 00;02;33;28 - 00;02;45;28 Kaitlyn And Charlie was like, we're at the children's. Yeah, we're at children's E.R. Charlie, she's not feeling good, blah, blah blah. Yeah. And you're like, Zuzu just told me. I was like, I felt disgusting. 00;02;46;01 - 00;02;49;13 Genevieve Pit in my stomach. That was so freaky. 00;02;49;13 - 00;02;52;29 Kaitlyn But Gen, she is clairvoyant like you. 00;02;53;01 - 00;03;09;08 Genevieve But you know what? I. After you told me this and just to clarify, Charlie was okay. It was, you know, everything's fine, but I went to Zuzu because I did some reading on. If you think your kid is clairvoyant or if you think I don't know, just tell me. 00;03;09;08 - 00;03;12;06 Kaitlyn Five. No, this. 00;03;12;09 - 00;03;43;28 Genevieve But basically all the things I was reading said, if you even have that sense with your children, don't quash it. Don't go out of your way to try to manipulate them into doing it. But when it happens organically, affirm them in it and ask them follow up questions or just accept it. And then if they say something that you find out is true, then you go to them and say, hey, remember you told mommy, blah blah blah. 00;03;44;00 - 00;04;02;23 Genevieve Well, and I did this with Zuzu. I said, you told mommy that Charlie was at the hospital andKaitlyn just texted me. They are there because Charlie's not feeling good, but she's going to be okay and she's getting medicine and she's going to come home. That was how I explained it to her, and she was just like, okay, I. 00;04;02;26 - 00;04;03;19 Kaitlyn Told you, bitch. 00;04;03;20 - 00;04;10;14 Genevieve Yeah. And you know that was it. She didn't need to ask, but it was just that affirming her and not dismissing it. 00;04;10;14 - 00;04;12;03 Kaitlyn So that makes sense. 00;04;12;03 - 00;04;19;04 Genevieve Yeah. So on her level, if she ever has that again, that she will know that maybe she'll just say it. 00;04;19;04 - 00;04;35;08 Kaitlyn I also like that makes sense. And validating your children's like instincts or gut feelings, even. Yeah. Like who? Something's not like those things are. Yeah. Whether you believe in, like, paranormal stuff. Gut instincts. Yes. Correct. 00;04;35;08 - 00;04;52;11 Genevieve Because what? Don't we talk on here all the time about? Listen to your gut and don't dismiss those feelings. So in a small way, even if it was a total coincidence, you're just affirming that gut instinct so that they learn to rely on it as they're developing. 00;04;52;11 - 00;04;57;25 Kaitlyn But I've never taken cam to the hospital. That's the first time I ever took Charlie to the E.R.. 00;04;57;25 - 00;04;59;07 Genevieve So that's very. 00;04;59;07 - 00;05;00;09 Kaitlyn True to something. 00;05;00;10 - 00;05;22;24 Genevieve Yep. And she's never been aware. The times that we've had to take the other two to the E.R.. So she wouldn't have had any contact of that to kind of just be, like, reiterating a memory she had. So I don't know. And that was freaky. But that little incident isn't even close to the level of freaky that we have for you guys today. 00;05;22;24 - 00;05;49;22 Genevieve I'm really excited about this. So give us this next little chunk of your time. We promise you will not regret it, and that will tide you over until the final part of BTK. And we also promise you'll never look at the bizarre things kids say quite the same again. Lights out campers! Oh man, the mountains call my number one. 00;05;49;25 - 00;05;58;07 Unknown I'm just a bite size lottery ticket in the hand of one. 00;05;58;09 - 00;06;13;14 Kaitlyn All righty then. So I'm guessing after that storyGen told you guys, you can probably think of a time yourself when one of your own kids said or did something that gave you the creeps or some other kid in your life. I mean, you don't have to have a child. 00;06;13;15 - 00;06;22;23 Genevieve Or that your mom or dad always likes to be like, you did this when you were a kid, and you're like, no, I didn't like yes, you did, but you just don't remember it. 00;06;22;25 - 00;06;54;16 Kaitlyn So it's the opposite for me. I'm always telling my parents stories and I'm like, you didn't do that. I'm like, well, I remember it. Yeah, I don't remember anything. So anyhow. But what do you do if just randomly one day you and your husband or your wife are watching a documentary on World War two and during a long scene of black and white footage from a real battle, your four year old, who was supposed to be in bed but has been watching from the top of the stairs. 00;06;54;19 - 00;07;08;05 Kaitlyn That's creepy to me. Old buddy suddenly starts freaking out. He points at the TV and says he remembers that battle on that exact day, because it was the day he died. 00;07;08;10 - 00;07;09;05 Genevieve Well. 00;07;09;07 - 00;07;36;12 Kaitlyn But wait, there's more. He points to the tank he died in and gives you the names of his friends who were in the tank with him. If that's not freaky enough, he then insists that the tanks around him are going to blow up with his being the last. He then points to the ones that are going to be destroyed and says it would be that one first, followed by a second, then a third, which he points to it in a specific order. 00;07;36;14 - 00;07;50;03 Kaitlyn Several seconds later it plays out on screen exactly as he said it would, and then he just says, good night, and scurries back upstairs to his room and never brings it up again. 00;07;50;05 - 00;07;51;04 Genevieve Priest on speed. 00;07;51;04 - 00;08;09;23 Kaitlyn Dial. We didn't make this up because this was allegedly a real scenario that someone on Reddit shared in a thread called Parents of Reddit. What has your child done to make you think they lived a past life? And don't worry, we'll be spending some time on that thread specifically today. 00;08;09;24 - 00;08;11;05 Genevieve Oh yes. 00;08;11;07 - 00;08;33;21 Kaitlyn This commentator's parents insisted this happened one night when he was a little kid and they knew for a fact that he'd never seen this documentary before, or knew anything about World War Two or tanks. So naturally, when he said this, they nearly shit themselves. I'd say would have played the like, don't acknowledge it. 00;08;33;24 - 00;08;34;22 Genevieve Like enough might. 00;08;34;22 - 00;08;52;14 Kaitlyn Not be recently. He himself has no memory of it to this day. So you know what? Let's just go over to that thread now because there's almost good lower 6000 comments. So you know, it's going to be. 00;08;52;16 - 00;09;15;21 Genevieve Oh yeah, don't worry we won't go through all 6000. But oh hey, there's some good ones in here. So this is a thread. Like I said before, that was made eight years ago by poop corn kernels. And thank you, poop corn. And it's titled Parents of Reddit. What has your child done to make you think they lived a past life? 00;09;15;21 - 00;09;42;08 Genevieve So this post has now been archived, and after eight years it has almost 6000 comments and I spent quite a lot of time digging into these. Some of them are whole area, some of them are genuinely freaky, but I really liked what this one person mentioned where they said. It's bizarre how all of them seem to be with kids who are right around the same age. 00;09;42;08 - 00;10;10;29 Genevieve So it's like that age of like 3 to 7 where they're able to start actually vocalizing things, but they're still incredibly young, innocent, impressionable, and will just say off the wall stuff. But it's bizarre that they're all kind of in that same age range. And then those memories are those tendencies fade away as they get older. Kind of like, I don't know. 00;10;10;29 - 00;10;21;29 Genevieve We'll talk more about it as we get into it, but it is just kind of crazy. It's like that past life fades away. I mean, and they don't remember even bringing it up. 00;10;21;29 - 00;10;41;07 Kaitlyn I don't know if you've ever seen. It's a very specific video. I'm sure there's multiple, but it was like the sounds of birds chirping like a trampoline, like grass. It was like, this is what your childhood looked like. And then it like, shifted. Oh, and it like you didn't hear the birds and like, it was like the filter came off and it's like, oh. 00;10;41;13 - 00;11;06;05 Kaitlyn And it's like, do you remember when your filter went off and like, you grew up and it's like, Holy shit. Like I do remember, like as a kid, it was like you were in a different like your mind obviously wasn't fully developed. That's it. But like, you really were just, more impressionable to. Yes, other things. Not like reality and harshness and. 00;11;06;05 - 00;11;06;21 Kaitlyn Yeah. 00;11;06;23 - 00;11;41;28 Genevieve And you're seeing the world through a lens that is either a different lens and it's multilayered depending where you live, who your parents are, your situation, economic likely, your race, your gender, all of those things. And then what I would say is the biggest thing is whether or not you're viewing your world through that lens of safety and kids that feel safe, I think that their imagination is able to run much more free, and they're able to be more and, well, it's kind of a double edged sword. 00;11;42;04 - 00;11;58;20 Genevieve Either they feel very safe and so they're very open or because of not feeling safe and they're in fight or flight, and they have that heightened sense of trauma, that heightened awareness that they can be more sensitive to things because they're more empathetic. 00;11;58;27 - 00;12;12;07 Kaitlyn But yeah, even with time, like you don't have as many memories, so therefore you're not having to think back. Your brain's not clustered, your brain's not having to fill in spots to make up something like we do now. Yeah, I don't know. 00;12;12;09 - 00;12;13;22 Genevieve That's a really good point. 00;12;13;24 - 00;12;18;26 Kaitlyn I do know children. Little kids can see things that other people can't see. I do perceive. 00;12;18;26 - 00;12;53;22 Genevieve That they're like dogs, and they stare into the corner when there's nothing there to us. And here's a really good one. So this was posted eight years ago by Captain Law and Traps whistle and they said, my three year old said, quote, I was your mom in heaven. Quote multiple times when I was six weeks pregnant with her, my mom died unexpectedly the day she found out the secret that I was pregnant at 40 with what would be her last and 21st grandchild. 00;12;53;25 - 00;13;20;25 Genevieve We were going to surprise her on her 75th birthday two weeks later, but a niece let the secret out. When my girl was four, we were looking through picture boxes. I have no family pictures posted in my house. Later that night, I realized my daughter took three pictures of my mom and put them in her room. She'd never seen pictures of my mom before this day. 00;13;20;28 - 00;13;49;24 Genevieve I asked her why she took those pictures and she said, quote, because I'm pretty, and that some of that will be coveted because I'm pretty. Oh. Your mom kept her self-esteem, which she died. Oh, somebody else said this sounds like something Linda from Bob's Burgers would say. But, that's funny, that's funny. But also. Ooh, that's a good hey, big bear. 00;13;50;01 - 00;13;51;02 Genevieve Ooh. 00;13;51;03 - 00;14;02;19 Kaitlyn Because even if that's not like a child. Like if it was your mom. Like, what if it's a demon? It's still creepy. Oh, I don't like it. It's the. Your child is still like, I don't know, they're. 00;14;02;19 - 00;14;05;09 Genevieve Interconnected with something. 00;14;05;11 - 00;14;07;29 Kaitlyn They're Bluetooth connected to the wrong device. 00;14;08;02 - 00;14;14;19 Genevieve They're there. Alexa is not Alexa in for a wash. Oh my God. 00;14;14;22 - 00;14;41;09 Kaitlyn This one is from their user. It's deleted. So it goes on. I've only ever shared with a few people how my late mother regularly hid a packet of biscuits, usually chocolate digestives from my brothers and I, so when we had visitors there was always some biscuits to go with a cup of tea. How it's done in Britain I once caught my daughter stuffing a packet of biscuits in the back of a cupboard, behind a big bag of pasta. 00;14;41;15 - 00;14;44;24 Kaitlyn At the time I thought Crafty Cow wants them for herself. 00;14;44;28 - 00;14;47;21 Genevieve Crafty. Go, that's I got it, but. 00;14;47;21 - 00;15;10;20 Kaitlyn Left them there to see if they disappear. Maybe for a teaching moment about not being selfish or something. They didn't disappear but reappear appeared when some friends came over. She does waltz out of the kitchen, just as my mom used to do, opening a packet of biscuits. She never knew my mother, and I'm pretty certain nobody else would have encouraged this pretty specific behavior. 00;15;10;20 - 00;15;32;20 Kaitlyn I don't believe she's the reincarnation of my mother, but I'm just intrigued at her selflessness. She doesn't get it from me. Those biscuits wouldn't have gotten past a couple of cups of coffee with me around. She still does it too. We have a biscuit box in the cupboard, usually with a few packs of biscuits, but when I keep a check on how many packs we have, there will always be one short. 00;15;32;20 - 00;15;48;15 Kaitlyn Or I'll come across a random packet in a cupboard somewhere. She likes to be the biscuit bringer. When we have visitors. Now I like that one because it's just like a specific habit that it's like my mom was never around. I never do that. So why is she doing it? 00;15;48;20 - 00;16;33;09 Genevieve Do you know what that makes me think of? This is something that is on the same vein of past lives, but it's slightly different and sciency kind of woowoo sciency, but it's the concept of cellular memory, and it's the idea that we actually contain memory or who you are. Part of who you are is contained in your individual cells, in your very make up, and that it can be given literally transplanted to another person in the event of, let's just say, someone that gets a lung transplant, a heart transplant, and they suddenly adopt personality traits of the person who gave them the transplant. 00;16;33;09 - 00;16;37;07 Genevieve This is not me making this up. This is a well-documented phenomenon. 00;16;37;14 - 00;16;50;25 Kaitlyn Like the cases of twins being separated and they wear the same clothes. Yeah, they are completely different. Like living scenarios have the same haircut, like, yeah, go for the same person. They had the same hobbies. And it's like, what? 00;16;50;27 - 00;17;05;15 Genevieve And the reason why I think of that is because have you ever heard it broken down? How when generations of women that you were at one point inside your grandmother. Yeah. 00;17;05;18 - 00;17;08;14 Kaitlyn Because your mother was there? 00;17;08;14 - 00;17;35;06 Genevieve Yes. And all of her eggs fully developed before she was born. So is there something possibly there where there is even more of your grandmother as a woman in you than anyone else? Or if you're a guy too, because you would still be inside your mother, inside her. So it's just like all makes my mind feel like it's a. 00;17;35;06 - 00;17;51;16 Kaitlyn Big shot gonna send me down a different round hole. Because when you think about souls and like all that in, that's in a lot of the ones these past lives of, like, I'm sure we might read one, but like kids being like, oh, I died. And then I was given to you in your belly. And I came here like. 00;17;51;19 - 00;17;52;03 Genevieve Yeah. 00;17;52;04 - 00;17;53;15 Kaitlyn Or like I picked you. 00;17;53;18 - 00;18;34;07 Genevieve Exactly. There is a story that has kind of become internet folklore at this point. It's a bit of a urban legend, but I see it every now and then across my reels, and I did some research to be like, is this real? Is there actual like weight behind it and like a case file? But there is a really famous story of a psychiatrist who was allegedly at this big conference in it was like the 80s or 90s, and they got up and shared a story about a girl who received a successful heart transplant. 00;18;34;07 - 00;19;10;06 Genevieve She was maybe seven, eight years old. She was fairly young, but obviously the girl who had given her the heart had passed away. She successfully receives the transplant. The surgeons have no idea of the history of the girl who gave it to her, the donor. They just know we have the heart. Let's get to work. But this girl, after receiving the donor heart, began having incredibly vivid nightmares of being murdered repeatedly, and they were so vivid that she was unable to sleep. 00;19;10;06 - 00;19;35;20 Genevieve You know, was having nightmares. And eventually her parents had to take her to, you know, get checked out like psychiatric help about it. Well, come to find out,Kaitlyn, the girl who was the donor was a murder victim. And allegedly, according to the story that this psychiatrist has given in this conference and this story has been like its origin is from a book, and I can't remember the name of the book. 00;19;35;20 - 00;20;00;17 Genevieve We'll link it in the show notes, but she was able to give a description of the man in her dreams, down to the fucking tee. They sought him out. He heard the claims, broke down sobbing, confessed, was convicted, went to prison. He did it. So what the actual hell? 00;20;00;18 - 00;20;03;18 Kaitlyn My only question immediately. Oh, you can have questions. 00;20;03;18 - 00;20;06;29 Genevieve Because again, this is law. At this point. 00;20;07;02 - 00;20;21;24 Kaitlyn My only question. I googled it real quick. Immediately it was like, okay, if she was murdered, how soon was she found in her organs harvested? Because how soon would she have been found, processed and then so okayed for her body, her organs to be donated? I'm not sure. 00;20;21;24 - 00;20;43;23 Genevieve I know that's a totally valid question. All I know is that she was shot. Okay, so it's very possible that it happened, you know, maybe in a drive by situation or like, we just don't know. But that it happened quickly enough that paramedics were called to the scene. They tried to revive her, you know, but it wasn't that situation where she was like sitting. 00;20;43;26 - 00;20;44;17 Kaitlyn Okay. 00;20;44;19 - 00;20;45;16 Genevieve Okay, enough. 00;20;45;19 - 00;20;47;08 Kaitlyn So I was like a media. I was like, 00;20;47;10 - 00;21;04;09 Genevieve Because her organs would not have been able to be harvested if she was in any state. So it had to have been very quickly. But whomever did it immediately got away and I was at large. So that story is used as an example of cellular memory. 00;21;04;09 - 00;21;07;01 Kaitlyn Every time I hear about, like, blood transfusions. 00;21;07;04 - 00;21;09;09 Genevieve Oh, yeah. 00;21;09;11 - 00;21;14;24 Kaitlyn Sorry, too many people come on. And it's not good blood because. I'm sorry. 00;21;14;24 - 00;21;16;05 Genevieve I forgot my memories. 00;21;16;05 - 00;21;17;21 Kaitlyn You probably got tired, too. 00;21;17;24 - 00;21;34;04 Genevieve Yeah, but it makes sense, because in some of these other stories I've read, people talk about receiving lungs, and all of a sudden they get the urge to say, or I'm sorry, not lungs, but receiving our new heart or a kidney. And suddenly they get the urge to smoke. And that person. 00;21;34;04 - 00;21;48;28 Kaitlyn Was a smoker, like kidneys. I know, like if the the donor like was a midnight peer and like all of a sudden they have to get up and go pee because kidney remembered like a kidney always peed at like 1 a.m.. So yeah, bitch, I'm still going at what I am. 00;21;48;28 - 00;21;51;17 Genevieve So that imprint that on a. 00;21;51;17 - 00;21;52;26 Kaitlyn Cellular level. 00;21;52;28 - 00;22;07;02 Genevieve Is in there somewhere. So again, it's not exactly the same as this, but there is a correlation that is there, especially when you're talking about kids who have they're talking about relatives that they never knew. 00;22;07;02 - 00;22;27;20 Kaitlyn But I like that. I like that sign to ask explanation for. I feel like I'm not a nonbeliever. I'm not like, oh my gosh, it is like, but I do believe in possibilities of stuff. I'm open minded to everything and I like. I don't always need scientific proof to believe in something, but I think it's fun when it's there. 00;22;27;20 - 00;22;32;11 Kaitlyn Absolutely. But I also just want to know the things I like knowing everything. 00;22;32;11 - 00;22;57;23 Genevieve Absolutely. This one comment is not, necessarily as deep, but since we just twisted your head around with talking with all that, I think we've heard this one comment, this book which says my kids are all pretty deep thinkers. I was at one of those new mama playgroup things, hating my life, and this woman was talking about the beautiful experience her son recalled to her about being in the womb. 00;22;57;23 - 00;23;14;01 Genevieve I think like warmth, love, light, all those kinds of things. So I turn to my son, who I think is 4 or 5 at the time, and I'm like, do you remember mommy's belly? And he goes, yeah, it had some pretty cool toys, but I got bored. So I opened up your butthole and said, mommy, I want to come out. 00;23;14;01 - 00;23;15;19 Genevieve No. 00;23;15;21 - 00;23;20;26 Kaitlyn If that is not. But like. 00;23;20;29 - 00;23;21;14 Genevieve That is. 00;23;21;14 - 00;23;23;14 Kaitlyn Not your second born. 00;23;23;16 - 00;23;27;16 Genevieve Out of. 00;23;27;18 - 00;23;30;01 Kaitlyn It. Now I want to know if she had tears. 00;23;30;04 - 00;23;35;11 Genevieve Oh, God. Yes. So he somehow was primitive, like, I got. 00;23;35;12 - 00;23;36;05 Kaitlyn That's funny. 00;23;36;05 - 00;23;47;16 Genevieve So I opened up your butthole like. No. Like this seated Ace Ventura when he comes out of the Rhino. Lord have mercy. 00;23;47;19 - 00;24;10;00 Kaitlyn I would be friends with that mom. This one, this one's, comes from deleted. My daughter was 3 or 4. She kept asking me, mommy, do you remember when you were little and I was big? I took good care of you. We went to the store all the time. Then when her little brother was born, she asked me if I could call him Augie. 00;24;10;07 - 00;24;32;01 Kaitlyn I asked her where she heard that name, and she told me that she made it up. My great grandfather passed away August 31st of 2001. She was born September 7th of 2011. My great grandfather used to take me to King Soopers a few times a week, and he had a dog long before I was born named Augie, nickname for August. 00;24;32;08 - 00;24;35;20 Kaitlyn I had a hard time wrapping my brain around it. Oh. 00;24;35;22 - 00;24;38;02 Genevieve Oh, that's sweet. 00;24;38;02 - 00;24;38;23 Kaitlyn Doggy. 00;24;38;23 - 00;24;40;04 Genevieve Oh no name. 00;24;40;11 - 00;24;52;08 Kaitlyn My brother is a dog. I want to name him Augie. I like those, but like that I like those ones that aren't like, oh, I was in that war. I would like those genuinely creep me out. 00;24;52;08 - 00;24;53;29 Genevieve Yeah, that's not a dark one. 00;24;53;29 - 00;25;08;20 Kaitlyn Necessarily interesting, but I like when a kid is like, oh yeah, like this. And it's like, how do you even and maybe you're not subconsciously thinking and like, you have said stuff for like out. Yeah. But it's I don't know, I like that kind of stuff. 00;25;08;21 - 00;25;30;20 Genevieve Like the mystery of it. Here is another really good one that was posted by Perfect Birth. Sorry, I don't know if I said that right, but she says I told this in another place here, but it was in the early afternoon of Halloween this is a rough time of year for me because my first child was still born near this day. 00;25;30;22 - 00;25;50;22 Genevieve I was sitting in a chair in the den. My husband was at the desk on the opposite side of the room. My two and a half year old daughter was moving around the room, not really doing anything. As always happens on this day, my thoughts turn to my stillborn daughter. Suddenly, my daughter plops a book onto my lap. 00;25;50;22 - 00;26;21;23 Genevieve Remember, she's two she cannot read yet. And an additional note the walls of the room were pretty much wall to wall books are. Scott my dream house. The book was given to me after the stillborn. It was a book for grieving parents. Startled at the coincidence, I just kind of stared at the book. My daughter, again, two years old, flipped open the book and pointed imperiously to a single paragraph. 00;26;21;25 - 00;26;47;26 Genevieve I obeyed and read the paragraph. It was talking about how a child who dies might reincarnate back into the same family or somewhere nearby. Oh my God, I have chills all over my body. So I wondered where my child might have reincarnated my daughter then patted my leg and said, I'm right here, mommy. And she spelled it like I'm right here, mommy. 00;26;47;28 - 00;27;19;28 Genevieve Up until those words, nothing had been spoken out loud. It gives me chills every time I remember it. Whoa. She later added an edit that said the name of the book was Our Children Forever. It wasn't, and I think maybe I skipped over it. But in the original post you said it was like a pagan book on grieving, but she said it wasn't like pagan, like Satanists, more of like a new age spiritual book rather than the traditional, like, you know, Christianity, if that makes sense. 00;27;20;01 - 00;27;28;12 Genevieve But whoa, that is crazy, but also beautiful. I oh. 00;27;28;19 - 00;27;35;19 Kaitlyn I think my chest just ripped open and then got abruptly sold short and like, grew the little. 00;27;35;22 - 00;27;43;27 Genevieve But 1AA beauty of just, I don't know, to be like both of my children are somehow with me still. 00;27;43;27 - 00;27;44;21 Kaitlyn Yeah. 00;27;44;23 - 00;27;47;20 Genevieve That's. Oh that's beautiful. 00;27;47;22 - 00;27;48;23 Kaitlyn I'm right here mommy. 00;27;49;00 - 00;27;53;23 Genevieve And oh my God, I would be destroyed. Oh. 00;27;53;26 - 00;27;55;01 Kaitlyn That's a beautiful one. 00;27;55;02 - 00;28;03;02 Genevieve Yeah. To follow up the I opened to your butthole and like I said, I'm ready. Oh, gosh. 00;28;03;05 - 00;28;14;00 Kaitlyn This one. This one's from Lunches and Bentos. My daughter started sleepwalking when she was about one and a half. That's a fear of mine. 00;28;14;02 - 00;28;14;18 Genevieve Nope. 00;28;14;21 - 00;28;38;21 Kaitlyn Every time she does, she walks around, chooses a spot and then starts digging in the carpet. What if you asked her what she's doing? She says can't find it. Can't find it and starts to cry. She's now three and still does it. Occasionally my husband just bends down with her, closes his fist and tells her he'll keep it safe, and when she satisfied, leads her back to bed. 00;28;38;24 - 00;29;04;13 Kaitlyn I told my mom and I said I hope she was a pirate who stashed treasure somewhere and when she finally remembers, will be rich, my mom looked at me and said she was thinking it was something else, but that she was looking for a dead body. Way to creep me out, mom. Oh my younger daughter, who is five months old, has a funny birthmark fully across the back of her neck at the base of her skull. 00;29;04;15 - 00;29;25;20 Kaitlyn I mentioned to my husband how in some cultures, it is believed that birthmark show how a person died in their past life. And he said, who beheads people these days? And immediately went, oh, ISIS and he got sad. Edit to add my mom's childhood thing was super freaky, and I just remembered that this is probably a good threat for it. 00;29;25;23 - 00;29;39;00 Kaitlyn So when my mom was young, she'd have a reoccurring dream about a concrete room with bars in the windows and a sink to one side, a chair in the middle, and a I hope I'm saying this right has Hasidic Jewish? 00;29;39;04 - 00;29;40;14 Genevieve Yes. Okay. Yes. 00;29;40;14 - 00;30;03;11 Kaitlyn Hasidic Jewish man sitting with his head bowed in the chair. Now she's Chinese and from Taiwan, had never met a white person until she came to America for work and didn't know what a Hasidic Jew was, etc. she came to the U.S. to work for a Chinese newspaper, and one day she passed a co-worker's desk and saw a picture in an article that made her stop for a second. 00;30;03;14 - 00;30;27;01 Kaitlyn It was the exact same room in her dream, down to the chair. Turns out that during World War Two, a boat of six Jewish refugees from Russia were caught off the coast of Taiwan, and they were kept as prisoners. All of them died in prison. But the weirdest thing was that the last one who passed away died the month my mom was born and was in the same town she was born in. 00;30;27;03 - 00;30;47;23 Kaitlyn So my mom has a piece of a Hasidic Jewish person soul in her in Daoism. I'm not Daoist, but it's part of the culture. They believe that the soul is made up of three parts, two of which return back into the big blob of the universe. And so your new soul could have parts of souls of other people, and someone else could have the same parts. 00;30;47;28 - 00;30;58;23 Kaitlyn So it's entirely possible you shared a past life with someone else. I've never heard that world. But first off, the who beheads people? Things like. 00;30;59;00 - 00;31;05;24 Genevieve That is. No, I don't like that. Who that is so freaky. Wow, that was a good one. 00;31;05;27 - 00;31;15;15 Kaitlyn But awesome. What is your child digging for? Right? Well, I hope that just watching like Jake and the Neverland Pirates on Disney and they really are just digging the treasure. I mean, but. 00;31;15;15 - 00;31;16;29 Genevieve I used to like to dig holes, but. 00;31;16;29 - 00;31;17;12 Kaitlyn I mean. 00;31;17;12 - 00;31;19;00 Genevieve Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00;31;19;02 - 00;31;21;07 Kaitlyn I didn't sleepwalk and do that one and a half though. 00;31;21;13 - 00;31;22;06 Genevieve Oh, Lord. 00;31;22;06 - 00;31;25;21 Kaitlyn But the mom that's had a crazy healing. 00;31;25;23 - 00;31;52;28 Genevieve Oh, that was a good one. This one's not nearly as long, but it also is something that I'm like, how are they just making this up? Like they can't just always be just making it up. So I don't know, Friday, Friday, Jones said. When my sister was three, she would go on and on about her brother Brian. We're all girls and we don't know where she would have heard the name, but it was all Brian does this. 00;31;52;28 - 00;32;23;06 Genevieve Brian and me used to do that on and on, thinking Brian was like an imaginary friend. I asked her where Brian was now. She said he's dead. I am to the bomb got us and our house has gone very weird. Oh my God, that is so crazy! And someone commented underneath and said, my little brother used to do this exact thing all the time. 00;32;23;10 - 00;32;51;09 Genevieve He would tell us stories about his dog, his hobbies. It was so weird. He kept all the details straight too. I someone else underneath commented that's crazy. Same with my brother. And it wasn't like outlandish made up adventures, just ordinary mundane things like his friends, places he went, food he ate. I can't remember too many details, but he could drive. 00;32;51;11 - 00;33;16;29 Genevieve Okay, so this is why to me it makes this concept of past lives more plausible. Because if we only heard stories that were crazy. Yeah, like, oh, my son said he was a World War Two veteran or mine was a president. Mine was a, you know, a geisha. Like it just these things that always have some sort of fantastic story attached to me, then that makes it less credible. 00;33;16;29 - 00;33;24;08 Genevieve But if it's this mundane shit, yeah. Because most people's lives are just mundane, routine hobbies, pets, friends. 00;33;24;08 - 00;33;41;29 Kaitlyn But like, and I like to play devil's advocate because I love to. I love to be into this, but I'm like, I never had a imaginary friend. I've heard people have just, you know, normal imaginary friends where it's just like, yeah, Gracie's waiting outside for me to go play. Oh, Gracie went to the bathroom real quick or two. 00;33;42;02 - 00;33;57;28 Kaitlyn Yeah, and I was. I don't have an imaginary friend. I was very imaginative. Like, I mean, I would walk into the kitchen randomly as a kid and be like, mom, I want to buy this, buy this. And like, she would go into, like, she had a little set up in the room and she'd be like, Jack, you can have this now. 00;33;57;28 - 00;34;05;03 Kaitlyn And I'm like, oh, like. And I could not have a snack unless I bought it. There was like, I remember a little phase of doing that. So like, it's like. 00;34;05;05 - 00;34;07;17 Genevieve You had a shopping. A idea was like. 00;34;07;20 - 00;34;11;04 Kaitlyn For groceries and playing doctor. 00;34;11;07 - 00;34;13;11 Genevieve Though. But did it really like. 00;34;13;13 - 00;34;22;09 Kaitlyn Is it imaginative? Was I a frickin like savers checkout lady? Was I did I like work at do your works? I hope I worked at Publix. 00;34;22;09 - 00;34;25;17 Genevieve I hope so too. They have good cookies. They're good subs. 00;34;25;19 - 00;34;43;22 Kaitlyn I could live off their subs, live off them. But it's just like, is it imaginary friend? But also like that's just something common to hear is like, oh, they're just playing make believe or they're useless. And it's like, no, but what if it's more than that? Because like this one. Yes. Who by? 00;34;43;25 - 00;34;44;16 Genevieve Oh no. 00;34;44;16 - 00;34;45;11 Kaitlyn Delete it. 00;34;45;13 - 00;34;47;27 Genevieve Of course, of course. 00;34;47;27 - 00;35;07;19 Kaitlyn My mom tells me that just as I was able to speak, I told her one time that I was starting to forget. She asked me, what do you mean? What are you starting to forget? The place where we all are before we're born. The beautiful place where we wait. I don't want to forget about it, but it's getting so hard to remember at this stage. 00;35;07;19 - 00;35;17;14 Kaitlyn I'm told that no element of religion had been discussed, and that I was far too young for TV. My parents aren't very religious anyhow, so strange to think that's what I was talking about. 00;35;17;20 - 00;35;18;21 Genevieve Whoa. 00;35;18;21 - 00;35;19;13 Kaitlyn I'm starting to. 00;35;19;13 - 00;35;33;09 Genevieve Forget. Okay, this makes me think of one of my favorite books is the original Mary Poppins by P.L. Travers, and it is nothing like the movie. 00;35;33;09 - 00;35;33;26 Kaitlyn Oh, okay. 00;35;33;27 - 00;36;09;29 Genevieve But there's actually additional kids in the original Mary Poppins. So there's Jane and Michael Banks, and then there's twins, John and Barbara, which is hilarious because it sounds very grown up. Dave and John and Barbara, the twins. And there's an entire chapter in Mary Poppins that is devoted to. It's like a scene in the nursery where the twins are in their cribs, and a crow or a raven comes to the window and they start talking with it, and they're telling it like they're giving it their little biscuits. 00;36;09;29 - 00;36;43;25 Genevieve They're arrowroot biscuits. They're talking to it about their day. They're asking him things and the crow tells them, well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We can talk about this now, but like, I'm already feeling sad because soon you won't remember, soon you won't remember me. And there's this whole thing about how they have this ability to communicate with animals and have this whole language and like, understanding of the world that everyone has when they're born. 00;36;43;25 - 00;37;03;09 Genevieve And then they lose once they get older. And at the end of the chapter, actually, it jumps to a few months in the future, and the crow comes back to their window while they're sitting in coats like, hey, John and Barbara like that. And they just kind of look at it and like, who? Like Gregor and the Crow. 00;37;03;09 - 00;37;27;26 Genevieve Sad because he realizes they've forgotten him because they're growing up and that's always stuck with me so hard because that was such a profound, like children's literary observation on that, in a sense. And that connection that kids seem to have, that something is open in them that we lose as we get older because the world just kind of takes it from us. 00;37;28;02 - 00;37;31;22 Genevieve But yeah, that just immediately made me think of that. 00;37;31;28 - 00;37;44;11 Kaitlyn And I like that analogy. I like I like the play of that. I know I've seen Mary Poppins, but I was scared of it as a kid. I did not like it. So I don't really know the plot that well anymore. 00;37;44;11 - 00;37;55;13 Genevieve The book is actually far darker than the movie. It's very magical, but there's elements of darkness. It feels kind of Tim Burton like, I don't want to spend too much on that, but I'll get excited about it. 00;37;55;15 - 00;38;01;04 Kaitlyn I hate remakes and all that, but because I never really cared for Mary Poppins as a kid, Tim Burton, Mary Poppins. 00;38;01;04 - 00;38;20;10 Genevieve Oh yes. Because, listen, there's a scene in that book where they go to a baker that Mary Poppins knows, and it's not one that the kids have ever been to before. They're like, we've never been here before. And Mary Poppins is like, shut up! Oh, well, this is my bakery. Now that I'm your nanny, we're going to come here. 00;38;20;14 - 00;38;49;23 Genevieve And behind the counter is a woman who's like age, and the kids are, like, staring at her and they're like, oh my God, she's so old looking. And she apparently leans over the counter. And I remember reading this as a kid and my brain being like, blown. And the book describes her name is Mrs. Corey. And Mrs. Corey leaned over and wiggled her fingers in the face of John and Barbara, the twins, and then she broke off two of her fingers and handed them to the twins. 00;38;49;25 - 00;39;13;04 Genevieve But when she got listen. But when she broke off, two of her fingers, they were peppermint sticks now, and she handed them to the kids. And then later the kids wake up in the night and they see Mrs. Corey walking down the street with a ladder and a bucket, y'all. And she goes to a field and she props the ladder up against the sky. 00;39;13;06 - 00;39;20;10 Genevieve And she goes up the ladder and starts taking stars out of her bucket and painting them into the sky. 00;39;20;11 - 00;39;24;21 Kaitlyn That this just gives me anxiety. Like, I don't like it, I don't like it, I like it. 00;39;24;23 - 00;39;38;09 Genevieve But she and the stars were stars that came from that time in the UK. Gingerbread slices had these little foil stars on them, so it was like she was taking those stars and putting them in the sky. 00;39;38;10 - 00;39;40;11 Kaitlyn What drugs was the author on. 00;39;40;13 - 00;39;52;05 Genevieve P.L. Travers, who was a woman? I have no idea. But then that book blew my mind when I was a little kid, because I had never read anything like it. And it's weirdly dark, but like. 00;39;52;06 - 00;39;52;16 Kaitlyn It is. 00;39;52;16 - 00;39;53;03 Genevieve Magical. 00;39;53;04 - 00;39;56;07 Kaitlyn I don't know why it gives me the heebie jeebies, but it did. 00;39;56;09 - 00;40;05;22 Genevieve I don't like it, but it doesn't feel sinister when you're reading it. And I maybe it's kind of creepy because in the context of what we're talking about. But yeah, it just it perfectly. 00;40;05;22 - 00;40;07;01 Kaitlyn Captures. 00;40;07;04 - 00;40;22;26 Genevieve That. It's almost like you experience everything through the eyes of the children to where they're viewing the world with this magical lens, where it makes you wonder if is Mary Poppins actually doing these things, or is it just how the children perceive her? 00;40;22;27 - 00;40;46;25 Kaitlyn Or, I mean, I think also the past lives kids in this, the way that children like just one thing they can latch on to and something like I still every time it thunders, I'm like, oh, God's just bowling. God's rearranging furniture. Because like as a kid, I was told like that and it would just make me feel secure and I'd be like, oh, the thunder. 00;40;46;25 - 00;41;06;18 Kaitlyn Like it's something bad, blah blah, blah, blah. I feel like if there was lightning, he had a strike. Like, so it's just it's and it's a crazy outlandish way of thinking. Yeah. So what if that like a kid, the kids latch on to things like, I know my two year old has watched me do something and like, I don't even know that he's watching me. 00;41;06;18 - 00;41;12;11 Kaitlyn And then he repeats and I'm like, why the fuck did you learn that from oh, me. Okay. 00;41;12;13 - 00;41;13;21 Genevieve Little sponges. 00;41;13;22 - 00;41;26;15 Kaitlyn Well, at the same time, they're genuinely they're just like, yeah, I can hear their brain rattling in their head because they're so, like, underdeveloped and just like they're ready to be shaped and molded in, like, it's just God. 00;41;26;15 - 00;41;30;05 Genevieve Yeah. So no pressure on us, Lord. 00;41;30;07 - 00;41;32;13 Kaitlyn Man. 00;41;32;15 - 00;41;58;18 Genevieve So now that we've, like, given you guys a taste of those stories and we will link that thread because, oh my gosh, you can bury yourself reading them. There's so, so many. But how the hell do we even attempt to explain the stuff we just read from a science perspective? Or like, has anyone and we talked about it a little bit with the cellular stuff, but this is a little bit different. 00;41;58;18 - 00;42;36;08 Genevieve What this professor has to say. So like we've already talked about many people, maybe you guys included are quick to dismiss examples like this because you're just like, oh, kids have crazy overactive imaginations, and maybe it's just a bizarre coincidence. Or they're straight line. They're just parroting something they heard on a commercial, whatever. But for people like Doctor Jim Tucker, who is a professor of psychiatry and neurobehavioral sciences at the University of Virginia, these claims of past lives in children are something he takes very seriously. 00;42;36;11 - 00;43;03;13 Genevieve And he's not the only one. So he, along with a team that has been operating for over 50 years through the university, have closely examined over 2500 cases of children who claim to have memories of an existence before for their current one, and not so much reincarnation in the sense that we think of it. We're like, oh, someone dies and they come back as a cockroach or a cat. 00;43;03;13 - 00;43;28;27 Genevieve I mean, since doing this podcast, I think we can agree there are quite a few people who had come back as a cockroach. But okay, so I'm going to try to break it down, but it's this idea of someone's consciousness. So that elusive thing that makes you, you, we also call it our soul or our spirit. I always picture it as that little white spark that the Dementors are trying to suck out of Harry. 00;43;28;27 - 00;43;32;18 Genevieve Like that's the soul. But I imagine that's what souls look like. 00;43;32;18 - 00;43;33;23 Kaitlyn Sorry. Dirty. First. 00;43;33;27 - 00;43;38;12 Genevieve I'm sorry. Get your mind out of the gutter. Okay, guys. 00;43;38;15 - 00;43;40;08 Kaitlyn Go on. I'm so sorry. 00;43;40;10 - 00;44;30;26 Genevieve But whatever this thing is, sometimes not all the time, but sometimes during the death of a person's physical body, their consciousness or their soul or whatever it is doesn't cross over to the afterlife in what we think of as the afterlife. Or hang around as, like, a ghost or a haunting, like we've also talked about, because that usually you're isolated to a place not in a person, you're in an attic or a basement or whatever, but instead your consciousness slips into another living body, nearly always a young child and that child, because all the reasons we talked about so young, open, impressionable, that child retains their memories because they also haven't developed new ones of 00;44;30;26 - 00;45;02;09 Genevieve their own. Right. So they retain those memories, maybe even some personality quirks or a skill that makes no sense for them to have. Oh, I forgot to read this one comment on the Reddit thread before, but there was one where this guy said my stepdaughter. The first time I met her, she was like 4 or 5 years old and I had this pretend like a display sword, like a broadsword, and she said, I asked her mom about it later. 00;45;02;09 - 00;45;32;18 Genevieve No context whatsoever. Like she had no reason to do this. But she walked over to the sword and she knelt in front of it like a knight kneeling in front of something, and he was like, what a weirdo. Oh, that's so weird. And then there was another where this one woman can speak fluent Russian. And she shouldn't be able to like she said her mom told her that just one day she just started speaking Russian. 00;45;32;21 - 00;45;33;04 Kaitlyn Child to. 00;45;33;04 - 00;45;44;10 Genevieve Spy, isn't that. Yeah. And so what did the converse was like. Well yep. They were a spy the past life. But isn't that crazy though. And it can't be connected to anything with a rational explanation. 00;45;44;10 - 00;45;44;27 Kaitlyn Brain scan. 00;45;45;03 - 00;46;15;05 Genevieve Brain scan. Yes. So because there are so many instances of this happening, like they can't all just be false, right? So Doctor Tucker, as well as other great thinkers such as Max Planck, who is the father of quantum theory, we are not going to dive into that. But basically quantum theory is like consciousness is fundamental. So consciousness and basically the the spiritual realm is and matter comes from it. 00;46;15;08 - 00;46;51;14 Genevieve So consciousness, it's basically just more of a sciency way of talking about intelligent design or maybe even God or a spiritual realm, but that matter is derived from consciousness, not the other way around. So matter doesn't create consciousness, but that consciousness exists outside of matter. So in the case of the little boy named James, who are about to finish off telling you about this would mean that consciousness would not necessarily be dependent on a physical brain in order to survive, and could continue after the physical brain and body dies. 00;46;51;17 - 00;47;14;04 Genevieve So in many of these cases, like James, as we're about to tell you, at least on the face of it, consciousness has then become attached to a new brain and manifests itself as past life memories. AKaitlyn is about to tell us the story, but this is from Doctor Tucker, and it's a specific case that he studied closely and became very interested in. 00;47;14;04 - 00;47;30;08 Genevieve And then he went on an episode of NPR and gave an interview about it. And actually, you can find an additional interview that his family did about this story. That's really fascinating, but I will let you tell this to the people. 00;47;30;10 - 00;48;02;22 Kaitlyn So James is the son of a Christian couple in Louisiana, and when he was little, he loved his toy planes. But also around the time of his second birthday, he started having horrific nightmares. 4 or 5 times a week of being in a plane crash. Same James, same though. And then during the day he talked about this plane crash and said that he had been a pilot and that he had flown off of a boat, and his dad asked him the name of it and he said, Natoma. 00;48;02;25 - 00;48;28;15 Kaitlyn He then said he had been shot down by the Japanese and that he had been killed at Iwo Jima, and it lost one pilot there, a young man named James Houston, and this James, his plane crashed exactly the way that James Leininger had described, hit in the engine, exploded into fire and crashed into the water and quickly sank. 00;48;28;22 - 00;48;55;08 Kaitlyn And when that happened, the pilot of the plane next to his was named Jack Larson. So after Doctor Tucker tells the story on an episode of NPR, the interviewer asks what we are all thinking, which is how do you know that these kids aren't just echoing things they have heard their parents talk about, or making up stories, using their imagination or articulating dreams they may have had. 00;48;55;10 - 00;49;21;04 Kaitlyn And Doctor Tucker's response was very compelling. He points out that certainly if they had never been able to verify that what James said match somebody who died, then you could certainly just mark it down as being fantasy. But in his case, the previous person, James Houston, was so obscure, because he was a pilot who was killed 50 years before. 00;49;21;05 - 00;49;21;15 Genevieve Oh my. 00;49;21;15 - 00;49;50;19 Kaitlyn God. And he was from Pennsylvania and James was in Louisiana. It seems absolutely impossible that he could have somehow gained this information as a two year old through some sort of normal means. In fact, it took his dad a couple of years. Well, really, more than a couple of years, 3 or 4 years to be able to track it all down and see that, in fact, that what James, the child was saying all did fit for this pilot. 00;49;50;19 - 00;49;52;16 Kaitlyn James, who was killed. 00;49;52;18 - 00;50;23;01 Genevieve Wow. So ultimately, Doctor Tucker thinks that cases like James and all the ones we talked about on Reddit contribute to the seemingly huge body of evidence that consciousness, at least in certain circumstances, can survive the death of the body that life after death isn't necessarily just a fantasy or something to be considered on faith, but can also be approached in an analytical and scientific way. 00;50;23;05 - 00;50;36;05 Genevieve And I mean, you guys can think about all this for yourselves and do your own research. I certainly find myself going back to these Reddit threads and googling stuff. 00;50;36;06 - 00;51;05;23 Kaitlyn I do love the Reddit threads because I feel like it's more it's not more factual, but it's actual people. Yeah, telling you their stories where like other platforms don't allow the masses to meet up for one specific topic. Yeah, and share all those niche like similarities or whatever. And yeah, I don't I love topics like this too, because I love topics where you can be on opposite ends of the spectrum of believing, and you can still discuss it. 00;51;05;25 - 00;51;06;17 Genevieve Absolutely. 00;51;06;17 - 00;51;12;23 Kaitlyn Like you can share your opinions, you can like, yeah, bro, your opinions. You can change. You can like I like it. 00;51;12;23 - 00;51;43;17 Genevieve It's a good way of bringing together hard scientific fact and spirituality and philosophy, and we don't have time to go into this story now because we have already taken out too much of you guys as time. But I just want to tease you that I got so into this subject that I wanted to do a deep dive on a story that I know several other podcasts have covered, but it's I thinkKaitlyn knows where I'm going with this, but this, not this right now. 00;51;43;17 - 00;52;03;24 Genevieve But be looking for an episode to drop in your feed about the tale of Shanti Devi, who is an Indian child who claimed that she lived twice. And y'all, this story and my jaw was on the fucking floor when I heard this first covered. I don't remember who I heard cover and we. 00;52;03;24 - 00;52;04;09 Kaitlyn Didn't cover. 00;52;04;09 - 00;52;04;18 Genevieve This. 00;52;04;24 - 00;52;05;29 Kaitlyn No we have okay. 00;52;06;01 - 00;52;22;17 Genevieve No, we have not. But when she was just four years old, Shanti began telling her parents very specific, like eerily specific details about her old life and her husband and her children in a town that was 75. 00;52;22;17 - 00;52;24;02 Kaitlyn Baby girl had receipts. 00;52;24;03 - 00;52;43;23 Genevieve Uhhuh. 75 miles from where she was born, in a place she had never been to before. So we're going to tell that story in four, because there are so many details that it can be a full episode. And I would like to talk about this a little bit more. So be looking for that episode to drop in your feed, but we hope you really enjoyed this. 00;52;43;28 - 00;53;00;09 Genevieve Dipping our toe into the water of past lives. Because man. And please let us know in the comments. Email us if you have your own spooky like memories of your siblings doing anything weird, your own kids, your. 00;53;00;11 - 00;53;01;21 Kaitlyn Freaky thing, did you. 00;53;01;21 - 00;53;24;05 Genevieve Say yes? We we want to hear. So I think we're also going to start our own Reddit threads. The person who is telling us what we need to be doing to get our podcast out there said that we need to be on Reddit more. And so I get it. Yeah. So I think that we're also going to try to do something on there with this topic since that one is closed. 00;53;24;05 - 00;53;33;14 Genevieve You know, it's the comments have been ended, but it's been eight years. We need some new stories to there's been plenty of new kids that have been spawned and good. 00;53;33;14 - 00;53;33;29 Kaitlyn Lord. 00;53;34;00 - 00;53;38;00 Genevieve Past lives to be transparent. 00;53;38;02 - 00;53;42;06 Kaitlyn Now though, the children are gonna be like, what weird thing did your child say? Skip toilet? 00;53;42;07 - 00;53;44;27 Genevieve Oh, my God, I'm going to be like, go back. 00;53;44;27 - 00;53;47;19 Kaitlyn Praise God my children have not entered that era. 00;53;47;19 - 00;53;48;29 Genevieve Oh, Lord have mercy. 00;53;48;29 - 00;53;52;05 Kaitlyn I can only imagine what their generation is going to cook up. Though. 00;53;52;07 - 00;54;23;28 Genevieve I walked in on my husband showing no my children that video and of course them all laughing their heads off. And I was like, what have you done? Oh man, if you needed any confirmation beyond what we talked about today, that the world is kind of a freaky place. Good Lord, this ain't the podcast for you, but we're happy to be here and kick in and always remember to have courage and stay kind. 00;54;24;01 - 00;54;33;04 Kaitlyn Of a bitch. I'm saying that one loud because the world is a shitty place, and don't bow down to people who try to trample you. 00;54;33;05 - 00;54;37;22 Genevieve You are 100% right. Thank you, Kaitlyn. 00;54;37;24 - 00;54;38;24 Kaitlyn Bye.