Hi guys, welcome back to this coolest pod in the game where I pick people's brains about things that keep me up at night
I'm your host Mel and on today's episode for the hookup culture
I'm joined by the beautiful Skyler who will give us all the intel about hookup culture
So if you don't wouldn't mind I can't talk for shit if you wouldn't mind introducing yourself to my listeners
That'd be awesome. Oh my god, of course
Hi everyone, I'm Skyler Hutchin call me sky
Hi
sophomore Emerson and I love Mel. I fucking love Skyler again shout out Nia Harman for introducing me to half the people on this
podcast love you wish you were here, but
this is going to be a a
Long episode I feel like because hookup culture is something I am very
Interested in learning more about because I feel like it's so prevalent in
Our generation because like obviously like our parents
I'm sure they had like something like similar to hookup culture or whatever
But I feel like the fact that it has like a name now like it like and I've participated in it like so many people
Participate in it. Like I just I want to hear someone else's perspective on this. So
Just off the bat. What does hookup culture mean to you like when you hear that? Yeah
Um to me, I think that hookup culture essentially means just like getting with like multiple different people
Like not sticking with one person like just being able to just like explore
Okay. Yeah, and I feel like
The hooking up aspect of like a person's life
Well for me personally comes
Following a tragic relationship
I'm sorry, that's funny. Do you agree would you agree?
Yeah, if my laugh just said anything yes
Okay, I'm so glad so there's a lot of different things
I want to go into right now, but I also want to know like to you what is a hookup because so many people have like
Okay, tell me okay. This is such a good question because
Okay, so I finished hooking up with guy
and
He asked me he was like so like what's your body count?
Like how many people have you been with that I'm a son and I was like oh like just like two people
Uh-huh, and I was like what about you because I was so curious
Yeah, what about you and he was like oh like four or five
And I was like and I told him I was like you're kind of a whore
And so I was like and he was like yeah, like I know like people say that about me whatever
And but then it brought me to this question like what is hookup culture like what is hooking up for people?
Because it's like is it just like making out with people is give me like or like whatever or having sex
for me uh-huh for me I
Feel like I need to stick to a definition cuz I don't but I want to stick up stick to the definition of sex
Okay, see I agree with that cuz like if I just make out with someone. I'm like oh, I made out with them
That's it or like if okay. This is mom sign off right now like please so much explicit content is about to be like
Perpetrated right now like I don't want you to hear this
But like if someone like fingered me okay he fingered that's it like I'm not gonna say like I hooked up with them like cuz hookup
Like for me means the act of sex right so
Okay, glad we got that out of the way, so I want to ask you a question
question
One-night stands or exclusive hookups and like this is this is very prevalent at Emerson College
So I want to hear what you have to say about this
Okay
Like what do I prefer probably neither?
Fair enough, but I haven't had a one-night stand at Emerson because I feel like every
Because also like I've only been with two guys at Emerson. I'm very picky. Yeah
Well, I try to be very
But yeah, like the guys that I've hooked up with at Emerson. I've only had sex with one person
I'm just crazy. Okay, but they they always come back
Yeah, to be real to be so real and like first of all look at you
So they always come back
But like I just feel like it's just so easy also to come back because we live in such a small community and
Sometimes we all live in the same building so it's an LB bro. Sorry LB. No
Yes, I talked about this like with Tommy and one of my episodes last season
I'll be quite literally like that was the fire pits of hell because that was high school before we all that was high school
So high it was insane like I like I don't even want to go back to that time
It was
We're gonna talk about that. Oh my I feel like the laughs on so ugly on here today
Not cute. It's funny. It's very funny
Like the looks were giving each other I really wish I could make these into videos, but no
This would be too iconic people would die die simply pass away
But for me personally like I don't know I don't think I've ever had a one night stand
So I can't really speak on that like but also it's really tough to have exclusive like
Exclusive hookups here because I feel like the guys they really like keeping their options open
Which you know what fair enough, okay?
Have your options open, but then don't like in private treat me like a girlfriend. Oh, that's my thing
Speak on it, please. Okay. Let me say something. Please. This is the same. How I was talking about earlier. Okay
Um, we can call him Charlie. Okay for the mainly um, okay, so me and Charlie working up
Whatever we finished whatever he finished and
Make it clear
Exactly um, whatever he finished and
He started asking me like all these like deep and personal questions and then he was like he was like
He was like I kind of want to date someone and I'm like what mind you this is getting in graphic detail
I'm so yeah, yeah, please like I'm still sitting on top of him. He's still inside me while we're having this fucking conversation
Now oh my god. Yeah, I wanted dates someone. Is he insane? Oh?
Charlie watch your back, baby
Okay
What is he like okay now? Oh?
Oh, we don't talk now, but this isn't this isn't like sus
Okay, because well also this is a whole different story on the low
I don't know if you'll keep this in but oh this is uncut my friend
Okay, okay, okay. Um, okay. Well basically like I hooked up with him last year and then like
Talk to him like all over the summer or whatever, but like not like talking but just like captain contact
Yeah, and then like come back to Emerson
Fucking like the first
Thursday back at school like the first week of school and then it was that Thursday. He's actually he goes. What are you doing?
Okay, yeah, whatever. Let's just how that's just how he is and then we didn't hook up that. Oh, yes
Sorry, that was bad
Whatever we hooked up that night and that's when he popped the question on me
Whatever and then we started we still like captain contact for a little bit and then it was just like poof
He's gone and then and then oh
I saw him at the dining hall with my friend. Are we fucking made direct eye contact?
Okay, no fucking recognition in the world. He looked at me like I was a wall
What I was like bitch. Oh my god
It's something about that dining hall too because bra baby
You were inside of me not two seconds ago and now you not even you can't even hold eye contact. What's up?
Like what's up there?
Which is the same link is like why well I have my like wreaking suspicions
But at the same time it's like we fucked multiple times and then one day I'm gonna see in the dining hall and you pretend
I don't exist which is this is saying it's very should be adults
I think being adult. Thank you exactly and I feel like also with hookah hooking up with people
There's like this mutual understanding that okay, like yes, we're not dating. Yes
We're not being cutesy and cupbly, but you still owe me that decency to like hi Skyler
How's your David? How are you?
Like no, it's it's honestly very baffling to me. I'm trying to think of
Storytimes. Oh
This one guy right I started I started a key because I had a boyfriend
Whole first semester. Okay same last year. I was long distance
Don't recommend don't
recommend like zero out of ten it's it's
Anyway, it's that's a story for another fucking day honestly exactly, but me and this guy start hooking up, right and
Like it was whatever like he's such a sweet guy
We're still friends to this day honestly, but whenever I was it's so awkward or never like it's just so awkward
Which is so strange because we hang out with friends also like friends of friends and like we'll hang out alone
And like it's so nice and I'm able to talk to him or like just have nice conversations
And then when I see him in public, it's like oh like what's going on?
It's like he has a panic mode on when he sees me in public like I'm not naked calm down like like nothing's happening right now
I'm just saying hi. How are you like that's it? I like I don't understand it. I think it's something with the guys here
I don't know. I'm like it doesn't hurt me, but at the same time. I'm like you we've literally seen all of each other
That's my point like just being adult and smile at me
That's literally it like you're not asking for the stars in the moon like I know I'm not gonna get it from you
Speak on it speak on it right now
I
Want to talk about how
Unfulfilling it is
Okay, and that's something that I've struggled with personally like being in college and like
partaking in hookup culture and like kind of
Like I don't even know how to explain it kind of wanting more
But also knowing that that person is not gonna give me more
But then also still wanting to hook up because at the end of the day
I'm a human being like a cute little hookup here and there I want it like I don't know like want to hear your thoughts
Okay, okay. Yeah
Um, okay, I want to profess that I'm a very like sex positive individual like me too. Yeah, like love
Love all that very fun very fulfilling. Yeah, also like keep in mind. I've never finished
Yeah, so talk about
Fucking fulfilling
Whatever
Oh no, it's okay. No, it's okay. Sometimes I think about it too intensely and then I'm like wow, I'm really
But I don't want to get into that. That's really sad
Okay, yeah, she has a Google Doc guys. She's so prepared for this. I love it. Okay
I feel like it's unfulfilling. This is what I wrote down
I feel like it's unfulfilling because people don't hold themselves to high enough standards when they are okay with people
Mm-hmm, but it's also like when you're going into the hookup culture
That's also something you should keep in mind is that like not everyone you hook up with is gonna be your boyfriend
Not everyone you hook up with this gonna be a great hookup. Mm-hmm. I've had bad hookups before it's
Yeah, and it's gonna be unfulfilling because yeah, like the moment that it is fulfilling that should be your person for the
Okay, yeah, you know what I mean? It's like
It's I don't know. It's like you can't
Put yourself in there just having these expectations of it being just like so
Astronomically good. Yeah, yeah when you literally are in college and hooking up with the guy who's probably had sex for only two years of his life
Yeah, okay, I
Don't know I think like yes high expectations, but in my opinion high expectations on the man or sorry not the man the boy
You're seeing
Yeah, I had to clear that one up. Yeah, I had to clear that up always but like high expectations on who you're fucking
But don't have high expectations on like the experience
Yeah, and you know what I?
100% totally wholeheartedly agree with that because like I wouldn't say I caught
Feelings like that's a good segue for my next topic
but I wouldn't say I caught feelings for the person but like I
Don't I wish there was a like a less strong word for feelings
You know like I wanted to get to know the connection the connection
That women unfortunately do get more than men do which fucking sucks
Cuz like I just want to be able to have a hookup and be done with it like that's all I want
It's so fucking hard
It's so hard and I don't understand it cuz half these guys are so like so not
And I'm like giving them the time of day texting them or answering their tags and like oh
What are you liking their Instagram stories like a bitch like a fucking pussy ass bitch?
And it's like okay like have your head on your shoulders, please like this is not who your mother
Come on and it makes me so upset at myself because I know that's not who I am like I know that's not who I am
But then once you get into the cycle of like oh way, I really like hooking up with this person
I really like this person's company and it's like oh you're a bitch. That's on your knees like it
Yeah, and I don't I don't like it like one bit, but you know we're
We're trying to get past it and we're still in college still learning so
Like that's definitely something that a lot of people deal with right now
Speaking of feelings catching unprecedented feelings and getting feelings caught for you by someone
I want to hear your thoughts on this and then I'll give mine. Okay, perfect. Actually, I have two perfect stories
Yay, ironically my last boyfriend was exactly the epitome of him catching feelings for me
Okay. Yeah, okay, so
Summer before freshman year of college
Living okay, I'm I'm not experimenting. Okay. That was a little much
I'm just having fun like whatever like I go through like a couple of boys and then I start talking to this one guy I
Don't really have a name for him because I would just call him his regular name and my mother told me not to do that
So, okay. Yeah, whatever like me and him like we went to elementary school together middle school high school
but we like never really talked we had homeroom together and then
It's July and this person just like pops into my life like whatever we just start talking in the night
I invited to I invite him to some of my like friends like functions
whatever
Come I don't know like a little bit like I'm starting to have a little bit of like like I kind of
You know
So we like start like testing the water
And I don't know like I'm vibing like it's cool. We don't really talk about like what's going on
We're just like having a good all time. I move to Boston for college. Yeah, and then he's like and then I
And then whatever I'm like snap like we kill it
We still keep in contact whatever we're still like talking peruse and I ask him and I was like, oh like
We're not like exclusive, right?
And he was like no we are
My dude like that night I was gonna go out and then easy way to find out exactly and then this news just hit me
And I was like fuck, okay
So I was like fuck like
There was also like at this point in my life like Adam or son there was no one that really like caught my eye
Okay, like whatever
So we just start dating and I just like I'm thrown into this like new worlds of like dating him
And like long distance
Yeah, I know it was like it wasn't bad per se like but I also like I never loved him and he loved me and
Like I never told him that I loved him because we had this conversation openly
I'm not gonna tell someone who I don't love I love you. Yeah, that fucks up with someone's head for sure exactly
So that's my story on someone catching feelings for me and me not really seeing it that way
Like I liked him, but I was like I'm going to college like across the country like this probably isn't like the best idea
I don't know if you got if you know what this is but like zip codes
No, okay, maybe that's sudden California thing
Essentially, it's just like people when you come back home like you just like hook up with them and then you'd like come back
So they're like your zip code, you know like when you go back home, it's like oh like what's up like?
So I thought we were just gonna be like fucking like zip codes and then he pulls it on I want to be exclusive with you
And I'm like fuck. Okay. I guess
So yeah, and then I ended up fucking dating him for the longest time I've dated any person in my life
Keep in mind that was six months, but yeah, but that's still that's half a year exactly in college too. So that's crazy
That's a huge amount of time. Yeah
What about the other story time?
Okay, yeah
Is Loki more on me?
Oh, yeah, well, it's I was caught at a vulnerable time and place. Okay, I know I just broke up with that boyfriend
I was just talking about and then boom I come back to Emerson. It's spring semester. I'm freshly single
Yeah, and my friend Maddie takes me out to a basketball game. Oh my god. Hey Maddie
She's I want her to come on so bad. She wants you she wants to come on, too
She was like, oh my god, you're going on
Yeah, she's like, oh my god plug. Okay. Anyway, so I go fuck I shouldn't have said the sport but
That just hit me
It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Um, so I go to this game and I
Go there with you, Nea and Maddie. Okay, so we go
So we go and I asked money
I'm like, oh like who are the people on the team like whatever
Cuz like this is my first time ever going to like an Emerson like sports game fucking sports
It's okay, I'm like digging myself a fucking even bigger grave
Whatever so what we go to this game. I asked Maddie who the players are
She lets me know and I follow two of them after the game
Two of them
And then I like one of their stories. We'll call him will okay. I liked will story
Whatever like he DM's me that night and he was like who's like when are we hanging out Skyler?
I was like the fuck whoa because no one's been that just bold direct him bold yeah
Ever in my life like ever because that's like it wasn't like bold and be like let's fuck it was both me like let me take you out
Yeah, yeah, that's really attractive. Yeah, that is attractive
Yeah, sure, so I was like oh
So whatever like
We like text over DM or on Instagram whatever and then we ended like planning a day
And he was like let me get your number and help us like fuck you want my number not my snapchat like God again
That's so attractive when it got
Like he was just like setting himself up for this. Yeah, sure
So we go in this state
And this is where it kind of gets a little funny in my opinion
So I go on this date with will and
We're like I meet him like this is actually my first time ever talking in person. Oh, yeah, okay
But he tells me that we've met before in the elevator and I completely ignored him
And I was like oh, I don't actually ever remember that whatever not big to the story
So we go on this date and we go to this pizza place at Newberry dirty water. Okay. Yeah. Yeah
So we go there
I'm a pescatarian, okay, so I can't eat like pepperoni pizza
Yeah, I can't eat pineapple pizza pepperoni pizza meat lovers, whatever
So I'm like I'm very I was like hey like I'm pescatarian so I can only eat like these and I'm like listed in law firm
I'm so nervous
It's I think thinking back on it now like I find it funny, but some of my friends at home
They're like Skyler like what the fuck he did this
So I like
Tell him everything that I can eat and he was like, okay cool
And then so we're like next in line to order
And he was like to the lady who is taking your order. He was like, oh, yeah, can we do half pineapple?
Half fucking I don't remember what it was, but it was a Greek salad essentially on the pizza. Oh
So I was like I was like, okay number one you ordered for me. Yeah, never met you before ordered for me
Number two
The fuck
No, no all the options no literally
Okay, I love this this is the loudest we've ever been on the pot. I'm fucking loving this but out of every
Greek salad
Salad in pineapple like making that pizza like they were like the fuck are these people my stomach is actually
Turning
But was the date good
Okay, yes, the date was good. I think
Problem is is that like I did my
Research about him and also like Maddie told me about him. So I like I knew like about him before like I met him in person
And so
Like I don't know I just like I found that kind of like detrimental to it because I was there was something that he was talking about
And I was like I already know all about this
But I have to pretend that I don't
Yeah, and then I also told him that I think I stalked his mom's Instagram and then he was like
He was really taken aback, but he still came to my room later that night
Because obviously something worked that's so funny. I'm screaming you told him
I did well the problem with me is that like I really don't get
No, I love that about you so much like so the fuck what like you said he ended up coming to your room
So he did I mean at the end of the day you were up. So and he told me after
We didn't have sex. Mm-hmm, but like after he finished
He said and I quote I've been told I have to say this story he said welcome to the jungle
No signing off bye guys. This is such a good episode. Love you guys
Oh, welcome to the jungle fucking welcome to the jungle. What am I entering like a rock concert?
I think I was literally so flabbergasted I was like I don't think I I
Did I don't think I said anything. I think I was like I have to go to the bathroom. Oh my god
Wait, but like how do you even come up with something like that and just think about it?
He said it to me again this year when I went over to his place. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. When I went back
He said it when I entered the door
Oh my god, we're not on the same shit. Are we like I
Think I just would have like I would have screamed
Well, that's why everyone was like sky like you have to tell this story because it's like that was probably the best story
We've ever heard on this podcast like welcome to the jungle now
Please
No, I'm really like that makes me really cringe like my whole body is like
Mmm, and like did the hooking up?
Well, obviously because it's this fucking year and I saw him again
But he is like the only person at Emerson. This is really humbling for me to say this because he's probably gonna listen to this
Probably yeah, I will
He's probably the only person at Emerson where I was like no like I definitely could date you
Okay, so many people are like well so many people may probably like here back at home. He has a lot of fans back home
But he does I know it's interesting
The diversity, but he's like the person that I like I like him. Okay. I like I caught unprecedented feelings for him
And they're still here probably oh
It's a humbling moment, but I feel like that's so okay though cuz like I mean it happens shit happens
He from what I'm hearing is a charming guy
So
I mean I don't blame you like like I don't blame you like you can't be yourself up over that like I'm not mad at myself
It's more of that. He's just and I've told him this before he is so fucking confusing
And it's like from like everything up until now it's like you were so direct in the beginning and then now you're just like
So utterly confusing that it's just like it just is annoying. Yeah, it's a lot to deal with for sure
I talked about that with Nia actually on our episode about like guys and like
them being so confusing and like having like ambiguous meanings to everything they say you have to fucking decipher that shit
Like it's like why should we have to do that?
Like I don't understand like just I'm not asking to be your girlfriend
Just be serious talk to me like be direct with me. You were able to be direct with me before so what's changed?
Yeah, what's changed like I I personally don't understand, but you know what shout out will welcome to the jungle
That was quite the story and it's a silly story
Definitely a silly story
No, I can't think about that
I can't okay, I don't like so but this is a good segue to the
Situation ship art. Oh god, so would you would you call will a situation ship?
I
Don't think so
Maybe no actually no, I wouldn't think so just because it's like it was never like we were like talking like on a day-to-day basis
Mm-hmm, but like talking in the sense of like because when I think of a situation ship
I think of someone like you're that you're like flirty with
You basic you're doing the same rituals as you would if you're dating someone, but you're not not
Exclusive like there's no boundaries. There's no guidelines. There's nothing and like me and will weren't talking aren't talking
Like sense like at all
Um, so no, I don't think so unless fucking he has to say otherwise, which I highly doubt so okay, okay?
But I want to hear your thoughts about
situationships and potentially story times if you have any I have a couple okay, I
Don't I
Wouldn't say I have a situation ship story
I think I more have a story where like I felt deeply in love with this guy and I still am deeply in love with him
Yeah
Back home
He is like the love of my like I would marry him, but that's another topic okay, I
Just sound so interesting on this podcast
Oh, you're awesome. You're to work. You're for sure top three most interesting guests. I've had on here
Okay, well, I'm so glad anyways the situation ship stuff. I
Don't have any stories about it what I think about it. I
just I don't
Really like it because it ends up always hurting the woman. Yep. Let's be real
It always ends up hurting the girl
100% agree with you on that. That's just like so unfair for so many reasons like why do we have to have this like
There was no such thing as a situation ship like I really don't think there was ever such a thing
until like the aspect of like social media
So true, so and I feel like that's the same with hookup culture honestly. Yeah, I feel like that's the same but
Situation ships hate them hate them with everything inside of me
I think they are the most awful thing to have ever come out of hookup culture
because first of all like like you said the woman always ends up getting so hurt because
like
You go into it with expectations right because it's like it's not exclusive but like when you have a situation ship with someone
Like you still hang out with the person you do sexual things with it's like it's
Literally a relationship just not the title and that's what I think
Makes for the most hurt because you go into it like you're treating this person like they're your partner
But then you're still uncertain cuz like oh, they're not my partner
So like what am I doing like you still want it like hang out with this person and like spend time with this person and do all
The sexual things and it's like so confused like mind-boggling like you still want to do it
Which is so fucking frustrating like I don't know any comments before my story time
Just like a hundred percent in the grants with you. Yeah, like I haven't that just remind me
I haven't had anything like personal that was a situation ship really
But like I've seen some of my friends go through like numerous situations ships and I'm always like what the fuck
Like my exact sentiments. Yeah, like I'm just like I'm sorry. I actually didn't know if we can cast on here
I'm doing that a little bit too much, but
I
Just like I just don't really
Understand like I just like cuz it just seems like they should be dating and they are dating
But then you ask them and they're like oh like no like we aren't dating
We're still talking and I'm like so you guys are still talking, but you're having sex on FaceTime. You're doing phone sex
You guys are
Dating literally dating like where do you draw the line? That's my main problem with it and I
Would say that
Junior year not no junior year of high school. I was in a relationship senior year of high school
Definitely was in the situation ship arc era of my life for sure
I remember I was in a situation ship with this kid and
What do we call him?
Brad okay, Brad
First of all, he was the most by that time
I was very emotionally unavailable because I had just gotten cheated on broken up with so yeah
Yeah, so it's just a whole thing where I was like, okay? I need like no commitment
But still want like someone to tag along life with right now, you know
So me and Brad like we start like being flirty with each other in class like everyone's noticing it
whatever it was that type of situation and
I can't remember the first time we hooked up. It was probably at like his house or something
Yeah, so I go over it like it was like a party or like a chill or whatever
And so I go to his house and then yeah a bunch of people like end up leaving and then I go to his room
and then we hook up right and
We start like talking, but it's not like a talking words like sweet like hey my love
How are you like not that we're just like talking like making plans next time we can hook up. That's what it was
Yeah, I just remembered
Tell me story. No, it's big. Oh
Do you want to tell me after well?
We can I can go after your story. Okay, okay?
So start like hooking up like on a regular basis like I
Remember there was one time where I started catching feelings for him
There was but I don't think it was feelings because like I said, I was so emotionally unavailable
I was just like oh, I really want to spend more time with this person because like when we did stop our
Situation trip like I wasn't bad hurt like I was just like bummed
But anyways, it was like a 420 party he was having right and so like it was me two of my girlfriends and like a couple of his friends
So we pull up and then he's like hugging me
He's like sitting behind me like arms wrapped around me and so that's where the confusion started
I was like, huh, I did not think we were I didn't think we were doing this like what's up
And so like we end up hooking up that night. We hook up we had like this friend like throw a euphoria party
We hooked up there like it was just hook up upon hook up upon hook up
and I was like wait like what is this and
Like he I think he insinuated that he didn't want like but it was very rude like the way he said it like he didn't want anymore
And I started like being very standoffish and like ghosting him kind of and then he went and told like our mutual friend
Like what the fuck is wrong with her blah blah blah so that like just the whole
Seekersy of it all just really hurt me and him going behind my back talking to our other friend
That's what really hurt me like I don't know
I just fucking hate situationships if you're in one, please get the fuck out of it like as soon as possible like it's the worst
Yeah, I
Feel the same because guess what this I can't believe my fucking forgot about this. This is embarrassing
Um, I was in a situation ship. I'm still in a situation. She's been going on for like three or four years
What yeah, well the thing is is that I forgot about it because it's like it's just gone to be like so casual
Like it's just come to be so casual
So let me let me set the scene for you. Okay?
So
He's my next-door neighbor. Oh, yeah, that's such a movie. Oh
Yeah, okay, so he was my next-door neighbor and we'd walk to school together starting sophomore year
Oh, we'd walk to school together all the time like me and him we became like really good friends
Like freshman year to sophomore year of high school. We were just like really great friends
Walked to school the time together like whatever he lived right next door to me like yeah
then like COVID happens like at the end of sophomore year and
Whatever like things with me and him start like
switching
Like bad switching no no no no
Like like switching like he's like
I wonder how it would be to like have my first cast like blah blah blah and mind you like I lost my virginity when I was 15
I was the freshman like yeah, she's been I I was like I've
I've had my first cast yeah, so
Whatever so I was just like oh like
This is low key some couldn't do the say but I was like oh like I can show you
Yeah
Oh my god, mind you this is all over text. Okay. This is not I around. This is not fucking I around
That's so funny. Okay. Anyways, so
whatever also it's like COVID but yeah
so whatever like we meet at this one spot like he was walking his dog and
We kissed and then we made out and then
Whatever nothing else happened after the make out like we kissed and then we made out
and that was
The start of it the start of it like three or four years ago. I took his virginity. I took his first kiss
I was his first everything now his first everything he always
This is the boy who always comes back to me my best friend from home Kylie
She literally is like I think you're gonna get married to him. Is he the one you're in love with no
No, um no I this is gonna sound a little bit weird
But I like view him more as like family but not family
I get that just the I feel like it's the guy like you owe it to yourself to see like
What if like what if I do? Yeah. Yeah, okay?
Yeah, totally understand that but like when I went home like for the summer like when I was back from New York and when I was home
I saw him. Did anything happen? Yeah, we fog or really? Yeah. Yeah, um
But it's just like it's just it comes back in like a rhythm. Like I don't know. It's yeah kind of
It's like routine like back to the routine
Fucking back to the routine and like, you know what fair enough
I'm trying to think if I had one of those don't I don't recommend it because it's like well, it's
It's not bad, but it's like when am I gonna finally break this habit because I've said like we both said like no to each other before
But it's then it's like but then we'll ask again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and then it's just like it's like a cycle. Yeah, and then someone will say yes
Yeah, it's just like that's always how it ends up happening
I know and like when I've had a boyfriend like he obviously like doesn't talk to me and then
Literally, it's like this guy like knows it's like he knows six cents. He knows when I'm in town
He knows when I don't have a boyfriend anymore like he just knows
And I told him that before I'm like
Okay, I was about to say I was like, do you know like how do you know this?
He just has a chip on you
He knows
It knows everything wait. That's so funny. Yeah, I've probably had a couple of those
um back home in Haiti
Oh, nothing of note. They were not rememberable. So that's probably that's probably why I don't remember honestly
like I had a crazy summer in terms of
Like
Oh, I had a summer boy too like
Boys
Mine was a single. No, like it was really like I was concerned for myself at one point. I was like, oh, like your sexual health
No, like just me as a human being like are you dead ass melody?
Like I had to look at myself in the mirror and be like, oh like you need to stop like this is
Not cute like you gotta stop
But like the thing is I'm never like that but like that's my thing. I've always been like a boyfriend girl, you know
until I came to college but
Like I don't know like this this summer was kind of crazy like I hooked up with two guys in one night
Fuck yeah, like and they were like it was like in front
Wait, wait, you had sex in front of me. No, no, okay. Wait. No, no hook up. Okay. Sorry. That's like that's on me
Where's our definition here? Okay. That's on me. That's on me. You need to go back to the definition
That's on me for sure, but it was definitely like intense make out and in front
Yeah, basically in front of the other and like
And like the age gap between me and those people like like younger or older
Way older like okay. I thought you were gonna say younger and I was gonna leave guys like stand by
I'm just gonna sign to Skyler how old this man was
Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, it was crazy and the other guy was two years older than him
What
Fuck
What
I don't understand. Oh, I'm gonna explain to you like after like when we're done recording this because it was
Create like nothing. I was not a victim in this by any means whatsoever. Like I didn't think you were a victim because you were talking about it
Yeah, yeah, because I'm like conscious. I was conscious. Yeah, I'm like I wasn't drunk. So just wanted to put that out there
But no, yeah crazy summer in terms of hooking up
But trying to get out of the hookup culture of it all started talking to this cute guy. Oh my god
Don't I get a cf photo you do get to I'm pretty sure you know him. I'll show you like after yeah, okay
Okay, okay. Yeah, so shout out to him. But
Back to the
Back to the podcast we're like veering like so many different gears, but I love it. It's so much fun. It's so kind of a thought process
I love it. Yes. Okay. So I want to talk about the dangers
that come
with
hookup culture so this is
kind of not trigger warning the kind of like trigger warning
Um, so we have like stds or like unwarranted situations
like
Things where I don't want to say the word because I don't want this to like get taken down
But like where people push themselves on you or whatever. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay. Okay. Well
I'm gonna bring back charlie into this equation because charlie
Hi
Okay
It was my last time hooking up with charlie. Um
In second semester freshman year
Last time hooking up with him
A couple days later. I wake up and I was like something's wrong
Uh-huh. Yeah, so I wake up and I like
I feel something suspicious
And I call my mom
And I was like
Something's wrong. Yeah, I don't know what to do and I kind of like
Explain to her like what's going on and she was like, well, have you been practicing safe sex? And I was like, yes
I have
And she was like, okay. Well, you should probably call your doctor
Um, and so I called my doctor like back in san diego
And they were like, um, yeah, like you need to go to urgent care right now
Oh god, and I was like fuck me like, okay. So now I'm like, holy shit. Like what type of STD do I have?
I was like freaking out and flipping out because I was like
What the hell what the hell also like, I don't know if you guys have been to the urgent care by
Is it time or sin? No the mash general urgent care. It's like you walk through the transportation building and then it's like on the left
Yeah, I've been there way too many times now
um
reason
um, so I go there and mind you like you have to declare why you're there. Yeah, uh-huh. So I'm like
They were like, so what are you in here for and I was like
Um, I don't know a possible STD
Lord like it was just kind of like humbling and embarrassing whatever
So after like a fucking like hour 30 minute wait
Yeah, I go in to see the doctor like a nurse like checks me out and then I like see an actual doctor and she was like, okay
Like let me see. Mm-hmm, and I like
Show her I'm purposely not going in graphic detail. Yeah for everyone's sake. Mm-hmm
Um, and she was like, oh no, that's just like a swollen lymph node
And I was like what that's happened to me. Are you for real? I'm because melody. I was scared. No, I was horrified
I was horrified. I was like, okay, like yeah
Yeah, yep. I literally was I woke up that morning shot my pants and was like
What the fuck? Yeah. No, I've had that in high school. It was horrifying like so scary nightmare
Literally, I was like, what the fuck did charlie just give me? Yeah
I yeah and funny enough. I told him this story and you know, you want to know what he said
What did he say?
This kind of like when he said it I didn't think twice
But now that I now that I thought about it. I was like this kind of suspicious
He was like he was like it wouldn't have been like that bad if you just had like an std like it's not that embarrassing
What?
I was like, huh?
I was he was like, yeah, it could have been fine
And I was like, what if I got AIDS?
Exactly you freak. What do you mean? It wouldn't have been that bad
I just like don't think his head was screwed on straight for that moment because I was like
It wouldn't no one wants to get an std. Exactly. Oh my god. What a freak. I don't like that answer whatsoever
Yeah, but then you know this year I have sex with him again
And oh my god. I have to go to urgent care
Again, you're lying. No being fucking dead ass and you know, you want to know what's worse melody
You want I'm saying your whole name. You want to know what's worse?
My doctor tells me
Skylar you should take a pregnancy test. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
That is the I thought I actually thought about like texting him and being like guess what?
I have to take a pregnancy test. Oh my god. I didn't do that. That would have been evil
But I was like, maybe I want to be evil. Mm-hmm. I didn't do that
But I like I've never had a doctor tell me
You should take a pregnancy test. I literally I was I was going out that night
Oh my god
I'm sorry. I just had to mouth something to her
um, I was going out that night and I was like
It's like I have to take a pregnancy test. Like I could be pregnant. Like oh my god
Like I can't drink alcohol like blah blah blah blah blah. I need to get an abortion like
Like all this stuff was like rummaging through my brain
and then
I wasn't pregnant obviously. Thank god. Literally if I
I don't even want to think about that right now
But and then I have to go to urgent care because they're like, okay, like it could be an std
Like it could also just be like some other stuff
So I was like, okay. Um, so I go to urgent care again. I'm like, hey guys, welcome back
I'm back
No, you're so happy to see me. Um, and of course they have you declare what you're fucking in there for
And last time I could write it on a piece of paper and I was like god bless america and this time I was like
Can I write another piece of paper?
And they were like, no, we don't have any piece of paper. She was like, is it is an original problems?
And I was like, yes
And she was like, don't be embarrassed. Like everyone has those and I was like
No, no, let me be embarrassed. I'm fucking screaming. That's crazy. Um, yeah
So whatever I get in there and I take
Chlamydia, gonorrhea, like all them hose. Yeah stick the swab like up there whole nine
swish it around
Every test comes back negatives. It's it's a different problem. Oh, well, yeah, if I would have fucking had an sd. I mean
Yeah, let's not even know no
I guess my head but
Yeah, but now like every time I've been with charlie. It's like some problem issue is coming out of it
It's like what's up. It's kind of suspicious 100 suspicious. Like that really scares me
Yeah, I'm so sorry, but like I don't know like it's real. Is he like funky down there? No, really?
I
This is something I guess that now everyone will know about me. I don't give heads to people. I rarely give heads to anyone
Wait, we're high fiving. I hate giving head. I think it's the worst thing ever. Well, so it's like
I just I just like I don't want to there's like nothing appealing about it. I don't like it personally
I don't want to do that. Yeah, it's not appealing to me. Yeah
Um, but anyway, so I've never given him head. So I haven't like inspected the fucking area. I guess you would say
Um, but like no, there's nothing
Normal person. Yeah. Yeah, he's clean. I feel like I could smell and yeah, yeah for sure
Um, yeah, wait that really kind of scares me. I'm sorry. No, it's so I'm scared for you, but I mean
You're okay. That's all that matters at the end of the day. You're okay. Thank god. Thank god
I was really worried the pregnancy test got me fucked. Oh 100 I have a story
I don't know if I should tell this I'm like I really don't want my mom to listen to this
I've already my mom is gonna listen to this. She's like, I'm so excited to hear it
I'm so glad. I was like as long as my father doesn't listen to this. I'm completely fine
My dad and my brother like sign off. Please don't like this
But um, I've never had like std scares per se
And like I don't want to call what I had a pregnancy scare because it was just me freaking out
It was yeah, it was the first guy I had sex with right and he was a boyfriend
and
Like but at the time my period was very irregular
So I'd get it consistently and then like it'd be gone for two months and it was that type of situation for my body
and so we have sex and
like
Two months go by no period and I'm like, oh, I would have shot myself. I go. Oh
Funny like I'm about to like
Actually have a panic attack. I'm about to pop a baby
Quite literally and so I was like being very conscious about it. I was like staring at my stomach. I was like, okay
Like is there something in there?
Like what the fuck is going on? That's funny. And so I text him
rookie fucking mistake
Because yeah, worse mistake, but I didn't like do it in a way to scare him
I was just so scared like dealing with this on my own. I was like, hey like gotta tell you something having on my period
and so
He answers he answers like a one word answer and I'm like, huh?
What did he say? I cannot tell you but it was so like passive
But then he doesn't answer for like a good two hours. I'm in I'm in chemistry class at this time, right?
I remember this vividly. I get a phone call from my mom. Oh my god
And I'm like, did you tell her? No. Oh, I get a phone call. I'm like, I'm like, hey, sorry like gotta go outside
I've got to take this
So I take the phone call
yelling
Yelling at me. She's like, what the fuck is wrong with you? You're pregnant, but oh my god
He went told his mom
freaking out to his mom who called my mom and so
This was the most wrong kind of experience. No, and so
I get back home from school
My mom is like on the patio literally almost crying shitting her pants and I'm like, how old were you?
I was this was junior year. Okay. Yeah, so not too bad
No, and um
So I'm there. His mom is there. No
Yeah, his mom is there and I'm just fucking embarrassed. I start sobbing. I'm like, I don't think it's true
Like I'm just scared like I just didn't get my period. That's all and so
Um, they take me to the gynecologist, right? I'm like, I'm okay
It's like a fucking family field trip at this point. I'm like, oh get me the fuck out of here right now
This sounds torturous. It was so torturous. And so I get there and um, this woman is talking to me
I don't even know what to say to her. I'm not answering her
And she was the only one being like super nice to me the other two were like my mom and his mom were like
Not being nice to me like whatsoever. I felt so alone. Yeah, and so she takes me in the back
She takes a pregnancy. No, no, she gives me a pregnancy test and so I go take it by myself and I was like scared
shitless guy like
Just fucking scared little 17 year old me
Squatting down pissing on this stick pregnancy tests are so hard to take. I did it wrong the first time. They're so hard
like I
I think mine was the one you dip it in so that's it was kind of easier. So I pissed in this cup
I pissed in this cup and
I'm waiting the two minutes. I'm like, oh like I'm literally like having the worst day of my life right now like I
Literally I can get hit by a bus. It would not make this day worse
Like it would literally not make this day worse whatsoever. So it comes back negative obviously, right? Yeah, and so I'm like see I told you
Like I'm not pregnant. Like I'm crying. My mom doesn't talk to me the whole way back home
Like she was cold with me for like a week. It was
Literally the most traumatizing experience of my life and this was the same kid who ended up cheating on me and breaking up with me
Oh my god, because the first guy I lost my virginity to cheated on me too. What is the
What's up? I don't get it. Um, I simply don't get it because like fuck you. I hope you're doing
So bad he likes my instagram story sometimes and I'm like, who are you?
Like he just started doing this and he's followed me and he still follows my mother. Anyways, that's so strange. I hate that
It's quite
Peculiar. No, very peculiar. I don't like it. This guy has I think I've spoken about him on this podcast
He's texted me multiple times when I came to Boston
He likes sent me this really long text like when I first moved in he was like, oh like I hope you're settling in nicely into your
Home like shut up like do you want to see his contact name on my phone? Of course I do
I'll read it for you guys too
It's literally this
Bro who fumbled a bag that's and it's not it's not good
It's not changing because it's the truth and fuck you. I hate you so much. Honestly
Like I don't talk about this about like this about any of my exes
Except for him like I don't like him in the slightest honestly
That's respectable and it's not gonna change
Um, this is oh, this is a long episode. How long are we at?
Not this is like at least 30 35 minutes. Oh cute. Yes. Okay. So I want to talk about the connections
That come with hookup culture
so
i.e. Someone you're hooking up with
Has hooked up with someone you know or someone you've hooked up with is friends with someone on your roster, etc
So please, okay. I am take us away. I gotta bring back charlie in this fucking equation
um
so
I'm
bringing back the conversation that I brought up earlier about him only like have been hooking up with like four or five people like at emerson
Come to find out. I'm having dinner with neah
And I talked to her about him and she was like no girl. No, no, no, no. He's lying to your face. He lied to you
Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, she was like no like times up. I like probably like three or four. No, my god
Oh
Yeah, I just had to
Yeah, oh my god. Wait. I'm screaming. Wait. What?
You did yeah, please. Yeah, that's a meme. Yeah, okay. Well, there's a connection for you like last semester when?
um
I want to say march
Okay, sas. That's crazy
It's insane. He's him
No, my god. Yeah, okay
Uh, okay. Okay. Okay. We're eskimo buddies. Hi
Okay
Wait guys, I'm coughing. I have a cold. So sorry
Okay
Please go on though. We have to talk about this after though this
Basically, we hooked up with the same guy. Yeah, but go on
Wow, this is this well, that's that's the connection but
But with him this is not this comment is not directed at you
Um, just keep that in mind
But like nia was like no like he sucked up with like a shit ton of more people like he dead ass by a tear faced
and I was like
I was like, okay fair
I was like that kind of makes sense because like I was when he said that number. I was like no, there's no way. Yeah. Yeah
um, and then like
I had dinner with her. I'm still tripping over the fact that we fucked the same person and me and him didn't have sex
Really?
Mm-hmm. Go for you. Um
Okay
Processing I feel like I boggled your mind so much right now. I'm so sorry. No, no, no, don't don't be sorry
I'm just like I'm thinking I'm processing because like what I'm about to say is like
I've had like I thought about this like a lot
But like after she said that and she said she like dropped some names. I was like
Wow
She obviously didn't drop your name, but yeah, she I was just kind of like wow like
God this this this is really controversial and I don't mean this in any poor or negative regard
Yeah towards anyone, but it's like sometimes guys get with girls that are so much uglier than you
Yeah
And I don't know why but it was just such like a very humbling if you will
It was so humbling because I was texting my friend about it and she was like if they get with us
What do they think of us?
Yeah, that that kind of like threw me through a loop because I was like so you're gonna get with her and then get with me
But it's like but but but but but
One plus one equals two what the fuck is this like no?
Yeah, and I was kind of like
When I first like started really thinking about this I started getting angry at the girl
And I was like and then I was talking to my roommate about it
And she was like skyler like if you're getting angry about this you should be getting angry about the guy. Yeah, yeah
Because it's like it's not the girl's fault at all at all
And it's just like it's like I would have never known you hooked up with this kid
Like never in my life. Yeah
I did that's crazy though
So like he and I like we hooked up like twice. I think like not hook up made out like twice. That's so interesting
Yeah, that's crazy. I still really can't get over that. See that's how much like
He very blatantly lied to me
Which is insane because like there's no reason for him to lie because one you're gonna you're bound to find out and look you did
Well, yeah, but obviously the only like ounce of like pity in this regard that I'll give to him
Is that like I don't know what his definition of hookup is. Okay. Okay, you know
It's like yeah fair like he could have been like because whenever we hook up we'd have sex and that's just that would
Be what it is. Yeah, and so it's like
So it's like maybe he could have thought I was asking like who he had sex with
Yeah, because I'm like maybe that's four or five people
Oh, because like I know for a fact he's made out with
Fucking half the freshman year. Well, not like our
No, and like my vagina is like curling up like as you say that like it's like I'm like getting like
Oh, no, which is it like that's kind of bad on me. I guess I don't think it's bad on you because how would you have known
Because one he lied to you and two like you probably didn't go digging for like oh who did this could make out with
Like that's so not on you. Like no, don't be yourself up over that at all
Well, yeah, I don't know. It's just like that was the biggest thing to me
Is that like I don't really well, this is kind of alive because I do
Care about body count. Yeah in a sense is that like I don't want you like running through the forest
Because then it's like I don't want you running through the forest and not getting scd tested. Yeah, because that's disgusting
But it's also like but just don't lie like I don't really know why he lied about it
That's what confuses me the most because it's like also
Fun fact the first time we hooked up number one. He didn't bring a condom. So
Oh, no, but I had one so it was fine. But um
I remember like
Oh, like right like we were making out and then like like I think he or I pulled away
And I was like, do you do this often and he was like, no, I don't do this often
So yeah, oh, okay. That's a straight up like lying through his teeth to you. Yeah, and I was kind of like
What a way that actually makes me kind of upset
Like it kind of like irks me. Yeah, that's very like irk worthy because
Don't lie like don't we don't have any commitment to one another. Just don't I'm just asking you a question
Tell me the truth. Oh, so he asked it to me first. Like yeah, we were asking about like our emerson stuff and
I'm pretty sure this bitch does not go outside of the emerson walls. Yeah, let's I I don't what wait
Oh my god. The other day the other day
This is her part. No, the other day. Um, I think this was after a party and we were at her face and then Nia and I parted ways
So I go to p-ro and then she goes down to paramount, right?
And she I received a picture from her and it's this kid
Hand in hand the fuck hand in hand literally sky. This was last weekend. Oh my hand in hand with some girl
literally fucking holding hands romantically
Like as if he was walking her somewhere
Which is like I was just what time was this out because he doesn't do any of this shit publicly. No, no, it was so late
I think it was at like 1 a.m. Hold on. I have to show you this picture
Is this someone who goes here?
Like I don't know because the girl was like you couldn't see her face and like I wish there was like a side profile at least
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz like oh, it's on another group chat. Hold on stand by guys
I'm showing sky the craziest like this is this is the craziest connection wait. I'm screaming
I can't I'm okay. I can't I'm not surprised, but I just like
Ugh once you hear about it. It's like what the fuck
Fuck
Literally what in the hell
It's crazy
I don't understand him fuck me. Oh god. This just remind me he asked
I'm gonna spill it right now. He asked me to come to colorado
He asked me to fly there so he could take me to a game
A baseball game. I'm being dead. I'm lying sky. I'm dead ass, bro. He literally no, okay
Sorry, no, he's like I'm pissed. No, okay over the summer. This is when I was home in San Diego
I was still like keeping in contact with him whatever and then he texted me and he was like
He was like if you come to colorado, like I'll take you to a rock a Rockies and Padres game
Stop because he knows that I love baseball. Yeah, I like I'm a whore for baseball. I've seen your Instagram stories. Yes
Like I love my team. Go Padres. Go tell these
Um, but whatever so I was like I was like
Charlie
Are you being for real and he was like, yeah, I'm being for real and I was like no
Like are you being for real because like if you are then I mean like sure like I'm down. Yeah
Because I'm like fuck. Yeah, why not? There's exactly nothing for you to lose like why not?
Like live your life. He's gonna take me to a baseball game. I'd stay with him like it be whatever
And so he literally was like, oh, yeah, like you could stay with me
Like you just have to like fly into like Denver like whatever and I was like, okay, cool
And I was like and then I look at flights and I was like, okay, so like this is like kind of like what's up
And he was like wait really
And I was like, what do you mean wait really did you not ask?
Did I not ask you multiple times if you were being fucking for real?
And then he was like
He was like because I was gonna use like a point like yeah
Yeah, and I was like on like it won't cost me probably like anything
So I'm just gonna use like points in my legend. He was like he was like, oh like you could save your points
And you could save your mileage like this was just like so crazy
And I left him on open and yes as you should because if you had to answer him
I would have smacked you across the face right now. Yeah
Yeah, oh wait wait
But for him to do that and for him to ask me to come to Colorado and for him to fuck me the first like fucking week back at
Emerson and lie to me
I'm about to drop his name, but I'm not gonna do that. Please don't
I'm not gonna do that. But
Just wait get a fucking grip. No, but like you me and Nia need to go out to dinner and
Have this fucking hash it out. We we must we I'm pissed. No, I'm pissed for you. See
This is really upsetting
Well, it's only upsetting now because of everything I've learned. Yeah. Yeah, he really wanted to keep me in the dark
Which is so insane. Which is like why'd you want to keep me in the dark?
Why'd you ask me?
Why'd you tell me that you want to just start dating someone exactly?
Why'd you ask me how many people I fucked at emerson like why?
Why why is the conclusion of this because what the fuck is actually going on?
I'm we I'm fucking screaming Skyler. I really can't
And like I'm glad to have revealed so much to you like I'm glad
I'm gonna show you all the pictures of my guys afterwards. Oh my god. No
Oh, yeah, I want to see all the pictures. Yeah, this is crazy. I'm shitting myself
like I
I don't even know where to move on from here. This is crazy
I really want to drop his name
And like I would love for you too, but but I can't do that. They would actually kill me because like
yeah
Some of his friends are like close to my friends. So like
But can for the friends who probably listen to this uh-huh fucking make him get a grip. Okay
I think there's a couple of screws loose inside his head a couple. No for sure. I'm gonna tell you a story
after this he's
such a weird character
Very strange if you ask me
Yeah
No, but my problem is he's such a gorgeous kid. Well, he's also like just like super nice
He's very sweet super cute. But then you go on to act like this. That's what gets me kind of
Like I don't know it's like he's like his brain is like the world of delusion. Oh 100%
So it just like doesn't not disagreeing with you there makes sense
Like I don't even know what to say. This is very scary, but um, I should have said no to him
No, it's okay. Please don't like don't it happen. Yeah, it happened and I'm done that chapter is closed
Okay. Yay. I'm glad
But um, do you have anything else in your google doc before we play a little game before closing out?
That you want to say
Hmm
I don't think so
That's awesome. Yeah, I feel like we covered so much. Yeah
I really I really do I think we did too. Oh, I'm so happy. So we're gonna play like a short little game
Okay, and then we're gonna close off. So we're gonna be naming like giving each other celebs and deciding whether or not
We'd hook up with them and whether that hookup would be good
Okay, uh-huh. Uh-huh. So I have one for you and I'm very excited about it p. Davidson
Would I hook up with him?
No
Oh
I wouldn't I'd be so decontized by p. Davidson. Really? I feel like I feel like in the right situation
Like I would uh-huh. Okay fair enough. I agree with that
I feel like
No, like on a normal day. No like on a normal day like no
Because I just like I don't find him attractive attractive. And you know what that's so fair
I don't know why I find him attractive. Like I don't know why I don't know what it is but like
He could for sure get it like
Sorry, he does get it
He does and he is the charlie of this story. You know what he is and I bet he doesn't lie to people like I
Well, probably not probably not
So that's a yes for me. No from sky. So yeah, give me someone. Okay germiel and white
100 and I know that hookup would be so good. Oh my god, he would make you finish five times five times
Yeah, he's a yes for me. He wouldn't even take a break. No, he wouldn't. No, he would simply focus on you and do it
Ugh, I don't even want to talk about this because like I know he's so good like I can't
Um, he just like he seems like the person who aims to please 100 percent. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, um
I I said drake last time. I don't want to say drake again. Okay, but
But you know what let's do drake no no no, I agree. No, it would be so bad
He'd be focusing on himself only. He wouldn't be paying attention
He'd stick it in and pull it back out. Ew. Ew. Ew. Yeah
That's what I can't take that man seriously. I just I just I get like a reeking suspicion
It would just be like absolutely terrible horrible. Just like it just like wouldn't be
Good enjoyable. Yeah, no at all by any means like even though he has like obviously good like musical rhythm
There would be no rhythm no rhythm and I feel like he radiates small dick energy like I'm so sorry drake
That's so funny. He's one of my favorite artists forever, but like
Like yeah, I don't know drake like we need to work on that but
I have
Travis Kelsey
Oh my god. Hell yes. I don't know why I've been seeing him everywhere. I'm everywhere
My whole okay, I don't have tiktok. Uh-huh
So my whole instagram reels is filled of him and taylor swived and the more I see him the more I'm like
Yeah, so sexy. He's so attractive and he has such a good confidence and ego
Like not to the point where you're like, oh my god, this is suffocating. Yeah. Yeah, but to the point where it's like you make it hot
Like you're hot. You're so attractive
He's so sexy and he's so good with kids like his brother's kids. He's of course he is
Wow Travis calls. He hit my line like
No, but I want him and taylor's life to get together. I want them to marry. No, I need that. Yeah
If they can marry I could forget about every bad doing that happened to me
So cute. They're so did you see them like leaving the game together in his convertible?
Yes, I did. They look so cute. Like I do hear how they were like super touchy like at the bar. Oh my god
Like I want to die. I happen so bad. Yeah, I needed to get serious
Yes, your turn. Give me a white person. Well, this is kind of an obvious one, but like Mike will be Jordan
Hot take for me. No, what?
What hot take hot take that's a fucking hot take
It's like I've gotten to fights with people over this
I wouldn't fight you over this. Okay good. No, that's aggressive. Like I don't know. I feel like
Huh, I feel like he's my p. Davidson for you. You know, so I feel like under the right circumstance
Two drinks in a little tipsy and I see him across the bar for sure
Yeah, like on a regular day would I go for him? No, no
No, I would completely and you know what that's fair. I'm not agreed to disagree. I'm not gonna fight with you
Yeah, like he's an attractive guy for sure. He's gorgeous
He really is
Yeah, good for him
But I'm gonna give you one more person and then we can close out. Okay. Okay, but I want it to be a good one
like
Like I don't have anyone fuck
um
Um
Zane hijaz no. Oh my god. Ew. What zane malik?
I don't know why isn't the guy from one direction direction the sexy one
No, it's okay. The one who dated gg hadid
Oh
No
Really? I can't be honest. I don't think he's that attractive. Really?
No, no, that's fair enough. I think he's super. I think
Like in his when he was still making music era so sexy
So so so sexy, but I feel like the british accent would really turn me off
Like it would really turn me off her face right now. She's not into it
He's just not attractive. I mean fair enough. I just feel like the british accent is what really sends me like I don't
The other direction
Like sends you like sends me the other direction for sure. I I wouldn't be into it like at all. I don't
Okay, don't piss me off right now. That's not a good picture. Okay, that's not a good picture at all
But yeah guys that was our little game, but I just want to thank sky so much for being here. I had a
Blast being so messy with you recording this episode. This is probably my favorite episode right now
I love it. I can't wait to listen to it honestly
And do you have any advice for anyone who's partaking in hookup culture? Don't get with charlie
And yeah, just don't I second that for sure. No, but on a real note
So
Just love yourself at the end of the day
You know it's so true
And only get with people who will put in the right energy for you. So true. So true. I
wholeheartedly agree with that and
Yeah, guys, that's all we have for you today on for the hookup culture episode four of more of mel
And we'll see you next time. Love you guys so much