I mean that all the way back to elementary school.
I mean, so I've always been a kid that asks questions
like why does this happen or why do you do that?
Or how can I figure this out?
Sometimes it was about me,
but sometimes it was about the other person.
I've been extremely empathetic most of my life too.
So when I would see some.
All right, welcome in to Vision Pros Live.
But Jackson Callum, I'm your show host.
We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs
and guests, guest leaders who are building
fantastic visions out there.
Ultimately, I just wanna go through some of the things
that might help you with your vision.
If you have a vision that you're pursuing,
drop a link in the comments and let us know what that is.
If that's a business or a brand,
if it's a nonprofit that you run,
be happy to promote it, be happy to talk to you about it.
And if you'd like to apply to be on Vision Pros
and be interviewed about that vision,
by all means, feel free to reach out.
Hey, hey, hey, what's up everybody?
Happy Wednesday.
I'm your show host Jackson Callum, founder of Passion Pro,
CEO of First Class Business, CEO of Podbooker,
co-founder of Able Health.
Welcome in.
I wanna mention today our sponsors Epiphany
and Able Health as well as in addition to the cause
that we support the Water Project.
I recommend checking out all three of those.
Yesterday we had in our show, Lucy Deloach.
She's absolutely awesome.
She empowers women.
And we also had a secret show that's not posted yet
with Sean Malone, the founder of Flow Chat.
I highly recommend checking out both those
as well, there's a lot of value.
We're gonna be bringing Sean back on later again.
One of the things that we did in that show
is we surprised Sean that we're actually going to be
investing in Flow Chat as well and using that tool.
So we're working on the package right now,
which package we're gonna go with.
We're planning out how we're going to implement it.
I mentioned that for all you entrepreneurs out there
who are constantly looking at what shiny objects
exist in the market.
What tools should I be using?
Which ones are gonna be most effective for me?
And as a young entrepreneur, I used to just kind of like
go into things like that and try to do it all myself
and figure it out.
There should be a method to the madness, right?
Rather than just buying a tool and hoping and praying
that that works, making sure you research it.
So I've got several team members who are looking at,
okay, how are we gonna dynamically utilize this tool
as we implement it?
Well, I'm gonna skip past that.
So if you have interests, I would definitely look
at Flow Chat and start studying out and seeing,
okay, what are their case studies look like?
What do they do?
How does it overlap with what we're doing
over at First Class Business?
We have a lot of different tools that we utilize
like that, for instance, when you're seeing me on now,
this is called StreamYard, StreamYard.com.
That's how we stream this to Facebook, LinkedIn,
and YouTube, and also host our guests on this show.
Now today's show is going to be about Passion Pro
and passionpro.org specifically.
Feel free to go check it out.
Super happy that my team got this launched
at the beginning of this year.
It was like a gift from them to me.
It's something that I've tried to launch for more,
it's probably between six to eight years.
I've had this vision of creating this course.
Originally, the Passion Pro Challenge
was going to be an email series.
And before that, it was just an assessment
that I would give to people that I knew one day
I would tie into a more long-term challenge.
And if you go to passionpro.org and you opt in,
it's absolutely free and it's always going to be free
in its online format.
It's super important to me.
I want that to reach as many people in the world
as possible.
We'll talk more about that later too.
So Passion Pro and diving into that.
Let's go ahead and pull up the first question here,
rather the first statement.
So Passion Pros in one sentence.
As you can see on my screen,
it's all about discovering your passions
and finding a life of purpose and fulfillment, okay?
Now this does not mean a sunshine and roses life.
That's not what this is about.
I want to be clear about what it is and what it's not.
Some people think that living a life of purpose,
a life of fulfillment or life of passion
is all about being happy at all times.
I can tell you right now,
if you're seeking your own happiness,
you're probably gonna end up with a life of bitterness
and regret eventually.
That's not what it's about.
It's also not about a life of pure fun and nothing else.
If you want that again, there's lots of places
you can go to start down that road of vices,
but that's not again what Passion Pro is about.
Passion Pro is about discovering your purpose,
discovering what you want to live for.
Now, I'm hoping that some other people
will come into this later, not hear that part
and say, you know what,
I'll just give this Passion's assessment a try
and hear about it because one cannot be compelled
to discover their passions or their purpose.
They've got to feel it within themselves.
They've got to want to find it.
They've got to feel inspired to find it,
but they can't be pushed to do it.
It's just something that comes from within, in my opinion.
So one of the things that you might be asking is,
well, how does Passion Pro add value to entrepreneurship?
Well, when we onboard our clients,
we do a series of research and development with them
that I've never seen any of their marketing
or consulting agency do.
First, we start with the strategy of the marketing
because that's usually what they want to see.
And we try to get that done as fast as possible.
We try to inspire entrepreneurs to finish that series
of assessments for marketing within one to two hours,
if possible.
Sometimes it's a little bit too hard for them
to do it that fast and where they're walking them through it.
Second thing we do is what's called
a business preliminary evaluation.
And in that evaluation, we're actually looking at their life.
We're looking at the life of their team members.
If they have team members,
we're looking at their scripts, their procedures.
There's a whole lot of information
that we're going into on that specific form.
And we try to get them to, again,
finish that within one hour of work.
Then from there, they get a couple
of communication systems set up.
And after that, they go into what's called
a taste of passion pro.
And we're planting the seed and getting them into
the assessment, are you ready to pursue your passions?
So why do we do this?
We do this because as we serve our business owners,
we want to make sure that we're building the right vision,
the right clarity, the right purpose for both their business
and their lifestyle.
And if you steamroll past that and you make assumptions
that people are on the same page with you, guess what?
They're never on the same page with you.
What is important to you is not always important to me.
What is important to me is not always important to you
or to my audience.
So we do those assessments to make sure that, okay,
this visionary that we're building with,
we want to know them really well.
And what's really cool is most people
who take the passions assessment end up discovering
things about themselves that they've never known before.
And we'll be talking about a testimony
a little bit later on about it.
But I've had a couple of clients go through it this week
that have come back and said, Jackson,
I knew who I wanted to serve,
but now I know who I want to serve.
And it's really interesting to go from realizing like,
okay, I had a lot of clarity in my vision.
I took this simple assessment
that not some Stanford grad created,
not some Harvard University professor,
I created it with my experience through my time in Uruguay,
my time growing up, talking to different types of people
and just my intuition of thousands of conversations,
deep level conversations with people.
So let me take these off real quick
so we don't have the glare as much anymore.
So let's go past this entrepreneurship topic
and talk about the vision for Passion Pro
because it goes beyond the entrepreneur too.
In fact, it's so important that if you're an entrepreneur
and you go through this process,
that you do your best to invite with inspiration
your loved ones to take this as well.
Why? Because it's very hard for loved ones
to support an entrepreneur
because entrepreneurs are kind of crazy.
Like we have ideas that don't make a lot of sense
to other people.
And so when they don't understand that,
when they don't understand you and your motives
and why you're doing things,
it can be very hard to support what you do.
However, if you give your loved ones the opportunity
to take their own passions assessment,
figure out what their passions are,
and you can agree to support them on what their passions are,
it can create a sense of harmony and purpose
where you both at least understand
what you both want out of life.
It's a completely new shift.
It's a new dynamic of how to live by the way
once you do start looking at passions,
your purpose, your priorities change
once you're living a life of passion.
And again, that can be uprooting.
It can be a little bit scary.
So what is the vision?
When I created Passion Pro,
the vision was to help teenagers figure out
what their passions were.
And most people that I know condescend to their teenagers.
They don't like the choices their teenagers are making.
And I don't think that's very fair.
I don't think it helps teenagers figure out
how to get out of whatever it is that mom or dad
or their friends, family, teachers
are not disgusted with,
but kind of like not inspired by
and make fun of or condescend to the teenager.
I do something that's healthy.
And so when a teenager tells me,
I say, hey, what are you passionate about?
A lot of teenage boys, for instance,
will say something like pizza and video games.
That's what I love about life.
And most people would roll their eyes
or laugh at them, make them feel bad.
Well, they need a safe space to be able to,
because they're actually telling you the truth
when they say that.
They just haven't had a chance
to think through this before, perhaps.
And so it's very important as adults
that we learn to meet people where they're at.
We respect where they're at.
So again, I started doing these questions with people,
things like, okay, let's pretend you had $100 million.
If you had $100 million, what would you do with it?
What would you do?
What would you go and do?
Right?
And so this process has all built into this assessment,
by the way, I'm gonna cheat sheet
and give you some examples behind the scenes
of Passion Fruit and How It Works.
So they tell, you know, they travel the world,
party, I would do this or that, whatever,
however safe they are, is however well
they'll answer that question, right?
So now we go to the next question.
So there's one to two years.
You know, you've been doing this now,
you're kind of bored with those activities
and what you've done,
but you still have $90 million left over.
Now what?
Now what are you gonna do with your time?
Right?
And they might think of a few more things.
You know, okay, you've done all that.
You've bought all those things.
You put money away and savings and all that.
You get some smart answers from these kids.
I mean, okay, you still have the 90 million almost.
You still have, you know, 85 million,
let's say you have 80 million, right?
Way more money than you're ever gonna be able
to do anything with.
Now what are you gonna do with your time?
Right?
And it gets to this point where they start thinking, you know,
I guess I'd start helping, you know,
I'd start helping with X, Y or Z.
People gravitate towards different levels
of what they would wanna help in in life.
And usually what I've heard people say is,
I wanna help people who are victims of abuse,
or I wanna help people who, you know,
don't have food or who don't have water,
or I wanna help the poor.
There's certainly, and I wanna help animals, you know,
and create animal shelters.
Those are the top five things that I hear from people
on a consistent basis.
And then we shift the gears to talk about
what can you do today to start doing that?
But we also ask the question along the way,
what do you want to be remembered for?
And I hope you're writing that down.
If you heard me say that, I hope you write that down.
What do you want to be remembered for?
That question, it doesn't matter what anybody else says.
To me, the only person that matters to is you
and your Supreme Being, whoever that may be,
for me that's God.
It matters to me, what do I wanna be remembered for
between me and him?
And that's exactly what I focus on in my life.
So the vision for Passion Pro started
with that process of realizing I can help
unlock teenagers with this.
And then I started to give this assessment
to adults as well and let them kind of play with it.
And I wanted feedback from them.
And next thing you know, I see adults starting to have,
you know, some pretty dramatic discoveries with this.
I had one lady who started to take it.
I went back, I met with her the next week
and she goes, she literally says, Jackson,
I was in your assessment for an hour and a half.
I mean, it's like a 30 minute assessment,
it's not that long.
She said, and she started crying, you know,
tearing up right there in public
and she said, I couldn't finish it.
And I said, why not?
You know, I'm worried like the technology
didn't work or something.
And she goes, I didn't wanna know the answers.
And I was, you know, I didn't react in front of her.
I was like, oh, you know, and I could see her.
I could see in her eyes regret.
I could see, I get, I was like, so clear to me
that here she was thinking back on her life,
what she missed out on.
She was probably in her fifties, you know,
maybe close to 60.
And I think she felt a combination of regret
with where her life was at and to trapped.
Very, very successful woman.
I mean, she's doing some really cool things
in businesses in San Antonio from a worldly perspective.
But I believe she got in there,
started looking at the questions about weaknesses
and strengths and what she'd wanna do.
And I don't think she felt comfortable with the reality
that she did not know how to get out
of the current situation her life had built herself around.
So she actually walked away from the assessment
and couldn't finish it.
Super valuable feedback.
I'm glad she gave that to me and helped me realize
that this is not for everybody.
You know, this is a conscious decision
that can be a very difficult process.
But it can also be the most freeing process in the world.
Just because something is difficult doesn't mean
that you shouldn't pursue it.
In fact, most things that generate good for us
are difficult, whether it's eating your vegetables,
exercising, you know, reading and learning.
All those things are hard activities
and they're meant to help you progress in life.
So sometimes we wanna pursue what is most hard.
Now, I went ahead and gave this same assessment
to a sales team.
And this particular sales team
was not your cream of the crop sales team.
And some of them had such bad attitudes about life.
You know, they're feeling that life sucks,
that they didn't have the capacity
to really put their heart and soul into this assessment.
In other words, they weren't willing
to be honest with themselves.
They just kind of went through the motions, right?
And said, oh, well, I would spend it on this.
I mean, oh, yeah, no, I just, what are my strengths?
Everything, what are my weaknesses?
Nothing, you know, or vice versa.
You know, condescending to themselves,
not being in a place where they're really willing
to self assess who they are.
If you're at that stage right now,
I'm telling you right now,
passions pros, are you ready to pursue your passions assessment?
It's not gonna do anything for you.
It can't, because you're not willing
to do anything for yourself.
You have to be willing to get out of your comfort zone
and actually take this assessment,
thinking through the questions, feeling through the questions.
And unfortunately, you are the one person
who has to unlock that.
And if you're at a point where that seems scary,
then I highly recommend counseling
as a mechanism to support you through the process.
You probably need a community of support.
Some of you listening to this may not have that community,
but you may be diving into podcasts, episodes like this,
in order to find exactly what I'm talking about.
Just make sure you have a community to support you
as you strive to make the transition.
Because if you're part of an existing community
that does not know how to support you,
or is not into what people call the fru fru stuff,
and all the touchy feely things,
that community is going to probably trash you
for trying to go this route
and trying to make improvements to your life.
So again, be wise, try to be as wise as you can
with sharing this experience and what you do with it
with people who love you truly
and who support you on your progress towards your passions.
So with that said, there's somebody who took this quiz,
this passions assessment that absolutely blew my mind.
And this goes back to again,
what is the vision of Prashenpro
and the value that it'll add to entrepreneurs
and to anybody else.
So I met a lady who had written a book.
The book actually was quite successful.
She was living in Mexico.
She was a valedictorian of her high school in the US.
She had served a mission for a church.
She had gotten her degree in international studies,
international relations, I believe it was,
near the top of her class at a private university.
There's so many things about her
that everything that she was married, she had kids.
She was a copywriter for a very well-known
financial organization.
And I asked her to take the passions assessment.
I had no idea what would happen.
I was actually, I think I was looking for her feedback.
I don't even remember why I asked her to do it
other than just mutually sharing projects or something.
So she takes this assessment
and I was blown away by her claims after.
Afterward, she's like, Jackson,
I know exactly what I wanna do with my life.
I wanna launch a business like this.
I wanna do an NPO.
I wanna launch a nonprofit that's named this.
I wanna do this and this.
And I'm sitting there going,
this wasn't supposed to work for somebody like you.
Like, you're here compared to me in life.
Like, she seems way set on all the things.
She's like a superhero to me and it's unlocked her.
I'm like, wow, this assessment is powerful.
So without further ado, we're going to put a video on
of Ashley of the tail publishing.com.
She took this assessment more than six years ago
and she retook it recently
and she just produced a video for me
and for you guys to show you the power
that the passion pro assessment can have on your life.
So, Emmanuel, if you can pull that up.
Will this an Ashley review?
I am so grateful for passion pros
and for the passion's assessment.
I met Jackson many years ago
and he had just developed the assessment
and asked me to take it and see how it helped.
And I had wanted to start a business, start a blog,
start do something to share these amazing stories
that I had discovered
and this passion that I had found
and this desire to share other stories
through my own words and through other people's words,
whether that was writing it myself
or helping to edit somebody else's book.
There were so many stories that I could see
and wanted to share and shed light on
and share with the world
so that people could know about them
and I felt passionate about that
and I'd been working towards that goal for four or five years
and I was gaining a lot of skills to be able to do that
and I had the vision,
but it wasn't until I took Jackson's assessment
that I realized like all the pieces fell into place
and with his help as well,
I could see how to take all those pieces
and turn it into a business
and that's when Dateo Publishing really became an entity
and not just this thing that I was doing
or the skills I was developing
or whatever it might be,
it became a real living, breathing business
and that business enabled me to pursue my passion
and to employ other people,
which I feel very passionate about that
just in and of itself
and create a business, create results for my clients,
create value and abundance
and all these wonderful things
and then recently I retook the passions assessment
so six years later
and it was very interesting to compare my results
and to look at what passions had remained the same
and really there was a lot that was the same,
but as I've built out that passion
and was able to pursue it,
I was able to add more to it
and to discover a greater depth with those passions
and that now that I've created a system and a business
that allows me to pursue that,
I can then go one step further
and then another and then another
to really turn those dreams into a reality
and so I love how we can really sit down
and think about what is it that drives me?
What am I passionate about?
I think that too few of us
take the time to think about that
and we can fall into this cycle
or this trap of just living through the motions
and not pursuing our passions
and living a life of purpose
and so I love what Jackson's doing with Passion Pros.
I love what he's doing with the assessment
as part of Passion Pros
and how it makes you sit down
and really think about what you want
and then not just identify it, but then go after it
and he has all the tools to help you do that
to turn your passions into something real and tangible
that you can pursue and obtain.
Oh man, I loved, I absolutely loved hearing that from her.
What a blessing it was to get such a valuable,
deep testimony about what Ashley's gotten out of this
and so when I think of Passion Pro,
I think of the fun events that we're gonna be able
to do with this too and they are gonna be fun.
When we talked about vision of Passion Pro,
one of the things that I wanna make sure
that happens over the coming years with this
is that we ultimately create a very similar event
to South by Southwest, but here in San Antonio
where I live because I know that that would unlock
and unleash the power for everybody
to understand the value of what it is
and what it's capable of, what it, the extent.
There's no box around Passion Pro.
Notice across the bottom there,
I talk about mother and father being equally important
roles or job titles as CEO and society.
Many could argue if they want to argue
that mother and father are titles and responsibilities
that are even more important
than being a chief executive officer in a company.
That's fine, you guys can argue.
Life is great, to me, each of those are important
and what's important to you may be different
than what's important to somebody else,
but what I do know is that in society,
people who are a stay-at-home parent
or a full-time parent and do not work
or contribute to society, right?
There's that conversation, like that already.
That is a massive condescension and disrespect
to the people who hold the titles of mother and father
and focus their full time on raising the citizens
in their own household, which is one of the greatest
and one of the most difficult callings that there is.
So when it comes to Passion Pro,
one of the other purposes of it is to help make sure
that moms and dads are certified, so to speak,
receive some type of validation in life
for what it is that they do,
because their contribution is often looked down upon,
they're not appreciated, and I don't see
too many other entities coming out with awards
or ways to certify and help those people
feel as powerful as they are.
Now, maybe they don't need it, but some people do need
and want that, some people really love the idea
of being recognized for what they do,
and so I wanna create an entity where we've got the ability
to start doing that at scale.
So when it comes to Passion Pro online,
like why am I going to do this for free?
And how is that gonna be possible?
Well, for one, we're doing it for free
because it's the right thing to do.
Everybody deserves the right to be able
to pursue their passions.
That's just my personal belief,
and I wanna be able to empower as many people
as possible to do that, and you do that
through free accounts.
Now, some would argue, well, people don't value what's free.
That's bull crap.
I know that because I lived in Uruguay,
and I watched people who were starving
and who didn't have water and who didn't have their means,
and if you gave them something for free, man,
they showed up, and they went all out for it,
and they were very grateful for that.
So that's just a salesperson manipulating you,
the sales tactics, by the way, if somebody says that.
But why is it gonna be free,
and how do we make sure to build an event
such as South by Southwest?
Well, that comes through sponsorships.
That comes through making sure that we put ourselves
in a position to where people want to sponsor our events,
and how do you do that?
Just for the kicks and giggles
and for the entrepreneurs out there,
eyes and attention, right?
TikTok, Facebook, these big platforms,
the reason why they're able to get people to advertise
and be sponsors of their programs is because they have
so much eyes and attention on what's going on.
So as we build out Passion Pro,
and we make it cooler and more fun,
and we move from the wonderful FruFru stuff
that exists on my side to also building things
around the musicians that are gonna be involved with it,
around the programs that are for artists,
the programs for all sorts of different passion and niches,
that's gonna gain more and more attention.
It's gonna snowball and have a momentum effect
hit at some point where people can then go and,
sorry, I saw a little message,
a kind of message from Ashley during the middle of this
that was a little bit ironic.
It was about business stuff though,
not that she was saying something about her video.
Anyway, so as that grows,
that's going to create more attention,
that attention is going to drive more reason
for people to want to sponsor this program.
And at any point in time,
anybody can of course sponsor this.
We certainly need the funding in order to scale
to the levels that we wanna scale.
We wanna have global impact with this process.
I do believe strongly that if more people
were inspired to stop pursuing careers
based on financial gains solely,
and based on what others want them to do
and who they want them to be,
then we would have a society that was a lot happier.
And by having a society that's a lot happier,
we would then have, and that's more purpose driven, right?
People who are going out there and pursuing their passions
in a way that benefits others
in a way that they want to be remembered for,
now you've got positive effect taking place
in communities as well.
And as positive effect takes place within a community,
all of a sudden the tribe,
the community tribe itself starts to feel uplifted
and starts to see the world in a new light.
And so in order to create a tidal wave of effect like that,
you've got to have momentum on your side.
Otherwise it's a little bit of an uphill battle,
which is fine too.
I'm also ready to do that as inspired by movies
like Remember the Titans.
If you haven't seen Remember the Titans
or you haven't seen it in a long time,
the football coach in that movie
is dealing with a football team
in the middle of the civil rights movement.
He becomes the head coach.
He's a black man who becomes the head coach
of the football team and they're trying to fire him
from day one.
And so he's got nothing but external negative pressures
coming at him and his ability to lead his community
by leading the football players
and getting their buy-in first, which was not easy,
leads to a movement that ultimately changed
an entire town within a matter of,
I don't know, six months or so.
Maybe it's the whole year.
And it didn't change everybody,
but the majority started to shift and change.
I do believe in being able to make those types of impacts.
I do believe that all of us,
if we dig within ourselves,
have the capability of doing such.
So let's see here.
We've got a question from Jaime who says,
will there be a Spanish version?
I'd love to share with my family.
Well, let me ask Jaime some of my Spanish-speaking teammates.
Jaime, you're one of them.
When will we have the Spanish version ready?
I'm on well.
When will we have the Spanish version ready?
And I'm just kidding, I'm just teasing you guys.
We can start chipping away at that.
And it goes back to that old saying,
how do you eat an elephant?
One bite at a time.
That's how we do it.
And at the same time,
if you've got lots of people
that are able to eat the elephant with you,
then it can be tackled a lot faster.
So we've got our community,
over to the beginning of that,
that's opportunities for work for Latinos on Facebook.
That's another free project that we run.
It's free job training for Latinos
and free interview process.
We teach them about how to find work online
the whole nine years.
Absolutely amazing.
It's part of Passion Pro, so to speak.
And there's opportunities in that community
to probably step up and help us translate
some of these materials
that can be such a blessing to others.
Now, I don't expect anybody to do that,
but I'm also inspired and grateful
for those who are willing to keep in mind,
I mean, I've been building Passion Pro for free
for the last eight years.
I'm not trying to inspire free labor.
I'm trying to inspire people to realize
when you've got a value that you know,
that you're called to bring to the world
and you wanna put your hat for service on, put it on.
You like make it happen.
If you feel this is that valuable, then go for it.
And if not, that's okay too.
I'll continue to build it out.
But as far as the Spanish version of it,
yeah, I mean, I have a feeling my team
is gonna pull that together faster than I am.
What I know I need to be focused on is
all the people who come through Passion Pro
in the here and now for what it is.
One, we already know there's several things
that need to be adjusted in the existing challenge.
You know, it's not perfect.
It's not something that I'm ready to put
on Oprah Winfrey Show.
It's not something that I'm ready to have millions
of people come into.
I'm looking for the alpha level users,
the beta level users, the preliminary people
who are gonna come in, appreciate the value
for what it is, benefit from it,
and give us sincere feedback about what would you do
to adjust the Passion Pro so that everybody
who comes after you has an even better experience.
I know one thing right now, the content is very heavy
in terms of how much you need to read.
A lot of that content would be in better format as a video
or at least a supplementary video
with the content still there for those
who do like to skim and read like myself.
But also a lot of it can be content that is design, right?
And it showcases more visually what it is I'm trying
to articulate on that particular challenge.
We also want to make sure that we're building out
the community and again, inspiring more and more feedback
from people in order to build it out better.
Those preliminary users become our greatest resource
to mold and transform it.
Some of them I wouldn't be surprised to see step up
and join our organization as perhaps a paid for team member
at some point.
And we're not at that stage with passionpro.org yet.
This is not a money grab opportunity for people.
This is about giving back.
It's about making sure that we empower others
to pursue their purpose.
And as we, again, as we take off with our other business
ventures, all of that provides the fuel we need
to propel our vehicle of Passion Pro forward
and really make the difference in the impact
that we want to make in the lives of those around us
and those waiting for it.
So let me go back to some of these things
Let me go back to some of these questions
that the team came up with.
Again, what should you consider before taking
the Passion Pro challenge?
I'm gonna go back to it.
I can't say this enough.
You've got to be willing to be self aware.
You've got to want it.
Taking any type of assessment in life,
if you don't really put yourself into it,
you're not gonna get anything out of it.
You have to be willing to put yourself in it.
It's gonna ask you about your strengths.
You got to be honest about those.
It's gonna ask you about your weaknesses.
What are those?
You've got to be honest with yourself about those.
If you're hiding your weaknesses,
then you're not gonna be able to be your true authentic self
and get the type of support that you need
from yourself and from others by ignoring the fact
that you may have things that you need help with
from others, I think we all do.
So vision and versus passion, how are these related?
Great question, guys.
In fact, I'm actually gonna put Amonwell on the spot.
I think he came up with this.
So I'm gonna have him come in and talk to me.
Yeah, he's going, no, no.
Yeah, you're gonna come out here with me.
I'll start on my side of Amonwell to help,
but I definitely want you on
and I want you to take what I say and add to it.
Because once I talk about my side of it,
it's probably gonna inspire you to consider a new angle
as well as others who are listening.
So if you're listening, feel free to help me define this.
For me, passions can exist without vision.
And I've learned in my life that can be very dangerous.
When I'm passionate about somebody else's project
or I'm passionate about something else in life,
that doesn't bring me value,
it can distract me from figuring out
what my values actually are.
In fact, a lot of people,
I would say most alcoholics have found a passion.
They found a passion for alcohol.
And that is unfortunately really hurting them
in terms of their purpose and their life
with their friends and family.
I've seen that with my dad,
I've seen that with lots of family members.
On the flip side, vision can also be something
that is not great if you have the wrong vision,
so to speak, if you're going for visions
based on others' needs.
So you gotta make sure that you have your vision to find
and you gotta figure out your healthy passions as well.
But when you combine the two, right,
when you have a clear vision
for what it is that you want out of life, right?
And you know that that vision,
like you can tell, you can feel it in your heart and your mind
if it's something that is good
or if it's something that makes you feel bad about others,
then go for the vision that feels good.
And then, if it's a vision that really inspires you,
you're gonna feel it in your heart.
You're gonna wanna follow it.
And that passion, it can increase and grow at time.
Don't get me wrong, I didn't always want to be,
I didn't know I was gonna launch first-class business.
I didn't know I was gonna launch passion pros.
I knew I was gonna do something, all right?
And I figured it would come
after my professional sports career, all right?
That's what I really wanted.
And I remember in high school,
I came up with this idea of a company called Heck Yes Moo.
And it was an inside joke with a friend, Heck Yes,
methods of operations.
I don't even know how I discovered that term in high school
or how I realized that was gonna be important.
But I figured I'm pretty well organized.
I'll probably help businesses with this.
It was either right in high school or right after.
I don't remember which, but it was somewhere along there
where I realized that, no,
I didn't launch that company or that brand.
But it was part of the process
of figuring out my foggy vision, right?
And your vision may start foggy,
but as you continue to drive along the path,
eventually you'll get out of the fog.
And usually that will lead you to pivot a little bit
here or there, which is why I've also had a company
in the past called Pivot Point.
So Amanoel, without further ado, man, come on out here.
And let's hear you talk about how, from your side,
what would you add about vision and passion being related?
Hey, good afternoon.
Thanks for putting the shirt on, by the way.
I'm just kidding.
No, it's okay.
Well, talking about vision and passion,
it's really important, Jackson,
because those are two important concepts, right?
Those are like different,
but they are completely related
because from my perspective, vision is a long-term goal,
right?
And passion, in the other hand, is an emotional
and or a feeling that motivates you to do something.
So when you're starting a business, for example,
when you have goals cleared, you have your vision, right?
But you need something to motivate it to go
and be able to do that.
And that's when the passion start working on.
So that's why both are really important
and they are related for me.
Dude, I love that.
I'm really glad I made you come out here.
We're inspired you to.
You're like, no, don't do it.
But here you go, throwing down an even clearer version
of vision versus passion than myself.
And so I'm grateful that you brought that up.
And yes, the motivation factor can be difficult for people.
Some of the remedies for that.
So if you've got a vision
or you got passions that you may wanna pursue again,
I highly recommend, if you can pull it up on the screen,
Amanwal, passionpro.org, so people can see
how simple and easy it is to sign up,
then we'd love to have you come through that process.
And you'll have the ability to go through that.
Then we've got a community on Facebook.
And our community, while it does have a few hundred people
in there, I'm not gonna lie to you,
we don't have that super active right now.
And what creates an active community?
Active leaders, right?
People who come in and wanna participate
and who's a leader?
Anybody who wants to step up and said community.
And can you find other passion communities
that are out there?
Absolutely.
And do we recommend it?
Absolutely.
The more the merrier.
There's opportunities to pull communities together
for tribes to grow within tribes
or nations to come together
and form a new nation, so to speak.
We don't have any fear or doubts
or desires to suppress that type of growth.
We want to see that happen.
There's eight billion people in this world.
That's a lot of people,
most of whom need help with the basics of life,
let alone finding their passions, their purpose,
and actually having a vision for themselves
beyond where to find water or where to find food.
And it would be a wonderful day
if all the different passion companies
in the world came together
and started working towards the process
of figuring out, okay, who needs these things the most?
Who can we get these types of resources to the fastest?
How can we help?
That's really what it should all be about.
And I'm hoping that we do inspire that type of change.
So granted that most of my audience
is in the first world
or has access to first world technologies,
if you're looking to pursue your passions
and you're looking to find that motivation,
then I'm just gonna give a number of advices,
things that can help you do that.
I'm gonna pull Jaime's comment up in the meantime
as well, let's read this real quick.
So Jaime, passions mold our visions
and understanding what drives us
will lead us to making those visions become realities.
Very good.
Passions definitely drive the vision forward.
And the more we exercise our passion,
the more we exercise our meditation or prayer
or however we go about getting clarity about our visions,
the stronger that it's going to get.
And it doesn't work any different than your muscles.
Right?
And if you can understand that,
whether you have a six-fac or whether you're fat,
or whether you're skinny fat like me,
I understand that as I exercise daily,
my body starts to respond
not immediately, but over time.
And sometimes my response begins with a negative,
not a positive transformation
because your body's going, what the heck are you doing?
Well, the same is true
when you're trying to approach vision and passion,
but some of the secret weapon tools
that you should keep in mind,
and I highly recommend writing some of these down.
And they are very, very simple by the way,
but simple does not mean easy.
Okay?
So if you want to be healthy in life, for instance,
take 10,000 steps per day and do 100 pushups and 100 setups.
Right?
That's a very simple formula.
And it's so uninspiring
that it's not going to go viral on YouTube.
But if you were to do that on a daily basis,
your inevitable result would probably be
that you would be in a much healthier state of mind
or much healthier position in life.
But it's so simple and so redundant
and can be so boring
that people don't want to do it.
So, you know, where we get distracted,
drinking water, a gallon of water per day,
I think is what they say.
I mean, I just, I only really drink water.
And so that helps with my attitude.
It helps with my body.
It flushes things out of me
that are negative probably.
I mean, I eat plenty of processed food.
I probably shouldn't.
Making sure that you get to sleep
that you're supposed to get on a choup.
Oh man, how do you say her last name is a choup?
She was on the other day, fantastic life coach,
wonderful attitude,
teaches people how to find their confidence.
She's actually really good at it
for how young she is.
She's amazing at it.
Anna talked about,
she had a post to the day on LinkedIn
about making sure you get more sleep.
And I kind of came in there and was like,
well, some of this generation needs to learn to sleep less.
You know, they're sleeping their life away.
And I kind of took the other angle on it.
But it was a really good, healthy debate
around both realities.
Now, also making sure that you get sunshine,
going outside, you know,
getting a walk in for fresh air's sake, super important.
Serving others and specifically doing so in small ways.
You know, and I remember a mentor talking about
giving $100 away to a random stranger,
like give a dollar away to a random stranger,
give a peso away to somebody, you know,
or pay for food for somebody that's behind you
in line at the restaurant that you go to.
That's another way.
I like to get the nutrient grain bars at Walmart
and keep those in my car because they're not as perishable.
So when the Texas sun beats down on my car
and crushes, makes everything melt in my car,
nutrient grain bars somehow withstand that heat.
And so I like to keep water bottles with me as well.
You know, one time I gave a guy the water bottle
and the nutrient bar was, it was hot outside.
And I was like, I'm really sorry.
Like this is hot water.
He goes, is it wet?
Like excited to have that water bottle.
And I was like, yeah, it is, man.
You know, God bless you.
And he said the same thing.
And you know, he said, God bless you too.
And I was like, wow, you know, like to be that,
and that difficult of a position to where you're ready
and excited to receive hot water from somebody
in a hot day, you know, like I am truly blessed.
And so if you are too, and you know,
one of the places that I lived in is we're wrapping up,
I used to live in a place known as Happy Valley.
And that's over in Utah, up in Utah rather from where I met.
And yes, there is a degree of safety and happiness
that exists.
And from what I understand, that general region
from Provo to Salt Lake City is one of the top users
of Prozac and antidepressants.
And to me, it's not a surprise.
And it's not, and I get it.
I also felt very depressed after a while living there
because I didn't feel like there was anybody there
I could really help.
People had problems that I couldn't relate to.
People had problems of, you know,
a first world caliber that were so not my new,
and again, they had, or they had really severe problems
they couldn't really talk about with anybody.
And you have to be like a super therapist to help with.
So I wasn't able to be effective in helping others.
And that certainly took a toll on my psyche.
I like to live in the real world.
I like to live around people who have normal everyday problems
just like myself, and I like to be able to help those people.
It drives joy to my soul.
I also enjoy helping my counterparts and friends
and team members in Central and South America
and looking for new people who, you know,
are making a dollar or less per day,
a dollar or less per hour,
and seeing if we can transform their lives
by helping them find work.
That to me feels my soul with good feelings,
and that's really what Passion Pro is all about.
I wanna help people live with more purpose,
find what it is they wanna do in this life,
ultimately cultivate joy because of it,
and yeah, be able to transform our globe.
We need it, and we have the opportunity to do so.
And so I spend my time on that
rather than worrying about the negativity
that goes on in the world around me,
and I feel like my impact is having a greater purpose
than when I used to focus on the negativity of news
that exists in the world today.
So thank you for hearing me out.
If you wanna join Passion Pro, passionpro.org is where you go.
You can see on your screen,
there's a button you click to learn more
that takes you right into the ability
to sign up for the course, no credit card,
just your email, sign up so you can create your username,
and the terms and conditions, you know,
you can scroll through those two and read that.
Once you've signed in, it'll take you right
to the Passion Pro challenges,
and you'll be off to the races.
And if you commit yourself to it, then I promise you,
you will learn things about yourself
that will allow you to then make adjustments to your life
that can lead to greater purpose and fulfillment.
And thank you so much for joining us.
Hope you have an excellent day, Passion Pros.
And if we can do anything for you at all,
don't hesitate to reach out to me or my team.
And we'll talk to you on the other side, much love.
Bye-bye.
Thank you for being here today.
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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions
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We optimize them as the months go by.
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We'll have more and more engagement as well.
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and have an excellent time building out your vision
and becoming a vision pro yourself.