for past time, man.
So we gotta get going live.
So yeah, we're gonna talk about the future.
We'll talk about the present.
We'll talk about the systems that we're coming out with,
the systems that we've used to get us.
All right, welcome in to Vision Pros Live.
With Jackson Callum, I'm your show host.
We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs
and guests, guest leaders
who are building fantastic visions out there.
Ultimately, I just wanna go through some of the things
that might help you with your vision.
So if you have a vision that you're pursuing,
drop a link in the comments and let us know what that is.
If that's a business or a brand,
if it's a nonprofit that you run,
be happy to promote it, be happy to talk to you about it.
And if you'd like to apply to be on Vision Pros
and be interviewed about that vision,
then by all means, feel free to reach out.
And I'll see you in the next one.
All right, welcome to Vision Pros Live, everybody.
I'm your host Jackson Callum, CEO of First Class Business,
co-founder, Able Health, CEO of Podbooker as well.
And my co-founder is a CEO of Able Health,
and I'm the CEO of Able Health,
and I'm the CEO of Able Health.
And Sawardi Kaurari, CEO of Able Health,
Sawardi Kaurari, CEO of Able Health,
and of course, man,
here's the forward where you did it,
is the follow-up guy.
So it seems to be your dang
intro stream and me and Jaime we're making faces at each other. We're dancing in the background.
It's all about getting pumped up. I mean that's that's mindset. So yeah, yeah, for real for real. It totally is. So
we're gonna talk about unleashing your vision to the world not Jaime's vision, not my vision, but you you who are listening
I personally believe that everybody in this world is a visionary and their own right and their own space
Most people feel a little bit uncomfortable with that word and they don't really know how to talk about it
But it's so important and I want to share why I consider everyone a visionary in this world
So everybody's a vision in this world because you are ultimately
The person who gets to choose where you want to go in life
What you want to make of your life and yes, some people come from circumstances where that's much harder to do than others
But at the end of the day, we do get to make our choices
And yes, this podcast is specifically designed around the people who have the strange and unique blessing
Of being able to project a vision and build a vision that helps and serves others
So Jaime knows quite a bit about that himself his background really intrigues me
So Jaime, let's put you on the hot seat
You know
You tell us a little bit about where you grew up
What that was like, you know, and maybe some of the the contrast that you've seen in life
Related to different lifestyles and and what's brought you to this point where you work with first class business
If you can summarize that somewhat in like two to three minutes
Let's start there. I'll try and do so because I tend to extend but yeah, of course
So I was born in Peret, Colombia. I lived most of my childhood
Normally as a Colombian kid until I was nine and then my parents immigrated to the US
I lived
They are five years. I was blessed to be able to
Where I I lived in Virginia. I lived in
Alexander
state
No, no state Virginia. What do you mean? What do you mean random? It's it's a what city were you in?
I was I was in alexander. So I grew up there. I I went to school. I learned my english
It took me I would say anywhere from three to six months to learn english and it was really really hard
Yeah, to me like totally normal
My brother and sister live there and I've I've done like business there as well. So I
I it's normal. What do you mean? That's that that's cool. I've never been to Virginia
I need to go sometime. I don't think I've been to Virginia. I think it's one of the few states. So
Much like most people go to Texas or New York or California and that's what I mean like it's it's one of the oh cool
That's a surprise
But it's certainly different from the cities you just mentioned. Absolutely. I bet
Yeah, so
I studied I I I got to know the the american
Culture and I brought that back to me when I was 15. I finished my high school here. I did my college
international business major
and then from there I started working
Between things I did like sport coaching and and so forth for a couple of years until I actually
Landed a job and I worked for a u.s. Company that was based in Miami
and then we did
We did a lot of things. So we did with the school. Did you say you graduated high school at 15 years old?
No, no, no, no, no, okay. So you got 18
When I I went back to Columbia when I was 15. So I finished my high school and then I went on to the college
and so for the last company that I worked for we did like different things between
business coaching we did personal coaching for people
And then we also did sports coaching and we also ran an international soccer program
Which allowed me to travel the world and like different parts of the world and it was really fun
We had events everywhere like aruba, Mexico
We even had
Italy and then a lot of states and within the u.s. And also Columbia as well
So I was able to interact with different cultures and and be exposed to different types of people actually
so I've actually met a lot of entrepreneurs and
And I've seen like the different styles between the different cultures and everything that goes on
So that's a little bit of my background and what I've been able to do and how I've been able to interact and use
um
My my knowledge from actually college that did work for me college did work for me
And it led me to want to get to know different cultures and and so that's why I like to continue learning every day
I want to learn something new see I love that and as some people know I'm a college dropout
But it's not because college is bad. It's because I didn't know how to utilize college for my benefit
I didn't know how I didn't have that training and I didn't figure it out
I wasn't smart enough at that age to figure out. Okay. This network of people is here to incubate me into a productive adult
I was not anywhere close to being ready for that
But you were and so you got the benefit out of that
Um, and then you went and toured with these uh
Soccer programs and stuff which is amazing. It's a very prominent worldwide sport. Most people in america now know that
um, you know, but it's like dominating the world in terms of
entertainment and and value that it brings to cultures
So what types of leagues did you participate in where did that take you?
What was one of your favorite memories from that?
Um, well, I got to travel to Italy three years and that's like the biggest experience I had because
I between those three years I had to one way or another learn italian
so I know basic italian and like I I started using google translate and and whatever I could use like do a lingual
or or
Or simply just asking people like what certain things meant and I had to email people do hotel
Uh agreements do meal planning transportation and when I had to do all that
based off like
My own learning of the language. So I I truly enjoy that so every time I travel a league or a program
What was it called? It was it's a program. It's a program and we actually like did camps and from those camps players were selected
And they went to play different tournaments, which we also coordinated
So it wasn't like actual like different leagues is it's an international program and then we participated in different tournaments
We actually the first year I went to Italy we participated in the ace Milan, which is a pretty big club in italy
And and we did their tournament. Yeah
AC Milan is the team you wanted to be when you played FIFA soccer in 2005
I remember that that was the team you wanted to have. I was really good at that
I'm the 64 whatever it was. How are they doing right now?
Um, they're actually they're actually very good during the
During like the higher stage of the champions league and they're actually going to be playing the fica if I'm not
Mistaken almost that that would be the semi-finals. So they're actually doing pretty good and they ended up being champions
Last year after a lot of years without being being in the top. So they're actually doing excellent this year
So I'm glad to hear that
That's awesome. That's really cool, man. I'm gonna throw this on the screen till we're talking about this. So
again, if you are a
Rising visionary or an established visionary, we're gonna be revealing some of the secrets behind how we've launched vision pros live
Why we've launched it the way that we have where we're going with it
How it's going to ultimately benefit for any of you who are trying to unlock your own visionary nature
And I don't know if people will stick around and listen to our show religiously for 10 years
You know, and I don't even know if we'll run it for 10 years
I imagine it will mold and morph and and turn into evolve into new opportunities
Like a full-on media production is one of the one of the elements that I can see vision pros turning into
But some people are going to be transitioning from hey, I want to be inspired to become a visionary to
You know what? I want to go produce my own show
I want to go produce my own reality and I need more time dedicated to
Building than it is to see and so yes, why why consider everyone a visionary is because you have your control over your own
Own story and your own destiny ultimately to an extent
Um, you know, how do you know if you are a visionary? That's a different question
It doesn't matter what I say it matters what you know about life and what you what you think and believe so
Um, I know that for me
I discovered that uh that I'm a visionary and that I have big visions through
the process of
Trying to launch so many ideas in my life and having so much just thinking differently about the world kind of being always
outside of the box
And realizing that almost everybody I talked to is like you're very unique. You're very different very weird
You know, I don't like talking to you. I mean or yeah, you inspire me like the polarizing effects that I have on people for good
And for bad and have been ping-ponged throughout life with that made me realize like okay
No, I definitely see the world very differently than other people do. What about you Jaime?
What do you consider yourself a visionary?
And how did you find that if you do?
Well, I do consider myself a visionary but that was that was recent it isn't it isn't
congratulations
Yeah, as I as I continued growing I saw that my attitude and the way I talked to people and the way I saw things
Uh, because I I tend to be a natural problem solver or whenever I see a problem
I want to jump in and do something and I realize I realize people don't do that
So I was like, okay. Yeah, so if you're a visionary and you're you're definitely with a entrepreneur spirit
You're definitely going to be weird. So I do I do consider myself a visionary and I think that is also very important for you to
Analyze yourself see what ideas you have and simply just go for them as you are a visionary
You shouldn't be scared to jump in and do the things that you want to do as long as you have a passion for it
And that you see that it adds value. I mean, that's that's what it is all about
Oh, man, I love that I'm I'm gonna put these words in your mouth a little bit because you more or less said it
We just got to make sure that you actually believe it. You said if you're a problem solver
You're a visionary you alluded to that. Is that what you meant?
Uh, yes and no, uh, you gotta teach me it's it's just because I I was trying to put my
understanding of how I I came to realize it
But not necessarily
I well, I don't think necessarily
You are visionary if you are a problem solver because you could be a visionary and there's people that just have a tons of ideas
But they get the right person to solve that issue or solve or get that vision done
So you don't necessarily have to be that action person as long as you have that vision and you're able to find the right team
To put it together. Well, the great news is I get to steal the quote now
Um, so actually I need to just change it so that it's mine because what I heard you say is what I feel too
I'm like, well, wait a second
You're because if if you're solving a problem, right a problem that exists and you're creating a future solution
Right a solution that doesn't exist and you envisioned
that solution
so
That's so I'll take credit for the for the quote because I did pay something similar to that
You did you can have it. I'm fine with that
I believe you did create it you created it within me. So that's cool, man
So and and it just goes back to the concept that I really do believe people
Everybody out there has a vision now. You might be surrounded by people who block your vision
All right people who are downers debbie downers, you know
Or negative neds about what you're trying to do and that makes it hard to want to admit that you're a visionary
It makes it hard to want to talk about your visions
Um and at the same time, that's why I surround myself with people who appreciate the visions
I'm putting out in the world and who want to sustain and build it with me. So
Um, you know, let's shift years a little bit again
We're going to go into the future of where we've come from where we're going
Y'all probably noticed those who've seen since the beginning some of the post production effects that we've added to it
You know like the like the logos of the water project being involved
That's our desire to raise awareness for that particular program. Um, you know and get the water project's name out there
Sometimes we talk about it. Sometimes we contribute financially to it. Sometimes we just leave it there so that people understand
Oh, man, I should probably check out what that is
Same thing with the other logos we have here are sponsors
Um epiphany and able health allowing us to utilize their logos. Those are not paid for sponsorships
Um, but we invest in them every day and they invest in us every day in the mutual relationships that we have
And I've gained so much knowledge from dr. Seth Yates of able health my business partner in that venture and
rick meekins my friend and colleague over at epiphany and converge so we it's one of our ways to honor them
and also create a vision for
monetizing this channel for the benefit of everybody by eventually
Going to people who may want to sponsor this long term and saying hey, here's the value of what we have
Here's the audience that we have if you want to be in front of that audience
What value do you have to provide where they can then pay for that sponsorship? It's it's called vision painting
In this instance, I learned that front term from a fantastic entrepreneur
in toronto canada
And I honestly I cannot remember his name
But I know he was on broadway and as he talked about
his vision for the nonprofit that he was launching and talked about that vision painting
And unlocked a reality for me to help understand how to help people move forward with processes that don't necessarily exist yet
And that's how vision pros started vision pros did not exist
We did not know what we were doing
And so we'll come back to again who you think a visionaries if you want to you know comment for us
You know, who's a visionary to you one that you look up to or one that you don't like it can be either one
And we'll talk about good and bad visionaries in a minute, but in terms of
Vision painting, you know and realizing that okay. I can be more precise about what I want to put out in this world
Vision pros was incubated so to speak when I was talking to a nephew of mine
Who did not like learning about the fundamentals of life?
Um, he's very intellectual very smart and he thought it was stupid um that that people
Ultimately talking circles about the same things over and over
And I wanted to name my podcast talking in circles to somewhat honor him and somewhat tease him because
That's how the fundamentals work. You want to build around the fundamentals
So you get great at them and that's what drives championship behavior
Um is sticking to the basics. So I got ready to launch it
And I was watching an episode or a highlight probably on youtube is more likely of jimmy fallon
I find him very funny. Um, and so I was watching that episode and
As I watched it. I was probably two weeks away from launching and I thought
Jimmy shows up to this show every single day somehow. He never gets sick
Right somehow he never misses. He's there every night at the exact same time
And I was at a point in my life where I was like
No, no, I do not want to be chained down to to to this podcast thing
Maybe someday I'll launch in series. Maybe someday I'll launch in different events
But I knew in my heart and mind that it was a hard no back then that I was not supposed to launch the podcast at that time
And so I started building more and more companies and working with others finally got first class business launched
And then I told my team a few team members about
The podcast stuff we had it logged in asana where we keep track of our project management
And I kept assigning this podcast thing to different people right some people say in the company some people left
You know, some people are you know looking for more structure than what a startup can provide
For instance, um, and so they they got access to it, but it probably took me like five to 10 to 15 people
Maybe more closer to 15 people
For the right people to come along and realize hey, let's build this and that's how vision pros was ultimately incubated was through a series of learning
about the back end processes
So
Helping support other so they're doing things and then finding the right people moved it along and Jaime is one of those
mbps I can't give him the full mbp yet. There's still room to decide him and gabriella or neck and neck on this
Cynthia's right there too helping but
having
mbp caliber teams who's doing the
Best right, but I think the day we all work together as a as a strong team and unit and they've done a phenomenal job of pulling vision pros
forward I ultimately
I have I don't feel like I've done a whole lot to make this thing happen otherwise other than show up and run my mouth
You've done your perspective
You've done you've done a lot. What are you talking about? You're you're you're the main pusher of everything
Yeah, but no, I definitely agree. I mean our design team is is phenomenal in all areas
Whatever whatever we do the the design team always has that start
That's star. So it's it's it's important to give them like a lot of huge credit
See that's why you didn't also get privy to right? It's like you might not have been there for the conversations with the design team
Right where I'm trying to come up with a concept and they're like
Nailing it down, you know, I'm like, oh my gosh. You created what I wanted to create but I really didn't like that's what I mean by it
It's like it was a complete mutual effort
And so yes, I we couldn't have done it without me, but I could have never ever brought this to fruition without your help without
Cynthia without gabriella without
Zach also like Zach unlocked our youtube channel a long time ago by producing what I I taught he never done a video production before ever
Did you know that? Nope. I did all of our first videos on youtube. We're done by Zach
Every single one of them. He's a web developer. He liked the idea of it. He jumped in and helped me out
I guided him to what we learned a video power
Um, I and I know how to optimize videos as far as like telling people what to do
But I suck at design. I think you know that by now you've seen my design mock-up. I see you're
It's ugly it's ugly
It's terrible
Um, but now that I have a design team that's helping us move forward they design what I come up with
And then I step back and I'm like
That's beautiful, but I did not describe that well at all. Um, you know
I'm like and that's doesn't make sense. Um, and it's not the design's fault
It's my fault. I didn't have a very clear vision of what I needed
But then the design team gets me so much clarity on like, oh, wow, okay
Well, that sucked, but it's not y'all's fault. It's my fault
But now I see exactly how we can fix it and then we come out with these amazing designs that I that I put up in the
Office where I'm like, okay, man. I've got super clarity now about what it is. We do and how we do it the same way
It's true again for podcast launching a podcast vision, you know building out vision pros live and whatever type of vision you're building
Um
There's too many people who let me see or when you think of a visionary
Who do you think of, you know, if I don't know if anybody answered that it's fine if you didn't, you know, I think of people
Who do you think of Jaime visionaries?
Visionaries the biggest one that I can think of is Elon Musk. Yeah, that's what I thought of
He's he's he's different
He's the modern
Einstein the modern Thomas Edison, right? Yeah, like people think he's an alien like he
I can believe that I think I'm an alien said Dean literally calls me an alien. Uh, probably once a week. Um, so
So yeah, he is he's he's absolutely absolutely different. Who else do you think of?
Um
I guess innovation it has to be like through amazon. Maybe Jeff Bezos Bezos
Yeah, like everything that he's done with amazon and how he's pulling everything together and and bringing like
Everything forward and now he's trying like to get things automated as well and getting like packages
two places without the need of
Of anyone. I mean, that's that's still moving forward and there's so many things that he's doing. So
Yeah, for sure. Have you seen a picture of them like 20 years ago and today?
We've seen that score late. It's so fun
because they were like
Like awkward normal people like us like like just like without you know much
And then they go through this transition of becoming billionaires and next thing, you know, they've got like their hair done perfectly
And they're good looking and they look like celebrity. You know, they've become celebrities ultimately
I've only seen the picture of like they show Jeff Bezos and
In a jot and he's all like pumped up and he's like
He's like all white
He does a good job of covering that, huh? Yeah
That's funny. Oh man, that's awesome
And so yeah, it's funny if you go on google and you look up the difference between
They're past their present, you know, like they're balding with like funky hair and now all of a sudden they've got hair again
Or Jeff shaved it off and own the fact that he's he's good looking
And he's like, oh, I'm gonna go get him
Um, you know or Jeff shaved it off and and own the fact that he's he's good looking ball dude
So it's just it's funny to see the transformation they go through
But really we get distracted by the actual visionary what people don't often think about and realize is that
It's not just them
right there are thousands and thousands and thousands of people who are supporting and building their visions
You know and ultimately when it comes down to it, there are millions of people
Ultimately cheering those visions on as well. And yes, there's an equal proportion or even a greater proportion of people who absolutely hate
What they're doing right or wrong. I'm not about I'm not about judging that or figuring that out
Um, what I'm what I'm getting at though is no matter what your vision is
You're probably gonna have an equal proportion of people who love what you're trying to build
And people who will want to tear it down
Um, and and people who will hate what it is that you're up to and that's something that you have to ultimately condition yourself
To become comfortable with as a visionary is you become a target?
um, and if you're not careful about finding people
Or you're not built with an infrastructure like like I don't know Jeff story or elan story very well
But I do know that bill gates is very open about the fact that his parents are one of his greatest
Foundations for his success and they teed him up in all sorts of ways like connecting him against his will to warn buffett
Um, you know his mom made him take that meeting. Um, and so you know, it's it's it's important to realize that the visionary
Uh, you know if you've got a vision and you're hoarding it or you're hiding it and you're scared to get it out there
Well, that's fine if you want it to just be yours
And you don't want it to expand but if you want it to expand and you want it to
Get out there, um, and and you've got to be willing to be vulnerable with that vision
You've got to be willing to allow people to laugh at you to mock it to try to destroy it
um, and uh, ultimately have the the valiant
nature of
Moving it forward. I'm going to come back to that valiant nature thought in just a minute
In regards to a poet from argentina or uragua. I don't remember where he's from. I'm gonna look it up
But before I before I do that, um, let's move to the next topic. Um, we talked about good and bad visionaries a little bit
I'm going to throw up a ticker here. Um that
Uh, in regards to bad visionaries. Um, and who are some examples?
I mean, let's just let the audience go on that
So feel free to take the torch from me wherever you want to go right now
As far as the future of vision pros and what it's going to provide to people or what you've gained out of the process
Or wherever you want to go man
shows yours
Yeah, I mean vision pros like I I didn't know much about podcasting before this so it's been uh
How do I do the other one? How do I do the other one?
Sorry
The exact opposite of what I wanted
uh, yeah, so
Um, so I I didn't know much about this but as as I got into it
Um, I mean podcasting is the next thing like this is the next media source that
People are looking to have so everyone is looking for podcasts
They're listening every day and they're tuning in to find different people
And it's interesting people that they can relate to so
Our vision is also to have people in here and have them share their stories
Share their successes and share their their businesses as as they move forward and they grow
So we've had a lot of interesting people in the past and I recommend you guys go and watch them all because they've all been fantastic
They've shared their vision. They're share where they're at their difficulties and whatever
Um, successes they've had already in life. So moving forward with the podcast
We want to continue growing our audience and we want to continue putting
Everything in place so that we're in a position
Where we can actually help even more the visionaries that are coming into
Um, our podcast and moving forward. We also want to be able to reach different type of audiences
So we've been with coaches
life coaches
We've been with business coaches
executive coaches and we've been with different entrepreneurs in in different areas like sales like business
development and
And and like this is where we want to continue taking the podcast
We want to make it grow and right now we're installing and we're having to
implement everything necessary for us to grow that audience and help
um
And help however we can the the visionary entrepreneurs that are coming in
Absolutely, man. Thank you for for
Saying that while I was running to the other room, you know, Jaime's probably looking at me in the bottom of corn like
Where's Jackson going?
I was going to grab this. Um, this is one of the things that I purchased
Uh, right before leaving Uruguay after my two years there and I bought it because it was cool looking
Um, that's really the only reason I bought it. I did not know how much I'd come to love
this quote
um, and then I lost it
And in one of my moves and one of my boxes that I decided not to open here
And you know, I was looking for something else last night
I came across it again and it was perfect because last week I was trying to quote it
But I had forgotten the quote. I just remembered how important like the quote had become to me
So this is from uh, and I I had to look up the context real quick because I totally butchered the story
Um, and don't quote me on this either if you can correct me if you find the true story and I'm wrong
That's fine. I'm I'm finally being wrong
Martin Fierro
Is what I when I saw as a poem about it's like a 2,300 line poem. It's very very long
Um, and this is an excerpt from it according to ever put this together
I don't even know that's true because I've never read the poem
So this might not have anything to do with it. Um, you know, it might be marketing manipulation at its best
Um from like, hey, let's just sell this to some some american. Um, you know, who's willing to buy it?
I don't know. Um, but I do I do love the context. There's so much truth in what it says and it says
You should be prudent when facing extreme
danger
If you are
Then you will always
Then and then say siempre cesaro mejor andando con la pretencia
You should always be moving forward with awareness
Um, as well I gain out of that and then it says porque no está la prevencia reñida con valor
Um, and so it talks about you can't you know, you can't have bravery true bravery
without
Wisdom wisdom does not surrender to bravery. It goes hand in hand
And I thought that was amazing and especially how it's combined with this, uh,
Gaucho this cowboy who's probably taming this Bronco. That's my guess. Um, as he's working on that that process and
And you know, you wouldn't just jump on a random wild horse without any training
You know and and expect a good outcome not not most people
Um, you know, at least that's not that's not true bravery, right? But being able to
Being able to tame a wild animal, whether that's yourself
You know or an animal that's out there, um, you know, we're going to a situation and
And uh, that's kind of dangerous do something like put your vision out to the world. I'm not saying do it haphazardly
I'm saying you want to be prudent about it. You want to be wise about it
Calculated you want to find the right people around you to support you in the process and know that there's a reason it's in your heart
There's a reason it's in your mind. There's something special that you were called to to do with that
Um, but it's not something for me or Jaime or anybody else to guide you on and Jaime did mention like going back to the past
Episodes and watching those if you feel called to do so then absolutely
Right and I I'm very careful about what I consume how much time I spend consuming because I'm a producer not a consumer
So if I if I know I need something to overcome a specific block in life
Then I will get the book on the subject or go talk to the expert on the subject
Right, I will go find the answer. I will see what my mentors say about it. But if if it's not
Extremely purposeful. I don't like in aligned with what I want my vision to be
I don't waste my time
On it. I won't go back and watch the the episodes just to watch the episodes and follow somebody
I recommend that you become more purposeful
With with what it is that you decide to to put your time towards even if that means
Not listening to vision pros, you know, because it's a distraction or adds to the noise of what you need in life
So let's talk about these bad visionaries a little bit, right bad people so to speak
I'm not a really I gotta get my quotes in the right spot for this
Oh, but we can hope it with that here
Appreciate you. There we go. No, I still messed it up just for you. Uh, just kidding
Um, so are there bad visionaries too? Who are some examples? What can we learn from them? Can bad people
Exercise good virtues, right? These are very important things to pay attention to we live in a society that reacts
Right can virtues be utilized to cause destruction?
And is a visionary perfect all of these questions are things that
Most people that I know
Don't have the peace of mind and heart
To slow down and answer appropriately
That's not everybody, but I know a lot of people who struggle with that
So when you look at bad visionaries, who comes to mind? I may if I say bad visionaries
It's like a trap question almost, but it's it's not there's something I would say
For some reason I think of uh
bad president
Kim Jong-un I just looked them up. I wanted to kim jung
I wanted to be the north korean guy. Yep. He's I mean I'd say so
Scary. Hey, scary, right from what we know from what I know from my perspective
um, you know, I'm not trying to soften to
Um to shy away from the reality of how I feel regarding that. I just know that
Um, I don't know him personally. Um, you know, but I what I've seen what I've learned what I heard like that's a dude
You don't mess with uh, you know that's doing things that you know when I think about the people that I've heard of in the north korean
concentration camps my heart aches and hurts, you know for that reality based on what I know about concentration camps
It takes me back to bad visionary
Adolf Hitler
Um, you know like I'm I'm not the final judge on things, but holy crap
You know the amount of suffering and pain that that was caused to people throughout the world because of his vision
Um is something that creates an extreme darkness. Um, and at the same time
I think it's also very helpful to read the old school original
self-development book that existed in life after the bible
Um after cor the coran and all all those other types of books
But there's one called as a man thinketh by james allen
And in that book he does a phenomenal job somehow in 1840s 1830s long before the internet existed
He did an amazing amazing job of articulating
the fact that as a man thinketh so is he and showcasing how
great people um, you know good people
All victim of consequences due to the lack of virtues associated with that aspect of life wherever they're falling and and
Evil people if you will bad people rise to success not because they are evil
But because they have virtues that they exercise and in some regard I'll add to James's thoughts manipulate
Um in order to achieve their certain outcomes
Um, but we sometimes get stuck
Looking at their life as a whole and the negative and the bad that they do
And ignore the virtues that they possess that drove their success and that's to our own detriment
Do you know where I'm going without hi may or do you want me to expound?
um
I I haven't read as a man thinketh and that is one of that it is in my
Must read
I'm waiting. I'm waiting for my amazon point
Very sorry, but that that is one of my my
Go-to books. I I've heard a lot about that book
It's it's a base pillar for a lot of visionary entrepreneurs
And I haven't read it. So I don't want to bug in and and
Make an opinion on something I haven't read or have a
uh in depth
knowledge of so
Dude, one of the things that we've talked about is tagging the the thought leaders that we talk about on the show, right?
Um, and that way they can join us. I would personally be freaked out if James Allen joined our show right now because he's been dead for like 100 years
um
Well, I hope that doesn't happen. Um, but at the same time, it's a good resource to put out there for sure
So as a man thinketh yes, and and I'll I'll expound a little bit on on what I was talking about then
so for instance, let's take somebody polarizing like whether it's LeBron James or
Donald trump, um or the
current president joe biden, um, you know anybody out there, you know, a lot of people are going to just like click off right now
That I mentioned those names um protect yourself. Listen, you know
Take a step back and try to hear the truth that exists in what I say next which is
You know one thing about all three of those individuals is they all practice the art of diligence to a certain degree
Right they they try hard, you know, even when biden falls off his bike in front of the world. He gets back up
um, you know, um, even when trump is you know exercising
You know improper perhaps authority over people. Um, you know that he's still
He's still diligent. You know, we cannot we probably shouldn't deny the diligence that exists even when he golfs
Right is he diligently socializing? Um, you know, is he getting out there and and golfing LeBron James?
Uh, I'm kind of biased. I do have quite the fan
I'm quite the fanboy um for all things basketball and especially the uh a leader of the points column now
Um, and you know diligence diligence is a virtue that the man possesses
Um, Marie forleo, um, you know, you can look at mother Teresa
Same thing. Um, and I would say that both of them are very diligent individuals
So the question that I pose to my children and that I hope the world can gravitate back or gravitate towards not back towards
But towards is assessing people not based on who's good and evil
But what virtues is a person utilizing and do they possess?
To create the strengths that they have in their life
Right because if you can look at that and you can assess people based on strengths and based on their weaknesses
It can help you learn how to emulate the same thing in your life
Um, and so I'm grateful for my mom giving me a series of books called the virtue books
I believe and each character in the book with somebody in history
Related to the virtue that they possessed that helped them accomplish the things that they want to accomplish
And I'm looking forward to my kids getting to an age where we can start building that same type of a program
For the future. So that's not necessarily related to vision pros future and what we're building
But it is related to your vision and moving forward your vision in life and being bold enough to accept that good and bad people
as you might call them
Leverage virtues in order to grow their success and if you leverage virtues in your life
You're likely to also build more success for yourself any thoughts on that Jaime
It's it's also like you mentioned LeBron James. We could put it in the soccer world. It's christiana ronaldo
It's a person that that has that consistency and that mentality to also be careful, but continue moving forward. So
That man consistently consistently takes his shirt off after goals and shows his muscles
And he has every right to he's a good-looking dude
And he's an amazing soccer player
Absolutely good. Well, well said leonel messi right right up there with him on that. So
Well said anything else you want to add regarding that or do you want to showcase some of what we're up to with vision pros on the back end?
Some of the systems we've gone through i'm totally fine with that. I think it could be helpful for those who are
Building out their podcasts to know so you talk about rss feeds. Feel free to pull it up
I'll just unless you want to rattle off some things or do you want me to?
I'll go ahead. I'm sharing right now
Okay, so
Things that I have not touched and I've learned about and seen for years
But I'm grateful for Jaime who's and the team who built this out
So you got rss.com to help distribute the platform and realizing how much you got to pay to get those episodes
Distributed across the different platforms. You got google podcasts right one area one niche of people who have a certain device to access
The podcast you've got spotify amazon samsung podcast, you know, I don't ever use samsung phones
I think they're crap by the way
And there's uh my favorite of samsung
They're certainly not going to want to sponsor my show after saying that
But um, I also I have my feelings about all the phone makers by the way
It's not fair that our phones die after two to three years and how much we pay for them
But whatever that's a different conversation for another day in a different business model to tackle
so
When I said you also got the ability to put these shows on programs like podbooker, right? Which is the company i'm
CEO of
So I have a bias there, but I would love to see you if you have a show
Put it on podbooker if you are interviewing guest experts or guests in general of any type
So it's a great place where you can easily get connected to people who could be excellent fits for your show
And it's got a it's got a free version that you can utilize
So feel free to log into that and show showcase what ours looks like if you if you have the ability to
Um, but ultimately we have our profile so that I can get I can guest on shows and expand our audience
Or we have the ability to invite guests that are already curated based on what we read in their profiles
What we see in terms of their reviews and it streamlines the process of coordinating so that it's easy to know
We just use this platform to coordinate for podcasts
I absolutely love it and believe and believe very heavily in what daniel geffen
And and jace have been able to build that so far. So there we go. There's the profiles the podcast profiles now live
Hi, may got that on there just a couple weeks ago
We got the rss portion updated today
Um, so that that's now going to distribute the show is going to start distributing on itunes and google etc
We didn't launch this show with the anticipation of hey, let's launch it and immediately be the
equivalent of a new york times best-selling podcast
That wasn't the point the point was to figure it out as we go plan it out
Like normal human beings and see what we have to learn through the process
Using some of our greatest resources like pat flinn of smart passive income phenomenal guide
john lee dumas entrepreneur on fire
phenomenal guide
We didn't need to purchase their materials to launch the way that we wanted to launch
But I have studied their materials for years and years and years and their methodologies and what they train and teach
I have absolute admiration for both of them and how they build their programs
And that has a massive influence and impact on how we chose to launch what we're what we're launching and I'm sure we'll make that those
relationships
We'll get those relationships to go full circle
Within the foreseeable future probably by the end of the year is my guess
Um, but what else uh, what else do you feel has gone into this time?
And what are some of the lessons we had to learn as we wrap up?
um
well
We have to always set up the systems on how we're getting the guests together. So that's still a work in progress
Which we're still continuing to improve and everything we're doing is always continuing to improve
I guess that that's one of the mentalities that we have and
That also makes us different because we constantly want to make changes and we want to improve as we
Continue to optimize and grow
um, and so that
Getting to that part where we know how to invite guests getting the guests together. We are now using plot worker as
As we got everything all set up
So we're going to start using the platform
As it should be to book the different guests that are in the platform
But we're also reaching out through different social medias to people who have that
Generine interest in us and simply just want to connect and want to share their stories
So those are part of the procedures that we're putting in place and we should
uh, be optimizing as we go
And then just having this benefit of the
RSS feed will let us share everything in the different platforms as we continue to grow and the episodes keep on coming
so
We also want to I guess invite people to come in and and and simply message us
I mean, we we're open to a to a conversation. Generate conversation
Uh, simply getting to know people
Uh get to align with them and get them on the show
Absolutely, um, not not trying to steal your thunder here
Um building building on top of what you talked about for instance, you know, we do have a linkedin automation
um that connects us to
Relevant prospects who would be great candidates for the show
And ultimately the invitation is a very soft invitation
Um that allows them to get connected to me
Then invites them and then we can evaluate are they individuals that make sense for for having on the show or not?
Um, you know in this process of building that out building a reporting structure
One that's actionable. All right. That's what that last page was is it's my ability to take action on what my team has been able to
Produce and put together
So that it's very easy for us as a brand to know. Okay. Here's my messaging sequence and what it looks like based on the team
Setting up here's what my campaign performance looks like. Here's the connections that it's been connecting us to on a regular basis
You know, here's our engagement rates and reply rates
And this was a particularly very very low reply rate by the way and on the flip side of the reply rate
It was extremely highly high quality. Um, were the ones who did connect
Um, and sometimes we have campaigns that are the exact opposite
You know, there's been a lot of testing that goes into the process
But assessing kpi is
Knowing how many prospects are in the pipeline
Building this out one step at a time. How do you need an elephant? You need an elephant one step at one bite at a time
Um, I know you you can't do it. Um
Too well any other way. Um, the same is true with business. So we're actually
We're gonna include you guys today a little bit on what's called the debrief, right?
So after we finish the episode
Jaime and I take time to evaluate how do we know celebrate first when you debriefing?
It's so important to celebrate the great that's happening
You did amazing on this brother. Um, by the way, this is you did too, Jackson
I loved it. It was fun. And so we celebrate we also go into
What can you know, what do we do? Well, that's another big one, right starting on the positive
What do we do? Well count the blessings be grateful for what you're doing
Then we move into what do we what can we improve? How can we optimize this experience?
How can we provide more value to those that we're serving? And a lot of times that leads us to agenda items that we then need to
Articulate, okay. These are the activities we greet upon
Let's get them. How are we going to distribute them? Who's going to do the work?
What system are we going to log that in so we don't lose sight of it? So we actually take action
Then on month if we do that on our Wednesday show like the Tuesday show like today and our Wednesday show as well
We also start the shows we show up 20 minutes. Is it 20 minutes early? How many that you show up 20 minutes?
I supposed to be there 20 minutes early. Um, sometimes I'm there five minutes late
Um, and late for the show itself. Sometimes I'm there on time. Um, I'm getting better at it
And we use that time as well to kind of discuss how we're going to put the show together what questions
Came up
How can we honor the guests as well as possible etc?
And then on Mondays there's another meeting in place
I think there's just one meeting on Mondays for the podcast development. Is that correct?
It's in the morning. Yep. Yep, and I I designed the meeting
I think two years ago. Um, I created that create the agenda for it
I left it on my calendar repeating on Mondays every once in a while
I'd go back to it, but what it was it was a reminder to go to the gym
So to speak it was a constant. I could have deleted it like no
I'm gonna keep this here and it's gonna bother me. Um, you know until I do it or remind me that
I need to move my visions my life forward to a degree where I can get this on track
Sometimes I would know that it was so overwhelmed. I would postpone the event from bothering me for a while
That's what I refuse
What's
Cool is events there that took me years of preparation
I now assign my team members to those and I don't go
The team works on it. So at the podcast development meeting on Mondays
They have all the little questions that I've developed over time and all of the goals that we want to want to accomplish
And we refine that agenda. They learn how to refine agendas, but now they're every Monday
They're working on moving the podcast forward based on the years of vision that I've planned into it
Without me having to be present
Um, and then I get to ultimately evaluate and assess and say holy crap amazing
You guys got this stuff launched you did this this and this this is amazing
And it just feels so awesome to have a team that's able to put those those realities together with me
And ultimately for me too. Um, and so it's that's a huge honor. Thank you for doing so well on that Jaime
um, we will do
A little bit more debrief after we end the show. Um, I don't want to go too long after the fact
But again, if you're a visionary if you're not sure you're looking to build things that are amazing
Do not hesitate to reach out to us and contact us. We've also got a very new lead magnet that's cool to give away
I didn't include it in the show notes. We will after the fact, but it's the uh five top tips
You're attracting hosts expert hosts to want to host you on their show
There are things that you can do to influence a host that you should be doing anyway
But the most people aren't aware of they may not have the uh the emotional intelligence
They may not have the training
Of such one one such thing that I need to train down was Robert Kiyosaki taught
Or john Maxwell one of them in a in a recording with darin hardy
Unsuccess magazine to when you receive somebody's business card
To actually look at it
Like to honor them enough to study it and ask them questions about it and show them that you care
About who they are by doing such if I hadn't been told that I would have done what I've watched everybody else in life
Do which is take the business card and shove it in your pocket. Um
You know, yeah, you know that feeling. Uh, actually I was just just a quick
I was taught that you're supposed to receive it with both hands. You're supposed to look at it and then you put it away
That's how I show it to you
Uh, and I didn't know that the two hand thing but it makes sense. I mean, it's a very humble
Honoring position to put yourself into a position of surrendering to the value of who's in front of you
And that doesn't mean you're surrendering who you are your identity
It means you have honor and respect for the person you're talking to so thank you for adding that
That's a it's a great realization. Those are the types of things. Anyway, this this ebook that's coming out so to speak
Um, it's got five excellent tips for how to impress show hosts and gain their inspire them to say, you know
What I really would love to have this guest on my show
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So don't take my words out of context your value when you're willing to show up and bless people's lives and inspire them
Is enough uh to be a value to many many people on this earth
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