1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,160 Alright, welcome in to Vision Pros Live. 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,080 I'm Jackson Callum, I'm your show host. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:14,200 We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guests, guest leaders who 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,760 are building fantastic visions out there. 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,120 Ultimately, I just want to go through some of the things that might help you with your 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,120 vision. 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,200 If you have a vision that you're pursuing, drop a link in the comments and let us know 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,200 what that is. 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:32,680 If you're a business or a brand, if it's a non-profit that you run, be happy to promote 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,120 it, be happy to talk to you about it, and if you'd like to apply to be on Vision Pros 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:58,160 and be interviewed about that vision, then by all means, feel free to reach out. 12 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,640 Awesome everybody and welcome into Vision Pros Live, where I'll be hosting Tony Lopes 13 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:08,760 today of Freedom at Risk, fantastic book and Dirty Boots Capital. 14 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,880 Beyond that, he's just got so much power and vision for what he's doing and what he's 15 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,640 trying to do for people that I can't wait to bring him up here. 16 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,240 This is actually an impromptu interview. 17 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,360 The person I met Tony through is Ashley Demoque de Teo, de Teo Publishing. 18 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,040 She wasn't able to make it in today. 19 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,560 Last minute, Tony and I are texting back and forth and I'm like, hey man, you want to come 20 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,400 and talk on Vision Pros Live? 21 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,120 He's like, absolutely. 22 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,160 How further ado, Tony, let's bring you on and we'll get the full bio in as we go, but 23 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,840 we won't get the full bio in. 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,400 Come on, we'll get portions of the bio because your bio is probably much longer than you 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,400 even give yourself credit for. 26 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,400 So Tony, welcome today. 27 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,400 Appreciate having you. 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,880 Thank you so much, Jackson, for having me on. 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,680 This is going to be some really exciting content that we're creating today, so I'm super excited 30 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:53,680 for this. 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,080 Dude, I'm stoked as well. 32 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,080 You're right about that. 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,360 This is a very rare opportunity. 34 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,920 If you get the chance to hear this. 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:06,280 I'm going to talk about Tony in a way that may make some of you feel uncomfortable with 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,880 the reality of just how successful he is and what he's been up to. 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:15,320 But when you can retire at 44 years old, you become a multimillionaire and then you want 38 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,920 to help spread the wealth by teaching people about it and how that's done, but you do so 39 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:22,240 in such an authentic way, it can be like, well, wait a second. 40 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:28,240 I don't know if I can relate to this guy, but Tony's also got a background in understanding 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,520 what the hard knocks life looks like. 42 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,400 So we're going to go full circle on that. 43 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,400 Look at each of those spectrums. 44 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,320 And if you're listening in and you're looking for somebody to advise you on relation to 45 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,000 wealth, I've never found somebody more authentic than Tony. 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,000 I found some equals out there, but I've never found somebody more authentic than he is. 47 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,480 And we had a fantastic experience as we got to know each other on a trip recently. 48 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:57,120 I really got to dive in, but we'll dive into all the details that I've seen because I want 49 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,800 you guys in the audience to understand the power and value that Tony is to my life and 50 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,560 why I like to keep them as close to me as possible, any chance I get, no matter how 51 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,960 many states apart we are. 52 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,240 So Tony, just let me go there. 53 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,240 Thank you for your friendship, man. 54 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,120 That's the main thing I want to say. 55 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,560 And likewise, thank you for yours. 56 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,800 I'm so blessed in so many ways, but I'm certainly blessed to have you in my life and be helping 57 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:30,360 guide me, help me with branding, with thinking through different things. 58 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:38,880 There's not a lot of people out there who can just have the power of pure thoughts, and 59 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:45,120 to be able to sit down with you and to brainstorm through different topics, be able to, again, 60 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:53,960 just have different thoughts and not flow with the masses. 61 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,880 I so appreciate you and being that sounding board. 62 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,760 I love you calling me out for that. 63 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:00,760 You're so right. 64 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,760 I don't flow with the masses. 65 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,000 No, it's wild. 66 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,320 As you know, and as you do yourself, right? 67 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:16,720 We come across a lot of different people, and the important thing I try to do is have 68 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,000 some new thoughts. 69 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,240 And those new thoughts inspire me to do great things. 70 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,440 And sometimes you get stuck in your own head, and you need to talk to others to be able 71 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,160 to get out of that gudge. 72 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,640 And I'm sure your viewers know it as well, right? 73 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:40,640 You get stuck, and we need other people in our lives to inspire us to do greatness. 74 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,600 And that's what you help me with, Jackson. 75 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,200 You truly do. 76 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,440 And sometimes it's not even me jumping on a phone call with you. 77 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:53,520 It's me just thinking about you, and then these thoughts come. 78 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,400 So I appreciate you, man. 79 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,520 Thanks, man. 80 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:57,960 I appreciate that. 81 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:06,000 So Tony walks, he runs on a rocket ship laps around me in terms of financial advice and 82 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,640 the opportunities that are there. 83 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,520 And it's really cool because he can speak to me and others in a way that the people can 84 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:12,520 get. 85 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,560 But I want to just give you an array of things. 86 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,000 If you're into learning about gold, like in the investment, and what that would look 87 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,880 like to invest in gold, or if you want to know about investment in real estate, you 88 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:29,960 know, and complexes and the ups and downs, the ins and outs, there's so much that he 89 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:30,960 has to give there. 90 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,080 But again, I don't want to limit that. 91 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:38,360 If you're into any type of financial discussions, I've found Tony to be the type of person where 92 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,720 I can go to him. 93 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,120 And if he doesn't know what the answer is, I've found he's the type of person that will 94 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,160 guide you to the right type of person to talk to as well. 95 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,160 He's very well connected. 96 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:54,960 Tony, what are some of your favorite financial freedom topics to explore with people or to 97 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,840 put out to discuss with people? 98 00:05:56,840 --> 00:06:00,520 Well, my number one is definitely real estate. 99 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,240 That's my background. 100 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,000 I've been heavy into real estate for 20 years now. 101 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:13,960 It was the thing that allowed me to obtain financial freedom at the age of 44. 102 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,240 And now I get to do beautiful things that I want to do. 103 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,360 And one of those things is actually coach people on real estate and how to get into 104 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:28,040 real estate and all the benefits that real estate offers them. 105 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,040 It's not just something that the rich can do. 106 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,440 We can all do it, right? 107 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,120 I mean, I am the product of immigrant parents. 108 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,760 My parents came to this country as immigrants with very little in their pocket. 109 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:47,960 And they advised me to, like a lot of our parents, this is probably going to sound very 110 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,040 similar to a lot of the viewers out there. 111 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,600 My parents told me, go to school, get an education, get a good job. 112 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,680 You'll be taken care of all your life. 113 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,480 And a very powerful message. 114 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,520 And they supported me through that. 115 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,400 And I thought, okay, that's what I'll go do. 116 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,400 And that's what I did. 117 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,800 I went to school. 118 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,320 I got a good education. 119 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,080 I got a good job. 120 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,760 And I worked at that job for about four years. 121 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,120 And then I got laid off. 122 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:26,480 And that was never in the mantra that my parents shared with me. 123 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:32,640 For a young person, that was a eye-opening experience. 124 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:37,800 And that was my first awakening to say, I got to do something different. 125 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:38,800 And unfortunately, 126 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:39,800 Hold on. 127 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:40,800 You said a young person, right? 128 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,800 And you and me both, we get to talk about our 20s of being young too. 129 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,120 How old were you when you got laid off? 130 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:54,080 I was 20, 26, I think. 131 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,080 I think I was 26. 132 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,080 That's awesome. 133 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,080 Yeah, somewhere around there. 134 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,600 And you know, it's so strange. 135 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,080 I remember being 20s. 136 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,560 I think I remember being 26. 137 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,720 And around that time, you feel a little boxed in sometimes. 138 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,400 You feel like maybe I can't do something else. 139 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:16,400 I was at a lifetime fitness as a sales rep when this guy came in and wanted to buy membership 140 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,080 from me. 141 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,240 And it turned out he had won a Super Bowl with the St. Louis Rams. 142 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:30,880 He was, and then after he got out of the NFL, he went back to school at 42 years old to 143 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:31,880 become a dentist. 144 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,800 And people said he was crazy. 145 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:40,360 And then when I met him, he owned the nicest spa and recovery rehabilitation center for 146 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,080 athletes in San Antonio. 147 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,680 And I was like, I was 21. 148 00:08:44,680 --> 00:08:45,680 He took me to lunch. 149 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:53,400 He was teaching me about this because I have found that the people who are wealthy and genuine, 150 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,440 they want to spread the love. 151 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,440 They want to teach. 152 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,880 They want to share that abundance with others. 153 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,280 And it probably comes back. 154 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,960 So to rewind a little bit though, the struggle started before that. 155 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,880 We had other opportunities to learn about jobs, mowing lawns, doing paper routes, things 156 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:08,880 like that. 157 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:09,880 When did that start? 158 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,600 When did you start your hustle as a child? 159 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,440 Well I go back to my parents were immigrants. 160 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,800 So we weren't a wealthy family. 161 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:26,240 So that's something I press because a lot of us are in this situation. 162 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,160 I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth. 163 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,120 So it started when I was young. 164 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,920 I would actually deliver, I had a paper route. 165 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,960 When I was 14 years old, I got a paper route. 166 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,440 And I had that for two, two and a half years. 167 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,320 And I saved up money. 168 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,160 Every single dollar bill I saved to be able to buy my first car. 169 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,880 I had to buy it. 170 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,680 My parents, you know, sure they helped me out along the way, but I had to buy it. 171 00:09:56,680 --> 00:10:02,880 It was instilled in me at a very young age that I had to work hard to get the things 172 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,560 I wanted to get. 173 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:07,400 So yeah, it started back then. 174 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,520 Nothing was, what's the word today? 175 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,240 There was no entitlements. 176 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:19,240 I didn't just get money from my parents or just get money from the government to go to 177 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:24,760 school or I had to work several jobs to pay for my college. 178 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:31,080 So when I got out of college, I had an appreciation for my degree because I paid for it. 179 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:38,120 And I talk a lot about education and there's good and bad associated with college educations. 180 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,480 But I worked hard and it took me five years. 181 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,560 Actually, it took me five years to get through college. 182 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:47,480 So right there you can see I'm not a smart guy. 183 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:53,840 I took about four years to earn a four-year degree. 184 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:54,840 So yeah. 185 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Oh, man, Tony. 186 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,480 Well, what does that make me? 187 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:08,000 Because it took me two semesters to get a.33 GPA and realize college wasn't me. 188 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,880 And you're like, college isn't for everybody. 189 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,880 That's okay. 190 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:18,680 And you know, one of these things going on now is, you know, just the whole government 191 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:28,360 wanting to pay for student loans and kind of give everybody the okay to go to college. 192 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:36,280 I don't think there's a lot of right with doing that because it sends the wrong message. 193 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,800 It's like everybody needs to go to college. 194 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,200 And if you don't go to college, you know, you're a lesser person. 195 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,760 You know, I treat my plumber and the guy who mows the lawn and the roof. 196 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:51,960 I treat everybody the same as I do my CPA, as I do my financial advisors, right? 197 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,520 I treat everybody with the same dignity and respect. 198 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:55,520 Good morning. 199 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:56,520 How are you? 200 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:57,520 How's the wife? 201 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:58,520 How's the kids? 202 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,520 How's the family? 203 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:00,520 Right? 204 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,520 Everybody. 205 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:07,080 And it seems like sometimes the government tries to put down the blue collar labor as 206 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,480 a lesser class. 207 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:09,880 And that's not good. 208 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:10,880 That's not right. 209 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,880 And it's not healthy. 210 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:12,880 Right, either. 211 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,080 And you know, it's funny. 212 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,840 I grew up in, you know, two different homes, one where there was a silver spoon, but we 213 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,920 were emotionally beaten with it. 214 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:28,160 And the other where we did not have silver spoons, but I was, you know, I had five older 215 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,560 sisters and my mom and they took care. 216 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:31,560 They coddled me. 217 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:33,080 You know, they loved me. 218 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,200 So I didn't know what hard work looked like. 219 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,000 And I grew up with the law of the microwave. 220 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:46,440 You know, microwave was my best friend all the way through, throughout the time I was 221 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,440 19 years old. 222 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:53,200 It wasn't until then where I started to really think about, you know what, like all this 223 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:58,240 quick access to easy, you know, the, yeah, I could go get a job at Sonic or something 224 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:03,520 and I pretended to work hard and I felt like I was really getting after it. 225 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:10,400 But there's a lot of depression that comes from a life of not working hard. 226 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,960 There's a lot of lost purpose that occurs. 227 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,480 There's a lot of realizing, wait a second, I might be robbing myself of things of my 228 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,360 future and it's, it's good when you have people in your life who can point that out and help 229 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,120 you get on track, but you remind me of the law of the harvest, right? 230 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,080 You did five years to learn, learn it. 231 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,880 Well, you, you were cultivating, you were building and you've taken advantage of opportunities 232 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:37,640 and I'm glad that I got on that train eventually because we live in a society right now where 233 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:43,680 people are adverse to, to a degree of hard work and a diligence where they almost feel 234 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:46,360 like you should not work hard. 235 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,040 And I don't, I don't want to condemn those individuals. 236 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:54,680 I don't, I want to help open their eyes because what's the person who's suffering in that 237 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:56,600 equation is not me. 238 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,400 You know, I don't, I don't have to go eat a fast food. 239 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,640 I can go get food wherever I want. 240 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,760 You know, I'm not going to wait there at McDonald's while somebody doesn't take care of me. 241 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,920 I'm going to, I'm going to go make my fast food a different way or order out. 242 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,880 So how do we inspire people? 243 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,400 How do we do that to inspire people to take on the principles of the law of the harvest? 244 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,400 What goes into that? 245 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,640 It is, it is difficult. 246 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,960 I'm not going to lie. 247 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:32,000 One of the biggest challenges I have is getting folks to take action. 248 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,280 And sometimes it's just taking small, low baby steps. 249 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:41,000 I've had this conversation with neuroscientists. 250 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:49,000 I've had this conversation with, you know, very, very powerful international speakers 251 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,040 who are on stage trying to encourage folks to take action. 252 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:58,240 I've had these conversations where I share with them, I have trouble getting folks to 253 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,400 take action. 254 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:07,240 And I guess the good news is that they have the same. 255 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,200 They've experienced the same. 256 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,320 And it really comes down to the individual. 257 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:20,240 The individual needs to be in a, in a space, mind space, physical space where they can 258 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,800 take action and they're ready to take action. 259 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:29,280 I had a lot of, as I call it, highs in my life, good moments in my life, but I've also 260 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,240 had a lot of lows in my life. 261 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,560 Getting laid off was just one of them. 262 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:43,120 And so I think people sometimes need to experience those lows in their life to jolt them to take 263 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,360 action. 264 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:53,000 And unfortunately, to a degree, that's just the reality of it. 265 00:15:53,000 --> 00:16:00,680 Outside of that, I do as much as I can to encourage people because I do, I do a lot 266 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:05,040 of research, you know, we've had these conversations, I do a ton of research. 267 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:12,440 I speak with a lot of very, very smart people who are educating me on what's coming down 268 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,160 the pipeline for society and civilization. 269 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,880 And unfortunately, it's not a tremendously rosy picture. 270 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,560 I don't like to go negative. 271 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,240 I don't like to preach doom and gloom. 272 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,560 That's not my goal. 273 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,120 My goal is to educate people. 274 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:37,120 And that's why each and every day I coach, I do YouTube videos, I create content. 275 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,680 You know, reason why I wrote the book is because I'm trying to reach so many different people 276 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,840 to be able to encourage them in some way. 277 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:52,800 Read a book, watch YouTube videos, do something, take some small action to better your lives. 278 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,520 I love that. 279 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,920 And Jaime is actually going to be pulling up the book so we can see what it looks like. 280 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,280 He'll be pulling up the YouTube channel as well, which I love the branding that you have 281 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,280 on there, by the way. 282 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,240 It really, it made it easy for us to kind of piggyback some components of your designs 283 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,880 to start that portfolio that we worked on. 284 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,920 And you know, so does just the inspiration of knowing that the person we're working with 285 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,040 is centered on their purpose, right? 286 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,240 And then you're out there doing so much good for others. 287 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,560 That's what we're always looking for on our end. 288 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,960 Now, with this, we talked about another thing. 289 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:27,960 We talked about propaganda. 290 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,200 I want to circle back to it. 291 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,640 We talked about critical thinking skills and that being a big key. 292 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:38,200 Everybody who's listening right now, as Jaime pointed out earlier in his comment, he said, 293 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,160 surround yourself with the right people. 294 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:47,560 I am a huge believer of that concept because the right people can inspire you to take the 295 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,800 right types of actions and they can teach you how to think through things. 296 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,360 And we're never done learning how to think. 297 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:59,520 We've got to maximize our capabilities to think through our scenarios in order to protect 298 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:04,320 ourselves and not be a victim of our environments. 299 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,640 You know, that's hard to admit. 300 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,240 But in all truth, we're all victims of our environments. 301 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,680 There's not a single person who can escape that. 302 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:19,800 You know, and an example of that is if a hurricane hit right now where I'm at, or rather a tornado 303 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:25,640 hit right now in the spot where I met, or an atom bomb hit right where I'm at, guess 304 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,640 what? 305 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,160 I am a victim of the environment. 306 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,680 I can't escape that reality, right? 307 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,560 I have to accept to some degree I will always be a victim. 308 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:43,240 But do I make excuses for areas of my life, or perhaps I'm not a victim, and have more 309 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,040 control over escaping it? 310 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,720 What are your thoughts on that, Tony? 311 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:55,440 Well, I thought what you said was very powerful in terms of, you know, your greatness stems 312 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,240 from those that you surround yourself with. 313 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:04,880 I don't even know if you realize how incredibly powerful that is. 314 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:10,840 So I have to have people around me that support me. 315 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:17,040 And likewise, I recognize that in a lot of other very successful people recognize that, 316 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,040 right? 317 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,640 I know I'm not the smartest one, you know, at the table. 318 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,640 I get it. 319 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,640 I'm not. 320 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,760 It took me five years to get through a four-year program. 321 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,760 Remember that. 322 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:36,480 But, you know, so, you know, again, just the stuff, I want the viewers to understand the 323 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,600 immense value that they get from you. 324 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:47,600 And what I'm going to share right now is, I think, you know, gives the perspective. 325 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:53,480 I coach with my clients, my students, I coach with them. 326 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,520 And I've always gone through what I've described as my three-by-five plan. 327 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:07,040 And it revolves around, you know, the slogan of, your net worth is a result of your net 328 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,040 work, right? 329 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,040 Yes. 330 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:15,560 And so I go through on a very detailed basis what I call my three-by-five plan, where I 331 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:22,520 say on a day, week, or monthly basis, who are the five people you're interacting with 332 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,520 on a daily basis? 333 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,560 Who are the five people you're working with on a weekly basis? 334 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,920 And who are the five people you're interacting with on a monthly basis, right? 335 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,640 So that's my three-by-five plan. 336 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,520 And I do it, whether you have a business or whether you have a, you're looking to get 337 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:43,880 started with a new business or with real estate, you know, who are those people you're surrounding 338 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,560 yourself with on a day, week, and monthly basis? 339 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:53,500 And this has been incredibly powerful for folks to surround themselves with very powerful 340 00:20:53,500 --> 00:20:54,500 people. 341 00:20:54,500 --> 00:20:59,960 If they don't have them, we go find them, we create them, we get them thinking a little 342 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:04,480 differently than how they may have been taught in school or maybe taught at home. 343 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,360 We want them to think in a very more powerful way. 344 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:14,720 And so back to what you're doing and the value you're creating, I used to do that one-on-one 345 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,640 with folks to be able to help them. 346 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:23,640 I just recently posted that video to my YouTube channel for free. 347 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,360 Which video? 348 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:29,440 It's on my YouTube channel. 349 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,160 It's one of the more recent ones. 350 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:38,120 I have like almost 146 videos out there and things, but it's one of my more recent ones. 351 00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:42,320 Your network, your net worth is your network or your net worth is your net worth. 352 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,320 Awesome. 353 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,360 We'll grab the link and we'll make sure to drop it in the comments afterwards for the 354 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:47,620 viewers too. 355 00:21:47,620 --> 00:21:53,720 But it goes back to, you know, you're trying to help people. 356 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,600 I'm trying to help people. 357 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:04,880 What we need folks to do is understand today that we have a tremendous amount of free content 358 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,160 being provided out there that is so valuable. 359 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:17,040 You just need to absorb it and watch it or read it or go to a website. 360 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,400 You need to take that action. 361 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,400 YouTube is free. 362 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,360 You don't have to pay for any of those videos. 363 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:25,840 I'm not asking you to give me money. 364 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,280 Jackson's not asking the viewers to give him money. 365 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,040 This is all free content that we're all just trying to help each other with. 366 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,040 I don't make a buck. 367 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,520 Jackson isn't paying me to be here. 368 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,480 I don't pay him to do what he does. 369 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,280 He does it because he's a good guy and he wants to see people be very successful. 370 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,480 So it's just trying to get that message across. 371 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:53,160 It's like, you know, I share with folks. 372 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,600 It's amazing sometimes the thought process that I come against. 373 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,040 You know, I go to a lot of conferences and meet people. 374 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:06,640 And one of the things I hear occasionally are, Tony, why are you going to that conference? 375 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,760 You know, they're just going to try to sell you on a program or sell you on a course or 376 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,360 sell you on this. 377 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:17,520 And I'm like, you know, and some of them are put on by real estate experts. 378 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,960 And a lot of folks know like Robert Kiyosaki. 379 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,520 So Robert Kiyosaki will be at these events. 380 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:29,080 And I'm like, do you think Robert Kiyosaki really needs Tony Lopes's money? 381 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,080 He doesn't. 382 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,720 He doesn't care if Tony is there or not. 383 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:41,120 So Robert Kiyosaki is not at these events educating and helping people to think different 384 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:42,520 because he needs more money. 385 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:43,520 He doesn't. 386 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,800 He doesn't need their money. 387 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,680 And I can tell you, he doesn't. 388 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,520 So I think folks just need to get out of their own way and just think that, you know, stop 389 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,840 thinking that that that victim mentality, you know, that somebody's trying to make a buck 390 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,720 off of me and somebody's trying to step on me. 391 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,720 Right. 392 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,080 And I mean, at the end of the day, when it comes to something like that or an investment 393 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,640 of mine, I have to also be aware of thinking about the return on investment. 394 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,640 Right. 395 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,840 So it's not to say that Robert doesn't make money. 396 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,920 If you don't have very good listening skills, you're hearing Tony say that Robert doesn't 397 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,920 try to make money. 398 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,920 Right. 399 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,120 If you, or that he's not going to make any money, but you're purchasing his books. 400 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:27,120 That's not what Tony is saying. 401 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:28,120 Right. 402 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:33,960 But some of us have these mental baggages where we react internally to what is said 403 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,120 versus listening to understand. 404 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:37,120 Right. 405 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:40,560 So we have to take a step back from it as human beings and say, you know what, I'm not 406 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,280 going to let my emotions get the best of me here. 407 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,520 I'm going to try to understand and ask questions about what the heck does that mean? 408 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,480 So that doesn't mean that Jackson doesn't make money. 409 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,760 That also never, doesn't mean that I will never invest in Tony either. 410 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,000 He's on my hot list. 411 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,000 Right. 412 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,680 I am looking very forward to getting to the point where my real estate portfolio expands 413 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,800 and where I get to that point where I'm like, Hey Tony, how do we do things together on 414 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,800 this? 415 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,340 You know, how can I rope in your attention and time on this? 416 00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:12,560 Not because he won't give it, but there's a certain honor that exists. 417 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,640 There's a certain timing, right? 418 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,080 That we all choose how we follow it, whether we listen to our heart or our mind or the 419 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:26,000 alcohol or something else that influences us to make our decisions, you know, or the news, 420 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,000 right? 421 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:33,360 Alcohol may not even be as strong these days as Fox news and CNN in terms of influencing 422 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:37,280 and brainwashing people and into what they should think and how they should feel. 423 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,280 I'm sorry. 424 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,280 I love, I love getting news from all sources, but I'm not trying to hurt you. 425 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:48,160 I'm trying to open your eyes, open your minds, open your hearts to realizing that critical 426 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:56,240 thinking skills, can and should be constantly developed according to level, which you play 427 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,240 at. 428 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,200 And Tony talked about a level that I call the paid to play level, right? 429 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,800 When I'm going to a conference and I invest in that conference. 430 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:13,960 I know that the people who go to that conference I pay for are going to be at a different level 431 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,280 than when I go to a conference that is free. 432 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,760 And therefore the conversations are going to be of higher quality. 433 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,840 The types of activities that are quality. 434 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:30,480 It's a very important opportunity, not something that we, we want to, that I ever think of 435 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,060 myself as a victim of investing in that opportunity to learn. 436 00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:41,160 So let's talk about critical thinking and propaganda, finding truth, you know, and understanding 437 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,480 that there's an opportunity to gain. 438 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,640 What is happening right now? 439 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,080 What are some of the tactics, Tony, so we can start recognizing those that are utilized 440 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:55,800 and mainstream influence that keeps people from seeing and hearing truth? 441 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:07,800 Yeah, so the politicians are the experts at it and following them is the media. 442 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,320 And it goes back a long time. 443 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:19,800 This propaganda did not just happen overnight or in the last two years since COVID. 444 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,320 This has been happening for a long time. 445 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:30,060 And it goes back actually, it goes back to the days of Lucky Strike. 446 00:27:30,060 --> 00:27:31,860 Do you remember those cigarettes? 447 00:27:31,860 --> 00:27:34,020 They used to be called, they were called Lucky Strike. 448 00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:38,640 I don't know if they exist anymore, but it's a story that goes like this. 449 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:45,380 So Lucky Strike was peaked out at their revenue and their profits. 450 00:27:45,380 --> 00:27:46,600 They were peaked out. 451 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:55,180 So they brought in a guy to help them with their marketing and this guy looked at their 452 00:27:55,180 --> 00:28:02,220 marketing plan and he said, well, you're only advertising to half your market, your marketing 453 00:28:02,220 --> 00:28:06,980 to men, you're not marketing to women. 454 00:28:06,980 --> 00:28:14,500 And so he developed for Lucky Strike, he developed a marketing campaign which allowed Lucky Strike 455 00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:19,620 to double their sales, double their revenue, double their profits. 456 00:28:19,620 --> 00:28:23,860 And it's all through marketing. 457 00:28:23,860 --> 00:28:30,700 And it was described as that it was during the days where women were looking to get more 458 00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:35,140 more liberation, voting rights, things like that, all goodness. 459 00:28:35,140 --> 00:28:42,820 But he used the campaign of the cigarette being a freedom torch. 460 00:28:42,820 --> 00:28:47,660 And so that took hold and was very successful. 461 00:28:47,660 --> 00:28:59,820 But the politicians took notice of this individual, this marketing pioneer and hired this marketer. 462 00:28:59,820 --> 00:29:05,860 They hired him for their own political agenda. 463 00:29:05,860 --> 00:29:10,860 And he went on to be very successful working with politicians. 464 00:29:10,860 --> 00:29:18,700 He ultimately ended up writing the book titled, appropriately so titled, Propaganda. 465 00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:22,780 And so he knows Propaganda well. 466 00:29:22,780 --> 00:29:31,660 And so the politicians latched on to him and ever since have continued to use Propaganda 467 00:29:31,660 --> 00:29:38,140 through marketing campaigns to shape how we think, to shape our belief system and how 468 00:29:38,140 --> 00:29:39,980 we also act. 469 00:29:39,980 --> 00:29:45,620 And in many ways how we act when we go to the voting booths. 470 00:29:45,620 --> 00:29:47,660 So you see a lot of things going on. 471 00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:51,740 We spoke about student loan forgiveness. 472 00:29:51,740 --> 00:29:59,220 And to a large degree, that that's a campaign that they are using, they are weaponizing, 473 00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:08,860 some would say, to act upon us so that when we go to the booths, voting booths, we vote 474 00:30:08,860 --> 00:30:16,180 a certain way because many young people, they look at student loan forgiveness as a good 475 00:30:16,180 --> 00:30:18,740 thing and that's going to help them. 476 00:30:18,740 --> 00:30:23,820 So they're going to vote a certain way for those particular politicians who are endorsing 477 00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:25,380 student loan forgiveness. 478 00:30:25,380 --> 00:30:31,660 But that's only one way they are weaponizing the... 479 00:30:31,660 --> 00:30:40,420 Well, and this tactic, right, so there's a tactic of a 0% interest loan with the asterisk, 480 00:30:40,420 --> 00:30:41,420 asterisk, asterisk. 481 00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:51,380 And most of society does not have the discipline or the algebra skills to understand that if 482 00:30:51,380 --> 00:30:52,380 you don't... 483 00:30:52,380 --> 00:30:54,940 And I'm not talking about you, you people listening, you guys might have it. 484 00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:57,460 I'm not trying to say that society is bad. 485 00:30:57,460 --> 00:31:02,540 What I'm trying to say is if we do not teach the society who does not understand the tactic 486 00:31:02,540 --> 00:31:08,820 and who does not understand the math, how to avoid becoming victims of such plans, such 487 00:31:08,820 --> 00:31:16,300 propaganda, they will end up making investments or decisions that are contrary to what it 488 00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:19,860 is they actually wanted as their outcome. 489 00:31:19,860 --> 00:31:24,260 And so what I hear you saying in this one political instance I've seen done in a lot 490 00:31:24,260 --> 00:31:29,260 of political instances, are you saying that sometimes the politicians will put a fancy 491 00:31:29,260 --> 00:31:36,340 title that plays the emotions on a specific law or a specific regulation or series thereof 492 00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:40,460 and they might put some things in there that you didn't agree to and didn't want, but they 493 00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:43,620 put it under the guise of something that you did want? 494 00:31:43,620 --> 00:31:50,260 Yeah, you're absolutely right. 495 00:31:50,260 --> 00:31:57,460 We need to start flexing our critical thinking muscles, like you had mentioned earlier. 496 00:31:57,460 --> 00:32:00,260 We need to flex those more and more. 497 00:32:00,260 --> 00:32:04,220 It's more important today to do that than ever before. 498 00:32:04,220 --> 00:32:10,660 In those fancy titles that they put in front of some of these bills, some of this legislation 499 00:32:10,660 --> 00:32:17,220 like the Inflation Reduction Act, where they just end up creating more money to put into 500 00:32:17,220 --> 00:32:21,900 the system that actually will increase inflation. 501 00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:22,900 Let's look at that. 502 00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:28,580 So the Inflation Reduction Act, are you saying that it's possible that human beings who have 503 00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:36,140 their own motives and desires might possibly think, oh, people know that inflation reduction 504 00:32:36,140 --> 00:32:40,500 is good, so I'm going to vote for that no matter what? 505 00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:42,380 Are you saying that happens? 506 00:32:42,380 --> 00:32:43,380 That happens. 507 00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:47,740 And it's so, we see it time and time again. 508 00:32:47,740 --> 00:32:58,060 Bill comes to the floor of Congress or the Senate, and it's a 5,000-page bill, and they're 509 00:32:58,060 --> 00:33:00,340 voting on it the very next day. 510 00:33:00,340 --> 00:33:02,900 So let's talk about the solution on this too, though, Tony. 511 00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:04,780 I want to hear from you. 512 00:33:04,780 --> 00:33:11,860 What do I need to do as a responsible citizen and freedom seeker and wealth seeker, to be 513 00:33:11,860 --> 00:33:15,300 able to recognize what's truth and what's not then? 514 00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:20,060 Because I think if you empower the audience with the tools of critical thinking, what 515 00:33:20,060 --> 00:33:25,380 goes into that, some people just did not pick that concept up in their five years or four 516 00:33:25,380 --> 00:33:28,260 years or nonyears of university and beyond. 517 00:33:28,260 --> 00:33:33,740 So one thing I'll say is, I have to have references. 518 00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:34,740 I have to. 519 00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:38,300 Multiple references that do not associate with each other. 520 00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:43,500 I need to know that this person who's atheist and this person who's Christian and this person 521 00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:50,700 who doesn't know either of them and is a business person, and I have to look around and see 522 00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:54,580 who all is talking about this and from what angles are they talking about it? 523 00:33:54,580 --> 00:33:57,620 I can't just take somebody's word for it. 524 00:33:57,620 --> 00:33:59,860 This is not, I won't allow myself to. 525 00:33:59,860 --> 00:34:06,100 It's a barrier for me to avoid falling victim of toxicity or ignorance. 526 00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:12,100 Yeah, and it's a critical thinking muscle. 527 00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:16,620 And as we know, much like when we go to the gym, we're not going to be there on day one 528 00:34:16,620 --> 00:34:19,820 or day five or day 10. 529 00:34:19,820 --> 00:34:26,620 It takes time to develop these skills such that when you read an article and you might 530 00:34:26,620 --> 00:34:32,660 just take it at face value when you first read it, but as you develop these thoughts 531 00:34:32,660 --> 00:34:40,100 and this process of thinking, you start to unwind things and you start doing just exactly 532 00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:45,580 like you're talking about Jackson Jackson, you start going to alternate sources. 533 00:34:45,580 --> 00:34:50,340 You start reading maybe some different articles or watching some different YouTube videos 534 00:34:50,340 --> 00:34:54,500 or find yourself searching like I many times do. 535 00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:57,460 We're starting to hear a lot about central bank digital currency. 536 00:34:57,460 --> 00:34:58,460 Is that good? 537 00:34:58,460 --> 00:34:59,460 Is that bad? 538 00:34:59,460 --> 00:35:01,140 Well, there's a lot of people out there saying that's good. 539 00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:02,820 That's the way of the future. 540 00:35:02,820 --> 00:35:05,740 But how is that going to impact me? 541 00:35:05,740 --> 00:35:15,620 So I'm doing deep dives, not only which accessible to all your viewers, go to YouTube. 542 00:35:15,620 --> 00:35:19,020 Start watching YouTube videos on central bank digital currency. 543 00:35:19,020 --> 00:35:20,500 And from there, you'll get good. 544 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,660 Let me be clear to you, Tony. 545 00:35:22,660 --> 00:35:26,500 Make sure you go to the right sources to watch these things. 546 00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:31,100 And I know that sounds like, well, that's a general statement, but how do you do that? 547 00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:33,620 Watch for certain words too. 548 00:35:33,620 --> 00:35:40,660 If somebody uses a lot of pressure on you to make a decision, that person is somebody 549 00:35:40,660 --> 00:35:42,940 that I have a boundary against. 550 00:35:42,940 --> 00:35:44,540 Like I don't need that person. 551 00:35:44,540 --> 00:35:49,860 Oh, I mean, they're influence or if somebody is saying everybody knows this or everybody 552 00:35:49,860 --> 00:35:54,580 does this, that's a hyperbolic statement that isolates you. 553 00:35:54,580 --> 00:35:58,540 If you feel different, makes you feel weak and vulnerable and makes you want to jump 554 00:35:58,540 --> 00:35:59,540 on the track. 555 00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:03,140 I don't, I don't subscribe to people of that nature. 556 00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:07,980 And then there's the people like Tony, who are willing to be open or willing to be friendly, 557 00:36:07,980 --> 00:36:11,420 who are willing to say, take another look, feel free to research this yourself. 558 00:36:11,420 --> 00:36:14,380 And that can sometimes be used as a tactic as well. 559 00:36:14,380 --> 00:36:15,380 Right. 560 00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:19,860 The higher you get up the totem pole of influence, the more you realize like, wow, you can really 561 00:36:19,860 --> 00:36:20,860 be tricked here. 562 00:36:20,860 --> 00:36:25,420 But guys, I'm telling you right now, Tony is one of my favorite people to turn to for 563 00:36:25,420 --> 00:36:30,780 financial advice in these matters, because I know how hard he studies and I know what 564 00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:31,980 he cares about. 565 00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:33,340 I know who he cares about. 566 00:36:33,340 --> 00:36:38,400 I know how well he cared about me and cares about me by the way that our interactions 567 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,400 continue to go. 568 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,620 And it's so important to surround yourself with people who genuinely care about you and 569 00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:46,140 genuinely do their research. 570 00:36:46,140 --> 00:36:49,980 So Tony, feel free to keep going on the thread you're on. 571 00:36:49,980 --> 00:36:55,820 I think where you are in terms of, be careful who you listen to. 572 00:36:55,820 --> 00:36:58,540 I'll give you my example. 573 00:36:58,540 --> 00:37:05,260 There are, and I research central bank digital currency, but I also research cryptocurrencies 574 00:37:05,260 --> 00:37:06,260 to some degree. 575 00:37:06,260 --> 00:37:07,260 I'm not an expert. 576 00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:10,140 I don't ever pretend to be an expert. 577 00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:11,620 I'm always a student. 578 00:37:11,620 --> 00:37:15,340 I'm always learning, trying to seek new information. 579 00:37:15,340 --> 00:37:17,420 That's the true sign of an expert. 580 00:37:17,420 --> 00:37:26,100 I don't know if I'll ever get there, but I see some and your listeners, the viewers 581 00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:28,380 out there are going to resonate with this. 582 00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:35,100 When you find somebody that is such a fanatic, in this case on Bitcoin, I find so many people 583 00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:39,500 that are so fanatic about Bitcoin. 584 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:44,260 It's difficult to have a conversation with them, like Jackson was saying, to talk about 585 00:37:44,260 --> 00:37:45,860 the pros and cons. 586 00:37:45,860 --> 00:37:48,260 They're only ever going to throw the pros at you. 587 00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:50,380 They're never going to see the cons. 588 00:37:50,380 --> 00:37:52,300 They have their blinders on. 589 00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:54,300 That's not a conversation I want to have. 590 00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:59,020 I want to be able to have that higher level or that different thought, not even higher 591 00:37:59,020 --> 00:38:01,900 level, but just be able to see both sides of the coin. 592 00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:07,300 This is actually one thing that I did learn from Robert Kiyosaki. 593 00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:15,820 I share it with a lot of folks, a lot of stuff that I share freely because it's so powerful. 594 00:38:15,820 --> 00:38:22,420 And not for nothing, like you had up there on the screen a moment ago, pay to play. 595 00:38:22,420 --> 00:38:31,060 I speak with a lot of people freely to get advice and just different thoughts and systems 596 00:38:31,060 --> 00:38:32,060 going on. 597 00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:33,340 I go to a lot of conferences. 598 00:38:33,340 --> 00:38:39,620 I'm basically at a conference once a month to at least be able to. 599 00:38:39,620 --> 00:38:46,780 So I'm paying to get a bigger network, more thought leaders in front of me, more conversations. 600 00:38:46,780 --> 00:38:51,020 I also pay substantially to be part of a mastermind group. 601 00:38:51,020 --> 00:38:56,540 Now, I'm not saying everybody needs to join a mastermind, but I joined one because I felt 602 00:38:56,540 --> 00:39:02,540 it was important for me to have some different thoughts, some stimulation in a different 603 00:39:02,540 --> 00:39:10,740 way to be able to expand my knowledge and expand how I think and how I see the world 604 00:39:10,740 --> 00:39:13,860 and how I see, create my own opinion. 605 00:39:13,860 --> 00:39:15,100 Okay. 606 00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:21,340 I don't want to just hang on the words and recycle the words that I saw someplace or 607 00:39:21,340 --> 00:39:22,540 I heard on YouTube. 608 00:39:22,540 --> 00:39:25,300 I don't want to just recycle that. 609 00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:29,380 I want to be able to make it my own in terms of how I see things. 610 00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:33,540 And so now when I coach folks, it's a lot of folks. 611 00:39:33,540 --> 00:39:34,540 It's amazing. 612 00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:35,900 I have a lot of fun with people. 613 00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:37,060 Yes, we do. 614 00:39:37,060 --> 00:39:45,220 Folks will be like, because I do primarily real estate coaching, they'll just want the 615 00:39:45,220 --> 00:39:47,660 answer. 616 00:39:47,660 --> 00:39:49,220 That's like 100% of the time. 617 00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:50,700 Tony, tell me the answer. 618 00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:52,020 Tell me what to do. 619 00:39:52,020 --> 00:39:53,020 And I'll just go do that. 620 00:39:53,020 --> 00:39:55,980 And I'm like, it's not that easy. 621 00:39:55,980 --> 00:40:00,500 The answer is different for everybody. 622 00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:03,420 And so I just don't give the answer. 623 00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:08,580 If people are looking for the answer, then I'm the wrong coach for them. 624 00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:09,580 It's a process. 625 00:40:09,580 --> 00:40:12,060 I want to teach you how to fish. 626 00:40:12,060 --> 00:40:16,660 I want to strengthen your critical thinking muscles. 627 00:40:16,660 --> 00:40:21,340 I want to strengthen your real estate investor muscles. 628 00:40:21,340 --> 00:40:23,700 I don't want to just give you the answer. 629 00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:25,940 That's doing you a disservice. 630 00:40:25,940 --> 00:40:28,740 So we will struggle through that. 631 00:40:28,740 --> 00:40:29,820 And that's OK. 632 00:40:29,820 --> 00:40:30,820 We'll struggle through it. 633 00:40:30,820 --> 00:40:35,700 But at the end of the day, you're going to be more powerful and just a better person, 634 00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:38,380 better investor at the end of the day. 635 00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:40,580 So I don't know where I was going with that. 636 00:40:40,580 --> 00:40:41,580 Oh, I love that. 637 00:40:41,580 --> 00:40:46,060 Well, we're talking about developing these critical thinking skills. 638 00:40:46,060 --> 00:40:55,860 It can be difficult to talk through the process of how to do that while also empowering people 639 00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:57,940 to find their own answer. 640 00:40:57,940 --> 00:41:02,020 That's ultimately what you're striving to do in this call where you and I are talking, 641 00:41:02,020 --> 00:41:04,620 but the person, the learner is not present. 642 00:41:04,620 --> 00:41:09,940 The learners are all at different levels of this equation. 643 00:41:09,940 --> 00:41:16,100 The person, the audience is listening to needs. 644 00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:17,100 Yeah. 645 00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:18,100 Yeah. 646 00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:19,620 Everybody's at different levels. 647 00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:27,020 And I don't work to just go in at my level and start pontificating or talking about certain 648 00:41:27,020 --> 00:41:28,020 things. 649 00:41:28,020 --> 00:41:29,020 That doesn't work. 650 00:41:29,020 --> 00:41:34,060 When I start either coaching folks or trying to have some conversation with them, I try 651 00:41:34,060 --> 00:41:35,660 to meet them where they are. 652 00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:37,700 I think that's incredibly important. 653 00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:45,580 And that's another sign in terms of, again, I'll go back to the Bitcoin example, because 654 00:41:45,580 --> 00:41:48,220 that one is so prevalent. 655 00:41:48,220 --> 00:41:54,620 Some of those folks will just want to take you where they are already. 656 00:41:54,620 --> 00:42:01,340 As opposed to meeting you, where you are, understanding where you are, where your perspectives, 657 00:42:01,340 --> 00:42:05,820 where your thought and your beliefs are at, and then helping bring you along. 658 00:42:05,820 --> 00:42:13,940 I'm not looking to brainwash anybody, but there's a path to helping people come to where 659 00:42:13,940 --> 00:42:15,540 they need to be. 660 00:42:15,540 --> 00:42:19,060 And you can't just say, be here. 661 00:42:19,060 --> 00:42:20,420 It just doesn't work that way. 662 00:42:20,420 --> 00:42:27,620 It takes time to bring them along, to educate them, to, again, create and strengthen those 663 00:42:27,620 --> 00:42:31,380 critical muscles that they need to have. 664 00:42:31,380 --> 00:42:33,140 So that's right. 665 00:42:33,140 --> 00:42:39,780 And some of us, those of us who are a bit more feminine in nature, get caught up in our 666 00:42:39,780 --> 00:42:40,780 emotions. 667 00:42:40,780 --> 00:42:43,100 It tends to be the case and that. 668 00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:44,580 And what does that? 669 00:42:44,580 --> 00:42:47,420 Sometimes it's the music involved. 670 00:42:47,420 --> 00:42:51,460 Sometimes it's the fun that's involved, the energy that's involved. 671 00:42:51,460 --> 00:42:58,300 And energy and fun and music can all be fabricated or can create a reality that's not quite there. 672 00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:03,020 I'm going to adjust the position, Grant Cardone and you. 673 00:43:03,020 --> 00:43:05,420 And I've participated in both programs. 674 00:43:05,420 --> 00:43:07,060 Same thing with Robert Kisaki. 675 00:43:07,060 --> 00:43:10,380 And Robert Kisaki, I love, by the way, he's probably going to come up in almost every 676 00:43:10,380 --> 00:43:13,500 episode that we do at Vision Pros. 677 00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:18,740 And the, but Grant Cardone's program, when I went through and was listening to how he 678 00:43:18,740 --> 00:43:22,740 pitches the REI stuff, because I'm just, I'm not a fan of the tactics, but I wanted to 679 00:43:22,740 --> 00:43:28,380 learn from this scenario because he's obviously got a degree of success from self. 680 00:43:28,380 --> 00:43:29,380 Right. 681 00:43:29,380 --> 00:43:31,940 He's obviously able to get massive attraction out there. 682 00:43:31,940 --> 00:43:34,780 And you know what he reminds me of is Bruno Mars. 683 00:43:34,780 --> 00:43:41,100 Bruno Mars came out with this song that became very popular called Today I Don't Want to 684 00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:43,100 Do Anything. 685 00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:45,460 I'm not going to do anything at all. 686 00:43:45,460 --> 00:43:46,460 Right. 687 00:43:46,460 --> 00:43:49,340 So here he is singing this song about not doing anything. 688 00:43:49,340 --> 00:43:54,740 And this is a man who outworks the entire music industry. 689 00:43:54,740 --> 00:43:55,740 Yeah. 690 00:43:55,740 --> 00:44:00,060 He, the, the coordination they had for the music video associated with it too. 691 00:44:00,060 --> 00:44:02,820 I went and looked it up because I was so frustrated about the song. 692 00:44:02,820 --> 00:44:08,380 The fact that not only does he disrespect his audience so bad that he puts garbage out. 693 00:44:08,380 --> 00:44:16,980 He puts garbage out that lies about what he does for a living and as a lifestyle because 694 00:44:16,980 --> 00:44:22,860 he knows that people are sheeple enough to follow and buy it. 695 00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:24,980 And it makes me cringe. 696 00:44:24,980 --> 00:44:27,500 It makes me sad for that audience. 697 00:44:27,500 --> 00:44:34,660 It makes me feel like, wow, like how inauthentic can you get in the process of also making 698 00:44:34,660 --> 00:44:38,660 sure it's easy, it's easy money to take advantage of that. 699 00:44:38,660 --> 00:44:42,740 But I don't see how somebody can sit well and sleep well on that. 700 00:44:42,740 --> 00:44:49,300 And you know, Grant Cardone, back to that one more time, I saw, I was, we sat for two and 701 00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:53,820 a half hours through this really crappy presentation of, I'm going to get to it and I'm going to 702 00:44:53,820 --> 00:44:55,340 tell you in a, yeah, we're going to get there. 703 00:44:55,340 --> 00:44:57,700 Let me give you a little bit of fact that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. 704 00:44:57,700 --> 00:45:00,700 Let me talk about this and a little fact about something that has nothing to do with 705 00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:01,700 what I'm talking about. 706 00:45:01,700 --> 00:45:03,780 And oh man, you better know all that about taxes or you're not going to get it. 707 00:45:03,780 --> 00:45:05,340 We're going to talk about that in all just a minute. 708 00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:07,020 Oh man, I can't wait to drop this value bomb. 709 00:45:07,020 --> 00:45:08,900 Oh my goodness. 710 00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:14,180 I could not believe he laid nothing of value down. 711 00:45:14,180 --> 00:45:16,340 And it's hard to do. 712 00:45:16,340 --> 00:45:22,860 It's hard to lay nothing of value down for an audience for two and a half hours while 713 00:45:22,860 --> 00:45:28,140 entertaining and feel, I don't know how your heart would feel after something like that. 714 00:45:28,140 --> 00:45:35,660 I love the man as a human being and I cannot stand the tactics or the methods. 715 00:45:35,660 --> 00:45:41,020 Again, juxtapositioning that to Tony and I met. 716 00:45:41,020 --> 00:45:44,740 He treated me like an equal, like a friend right away. 717 00:45:44,740 --> 00:45:46,460 We had great conversations. 718 00:45:46,460 --> 00:45:50,580 He made sure to make super space for my level and where I was. 719 00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:55,220 And I eventually got his email about a real estate deal. 720 00:45:55,220 --> 00:46:01,460 And in that email, I got to see a video of him and a few other real estate investors 721 00:46:01,460 --> 00:46:05,500 who are not REI people throwing that title on their Facebook thing just because everybody's 722 00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:07,180 doing it right now. 723 00:46:07,180 --> 00:46:09,780 The real estate investors are everywhere right now. 724 00:46:09,780 --> 00:46:10,780 Nope. 725 00:46:10,780 --> 00:46:13,820 They're video and a matter of 10 minutes. 726 00:46:13,820 --> 00:46:18,980 In fact, in a matter of two minutes, I learned more from them than almost every other real 727 00:46:18,980 --> 00:46:21,460 estate investor that I've ever spoken with. 728 00:46:21,460 --> 00:46:27,940 And we've been behind some amazing real estate investor program and leaders, but it was so 729 00:46:27,940 --> 00:46:35,340 easy to see the neurosurgeon level of what Tony and his team, that team of members of 730 00:46:35,340 --> 00:46:36,340 friends that were doing. 731 00:46:36,340 --> 00:46:39,860 I don't know if our friends, investors, collaborators, I don't know how it worked, but it was so 732 00:46:39,860 --> 00:46:45,300 impressive, Tony, that I was like, yep, I found the guy that I'm turning to for everything 733 00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:47,260 first when it comes to real estate. 734 00:46:47,260 --> 00:46:51,660 So well, way to do your work and figure it out. 735 00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:58,900 And I wish people had the patience to evaluate, man, I don't need somebody fun. 736 00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:01,060 I don't need somebody entertaining. 737 00:47:01,060 --> 00:47:03,900 I need somebody who's going to teach me the right thing. 738 00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:04,900 And that's you, man. 739 00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:05,900 So I appreciate it. 740 00:47:05,900 --> 00:47:06,900 Yeah. 741 00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:07,900 No, I appreciate you, Jackson. 742 00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:10,620 I appreciate the kind words and the perspective. 743 00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:11,820 I keep going back to... 744 00:47:11,820 --> 00:47:13,500 So I do have fun at this. 745 00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:17,220 I do find it entertaining. 746 00:47:17,220 --> 00:47:24,220 There's some folks who don't, but I spend a lot of time, a lot of hours on what I do 747 00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:26,300 because I truly enjoy it. 748 00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:27,540 I have fun. 749 00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:29,500 I've found my passion. 750 00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:32,340 Again, I am so truly blessed. 751 00:47:32,340 --> 00:47:36,580 A lot of people don't find their passion in life. 752 00:47:36,580 --> 00:47:40,860 And I feel so horribly bad for those folks who don't find their passion. 753 00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:42,140 I found mine. 754 00:47:42,140 --> 00:47:44,300 I love what I do each and every day. 755 00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:48,060 Some days I wake up at three o'clock in the morning and I grab my cup of coffee and I'm 756 00:47:48,060 --> 00:47:51,060 already going at three o'clock in the morning. 757 00:47:51,060 --> 00:47:54,220 So for me, this is not work. 758 00:47:54,220 --> 00:47:58,460 I am not looking to profit off of people. 759 00:47:58,460 --> 00:48:00,060 I'm not looking to... 760 00:48:00,060 --> 00:48:04,700 Obviously, there's some amount of, in some cases, pay to play because it takes a lot 761 00:48:04,700 --> 00:48:06,300 of my personal time. 762 00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:12,740 And I think to some degree, if you want my attention, I need to make sure that your 763 00:48:12,740 --> 00:48:17,260 you're going to take action. 764 00:48:17,260 --> 00:48:24,420 And when you pay for something, there's this thing in your mind that says, I'm paying for 765 00:48:24,420 --> 00:48:25,420 this. 766 00:48:25,420 --> 00:48:28,460 I got to make the most of it. 767 00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:32,900 Whether it's you're reading, you go to Barnes & Noble and you buy a book, you're not buying 768 00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:37,340 a book, spending $20 on a book just to sit it on the coffee table and look at it. 769 00:48:37,340 --> 00:48:39,740 You're buying a book because you want to read it. 770 00:48:39,740 --> 00:48:43,220 You see, they're going to bring some entertainment to your life. 771 00:48:43,220 --> 00:48:47,700 If it's a Harry Potter book, it's going to bring you some entertainment. 772 00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:53,140 If it's some meditation or religious book, maybe it provides some clarity to your life, 773 00:48:53,140 --> 00:48:54,540 some value in that way. 774 00:48:54,540 --> 00:48:59,340 If it's a real estate book, maybe it helps you gain some education in terms of how to 775 00:48:59,340 --> 00:49:01,380 invest in real estate. 776 00:49:01,380 --> 00:49:07,620 But you read it because you know you're going to have some defined benefit as a result of 777 00:49:07,620 --> 00:49:08,620 reading it. 778 00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:19,580 And that's why the big thing with me on having folks pay for coaching is having that behind 779 00:49:19,580 --> 00:49:26,300 them to say, I'm paying for it, I need to take action and make it worthwhile. 780 00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:28,940 Yes, absolutely. 781 00:49:28,940 --> 00:49:32,780 Here's my biggest secret for critical thinking. 782 00:49:32,780 --> 00:49:35,900 My biggest secret I can think of regarding it. 783 00:49:35,900 --> 00:49:40,980 And that has to do with the fact that enthusiasm, right? 784 00:49:40,980 --> 00:49:48,420 Enthusiasm and hype and all that, it does not have the same power as celebration. 785 00:49:48,420 --> 00:49:51,660 And I learned that from Glenn Moore Shower. 786 00:49:51,660 --> 00:49:57,340 Not to say that enthusiasm is wrong or that hype is wrong, but if hype and enthusiasm 787 00:49:57,340 --> 00:50:02,380 is leveraged to influence you and you don't feel a sense of true authentic celebration 788 00:50:02,380 --> 00:50:06,820 and gratitude with that person and with the sense of life, if they're kind of in your 789 00:50:06,820 --> 00:50:09,620 face and pressuring you, you probably not going to feel those other two things. 790 00:50:09,620 --> 00:50:11,780 I love what Glenn Moore Shower laid down. 791 00:50:11,780 --> 00:50:15,780 And to me, you emulate that so well, Tony. 792 00:50:15,780 --> 00:50:22,020 And this is a photo of Tony and I at a conference with Ashley Deteo, Scott, a few other individuals 793 00:50:22,020 --> 00:50:23,420 who are amazing. 794 00:50:23,420 --> 00:50:24,980 And you know, this is what he's talking about. 795 00:50:24,980 --> 00:50:26,380 Like, yes, I agree with you, man. 796 00:50:26,380 --> 00:50:28,180 I absolutely love what we do. 797 00:50:28,180 --> 00:50:29,700 I love to go to conferences. 798 00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:33,380 That's where I find the people that are thinking like me and after big things in life and you 799 00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:36,900 get to just like open your mind to so many new cool things. 800 00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:41,620 And it's just one of those opportunities to like sit around the table with people who 801 00:50:41,620 --> 00:50:47,620 are leveling up to big degrees and at the same time, appreciate everything that you're 802 00:50:47,620 --> 00:50:48,620 up to in the world too. 803 00:50:48,620 --> 00:50:53,860 So if you haven't gone to conferences, I don't care what conference it is, as long as it's 804 00:50:53,860 --> 00:50:56,020 driven around purpose, right? 805 00:50:56,020 --> 00:51:01,740 And as long as it's driven around celebrating the values and virtues of life, take out 20 806 00:51:01,740 --> 00:51:05,500 bucks, take out 100 bucks, whatever it is, and commit yourself to go and allow yourself 807 00:51:05,500 --> 00:51:07,540 to go and make new friends and participate. 808 00:51:07,540 --> 00:51:13,300 It can be a life changing experience, whether that's a church retreat, a business venture 809 00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:17,940 or a retreat to work on your copy for your book. 810 00:51:17,940 --> 00:51:19,980 For instance, like we were at with Deteo Publishing. 811 00:51:19,980 --> 00:51:22,260 So Tony, dude, thank you so much for being here today. 812 00:51:22,260 --> 00:51:23,260 Any final thoughts? 813 00:51:23,260 --> 00:51:24,980 Where can we contact you if we want to reach out? 814 00:51:24,980 --> 00:51:29,420 Well, first, I appreciate you, Jackson, for having me again. 815 00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:34,580 This was a lot of fun and I think a lot of value for your listeners and your viewers. 816 00:51:34,580 --> 00:51:37,540 They can find me a couple of different places. 817 00:51:37,540 --> 00:51:43,740 If they're interested in the book, Freedom at Risk, it shares a ton of different value 818 00:51:43,740 --> 00:51:45,300 propositions for folks. 819 00:51:45,300 --> 00:51:48,940 They can find that at freedomatriskbook.com. 820 00:51:48,940 --> 00:51:54,900 If they're looking for more real estate stuff, they can go to my YouTube channel, Dirty Boots 821 00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:55,900 Capital. 822 00:51:55,900 --> 00:51:57,300 I share real estate. 823 00:51:57,300 --> 00:51:59,020 I share freedom ideas. 824 00:51:59,020 --> 00:52:03,940 I share a ton of different content here in terms of what's happening in the world. 825 00:52:03,940 --> 00:52:07,180 So Dirty Boots Capital on YouTube. 826 00:52:07,180 --> 00:52:12,300 And then they can always go to my website, also called dirtybootscapital.com. 827 00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:13,820 They can go there, check it out. 828 00:52:13,820 --> 00:52:18,700 Again, I offer a ton of different options here for folks to try and help. 829 00:52:18,700 --> 00:52:26,180 Everything from real estate syndications to coaching to just blog posts, a ton of free 830 00:52:26,180 --> 00:52:27,500 content here as well. 831 00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:32,580 So hopefully, folks, check it out and love it. 832 00:52:32,580 --> 00:52:33,580 I love it. 833 00:52:33,580 --> 00:52:36,020 Well, thank you, Tony, and welcome to Vision Pros. 834 00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:39,580 Everybody, we appreciate you being here today and we will see you on the other side. 835 00:52:39,580 --> 00:52:40,580 Excellent. 836 00:52:40,580 --> 00:52:50,260 My name is MYL Visit. 837 00:52:50,260 --> 00:53:05,020 Thanks, Tony.