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Alright, welcome in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm Jackson Callum, I'm your show host.

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We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guests, guest leaders who

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are building fantastic visions out there.

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Ultimately, I just want to go through some of the things that might help you with your

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vision.

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If you have a vision that you're pursuing, drop a link in the comments and let us know

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what that is.

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If you're a business or a brand, if it's a non-profit that you run, be happy to promote

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it, be happy to talk to you about it, and if you'd like to apply to be on Vision Pros

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and be interviewed about that vision, then by all means, feel free to reach out.

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Alright everybody, welcome in to Vision Pros Podcast Live.

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My name is Jackson Callum.

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I'm your host.

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I'm the founder and CEO of First Class Business and I'm excited for our guest today.

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He's a great friend of mine and I'm really excited for you guys to pick up all the wonderful

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truths and value that he puts out there regarding video marketing, social media marketing, and

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ultimately how to drive awareness for your brand and even conversions with sales on top

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of that.

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So we're going to bring in Brad Powell of Awesome Video Makers.

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Brad and I met at a conference years ago called Habitude Warrior Conference.

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We had a great friendship established.

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One of the cool things about him is he actually took me behind the scenes of what he was doing

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for that event where he was running all of the live feeds for the event, all of the video,

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all the audio setup.

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It was something, it was a world that I'm familiar enough with to be super dangerous,

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but I don't actually know how all those things come together and all the equipment that he

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lugs around, he could have been stressed.

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Most video techs I know are, they get kind of stressed.

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They kind of want you out of their wheelhouse.

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They don't really want you in their space.

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I've never seen somebody more calm in a live setting that has so much to juggle.

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And here he was kind of showing me how he was doing things, what he was up to, his passion

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just shined.

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He became a really good friend because of that.

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And he's also like I said, incredible social media management and now understanding how

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to use video in order to promote your brand.

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So without further ado, let's get you on stage, Brad Powell, and let's discuss who is Brad

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Powell, what's your vision and what can we teach the entrepreneurs out there who need

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to learn?

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How do we get our brands out there?

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How do we attract an audience to our message?

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So Brad, welcome.

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Yeah.

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Thanks for having me on, Jackson.

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This is really, really good thing to do today.

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So where do we want to start?

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We want me to tell people who I am and what I do.

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Yeah.

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So I'd love that.

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So Brad, who is Brad?

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Let's go to the basic.

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All right.

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So I'm the founder of Awesome Video Makers and I also host a weekly show called The Standout

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Business Show.

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And actually that's a big theme of my work as I literally help people create a standout

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brand for themselves.

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And these days, given we're in the post pandemic period and a lot of people who never would

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have thought, never would have imagined that they'd find themselves in front of the camera

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and on Zoom calls as much as they have.

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All of now, like if you're going to meet with someone, if you're going to work anywhere

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and work remotely, talking through the medium that we're talking through right now is just

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the new normal.

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This is the way that we communicate.

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And if you're wanting to build your brand in any fashion, the way to do it, especially

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at scale, is to sit yourself down and get on camera and get your message out in a very

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personable way, in a way that builds trust and builds authority so that you actually

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become the familiar face to exactly the right crowd of people that you'd like to talk to.

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And that's really, that's the mission I'm on is helping people accomplish that task.

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That's awesome.

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Like you said, society's really been primed or jolted into this video experience, whereas

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it wasn't a necessity prior to COVID.

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COVID was like, no, you guys need to learn video and you need to use it now.

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One of my favorite things about your setup is I always feel like I can just reach into

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the camera and grab your glasses or like grab your microphone.

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Your lighting is always so great, and it feels like I'm talking to you in person when I talk

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to you.

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And I take it, I know you go into great depths to help people accomplish that same feel,

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look and vibe with their setup, correct?

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Yeah, that's part of it.

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I mean, one of the very first steps that I take with any of the clients that I work with

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is we spend time just setting you up to being looking and sounding as good as you possibly

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And in the setting that I have right here, the goal is to be set up to where it looks

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just natural, that I've got a window here and the appearance is that I'm being lit by natural

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light, that I'm being lit naturally.

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But the truth is, I have some artificial lights, like there's one up here and there's one over

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But if I didn't point them out and I didn't talk about what they're doing and how they

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do it, you wouldn't know.

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You wouldn't necessarily know anything about that.

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And a lot of people, again, if they're on Zoom, what happens is that they're sitting

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with a window behind them, but what's happening with them is that they're in shadow.

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And so instead of this straight on view, you're getting sort of a look up inside their nose

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kind of thing.

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And there's a lot of things like that that are very unflattering and can make you literally

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less visible when you're on camera.

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So this is one of the early parts of the work I do with people is helping them just show

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up looking like a normal human.

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And so that people just find you more relatable.

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It's just easier to connect with you because in fact, like you just described, it looks

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like you're talking to someone in person as much as you possibly can.

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Absolutely.

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And Brad, you've actually done a great job of even we haven't had the opportunity to

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fully build out my studio setting because I've been updating mine.

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And today's not even a fair reflection of what you taught because I had a power outage

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four minutes before we went live.

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That's the other angle too, right?

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One thing I want to get across the audience is make sure to embrace your humanity.

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You're going to have mistakes.

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You're going to have things come up that don't necessarily go right.

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Your light might turn off.

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Your bulb might go out in the middle of your broadcast.

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And to be able to go with the flow, to be able to be authentic, to be able to recognize

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you don't have to be perfect to attract an audience is super important.

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Now, that also goes into the other aspect.

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When you're meeting with your clients or in the Mic Drop Moments program, you're doing

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some coaching and some preparation with them on how to get their message out there and

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tell us a little bit about that.

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What do you do with clients to help?

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How can I, how can I as a client feel more comfortable with the idea of my voice, which

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I may not like, my appearance being like acceptable and feeling like I'm okay to be on camera

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and get a video out there?

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What do you do with people like that?

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Well, the main technique that I use is an interview style.

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So one of the hardest things I think it is for anyone, myself included, is to sit down

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in front of a camera lens and speak to that camera and not seem like totally weird and

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unnatural and like, you know, what the heck am I doing here?

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Or like, I'm talking to nobody and it can make you feel super uncomfortable.

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And as a result, you know, most people are, they freeze up or they talk in a very wooden

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way, or they talk in a way that they think they're supposed to.

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So they get all serious and, and formal instead of just being who they are.

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And one of the ways that you can break through that, that sort of edge that people put up

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in front of themselves is to sit down with them in a way that is like you were sitting

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across from the meta table at a cafe and do a conversational dialogue where it's back

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and forth and you're asking questions and you're leaning into the answers and showing

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an interest and then listening carefully, which is what I do with all the people I work

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with so that whatever it is that they're saying, there's going to be something in there that

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will trigger some curiosity in me and there'll be something in there where I'm thinking,

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that out even more.

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And so in the process of, you know, I'll sit down with someone for an hour and I'll be

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interviewing them during that hour and I'll turn every single answer that they give me

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into a short form, what I call mic drop moment.

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So these are short videos that are like a minute or less and they can be go out and

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posted on all the social media channels.

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And that one of the results is that in the process of doing this with people is that

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somewhere in the middle, people loosen up and they start feeling like, Oh, I'm just

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having a conversation.

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And the truth is that all of the people that I talk with, they're experienced, they're

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experts, they really know the work they do.

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They really have a deep knowledge and a lot of things to share about the kinds of things

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that they do.

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It's just a matter of helping to pull it out of them, nothing them to get it downloaded

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in a way where they're speaking about in every natural cadence and every personable cadence.

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And so by talking with them, by, you know, basically making light jokes along the way,

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getting them to laugh and loose loosen up in the kind of way that you would anytime

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that you're having any kind of conversation with someone, this really helps a lot.

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And I find that this style of literally video making, this style of creating content is

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a much easier going style.

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And it ends up appearing easygoing because now you have this person who's on camera and

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they feel relaxed and they look natural and they look like themselves and they literally

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become more relatable.

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Excellent.

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So there's vision casting and then what you're doing, you're a vision extractor.

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I like this.

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You extract visions from those that you work with and you help them voice in a way that's

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authentic and of course comes through very clear as they learn to speak to the camera

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and learn to speak more naturally.

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Now, I want to know who are some of the visionaries that you've extracted visions from?

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Like what types of people have come to you to get this process done to where their mic

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drop moments, their videos are coming out?

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Who do you work with, Brad?

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Well, there's a number of people, a lot of the folks I work with are consultants or their

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coaches or they're the owner of a small marketing agency.

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And you know, for instance, there's a woman named Melanie Borden who she's basically what's

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called a fractional CMO.

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So what that means is that she's the chief marketing officer for another company.

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She'll go in and she's not hired full time, but she'll get a contract where she'll come

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in and she'll assist and or do the main social media marketing for the company that she comes

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And she may work alongside the marketing department that's already there, but she's helping them

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do a part of their marketing and a part of their brand building that they're not very

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experienced with and they don't really know how to do very well.

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And so that's the work that she does.

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And she's been pretty successful doing this.

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And when we met, she already had a big following on the LinkedIn platform, something like 150,000

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people were part of her connections on the platform there.

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And when she would post, you know, a picture post or a text post, that generally got quite

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a bit of engagement.

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And so I, I invited her as a guest on my show as the first thing that we did.

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And like, this was before she became a client, but I invited her as a guest because I just

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thought, well, she's doing really cool.

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She's got a lot to talk about in marketing.

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Let's have her on.

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And so we talked and then I took a single clip from the interview that we did and I

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posted it on my account on LinkedIn and that one video that we're talking like a one minute

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video, it got over 50 hours of watch time.

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Oh, wow.

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Which is crazy.

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Like that's a lot of time for a one minute video.

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And it got, you know, it reached something like 30 or 35,000 accounts.

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That's how many people saw it in their feed.

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And it got over 11,000 likes on it.

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And then hundreds of comments, like tons of people responded to it.

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And she literally turned around and said, what did you just do?

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Yeah, I would have too.

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I want to know how this worked.

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Was that organic?

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She, yeah, this is completely organic.

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And she just said, whatever you're doing, you just showed me something that you can

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do that I don't know anything about and I can't do for myself.

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And so we started working together.

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And so over the next three months, we sat down, it was just three different times.

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So we had three one hour interviews once one per month.

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And then out of that, you know, a single hour, I would give her literally a month's

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worth of content for that.

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Now, you give it to her.

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Does she have to take that content and post it on different channels or how does that

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work?

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Well, it depends.

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Some of my clients, I do that for and some of them, they do it themselves.

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And in her case, because she's already got a social media marketing team that this is

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what they do.

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They know, they know this stuff really well.

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She was totally happy and comfortable taking the videos and posting them herself.

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And she was only putting them on just on LinkedIn and on Instagram.

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So it's just two locations.

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And so she was doing that work, but I do have clients where they don't, they don't do any

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I take care of all of that for them.

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The options there now, if you can, Brad, while we're while we're talking, if you can share

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your screen and bring up maybe your mic drop moments page or one of these videos so that

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the audience can see what, what these are, what do they look like?

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And how does this fit in?

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Maybe who's watching this, you're going to understand as Brad pulls this up, what these

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You see them all the time in your reels and your stories.

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I imagine on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube shorts, they're, they're these videos that have graphic

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text overlays, which means that they have the words popping up on the screen as a person

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talking sometimes.

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And they may be, they may include what's called jump cuts, where you've got different segments

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stacked on each other and it cuts to either new angles or zooms in in different parts.

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And all, all that does is it captivates the audience.

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It makes it very hard to resist watching that video content, which is ultimately what makes

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your message then sticky.

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So Brad, whenever you're ready, we can pull that up.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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So are you seeing this now?

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I do, I see it.

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So the audience sees it's time for your mic drop moment, one hour of your time, one month

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of video content.

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Love the tagline.

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Very smart.

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Right.

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So this is, this is actually Melanie right here.

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And I don't know if I play this, will it come through?

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Let's try it.

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Let's see.

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I never really liked to be on camera prior to 2020.

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I never did video during COVID.

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I really pushed myself to get out there and I started doing video.

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But what I learned very soon after is the tremendous amount of work that goes into creating video

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and how many takes you have to do and the editing.

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So when Brad invited me onto his podcast and he had sent me the clip of the video from his

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podcast, I was so impressed because he was doing something that I wasn't able to do.

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Every time I post one of my videos, somebody messages me and says, your videos are so good.

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Who's doing them?

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And so now I'm super comfortable being on camera.

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I also feel that the content is so unique and it's so different.

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It really sets me apart.

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Wow.

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All right, cool.

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So you're, you're a part of, obviously speaks for itself.

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Go ahead, Brad.

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I'll do, I'll do one more of these.

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This is Matt Schiver who is a, he's a physical therapist who now is a business coach for

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other physical therapists.

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So he's coaching the physical therapists of North America on how to grow their business,

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basically.

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And he has become a short form content creation machine since we started working together.

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He started posting every day for 90 days and he's talking about the results that he got

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from doing this.

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I look at the last 90 days of the content that I created posting every day.

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My content got in front of 300 and I think it was like 320,000 accounts and had about

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30,000 accounts that were that engage in the content.

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And my account grew by about 25%.

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This is just Instagram.

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So like if I take into consideration, TikTok, YouTube, LinkedIn, Facebook, I use on both

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personal and business, but that's probably about half a million people that it was to

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get in front of as I started to create content.

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Cool part was when I was able to hop on sales calls, they would start to reference the content

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that I was creating.

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It's like, whoa, you guys are listening.

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So I encourage you if you're like, you know, it sounds like it's a lot of work to start

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creating content on a consistent basis.

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And if you can do it enough consistently, you're going to build enough, no like and

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trust factor with your ideal clients to where they will DM you and be like, how do I work

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with you?

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How do I pay you money?

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Create content.

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It works.

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Wow.

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He said half a million people viewing 30,000 accounts in different channels.

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And you can just, it's pretty easy to see how happy he is with the results.

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And when we get results like that, it's not too hard to be happy.

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So let's talk about some of the myths around lead generation.

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You know, perhaps even some of the, some of the, I don't want to call them malpractices,

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but I kind of do.

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You know, some of the things that the people are, are business owners are, I also don't

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want to say falling victim of, but in reality, there's just a lot of noise out there.

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There's a lot of things that one is told to do.

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You know, I'm constantly harping on the reality that 96% of businesses are failing.

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Therefore, why are you following 96% of the advice?

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You know, you've got to be careful what you listen to.

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So what myths come to mind around lead generation and, and misconceptions, Brad?

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You know, the first one I'll mention is that people have this belief that there's some

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magic bullet or just simply that there's some magic to lead generation, that if I only knew

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the magic trick, if I only had this one simple answer to the question, I would be able to

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do it.

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And you see this all the time in the advertising and the promotion that a lot of online marketing

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gurus will say, you know, it's basically, here's how you can get 10,000 leads in the

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next 90 days without, you know, leaving your couch without without actually having to do

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anything.

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And we have the secret for you.

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And it's a bunch of BS.

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Like it just doesn't work that way.

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And what, what really is the case with lead generation, it's, it's not rocket science.

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It's all about who do you want to serve and do you know a lot about the people that you're

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wanting to serve?

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Like knowing that group, knowing that audience, knowing the people who have the problem that

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your business is designed to solve.

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And then speaking to them in a way that makes them feel like you understand them, like that

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they feel like, oh, this person, you know, gets me.

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This person actually knows something about me rather than most people, what most people

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do is that they're talking all about themselves and all their great thing.

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And this is all the cool thing that we're up to.

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And this is who I am.

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And, and you know, whatever.

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And none of that works very well because people don't care about you at all.

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They care about themselves and they care about their own issues and they care about what's

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going on for them.

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And if you can come to any individual who's got some kind of challenge going on and is

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looking for some kind of result and you can talk to them where that feels like they're

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understood by you, that's really just the first step of opening the door to what wants

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to be a genuine conversation.

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And we're just, we're coming back to conversations.

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And this is the kind of thing that you want to create with all of your people is having

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conversation with them where they're feeling like they're being listened to.

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And if you can do that, this is where even short form video works really well because

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you can be responding to people.

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You could be responding to anyone that you talked to on the street or that you had a

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DM conversation with in terms of direct messaging or whatever.

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And your content, the things that you put out there can be part of that conversation.

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And of course, when you do something like a short video, what will happen is a lot of

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people will respond to it.

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And that is literally just the conversation starter, which then the follow up is that,

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well, you just keep on talking with them in the comments.

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And if you do it well, you're creating what's called an open loop with everything you do

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so that when you make a video, the video itself has some open loops where the opening is for

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people to respond, for people to answer a question that you're raising or to give you

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their opinion about something that you're asking them about.

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And if they do that in the comments, you can continue that conversation with more questioning

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and inquiry where you can respond and say, oh, yeah, that's really good point or that's

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really valid or I really understand where you're coming from.

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And have you ever considered this or have you ever looked over in this direction and

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whatever you're doing, you're continuing to get them to come back to you with more of

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what's on their mind.

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And the more you learn about what's on people's minds, the more the actual magic will happen

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for you in terms of lead generation.

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Nice.

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So I do want to dive into this open loop aspect because there's again a lot of myths out there

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related to it that drive me nuts.

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Maybe you're for it, maybe you're not, which creates a healthy debate, but there's these

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posts that are dominating the internet right now.

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They have been for a few years like, what's the third book on your shelf?

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What's the fifth photo?

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Post the fifth photo, like people care.

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These are pretty much multi-level marketers that don't know anything about business trying

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to drive attention and awareness with almost zero tact.

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I get it, I mean, I probably like getting eliminated by friends right now because whatever

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thing you say, but there's nothing authentic to me about that.

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So how do you create, when you say open loops, are we talking about, hey, drop a comment

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below if you agree with this or drop a comment below, like, you know, they're tax that are

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used, but how do you create a genuine open loop if I can put you on the expert spot?

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The first part in your content itself, an open loop wants to be, can be referred to

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and it can be a hook at the start of your content or it could be in your headline where

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you're creating curiosity about one thing or another in terms of the topic of what you're

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talking about.

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And when you do that in your content, you need to close the loop.

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You can't create like, you know, here's this thing I'm going to, you know, this awesome

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debate.

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You know, like, what's the worst mistake people make when they get in front of the camera?

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And if I don't tell you anything about what the mistake was in the content itself, then

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that's completely unsatisfying.

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And yeah, worst case scenario is it's a form of clickbait.

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So you need to, you need to close the loop.

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But as you do, just like when you're watching, you know, a Netflix series, those programs,

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like one of the reasons that Game of Thrones was so popular and so addictive was because

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it was built and designed with many, many open loops all the way through every single

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episode.

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And so by the time you got to the end, there had been some openings and some closure and

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more openings to where you're going, well, I need the closure and I've got to watch the

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next episode.

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And this is the kind of thing that you're wanting to do with your content so that you

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can open and close and then reopen where the closure will happen in the comments.

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And in the comments themselves, you know, one of the techniques that I use, which on

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social media seems to work fairly well is that when someone leaves a comment of any kind,

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I will do a couple of things.

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First thing I'll do is I'll answer them with an emoji or maybe a set of emojis where

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I'm communicating what I'm thinking only I'm using emojis to do it.

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And as just it's fun and light and interesting and, you know, it's more of a lighthearted

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gesture.

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Same time, then I'll leave a second comment where I will respond to what they're saying

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in a conversational way.

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But then, so then, you know, so basically I'm answering them, which is basically a loop

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closure.

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And they said, I'm responding, so they kind of opened a loop and now I'm closing it.

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But then I'll ask another question.

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And, and I'll do this.

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So a couple of things are happening there.

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One is that every time you have a single comment, you're adding three.

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And so in terms of just the algorithm and how the algorithm functions, every comment

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is now four.

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And so if you have 10 comments on a post, now you're going to have 40.

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And of course, if people start answering the questions that you're asking, it's going to

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go further.

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And in terms of organic reach, that's super helpful for your content.

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And so this method of as an open loop strategy, of course, it works with any kind of content,

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whether you're doing text posts or picture posts or carousels or any of that stuff.

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All this, all this kind of thing in the, in the comments section can work, can work really

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well.

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I love it.

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It's one, and the big key on that is it's genuine.

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Right.

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You're taking the effort to make it genuine, right?

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You can automate your thank you cards and then nobody cares.

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Right.

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You can automate your Christmas card and then nobody cares.

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Right.

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You have to actually like take the time to care about that individual.

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But by doing so, you're also making sure to take care of the algorithm and the process.

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And you're 100%, right?

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I have seen that time and time again.

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We use that in group settings where if somebody responds to our post in a group, if you tag

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a couple of people in the group, I'm not talking tagging 50 people because then it feels like

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I'm just another random person that they tagged in order to get to see him.

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Right.

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But if I mentioned somebody in a video, I tagged that individual to make sure they see

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it.

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And then as they respond with thank you or whatever, it's my opportunity to reengage

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them and say, you know, you know, can you expand on why, how you drew, how you got to

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this conclusion?

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Right.

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Something that carries the dialogue further and resurrects that post ultimately showing

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Facebook, Hey, like there's users who care about this.

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And even though it may start with one or two, or you might tag another person and say, you

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know, Hey, Jessica, I was just talking with Brad about you in regards to this, right?

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00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:08,480
And that brings in yet another person to the equation, not with the intent again of just

464
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wasting Jessica's time because she'll get that.

465
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And it has to be a point of connection that is sincere and creates a mutual bond.

466
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,160
So well said, very, very logical.

467
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,600
And I hadn't ever done the emoji thing question about the emojis.

468
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All right.

469
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,920
So do you, do you use the emoji to, and you might use these in multiple ways, but to create

470
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,760
clear intent of this is the clear emoji, like, Hey, it's high fives.

471
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,760
And I know what that is.

472
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,440
Or do you use an emoji that's like one of those looks that could be like you're excited

473
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,760
or is there some intrigue and mystery behind that?

474
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,280
Or do you use a very clear emoji to, to help the audience and to help the person who you're

475
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,040
commenting with understand the direction of your feeling.

476
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:57,880
Well, I'm trying to express an emotion that's connected to what, what the conversation wants

477
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:58,880
to be.

478
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:05,280
And I will, I mean, using the emojis is more of, I'm usually trying to make light of what,

479
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,920
you know, or do some kind of humorous commentary on what they've said.

480
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:14,920
So it could include words as well as the emoji so that I'm, I'm making clear my message.

481
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:22,520
And I think, like, just for instance, today, one of my friends who's another video person

482
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:28,920
on LinkedIn was comparing, getting, getting on camera and speaking on camera and improving

483
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,320
your speaking ability on camera with going to the gym.

484
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:37,240
And then she literally had a barbell and she was, you know, pumping iron on the barbell

485
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,000
on the video as she was talking.

486
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,400
It's just like, you got to work out, like you have to do in the reps.

487
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,040
And this is the way you have to treat your speaking.

488
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,040
Nice.

489
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaking opportunities is like you got to put in the reps and every time you do, you

490
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,520
don't, you know, when you're first going out, you don't join the, you know, the world

491
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,680
champion weightlifting contest, you know, when you're just getting started, what you

492
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,240
do is you speak in front of a small group or you make a presentation to, you know, your

493
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,320
team at your office or whatever, like you do these little things and then you work up

494
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to bigger opportunities.

495
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,880
So anyway, that was, that was the thing that she was talking about.

496
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,000
And she was saying at the end of it, she said, so, you know, just like going to the gym,

497
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you got to, you know, pick up your weight and you got to do this.

498
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,760
And so I just made this comment where I said, or you could go vlogging with a really heavy

499
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camera rig.

500
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:35,320
And then I, and then I use the strong arm emoji as the first response to her video.

501
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,880
And you know, so like, that was just me making light of what she was talking about.

502
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:46,240
And I, I look for that because everybody on social media is, this is what they want.

503
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,720
Like they're looking to be entertained.

504
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,960
They're looking for something that, I mean, yes, they want to learn things and they want

505
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,760
to, you know, develop whatever, but they're also looking just to have a good time.

506
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,480
I mean, why bother if that's not what's happening.

507
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:05,200
So I'm wanting to, as much as anything else, help that effort as well so that when I'm

508
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,800
building a relationship with the people who I'm talking to, I'm wanting to do this kind

509
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,160
of thing with them.

510
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,160
Love it.

511
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,960
At first class business, we're huge on teaching people how to drive people from the awareness

512
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,880
phase to the interested and the consideration phase.

513
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:27,280
And you're leveraging the actual emotions that cause that.

514
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,040
And most, most marketers don't, most marketers leveraged the idea of intrigue and they do

515
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:38,240
so by like being showbodey or fancy, but they never get to the level of inspire.

516
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:44,840
You're actually helping your clients move from just being intriguing to also inspiring.

517
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,720
And you're doing so, you're doing so by helping them understand the art of listening, listening

518
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,240
and taking care of the needs and the desires of the audience at hand.

519
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,080
I think that's absolutely amazing.

520
00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:00,880
You and I are also talking about planning different opportunities for the, this new

521
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,320
event that you've talked to me about, this new event where we're talking about you bringing

522
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:15,360
together a small circle of phenomenal influencers, if you will, business owners and shooting

523
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,680
an incredible amount of video.

524
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,840
Brad, I'm going to give you a minute to share that with people.

525
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,000
My daughter is leaving for camp right now.

526
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,040
So I'm going to go be a good dad, give her a hug and say goodbye.

527
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,400
But I would love for you to share with us the vision for this mastermind because I think

528
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,920
it's outstanding.

529
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,240
And I know that the types of assets that are going to come out of that Gary Vaynerchuk

530
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,640
style and et cetera, like I'm really excited for people to understand the value of what

531
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,360
it is you're about to put together with that.

532
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,000
So I'll be right back while you do that.

533
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,000
All right.

534
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,000
Thank you.

535
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,440
Well, so the vision, the vision is to get together with a small group.

536
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,800
And I'm talking maybe, maybe eight people in some really cool location, cool location

537
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,960
in a warm climate.

538
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:07,520
And to set up where we can over a period of say three days have a few different interview

539
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:14,840
sessions where people can sit down and have their content be created and collected in

540
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,640
this way of they're being interviewed.

541
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,720
They're very best ideas.

542
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:19,880
They're very best thoughts.

543
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,840
They're very best wisdom is being captured on camera.

544
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,720
And we're doing it in a setting where it's as good as it can get.

545
00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:29,800
Like we have professional cameras.

546
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,540
We have professional lights.

547
00:34:31,540 --> 00:34:33,640
We have an amazing background.

548
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,960
We're in a cool place where just where we are is an amazing background.

549
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:44,320
And people are going to be able to create content in a group setting that is really very

550
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,320
much like a video making mastermind.

551
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,760
So part of the attraction is just who you get to do this with because there will be

552
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:57,600
a lot of creative people doing this and working together, encouraging one another and learning

553
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,320
from each other in this process.

554
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,720
And the other thing that we want to do is literally follow people around with cameras

555
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:08,760
for like all the time that we're together.

556
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,960
So when you're talking casually with some of the other members, anytime that the instructors

557
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:19,200
are talking with them, anytime that they get up and do a little presentation with the group,

558
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:26,480
all that kind of stuff can be captured as well as just photographs, headshots, et cetera.

559
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:33,040
So that coming away from this gathering, not only will you be inspired by what you've

560
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,880
seen amongst all of the other people presenting all of the other stuff that they're working

561
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:45,960
on, but you will have a ton of content that then you can take and work and use on into

562
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:52,520
the future on your various online channels, whether it's your blog or any of the social

563
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,720
media sites or even in your newsletter.

564
00:35:55,720 --> 00:36:01,320
And so this is a vision that I've had now for just a little over a year and I'm putting

565
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,160
in to practice now.

566
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,040
And it looks like we're going to be able to do it sometime next winter.

567
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,040
Woo!

568
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,520
Oh, that's exciting.

569
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,800
I would love to speed the process of that up because it just seems like such an awesome,

570
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,640
it's like a party, you know, and you're like, I don't want to wait for the party.

571
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,640
This is an awesome party.

572
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,640
Let's do the party now.

573
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:28,120
But I love that you are disciplined in planning out how the vision unfolds.

574
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:33,280
That's ultimately what leads to the Fantastic Firework show that we're trying to always

575
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,920
accomplish as business owners.

576
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:35,920
Right.

577
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,640
And some of us are a bit too hasty sometimes to be able to pull that off, you know, and

578
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,240
how we move things forward.

579
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:43,920
Walt Disney is an example of that.

580
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,320
You know, I try many times before you figure it out.

581
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,120
Steve Jobs is an example of that.

582
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:53,560
So there's some, there's some credit to just moving things forward and perfectly too.

583
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,800
But at the same time, there's always a lot of planning that goes into what's great and

584
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,800
what's valuable.

585
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,360
I'm really happy that you shared that with us, Brad.

586
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:10,440
In terms of other vision aspects, so from National Geographics to and what you did with

587
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:18,320
them for music and moving the brand forward to Habitu Warrior Conference and what you

588
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:23,680
did at that event and being on stage.

589
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,720
What else as far as vision, Brad?

590
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:27,440
Beyond the business.

591
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,680
What's some of the personal vision, you know, over the next 10 years?

592
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,800
What are some of the things you want to accomplish bucket list items?

593
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:44,180
Well, for me personally, I am really a big passion of mine has been doing documentary

594
00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:46,440
style storytelling.

595
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:53,040
And so I've been doing like just around the edges, little bits of little projects where

596
00:37:53,040 --> 00:38:00,000
I'll tell somebody's story here and there, but I haven't carved out the time to really

597
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,160
go after a bigger project that would be much more meaningful.

598
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:10,720
And I mean, not that these small projects aren't, but just something that really, I

599
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:16,640
think would create some positive change by bringing that story out into the world.

600
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,040
So it's really interesting because at this moment in time, I'm rebranding the weekly

601
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:26,240
show that I've been doing, which has been called the standout CEO show.

602
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:31,280
And I'm slightly changing the name to the standout business show.

603
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:41,080
And the theme, the theme of what I'm after is looking for the outliers and the positively

604
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:49,520
deviant entrepreneurs who are doing something that is unlike and really uncommon to what

605
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,400
the rest of the business world is doing.

606
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,520
And as a result, they've discovered something.

607
00:38:54,520 --> 00:39:00,200
They discovered a particular solution, a particular way of running and operating their

608
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:09,920
business and or building a genuine community of loyal advocates for their brand that we

609
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,480
all need to learn from.

610
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:17,320
And this concept of positive deviance is really a concept that comes from social work, you

611
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:23,680
know, international social work, where instead of coming to any community as a nonprofit

612
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,120
and saying, hey, we know the answers and we're going to help you with the solution here and

613
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:35,080
just listen to us, it's more of, let's go to a place and find out who in this place

614
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,680
is doing something that the other people aren't doing.

615
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:43,800
And as a result, they're having success, even though they have the same limited resources

616
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:49,760
and they're facing the same challenges and, you know, but somehow some magic is happening

617
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,680
and they found something that works.

618
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:58,000
And I believe that like right now on the planet, whatever challenge any of us are facing, whatever

619
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,240
problem we have, the answer is out there.

620
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:03,760
Somebody knows the answer to these questions.

621
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:10,440
And so my work in my show, now the standout business show is going to be meeting and talking

622
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:17,960
to people who have discovered some uncommon solution that are unconventional way of doing

623
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,600
something that, but the rest of us need to go, oh my gosh, look at that.

624
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,920
And so instead of looking at who are, you know, who's the trendsetter, it's sort of

625
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:32,320
like, who are the people have making these hidden discoveries and as a result, they're

626
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,520
thriving.

627
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:39,760
And how can we learn from that and take advantage of these people who are literally underexposed

628
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,720
like they're hidden, they're hidden away in little pockets here and there.

629
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:46,840
And yet they've discovered so many things that will be so beneficial for the rest of

630
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,920
us.

631
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,920
And these are the kinds of stories that I want to tell.

632
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,800
And as I grow and have the bandwidth, I'm going to do more in terms of making longer

633
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:01,840
form documentary style videos that will highlight these kinds of entrepreneurs.

634
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:07,120
What an awesome, awesome idea and value that you're bringing to the world with that.

635
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,120
We're excited to follow your journey, Brad.

636
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,720
I'm super honored to be so close, you know, to the opportunity myself and to be able to

637
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:14,720
call you a friend.

638
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,400
You've been a great friend, you're a phenomenal visionary.

639
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,400
And thank you for being on Vision Pros podcast.

640
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,800
Brad, if people want to reach out to you and connect, what's the best way to do so?

641
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:33,280
The very best way is to go to awesomevideomakers.com and or I've got a free guide for people.

642
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,960
If they want to go grab that, it's like, if you're interested in thinking about starting

643
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:44,560
to do this, any kind of content, but especially video, I've got this set of 40 video hooks

644
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,640
that will work on no matter what niche you're in.

645
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:53,800
And you can find that at 40, the number, you know, 40, 40 videoideas.com.

646
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,640
And it's a free download.

647
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:56,640
Awesome.

648
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,640
That would be fantastic.

649
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,720
And hooks, meaning if you're looking to grab the attention of your audience, then that's

650
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:05,080
a fantastic resource from Brad Palbrad.

651
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,600
We're honored to have you make Vision Pros live and we will see you soon.

652
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,600
Yeah.

653
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,600
Thanks so much, Jackson.

654
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:35,520
Congratulations気 spells

