WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.279 got Dr. Mo Gibbons or Dr. Maureen Gibbons in 00:00:03.279 --> 00:00:06.339 the house. And one of my team members, like Jackson, 00:00:06.540 --> 00:00:09.740 she could be your twin. She's as controversial 00:00:09.740 --> 00:00:13.060 as you. You guys look like siblings. This is 00:00:13.060 --> 00:00:14.380 going to be a fun one. I was like, oh my gosh, 00:00:14.419 --> 00:00:16.320 this is going to be, sure enough, we dove in 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:19.100 right away. And Mo, you and I were like. going 00:00:19.100 --> 00:00:21.379 at it in a good way on all things entrepreneur 00:00:21.379 --> 00:00:25.079 and burnout and shifting. And you got a great 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:28.179 book. You studied with Dan Martell as well. You 00:00:28.179 --> 00:00:30.100 get it. You really, really understand it. So 00:00:30.100 --> 00:00:32.259 as we talk about credentials being a cage and 00:00:32.259 --> 00:00:33.600 how to break free, we've got two different angles 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:35.939 we're going to talk about from that. But where 00:00:35.939 --> 00:00:38.759 do you want to start? Well, it's funny because 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:41.939 you said, oh, you've done these things. I'm like, 00:00:41.979 --> 00:00:45.719 yes, and I'm still falling on my face. Why? Because 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:49.259 I am like the president of the dangerously overeducated 00:00:49.259 --> 00:00:53.719 club over here. That's fair. And I want to love 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:57.679 this because we're diving into humility on the 00:00:57.679 --> 00:01:00.359 level of confidence. My friends, humility is 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:02.659 a full appreciation for oneself and everything 00:01:02.659 --> 00:01:04.879 else in the world, too. And so thank you for 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.120 being being able and willing to own the fact 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:09.180 that you've studied your butt off throughout 00:01:09.180 --> 00:01:11.239 life. Right. You've been educated and educating. 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:14.879 So, you know what? What does the danger look 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:17.819 like, though? Because some of us may be in that 00:01:17.819 --> 00:01:20.519 danger zone, but our blinders may be keeping 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:22.640 us from seeing what we're doing to ourselves. 00:01:23.180 --> 00:01:24.920 So it's funny. I've learned that the blinders 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:27.799 actually have layers that get peeled off. Oh, 00:01:27.939 --> 00:01:31.659 nice. As we're going, they're like, oh, look, 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:34.780 I can see. Oh, no, I didn't see. Oh, crap. Okay, 00:01:34.859 --> 00:01:38.140 here we go again. Because literally what the 00:01:38.140 --> 00:01:40.959 blinders look like is being with a very high 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:44.219 level coach, having tremendous access to a coach 00:01:44.219 --> 00:01:54.280 and not being coachable. Tell us more. There's 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:56.079 a, there's a phrase, you know, in entrepreneurial 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:59.200 life, you know, model, then modify, right? Do 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:03.939 what works. Even from the standpoint of I ran 00:02:03.939 --> 00:02:07.489 my practice differently. From my standpoint, 00:02:07.609 --> 00:02:09.349 right? I had a super leaky bucket, but I was 00:02:09.349 --> 00:02:11.849 running it really well from my standpoint two 00:02:11.849 --> 00:02:14.150 years ago. So what did I do? I stopped doing 00:02:14.150 --> 00:02:18.050 it that way. Why? Oh, no, I know better. Hold 00:02:18.050 --> 00:02:20.669 on. I think I can do this better. No, how about 00:02:20.669 --> 00:02:25.050 you just do what works? Model, then modify. Do 00:02:25.050 --> 00:02:27.030 what your coach tells you. Do what the people 00:02:27.030 --> 00:02:31.830 who are winning tell you. I want to hit this 00:02:31.830 --> 00:02:33.590 coaching topic, though, kind of hard because 00:02:33.590 --> 00:02:37.530 I feel like there's so many underqualified and 00:02:37.530 --> 00:02:40.610 not great coaches in the world. And look, if 00:02:40.610 --> 00:02:43.289 you follow the Sacramento Kings game plan for 00:02:43.289 --> 00:02:45.449 winning the NBA championship, you're never going 00:02:45.449 --> 00:02:48.270 to win. And so there are levels to this coaching 00:02:48.270 --> 00:02:51.310 thing. Again, I mentioned Dan Martell. You've 00:02:51.310 --> 00:02:54.949 coached with him. He's one of the best. Are you 00:02:54.949 --> 00:02:57.580 just saying just like... So be a yes man to all 00:02:57.580 --> 00:02:59.620 coaches who come your way, or let's break down 00:02:59.620 --> 00:03:02.080 the nuances of recognizing a great coach and 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:04.740 knowing where your education protects you versus 00:03:04.740 --> 00:03:06.919 where your education may be throwing you off 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:08.819 and putting you back in that cage. You know, 00:03:08.860 --> 00:03:10.860 that's a, that's a really good point because 00:03:10.860 --> 00:03:13.319 I had actually someone tell me, Oh, I don't think, 00:03:13.340 --> 00:03:16.580 and this is specifically about Dan because I, 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:19.520 on like where he comes from resonates with where 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:22.900 I come from. I think that's your first. Well, 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.460 one of the items, because I had coaches before 00:03:25.460 --> 00:03:28.439 Dan that were good. They didn't come from the 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:30.500 same place, but they did give me very good information. 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:34.620 But once I understood Dan's origin story and 00:03:34.620 --> 00:03:37.000 his vision to where he's going, it is so much 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:40.939 larger than I can even fathom. So I fit within 00:03:40.939 --> 00:03:46.680 that container. That to me, my prior coaches 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:48.460 that were really good, they got me started, right? 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:50.900 Got a nice little springboard or not. Some of 00:03:50.900 --> 00:03:52.900 them taught me exactly how not to be. Those were 00:03:52.900 --> 00:03:55.259 a couple of five figure mistakes there. Let's 00:03:55.259 --> 00:04:01.020 just roll with that. But it's really a good coach 00:04:01.020 --> 00:04:04.259 is different and a good coach will change throughout 00:04:04.259 --> 00:04:07.840 your journey as well. Sure. Well, and I'm going 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:10.240 to play devil's advocate on my own. thoughts 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:12.439 on that because I don't think Michael Jordan's 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:15.479 shooting coach ever won a championship, but it 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:17.040 didn't make him a bad shooting coach either. 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:19.420 And so we've got to be able to recognize the 00:04:19.420 --> 00:04:22.199 qualities that are there. I recently wrote an 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:24.000 article on this called why most business coaches 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:25.819 are underqualified to guide the people that they 00:04:25.819 --> 00:04:28.560 serve. And to your point, I love the way you 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:30.860 put that, that you fit within the container of 00:04:30.860 --> 00:04:33.920 what Dan is building. And that's one of the greatest 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:36.699 challenges is most coaches. I've never built 00:04:36.699 --> 00:04:39.839 a business before. And so let's use a mindset 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:43.060 coach, for instance. It's like, OK, I could I 00:04:43.060 --> 00:04:46.620 could coach a basketball player on mindset and 00:04:46.620 --> 00:04:49.600 help him become the most resilient loser in the 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:52.860 league. Because if I don't teach him how to dribble 00:04:52.860 --> 00:04:56.199 and how to play defense and how to rebound and 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:58.660 how if I don't know those things, then I really 00:04:58.660 --> 00:05:00.519 shouldn't be calling myself a basketball coach. 00:05:01.149 --> 00:05:03.269 I see a lot of business coaches who don't know 00:05:03.269 --> 00:05:05.230 what infrastructure looks like, who don't know 00:05:05.230 --> 00:05:06.750 what team members are supposed to be involved. 00:05:06.930 --> 00:05:09.050 And somehow they're coaching a business owner 00:05:09.050 --> 00:05:12.550 for years, having never helped the person escape 00:05:12.550 --> 00:05:15.310 the solopreneur, entrepreneur reality. And it's 00:05:15.310 --> 00:05:18.009 like, what are you doing? How are you coaching 00:05:18.009 --> 00:05:20.269 them on business if you don't know how a business 00:05:20.269 --> 00:05:23.649 actually runs? It's crazy. That's a cage of its 00:05:23.649 --> 00:05:25.689 own. It is. And I'm going to play devil's advocate 00:05:25.689 --> 00:05:27.870 just a bit because I don't think they're malicious. 00:05:28.649 --> 00:05:31.389 Correct. I think they truly... Oh, the pathway 00:05:31.389 --> 00:05:33.250 to hell is paved with good intentions, isn't 00:05:33.250 --> 00:05:37.269 it? Oh, right, right. It's golden, man. But really, 00:05:37.410 --> 00:05:39.649 they're not malicious. And like my prior coaches, 00:05:39.730 --> 00:05:42.170 they truly thought they could get me where I 00:05:42.170 --> 00:05:47.509 wanted to go. Yes. They could not. Think about 00:05:47.509 --> 00:05:50.410 this. I'm with a very good coach. And finally, 00:05:50.449 --> 00:05:52.990 I'm coming up on exactly two years this month. 00:05:53.110 --> 00:05:56.730 I have 10 days left. Put my money up, not my 00:05:56.730 --> 00:06:00.550 funny up, as my kid says. But I've coming up 00:06:00.550 --> 00:06:03.329 on two years and it has taken me this long to 00:06:03.329 --> 00:06:06.689 swing three, like not just literally the pendulum 00:06:06.689 --> 00:06:09.769 had to swing to find the barriers of that cage 00:06:09.769 --> 00:06:13.970 you're talking about. Because I didn't know. 00:06:14.009 --> 00:06:16.689 And now I'm settled. I'm like, oh, this is the 00:06:16.689 --> 00:06:20.180 way I do this. but it took me hitting those walls. 00:06:20.420 --> 00:06:22.959 It literally, it's like bumper cars took me hitting 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:25.839 the walls and figuring out, well, this doesn't 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:28.040 feel good. This is really what I want to do. 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:31.620 You do, but not in that way. This is what you 00:06:31.620 --> 00:06:33.600 really want to do. And that's how we get to like 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:35.300 the zone of genius versus zone of excellence, 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:37.980 right? We keep meandering until we hit those 00:06:37.980 --> 00:06:42.620 pain points. Yeah. And here I am. I'm really 00:06:42.620 --> 00:06:44.439 happy that you said that. We had another guest 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:47.660 come on the show who's been in minor league baseball 00:06:47.660 --> 00:06:50.180 as a professional and got a bunch of kids as 00:06:50.180 --> 00:06:52.759 well. Great guy. He was talking about, maybe 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:54.899 some of you guys can delineate down to who it 00:06:54.899 --> 00:06:57.379 is, but he was talking about how he doesn't want 00:06:57.379 --> 00:06:59.819 to expand the size of his cage, you know, his 00:06:59.819 --> 00:07:02.220 golden cage that he has. Oh man. Right. And that's 00:07:02.220 --> 00:07:08.300 again, right. If we, absolutely. First, we have 00:07:08.300 --> 00:07:10.279 to be able to see it. So we've, we've talked 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:13.610 a little bit about. ways to break free by making 00:07:13.610 --> 00:07:15.269 sure that we're educating ourself and make sure 00:07:15.269 --> 00:07:17.509 that we have a coach. I want to talk about the 00:07:17.509 --> 00:07:19.870 other side of breaking free from this cage, though. 00:07:20.189 --> 00:07:23.050 I see so many professions. It boggles my mind 00:07:23.050 --> 00:07:26.750 how many professionals that have very, very good 00:07:26.750 --> 00:07:29.709 credentials accidentally posture as a means to 00:07:29.709 --> 00:07:32.189 showcase their value. And I think that's a very 00:07:32.189 --> 00:07:34.069 different set of handcuffs or cage. And what 00:07:34.069 --> 00:07:36.689 I mean by that, my friends, is the doctors who 00:07:36.689 --> 00:07:38.470 have a tendency to say, trust me, I'm a doctor. 00:07:39.370 --> 00:07:41.250 It's like, no, I'm not trusting you just because 00:07:41.250 --> 00:07:42.750 you have a piece of paper on your wall. Like, 00:07:42.750 --> 00:07:45.149 that's not happening. And that's not good leadership. 00:07:45.610 --> 00:07:48.250 And so, you know, or, oh, I have a million views 00:07:48.250 --> 00:07:50.410 on my TED Talk. And so what I said must be important. 00:07:51.170 --> 00:07:53.610 You know, that's not substance. And so I see 00:07:53.610 --> 00:07:56.319 a lot of people. They get to this point of where 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:59.379 they have these credentials that they hide behind 00:07:59.379 --> 00:08:01.160 or position in front of themselves. And maybe 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:02.959 they think, well, I didn't mean it like it doesn't 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:04.800 matter. It's what the audience heard. We all 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:08.060 heard you just use your credentials to try to 00:08:08.060 --> 00:08:10.300 make yourself important or make what your point 00:08:10.300 --> 00:08:13.899 is important rather than learning that. You got 00:08:13.899 --> 00:08:16.139 it. You got to create clarity around what it 00:08:16.139 --> 00:08:18.699 is that you talk about. If you don't want that 00:08:18.699 --> 00:08:21.600 to become a new type of chain for yourself. Thoughts 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:27.860 on that, Dr. Mo. I agree 100%. And we do it innately, 00:08:27.939 --> 00:08:32.179 I think, because we are broken as physicians 00:08:32.179 --> 00:08:34.740 by design. They break us down and then they build 00:08:34.740 --> 00:08:37.120 us up in the image of a physician. Now, what 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:38.759 that looks like today versus what it looked like 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:41.340 100 years ago, those are in conflict and we're 00:08:41.340 --> 00:08:42.899 having trouble with that right now, with the 00:08:42.899 --> 00:08:45.679 reconciliation of that. But as you're speaking, 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:51.279 I realized that... I am not an authority in this 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:55.240 space because I am Maureen Gibbons MD. I'm an 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.639 authority in this space because I'm Dr. Mo and 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:00.919 I get what you're going through. Talk to me more 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:04.440 about that. It's not the degree on the wall. 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:07.299 It's not the biochemistry classes. It's not the 00:09:07.299 --> 00:09:10.159 30 -hour shifts in residency. Yes, there's 30. 00:09:10.220 --> 00:09:14.080 It's legal. But it's not those. Those did break 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:16.740 me down to be the person I am. broke you down, 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:19.240 build you up because you have to do that. I talked 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:21.320 about it today on a live, actually on a public 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.480 live, you know, that you have to be the kind 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:25.379 of person who walks in, pronounces someone dead 00:09:25.379 --> 00:09:28.279 and then treats the person who killed them. That's 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.580 reality. When they say, trust me, I'm a doctor, 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:36.399 it's because they have to. It's the way they 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:38.399 stand up. Now, on the other hand, when you look 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:43.340 at a good leader, trust me because I worked out 00:09:43.340 --> 00:09:45.720 this morning. And I have the knowledge to help 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:49.559 you. There's a difference. I mean, that feeling. 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:54.639 Correct. Trust me because I trust myself. That's 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:59.460 a leader. That's huge. And that leans into Ali 00:09:59.460 --> 00:10:01.779 Abdaal. Yeah, I love him. He's a very famous, 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:04.240 you know, 6 .6 million followers on YouTube. 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:08.179 And when he was training us at a Kajabi event, 00:10:08.419 --> 00:10:11.360 he said that, you know, he just speaks from his 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:14.570 own personal experience. The military does this 00:10:14.570 --> 00:10:18.149 too. It's called pulling rank. It doesn't help 00:10:18.149 --> 00:10:20.730 you with those who you're leading. It does work 00:10:20.730 --> 00:10:26.450 in its essence temporarily, but it also completely 00:10:26.450 --> 00:10:29.490 disrupts and erodes the brand and the integrity 00:10:29.490 --> 00:10:32.490 of the authority that exists there. And so it's 00:10:32.490 --> 00:10:35.809 super helpful. So all of you who don't have the 00:10:35.809 --> 00:10:40.029 letters doctor in front of your name, I don't 00:10:40.029 --> 00:10:42.269 have it either. I don't have a degree myself. 00:10:43.230 --> 00:10:45.470 I also strive really hard not to pull the founder 00:10:45.470 --> 00:10:50.669 card in situations where I'm trying to influence 00:10:50.669 --> 00:10:53.429 or inspire my team. I'm guilty of doing it. But 00:10:53.429 --> 00:10:56.370 I can tell you every single time I've done it, 00:10:56.409 --> 00:11:00.250 it has slowed us to a screeching halt. It has 00:11:00.250 --> 00:11:03.009 caused the challenger a problem. And then I'm 00:11:03.009 --> 00:11:05.049 trying to back out of that. And the sooner I 00:11:05.049 --> 00:11:08.750 just own what I did wrong as a leader and help 00:11:08.750 --> 00:11:11.370 them see like, okay. Nope, we are all on the 00:11:11.370 --> 00:11:13.429 same page here. We are all trying to build this. 00:11:13.909 --> 00:11:16.049 Well, guess what? Now I have to earn that trust 00:11:16.049 --> 00:11:19.769 back too. And so it is a very, very bad thing 00:11:19.769 --> 00:11:22.370 to do to use our credentials to try to get our 00:11:22.370 --> 00:11:24.690 point across. And it doesn't mean our credentials 00:11:24.690 --> 00:11:27.110 don't matter. It's just learning how to be responsible 00:11:27.110 --> 00:11:30.509 and intentional with how we choose to lead. We're 00:11:30.509 --> 00:11:33.470 going to be diving in quite a bit further into 00:11:33.470 --> 00:11:36.870 other aspects of these angles and also a freedom 00:11:36.870 --> 00:11:40.210 framework that Dr. Mo built for herself. And 00:11:40.210 --> 00:11:41.669 that helped her get to a full -time income in 00:11:41.669 --> 00:11:43.129 six months. We'll talk more about the details 00:11:43.129 --> 00:11:46.529 on that too. Mo, is there any other piece of 00:11:46.529 --> 00:11:47.850 wisdom that you want to share before we take 00:11:47.850 --> 00:11:49.809 a quick break? Anything that just comes to your 00:11:49.809 --> 00:11:52.549 mind about what we're talking about? I just think 00:11:52.549 --> 00:11:56.389 it's really important, like you said, to sit 00:11:56.389 --> 00:12:00.429 in who you are. Before the letters, beyond the 00:12:00.429 --> 00:12:03.450 letters, beyond the piece of paper, beyond that 00:12:03.450 --> 00:12:09.049 cage. Who you are is not constrained. You're 00:12:09.049 --> 00:12:12.909 an elephant tied to a stick. Ooh, interesting. 00:12:13.210 --> 00:12:16.789 And that goes into one of my favorite TED Talks 00:12:16.789 --> 00:12:20.950 by J .P. Sears. Gave a talk on being authentically 00:12:20.950 --> 00:12:23.549 ourself. It is one of the most liberating aspects 00:12:23.549 --> 00:12:27.250 that we can dive into is how to unlock, tap into 00:12:27.250 --> 00:12:29.830 our inner genius, our inner realism, who we really 00:12:29.830 --> 00:12:31.769 are. I love that you led with that. Thank you, 00:12:31.789 --> 00:12:34.009 Dr. Mo. We'll be right back. All right. Welcome 00:12:34.009 --> 00:12:37.429 in to Vision Pros Live. With Jackson Callum, 00:12:37.429 --> 00:12:39.370 I'm your show host. We'll be doing interviews 00:12:39.370 --> 00:12:41.909 for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders 00:12:41.909 --> 00:12:44.450 who are building fantastic visions out there. 00:12:53.769 --> 00:12:57.250 Hey, my friends, today's talk is super raw and 00:12:57.250 --> 00:12:59.850 real, not incredibly cerebral, which I'm really 00:12:59.850 --> 00:13:01.909 excited about because most doctors come on, they 00:13:01.909 --> 00:13:03.970 just want to talk stats and they just want to 00:13:03.970 --> 00:13:07.629 dive into frameworks only. But with Mo, Dr. Mo 00:13:07.629 --> 00:13:09.269 Gibbons, we're actually going to be talking a 00:13:09.269 --> 00:13:12.450 lot about some very real emotional intelligence 00:13:12.450 --> 00:13:15.570 factors for leaders and aspects of leadership 00:13:15.570 --> 00:13:18.629 that every single visionary needs to really understand 00:13:18.629 --> 00:13:20.850 if you're going to scale and become relevant 00:13:20.850 --> 00:13:24.220 on a On a level where you've got thousands of 00:13:24.220 --> 00:13:26.679 people, millions of people, or billions of people 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:29.779 following you, it's so important to know as you 00:13:29.779 --> 00:13:32.500 gain those levels of authority, how to balance 00:13:32.500 --> 00:13:35.519 the art of still being relatable and working 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:38.259 with people and appreciating people on an individual 00:13:38.259 --> 00:13:40.759 level while not allowing your credentials to 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:42.620 create different types of cages for you. Because 00:13:42.620 --> 00:13:44.419 there are lots of traps that you can fall in. 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:46.279 As a leader for this, I've fallen into many myself. 00:13:46.779 --> 00:13:48.980 Before I bring Mo back on, I also want to provide 00:13:48.980 --> 00:13:51.730 you guys another couple of resources. One is 00:13:51.730 --> 00:13:54.169 AI Mavericks. In fact, we had Scott Simpson, 00:13:54.309 --> 00:13:56.129 one of the founders of AI Mavericks on the show 00:13:56.129 --> 00:13:58.710 yesterday, and Austin Armstrong is his business 00:13:58.710 --> 00:14:01.889 partner. Yes, I have the AI marketplace. That's 00:14:01.889 --> 00:14:04.450 my community as well, but I'm also involved in 00:14:04.450 --> 00:14:07.029 other AI marketplaces. I would consider this 00:14:07.029 --> 00:14:08.929 like continued education. You want to learn from 00:14:08.929 --> 00:14:10.950 as many sources as you can. We all stand on the 00:14:10.950 --> 00:14:12.929 shoulders of giants. These are the two of the 00:14:12.929 --> 00:14:16.190 giants whose shoulders I stand on. And I've seen 00:14:16.190 --> 00:14:19.529 them for the last year dive into advanced AI 00:14:19.529 --> 00:14:22.460 with... integrity that i don't see happen too 00:14:22.460 --> 00:14:25.120 often in the market and so uh definitely check 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:28.379 out joining austin and scott simpson and seeing 00:14:28.379 --> 00:14:30.919 their posts the ai marketplace is something that 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:32.899 i designed to help professionals and business 00:14:32.899 --> 00:14:36.860 owners understand how to implement ai today it 00:14:36.860 --> 00:14:39.769 may not be the most advanced of technical solutions, 00:14:39.990 --> 00:14:42.830 but ironically, Boston College University said 00:14:42.830 --> 00:14:45.210 that 70 % of our time needs to be focused on 00:14:45.210 --> 00:14:47.710 training the people and the processes for AI, 00:14:47.950 --> 00:14:50.230 not the actual technology itself. So there's 00:14:50.230 --> 00:14:53.309 a lot of really crappy stuff that's being built 00:14:53.309 --> 00:14:55.429 by AI right now. And look no further than giant 00:14:55.429 --> 00:14:58.049 companies like RingCentral who have awful customer 00:14:58.049 --> 00:15:00.610 support systems because they've put AI in between 00:15:00.610 --> 00:15:03.169 their people and the people they serve. Not a 00:15:03.169 --> 00:15:05.230 good thing, RingCentral, by the way. Anyway, 00:15:05.370 --> 00:15:07.909 let me move on from my hate of their current 00:15:07.909 --> 00:15:10.820 customers. service. My friends, you got to find 00:15:10.820 --> 00:15:12.480 out what are the bottlenecks that you have that 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:13.740 are truly addressable and what are you going 00:15:13.740 --> 00:15:16.240 to build that's productive and profitable? And 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:18.840 I don't see too many AI trainings out there based 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:20.860 on that. I see a lot of people building really 00:15:20.860 --> 00:15:23.500 funny things with bananas. I don't totally get 00:15:23.500 --> 00:15:25.039 it, but I really like it. I'm like, it's neat 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:28.220 and it's helpful from a personal standpoint, 00:15:28.419 --> 00:15:30.720 I guess, but business owners need profitability. 00:15:31.179 --> 00:15:33.909 If you can reposition yourself. with the knowledge 00:15:33.909 --> 00:15:36.909 you already have and learn how to train ai as 00:15:36.909 --> 00:15:39.309 a true leader ai needs you to step up as a leader 00:15:39.309 --> 00:15:41.429 so professionals you can do that business owners 00:15:41.429 --> 00:15:43.409 you can also come in and benefit to see how are 00:15:43.409 --> 00:15:45.929 we using this for our own brands and we're building 00:15:45.929 --> 00:15:48.230 an ecosystem of people to come together so that 00:15:48.230 --> 00:15:51.909 the rising tide lifts all ships we have a program 00:15:51.909 --> 00:15:55.309 for founding members right now 50 a month for 00:15:55.309 --> 00:15:58.700 founding members or 500 for lifetime access More 00:15:58.700 --> 00:16:00.299 importantly, for those of you who don't have 00:16:00.299 --> 00:16:02.399 the financial means to commit to this, there's 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:04.379 a button on there that says get the free grant. 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:06.379 You can come in for free. I don't want anybody 00:16:06.379 --> 00:16:08.580 left behind in the world of AI. I want everybody 00:16:08.580 --> 00:16:10.139 to be able to come in here and benefit from this. 00:16:10.340 --> 00:16:12.559 So just apply for the grant. See what the rules 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:14.419 are for the grant process. They're quite simple. 00:16:14.779 --> 00:16:17.299 If you're one who is willing to give, you are 00:16:17.299 --> 00:16:19.720 also one who is willing to get in the process. 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:22.639 Now moving to the water project. The water project 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:24.860 is something that when I first saw it, I didn't 00:16:24.860 --> 00:16:27.279 get it. I've never been thirsty in my life. That's 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:29.600 probably why I didn't get it. A team member really 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:32.419 didn't force me to look at it, but she really 00:16:32.419 --> 00:16:34.500 pushed on the idea that I should pay attention 00:16:34.500 --> 00:16:37.440 to it. And so I'm glad I did because I saw that 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:40.039 these kids, they have to leave school. just to 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:42.399 find water for their community. And their parents 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:44.259 often have to leave work to find water. And you 00:16:44.259 --> 00:16:46.679 can imagine how excited our employers would be 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:48.259 if we said, hey, I got to leave to go get some 00:16:48.259 --> 00:16:49.799 essential resources for my family. We'd probably 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:52.399 get fired just for that. Well, we've got millions 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:54.440 of people in Africa who don't have access to 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:56.639 one of the most essential resources on the planet. 00:16:56.899 --> 00:16:59.500 And I love that the Water Project shows us exactly 00:16:59.500 --> 00:17:01.600 what they're doing. And the kids who celebrate 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:04.019 water, they celebrate water like my kids celebrate 00:17:04.019 --> 00:17:06.359 Christmas Day. we have the ability to make that 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:08.480 type of generational impact and what's really 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:10.940 neat about the water project If you pick a specific 00:17:10.940 --> 00:17:13.220 project and you donate to it, they'll send you 00:17:13.220 --> 00:17:15.259 an update so you can see what's happening with 00:17:15.259 --> 00:17:17.220 the community, what is it they're building, and 00:17:17.220 --> 00:17:19.519 you get to see it come to fruition. So I love 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:20.980 the level of transparency they've created in 00:17:20.980 --> 00:17:22.900 that. My friends, we've got 8 billion people 00:17:22.900 --> 00:17:24.640 to help in this world. If you know of another 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:26.480 cause that you'd like to see us support, please 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:28.920 do us all a favor. Drop the link to the cause 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:30.700 in the comments. I'll personally take a look 00:17:30.700 --> 00:17:32.579 at every single one of those. We might throw 00:17:32.579 --> 00:17:34.099 it on the show as well and talk about it. You 00:17:34.099 --> 00:17:36.420 never know how far the ripple effect of good 00:17:36.420 --> 00:17:38.740 will go when you just share with others. So let's 00:17:38.740 --> 00:17:40.279 get back to helping. every single one of you 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:42.579 with your visions. I'm going to bring Dr. Mo 00:17:42.579 --> 00:17:44.420 Gibbons back on and we're going to dive into 00:17:44.420 --> 00:17:48.359 these credentials and these cages that they create. 00:17:48.539 --> 00:17:50.779 So again, welcome and thank you for being here, 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:55.440 Mo. Thank you so much. Absolutely. So, you know, 00:17:55.460 --> 00:17:57.039 we're going to explore this again, two different 00:17:57.039 --> 00:17:59.940 angles, but as I mentioned, every visionary is 00:17:59.940 --> 00:18:02.240 going to eventually face this type of obstacle. 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:04.519 Before we dive back into the obstacles themselves, 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:07.039 though, I'd love to hear your version of your 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:09.779 story, Dr. Mo. Tell us about your path and your 00:18:09.779 --> 00:18:13.680 journey to where you're at today. Well, I think 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:17.700 the most important shift that I've had, pun intended 00:18:17.700 --> 00:18:20.339 with the book, it's called Freedom to Shift is 00:18:20.339 --> 00:18:24.920 the book. But I use the word shift often because 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:27.799 I think the most important thing that I've done 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:31.680 is the identity shift that took me about a year 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:36.700 and a half. I've been a doctor for almost 20 00:18:36.700 --> 00:18:39.000 years, traditionally trained in emergency medicine. 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:44.339 Of course, did some things before that. And when 00:18:44.339 --> 00:18:47.940 the shoes started to feel too small, I started 00:18:47.940 --> 00:18:51.380 asking for improvements in the department. I 00:18:51.380 --> 00:18:55.039 started to not fit any longer. And any visionary 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:59.359 out there who works for someone else, It works 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:02.019 in a system that is designed. It's working as 00:19:02.019 --> 00:19:05.539 designed, right? Taking care of the people. You'll 00:19:05.539 --> 00:19:08.579 feel this. Where I, oh, can we do this? Can we 00:19:08.579 --> 00:19:12.259 do that? And natural leaders sort of gravitate 00:19:12.259 --> 00:19:17.160 into trying to make things better. So it wasn't 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:20.420 working. And I've been trying for 45 years or 00:19:20.420 --> 00:19:22.680 so to get my own health in check, honestly. And 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:25.309 I'm not exaggerating. 48 at the time, I went 00:19:25.309 --> 00:19:27.150 on my first diet at age one. This is not a new 00:19:27.150 --> 00:19:30.250 concept for me. But I didn't know it was a biological 00:19:30.250 --> 00:19:33.069 thing at the time. I just thought it was willpower 00:19:33.069 --> 00:19:34.690 because that's what I was told for many, many 00:19:34.690 --> 00:19:39.650 years. And when I started, I hit a point July 00:19:39.650 --> 00:19:43.329 4th, 2022, I hired my first business coach, my 00:19:43.329 --> 00:19:45.369 first new business coach, because I said, I'm 00:19:45.369 --> 00:19:46.910 never hiring another business coach. I'm never 00:19:46.910 --> 00:19:49.710 peeing any more money down the drain. This is 00:19:49.710 --> 00:19:53.910 not doing it. I buy a book, but I'm not hiring 00:19:53.910 --> 00:19:56.970 a coach. I hired a coach that day and I started 00:19:56.970 --> 00:19:59.670 on a different aspect of my health journey. And 00:19:59.670 --> 00:20:02.769 within two weeks, my business started to take 00:20:02.769 --> 00:20:06.890 off. And I ended up, I was talking to a woman 00:20:06.890 --> 00:20:10.289 and online. So what I was doing as I was going 00:20:10.289 --> 00:20:12.410 through my journey, I started hopping on Reddit, 00:20:12.589 --> 00:20:15.390 Discord, you know, all the places, helping other 00:20:15.390 --> 00:20:18.950 people navigate their journeys. And I had a woman 00:20:18.950 --> 00:20:20.789 say to me, wait a minute, you're a doctor? And 00:20:20.789 --> 00:20:22.700 I said, yeah. She said, can you be my doctor? 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:25.839 I said, I don't know, maybe. And she was my first 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:29.460 patient. So I literally created a multimillion 00:20:29.460 --> 00:20:32.940 dollar telehealth practice by accident. Wow. 00:20:34.180 --> 00:20:36.700 Okay. So you created that telehealth practice. 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:41.119 Was that in 2022? That was July 15th, 2022. Okay. 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:44.420 After the emergency room trainings and all the 00:20:44.420 --> 00:20:45.940 things you've done, I love what you said about 00:20:45.940 --> 00:20:49.579 how the shoes started to fit too small. You could 00:20:49.579 --> 00:20:53.200 feel that it wasn't, that's such a relevant reality 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.680 for the entrepreneurs and the visionaries who 00:20:56.680 --> 00:20:58.019 are building out there. You're going to face 00:20:58.019 --> 00:20:59.880 those realities sometimes within your own brand. 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:02.579 And sometimes if you're like I was, I was playing 00:21:02.579 --> 00:21:04.160 the role of the integrator for a lot of brands 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:06.299 and a lot of visionaries. And so I was building 00:21:06.299 --> 00:21:09.240 other people's visions. incubating in preparation 00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:11.920 to one day launch mine when I finally realized 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:13.700 like, okay, I'm ready for this. They probably 00:21:13.700 --> 00:21:16.900 destroyed a few shoes with my foot size before 00:21:16.900 --> 00:21:19.460 deciding like, okay, yeah, no, I should probably 00:21:19.460 --> 00:21:22.579 move on and do this. So the freedom framework 00:21:22.579 --> 00:21:25.640 that you built after replacing your full -time 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:27.960 income in that six months, walk us through the 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:31.079 replacement process of six months. Was it a magic 00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:33.859 fairy dust path that was so easy to bring to 00:21:33.859 --> 00:21:35.619 fruition? And then we'll go into the framework. 00:21:36.329 --> 00:21:38.789 I wish. It was rainbows, unicorns, the whole 00:21:38.789 --> 00:21:43.369 deal. No, it was not. It was not. I was still 00:21:43.369 --> 00:21:45.109 working full -time. I still worked full -time 00:21:45.109 --> 00:21:49.369 for about another year. Actually, I didn't even 00:21:49.369 --> 00:21:53.210 drop. I asked to drop a shift about nine months 00:21:53.210 --> 00:21:56.269 in because I was making two -thirds of my income. 00:21:56.369 --> 00:21:58.930 And I finally asked my boss, I want to drop a 00:21:58.930 --> 00:22:00.329 couple shifts because I had told him three years 00:22:00.329 --> 00:22:02.250 before, hey, listen, as soon as I can decompress, 00:22:02.269 --> 00:22:04.470 I know I can be a better doctor if I had a bit 00:22:04.470 --> 00:22:08.829 more bandwidth. So this is what I asked, and 00:22:08.829 --> 00:22:15.049 I promptly got removed from my job. Oh. So this 00:22:15.049 --> 00:22:18.430 wasn't where, oh, I graduated and had all this 00:22:18.430 --> 00:22:21.410 nobility where I'm ready to strike out on my 00:22:21.410 --> 00:22:24.750 own. I mean, I was making two -thirds of my income. 00:22:25.630 --> 00:22:28.910 I still had a full -time job, but they put me 00:22:28.910 --> 00:22:32.269 in a small emergency department. I was put out 00:22:32.269 --> 00:22:35.089 to pasture, so to speak. I've been in this career 00:22:35.089 --> 00:22:37.289 a long time. I lasted much longer than most women 00:22:37.289 --> 00:22:42.289 and most men as well. Men stick it out longer 00:22:42.289 --> 00:22:46.670 because they have to in today's society. Take 00:22:46.670 --> 00:22:54.329 that for what it is. It's reality. Talk to us 00:22:54.329 --> 00:22:59.450 about that. Why is that? Women, especially with 00:22:59.450 --> 00:23:02.680 what has happened in the past seven or eight 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:07.960 years six years or so uh women I believe have 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:13.900 we're not going to take any more time away from 00:23:13.900 --> 00:23:18.940 our children like there's a pull that we now 00:23:18.940 --> 00:23:21.220 I also understand from the male perspective they 00:23:21.220 --> 00:23:23.279 have to provide for said children as well sure 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:25.980 and I believe it's innate I don't and I'm not 00:23:25.980 --> 00:23:27.819 saying every man and every woman but I'm saying 00:23:27.819 --> 00:23:34.549 as a whole what I see right And I, when my son 00:23:34.549 --> 00:23:36.549 was born, for example, I worked half time for 00:23:36.549 --> 00:23:40.349 two years, which was a gift that my husband gave 00:23:40.349 --> 00:23:43.990 me, right? By allowing, not allowing, but you 00:23:43.990 --> 00:23:45.329 know, it was a family decision. You guys worked 00:23:45.329 --> 00:23:49.970 together on it. Yes. And especially when we had 00:23:49.970 --> 00:23:53.789 to homeschool our children for a while, a lot 00:23:53.789 --> 00:23:56.049 of doctors just said, I'm not going to do this. 00:23:57.170 --> 00:23:59.410 My kids come first. I can't do it. I'm staying 00:23:59.410 --> 00:24:02.309 home. And because the level of stress, like I 00:24:02.309 --> 00:24:05.750 said, the stress is no joke because you literally 00:24:05.750 --> 00:24:10.470 have lives in your hand. But it's just a really 00:24:10.470 --> 00:24:14.210 interesting dichotomy. I actually have a friend 00:24:14.210 --> 00:24:17.769 who said, I can't work fewer shifts because I 00:24:17.769 --> 00:24:23.390 have an expensive wife style. And I had never 00:24:23.390 --> 00:24:25.349 heard that said before. And I thought, oh, I 00:24:25.349 --> 00:24:28.910 have an expensive wife style. Wife style. Yeah. 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:34.519 And because doctors make good money. I'm not 00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:38.720 going to, we make good money. Sure. Except we 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:42.680 make just enough to stop us from wanting to make 00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:47.599 more. Just an, oh, okay. Gotcha. So there's, 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:50.880 there's some complacency that it sounds like 00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:54.700 creeps in. Complacency and the elephant tied 00:24:54.700 --> 00:24:57.720 to the stick. We think we can't go anywhere. 00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:01.000 Oh, I'm trained as a doctor. What else do I know 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:03.059 how to do? I'm sorry. If you can run a trauma 00:25:03.059 --> 00:25:05.140 at three in the morning, you can do a lot of 00:25:05.140 --> 00:25:08.079 things in business. I hate to tell you. Right. 00:25:08.460 --> 00:25:10.440 I'll say the same thing with professional athletes. 00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:14.299 It makes me sad. How many athletes think that 00:25:14.299 --> 00:25:17.579 there's just a dumb jock when in reality, holy 00:25:17.579 --> 00:25:19.440 crap, the amount of lessons they've learned on 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:22.539 operations and teamwork and leadership. And you 00:25:22.539 --> 00:25:25.220 can just keep going through that list. They are 00:25:25.220 --> 00:25:27.500 well prepared and suited for entrepreneurship. 00:25:28.329 --> 00:25:30.950 A hundred percent. Yeah. I have a lot of professional 00:25:30.950 --> 00:25:33.890 triathletes that stay with me, um, stay in our 00:25:33.890 --> 00:25:36.690 home and our home throughout the year. And we 00:25:36.690 --> 00:25:39.250 watch them and it's, it's kind of fun sometimes 00:25:39.250 --> 00:25:42.349 watching them when their careers do end, not 00:25:42.349 --> 00:25:45.509 fun for some, but a lot of them watching them 00:25:45.509 --> 00:25:49.490 shift into their new, their second part of life, 00:25:49.549 --> 00:25:51.509 because that's what we think, right? We think, 00:25:51.509 --> 00:25:54.490 oh, of course an athlete's going to retire. And 00:25:54.490 --> 00:25:56.970 I heard it once said, every job has an expiration 00:25:56.970 --> 00:26:02.170 date. And I thought, oh, doctors don't think 00:26:02.170 --> 00:26:04.309 that. And the public doesn't think doctors should. 00:26:05.309 --> 00:26:09.230 Right. As well. And there's a lot. And I wouldn't 00:26:09.230 --> 00:26:10.970 worry too much if your doctor wouldn't worry 00:26:10.970 --> 00:26:13.450 about public opinion. Just saying, you know, 00:26:13.490 --> 00:26:16.049 General Pop is not going to guide you on a on 00:26:16.049 --> 00:26:18.750 a lesson on the path that is not General Pop. 00:26:18.950 --> 00:26:21.390 You've got you've got a different lifestyle that 00:26:21.390 --> 00:26:24.369 you need to live. And so with that, though, I 00:26:24.369 --> 00:26:27.150 think that I'm speculating here. But if I were 00:26:27.150 --> 00:26:29.759 a doctor. And I had studied hard pretty much 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:32.259 by myself for the seven years. And I go through 00:26:32.259 --> 00:26:33.740 residency and all that. I've done everything 00:26:33.740 --> 00:26:36.440 me, me, me. Right. And then get involved in the 00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:39.460 system where I am. I still refer somebody as 00:26:39.460 --> 00:26:42.880 a boss. And so I've got this mentality of employee. 00:26:43.460 --> 00:26:45.839 Now it's time for me to consider going off on 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:49.660 my own. I could see myself accidentally staying 00:26:49.660 --> 00:26:52.970 in my cage. especially as a man, why men are 00:26:52.970 --> 00:26:56.589 from Mars, women are from Venus. As men, we love 00:26:56.589 --> 00:26:58.730 to go into our little caves and build things 00:26:58.730 --> 00:27:00.569 by ourselves. We're not going to go ask for help. 00:27:00.710 --> 00:27:03.609 We don't want help from others, but you're going 00:27:03.609 --> 00:27:06.490 to create a train wreck of a business by yourself 00:27:06.490 --> 00:27:09.309 in that reality versus, look, if you got to stay 00:27:09.309 --> 00:27:11.210 in the cage, that's fine, but expand your cage 00:27:11.210 --> 00:27:12.970 to the size where at least a couple of executives 00:27:12.970 --> 00:27:15.549 can come in and guide you on that. And that's 00:27:15.549 --> 00:27:17.470 where I would say back to credentials being a 00:27:17.470 --> 00:27:19.650 cage. That's one of the most common mistakes 00:27:19.650 --> 00:27:22.140 I see of, entrepreneurs, whether they're a doctor 00:27:22.140 --> 00:27:24.700 or whether they ended up getting five to 10 years 00:27:24.700 --> 00:27:28.039 of experience in another field, they then feel 00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:30.220 they have to go do it and have to figure it out 00:27:30.220 --> 00:27:33.819 alone. How do we help them overcome that and 00:27:33.819 --> 00:27:37.880 realize you want to get into a mastermind or 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:39.900 into the, into shape where you've got people 00:27:39.900 --> 00:27:45.099 who can help you? I honestly am not sure how 00:27:45.099 --> 00:27:48.900 to convince people that you cannot do it alone. 00:27:51.159 --> 00:27:53.019 Because they're like, well, so -and -so's nephew 00:27:53.019 --> 00:27:54.819 did it. It's like, you don't want to prepare 00:27:54.819 --> 00:27:58.500 to be the anomaly. Why do you want to try to 00:27:58.500 --> 00:28:01.660 beat the odds that are super scary and risky? 00:28:01.779 --> 00:28:05.180 Like, no, get people. So I'm glad you said that, 00:28:05.180 --> 00:28:08.440 that we don't quite know exactly how to help 00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:10.440 people see past themselves. My hope is that these 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:12.619 types of interviews, though, will lead people 00:28:12.619 --> 00:28:16.700 to say, you know what? Dr. Mo is honest. She's 00:28:16.700 --> 00:28:20.660 open about her path. And she's, you know, while 00:28:20.660 --> 00:28:22.900 you kind of judge yourself, but I think you do 00:28:22.900 --> 00:28:25.839 it with love. And so I could see you doing the 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:28.500 same thing with those individuals like, hey, 00:28:28.500 --> 00:28:31.700 I'm not here to paint you as wrong or as a failure. 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:35.539 But guys, those who listen in, visionaries, lean 00:28:35.539 --> 00:28:37.640 into leaders like this that are helping to see 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:39.500 around the corners that you have not yet been 00:28:39.500 --> 00:28:42.440 through because there are lots of them that can 00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:45.859 trip you up as you move along. So let's hear 00:28:45.859 --> 00:28:49.990 about this freedom framework. So I've come to 00:28:49.990 --> 00:28:52.470 call it a little bit even past the book because 00:28:52.470 --> 00:28:54.390 I'm writing the second book in the series now. 00:28:54.490 --> 00:28:57.029 It's the shift operating system. You know, shift 00:28:57.029 --> 00:28:59.849 stands for success happens in focused transitions. 00:29:00.609 --> 00:29:02.750 And the reason it stands for that is because 00:29:02.750 --> 00:29:06.789 I don't like being blindsided. So when I have 00:29:06.789 --> 00:29:08.990 something and it happens every day, I mean, those 00:29:08.990 --> 00:29:10.869 of you in business, like, what do you mean? Like, 00:29:10.869 --> 00:29:13.809 I don't like being blindsided, but I put myself 00:29:13.809 --> 00:29:16.589 in a level two trauma center overnight for 13 00:29:16.589 --> 00:29:20.720 years because. I like predictable, which doesn't 00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:24.619 sound at all like what I'm saying. I put myself 00:29:24.619 --> 00:29:27.220 in that situation because it's exposure therapy. 00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:31.200 It helped me learn to handle the blind side, 00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:32.799 right? You don't know what's walking in your 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:34.279 door. You don't know what somebody's going to 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.559 dump on your doorstep. So what that does is I, 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:39.480 and I didn't even realize this at the time, but 00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:43.259 that's taking that transition and making it yours. 00:29:43.740 --> 00:29:47.700 How do you? create an environment such that you 00:29:47.700 --> 00:29:51.240 can create your success. And the four anchors 00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.500 in that system are worst day system, which is 00:29:54.500 --> 00:29:57.420 the minimum amount you can do to make your success 00:29:57.420 --> 00:29:59.720 inevitable. And you are defining your success. 00:29:59.940 --> 00:30:02.079 You are painting that goalpost. You are planting 00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:05.039 it. It does not move unless you move it. So stop 00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:09.900 moving it. And so, and then there's the biology 00:30:09.900 --> 00:30:13.099 of better. You cannot ignore your health. It's 00:30:13.099 --> 00:30:16.009 just, If you have your health, you have 99 problems. 00:30:16.130 --> 00:30:17.470 If you don't have your health, you have one. 00:30:19.630 --> 00:30:22.849 The clarity process, which is finding a direction. 00:30:22.970 --> 00:30:24.970 It's not finding the perfect direction. It's 00:30:24.970 --> 00:30:27.430 just finding the next step, right? You don't 00:30:27.430 --> 00:30:28.910 need to see the whole path. You just need to 00:30:28.910 --> 00:30:31.289 see the next step. I get it. It sounds trite, 00:30:31.289 --> 00:30:36.390 but it's God's honest truth. And then the freedom 00:30:36.390 --> 00:30:39.650 filter. That's an easy one. That's, does it get 00:30:39.650 --> 00:30:42.589 me health, time, or money? If it doesn't get 00:30:42.589 --> 00:30:46.809 me those things, I don't do it. Does it give 00:30:46.809 --> 00:30:55.329 you time? Health or money. Good. I'm writing 00:30:55.329 --> 00:30:58.009 notes, my friends. I hope you guys are too. These 00:30:58.009 --> 00:30:59.789 are amazing opportunities. I want to play devil's 00:30:59.789 --> 00:31:01.450 advocate a little bit on the clarity process. 00:31:02.589 --> 00:31:06.680 I agree and I disagree. novel concept these are 00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:09.220 these are normal realities visionaries because 00:31:09.220 --> 00:31:12.119 you know if um if somebody's not taking their 00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:14.779 vitamins they probably need to take their vitamins 00:31:14.779 --> 00:31:16.660 daily from here on if somebody's taking their 00:31:16.660 --> 00:31:18.700 vitamins but they're not drinking water they 00:31:18.700 --> 00:31:21.380 probably need to drink water and so there's there's 00:31:21.380 --> 00:31:24.440 different realities on this so clarity process 00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:26.559 goes hand in hand with what i've heard from dr 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:28.480 todd snyder who's one of my favorite coaches 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:31.369 as well and mp performance trainers He talks 00:31:31.369 --> 00:31:34.190 about the speed of certainty and speed of certainty. 00:31:34.490 --> 00:31:36.670 I mean, I use the analogy of like, if we're going 00:31:36.670 --> 00:31:39.250 to run a race and somebody turns the lights out 00:31:39.250 --> 00:31:40.470 and you can't see where you're going, that's 00:31:40.470 --> 00:31:42.529 the fastest way to like stop people. Even if 00:31:42.529 --> 00:31:44.289 there were no obstacles, you just start to imagine 00:31:44.289 --> 00:31:47.529 them. And if you turn the lights on and people 00:31:47.529 --> 00:31:49.170 can see where they're going, people can run at 00:31:49.170 --> 00:31:53.430 their full capacity. So the clarity process goes 00:31:53.430 --> 00:31:57.089 hand in hand with speed of certainty. And I do 00:31:57.089 --> 00:31:59.309 agree. It's so important to be able to focus 00:31:59.309 --> 00:32:02.970 on that next step, right? The little milestones 00:32:02.970 --> 00:32:05.910 along the way. But I do think that we've got 00:32:05.910 --> 00:32:09.970 to have the guide or the existing knowledge of 00:32:09.970 --> 00:32:13.730 knowing where the end goal is as well. What are 00:32:13.730 --> 00:32:15.670 your thoughts on that, Dr. Mo? No, I do agree. 00:32:15.769 --> 00:32:17.769 I have a framework called the VGA framework, 00:32:17.950 --> 00:32:22.650 which is it's vision, goals, and actions. It's 00:32:22.650 --> 00:32:25.339 really hard. Easy, though, especially as visionaries 00:32:25.339 --> 00:32:27.559 to get stuck in that, oh, I've got this pie in 00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:29.200 the sky vision. I mean, I did it for the last 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:33.660 six months. I screwed up a lot of things. I learned 00:32:33.660 --> 00:32:36.700 a lot of lessons. Let me rephrase. Because I 00:32:36.700 --> 00:32:39.640 have a vision for what I want to build. I have 00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:41.880 a mission. My mission in life is to create safe 00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:45.319 spaces for people to be and grow. Well, as Dan 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:47.500 does say, Dan Martell will say sequencing equals 00:32:47.500 --> 00:32:50.079 success. Not common to him, but it's where I 00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:53.230 hear it the most. And I found out that I was 00:32:53.230 --> 00:32:57.130 doing it out of order. I need to create that 00:32:57.130 --> 00:33:01.650 in a space where I do it effortlessly now. And 00:33:01.650 --> 00:33:05.809 it will grow into that other space. So yes, you 00:33:05.809 --> 00:33:09.250 absolutely have to have a big vision. Because 00:33:09.250 --> 00:33:11.210 otherwise, there's no pull. It's kind of boring. 00:33:11.369 --> 00:33:14.089 You're like, okay, fine. So like, say, for example, 00:33:14.250 --> 00:33:16.390 sometimes I'll tell people, just make enough 00:33:16.390 --> 00:33:19.069 money on the side to replace one shift, you know. 00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.400 So for that $2 ,000, make that $2 ,000 so you 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.799 can drop a shift. I can guarantee they're not 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:27.299 going to drop the shift. I didn't. I stayed way 00:33:27.299 --> 00:33:29.339 too long at the party. Like I said, I was making 00:33:29.339 --> 00:33:32.019 two thirds of my income before I even asked to 00:33:32.019 --> 00:33:35.700 drop a shift. Because as my husband says, my 00:33:35.700 --> 00:33:41.299 backup plans have backup plans. So there's a 00:33:41.299 --> 00:33:44.299 balance between creating security and just going 00:33:44.299 --> 00:33:48.099 and screwing up. Absolutely. And in a market 00:33:48.099 --> 00:33:51.390 that's full of Hustle and grind culture, right? 00:33:51.490 --> 00:33:54.309 How do we stop the grind and how do we start 00:33:54.309 --> 00:33:56.150 building systems that work? That's one of the 00:33:56.150 --> 00:33:58.210 theories and concepts is to start building the 00:33:58.210 --> 00:34:02.549 systems that work, but how do we do that? Honestly, 00:34:02.650 --> 00:34:05.309 the first thing I have clients do is look at 00:34:05.309 --> 00:34:10.550 their calendar because, and it gets away from 00:34:10.550 --> 00:34:13.809 me. I do a calendar audit every three to four 00:34:13.809 --> 00:34:16.590 weeks. Why? Because that's about when I hit the 00:34:16.590 --> 00:34:18.789 pain point. That's how fast I'm moving. That 00:34:18.789 --> 00:34:21.769 is, it's just, that's when I hit the pain point 00:34:21.769 --> 00:34:24.250 of why am I so, I have this level of anxiety. 00:34:24.469 --> 00:34:26.769 It's like, I can feel it. It's like water and 00:34:26.769 --> 00:34:28.590 it's, it's okay. I'm about to be underwater. 00:34:29.909 --> 00:34:32.550 What am I doing? And I'll look and I'll say, 00:34:32.610 --> 00:34:34.550 all right, you're packing way too much in. Could 00:34:34.550 --> 00:34:38.590 you please put lunch in your day? Silly things. 00:34:38.630 --> 00:34:40.869 It's, it's, it's, but it's not, they're critical. 00:34:41.909 --> 00:34:46.269 They are critical. times in your day it's like 00:34:46.269 --> 00:34:48.150 when i ask my husband how long we have a standing 00:34:48.150 --> 00:34:49.670 joke how long is it going to take to get there 00:34:49.670 --> 00:34:51.789 it's like 20 minutes could be a two -hour trip 00:34:51.789 --> 00:34:54.349 you know 20 minutes in the calendar because we 00:34:54.349 --> 00:34:55.869 always joke we always think things are going 00:34:55.869 --> 00:35:00.110 to take so much less time than they do yep yep 00:35:00.110 --> 00:35:05.510 absolutely so i'll play um upgrade advocate on 00:35:05.510 --> 00:35:10.610 this one um and so ams how many team members 00:35:10.610 --> 00:35:15.559 do you have right now four It got smaller. It's 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:18.519 all good. Well, hey, ebbs and flows, refinements 00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:22.039 as well. There's lots of opportunities, but no 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.260 matter how much you look at your own calendar, 00:35:24.420 --> 00:35:27.739 if you're not empowering other people's calendars, 00:35:27.820 --> 00:35:30.239 entrepreneurship is also one of those things 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:35.380 that, you know, if, look, I could build a system 00:35:35.380 --> 00:35:38.460 using perplexity computer right now, AI, or I 00:35:38.460 --> 00:35:42.219 could build an agent chat bot. Not saying it 00:35:42.219 --> 00:35:44.900 would be the worst use of my time, but what's 00:35:44.900 --> 00:35:47.460 a far better use of my time right now is empowering 00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:51.139 Cindy Bernamelle on my team to go play with perplexity 00:35:51.139 --> 00:35:54.179 computer. And when I say play, this is an individual 00:35:54.179 --> 00:35:56.880 who is well -trained on AI, who understands the 00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.480 depths of AI, who has access to my strategic 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.860 knowledge when she needs it. And I can always 00:36:01.860 --> 00:36:04.579 refine and audit what she does. But when I get 00:36:04.579 --> 00:36:07.480 to put things on her calendar or ask her what 00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.000 she likes to put on her calendar. That allows 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:12.960 me to create systems without me having to be 00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:14.460 the one who creates the systems. And we'll go 00:36:14.460 --> 00:36:16.300 back to Dan Martell's rule on this as well, the 00:36:16.300 --> 00:36:19.000 one, three, one. It's one of my favorites is 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:21.900 what's the problem? Ask the team member, train 00:36:21.900 --> 00:36:24.199 the team member to go find three solutions and 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:26.019 bring me back the one that they think is best 00:36:26.019 --> 00:36:28.940 and they can self -perpetuate and build amazing 00:36:28.940 --> 00:36:32.579 systems. Let's double down on that. And by the 00:36:32.579 --> 00:36:34.920 way, my friends, I'll reveal a truth. We've got 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.079 a bias, Dr. Mo and I. Dr. Mo's not working with 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.619 us. And so we've come in to start helping her 00:36:39.619 --> 00:36:42.619 brand as well in certain ways. And so building 00:36:42.619 --> 00:36:45.280 out the systems for that too, we've keyed in 00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:48.179 on systems that may or may not have been on her 00:36:48.179 --> 00:36:51.099 focus and on what she's up to. But whatever we 00:36:51.099 --> 00:36:53.739 create in relation to those systems frees her 00:36:53.739 --> 00:36:55.880 up, probably from a challenge or an opportunity 00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:58.480 that she's not even aware of. And sometimes we 00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.679 might hit on things that like she is aware of. 00:37:00.699 --> 00:37:02.019 She's like, oh, crap, I've been meaning to get 00:37:02.019 --> 00:37:04.000 to that for a while. And now she doesn't have 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.119 to. So teams are a huge factor when it comes 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.980 to systems. Mo, back to you. So funny that we're 00:37:09.980 --> 00:37:13.179 we we are actually replacing one team member 00:37:13.179 --> 00:37:19.739 with four. Wow. Because finally, finally, I have 00:37:19.739 --> 00:37:22.260 been coaching in a professional sense in this 00:37:22.260 --> 00:37:24.960 way. like truly dedicated coaching professionals, 00:37:25.179 --> 00:37:26.960 coaching, helping entrepreneurs. And when I say 00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.400 coaching clients as well, if you work for me, 00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.239 you become a high level client. That is one of 00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:34.079 the benefits. We have weekly coaching calls that 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.059 you are involved in because again, empowering 00:37:36.059 --> 00:37:39.539 your people to grow, push, let's go because you 00:37:39.539 --> 00:37:40.940 know, I don't want to be out here by myself. 00:37:41.900 --> 00:37:46.780 And so we're, we're replacing one with four because 00:37:46.780 --> 00:37:50.000 finally it took me this long. And I won't even 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.239 say five years. I won't belittle myself from 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.960 that point. But two years since I knew how to 00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:58.840 do this, never hire one person alone. Think about 00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.139 in a traditional medical environment or company 00:38:01.139 --> 00:38:03.860 environment. You have a job opening. Somebody 00:38:03.860 --> 00:38:05.940 leaves the job. The job sits open. You hire, 00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.579 blah, blah, blah. Well, now we're actually bringing 00:38:08.579 --> 00:38:11.900 in four people to do the same job. We're splitting 00:38:11.900 --> 00:38:14.179 it up because I want that flexibility for my 00:38:14.179 --> 00:38:15.800 people. If somebody needs to take a week off. 00:38:16.380 --> 00:38:19.110 Exactly. Peace out. Have a good day. You know, 00:38:19.130 --> 00:38:21.949 we'll cover more. You're describing with the 00:38:21.949 --> 00:38:24.409 one employee what the e -myth warns people about 00:38:24.409 --> 00:38:27.250 and how that person, they burn out or they get 00:38:27.250 --> 00:38:30.469 hit by a bus or they get recruited by a competitor. 00:38:31.010 --> 00:38:33.429 There's so many things. And like you said, or 00:38:33.429 --> 00:38:35.809 they stay and they don't have a work -life balance. 00:38:35.869 --> 00:38:38.010 It's hurting their families. We as founders, 00:38:38.090 --> 00:38:42.719 we're contributing to that. Yep. I'm all for 00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:44.780 what you're talking about. I love it. And it 00:38:44.780 --> 00:38:47.739 honors the rules of wealth, not the rules of 00:38:47.739 --> 00:38:51.599 common knowledge. Really, really wealthy people 00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:53.960 understand the value of the compound effect. 00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:56.980 And the sooner we learn to appreciate the compound 00:38:56.980 --> 00:38:59.019 effect, the better. I think the best CEO on the 00:38:59.019 --> 00:39:02.539 planet right now emulating it, not from his, 00:39:02.619 --> 00:39:03.940 I don't know anything about him personally, to 00:39:03.940 --> 00:39:06.880 be honest, but what he said recently, the CEO 00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.909 of NVIDIA, Jensen Huang. He said that they're 00:39:10.909 --> 00:39:14.530 going to be doubling their employment. And as 00:39:14.530 --> 00:39:16.750 they double their employment, and so everybody's 00:39:16.750 --> 00:39:18.969 talking about laying people off with AI. And 00:39:18.969 --> 00:39:21.909 he's like the creator of the AI checks and what's 00:39:21.909 --> 00:39:24.150 going on. And so he said that they're going to 00:39:24.150 --> 00:39:26.329 build their system out over the next 10 years 00:39:26.329 --> 00:39:29.329 or so, over the next decade, from 42 ,000 employees 00:39:29.329 --> 00:39:34.949 to 75 ,000 employees who work alongside 7 .5 00:39:34.949 --> 00:39:40.119 million AI agents. This guy understands the compound 00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:45.340 effect. Many hands make light work. And so we've 00:39:45.340 --> 00:39:47.579 got to learn how to get out of our, our scarcity 00:39:47.579 --> 00:39:49.659 mindsets, my friends as visionaries and think 00:39:49.659 --> 00:39:51.860 that we have to do everything right to put everything 00:39:51.860 --> 00:39:53.980 on one person. I love that you brought in four 00:39:53.980 --> 00:39:56.340 people for the one thing, because if they're 00:39:56.340 --> 00:40:00.000 all able to focus on those different angles and 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.280 you're able to lean into productivity and profitability, 00:40:02.380 --> 00:40:04.719 then technically every single one of those individuals 00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.789 should be contributing. to even greater prosperity 00:40:07.789 --> 00:40:12.670 of revenue growth and profit. But of course, 00:40:12.670 --> 00:40:15.429 the nuance is how do we lean into profitability 00:40:15.429 --> 00:40:17.449 and productivity? And we can't answer that in 00:40:17.449 --> 00:40:19.429 the last 10 minutes of the show, but those are 00:40:19.429 --> 00:40:21.289 the exact types of elements we need to be thinking 00:40:21.289 --> 00:40:25.050 about as visionaries. So we talked about stop 00:40:25.050 --> 00:40:27.469 grinding and building the systems at work. And 00:40:27.469 --> 00:40:32.039 the first step out... without starting over was 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.260 one of the other comments that I saw in this 00:40:34.260 --> 00:40:39.019 write -up that we had. So stepping out and maybe 00:40:39.019 --> 00:40:40.880 getting it without starting over, what does that 00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:42.739 mean to you? And how does that relate to systems 00:40:42.739 --> 00:40:46.699 and teams? Well, I think you're never starting 00:40:46.699 --> 00:40:50.059 over and that's a fallacy because you have all 00:40:50.059 --> 00:40:51.900 of your lived experience. You have all of your 00:40:51.900 --> 00:40:53.840 interests. You have all of your education, including 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:56.699 every class you sat through, everything contributed 00:40:56.699 --> 00:41:01.420 something. We're not starting over. you're, it's 00:41:01.420 --> 00:41:04.500 just every, it's life. It's, it's, there's no 00:41:04.500 --> 00:41:07.599 road. It's just life. You know, it's like playing 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:09.840 a video game and I'm not a fan of open world 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:15.440 video games. I want, can I have the next step? 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:17.119 I mean, I love the uncharted games, you know, 00:41:17.139 --> 00:41:19.639 I'm like, where's that white ledge, white ledge, 00:41:19.699 --> 00:41:24.719 you know, because I like direction, which is, 00:41:24.739 --> 00:41:26.980 that's why I have a coach, right? That's why 00:41:26.980 --> 00:41:29.579 I have people like you in my life who I say, 00:41:30.170 --> 00:41:33.110 like i don't know how to build me beyond where 00:41:33.110 --> 00:41:37.610 i am how do i know because i'd be there that's 00:41:37.610 --> 00:41:42.070 right you are where you are redundant um and 00:41:42.070 --> 00:41:44.510 so those are those are also important realities 00:41:44.510 --> 00:41:50.090 so dr mo tell us in summary um and really we 00:41:50.090 --> 00:41:51.849 didn't talk about this yet so it's also just 00:41:51.849 --> 00:41:55.070 it's also just projecting it what is your vision 00:41:55.070 --> 00:42:00.940 moving forward You want goals or the real, well, 00:42:01.099 --> 00:42:03.639 the vision that I mean, my, my vision when I'm 00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:10.739 85 years old is still be coaching. It will be 00:42:10.739 --> 00:42:13.039 walking to the sunset, walking to the beach for 00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:17.059 sunset every day. You know, ideally with my husband 00:42:17.059 --> 00:42:20.920 hand in hand and we, we walk to the beach for 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:26.000 sunset. I talk about my books. I send the elevator 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:29.570 back down the third book in my series. will be 00:42:29.570 --> 00:42:33.650 freedom to shine. The second one is freedom to 00:42:33.650 --> 00:42:35.809 spend. How are you going to spend these precious 00:42:35.809 --> 00:42:38.809 days you've been given, this money, this time 00:42:38.809 --> 00:42:41.530 you've created? And then the freedom to shine 00:42:41.530 --> 00:42:45.929 is standing in your space and helping other people 00:42:45.929 --> 00:42:51.050 just by being a lighthouse. That's awesome. I 00:42:51.050 --> 00:42:54.889 love that. And I see you doing that. I see you 00:42:54.889 --> 00:42:58.389 doing that. You're already. in that process. 00:42:58.670 --> 00:43:01.670 And that's what's so exciting to me is you live 00:43:01.670 --> 00:43:03.809 it, you breathe it, you get to bring that to 00:43:03.809 --> 00:43:07.409 others too. How we spend our time. My friends, 00:43:07.449 --> 00:43:09.690 I think all of us know that time is more valuable 00:43:09.690 --> 00:43:14.150 than money. We can't get it back. And money often 00:43:14.150 --> 00:43:17.349 liberates our ability to use our time even better. 00:43:17.469 --> 00:43:21.670 And so to go full circle on this aspect of credentials 00:43:21.670 --> 00:43:23.750 being the cage, whether it's the amount of money 00:43:23.750 --> 00:43:26.010 that we've made that has created that cage for 00:43:26.010 --> 00:43:30.010 ourselves. or whether it's the educational pieces 00:43:30.010 --> 00:43:33.210 that have also put us in a type of cage, or it's 00:43:33.210 --> 00:43:34.829 our work environments that have done so. There 00:43:34.829 --> 00:43:37.210 are lots of cages that we can consistently learn 00:43:37.210 --> 00:43:39.989 how to become free from. Those of us from North 00:43:39.989 --> 00:43:42.349 America, especially the United States, we are 00:43:42.349 --> 00:43:46.889 a people built on the concept of freedom. And 00:43:46.889 --> 00:43:49.550 yet I see so many of us not tapping into it and 00:43:49.550 --> 00:43:51.730 running from the responsibility that comes along 00:43:51.730 --> 00:43:54.409 with it or missing out. We can turn to AI and 00:43:54.409 --> 00:43:58.480 ask it to give ourselves a freedom. Exam. Ask 00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.119 it. Give yourself an assessment. How am I maximizing 00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:03.659 my freedom or not? And see what it unlocks for 00:44:03.659 --> 00:44:07.639 yourself. And I'm going to go right back to this 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:09.460 process you talked about earlier. You talked 00:44:09.460 --> 00:44:17.599 about being overeducated in a world where it's 00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:21.659 called the information age that we're in. I think 00:44:21.659 --> 00:44:23.659 that we're moving into a new age, what I'll call 00:44:23.659 --> 00:44:28.380 the curation age. Um, but still knowledge can, 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.039 can be a hamper and it can also be something 00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:33.119 that's valuable. I'd love for you to just give 00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:35.380 us as visionaries, some, some final counsel. 00:44:35.500 --> 00:44:39.239 Well, what, how do we, how do we walk that sacred 00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:43.559 line or ledge of continuing to educate ourselves, 00:44:43.780 --> 00:44:46.699 but also protecting ourselves from getting into 00:44:46.699 --> 00:44:50.920 that overeducated situation where, um, we box 00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:56.760 ourselves in. It's scary. It's really scary. 00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.000 Those of us, especially with traditional educations, 00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:01.980 somebody has set the path for us. We walk the 00:45:01.980 --> 00:45:05.400 path, we check the boxes off, we get the job, 00:45:05.539 --> 00:45:08.940 we retire, and then we die. It sounds like my 00:45:08.940 --> 00:45:12.559 own version of personal health. Thank you. I'm 00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:16.480 like, that's not going to work for me. And it's 00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.500 scary, though, stepping off the path. Those people 00:45:20.500 --> 00:45:24.880 on the path, your mentors, your family. I mean, 00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:26.420 I've gone through some stuff with my family going, 00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:29.139 what are you doing? And I'm talking the ones 00:45:29.139 --> 00:45:31.719 that live in my house. You know, what are you 00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:33.659 doing? I can't believe you're going to do this. 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.820 Why did you lose this good job? Which I, you 00:45:36.820 --> 00:45:39.619 know, I get it. I didn't, I, I get five job offers 00:45:39.619 --> 00:45:45.159 every day. The cage is there, but the door is 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:48.619 open. It just takes courage to walk through. 00:45:49.099 --> 00:45:52.000 And I'll be honest. I needed the courage of a 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:56.389 coach who could. figuratively hold my hand and 00:45:56.389 --> 00:46:02.829 say, I will help you walk through. That is awesome. 00:46:03.650 --> 00:46:06.309 So we'll always have access, by the way, to the 00:46:06.309 --> 00:46:08.809 safety of that cage. I shouldn't say always. 00:46:08.869 --> 00:46:10.829 In most cases, as long as you don't do something 00:46:10.829 --> 00:46:14.269 malpractice or illegal, then you're going to 00:46:14.269 --> 00:46:16.210 have that option to go back. Stay a good person. 00:46:16.489 --> 00:46:18.889 At the end of the day, visionaries, I dropped 00:46:18.889 --> 00:46:22.110 two more links in the comments based on some 00:46:22.110 --> 00:46:25.489 of what what dr mo just shared earlier we were 00:46:25.489 --> 00:46:27.690 talking about coaches so one of these links is 00:46:27.690 --> 00:46:30.090 for an article we wrote called why most business 00:46:30.090 --> 00:46:32.269 coaches are underqualified and of course then 00:46:32.269 --> 00:46:33.769 what to do with them and how to move your own 00:46:33.769 --> 00:46:36.969 life forward and find the right coaches the other 00:46:36.969 --> 00:46:40.929 one though is a really abstract study on somebody 00:46:40.929 --> 00:46:43.849 named stanley milgram and stanley milgram came 00:46:43.849 --> 00:46:45.809 up with this theory and this idea that we as 00:46:45.809 --> 00:46:47.909 a society most of us are stuck in what's called 00:46:47.909 --> 00:46:51.030 an agentic state It's the exact thing that Dr. 00:46:51.070 --> 00:46:52.909 Mo described, the people who get on this career 00:46:52.909 --> 00:46:55.510 path or this education path and then feel stuck 00:46:55.510 --> 00:46:57.909 and like they can't get off of it. One of the 00:46:57.909 --> 00:47:00.769 most important things that you can do if you 00:47:00.769 --> 00:47:03.269 feel like you might be there is dive into some 00:47:03.269 --> 00:47:06.269 self -awareness. And of course, like Dr. Mo said, 00:47:06.449 --> 00:47:09.150 ask somebody about coaching, especially somebody 00:47:09.150 --> 00:47:11.710 who relates to you. There aren't too many people 00:47:11.710 --> 00:47:13.309 on this plan, in my opinion, that are more relatable 00:47:13.309 --> 00:47:16.170 than Maureen Gibbons. So I do recommend leaning 00:47:16.170 --> 00:47:18.369 into her and what she's up to and how she's building 00:47:18.369 --> 00:47:20.849 things. That's also why I wanted to work with 00:47:20.849 --> 00:47:23.309 her. She said she's got five job offers per day. 00:47:24.179 --> 00:47:27.639 So do I. You guys see the thousands of people 00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:29.440 who come on the show and talk about leadership. 00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:31.579 And we love to build visions, but we can't build 00:47:31.579 --> 00:47:33.960 everybody's vision. So it's really fun to be 00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.019 able to come across people where I'm like, oh, 00:47:36.059 --> 00:47:38.460 my gosh, this person gets it. They got the essence 00:47:38.460 --> 00:47:40.639 of greatness. They're going places with this. 00:47:40.739 --> 00:47:43.059 And so, Mo, thank you for trusting us to start 00:47:43.059 --> 00:47:45.400 working together. And thank you for bringing 00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:47.699 this vision to life. I love I didn't know about 00:47:47.699 --> 00:47:49.800 the two books. I hadn't heard about this, my 00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:51.579 friends. And so now that I see the series of 00:47:51.579 --> 00:47:54.230 books, I'm like. Whoa, this vision just got that 00:47:54.230 --> 00:47:58.929 much more holistic. So visionaries, if you haven't 00:47:58.929 --> 00:48:00.730 come on the show before, in the top right corner 00:48:00.730 --> 00:48:02.469 of visionproslive .com, there's a button that 00:48:02.469 --> 00:48:04.909 says Be Our Guest. Click on that button. Come 00:48:04.909 --> 00:48:06.530 and join us. You don't have to be a world -class 00:48:06.530 --> 00:48:09.510 coach, a doctor who's got ER experience and who 00:48:09.510 --> 00:48:12.849 has a telemedicine company as well. You can be 00:48:12.849 --> 00:48:14.610 getting started in your vision. We'd still love 00:48:14.610 --> 00:48:16.590 to hear from you and see how you're helping the 00:48:16.590 --> 00:48:18.730 world. I'm going to go one more time back to 00:48:18.730 --> 00:48:22.489 Mo, though. Mo, fortune cookie style. Last piece 00:48:22.489 --> 00:48:27.309 of wisdom for visionaries. Just take the step. 00:48:28.630 --> 00:48:30.949 Just take the step, my friends. We'll see you 00:48:30.949 --> 00:48:32.510 in the next episode. Thank you for being here 00:48:32.510 --> 00:48:34.409 today. I'm really happy that you tuned in to 00:48:34.409 --> 00:48:36.869 Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing 00:48:36.869 --> 00:48:39.909 your reactions as these episodes continue to 00:48:39.909 --> 00:48:41.610 move forward. This is going to get more and more 00:48:41.610 --> 00:48:43.929 fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well. 00:48:43.949 --> 00:48:45.869 We'll invite people to participate in the show 00:48:45.869 --> 00:48:48.050 and thank you for giving us your time and attention. 00:48:48.329 --> 00:48:50.969 Have an excellent time building out your vision 00:48:50.969 --> 00:48:52.050 and becoming a Vision Pro.