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what's up and welcome into another episode of

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vision pros live my friends i'm your show host

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jackson callum founder and ceo of first class

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business and i got mike bob in the house Mike

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Cobb has a website. I hope you go check it out.

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ECIDevelopment .com. That's ECIDevelopment .com.

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And he's building these lifestyle resort experiences,

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investing in land. I'm talking Belize, Costa

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Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, Panama, and Portugal.

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That goes right in line with my vision to bridge

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the economic gap between North America, South

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America, and the rest of the world. And he's

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doing just that. So we just got to know each

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other briefly right after an episode with Mike

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Deaton. I got to introduce the two of them. We

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also got... him introduced to my friend Robert

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Gaines, who's on the process of moving down to

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Nicaragua right now, where Mike spent more than

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a decade. And just, I can't be more excited about

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the things that he's talking about. So I'm putting

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him on the spot. He didn't know I was going to

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go live right away, but I was like, man, this

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guy's got it. We got to make this happen. So

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Mike Cobb, welcome in to Vision Pros. Jackson,

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good to be with you. Like we're just chatting

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and all of a sudden, bam, the intro's rolling.

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I'm like, all right. I like that. We're hitting

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it. We got it, man. You've already built an amazing

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legacy. The vision's easy to see. And of course,

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I can tell you the type of guy who's not retiring

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tomorrow. So what is your vision moving forward,

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Mike? What are you building right now? You know,

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you know what? I like to say that we're building

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wonderful communities for people who have an

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adventurous spirit. That's really what we do.

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We work in Central America. You mentioned the

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countries a moment ago. And really, we build

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communities because I think so often, I know

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for me, in my neighborhoods, the places I've

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lived over the years, like I didn't really connect

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with the people around me, my neighbors, my colleagues

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at work, because I just always had this like,

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I want to do something a little different, you

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know, like a spirit of adventure. It's rare,

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but now we get the opportunity to, I hate to

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say collect folks, but we collect folks. We give

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them the opportunity to join a community where

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they're going to meet other people who share

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this spirit of adventure and just really enjoy.

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being out you know overseas in some place new

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and exciting and different it's uh it's wonderful

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yeah so you were saying you collect people and

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i was saying i want to be collected for this

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i'm like this is the perfect thing to get collected

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for so i'm cool with that and my friends i'm

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working on this uh this proposal if you will

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this process of we're going to be looking to

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build a hotel for entrepreneurs specifically

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down in Paredes, Colombia, in Cusco as well.

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This, I know this number is not fair. This is

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what we were looking at when we were going to

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build a small boutique version, but we're probably

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going to move to like between two and four million

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for what it is we're up to. And so I just, I

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want to share with all you visionaries, like

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you don't have to be in the hotel space to do

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this stuff. By the way, Claude helped a ton with

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putting this type of proposal together. And you

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do want to work with people like Mike. That's

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one of the reasons I'm bringing this up. I'm

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not like, hey, I'm going to replace Mike in Central.

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out there but no not at all um like if this thing

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gains uh gains the traction that we want then

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i want people like mike to be involved in this

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to advise me to help me realize like man what

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am i What do we get into? What types of challenges

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might exist there? But at the end of the day,

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my friends, I want to create a place where we

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can have a permanent co -working space where

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we can, of course, have other hotel guests in

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there as well. But we also have locals who work

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with us on all things first class business who

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would love to help run this hotel and this operation.

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We want it to be a full, inclusive experience

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where entrepreneurs can come. Use it as a retreat

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experience for their company. Get involved in

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perhaps an expo process. Meet the virtual assistants

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who work with them and see how we train and recruit

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in person as well. Like this thing could be so

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cool. And I have a feeling, Mike, too, because

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of the local connections I have. We also have

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moms, for instance, in our group who when they

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built their house, the HOA or rather the builders

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said they would take care of certain things like

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pave the streets and put the lampposts and all

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that. And they didn't. Right. And so mom went

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and she didn't have any money. So she couldn't

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hire an attorney. She went and she learned what

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she needed to learn to go get petitions signed.

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And then by doing that, she was able to get them

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to finish the sidewalks, get the light post put

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in, put in the playground, et cetera. And I was

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like, whoa, if we have somebody like that, we

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could take real estate from down there. That's

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next to nothing. transform the area win grants

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from the government probably uh but get some

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publicity on how we're making changes in these

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in the lives of the people as well in the lives

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of the community there's so much potential with

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what could be here but I'm out of my league when

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it comes to real estate. So what do you think

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about the idea? Well, no, I love the idea, by

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the way. And just, there was a Gallup poll in

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December, 2025. So a couple of months ago. And

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the number in 2008, there was actually, there

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was a survey done by the Zogby company. 103 ,000

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US citizens were surveyed back in 2008. That's

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a huge statistical sampling. 11 .6. So 10%, roughly,

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you know, one out of 10, 11 .6%. of those folks

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said they were seriously considering a move overseas.

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Gallup just did a poll a couple months ago in

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December. It is now over 20 % of US citizens

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are serious. Actually, the Gallup poll was different.

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Would you move to a new country right now, given

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the opportunity? 20%. So, Jackson, I mean, like,

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there's room for you, me, and like... A hundred

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more is 200 or 500 more of us, right? Like this

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is a monster service opportunity. And I look

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at it as a service opportunity. I love that.

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What you just described is a service opportunity.

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Bring people down and get entrepreneurs together,

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create that brain trust, that we work space.

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You know, I mean, so like when you put people

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together, creative. We put the excursions as

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part of it. So that's already planned out. We

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put the causes so that people can get involved

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in service and local community. Absolutely. it

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would be it would be so easy for minds like you

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and i to be able to pull that together for people

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and then allow people to have that experience

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and then catch fire and say whoa i want to do

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this too all right i want to get involved and

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so i'll say pareda too what's one of the the

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fun thing about pareda is nobody can pronounce

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it from america um and so because they can't

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pronounce it they don't really know about it

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but so many people have already traveled to the

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seven world wonders and instagram and the online

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world They want to go places that people haven't

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been. You don't want to share the same pictures

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everybody else has shared. And so I think that's

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one of the reasons why it's state of hidden gem.

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This place, Mike, looks like the Grand Canyon,

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but green. It is so crazy. I have not been. Oh,

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it's so much. It's amazing. And they just, their

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tourism lasts. It's a city of 600 ,000. Tourism

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is up 25%. There you go. Last year. And they

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just put another 18 million into the airport.

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Rather, they just announced a project for that.

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So that's one area out of many. But what Mike's

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talking about, the opportunity to go and live

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a little bit further, have experiences, be part

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of communities, give back and enjoy your life.

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Like all of that, you can have your cake and

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eat it too, can't you? Absolutely. And one of

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the things that we talk about a lot is this paradox,

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right? I think in the US, Canada, if we think

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about having a higher quality of life, we realize

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that we probably have to spend more money. Just

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one easy example, right? If you want to eat healthier,

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you get in your car and you drive down to Whole

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Paycheck. That's what I call Whole Foods, Whole

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Paycheck, right? And if you want to fill up your

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cart full of organic fruits, vegetables, free

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range, hormone free, I mean, you're going to

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spend your whole paycheck, right? If you move

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like you are to Ecuador or Colombia, or I lived

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in Nicaragua for 14 years, right? The organic

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free range, hormone free stuff is so inexpensive.

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And so all of a sudden you're - And it's all

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you can find. Unless you go to the Walmart, right?

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And then you're going to buy all the super, super

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processed stuff at supermarkets. More expensive,

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more expensive than in the U .S., right? Yeah,

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yeah. So I think it's counterintuitive that you

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can have this higher quality of life and it costs

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far less because that's a paradox. We don't see

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it that way. My friends, my apartment right now,

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this is fully furnished. I didn't have to pay

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for anything that's in here and in the bedroom

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and in the bathroom. All of that furnished, plus

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utilities, plus water, $130 a month. Bam. Right.

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$130 a month. Right there. Yep. Right. I want

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a burger. Burger, $2. I want a burger and fries

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and a drink, $2. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right. And

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until somebody comes and experiences it, it's

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hard to imagine it. Like people aren't going

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to believe us. Jackson, people just make, ah,

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we don't believe you enough. Guys, you go to

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the pharmacy and you ask for ibuprofen and they're

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not going to give you a bottle. They're going

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to pull the packet out and they're going to say,

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how many pills do you want? And they're ready

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to cut it. And you're like, two, I guess. And

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they're like, oh, that's 10 cents. And you're

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like, oh my God. This is too funny. Oh, wait,

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we need, we, we need the, Oh, what's that? The

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saline bags. We had a friend needed to get saline

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and get antibiotics and all that right there.

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You just go right at the pharmacy, you get all

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that. It's like five bucks. You're out the door

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and you administer at home. You know, it's totally

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fine. crazy right exactly right and and this

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is and and one of the things that i love is the

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freedom as well right that you have the freedom

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to go buy the antibiotics if you think you need

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them the saline bag you don't need to pay a doctor

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but if you need to pay a doctor they would probably

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come to your apartment for thirty dollars they

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would make a house call for what 30 40 bucks

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maybe i don't know yeah probably fortunately

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i haven't needed one but if i did you're right

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like that's that's what it is i went and got

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my teeth cleaned the other day though um that

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was that was a whopping sixteen dollars there

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you go right so yeah yep so absolutely there's

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a lot there's a lot of great things about this

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and in this vision my friends i hope that you

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when you have the opportunity to do it as mike

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talked about as well not only is it is it fun

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and freeing and there's opportunities with that

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There's so many people that you can help down

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here and make such a massive difference, even

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if it's just helping somebody or passing on the

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street or getting involved in a local organization

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or doing what we do and working with us through

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the opportunities for Latinos. There's so much

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there. And so between that and also, I would

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say AI, helping the individuals understand how

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to utilize AI for their own benefits. And we've

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got the AI marketplace. And one of the big pieces

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of that is to help professionals and business

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owners solve their own challenges related to

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AI. And then also. help our counterparts in Central

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South America. Most of my team members only speak

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Spanish and they work on English projects all

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day long for our clients and deliver at a world

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-class level. And my clients often ask me a little

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bit afterwards, we used to not reveal it. Now

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we get them involved a little bit faster to it,

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but we used to not reveal it for fun. And then

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three weeks later, my clients would say, Jackson,

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how come I only ever talk to you? Like, when

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can I talk to Marie Victoria? When can I talk

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to her? So I want to meet him. I want to talk

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to him. And I go, Oh, you speak Spanish? And

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they go, no, wait, what? I'm like, they don't

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speak English. What do you mean they don't speak

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English? They've been working for me for three

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weeks doing all English projects. And I'm like,

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that's right. They're capable of doing the work.

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I was like, but they don't have to speak English

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to the work. Let's change our mindset and open

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the doors to people that have great opportunities

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who are loving, patient, persistent, consistent,

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reliable. and teach them how to do the work and

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build the processes and they can do it. So we

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can empower so many people. Mike, you know all

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about this. I know I went over a little bit.

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Can I get you to come back for 40 to 60 minute

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session with me? Absolutely. We're scheduling.

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We gotta dive in deep on a specific topic. We'll

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make that happen, Vision Pros. In case this happens

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to be the last time that I ever get to talk to

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you, Mike, and you got other busy plans, you're

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collecting more people for those wonderful, awesome

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projects you're doing in Central America, and

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you say Jackson's in South America. He's got

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to wait until he comes up a little bit more north.

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In case that happens, if this is your last chance

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to give advice to visionaries out there, what

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would your advice be? You know what? I hate to

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be so trite, but... Just do it. Just do it. It's

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so trite. But I think so many people get into

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this analysis, paralysis to analysis thing, right?

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Shoe dog. You just shoe dog us. I love it. Just

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do it. Get out there and do it, my friends. And

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we'll see you on the next episode. Thank you

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for being here today. I'm really happy that you

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tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward

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to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue

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to move forward. This is going to get more and

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more fun. We'll have more and more engagement

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as well. We'll invite people to participate in

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the show. And thank you for giving us your time

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and attention. Have an excellent time building

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out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.
