WEBVTT 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:02.560 Hey guys, I'm so excited to be here today with 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:04.160 Dr. Jacqueline Campbell, and we're going to be 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:06.879 talking about the overlooked shift in emotional 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:10.080 intelligence and what leaders need to know about 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:12.740 it. This is huge. Guys, she looks like she's 00:00:12.740 --> 00:00:15.859 in her teenage years still, but this lady has 00:00:15.859 --> 00:00:20.059 an old soul, and she's served our great country 00:00:20.059 --> 00:00:22.460 as well. We thank you for your service, Dr. Jacqueline, 00:00:22.539 --> 00:00:25.960 and I love the service you continue to do as 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:27.579 you help people with emotional intelligence. 00:00:27.620 --> 00:00:29.579 This is something that visionaries need most 00:00:29.579 --> 00:00:32.820 of all. Yeah, I would agree. I think that a lot 00:00:32.820 --> 00:00:34.960 of visionaries are highly sensitive people because 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:38.799 your vision means you're just so aware. So usually 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:41.280 our energy is spread so many different places. 00:00:41.380 --> 00:00:44.280 So it's hard to complete your vision and keep 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:47.179 it on track without losing yourself in it because 00:00:47.179 --> 00:00:51.880 it can be very heavy. Yeah, absolutely. Tell 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:54.420 us about your career. I summarized it way too 00:00:54.420 --> 00:00:57.240 fast a little bit. I also had some fun with your 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:00.200 age there. But I would love the audience to have 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.000 the type of understanding that I do. Because 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:06.540 due to our age and our social statuses, people 00:01:06.540 --> 00:01:09.000 could take my comments in a different direction. 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:11.900 And I want people to realize that, no, no, no. 00:01:12.349 --> 00:01:14.609 You have some serious depth with what you've 00:01:14.609 --> 00:01:16.890 done, what you've figured out, and how you've 00:01:16.890 --> 00:01:19.030 come to appreciate emotional intelligence and 00:01:19.030 --> 00:01:20.230 the way that you bring it to others. And you're 00:01:20.230 --> 00:01:21.969 a doctor, too. Tell us about that. What type 00:01:21.969 --> 00:01:24.310 of doctor are you? All things Dr. Jacqueline. 00:01:24.969 --> 00:01:28.670 Perfect. Well, what got me into doing this work 00:01:28.670 --> 00:01:32.170 was my childhood. I didn't really have the most 00:01:32.170 --> 00:01:35.379 stable childhood. we really weren't safe we didn't 00:01:35.379 --> 00:01:37.739 know when we would be safe because you know generational 00:01:37.739 --> 00:01:41.019 trauma is passed down to you know our grandparents 00:01:41.019 --> 00:01:43.920 and then our parents and then us and you know 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:47.439 we all do our best every generation trying to 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:49.959 make it better but at the end of the day when 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:52.260 i was 17 i was like i got to be done with this 00:01:52.260 --> 00:01:54.780 i need a different life something that's better 00:01:54.780 --> 00:01:57.040 but i didn't know what that would be so i went 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:01.280 to the marine corps and i spent six years overseas 00:02:02.299 --> 00:02:05.760 and i worked in security which it was an amazing 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:11.039 experience and i got a lot of exposure culturally 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:17.819 and it was very educational for me but also i 00:02:17.819 --> 00:02:22.620 wasn't talking and so i would be very rough and 00:02:22.620 --> 00:02:25.699 aggressive and sometimes even violent but as 00:02:25.699 --> 00:02:29.759 a woman i really wanted to be you know, nurturing, 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:32.400 especially when I started having children. So 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:34.580 after I got out of the military and I wasn't 00:02:34.580 --> 00:02:37.319 working in security anymore, I was thinking, 00:02:37.379 --> 00:02:39.159 well, what do I want to do for myself? What do 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:42.240 I want to study? When I was actually a shoo -in 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:46.360 to the FBI, I'm sorry, the DEA, when I started 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:49.340 realizing, no, I need, I need help. Right. So 00:02:49.340 --> 00:02:52.159 I started taking psychology courses and I ended 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:55.939 up extending because I was going into criminology. 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:59.240 It was very interesting why we are the way we 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:01.740 are, especially when we have all this dysfunction. 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:05.199 You know, like what makes bad people bad? Like, 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:07.120 that's really what I wanted to understand, because 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.560 I also had a lot of those tendencies to be so 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:13.300 rough. So I really wanted to understand. Through 00:03:13.300 --> 00:03:15.020 understanding that, I realized I just needed 00:03:15.020 --> 00:03:19.960 therapy. I actually extended after my master's 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:22.960 and I got, you know, the degree to be able to 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:25.780 be a licensed therapist, specialized in neuroscience, 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:28.960 working with trauma survivors, a lot of military 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:32.280 people who are serving other people, teachers, 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:36.560 nurses. And towards the end of that, because 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:39.039 I was also a business owner. So, you know, business 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:41.939 owners gravitate to other people who get them. 00:03:42.060 --> 00:03:44.360 They wanted to be working with me, even though 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:46.460 they were in therapy. And they were actually 00:03:46.460 --> 00:03:48.240 the ones that told me that this was needed in 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:51.900 this space with leaders, with executives, that 00:03:51.900 --> 00:03:54.520 something like working on their deep emotions 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:59.039 and learning to ground themselves is not incorporated 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.759 in leadership development. So that was the whole 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:03.939 reason why I made this shift, which is actually 00:04:03.939 --> 00:04:06.699 very scary because I had no money. It was the 00:04:06.699 --> 00:04:09.340 tail end of a failed business attempt. And I'm 00:04:09.340 --> 00:04:12.039 like, I'm really not good at business. So I guess 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:14.819 I can try again. They're saying that it's needed. 00:04:15.530 --> 00:04:18.670 So I jumped ship. I left the six figure therapy 00:04:18.670 --> 00:04:22.069 practice after I had bounced back from that business 00:04:22.069 --> 00:04:25.750 attempt to be able to do this. So now fast forward 00:04:25.750 --> 00:04:27.610 two years later, we're starting to launch the 00:04:27.610 --> 00:04:32.410 trainings. Whoa. There is so much about what 00:04:32.410 --> 00:04:34.230 you talked about that I want to ask questions 00:04:34.230 --> 00:04:35.889 about my brain. I don't know if it's going to 00:04:35.889 --> 00:04:38.990 keep up, but there's so much value in that path 00:04:38.990 --> 00:04:41.370 for visionaries. I don't think you're the only 00:04:41.370 --> 00:04:44.209 visionary who's had more than one attempt at 00:04:44.209 --> 00:04:46.910 trying to figure out which direction to go. I 00:04:46.910 --> 00:04:50.930 think 99 .9 % of us have, you know, there's Tiger 00:04:50.930 --> 00:04:53.050 Woods. I think he knew where he was going as 00:04:53.050 --> 00:04:56.170 a little kid. You know, he was always golfing. 00:04:57.050 --> 00:04:58.829 Let's dive into one of these big subjects real 00:04:58.829 --> 00:05:00.750 quick. I'm going to pull us back full circle 00:05:00.750 --> 00:05:04.230 after the break point, but I want to make sure 00:05:04.230 --> 00:05:07.910 that we tie some of this vast depth that you 00:05:07.910 --> 00:05:10.529 have to some of the tangible things that companies 00:05:10.529 --> 00:05:13.269 and businesses and visionaries can be doing in 00:05:13.269 --> 00:05:16.629 the here and now. So the shift in emotional intelligence, 00:05:16.949 --> 00:05:21.709 one of the shifts that I recognize, and I believe 00:05:21.709 --> 00:05:26.149 I would say pulled it from our combined AI, and 00:05:26.149 --> 00:05:28.649 so it might be your concept, was about the idea 00:05:28.649 --> 00:05:32.230 of emotional safety and why that's important 00:05:32.230 --> 00:05:35.509 with companies and with people. And more importantly, 00:05:35.550 --> 00:05:37.689 how do we facilitate that? Because it's like, 00:05:37.730 --> 00:05:40.329 obviously, we all want to be safe. How do we 00:05:40.329 --> 00:05:42.389 move that towards a tangible conversation? But 00:05:42.389 --> 00:05:44.709 is there another shift that you also want to 00:05:44.709 --> 00:05:47.449 add to that? Well, that's actually a really good 00:05:47.449 --> 00:05:49.069 point because people don't think, well, what 00:05:49.069 --> 00:05:50.850 do you mean emotional safety? We don't know how 00:05:50.850 --> 00:05:54.560 to measure it. or how to make sure that you are 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:56.279 emotionally safe. Because a lot of time we assume 00:05:56.279 --> 00:06:00.560 we are when we're probably not. When it comes 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:03.319 to the way our nervous system is, it projects 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:07.079 whatever's inside. So if you are hard on yourself, 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:09.920 you are naturally going to be hard on the people 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:11.600 around you. If you are critical to yourself, 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:13.699 you're going to be critical to them. If you put 00:06:13.699 --> 00:06:15.680 pressure on yourself, you're going to put pressure 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:18.819 on them. So you have these individuals who are 00:06:18.819 --> 00:06:22.399 promoted into leadership space or roles. And 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:25.699 in these spaces, they're causing a lot of the 00:06:25.699 --> 00:06:28.879 problems that they don't like. Pause that thought. 00:06:28.980 --> 00:06:31.000 I want you to keep going. But I want to translate 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:32.980 that. I have a very special reason for doing 00:06:32.980 --> 00:06:44.949 this, my friends. We got a lot of Spanish speakers 00:06:44.949 --> 00:06:47.069 that come in and listen to this. And so I want 00:06:47.069 --> 00:06:50.009 to get I wanted to hit that home because the 00:06:50.009 --> 00:06:54.240 the tendency. for most of the people that i know 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:56.240 in central south america they're very hard on 00:06:56.240 --> 00:07:00.019 themselves um and so it does kind of end up projecting 00:07:00.019 --> 00:07:03.040 on others as well and all of us need help with 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:05.600 regulating that so continue please you're well 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:07.540 you're absolutely right and and i appreciate 00:07:07.540 --> 00:07:11.579 you making that translation because you see it 00:07:11.579 --> 00:07:14.779 in all different cultures in different ways but 00:07:14.779 --> 00:07:20.040 i do find that the changing the the transforming 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:22.620 the transformation to giving yourself a little 00:07:22.620 --> 00:07:25.959 bit more grace is harder for minorities whether 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:29.439 it be because those those individuals are harder 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:31.620 on themselves because society's harder on them 00:07:31.620 --> 00:07:34.959 so then you have a double negative so to tell 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:38.180 them if they which is so hard for them to understand 00:07:38.180 --> 00:07:41.699 if you are easier on yourself if you give yourself 00:07:41.699 --> 00:07:45.379 some grace you'll actually be able to do more 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:48.860 It just doesn't register. This is a tough reality 00:07:48.860 --> 00:07:51.740 for entrepreneurs. So anybody who's an entrepreneur 00:07:51.740 --> 00:07:55.019 and high achiever, right? You're alpha, you're 00:07:55.019 --> 00:07:58.860 driven, you got to make things happen. Tenacity 00:07:58.860 --> 00:08:01.120 is a big part of winning the game, et cetera. 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:05.120 So how do we balance that as people who want 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:09.939 to be driven, disciplined, diligent? How do we 00:08:09.939 --> 00:08:13.480 know if we're crossing the lines of obsessive? 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:17.459 over -functioning, and ultimately causing problems 00:08:17.459 --> 00:08:20.660 for ourselves and others by diving in too deep? 00:08:21.420 --> 00:08:25.860 Well, if you're not very aware, somebody's probably 00:08:25.860 --> 00:08:27.860 going to be telling you instead of you realizing 00:08:27.860 --> 00:08:30.540 it, right? So just listen. At least try to take 00:08:30.540 --> 00:08:33.460 the feedback. But then if you are more aware, 00:08:33.620 --> 00:08:36.019 and I feel like visionaries, because they are 00:08:36.019 --> 00:08:38.860 more sensitive, they are self -aware, even though 00:08:38.860 --> 00:08:40.320 it's hard to get out. It's like we're fighting 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.509 ourselves. Even though we know we're fighting 00:08:42.509 --> 00:08:46.230 ourselves, you know, in that space, if it is 00:08:46.230 --> 00:08:49.669 causing you stress, something is out of alignment 00:08:49.669 --> 00:08:51.590 or you're putting too much pressure on yourself. 00:08:52.110 --> 00:08:54.450 Right. I'm sure there's other factors, but those 00:08:54.450 --> 00:08:57.509 are two main ones where if you can just say, 00:08:57.570 --> 00:09:00.129 OK, now that the stress is building, I just need 00:09:00.129 --> 00:09:05.090 a break. For example, I think it was Monday. 00:09:05.250 --> 00:09:09.029 I had a few things on my schedule that I just 00:09:09.029 --> 00:09:12.750 couldn't keep up. And so I can actually accomplish 00:09:12.750 --> 00:09:16.549 a whole lot more if I'm effective, if my brain 00:09:16.549 --> 00:09:19.769 is working. And I know this. So because I was 00:09:19.769 --> 00:09:21.470 starting to get overwhelmed, I took something 00:09:21.470 --> 00:09:23.470 off my schedule and I put it for the next day. 00:09:24.470 --> 00:09:27.250 And then it happened the next day. That day it 00:09:27.250 --> 00:09:29.110 calmed everything down because I'm like, okay, 00:09:29.149 --> 00:09:31.269 I took the pressure off and I'll get it done 00:09:31.269 --> 00:09:33.370 the next day. I was having tech issues, which 00:09:33.370 --> 00:09:36.389 is interesting, right? And instead of pressuring 00:09:36.389 --> 00:09:38.490 myself to just get everything done, you can't 00:09:38.490 --> 00:09:41.620 do anything about that. You can just do what 00:09:41.620 --> 00:09:44.960 you can do. So the next day, the same thing happened. 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:46.700 And I'm like, okay, well, I got the thing done 00:09:46.700 --> 00:09:49.299 that I was supposed to yesterday and I got a 00:09:49.299 --> 00:09:51.159 couple other things done. So now something else 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:54.019 has to be pushed off. And all I'm doing is strategically 00:09:54.019 --> 00:09:59.539 prioritizing so that I can still stay sane. Everything's 00:09:59.539 --> 00:10:01.840 still getting done. And that's when I have to 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:04.200 remind myself there's a specific phrase that 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:07.299 helps me bounce back because I'm like, everything 00:10:07.299 --> 00:10:10.179 will get done. I may not know how. Everything 00:10:10.179 --> 00:10:13.059 will get done, but I am more effective if I'm 00:10:13.059 --> 00:10:17.289 not stressed. So I have to take care of me. I 00:10:17.289 --> 00:10:20.049 think it's so important, visionaries. We often 00:10:20.049 --> 00:10:22.649 focus on the tactical of what we need to do that 00:10:22.649 --> 00:10:24.970 seems so related to the mission, but oftentimes 00:10:24.970 --> 00:10:27.769 it's what's not related to the mission that is 00:10:27.769 --> 00:10:30.629 required. And so I left my apartment the other 00:10:30.629 --> 00:10:32.490 day and I was running and I was running late 00:10:32.490 --> 00:10:36.090 and I had like a Gatorade type electrolyte drink 00:10:36.090 --> 00:10:38.809 with me and I start drinking it as I'm running 00:10:38.809 --> 00:10:40.710 and I began to think of marathon. I was like, 00:10:40.750 --> 00:10:41.870 man, this is hard. I was like, I wonder how they 00:10:41.870 --> 00:10:47.519 train to do this. That you know it. And what 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:50.740 I realize, I'm correlating that with what you're 00:10:50.740 --> 00:10:53.899 talking about, because we would think that, okay, 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:55.940 to win the marathon, you got to run your 26 miles. 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:59.019 Like you got to get that done. But if you didn't 00:10:59.019 --> 00:11:01.740 drink the water along the way, then you wouldn't 00:11:01.740 --> 00:11:04.080 be able to do it. You know, you wouldn't probably 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:06.220 make it. I imagine that they have disciplines 00:11:06.220 --> 00:11:09.159 like that within themselves. And so if we're 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:11.220 in traffic, it's one of my favorite examples. 00:11:12.830 --> 00:11:15.529 long time in south america but when i would i 00:11:15.529 --> 00:11:18.490 learned eventually to stop being like everybody 00:11:18.490 --> 00:11:20.970 else in the traffic jams it's all frustrated 00:11:20.970 --> 00:11:23.309 man i'm like wait a second i've got my phone 00:11:23.309 --> 00:11:26.129 right here i can put a podcast on i can call 00:11:26.129 --> 00:11:28.909 a friend i can use this like this time is mine 00:11:28.909 --> 00:11:32.129 no matter where i'm at to use how i want and 00:11:32.129 --> 00:11:34.889 just that mental shift that also put me in a 00:11:34.889 --> 00:11:36.690 better position to where when i'm coming to work 00:11:36.690 --> 00:11:40.750 i am not as stressed when i'm you know on my 00:11:40.750 --> 00:11:44.470 like client or a prospect that I'm trying to 00:11:44.470 --> 00:11:47.029 help see the value of working with us. I'm not 00:11:47.029 --> 00:11:49.190 coming in going like, Oh, I freaking hate traffic. 00:11:49.250 --> 00:11:51.309 Oh, you know, and complaining about that and 00:11:51.309 --> 00:11:53.730 distracting from the reality. So these emotional 00:11:53.730 --> 00:11:56.710 regulations, while they're, I don't want to say 00:11:56.710 --> 00:12:00.009 superfluous, but they're around what it is that 00:12:00.009 --> 00:12:02.549 we do. They're ultimately the essence that create 00:12:02.549 --> 00:12:04.610 the environment for us to be successful. And 00:12:04.610 --> 00:12:07.629 as Taylor Welch says, a strong person, a weak 00:12:07.629 --> 00:12:11.220 environment. will lose to a weak person who's 00:12:11.220 --> 00:12:14.100 in a strong environment. Think of a strong person 00:12:14.100 --> 00:12:16.100 with cinder blocks on their feet running a race 00:12:16.100 --> 00:12:18.539 compared to somebody that doesn't even have legs. 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:20.659 You know, like that person's probably going to 00:12:20.659 --> 00:12:24.960 win because the person is in an environment where 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:26.759 it's holding them back. So further thoughts on 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:30.039 that, Dr. Jacqueline? Well, I think our environment 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:34.549 definitely affects us. But in terms of adjusting 00:12:34.549 --> 00:12:36.870 it to help it make you better, right? We can 00:12:36.870 --> 00:12:39.870 do that. But it also, we have mirror neurons 00:12:39.870 --> 00:12:43.470 in our eyes, our brain, and we can absorb what's 00:12:43.470 --> 00:12:46.529 external to us. And because we are projecting 00:12:46.529 --> 00:12:50.350 everything that's inside us externally, and then 00:12:50.350 --> 00:12:54.490 we are ingesting, it's this cyclical dance. And 00:12:54.490 --> 00:12:56.889 you are inevitably a co -creator of your own 00:12:56.889 --> 00:13:00.490 reality because there are other factors that 00:13:00.490 --> 00:13:02.919 are programming you. So you have to be conscious 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:05.379 of who and what you're around. So just making 00:13:05.379 --> 00:13:08.379 sure that it's done intentionally. But then as 00:13:08.379 --> 00:13:11.659 in the professional world, when you're talking 00:13:11.659 --> 00:13:13.399 about somebody who's stressed, let's say it's 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:15.639 the leader. It's the same thing when you're in 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.919 a family environment, the head is going to kind 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:21.259 of be the sun, right? Everything and everyone 00:13:21.259 --> 00:13:23.919 revolves around them because they're the one 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:27.360 with the control. It's the responsibility, but 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:29.919 that means everybody is dependent on them. So 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:33.000 if they're stressed, It's going to radiate to 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.460 everybody else. But if they're calm and sturdy, 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:38.519 even when things get hard, recognizing that they 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:40.419 have emotions, they need to take a step back. 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:42.659 What they're doing is they're showing through 00:13:42.659 --> 00:13:46.299 modeled behavior how to manage this. You know, 00:13:46.299 --> 00:13:48.480 so it's naturally going to be absorbed by the 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:53.139 people that they're leading. So guilty. So guilty. 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:57.570 I had to look the hard way too. And I still have 00:13:57.570 --> 00:13:59.190 I'm stubborn. I still have to learn the hard 00:13:59.190 --> 00:14:02.730 way. But I love what I love how you led by examples. 00:14:02.769 --> 00:14:05.809 I came in today. You and Penny Wilson, both. 00:14:05.889 --> 00:14:07.429 I hope you'll catch up. You're both phenomenal 00:14:07.429 --> 00:14:11.149 leaders. And I don't want to just say therapists, 00:14:11.190 --> 00:14:14.970 but people who help others with emotional regulation 00:14:14.970 --> 00:14:18.350 and centeredness. I went right into my podcast 00:14:18.350 --> 00:14:20.529 with her the other day and same thing. I was 00:14:20.529 --> 00:14:22.929 kind of overstimulated. And she was like, so 00:14:22.929 --> 00:14:25.539 I told that and she immediately said. Would you 00:14:25.539 --> 00:14:27.720 like to do some breath work? And I was like, 00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:29.940 let's do it. Let's just dive in. And I came in 00:14:29.940 --> 00:14:32.559 today and same thing. You made space for me. 00:14:32.779 --> 00:14:35.200 Right. We're supposed to go live at 10 o 'clock. 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:37.519 Some people are super demanding on that. You 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:40.480 came in super balanced, ready and willing to 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:44.000 focus on my needs first. Make sure I was good. 00:14:44.669 --> 00:14:46.649 And then, of course, you had your questions too. 00:14:46.950 --> 00:14:49.610 And that type of leadership is something that 00:14:49.610 --> 00:14:51.629 I think a lot of startups could very much learn 00:14:51.629 --> 00:14:55.049 from. And we have a lot of people who are very, 00:14:55.090 --> 00:14:57.950 very focused on going into strategy and execution 00:14:57.950 --> 00:15:00.549 and just getting things done. And there's these 00:15:00.549 --> 00:15:03.590 shifts that can really, really help with the 00:15:03.590 --> 00:15:05.090 next level of growth. So when we come back, we're 00:15:05.090 --> 00:15:06.070 gonna take a little break. When we come back, 00:15:06.070 --> 00:15:08.049 we're gonna talk about how leaders can build 00:15:08.049 --> 00:15:11.870 trust, alignment, and strengthen their teams. 00:15:12.350 --> 00:15:14.690 And I want to dive into some of the ways that 00:15:14.690 --> 00:15:18.490 those leaders can apply it, perhaps on a daily, 00:15:18.529 --> 00:15:21.669 weekly or monthly basis. We'll see what Dr. Jacqueline 00:15:21.669 --> 00:15:24.409 brings to the table. All right. Welcome in to 00:15:24.409 --> 00:15:27.450 Vision Pros Live with Jackson Callum. I'm your 00:15:27.450 --> 00:15:29.889 show host. We'll be doing interviews for visionary 00:15:29.889 --> 00:15:32.649 entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building 00:15:32.649 --> 00:15:44.019 fantastic visions out there. Hey, what's up, 00:15:44.100 --> 00:15:46.039 my friends? Welcome in to Vision Pros Live. I'm 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:47.700 your show host, Jackson Callum, founder and CEO 00:15:47.700 --> 00:15:50.600 of First Class Business. And I am in like constant 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:53.720 overstimulation mode lately. And I think it has 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:55.679 a lot to do with the really cool projects that 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:59.720 we're doing with AI. And as I say that, I'm super 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:02.539 glad that our lineup of guests lately has been 00:16:02.539 --> 00:16:06.419 a lot of leadership development, emotional support 00:16:06.419 --> 00:16:09.950 individuals. legends like Dr. Jacqueline Campbell, 00:16:10.049 --> 00:16:12.230 who's here today to help us with the overlooked 00:16:12.230 --> 00:16:14.350 shifts in emotional intelligence that leaders 00:16:14.350 --> 00:16:15.889 really need to know. And I'm telling you, my 00:16:15.889 --> 00:16:17.370 friends, if you want to create a great company, 00:16:17.490 --> 00:16:19.830 one, you got to have a clear vision. In order 00:16:19.830 --> 00:16:21.309 to have a clear vision, you got to have a clear 00:16:21.309 --> 00:16:24.529 head, mind, and heart. In addition to that, you 00:16:24.529 --> 00:16:27.399 also have to have a great culture. And if you 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:29.500 have a great culture, guess what? People want 00:16:29.500 --> 00:16:31.320 to belong to it. That's what attracts people 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:32.840 to say, I want to work with you. Not our product 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:35.200 and our service. It's what we're building. And 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:37.220 then that attracts people to come in. You've 00:16:37.220 --> 00:16:38.940 got to be able to position leaders well. They 00:16:38.940 --> 00:16:41.299 want infrastructure. They want to know that they're 00:16:41.299 --> 00:16:42.779 going to be safe here. They want to know that 00:16:42.779 --> 00:16:44.100 they're going to be abundant and they're going 00:16:44.100 --> 00:16:46.440 to win. So those three elements, in order to 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.419 get those aspects right, we've got to have people 00:16:49.419 --> 00:16:51.700 like Dr. Campbell by our side. As I get ready 00:16:51.700 --> 00:16:54.440 to bring her back on stage and we dive into some 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:56.649 of the emotional intelligence sequence. can apply, 00:16:56.850 --> 00:16:58.789 right? What you're doing and what you're doing 00:16:58.789 --> 00:17:01.070 with your teams. We first want to give you some 00:17:01.070 --> 00:17:04.009 more resources. First is AI Mavericks. I actually 00:17:04.009 --> 00:17:06.170 invest as a member of AI Mavericks. It's like 00:17:06.170 --> 00:17:08.210 60 bucks a month right now. I don't know if their 00:17:08.210 --> 00:17:10.470 price is going up or not, but I joined as quickly 00:17:10.470 --> 00:17:12.829 as I could because I've known Austin Armstrong 00:17:12.829 --> 00:17:15.730 for a little less than a year now. Met him at 00:17:15.730 --> 00:17:17.309 Social Media Marketing World. And even though 00:17:17.309 --> 00:17:19.509 he's got a million followers, this dude was so 00:17:19.509 --> 00:17:23.049 present. He was so... genuinely ready and available 00:17:23.049 --> 00:17:25.809 to talk to anybody who was there. His Facebook 00:17:25.809 --> 00:17:28.970 is amazing to follow. I just, he's like my only 00:17:28.970 --> 00:17:31.609 Facebook feed at this point, just his stuff popping 00:17:31.609 --> 00:17:33.890 up. And it's because I learned so much from it. 00:17:33.910 --> 00:17:36.009 There's so much value that comes out of it. And 00:17:36.009 --> 00:17:38.170 I'm trying to make sure that I'm tied into him 00:17:38.170 --> 00:17:40.690 and Scott Simpson, who's this partner on this 00:17:40.690 --> 00:17:42.809 venture, because both of them are researching 00:17:42.809 --> 00:17:45.849 AI at a super advanced level. And they're going 00:17:45.849 --> 00:17:49.170 into things like the agentic, sorry, the agents, 00:17:49.369 --> 00:17:51.769 agentic state as a whole. different topic, but 00:17:51.769 --> 00:17:53.990 the agents that can actually do the work for 00:17:53.990 --> 00:17:56.670 us. And so if you're looking for advanced AI 00:17:56.670 --> 00:17:59.230 marketing and how to use AI, definitely check 00:17:59.230 --> 00:18:01.150 out what they're up to and why we're using that. 00:18:01.369 --> 00:18:03.730 I also have my own AI community. You would think 00:18:03.730 --> 00:18:05.430 that we wouldn't do that, but I believe in collaboration, 00:18:05.769 --> 00:18:08.269 not competition where you're trying to just crush 00:18:08.269 --> 00:18:10.069 others. Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, we're great 00:18:10.069 --> 00:18:12.650 friends. We got to make the same thing happen 00:18:12.650 --> 00:18:14.980 if we want to create a new world. The AI marketplace 00:18:14.980 --> 00:18:17.539 is what we've launched at First Class Business. 00:18:17.619 --> 00:18:20.099 You go to ai .firstclassbusiness .io. This is 00:18:20.099 --> 00:18:22.579 so important for the world. My friends, you already 00:18:22.579 --> 00:18:26.319 are AI experts. We've all been using AI for decades. 00:18:26.539 --> 00:18:29.210 And I think so many of you... have friends and 00:18:29.210 --> 00:18:31.009 family who are professionals who are terrified 00:18:31.009 --> 00:18:32.549 of what's going on with AI and they're worried 00:18:32.549 --> 00:18:33.809 about, are they going to have a job in a year 00:18:33.809 --> 00:18:37.269 from now? And yes, if you get ahead of this AI 00:18:37.269 --> 00:18:39.329 curve and make sure that you position yourself 00:18:39.329 --> 00:18:41.230 to just understand the language a little bit, 00:18:41.269 --> 00:18:42.970 you don't have to be a tech. That's the best 00:18:42.970 --> 00:18:45.430 part. You're going to do better with AI as a 00:18:45.430 --> 00:18:48.269 normal human being than a tech geek would, because 00:18:48.269 --> 00:18:50.849 if you understand emotional intelligence and 00:18:50.849 --> 00:18:53.210 human relationships, you're going to be at the 00:18:53.210 --> 00:18:54.690 front run or you're going to be the front runner 00:18:54.690 --> 00:18:57.450 to help companies be able to create the next 00:18:57.450 --> 00:18:59.930 level. of evolution that's going to take AI probably 00:18:59.930 --> 00:19:10.019 five to 15 years to figure out anyway. resume 00:19:10.019 --> 00:19:12.660 and even pass your interviews so that if you 00:19:12.660 --> 00:19:15.019 do need to just transition transition to another 00:19:15.019 --> 00:19:17.720 job because your current company doesn't believe 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:19.720 in your ai skills well we want to empower you 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:21.819 to do that and on the business side it shows 00:19:21.819 --> 00:19:24.160 you your bottlenecks and i'm talking about real 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:26.920 bottlenecks at first when i designed this ai 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:29.480 tried to tell me um one of the questions was 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:34.619 is your uh do you do you want to automate your 00:19:34.619 --> 00:19:36.400 prospect process or something like i was like 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:39.200 you can't automate prospecting. That's automating 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:41.319 your relationships. It's impossible. And so I 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:43.019 pushed back on it and I was like, look, maybe 00:19:43.019 --> 00:19:44.660 you can do that, but right now, what are the 00:19:44.660 --> 00:19:46.900 practical things that we're doing? Well, here's 00:19:46.900 --> 00:19:50.500 one. Um, I don't have time. I care about my quality 00:19:50.500 --> 00:19:52.920 assurance with my, with my clients, but I don't 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:55.200 have time to test it every day. And I was like, 00:19:55.299 --> 00:19:57.910 Oh. Oh yeah, that's a huge thing. That could 00:19:57.910 --> 00:20:00.269 absolutely be done with AI. And so of course 00:20:00.269 --> 00:20:02.650 we then help people build these systems out through 00:20:02.650 --> 00:20:04.609 the process. And so I want to get back to Dr. 00:20:04.750 --> 00:20:06.190 Campbell, but I'm just so excited about what 00:20:06.190 --> 00:20:07.849 this has been doing for us lately. It's helped 00:20:07.849 --> 00:20:10.150 us increase our YouTube subscribers by over a 00:20:10.150 --> 00:20:13.490 thousand subscribers in the last five days. We 00:20:13.490 --> 00:20:15.670 were at 100 subscribers, my friends, like it 00:20:15.670 --> 00:20:17.910 is so cool. It can be done. We launched 24 blog 00:20:17.910 --> 00:20:20.490 posts in the last three days, all incredible. 00:20:21.230 --> 00:20:24.390 deep blog posts that have been stuck in my brain 00:20:24.390 --> 00:20:26.410 for the last 15 years that I couldn't do the 00:20:26.410 --> 00:20:28.809 research for by myself. So I just can't, I can't 00:20:28.809 --> 00:20:31.829 talk about this enough because you guys, we've 00:20:31.829 --> 00:20:33.910 got to dive in and use these tools in order to 00:20:33.910 --> 00:20:35.990 create abundance for ourselves. The world has 00:20:35.990 --> 00:20:37.930 not been abundant in business for more than 50 00:20:37.930 --> 00:20:40.569 years. 66 % of businesses fell within 10 years. 00:20:40.650 --> 00:20:43.829 We got to stop that. Then there's the water project 00:20:43.829 --> 00:20:46.390 is super near and dear to my heart at this point 00:20:46.390 --> 00:20:48.970 because I didn't get it when I first saw it. 00:20:49.150 --> 00:20:51.069 Somebody was telling me about it. I've never 00:20:51.069 --> 00:20:52.869 been thirsty in my life, I don't think. And so 00:20:52.869 --> 00:20:55.269 that's probably why. But I see these kids celebrating 00:20:55.269 --> 00:20:58.390 water like my kids celebrate Christmas Day. And 00:20:58.390 --> 00:21:00.609 that should help us realize like, whoa, there's 00:21:00.609 --> 00:21:02.509 a big need here. What if our kids had to leave 00:21:02.509 --> 00:21:05.130 school to get water or we had to leave work to 00:21:05.130 --> 00:21:07.170 go find an unknown water source for our family? 00:21:07.349 --> 00:21:09.470 We don't have to do that. But there's millions 00:21:09.470 --> 00:21:11.750 of people in Africa who do. The neat thing about 00:21:11.750 --> 00:21:13.809 the water project, when you decide to give 10 00:21:13.809 --> 00:21:16.509 to 20 bucks to it, they actually will tell you. 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:19.240 what happened with the project, what the timeline 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:21.299 is, how it's coming to fruition and show you 00:21:21.299 --> 00:21:22.859 that they actually did the work. And I love that 00:21:22.859 --> 00:21:25.259 level of transparency. My friends, there's 8 00:21:25.259 --> 00:21:27.160 billion people in this world to help. So if you 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:29.059 know of another cause that you'd like to see 00:21:29.059 --> 00:21:31.539 us talk about, do me a huge favor, drop it in 00:21:31.539 --> 00:21:33.799 the comments. I will personally take a look at 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:36.680 any cause that comes through this process and 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:39.119 see what we can do to help out with that cause 00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:40.880 as well. I really hope you join us on that as 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:42.960 we go back to helping each one of your visions. 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:45.779 So without further ado, Dr. Jacqueline, again, 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:48.859 thanks for being here today. Sure. I appreciate 00:21:48.859 --> 00:21:51.799 you coming back and I really love what you're 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:57.940 doing. I love the cause. Which one? Right. You, 00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:00.720 you have so much, but I feel like the way that 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:02.519 you're doing it, you're, you're trying to help 00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:05.839 everybody, right? Like it seems like you don't 00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:09.640 always do the same cause, right? You're trying 00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:12.819 to spread it. Well, here's my secret. And this 00:22:12.819 --> 00:22:15.539 is our, this is our mantra at first class business. 00:22:15.619 --> 00:22:17.380 It's our number one rule. And the number one 00:22:17.380 --> 00:22:21.000 rule is we do what's best for those that we serve. 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:24.599 And everybody who comes in front of us is the 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:27.210 next person that we serve. And so we're always 00:22:27.210 --> 00:22:29.349 going to do what's best. And that helps us move 00:22:29.349 --> 00:22:32.309 into these and to back to that emotional intelligence 00:22:32.309 --> 00:22:34.990 aspect, this topic that's so important to me. 00:22:35.049 --> 00:22:37.109 It's like, that's why I'm always finding leaders 00:22:37.109 --> 00:22:38.990 like you too, because I want to continue to help 00:22:38.990 --> 00:22:41.250 the world realize that this is something that 00:22:41.250 --> 00:22:43.730 can have an incredible positive impact on the 00:22:43.730 --> 00:22:45.750 world and it can change it for the better. We 00:22:45.750 --> 00:22:48.769 can win more as a society, as human beings, if 00:22:48.769 --> 00:22:52.950 we just dive into it. So taking a moment to honor 00:22:52.950 --> 00:22:56.509 that reality, let's dive into the, What can be 00:22:56.509 --> 00:23:01.369 done weekly, monthly, or daily in relation to 00:23:01.369 --> 00:23:04.029 how leaders can build trust, alignment, and stronger 00:23:04.029 --> 00:23:09.430 teams? Well, let's do one first because there's 00:23:09.430 --> 00:23:11.789 so much to unpack. You're talking about build 00:23:11.789 --> 00:23:14.470 trust, alignment within their teams, right? And 00:23:14.470 --> 00:23:16.470 stronger teams. Yeah. I mean, I think that that 00:23:16.470 --> 00:23:18.029 ultimately leads to, right, is if you can build 00:23:18.029 --> 00:23:19.670 trust and you can build alignment, it's going 00:23:19.670 --> 00:23:22.059 to be strengthened. But how do we do that? It 00:23:22.059 --> 00:23:24.420 does. And you're keep in mind, you're leading 00:23:24.420 --> 00:23:27.960 at home and you're leading at work. Right. So 00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:30.519 one is going to be a reflection of the other. 00:23:30.539 --> 00:23:34.660 I wrote a book called Life's Contradictions. 00:23:34.660 --> 00:23:37.980 It's actually right over my shoulder. In this 00:23:37.980 --> 00:23:41.920 book, I discuss how leaders have personal issues 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:44.299 that are reflecting their professional issues. 00:23:44.460 --> 00:23:46.740 And as they balance their nervous system, both 00:23:46.740 --> 00:23:49.680 of them come into alignment. Now, we can't find 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:52.900 alignment with our teams or anybody else if we 00:23:52.900 --> 00:23:56.019 don't have alignment with ourselves because we 00:23:56.019 --> 00:23:58.940 get so disorganized and we don't have clarity 00:23:58.940 --> 00:24:00.960 and we kind of tend to think that we have to 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.599 have it all together. So we end up doing something, 00:24:03.700 --> 00:24:07.119 making a decision, giving an answer when I don't 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:10.039 even have clarity because we're scared of using 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:14.319 the words, I don't know. Give me a minute, right? 00:24:14.460 --> 00:24:16.839 Or either give me a minute, give me 24 hours. 00:24:17.750 --> 00:24:20.890 Let's say, for example, you're and this is something 00:24:20.890 --> 00:24:24.069 that they can do on a daily basis. I ground before 00:24:24.069 --> 00:24:28.289 I go into a meeting or meet with somebody. If 00:24:28.289 --> 00:24:30.849 it's just for a quick second, that's fine at 00:24:30.849 --> 00:24:33.470 the very least for the quick second. But usually 00:24:33.470 --> 00:24:36.150 for about five minutes for this podcast, I did 00:24:36.150 --> 00:24:38.269 a 15 minute breath work. Right. So we have to 00:24:38.269 --> 00:24:40.789 prioritize what we're doing based off of who 00:24:40.789 --> 00:24:42.829 and what we're going to interact with. So you 00:24:42.829 --> 00:24:45.710 need to ground yourself. You have clarity. And 00:24:45.710 --> 00:24:50.109 then moving forward. i don't ever make a an important 00:24:50.109 --> 00:24:53.089 decision that's going to change the direct uh 00:24:53.089 --> 00:24:56.329 the trajectory for my personal life or my professional 00:24:56.329 --> 00:25:00.410 life if i i do it within um i'm sorry i don't 00:25:00.410 --> 00:25:03.309 make the decision for 72 hours no matter how 00:25:03.309 --> 00:25:06.829 happy i am about it or if i'm nervous about it 00:25:06.829 --> 00:25:09.509 that is not entrepreneurial and it should be 00:25:09.509 --> 00:25:13.630 it should be we get so impulsive just because 00:25:13.630 --> 00:25:15.910 they're good hormones and good feelings doesn't 00:25:15.910 --> 00:25:18.819 mean that they're good They can still blind you. 00:25:19.380 --> 00:25:22.319 Oh my gosh, they will blind you. They will blind 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:25.339 us. And well, it also, as an entrepreneur, not 00:25:25.339 --> 00:25:27.680 the solopreneurs, my friends, I don't believe 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:29.599 that's entrepreneurship. I love you and I hope 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.140 you continue to look for your teams because it 00:25:32.140 --> 00:25:33.960 is a team sport. I've never met a successful 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:36.619 solopreneur. So with that said, it undermines 00:25:36.619 --> 00:25:39.759 your teams, right? If I make a decision without 00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:42.900 talking and I do it all the time, I mess this 00:25:42.900 --> 00:25:44.599 up all the time. And I finally got somebody on 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:47.859 my team. who has a very strong voice and pushes 00:25:47.859 --> 00:25:50.420 back on that. And I'm so happy that they do it. 00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:52.700 I trust I get pissed in the moment, but I'm starting 00:25:52.700 --> 00:25:55.759 to learn to dive more into that humility. And 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.839 I've got a little team, three people who are 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:00.539 on what we call the governing body. And there's 00:26:00.539 --> 00:26:02.900 four of us in the governing body. I won't make 00:26:02.900 --> 00:26:05.140 big decisions without consulting with those three 00:26:05.140 --> 00:26:08.079 individuals first. And if we're in a position 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:11.799 where two of us want to do it and two of us don't 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.259 want to do it, we agree on who's going to be 00:26:14.259 --> 00:26:17.329 the mediator. who comes in to help us be the 00:26:17.329 --> 00:26:19.210 tiebreaker to decide and then we'll respect each 00:26:19.210 --> 00:26:21.789 other on that and that protects me from one of 00:26:21.789 --> 00:26:24.890 my favorite scariest quotes is absolute power 00:26:24.890 --> 00:26:28.569 corrupts absolutely and every founder who's by 00:26:28.569 --> 00:26:31.289 themselves is stuck in that position where you 00:26:31.289 --> 00:26:36.309 are 100 likely to be corrupted you cannot leave 00:26:36.309 --> 00:26:38.750 yourself in that position and make great decisions 00:26:38.750 --> 00:26:40.920 as a business owner in my humble opinion. So 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:42.779 please continue. That was just sparked. And I 00:26:42.779 --> 00:26:44.720 was like, yeah, I mess this up all the time. 00:26:44.740 --> 00:26:46.920 And I'm sure other visionaries do too. Well, 00:26:47.059 --> 00:26:49.619 I, I appreciate your vulnerability and saying 00:26:49.619 --> 00:26:52.759 that because if we don't mess things up or if 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:54.140 we don't acknowledge that we've messed things 00:26:54.140 --> 00:26:55.779 up because sometimes we don't want to, right. 00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:59.180 Then we can't get the humility that comes with 00:26:59.180 --> 00:27:02.400 it because that comes with wisdom and it's hard. 00:27:02.779 --> 00:27:07.170 It's so hard to our ego. Because we're so scared 00:27:07.170 --> 00:27:09.329 of losing that ego that we're like, no, we have 00:27:09.329 --> 00:27:10.990 to be right. We have to hold it all together. 00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:14.849 And I have to be the one in charge. And humility 00:27:14.849 --> 00:27:16.890 says, yeah, you really, you're not the smartest 00:27:16.890 --> 00:27:19.450 in the room. Sorry. I know you think you are, 00:27:19.569 --> 00:27:22.750 but you're really not. So when it comes to that 00:27:22.750 --> 00:27:24.609 saying, if you're the smartest person in the 00:27:24.609 --> 00:27:26.430 room, you're in the wrong room. I don't agree. 00:27:26.890 --> 00:27:31.529 I hate that saying. It makes me feel awful because 00:27:31.529 --> 00:27:33.529 I'm usually the freaking smartest person in the 00:27:33.529 --> 00:27:36.170 room on a specific topic. But like in every other 00:27:36.170 --> 00:27:39.529 thing else, I'm lost. And so it's so frustrating 00:27:39.529 --> 00:27:42.109 because you're like, like, no, I can't like dumb 00:27:42.109 --> 00:27:45.950 down. But I know I don't relate to people because. 00:27:46.210 --> 00:27:48.910 So thanks for calling it out. But what am I supposed 00:27:48.910 --> 00:27:51.829 to fix that? You know, like, so, yeah, that's 00:27:51.829 --> 00:27:55.549 really. Well, it helps us build humility, but 00:27:55.549 --> 00:27:57.970 it also helps us see the value in other people. 00:27:58.069 --> 00:28:01.049 So when we have stressed surface, let's say you're 00:28:01.049 --> 00:28:03.130 dealing with a difficult co -worker that you 00:28:03.130 --> 00:28:05.579 just want them to do something for you. are you 00:28:05.579 --> 00:28:07.420 being too controlling are you not seeing their 00:28:07.420 --> 00:28:09.880 value because they might just be in the wrong 00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:11.539 position if they're not doing what you want them 00:28:11.539 --> 00:28:15.019 to do or you might need to reframe and ask them 00:28:15.019 --> 00:28:17.759 a different way which means you need to collaborate 00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:21.180 better and individuals who are looking to be 00:28:21.180 --> 00:28:25.519 in leadership for control they always micromanage 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:31.099 or they belittle That's not right. The best leaders, 00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:35.200 the best people are the ones who say, no, I go 00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:37.339 to different rooms to get different information. 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.599 And even on the thing that I'm an expert at, 00:28:40.779 --> 00:28:44.119 the more you learn, the less you realize, you 00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.980 know, because there's so much to learn. So you 00:28:46.980 --> 00:28:49.640 have to be a lifelong learner and you naturally 00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:53.349 have. You brought up two big things that I'm 00:28:53.349 --> 00:28:56.650 going to showcase. And one is going to, I hope 00:28:56.650 --> 00:28:58.329 it blows all y 'all's minds as you're listening 00:28:58.329 --> 00:29:02.450 in our gravel nerds, humility. This word is one 00:29:02.450 --> 00:29:04.950 of the most misunderstood words of our generations. 00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.359 I got other podcasts where I literally talk in 00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:10.619 depth, and I won't do that to you guys. But it 00:29:10.619 --> 00:29:12.859 is so, one, it's about intentionality, my friends. 00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:14.740 If we're not getting intentional with how we're 00:29:14.740 --> 00:29:17.200 doing things, then, you know, whether it's our 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.759 tone, our cadence, or our word choice, right? 00:29:19.819 --> 00:29:22.680 I can tell somebody I love you, and, like, they 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.539 won't get it because I didn't deliver it with 00:29:25.539 --> 00:29:28.259 a sense of meaning. Or I can tell somebody, like, 00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:30.619 I like you, and I can confuse them because, again, 00:29:30.660 --> 00:29:33.960 there's nuance to all of these realities. The 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.289 word humility. is one of the most misunderstood 00:29:36.289 --> 00:29:39.170 words of our generation. And I'm talking the 00:29:39.170 --> 00:29:41.869 last thousand years, probably. And we're going 00:29:41.869 --> 00:29:44.390 to go over here, Google. And Google recently 00:29:44.390 --> 00:29:46.369 updated this. I'm glad they're getting closer. 00:29:46.490 --> 00:29:48.829 But it says, humility is the quality of having 00:29:48.829 --> 00:29:53.130 a modest view of one's value or importance. It 00:29:53.130 --> 00:29:56.890 used to say a low view of oneself. That is the 00:29:56.890 --> 00:30:00.319 exact opposite. Of the definition, the original 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:04.500 definition from over 2000 years ago in Judaism 00:30:04.500 --> 00:30:07.299 and other such languages, probably Aramaic, I 00:30:07.299 --> 00:30:08.480 can't remember which one from the study now, 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.819 but the original definition of humility as defined 00:30:11.819 --> 00:30:14.640 by the sources of truth that were trying to help 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:18.880 us value these virtues was a full appreciation 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:24.700 for oneself and a full appreciation for everything 00:30:24.700 --> 00:30:29.059 else. And so what does that mean? That means 00:30:29.059 --> 00:30:33.480 that I can 100 % appreciate my own beauty. While 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:35.920 also appreciating everybody else's beauty. I 00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.240 can appreciate my intelligence and realize what 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.839 I have while making sure to know that I'm not 00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:42.700 better than anybody else just because I happen 00:30:42.700 --> 00:30:45.880 to have gained that. And so when we shift our 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.000 understanding of what this word means, so many 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:49.960 people self -deprecate and think it's humility. 00:30:50.059 --> 00:30:51.759 That's not humility. That's just a different 00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.980 type of vice. So we're going to come back to 00:30:53.980 --> 00:30:55.859 that too, Dr. Campbell. But I also want to show 00:30:55.859 --> 00:30:59.319 this because you brought up the home. work and 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.680 they do intertwine and oftentimes we intertwine 00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:04.519 them in ways that are super destructive when 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:06.900 it comes to our visions and I wrote this great 00:31:06.900 --> 00:31:09.839 article in this the most expensive decision and 00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:11.960 it's having the wrong people in the room look 00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.420 if I'm at war and you know this is a Marine I 00:31:14.420 --> 00:31:17.599 am NOT going to call my wife and say hey honey 00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:20.630 should I had barged this door down You don't 00:31:20.630 --> 00:31:22.869 talk to your wife about things like that when 00:31:22.869 --> 00:31:24.789 you're at war like that. And when you come home, 00:31:24.829 --> 00:31:26.950 you probably don't talk to things as a soldier. 00:31:27.009 --> 00:31:30.470 But business owners do this all the time. And 00:31:30.470 --> 00:31:32.430 so what happens when a business owner turns to 00:31:32.430 --> 00:31:35.630 their spouse or a family for major business decisions? 00:31:36.069 --> 00:31:38.549 Well, that's the wrong room entirely. According 00:31:38.549 --> 00:31:42.069 to studies, family to business interference undermines 00:31:42.069 --> 00:31:44.609 firm performance. A spouse without executive 00:31:44.609 --> 00:31:46.940 experience. This is key. Your spouse can have 00:31:46.940 --> 00:31:48.400 executive experience and they can crush it in 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.000 your business. I have nothing against it. I love 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:52.059 having a family involved if they have executive 00:31:52.059 --> 00:31:54.740 experience in the business. But a spouse without 00:31:54.740 --> 00:31:57.359 it in the business is filtering your decisions 00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:01.119 through personal fear, not through strategy. 00:32:01.299 --> 00:32:05.079 So many of us as business owners are guilty of 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.369 making a couple bad decisions. telling our spouses 00:32:08.369 --> 00:32:11.490 too much about said bad decision, then putting 00:32:11.490 --> 00:32:14.009 the onus on them for future decisions and saying, 00:32:14.029 --> 00:32:15.890 well, what do I do, honey? You know, should I 00:32:15.890 --> 00:32:18.369 do this or not? And how in the world are they 00:32:18.369 --> 00:32:20.549 supposed to come up with the right answer if 00:32:20.549 --> 00:32:22.609 they don't know how business actually works? 00:32:22.730 --> 00:32:24.609 I think this is one of the most devastating things 00:32:24.609 --> 00:32:26.109 that happens to visionaries and entrepreneurs. 00:32:26.630 --> 00:32:28.609 Feel free to speak to either one, Dr. Jacqueline. 00:32:30.700 --> 00:32:33.119 With what you were talking about in terms of 00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:34.779 sharing with people not in the room, especially 00:32:34.779 --> 00:32:38.339 making the decision, one thing which was really 00:32:38.339 --> 00:32:41.140 unfortunate, and I wish this wasn't the case, 00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:44.640 but it's a truth that I had to accept. I couldn't 00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:46.819 take business advice because I'm a science person. 00:32:47.059 --> 00:32:49.799 I know how to transform a human being, right? 00:32:49.940 --> 00:32:53.299 So like the nervous system is my spot, right? 00:32:53.869 --> 00:32:56.349 When it comes to business decision, I was getting 00:32:56.349 --> 00:32:59.049 the wrong consultants, the wrong strategists, 00:32:59.049 --> 00:33:02.829 the wrong coaches, because they were multimillionaires 00:33:02.829 --> 00:33:05.869 with all these businesses. They must know more 00:33:05.869 --> 00:33:09.750 than me. So I actually self -deprecated and I 00:33:09.750 --> 00:33:13.089 got myself into hustle culture. That's not me. 00:33:13.210 --> 00:33:15.880 I got like both feet. I'm a hippie. You know, 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.599 like I love meditating. I love doing things then. 00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:21.619 And I knew that there's got to be a different 00:33:21.619 --> 00:33:23.400 way than what they're telling me, but I didn't 00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.019 trust myself. And that led to a business failure 00:33:27.019 --> 00:33:30.799 as a single mom filing bankruptcy, losing everything. 00:33:30.859 --> 00:33:33.299 And I still have to recover from all of that. 00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:37.140 But that's because I took advice from somebody 00:33:37.140 --> 00:33:39.640 I thought knew more because they had more money 00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.339 and experience. Well, if they aren't aligned 00:33:42.339 --> 00:33:45.130 with you. They're really not going to give you 00:33:45.130 --> 00:33:49.150 the right advice. So now I discuss things, right? 00:33:49.250 --> 00:33:51.269 And of course I discuss with Chet to get another, 00:33:51.450 --> 00:33:55.009 you know, more experience. But after I talk to 00:33:55.009 --> 00:33:58.569 only people who have lived my experience as a 00:33:58.569 --> 00:34:02.630 visionary leader, sacrificing so much time, energy, 00:34:02.730 --> 00:34:07.390 money, livelihood to get the vision, man, like 00:34:07.390 --> 00:34:10.989 to create the vision. Those are the only people 00:34:10.989 --> 00:34:13.670 who I will discuss about the hard decisions and 00:34:13.670 --> 00:34:17.489 the struggle. Anybody else, they can't be part 00:34:17.489 --> 00:34:19.989 of that conversation because they just don't 00:34:19.989 --> 00:34:22.190 get it, which is okay. But I also don't talk 00:34:22.190 --> 00:34:24.750 to people who have a lot of money who are in 00:34:24.750 --> 00:34:27.190 hustle culture because they can't give me anything 00:34:27.190 --> 00:34:29.510 worth of value. Even if they tell me how to scale 00:34:29.510 --> 00:34:32.030 to, you know, multimillion, it's not worth it. 00:34:32.550 --> 00:34:35.630 I am so grateful you're talking all about this 00:34:35.630 --> 00:34:38.090 because those blog posts that have been driving 00:34:38.090 --> 00:34:41.239 me crazy for years, almost all of them are synchronized 00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.739 together to talk about how to not fall on perhaps 00:34:43.739 --> 00:34:46.179 that we both felt and how to recognize the right 00:34:46.179 --> 00:34:48.840 people and so i'm hoping to pave the path for 00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:50.579 people so they can see it i want to go back to 00:34:50.579 --> 00:34:52.280 something you said you talked about the failure 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.659 the bankruptcy and the difficulties i also have 00:34:55.659 --> 00:34:57.980 my failures and there was a moment where i told 00:34:57.980 --> 00:35:00.619 my sister during one of the most vulnerable points 00:35:00.619 --> 00:35:04.019 in my life and i said you know what the good 00:35:04.019 --> 00:35:06.760 news the great thing about being in this hole 00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.829 right now that i can't get out of I can't screw 00:35:09.829 --> 00:35:14.590 anything up. Yeah. I was stuck. There was nothing 00:35:14.590 --> 00:35:17.909 I could freaking do. And so I learned a very 00:35:17.909 --> 00:35:21.170 hard lesson as a leader and visionary that I 00:35:21.170 --> 00:35:23.449 wasn't ready for the next level. And I learned 00:35:23.449 --> 00:35:25.869 to be grateful to my God about it because I was 00:35:25.869 --> 00:35:28.329 like, man, if I look back on myself 10 years 00:35:28.329 --> 00:35:32.050 ago and I become a multimillionaire, I would 00:35:32.050 --> 00:35:34.980 have ruined my life. I would have ruined my relationships 00:35:34.980 --> 00:35:37.280 at an even higher level. I wasn't ready yet. 00:35:37.380 --> 00:35:39.679 And I could not have seen it the way that I see 00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:42.320 it now that I had that time to sit in that hole 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:44.880 and to know that, wow, this really freaking sucks. 00:35:45.019 --> 00:35:48.400 And I got myself here. But as I try to figure 00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:50.579 out how to dig out, I have nothing but time in 00:35:50.579 --> 00:35:52.820 my hands to think about all the things I did 00:35:52.820 --> 00:35:55.760 wrong to get myself in that situation and find 00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:58.039 that sense of like, you know what? God knows 00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:00.469 where I'm at. I can appreciate this. I can keep 00:36:00.469 --> 00:36:03.030 moving. I think a lot of visionaries relate to 00:36:03.030 --> 00:36:05.489 being in those types of situations. So you want 00:36:05.489 --> 00:36:06.750 to speak more about that or do you want to move 00:36:06.750 --> 00:36:09.010 to the next subject? Actually, while you were 00:36:09.010 --> 00:36:12.829 saying that, what I was thinking of is now that 00:36:12.829 --> 00:36:15.230 I had that moment to moment, it was like a whole 00:36:15.230 --> 00:36:17.869 year that I spent alone. I'm like, I can't be 00:36:17.869 --> 00:36:20.909 making any decisions right now. I really got. 00:36:21.579 --> 00:36:25.059 a lot of gratitude for sitting in silence to 00:36:25.059 --> 00:36:26.900 wait for the answer to surface and the universe 00:36:26.900 --> 00:36:28.960 helps right god whatever you want to call it 00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:31.880 source it is there and it's there to guide you 00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:34.760 but it only is guiding you with your intuition 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:36.940 because that's what picks up on it when you're 00:36:36.940 --> 00:36:40.119 still and so at the end of the day with all of 00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:42.630 my lessons All the information that's out there 00:36:42.630 --> 00:36:44.289 that's going to train me how to run a business 00:36:44.289 --> 00:36:47.130 and all of these people who they have been through 00:36:47.130 --> 00:36:49.510 this before, if they give me advice, I always 00:36:49.510 --> 00:36:51.969 go back into silence and I wait for the answer 00:36:51.969 --> 00:36:55.869 to be validated and verified of what I'm supposed 00:36:55.869 --> 00:36:58.829 to do to move forward. But if leaders don't have 00:36:58.829 --> 00:37:01.949 that discipline to hold themselves back from 00:37:01.949 --> 00:37:05.469 a great idea, right? Or freak out because of 00:37:05.469 --> 00:37:08.369 something that's scary to connect with themselves, 00:37:08.530 --> 00:37:11.539 to find alignment. And then with discipline, 00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:15.800 move forward because you can't run forward. That 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:18.860 just, you can't be still enough to hear the guidance 00:37:18.860 --> 00:37:20.980 and to connect with the people around you to 00:37:20.980 --> 00:37:22.480 make sure that they're still in alignment with 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.079 you, with all of us moving forward together. 00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:27.840 If you start sprinting, it's just not going to 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.199 work. I do it all the time and it slows us down 00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:34.699 all the time as a team. And so it's something, 00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.599 the big topic of this week for our company is. 00:37:38.170 --> 00:37:40.449 I've got to make sure that I include my team 00:37:40.449 --> 00:37:43.590 more often when I'm creating these crazy ambitions. 00:37:44.449 --> 00:37:47.309 And, you know, whether it's shiny object or even 00:37:47.309 --> 00:37:49.070 it's something that's valuable, my friends, it 00:37:49.070 --> 00:37:51.469 can be something that's super valuable. But if 00:37:51.469 --> 00:37:53.389 you leave your team out or you leave the people 00:37:53.389 --> 00:37:55.289 out who are supposed to be supporting it, then 00:37:55.289 --> 00:37:57.789 it can disrupt the process and it can ruin the 00:37:57.789 --> 00:37:59.309 whole experience. Just like if you go to a movie. 00:37:59.579 --> 00:38:01.239 And you're excited to see it, but the person 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:03.840 with you is being a snob or being a jerk. It's 00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:05.639 like that can disrupt the entire experience. 00:38:05.820 --> 00:38:08.179 And so, or they're ignoring you. There's so many 00:38:08.179 --> 00:38:10.400 ways we can get that wrong. So let's dive back 00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.920 into building strength and alignment with team 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.539 members. What's something that can be done weekly 00:38:16.539 --> 00:38:21.059 or monthly or quarterly? I think that you and 00:38:21.059 --> 00:38:22.699 I are in alignment because I was just thinking 00:38:22.699 --> 00:38:24.420 we have to get back on that. And that's exactly 00:38:24.420 --> 00:38:28.280 what you said. When it comes to daily, we were 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:30.280 talking about being able to ground yourself before 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.760 you make those decisions and paying attention 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:34.880 to who you're meeting with. At the end of the 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.639 day, making sure that you actually clock out, 00:38:37.780 --> 00:38:39.860 especially if you're the one in charge and you 00:38:39.860 --> 00:38:42.380 see things from a bigger perspective. Let's say 00:38:42.380 --> 00:38:45.539 you're the leader of an entire division or you're 00:38:45.539 --> 00:38:48.719 the entrepreneur. You need to be able to turn 00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:52.139 your brain off because. All of those trying to 00:38:52.139 --> 00:38:54.519 figure out the solutions, let your brain run 00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:58.019 wild while you sit in silence. If you need to 00:38:58.019 --> 00:39:01.039 vent to chat GPT to have it reflect back to you, 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.780 do that. If you need to journal it, write everything 00:39:03.780 --> 00:39:06.780 down, either handwriting it or typing it or just 00:39:06.780 --> 00:39:09.260 saying it out loud. It doesn't matter, but you 00:39:09.260 --> 00:39:12.159 do need to get it out of you. And then you have 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:14.780 to close everything and stop working because 00:39:14.780 --> 00:39:17.750 the insights will actually come. Right. That's 00:39:17.750 --> 00:39:19.710 where you get everything out. And then all of 00:39:19.710 --> 00:39:22.030 the problems that you need to solve, the information 00:39:22.030 --> 00:39:24.090 is going to slowly come in. So you need to implement 00:39:24.090 --> 00:39:27.570 those things daily. And then weekly there there 00:39:27.570 --> 00:39:31.469 has to be some kind of self -care regimen, whether 00:39:31.469 --> 00:39:36.050 you work out regularly or you. I don't work on 00:39:36.050 --> 00:39:38.429 the weekends and sometimes I'll make it a three 00:39:38.429 --> 00:39:40.969 day weekend because the week has been so hard. 00:39:41.579 --> 00:39:44.079 You know, even yes, bills need to get paid. I'm 00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:46.739 not saying that's not the case, but if I don't 00:39:46.739 --> 00:39:50.440 check out, I won't be good on Monday. You know, 00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:53.280 those types of exercises or practices, and then 00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:55.739 you have to keep it as disciplined as you can 00:39:55.739 --> 00:39:57.920 to make sure that it's consistent because you're 00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.739 training your nervous system. I'm going to throw 00:40:00.739 --> 00:40:02.659 another thing in there for that. So on the team 00:40:02.659 --> 00:40:06.679 member side, my friends, we do a meeting at two 00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:09.260 o 'clock on Fridays and we call it level up, 00:40:09.260 --> 00:40:12.230 calm down. And so it's still productive meeting, 00:40:12.349 --> 00:40:14.250 but we're not allowed to talk about anything 00:40:14.250 --> 00:40:16.449 stressful. We're not allowed to talk about anything 00:40:16.449 --> 00:40:19.369 related to fires in the company. We have all 00:40:19.369 --> 00:40:21.530 morning to knock those things out. And so the 00:40:21.530 --> 00:40:24.530 reason why we chose two o 'clock is we're still 00:40:24.530 --> 00:40:26.389 at the midpoint of the day, but now it's like 00:40:26.389 --> 00:40:28.809 a, it's a break room opportunity, but virtually, 00:40:28.929 --> 00:40:31.670 and it's an hour and a half long. And oftentimes 00:40:31.670 --> 00:40:34.320 we do show and tell. of like, what do we do this 00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:35.880 week? Or what are we grateful for? Who are we 00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:37.880 grateful for on the team? We might even bust 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:39.679 out karaoke once in a while. We've been in that 00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:42.599 a long time. We need to get back to it. But the 00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:44.960 thing about this meeting and what I've seen is 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.679 it gives all of us the chance to reset, get centered. 00:40:49.980 --> 00:40:54.019 I get to recognize who's antsy, who's anxious, 00:40:54.099 --> 00:40:55.780 who wants to talk about the fire and the stress. 00:40:56.360 --> 00:41:00.280 And so the team members who get rejuvenated by 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.489 that, I see them crush it through the end of 00:41:02.489 --> 00:41:05.170 their Friday. They always fly out and just go 00:41:05.170 --> 00:41:07.110 get things done. Nobody's dragging to the end 00:41:07.110 --> 00:41:10.650 of the weekend. And then I get to check in with 00:41:10.650 --> 00:41:12.570 all my team members going into the weekend and 00:41:12.570 --> 00:41:14.250 make sure that everybody's good. That's my number 00:41:14.250 --> 00:41:16.329 one responsibility on my Fridays. And it's always 00:41:16.329 --> 00:41:17.949 on my heart. It's like, okay, I got to get so 00:41:17.949 --> 00:41:20.769 -and -so. And by the time we're moving into Friday, 00:41:20.889 --> 00:41:23.929 if all my team members are good and they're calm. 00:41:24.329 --> 00:41:27.309 or they're happy, that's even better. Then I 00:41:27.309 --> 00:41:29.769 get to also be able to rest a little bit easier 00:41:29.769 --> 00:41:31.869 on the weekend. And guess what happens on Monday? 00:41:32.750 --> 00:41:35.710 Everybody comes back to work excited. Everybody 00:41:35.710 --> 00:41:38.389 comes back to work ready to go because we take 00:41:38.389 --> 00:41:40.829 that time every single week to make sure that, 00:41:40.849 --> 00:41:43.110 again, we're leveling up, but we're also calm 00:41:43.110 --> 00:41:45.730 and taking time to appreciate. And so it's a 00:41:45.730 --> 00:41:48.530 super hack for virtual companies that I don't 00:41:48.530 --> 00:41:51.800 hear about very many people doing. Well, I appreciate 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.199 that you do that and that you said it for, you 00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:57.099 know, the listeners to know, too. And I do a 00:41:57.099 --> 00:41:59.800 similar practice whenever we have our meetly 00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:03.960 roundup. The initial part of it is always the 00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:06.840 tasks and wait. How are you? And the reason for 00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.059 that is twofold. One, because of exactly what 00:42:09.059 --> 00:42:11.539 you just said, they decompressed and then they're 00:42:11.539 --> 00:42:13.940 more effective. But that's actually the way our 00:42:13.940 --> 00:42:16.300 brains work. If I'm thinking about all the fires 00:42:16.300 --> 00:42:18.800 and the to -dos and the tasks, then I'm actually 00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:21.780 in task mode. I'm not in connection mode. And 00:42:21.780 --> 00:42:24.639 you actually make more, you are more effective 00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:28.179 when you've had connection when you go into task 00:42:28.179 --> 00:42:30.960 mode because you're now aligned. Oh, it's huge. 00:42:31.369 --> 00:42:33.809 your brain waves are now in alignment because 00:42:33.809 --> 00:42:36.369 your nervous system has opened and decompressed. 00:42:36.630 --> 00:42:39.969 So even if we spend, it's an hour and a half 00:42:39.969 --> 00:42:42.949 meeting as well. And let's say we spend 30 minutes 00:42:42.949 --> 00:42:46.230 on connecting, seeing how the kids are, seeing 00:42:46.230 --> 00:42:48.570 what you're doing this weekend, you know, what 00:42:48.570 --> 00:42:50.869 happened last night, things like that, where 00:42:50.869 --> 00:42:56.619 I need to just see how my team is. then what's 00:42:56.619 --> 00:42:59.159 going to happen is we actually, we get through 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.340 things so much faster, so much easier. We're 00:43:01.340 --> 00:43:04.619 fluid and we're together. Huge. Oh, I love it. 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.619 Guys, these are multi -billion dollar secrets, 00:43:07.659 --> 00:43:09.360 by the way. They really are. Like if companies 00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:11.260 really large put these into practice, it would 00:43:11.260 --> 00:43:13.500 change everything for the better for them. And 00:43:13.500 --> 00:43:16.280 your NPS, your net promoter scores would go up. 00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:17.599 Everything would go up for your business. And 00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:21.360 so I highly recommend it. This is also helping 00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.199 me refine the process because there are certain 00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:26.219 disciplines that... I'm getting better at, but 00:43:26.219 --> 00:43:28.340 I still need to intentionally move more towards. 00:43:28.500 --> 00:43:30.800 And so one of them is like, I used to not think 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:32.320 about, I would just write in like, what do we 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:34.119 do? How are we doing? And I just get right down 00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:36.519 to the business rather than talking first about 00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:38.940 how we are. And then Monday mornings in the group 00:43:38.940 --> 00:43:41.139 environment, sometimes it's hard to know, like, 00:43:41.139 --> 00:43:43.239 how do we address? Because everybody has a different 00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:45.079 end. You know, somebody's relative could have 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.059 died. Somebody's dog could have died. There's 00:43:47.059 --> 00:43:49.099 many things that can happen. And so we don't 00:43:49.099 --> 00:43:51.340 always come in Monday mornings with our own emotions 00:43:51.340 --> 00:43:54.150 as the scope. of what needs to take place in 00:43:54.150 --> 00:43:57.510 the meeting. And so we do a, we do a, the old 00:43:57.510 --> 00:44:01.070 value thing of like, Hey, how's everybody doing 00:44:01.070 --> 00:44:03.710 today? I'm good or bad. You know, let's, let's 00:44:03.710 --> 00:44:09.550 see it. And I can do a better job of making sure 00:44:09.550 --> 00:44:12.809 to register and know who's where, but I think 00:44:12.809 --> 00:44:14.650 that my leadership will go to another level. 00:44:14.929 --> 00:44:18.349 If I, instead of trying to find out and take 00:44:18.349 --> 00:44:21.090 care right there in front of everybody, if instead 00:44:21.090 --> 00:44:24.690 of afterwards. I come to them and, you know, 00:44:24.690 --> 00:44:26.909 give them a personal call and say, hey, you good? 00:44:27.389 --> 00:44:29.869 You know, is everything okay? You know, and can 00:44:29.869 --> 00:44:32.630 I do anything for you? That would be probably 00:44:32.630 --> 00:44:35.690 my next step for our Monday morning meetings 00:44:35.690 --> 00:44:37.849 to improve that. So visionaries, if I can do 00:44:37.849 --> 00:44:41.489 an interview, I need to applicate at the same 00:44:41.489 --> 00:44:44.989 time. I'm so sorry. Say that one more time. You 00:44:44.989 --> 00:44:48.769 cut out? Yeah. Okay. I'm glad you let me know. 00:44:49.319 --> 00:44:51.659 Visionaries, if I can do an interview and simultaneously 00:44:51.659 --> 00:44:54.539 take notes about how I can improve, every single 00:44:54.539 --> 00:44:56.000 one of you listening in can do the same thing. 00:44:56.300 --> 00:44:58.260 You can apply so much from what we've talked 00:44:58.260 --> 00:44:59.800 about today to your life. And I hope that you 00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:02.960 apply the best of this to what you're going through, 00:45:03.059 --> 00:45:04.739 what you're learning. If you want to connect 00:45:04.739 --> 00:45:07.320 with either one of us, Dr. Jacqueline Campbell 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.280 or myself, we're both available. You can find 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:10.960 us on Facebook, LinkedIn, elsewhere, wherever 00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:13.760 we're at. Just Google or chat GPTN and you'll 00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.880 find us. Mentors love to help people. That's 00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:18.659 what we're here for. And if you see a greater 00:45:18.659 --> 00:45:20.380 opportunity to work with us at higher levels, 00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:23.079 by all means. Dive into your best opportunity. 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:25.679 Use a brand new blog as well to start learning. 00:45:25.980 --> 00:45:28.500 How do I delegate better? How do I make the right 00:45:28.500 --> 00:45:30.519 hiring decisions? Why should I not turn to a 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:34.079 coach for these decisions? Great article on that. 00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:36.599 And so you got to find the right coaches. I want 00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:38.679 to give an honor to Coach Fletcher Ellingson. 00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:41.340 He is one of my personal coaches. Phenomenal, 00:45:41.340 --> 00:45:44.639 phenomenal coach. And honor one more thing that 00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:47.119 Dr. Jacqueline Campbell said. On my calendar, 00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:52.900 I have a daily trauma work. that 8 .20 to 8 .49 00:45:52.900 --> 00:45:55.699 in the morning is my daily trauma work. And it 00:45:55.699 --> 00:45:58.519 is a combination of having coached with Fletcher. 00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:00.679 And of course, all the resources I've ever learned 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.139 about therapy combined with ChatGPT. Now I would 00:46:04.139 --> 00:46:07.400 use Claude instead, but basically pulling together 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:10.860 the exercises and exploring what do other of 00:46:10.860 --> 00:46:13.119 the best coaches in the world have and recommend 00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.840 for these scenarios. We can always refine our 00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:18.179 access to great leadership if we're willing to. 00:46:18.260 --> 00:46:21.429 That's my final tip for the day. Dr. Jacqueline, 00:46:21.489 --> 00:46:25.050 if this was your last chance to talk to visionary 00:46:25.050 --> 00:46:27.090 leaders, what would your counsel be for them? 00:46:28.530 --> 00:46:32.710 What I would say is something that we don't realize 00:46:32.710 --> 00:46:35.889 until we've already messed it up is the higher 00:46:35.889 --> 00:46:40.210 you are in the, let's say, hierarchy. I don't 00:46:40.210 --> 00:46:41.789 really want to use that word, but that's the 00:46:41.789 --> 00:46:45.449 way we see it, right? the less you're actually 00:46:45.449 --> 00:46:47.610 doing the tasks because what we were just talking 00:46:47.610 --> 00:46:50.670 about in meetings, we go from connection mode 00:46:50.670 --> 00:46:54.210 to task mode. And the higher you are, the more 00:46:54.210 --> 00:46:56.829 in connection mode you need to be because you 00:46:56.829 --> 00:47:00.269 eventually will get to not doing any tasks and 00:47:00.269 --> 00:47:02.889 just connecting and mentoring people to make 00:47:02.889 --> 00:47:07.599 sure that they can stay on task. That is a huge 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.800 mind changer because you're changing your identity 00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:15.000 too. You have to eventually let go the more you 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.960 move up of those tasks, which is actually letting 00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.320 go of control too. I travel internationally with 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.000 one book and it is The Effective Executive by 00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:27.760 Dr. Peter Drucker. And as much as I've studied 00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:30.719 and referenced that book, neither he nor anybody 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:34.179 else has ever opened my eyes to that concept 00:47:34.179 --> 00:47:36.420 the way that you just did. I thank you for that. 00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:38.679 And I know that again, other visionaries, if 00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:40.659 you're just catching in right now, I highly recommend 00:47:40.659 --> 00:47:42.219 going back and listening to this whole episode. 00:47:42.420 --> 00:47:44.400 We'll see you next episode of Vision Pros Live. 00:47:44.619 --> 00:47:46.480 Thank you for being here today. I'm really happy 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:48.719 that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking 00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:51.980 forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes 00:47:51.980 --> 00:47:53.780 continue to move forward. This is going to get 00:47:53.780 --> 00:47:56.420 more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement 00:47:56.420 --> 00:47:58.480 as well. We'll invite people to participate in 00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.659 the show. And thank you for giving us your time 00:48:00.659 --> 00:48:02.940 and attention. Have an excellent time building 00:48:02.940 --> 00:48:03.900 out your vision.