WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.500 What's up, everybody? Welcome into another episode 00:00:01.500 --> 00:00:02.980 of Vision Pros Live. Today, we're going to do 00:00:02.980 --> 00:00:05.500 a quick hit and at bat with Dr. Alan Mueller, 00:00:05.719 --> 00:00:08.119 who's an expert on leadership. He's been in the 00:00:08.119 --> 00:00:10.699 game for several decades, and anybody who's been 00:00:10.699 --> 00:00:12.539 in the game for several decades has wisdom, but 00:00:12.539 --> 00:00:14.759 especially a doctor who's placed his heart and 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:16.920 soul around the ideas of emotional intelligence, 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:19.839 compassion, empathy. Wasn't one of the words 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:21.600 he used, compassion wasn't, but I got to see 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:23.579 that firsthand as I got to know him right before 00:00:23.579 --> 00:00:26.179 the show. He had a great interview as well with 00:00:26.179 --> 00:00:30.239 Ryan Westfall of 537bd .com. Ryan and I are not 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:32.179 currently working together, but he is an operations 00:00:32.179 --> 00:00:34.460 guru that I do recommend checking out if you're 00:00:34.460 --> 00:00:38.420 in the need for infrastructure and growth. And 00:00:38.420 --> 00:00:44.240 he brings a unique level of knowledge. from his 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:46.820 experience helping multi -billion dollar companies 00:00:46.820 --> 00:00:50.140 with their operations. So definitely say hi to 00:00:50.140 --> 00:00:52.299 Ryan if you talk to him for me. Then there's 00:00:52.299 --> 00:00:54.240 these sponsors up here. These are other resources. 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:56.960 I just love connecting visionaries with potential 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:00.020 assets so that you guys can do the best that 00:01:00.020 --> 00:01:01.880 you can with your own visions. And so Journey 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:04.359 to Wellness up here, we're actually rebranding 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:06.500 Journey to Wellness right now to Dr. Shannon. 00:01:07.189 --> 00:01:10.469 Dr. Shannon and Dr. Justin Pierce help people 00:01:10.469 --> 00:01:12.329 with their wellness. And I've sent several friends 00:01:12.329 --> 00:01:14.790 and family members to them who had what were 00:01:14.790 --> 00:01:16.989 considered chronic illnesses that were almost 00:01:16.989 --> 00:01:19.329 uncurable. Things like Crohn's disease. Now, 00:01:19.409 --> 00:01:21.370 I'm not a doctor, but I know that everybody that 00:01:21.370 --> 00:01:24.049 I've sent to Shannon has raved about what they've 00:01:24.049 --> 00:01:25.489 learned and about how much she's been able to 00:01:25.489 --> 00:01:27.230 help them. And they've never been able to find 00:01:27.230 --> 00:01:29.209 help in other areas of the market. So definitely 00:01:29.209 --> 00:01:31.170 check that out if you've got health issues. She 00:01:31.170 --> 00:01:33.129 specifically specializes in helping women, by 00:01:33.129 --> 00:01:36.079 the way. Then there's Jennifer Reed. Practice 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:38.659 makes permanent. Jennifer Reed has worked at 00:01:38.659 --> 00:01:42.640 one of the most notorious companies in the world 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:44.700 for a very long time. And she's a leader and 00:01:44.700 --> 00:01:47.060 she helps with emotional intelligence and spiritual 00:01:47.060 --> 00:01:50.219 intelligence. And she specifically helps corporations 00:01:50.219 --> 00:01:55.379 through facilitating workshops for that cultural 00:01:55.379 --> 00:01:57.680 development. What is that notorious company? 00:01:58.239 --> 00:02:01.739 the iris um she's she's worked at the irs for 00:02:01.739 --> 00:02:03.500 a very long time and helped the executives there 00:02:03.500 --> 00:02:05.920 and so it's not her words she didn't say it i 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:08.560 said it by the way um but i think a lot of you 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:11.740 understand that wow like how much emotional intelligence 00:02:11.740 --> 00:02:14.819 would it take and how much care and leadership 00:02:14.819 --> 00:02:17.419 would it take to actually make a positive difference 00:02:17.419 --> 00:02:21.430 in that massive government environment and how 00:02:21.430 --> 00:02:23.210 much diplomacy skills would you have to have 00:02:23.210 --> 00:02:25.490 to be able to lead and guide executives there 00:02:25.490 --> 00:02:27.289 and so she's been actually a joy to work with 00:02:27.289 --> 00:02:28.870 i've worked with her now for about four months 00:02:28.870 --> 00:02:32.189 um and it has been awesome to see her unlock 00:02:32.189 --> 00:02:36.550 um how to help brands with practice um by leaning 00:02:36.550 --> 00:02:38.889 to practice and ultimately developing skills 00:02:38.889 --> 00:02:41.009 that will help them permanently improve their 00:02:41.009 --> 00:02:43.210 success another thing that's up here covered 00:02:43.210 --> 00:02:45.520 by the light a little bit the water project the 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:47.379 water project is something that we support um 00:02:47.379 --> 00:02:49.960 every month and uh that what they do is they 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:52.819 help remote villages in africa gain access to 00:02:52.819 --> 00:02:55.500 clean water and when i heard about that i didn't 00:02:55.500 --> 00:02:57.020 really relate i've never been thirsty in my life 00:02:57.020 --> 00:02:59.500 um and so when i started to look at the projects 00:02:59.500 --> 00:03:01.000 and see how they developed them and realized 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:03.060 like dang my kids don't have to deal with this 00:03:03.060 --> 00:03:05.069 i don't have to deal with this I realized how 00:03:05.069 --> 00:03:07.370 neat it was that they show you when you contribute. 00:03:07.610 --> 00:03:10.090 If you pay even $10 for a project, you actually 00:03:10.090 --> 00:03:12.629 get told when the project gets completed and 00:03:12.629 --> 00:03:15.069 you get to see the proof of it through the pictures 00:03:15.069 --> 00:03:16.870 that they take and you get to learn more about 00:03:16.870 --> 00:03:18.150 the community. It's a really neat opportunity. 00:03:18.449 --> 00:03:20.469 So if you're inspired to help out with that, 00:03:20.509 --> 00:03:22.949 please do. And if you've got something else in 00:03:22.949 --> 00:03:24.330 your heart and mind that you need help with, 00:03:24.370 --> 00:03:26.110 if you've got a crowdfunding project for a friend 00:03:26.110 --> 00:03:27.530 or if there's some other cause out there that 00:03:27.530 --> 00:03:29.370 you want to mention, just drop it in the comments 00:03:29.370 --> 00:03:30.810 and give me a chance because I would love to 00:03:30.810 --> 00:03:32.590 see it. I will personally take a look and see 00:03:32.590 --> 00:03:34.830 what the cause is. I might even bring it up on 00:03:34.830 --> 00:03:36.770 the show if it inspires me. So without further 00:03:36.770 --> 00:03:38.990 ado, let's bring Dr. Alan Mueller back on. Dr. 00:03:39.150 --> 00:03:40.849 Alan, thank you for being here. And I know you 00:03:40.849 --> 00:03:42.610 said only with the robe, could I call you that? 00:03:42.669 --> 00:03:44.849 But it just comes out naturally. So Alan, it's 00:03:44.849 --> 00:03:46.590 great to have you on the show. It's all good. 00:03:46.689 --> 00:03:48.590 And I love that you mentioned Tim Duncan because 00:03:48.590 --> 00:03:51.009 he actually went to college about 20 minutes 00:03:51.009 --> 00:03:55.830 from me. Wake Forest. And I was a band nerd in 00:03:55.830 --> 00:03:58.189 high school. And I got to play in the Wake Forest 00:03:58.189 --> 00:04:01.110 pep band when Tim Duncan was playing in college. 00:04:01.150 --> 00:04:04.310 And so got to see him live at Lawrence Joel Coliseum, 00:04:04.310 --> 00:04:06.889 do his thing. And you're right. Fundamentals, 00:04:06.889 --> 00:04:09.610 right? And it's, I love, and I'm going to be 00:04:09.610 --> 00:04:12.050 very nonpartisan here. I love Mike Krzyzewski 00:04:12.050 --> 00:04:15.250 and Roy Williams. This is Duke and UNC's head 00:04:15.250 --> 00:04:17.769 coaches. And if you're not from the East Coast 00:04:17.769 --> 00:04:19.350 and you don't know how serious the rivalry is. 00:04:20.300 --> 00:04:24.259 Just imagine. I'm not going to tell you who I 00:04:24.259 --> 00:04:28.319 pull for. But just imagine Yankees, Red Sox or 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:30.839 Michigan, Ohio State or, you know, big, big, 00:04:30.860 --> 00:04:33.220 serious rivalry that tears families apart. Right. 00:04:33.300 --> 00:04:37.079 But both of those coaches understand that teaching 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:39.439 the fundamentals is critical. And something else 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:43.319 they understand is that no one loss. is the end 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:44.959 of the world. Losing a game is not the end of 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:46.819 the world. It's a learning opportunity. And so 00:04:46.819 --> 00:04:49.660 that's what I love about those coaches like Roy 00:04:49.660 --> 00:04:52.959 Williams, like Mike Krzyzewski, who they understand 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:55.279 that we're all going to mess up. We're all going 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:56.839 to mess up. So let's normalize that. Instead 00:04:56.839 --> 00:04:59.920 of shaming it, blaming it, doing a little happy 00:04:59.920 --> 00:05:02.699 dance when someone at work messes up. What if 00:05:02.699 --> 00:05:04.959 we turned it into every time it's a learning 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:07.759 opportunity? And so the best organizations that 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:10.079 I work with understand at the fundamental level 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:13.079 that mistakes are going to happen. And outside 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:16.540 of the life -threatening ones, outside of those, 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:19.420 mistakes should be embraced as part of learning 00:05:19.420 --> 00:05:22.139 and growing and getting better. Huge. Huge. I 00:05:22.139 --> 00:05:25.319 love that you mentioned it. And that will actually 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:28.720 lean into my tip. And so I'll lead the way on 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:29.839 this, give you a little bit of time to think 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:31.660 through what's your advanced tip that's there. 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:35.060 And the neat thing is this advanced tip can be 00:05:35.060 --> 00:05:39.480 used by all of you newbies as well. When it comes 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:41.639 to the world of sports. The world of sports is 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:44.220 one of the best business organizations or industries 00:05:44.220 --> 00:05:47.000 in the world. And you have so much transparent 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:49.259 access. I can see win records. I can see loss 00:05:49.259 --> 00:05:51.139 records. I can see contracts that were canceled. 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:53.180 I get to hear about the gossip. You can't see 00:05:53.180 --> 00:05:56.160 everything. I would love to see, I would love 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:59.319 to be in a film session of an NBA team. That 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:00.920 would be like the coolest thing ever to see the 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.160 conflict and see how much, how passionate they 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:06.660 are. But you mentioned coach Mike K and I remember 00:06:06.660 --> 00:06:10.279 seeing him in the Netflix documentary on. the 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:13.319 redeemed team and him working with LeBron James 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:15.759 and Carmelo and the rest of the athletes who 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:18.220 were part of that process and the team that did 00:06:18.220 --> 00:06:21.160 not win gold and all the things you go in there. 00:06:21.220 --> 00:06:24.639 And then JJ Redick, I absolutely love him as 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:27.019 a coach. And what he's up to. And he went to 00:06:27.019 --> 00:06:30.279 Duke. I'm a North Carolina fan through and through. 00:06:30.740 --> 00:06:32.959 So that was a pill to swallow. But then he came 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:35.300 out with the Mind the Game podcast with LeBron 00:06:35.300 --> 00:06:37.100 James. They started to reveal all sorts of cool 00:06:37.100 --> 00:06:39.300 secrets and stuff. But all of you leaders out 00:06:39.300 --> 00:06:43.259 there, just as Alan talked about, we can gleam 00:06:43.259 --> 00:06:46.279 so much by watching those organizations. Seeing 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:47.920 how they interact with their teams, seeing how 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:49.699 their team members interact with them. Again, 00:06:49.779 --> 00:06:51.800 looking at contracts, there's so many elements 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:54.220 you can learn from. And, you know, I think the 00:06:54.220 --> 00:06:56.620 best leadership comes from just continuing to 00:06:56.620 --> 00:06:59.279 do our best to learn what else can I do to up 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:01.720 my game and to be of better service to those 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:04.160 that I love and those that I serve. So, Alan, 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:06.699 how about you? How about on your side? To me, 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:08.939 the number one thing for advanced leaders is 00:07:08.939 --> 00:07:12.490 curiosity. And this can fare you well, even if 00:07:12.490 --> 00:07:15.050 you're a newer leader. But we're in the information 00:07:15.050 --> 00:07:17.589 age, and we're also in the misinformation age, 00:07:17.610 --> 00:07:20.269 all at the same time. And that's tricky, right? 00:07:20.389 --> 00:07:23.170 I think that several years from now, and I hope 00:07:23.170 --> 00:07:26.170 it's soon, we will be in what I'm calling the 00:07:26.170 --> 00:07:28.509 discernment age. And the discernment age isn't 00:07:28.509 --> 00:07:30.990 necessarily what's factual or not, but what's 00:07:30.990 --> 00:07:34.240 the most important fact. And curiosity, as someone 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.000 who grew up Gen X, I'm going to tell you that 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:37.720 there were times I'd be sitting at a restaurant 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:39.620 with people and we'd be arguing about who an 00:07:39.620 --> 00:07:41.660 actress was in a movie or an actor was in a movie. 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:45.180 And there was no way for us to check it. In other 00:07:45.180 --> 00:07:48.220 words, all of us know the Internet now and I 00:07:48.220 --> 00:07:50.300 can pull up the Internet and I can tell you if 00:07:50.300 --> 00:07:52.339 Kevin Bacon was or was not in that movie. Right. 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:56.279 But in the in the 70s, 80s, 90s, as I was coming 00:07:56.279 --> 00:08:01.079 up, we had I think curiosity was more alive because 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:03.939 you didn't have. The answer is in your pocket 00:08:03.939 --> 00:08:06.620 in the form of a smartphone. And so I think that 00:08:06.620 --> 00:08:09.920 as more quote unquote information is more available 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.680 to us, I think it's hurt our ability to be curious. 00:08:13.740 --> 00:08:15.639 And when I say curious, I mean curious about 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:17.680 your own culture, curious about others' cultures, 00:08:17.860 --> 00:08:21.199 curious about processes and how things work. 00:08:21.339 --> 00:08:23.279 There's a company called Gore -Tex that I think 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.600 made refined plastics. And in their business 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:28.420 model. They cross -trained as many people as 00:08:28.420 --> 00:08:31.240 they could. So they had people who were in HR 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:33.779 getting on the factory floor and people who were 00:08:33.779 --> 00:08:36.279 in research and development getting into other 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:38.120 aspects. They called it the Gore -Tex model. 00:08:38.379 --> 00:08:41.080 And so it was this idea that we should foster 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:45.720 curiosity between departments because that helps 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:47.779 us. So many organizations I work with, they're 00:08:47.779 --> 00:08:50.580 departmental rivalries. One department doesn't 00:08:50.580 --> 00:08:52.700 like this department or that one's more well 00:08:52.700 --> 00:08:55.299 -funded or whatever. And trust me when I say, 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:57.899 if you can do the experiment of sort of moonlighting 00:08:57.899 --> 00:08:59.820 in a second department and learning some of what 00:08:59.820 --> 00:09:02.639 they go through and get curious about that part 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:04.539 of the operation, it does so much for your leadership 00:09:04.539 --> 00:09:07.000 culture. It really does. Yeah. It's huge. I love 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:08.559 that you mentioned it. I'll give a shout out 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:11.259 to coach Fletcher Ellingson as well, who's been 00:09:11.259 --> 00:09:13.700 a co -host of the show and is also my personal 00:09:13.700 --> 00:09:17.059 coach. He is huge on curiosity and creativity. 00:09:17.700 --> 00:09:21.159 And so his, the formula that he taught me about 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:22.960 that was when, you know, before getting upset. 00:09:23.340 --> 00:09:26.899 Before reacting to things, follow this thing 00:09:26.899 --> 00:09:31.740 called POC. That's to pause, be present, get 00:09:31.740 --> 00:09:35.820 open, get curious, and be confident that all 00:09:35.820 --> 00:09:40.919 things will work out. Curiosity is so critical 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:45.200 to that component. If I get open and I still 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:47.539 feel angry or upset or frustrated about something, 00:09:47.659 --> 00:09:50.820 I'm not allowing myself to get curious. If I 00:09:50.820 --> 00:09:53.610 get curious, I can find out. what was their real 00:09:53.610 --> 00:09:55.470 intention? Um, and what were they really trying 00:09:55.470 --> 00:09:57.389 to accomplish? Well, what is the, what is the 00:09:57.389 --> 00:09:59.289 positive that comes out of this challenge? There's 00:09:59.289 --> 00:10:01.389 so many great opportunities there. So Alan, I 00:10:01.389 --> 00:10:03.889 absolutely love what you just put down vision 00:10:03.889 --> 00:10:05.710 pros. Those of you listening in, there were so 00:10:05.710 --> 00:10:08.649 many golden nuggets spread up in this. Um, and 00:10:08.649 --> 00:10:10.090 we've got, we're going to keep it to a shorter 00:10:10.090 --> 00:10:12.090 episode today, but I want to double down one 00:10:12.090 --> 00:10:14.250 more time on what Dr. Allen's theory is. I hadn't, 00:10:14.250 --> 00:10:16.090 I hadn't coined this or put this on. I'm glad 00:10:16.090 --> 00:10:18.610 you coined it because you deserve it. And you've 00:10:18.610 --> 00:10:22.600 now unlocked my mind to it. Yes, there is a filtration 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:25.220 that's taking place, kind of. There's a transition 00:10:25.220 --> 00:10:31.200 that I think we're on the cusp of, and that is 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:34.320 that transition from information age to discernment 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:36.740 age. And what a positive way to look at what's 00:10:36.740 --> 00:10:40.759 taking place right now. I think that AI, at least 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:44.320 in my experience, has restored a ton of my curiosity. 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:48.519 And part of it is the development of the answers 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:52.639 that it gives. it's so easy to think outside 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:55.500 the box now and to think in new ways. And so 00:10:55.500 --> 00:10:57.539 I see what you're getting at there. I'm going 00:10:57.539 --> 00:10:59.100 to leave some intrigue on that. If those of you 00:10:59.100 --> 00:11:00.740 are interested in finding out more about what 00:11:00.740 --> 00:11:02.940 Alan has to say about this, like me, then reach 00:11:02.940 --> 00:11:05.799 out to him. Like I'm going to find out we can't, 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:08.120 we can't dissect all of the value that comes 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:11.019 from any author, any leader in one session. And 00:11:11.019 --> 00:11:14.580 so the key for all of us is how do we build profound 00:11:14.580 --> 00:11:17.679 and transformational relationships with great 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:20.480 leaders like Dr. Mueller? So thank you for being 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:22.980 here. I'd love to ask you one last fortune cookie. 00:11:23.139 --> 00:11:25.399 If this is your last opportunity to speak to 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:28.139 our audience, Dr. Mueller, what message would 00:11:28.139 --> 00:11:29.840 you have for the visionaries out there that are 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.019 working on pulling their visions together? I 00:11:32.019 --> 00:11:33.480 would say, number one, be patient with yourself 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:35.720 and give yourself grace. If you're listening 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.110 to this right now, we've all... survived 2020. 00:11:39.730 --> 00:11:42.370 And so if nothing else, that reminded me that 00:11:42.370 --> 00:11:45.250 everybody that you work with, everybody that's 00:11:45.250 --> 00:11:47.549 a potential client, a current client, everybody 00:11:47.549 --> 00:11:49.590 that works in your organization, they're traversing 00:11:49.590 --> 00:11:51.990 things and give grace, friends, give grace and 00:11:51.990 --> 00:11:54.470 be patient, be patient with others and yourself. 00:11:55.730 --> 00:11:59.090 I love it. We hope you subscribe. We hope you 00:11:59.090 --> 00:12:01.450 give us grace as we continue to learn. Vision 00:12:01.450 --> 00:12:03.149 pros have an awesome time building your vision, 00:12:03.210 --> 00:12:04.509 make it a great year. And we'll see you in the 00:12:04.509 --> 00:12:06.230 next episode. Take care, everybody. Thank you, 00:12:06.250 --> 00:12:08.769 Alan. Thank you for being here today. I'm really 00:12:08.769 --> 00:12:10.750 happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. 00:12:10.950 --> 00:12:13.350 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions 00:12:13.350 --> 00:12:15.970 as these episodes continue to move forward. This 00:12:15.970 --> 00:12:17.889 is going to get more and more fun. We'll have 00:12:17.889 --> 00:12:19.710 more and more engagement as well. We'll invite 00:12:19.710 --> 00:12:22.330 people to participate in the show and thank you 00:12:22.330 --> 00:12:24.210 for giving us your time and attention. Have an 00:12:24.210 --> 00:12:26.990 excellent time building out your vision and becoming 00:12:26.990 --> 00:12:27.809 a vision pro yourself.