WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.760 That's what I get for being in a flow state. 00:00:01.980 --> 00:00:05.740 Marcus, how are you? What's going on, man? Good 00:00:05.740 --> 00:00:08.179 to see you. I thought we had a Zoom call, and 00:00:08.179 --> 00:00:10.240 then I was like, oh, man, we're supposed to be 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:12.580 in the studio. That's all good, bro. Don't even 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:15.679 worry about it. We're all good. Good to see you. 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:18.379 Not at all. I'm excited, man. You got a lot of 00:00:18.379 --> 00:00:22.940 great stuff going on. So, say that again? I appreciate 00:00:22.940 --> 00:00:27.879 you, man. Yes, sir. Of course. Well, I... I'm 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:30.879 up to using this opportunity as a pre -show where 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:33.299 we can get to know more about what is you doing, 00:00:33.460 --> 00:00:36.060 answer questions about the audience and all that, 00:00:36.100 --> 00:00:38.579 or we can dive right in and just start talking 00:00:38.579 --> 00:00:40.340 about your vision. What do you want to do today? 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:44.000 I'll let you take it, man. You know how it works. 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:46.600 However you want to roll, man, I'm good with 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:49.439 whatever. Good for you, man. Well, you've got 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:53.740 a 0 .5 % podcast, so you know the drill. You 00:00:53.740 --> 00:00:56.579 know a lot about how to win and what's there. 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:01.159 We are only a top 5 % global show, but I did 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:03.179 used to be behind the scenes with Entrepreneur 00:01:03.179 --> 00:01:06.280 on Fire, Lewis Howe School of Greatness, Michael 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:09.319 Hyatt, T. Harv Eker, Dan Martell, even Pagan. 00:01:10.060 --> 00:01:13.620 I got to be a silent integrator on those little 00:01:13.620 --> 00:01:18.620 armies, and they do things differently. They 00:01:18.620 --> 00:01:23.010 know a few things as well. Hey, man, I love that. 00:01:23.069 --> 00:01:25.290 Yeah, I know Dan Martell. I know Lewis. You know, 00:01:25.390 --> 00:01:27.290 so you've got you've got some great stuff, man. 00:01:27.370 --> 00:01:29.829 So I'm looking forward to the interview. Cool, 00:01:29.909 --> 00:01:33.569 man. Awesome. Then, you know, the things that 00:01:33.569 --> 00:01:38.090 I am going to ask in ignorance, you know, are 00:01:38.090 --> 00:01:41.969 Marcus like. So you guys, again, you know how 00:01:41.969 --> 00:01:45.790 to crack the code of distribution with the download 00:01:45.790 --> 00:01:47.569 rates you've gotten to get to the point five 00:01:47.569 --> 00:01:52.159 percent. But is there. Are there any secret elements 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:55.599 of distribution that you can share? They're like, 00:01:55.659 --> 00:01:57.599 Jackson, this would help make sure to take this 00:01:57.599 --> 00:01:59.099 to the next level. Because at the end of the 00:01:59.099 --> 00:02:01.019 day, Marcus, we got 8 billion people to help 00:02:01.019 --> 00:02:03.040 on this planet. I want to make sure we reach 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:05.760 as many of them as possible. But I also want 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:08.020 to make sure we reach them as intentionally as 00:02:08.020 --> 00:02:12.439 possible. Any ideas? Yeah, I mean, for me, man, 00:02:12.500 --> 00:02:14.560 I mean, again, I'm the kind of guy where, you 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:16.719 know, assets, I tell you what really helped us 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:19.939 is, you know, giving our guests assets to repost 00:02:19.939 --> 00:02:22.659 and share and post out has been huge. I'm sure 00:02:22.659 --> 00:02:25.199 you already know that, but we do that a lot in 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:28.360 our show and it does very well, especially now 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:31.060 as we're growing our YouTube channel. The audio 00:02:31.060 --> 00:02:33.159 has always been there, but it helps even more. 00:02:33.219 --> 00:02:34.840 But when you kind of do it like with the assets 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:37.460 and kind of give those over, that's been a huge, 00:02:37.500 --> 00:02:40.500 a huge help for our podcast and other spots. 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:42.319 podcast are doing the exact same thing because 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:44.680 what we do is we take those assets i put them 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:47.120 in my social media calendar that we post them 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:49.240 out to help you know spread the word about what 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:52.520 we're doing but also bring uh your show to our 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:55.219 audience's attention not just from being on your 00:02:55.219 --> 00:02:57.939 show but also our social media audience as well 00:02:57.939 --> 00:03:02.939 dude that's phenomenal now look i i may have 00:03:02.939 --> 00:03:05.060 heard it or i may have seen it but it's another 00:03:05.060 --> 00:03:07.620 to have it validated oh right in the process 00:03:07.620 --> 00:03:10.360 it's it's big man i mean my team does that we 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:12.939 try to get people's assets out uh you know to 00:03:12.939 --> 00:03:14.900 the uh the day it comes out plus they have you 00:03:14.900 --> 00:03:18.180 know youtube can we do uh twice um twice a week 00:03:18.180 --> 00:03:20.400 youtube long form content and we give our guests 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:23.439 their assets to post on short form uh videos 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:26.479 mp4s and like you know google drop uh google 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:29.280 files and folders and it's been working like 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:33.219 magic dude that's amazing Vision Pros, I'm going 00:03:33.219 --> 00:03:35.219 to do my best to convince Marcus to let me release 00:03:35.219 --> 00:03:37.080 this as a behind the scenes episode. We're going 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:39.219 to crush this. All right. Welcome in to Vision 00:03:39.219 --> 00:03:42.199 Pros Live with Jackson Callum. I'm your show 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:44.379 host. We'll be doing interviews for visionary 00:03:44.379 --> 00:03:47.180 entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building 00:03:47.180 --> 00:03:58.259 fantastic visions out there. Guys, we have an 00:03:58.259 --> 00:04:00.780 amazing treat today. I got Marcus Ogden in the 00:04:00.780 --> 00:04:03.900 house. He's a former NFL player with the Jaguars 00:04:03.900 --> 00:04:06.620 and beyond. My friends, if you don't understand 00:04:06.620 --> 00:04:09.129 it. People who make it to the NFL level and the 00:04:09.129 --> 00:04:11.189 NBA level, they just live life differently. They 00:04:11.189 --> 00:04:13.110 understand discipline. They understand consistency. 00:04:13.270 --> 00:04:14.870 They understand reliability. They understand 00:04:14.870 --> 00:04:16.649 how to build well. They know how to talk about 00:04:16.649 --> 00:04:18.670 visions. They get a lot of special training that 00:04:18.670 --> 00:04:21.069 most people don't get access to. So we got Marcus 00:04:21.069 --> 00:04:24.050 here and we're having a raw conversation. The 00:04:24.050 --> 00:04:26.689 first time I met Marcus was in Dr. Lance Knob's 00:04:26.689 --> 00:04:30.019 hot seat. Mastermind via Clubhouse. There's a 00:04:30.019 --> 00:04:31.720 bunch of great minds in there. Here comes Marcus. 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:36.120 He's got a 0 .5 % category podcast, and he's 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:39.079 just crushing it. He is taking all those skills 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:40.759 that he learned and disciplines throughout his 00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:43.100 NFL career. He's applied them to business. He's 00:04:43.100 --> 00:04:45.339 attracting great minds, and this is a huge treat 00:04:45.339 --> 00:04:47.079 for us to be behind the scenes. We just explored 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:49.339 one aspect of it. Again, I'm kind of surprising 00:04:49.339 --> 00:04:51.300 him by diving right into the interview and saying, 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:53.740 man, let's just crush this, but he's that type 00:04:53.740 --> 00:04:55.480 of leader who's like, Jackson, let's do it. Let's 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:58.639 make it happen. Marcus Ogden, man. Welcome to 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:00.660 Vision Pros Live. Tell me all about your vision. 00:05:01.019 --> 00:05:04.399 So our vision, our competition, right, Jackson, 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:08.500 is to take our brand to the next level by helping 00:05:08.500 --> 00:05:11.279 as many people as possible. And what we're doing 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:13.680 right now is me and one of my business partners, 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:17.339 we're creating an app, like a really interactive... 00:05:17.899 --> 00:05:21.319 coaching very specific accountability vision 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:25.639 structure blueprint app where it allows people 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.060 in the fields be able to have like that mindset 00:05:28.060 --> 00:05:31.600 enhancement energy enhancement sales enhancement 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:34.500 along with having the two to connect with the 00:05:34.500 --> 00:05:37.459 home office their leaders who they have to report 00:05:37.459 --> 00:05:40.339 to and actually i was talking to my partner today 00:05:40.339 --> 00:05:44.899 and we're so excited we have two no three big 00:05:44.899 --> 00:05:47.379 corporations right now right jackson that are 00:05:47.379 --> 00:05:50.079 interested in doing a licensing deal with us 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:52.600 with our app because they could use that type 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:56.899 of like personal very hands -on interactive service 00:05:56.899 --> 00:05:59.240 and they're super excited about our app we could 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.360 bring to the table as far as you know accountability 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:05.019 structure you know increasing sales increasing 00:06:05.019 --> 00:06:07.920 consistency so we're very excited that's our 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:11.779 big vision for 2026 and beyond the app that my 00:06:11.779 --> 00:06:13.560 partner nathan and i are putting together at 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.850 this time Now that's huge. Does this app have 00:06:16.850 --> 00:06:19.600 a name and a release date already? so it's called 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:21.540 paul the same of our company but we're going 00:06:21.540 --> 00:06:23.139 to have to come up with the name for the app 00:06:23.139 --> 00:06:26.920 right now it'll be out in about 90 to 120 days 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:29.279 so in the process right now building it and the 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:31.300 great thing is right jackson my partner nathan 00:06:31.300 --> 00:06:35.040 is a master coder and so we can create everything 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:39.939 in house with him which brings our cost way down 00:06:39.939 --> 00:06:41.620 because it's going to cost a couple hundred bucks 00:06:41.620 --> 00:06:44.839 so it costs like 20 to 25 grand because that's 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:47.800 going to be how high tech and very accessible 00:06:48.269 --> 00:06:51.670 the app is going to be. Oh, absolutely. And right 00:06:51.670 --> 00:06:54.509 now, my friends, visionaries out there, don't 00:06:54.509 --> 00:06:57.230 get me wrong. We need great coders on our teams 00:06:57.230 --> 00:06:58.709 as well. If we're going to create something that 00:06:58.709 --> 00:07:00.829 scales and has the infrastructure and has the 00:07:00.829 --> 00:07:04.110 security, but you can use AI as well to your 00:07:04.110 --> 00:07:06.970 advantage to start to build betas and prototypes 00:07:06.970 --> 00:07:09.610 and start to move mountains with it. It is amazing. 00:07:09.689 --> 00:07:12.610 What I'll say, Claude AI got to get Claude AI 00:07:12.610 --> 00:07:14.910 for this. I also recommend checking out what 00:07:14.910 --> 00:07:16.589 perplexity is built with the computer model. 00:07:16.730 --> 00:07:18.949 There's so many pieces that are available that 00:07:18.949 --> 00:07:21.430 before we, you know, we had an app idea. We had 00:07:21.430 --> 00:07:24.170 to draw it out on a napkin. And then we had to 00:07:24.170 --> 00:07:26.470 think through like how much money we had to pay 00:07:26.470 --> 00:07:28.970 to build the prototype. But not anymore, my friends. 00:07:29.050 --> 00:07:30.569 You have the opportunity to build faster. So 00:07:30.569 --> 00:07:32.829 I'm glad, Marcus, that you know you've got a 00:07:32.829 --> 00:07:35.790 90 to 120 day window. All of us listening to 00:07:35.790 --> 00:07:37.970 this, we can go look at 90, 120 days and see 00:07:37.970 --> 00:07:40.310 where is the launch at. And one thing that really 00:07:40.310 --> 00:07:42.209 helps me see, too, is that you understand the 00:07:42.209 --> 00:07:44.310 value of a soft launch. You're not trying to 00:07:44.310 --> 00:07:46.709 just pin down this date. It's like, OK, I already 00:07:46.709 --> 00:07:48.970 know that on August 16th, we're going to launch. 00:07:49.269 --> 00:07:51.709 Mike, you've given us a window. You have the 00:07:51.709 --> 00:07:53.470 flexibility to work on the quality assurance 00:07:53.470 --> 00:07:55.970 process throughout that. Marcus, you've got a 00:07:55.970 --> 00:07:58.509 couple of brands. You've got MarcusHogden .com. 00:07:58.689 --> 00:08:02.189 You've got Marcus360 .com. You've got this other 00:08:02.189 --> 00:08:03.889 brand that you mentioned. You've got the app 00:08:03.889 --> 00:08:07.329 coming out, which might be Android. Apple compatible. 00:08:07.529 --> 00:08:10.910 We'll see. Oh, for sure. Oh, for sure. I love 00:08:10.910 --> 00:08:13.529 how you said, right, Jackson, AI. There is a 00:08:13.529 --> 00:08:16.730 nice AI component in that. So you're already 00:08:16.730 --> 00:08:18.829 thinking top level, my friend, because again, 00:08:18.889 --> 00:08:21.490 you can't really, well, you can, but so much 00:08:21.490 --> 00:08:24.889 harder to scale without AI and automation and 00:08:24.889 --> 00:08:27.290 bringing all that in. So the fact you said that, 00:08:27.310 --> 00:08:29.310 that's the type of visionary you are. So that's 00:08:29.310 --> 00:08:32.429 good stuff. Brother, I can't wait to see you 00:08:32.429 --> 00:08:35.759 inspire the world of athletes because. I've talked 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:39.779 to several athletes, not many, but several. And 00:08:39.779 --> 00:08:41.919 the ones that I talked to, so many of them had 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:45.279 this mindset that they're just a dumb jock. And 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:47.320 these are guys who, to me, their IQ is through 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:49.899 the freaking roof and their ability to apply 00:08:49.899 --> 00:08:52.559 what they learned in the game, in their sport, 00:08:52.700 --> 00:08:55.059 whether it was basketball or football. I'm looking 00:08:55.059 --> 00:08:57.100 at them and trying to help them see like, my 00:08:57.100 --> 00:09:00.159 friend, when working in business and one of the 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:02.620 greatest organizations of all time. as far as 00:09:02.620 --> 00:09:04.960 generating money and understanding growth and 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:07.100 scale and partnerships. I'm like, you have it 00:09:07.100 --> 00:09:10.799 all. And if they would just learn to realize 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:13.000 like, wait a second, I've been a business owner 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:15.200 just in a different uniform for several years. 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:18.240 They would be able to unlock superpowers that 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.399 could help them make such a difference in the 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:22.360 world. So you mind speaking to that for a minute? 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:25.179 Do you ever see athletes that kind of hold themselves 00:09:25.179 --> 00:09:27.539 back and feel like they're not capable of doing 00:09:27.539 --> 00:09:29.200 the types of things that you're up to? Is that 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:30.980 something that's common or did I just run into 00:09:30.980 --> 00:09:34.460 the few that? that are maybe struggling to believe 00:09:34.460 --> 00:09:36.200 in their ability to translate their skills from 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:38.559 the field to the business room? What are your 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:40.539 thoughts on that? Jackson, that's a great question. 00:09:40.700 --> 00:09:43.700 So it really depends on my friend where they 00:09:43.700 --> 00:09:47.559 are in the transition process. Most times, if 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:50.399 guys are a couple years out of the NFL, that's 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:54.019 very common to feel that way. And then, unfortunately, 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:55.820 if you've been out for a little while but you 00:09:55.820 --> 00:09:57.779 haven't found your groove yet or you haven't 00:09:57.779 --> 00:10:00.360 found that next phase of life, then, yes, you 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:02.980 do feel that all you are is a dumb jock or a 00:10:02.980 --> 00:10:05.460 dumb football player because, again, you unfortunately 00:10:05.460 --> 00:10:08.240 have not found your gift or your passion outside 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:11.559 of football or the sport. But again, what has 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:14.460 to happen is these athletes, like anybody else, 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:17.580 you have to win the battle against your own mind, 00:10:17.779 --> 00:10:20.059 right? You have to. I have a shirt on that says 00:10:20.059 --> 00:10:23.220 built. different right and i understand to get 00:10:23.220 --> 00:10:25.980 to this level we're at business -wise so with 00:10:25.980 --> 00:10:29.460 my partner right jackson he's using ai to kind 00:10:29.460 --> 00:10:32.879 of like transcribe all of my past videos all 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:35.840 of my past stuff and he's taking about a 200 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:39.659 000 word dossier and he said marcus we're building 00:10:39.659 --> 00:10:42.179 something special like eight different courses 00:10:42.179 --> 00:10:44.179 and automation and we have to do a little bit 00:10:44.179 --> 00:10:46.620 more work with video and stuff like that and 00:10:46.620 --> 00:10:48.860 the funny thing is right jackson this has been 00:10:48.860 --> 00:10:50.980 not just a couple of weeks couple of this has 00:10:50.980 --> 00:10:53.659 been years like i've been speaking for 12 and 00:10:53.659 --> 00:10:55.759 a half years this has been 12 and a half years 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:59.039 of work 12 and a half years of sacrifice and 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:02.279 getting out there and failing and not doing well 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:04.820 and ups and downs and the content being out there 00:11:04.820 --> 00:11:07.700 but this is why ladies and gentlemen i really 00:11:07.700 --> 00:11:10.360 hope as part of your vision if you're trying 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:13.470 to build something special having content and 00:11:13.470 --> 00:11:17.169 access to your own content is huge because again 00:11:17.169 --> 00:11:20.970 as my partner nathan said he cannot take a business 00:11:20.970 --> 00:11:24.590 that's new and scale it because he said you can't 00:11:24.590 --> 00:11:27.450 scale something unless you have an audience so 00:11:27.450 --> 00:11:30.409 again we've had our podcast get authentic i have 00:11:30.409 --> 00:11:32.389 the jaguar squash i'm talking about everything 00:11:32.389 --> 00:11:36.860 uh jaguars related I'm on News Nation every Friday 00:11:36.860 --> 00:11:40.519 from 930 to 940 to 950 with Marnie Hughes talking 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:43.320 sports through the NFL season. We've been doing 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.500 this for a while, building up our... audience 00:11:46.500 --> 00:11:50.500 and so again where i'm at in my business i know 00:11:50.500 --> 00:11:53.360 that this is supposed to i am doing what i'm 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:56.360 supposed to be doing with my life and when you 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:58.779 get to that point it's a feeling of greatness 00:11:58.779 --> 00:12:02.480 but again unfortunately some athletes if they're 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:05.059 out if they're newly out of the nfl i don't speak 00:12:05.059 --> 00:12:07.059 from football perspective or if they've been 00:12:07.059 --> 00:12:08.860 out for a little while and haven't found their 00:12:08.860 --> 00:12:11.600 groove or haven't found their next real passion 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:14.460 they can get a sense of feeling like they're 00:12:14.460 --> 00:12:17.429 not built for anything other than football which 00:12:17.429 --> 00:12:20.690 is totally untrue Absolutely. And for those of 00:12:20.690 --> 00:12:22.649 you who aren't in sports, this relates to anybody 00:12:22.649 --> 00:12:24.990 who's been out of a job for a while too and job 00:12:24.990 --> 00:12:26.750 hunting. And when you've been in that, say like 00:12:26.750 --> 00:12:29.230 the psychology of like feeling like a failure, 00:12:29.370 --> 00:12:31.669 like you're not providing well, like nobody wants 00:12:31.669 --> 00:12:33.330 you, like that can eat you alive. But people 00:12:33.330 --> 00:12:36.149 like Marcus and myself, we're here to help you 00:12:36.149 --> 00:12:38.549 realize that is not the case. In fact, I hope 00:12:38.549 --> 00:12:41.929 you look up Marcus's story and see how his story 00:12:41.929 --> 00:12:44.230 has gone along. Because I think too, Marcus, 00:12:44.289 --> 00:12:46.009 a lot of people who are visionaries, especially 00:12:46.009 --> 00:12:48.330 those who don't know. what it's like to compete 00:12:48.330 --> 00:12:50.129 in professional sports, what we hear is, well, 00:12:50.230 --> 00:12:52.669 he had it easy. All he had to do was learn how 00:12:52.669 --> 00:12:55.309 to throw a ball or pick a ball up or hit somebody 00:12:55.309 --> 00:12:58.169 and knock them over. And so his life must be 00:12:58.169 --> 00:13:00.450 so nice. He's got millions of dollars now. And 00:13:00.450 --> 00:13:03.690 so he's just blessed with this path to be able 00:13:03.690 --> 00:13:07.850 to win everything anyway. But I want you to speak 00:13:07.850 --> 00:13:09.529 to that truth a little bit. And I'm going to 00:13:09.529 --> 00:13:11.710 cushion it a little bit and help some of these 00:13:11.710 --> 00:13:14.710 individuals with that mindset. My friends. Mark 00:13:14.710 --> 00:13:17.450 Victor Hansen and Jack Canfield, they followed 00:13:17.450 --> 00:13:18.870 a similar path. It's easy to look at them and 00:13:18.870 --> 00:13:20.629 say, well, they sold one of the best books of 00:13:20.629 --> 00:13:22.269 all time with Chicken Soup for the Soul. But 00:13:22.269 --> 00:13:25.970 they spent three years doing the Power Five every 00:13:25.970 --> 00:13:28.750 day, contacting five entities and trying to get 00:13:28.750 --> 00:13:31.190 this into people's hands and giving their book 00:13:31.190 --> 00:13:32.929 away and sending it to celebrities. And it took 00:13:32.929 --> 00:13:35.509 them two to three years before they finally cracked 00:13:35.509 --> 00:13:37.169 the code and got somebody to take it seriously. 00:13:37.659 --> 00:13:39.399 and put it in front of a worldwide audience. 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:41.620 And they were relentless about it. Marcus, I've 00:13:41.620 --> 00:13:43.899 seen you live the same type of thing through 00:13:43.899 --> 00:13:45.480 watching your story and hearing what you shared 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.220 with Dr. Lance and them. So again, giving you 00:13:48.220 --> 00:13:49.600 the opportunity to speak to that truth. Has it 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:52.759 just been an easy cakewalk? Now that you've been 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:55.539 to the NFL and you're nationally known and possibly 00:13:55.539 --> 00:14:00.899 globally, how do we help people not feel intimidated 00:14:00.899 --> 00:14:03.360 by the reality that they may not have had that 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:06.110 audience? but also relate to the reality that 00:14:06.110 --> 00:14:07.889 you know what it means to put in the hard work. 00:14:08.289 --> 00:14:11.570 You know what, Jackson? Being an NFL athlete. 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:14.460 getting to that level it's not a cakewalk because 00:14:14.460 --> 00:14:17.440 you have to go through so much sacrifice so much 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:20.360 on your body on your mind the education you have 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:22.440 to put into your class work your school work 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.220 on the field it is just constant relentless effort 00:14:26.220 --> 00:14:29.019 discipline and drive now when it comes to the 00:14:29.019 --> 00:14:30.840 business side let me tell you something ladies 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:34.500 and gentlemen i hit complete rock bottom in 2013 00:14:34.500 --> 00:14:39.100 after i lost my multiple eight -figure -a -year 00:14:39.100 --> 00:14:41.720 construction company that I built with my business 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:45.360 partner. We lost that company because of ego, 00:14:45.580 --> 00:14:49.639 bravado, and just some very egocentric behavior. 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:53.620 And I ended up losing my home, both my cars, 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:57.460 all my money, everything. When I got to Raleigh 00:14:57.460 --> 00:15:02.399 in 2013, I had $400 left to my name. I had my 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:06.070 fiance, my stepdaughter. And I got a job, and 00:15:06.070 --> 00:15:09.190 I got fired from that job two months later. I 00:15:09.190 --> 00:15:12.470 ended up getting fired from another job, a masonry 00:15:12.470 --> 00:15:15.789 contractor, right after that, five days later. 00:15:15.850 --> 00:15:18.009 I was working the job for two months, got fired, 00:15:18.190 --> 00:15:20.429 went to a company the next day, got a job, got 00:15:20.429 --> 00:15:23.970 fired from that job five days later, fired twice 00:15:23.970 --> 00:15:26.940 in the same week. I ended up working as a janitor 00:15:26.940 --> 00:15:32.279 in 2013 September for $8 .25 an hour just to 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:35.779 feed my family. And I ended up having my rock 00:15:35.779 --> 00:15:39.139 bottom spoiled milk moment when somebody's trash 00:15:39.139 --> 00:15:44.039 and rotten meat and nasty, protruding, horrible 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:47.440 smelling garbage got all over me. And that was 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:49.840 my wake up call. And that's why I was like, man, 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:52.659 if I don't make a change today, I'm going to 00:15:52.659 --> 00:15:55.450 be right here on this curb for the. rest of my 00:15:55.450 --> 00:15:59.309 life saying what i used to be or what i could 00:15:59.309 --> 00:16:02.809 have been or worse yet right uh jackson what 00:16:02.809 --> 00:16:06.850 i was or what i had been and i made a choice 00:16:06.850 --> 00:16:09.230 and i said let's try to start speaking and like 00:16:09.230 --> 00:16:11.830 mark victor hansen who i've met personally and 00:16:11.830 --> 00:16:14.990 like jack canton who i've met personally i spoke 00:16:14.990 --> 00:16:19.250 for two and a half years without one paid job 00:16:19.250 --> 00:16:23.919 not one year not two yeah buddy and a half 30 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:28.460 months of straight no, no, no, or yes, but it's 00:16:28.460 --> 00:16:31.639 free. And it took me two and a half years. I 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:34.960 started September 2013. Didn't get my first paid 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:38.940 job until April 2016. Got my second paid job 00:16:38.940 --> 00:16:43.679 April 2017. 2018, I had the pleasure of meeting 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:47.419 Mel Robbins and being on her audio book, Kick 00:16:47.419 --> 00:16:50.000 Ass with Mel, which is a number one. globally 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:53.919 downloaded audio book in 2019 the summer of 2019 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:58.179 and she taught me how to be inspirational not 00:16:58.179 --> 00:17:02.100 motivational and once that happened Life got 00:17:02.100 --> 00:17:05.019 a lot better, but I still had to work. I still 00:17:05.019 --> 00:17:07.339 had to grind. I still had to put the time in. 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:10.259 The same way I do now. And now here we are. We've 00:17:10.259 --> 00:17:14.480 worked for over 90 Fortune 500 companies as a 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:17.680 speaker, over 90. Five -time best -selling author, 00:17:17.980 --> 00:17:20.339 top -ranked podcast, business coach, corporate 00:17:20.339 --> 00:17:23.319 consultant. But again, same thing, man. We're 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:27.279 building our structures, right? Our AI, our workflow, 00:17:27.420 --> 00:17:31.299 our funnels. We are enhancing our podcast. workflow, 00:17:31.460 --> 00:17:34.539 creating a speaker workflow and funnel, a coaching 00:17:34.539 --> 00:17:37.339 slash consulting workflow and funnel. The work 00:17:37.339 --> 00:17:39.440 never stops, but I'm going to tell you something. 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:43.119 It's been an absolute grind to get here. Again, 00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:46.059 ask yourself this question. If you were starting 00:17:46.059 --> 00:17:49.299 something and it took you two and a half years, 00:17:49.700 --> 00:17:52.160 say it again. You're starting something that 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:54.500 took you two and a half years to get your first 00:17:54.500 --> 00:17:59.039 paycheck. Would you see it through? I did. That's 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:02.779 what we have to do. And that's why I celebrated 00:18:02.779 --> 00:18:05.400 that, my friends. Visionaries, these are not 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:08.079 moments to stop and cry and to think, oh, man, 00:18:08.140 --> 00:18:10.960 poor Marcus. These are moments to think that 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:13.299 man's putting in his dues. He's lifting the weights. 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:15.519 Martin Luther King, he didn't have an easy path. 00:18:15.740 --> 00:18:17.779 Nelson Mandela, he didn't have an easy path. 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:20.519 Jesus didn't have an easy path. This life is 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:23.759 not about easy. Nobody wants to go on a basketball 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:26.500 court and play basketball against themselves. 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:30.119 That is not fun. It is not fun to go through 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:32.039 life and have the easy route. And there are plenty 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.099 of countries out there. I'm living in Ecuador 00:18:34.099 --> 00:18:36.819 right now where there is not a lot of opportunity, 00:18:36.980 --> 00:18:38.799 where people don't know how to find the opportunity. 00:18:39.019 --> 00:18:40.799 So I'll switch one little word up that Marcus 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:42.700 used. He said he had to pay the dues. He had 00:18:42.700 --> 00:18:45.019 to put in the work. He got to pay the dues. He 00:18:45.019 --> 00:18:47.279 got to put in the work. He had the opportunity 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:50.599 to maximize his life and the rewards for doing 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:53.039 that. As you guys can see, based on his websites 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:55.019 and the relationships he's forming, the people 00:18:55.019 --> 00:18:57.680 that he's meeting are paying off. This is somebody 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:00.440 who does understand not just motivation, but 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:02.759 inspiration. And as you guys know, as visionaries, 00:19:02.779 --> 00:19:04.839 those of you who follow us regularly, instead 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:07.160 of a business world that is constantly inviting 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:10.599 and offering and trying to prematurely support 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:12.839 relationships that aren't built, we believe in 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:16.180 intriguing, attracting, and inspiring. And those 00:19:16.180 --> 00:19:18.599 who are inspired... are then ready for those 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:20.480 invitations and offers and the greatest leaders 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:22.400 follow the same path. Marcus, you're emulating 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:24.599 it whether you know it or not. If this is our 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:28.099 last opportunity to talk, Marcus, what is the 00:19:28.099 --> 00:19:30.079 final words of wisdom that you would leave with 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.099 every visionary out there? So I'm going to say 00:19:33.099 --> 00:19:36.119 two things really quickly. Great visionaries 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:39.900 are what I call aspirational leaders. Aspirational 00:19:39.900 --> 00:19:43.480 leaders create the vision. right they are the 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:46.819 ones that model discipline they are the ones 00:19:46.819 --> 00:19:50.119 that you know lead by identity and know who they 00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:54.920 are they they live the standard that's aspirational 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:58.420 and aspirational those are the visionaries but 00:19:58.420 --> 00:20:01.900 here's the catch the visionaries have to fight 00:20:01.900 --> 00:20:06.460 the hardest battle that there is in life the 00:20:06.460 --> 00:20:09.740 battle against themselves so here's my quote 00:20:09.740 --> 00:20:13.920 for you never tell your mind negative thoughts 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:18.339 in a joking manner your body cannot dissimulate 00:20:18.339 --> 00:20:23.200 the difference words cast spells that's why it's 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:26.500 called spelling choose how you talk to yourself 00:20:26.500 --> 00:20:32.640 and choose wisely bruce lee And I say that because 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:35.900 you who are listening to this awesome podcast, 00:20:36.140 --> 00:20:39.640 remember, you have to talk good about yourself. 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:43.019 You're going to be built different. You got to 00:20:43.019 --> 00:20:45.900 be your biggest and best fan because you have 00:20:45.900 --> 00:20:50.140 to remember the battle against your mind is the 00:20:50.140 --> 00:20:54.119 biggest battle visionary or aspirational leaders 00:20:54.119 --> 00:20:57.400 face. If you can win that battle, you can win 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:00.460 anything you have going forward in your life. 00:21:01.869 --> 00:21:04.029 Marcus, you have no idea how much I love the 00:21:04.029 --> 00:21:06.490 advice that you just gave. Yes, you might know. 00:21:06.549 --> 00:21:09.410 You might know how much I love the advice. I'm 00:21:09.410 --> 00:21:11.250 going to put a little bit of a spin on this as 00:21:11.250 --> 00:21:13.130 well, my friends, because some of you have heard 00:21:13.130 --> 00:21:15.890 me talk about this before. We live in a world 00:21:15.890 --> 00:21:19.730 that is addicted to expectations. And the business 00:21:19.730 --> 00:21:22.690 world is constantly talking about quarterly expectations. 00:21:22.750 --> 00:21:25.109 Yet the business world has a track record of 00:21:25.109 --> 00:21:29.170 failing at a 96 % rate over 10 years. For more 00:21:29.170 --> 00:21:32.049 than 10 years, businesses fell. That's been going 00:21:32.049 --> 00:21:35.650 on for 100 years. We have to change the formula. 00:21:35.750 --> 00:21:37.309 When you talk to as many business owners and 00:21:37.309 --> 00:21:39.430 visionaries as I do, you realize that the 4 % 00:21:39.430 --> 00:21:42.549 who survived the 10 -year mark are not crushing 00:21:42.549 --> 00:21:44.690 it. They're still getting crushed at a higher 00:21:44.690 --> 00:21:46.990 level. And it is expectations that is one of 00:21:46.990 --> 00:21:49.869 the roots that consistently disrupts that. Shakespeare 00:21:49.869 --> 00:21:54.170 said, expectation is the root of all heartache. 00:21:54.490 --> 00:21:56.450 Why do I mention this right now? Because Mark 00:21:56.450 --> 00:21:58.329 has tapped into a word that no other visionary 00:21:58.329 --> 00:22:00.309 has ever tapped into in this channel besides 00:22:00.309 --> 00:22:02.369 myself, and it is one of my favorite words, and 00:22:02.369 --> 00:22:06.190 that is aspirations. Aspirations is the virtue 00:22:06.190 --> 00:22:10.309 that mirrors the vice of expectation, meaning 00:22:10.309 --> 00:22:13.200 we don't have to give up desires. We just need 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:15.480 to reframe them and realize that we should be 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:18.720 grateful for what we have while also recognizing 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:21.079 that we can be grateful for what we can obtain. 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:23.980 And if we lean into true hope, which means a 00:22:23.980 --> 00:22:26.819 certainty and a security in what we believe and 00:22:26.819 --> 00:22:28.559 actually putting in the work, then aspirations 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:31.059 are what can carry us forward. Meanwhile, we 00:22:31.059 --> 00:22:34.279 can escape the bonds of expectations. My hope 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:36.180 is for all of you to hear what Marcus said. You 00:22:36.180 --> 00:22:38.559 got ears to hear. hear what he just said because 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:40.180 that is one of the most powerful truths that 00:22:40.180 --> 00:22:42.380 can possibly bless your life marcus you've been 00:22:42.380 --> 00:22:44.720 a blessing to us my friends go google marcus 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:47.480 ogden it is not hard to find him and go reach 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:49.680 out to him if you if you need a mentor if you 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:51.339 want a business partner if he wants me to work 00:22:51.339 --> 00:22:53.539 with These are the types of people that are making 00:22:53.539 --> 00:22:55.420 the world better. Thank you, Marcus. Thank you 00:22:55.420 --> 00:22:57.299 for being here today. I'm really happy that you 00:22:57.299 --> 00:22:59.579 tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward 00:22:59.579 --> 00:23:03.119 to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:04.880 to move forward. This is going to get more and 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:06.900 more fun. We'll have more and more engagement 00:23:06.900 --> 00:23:09.019 as well. We'll invite people to participate in 00:23:09.019 --> 00:23:11.200 the show. And thank you for giving us your time 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:13.500 and attention. Have an excellent time building 00:23:13.500 --> 00:23:15.839 out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.