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Hey, what's up, everybody? Welcome in to another

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episode of Vision Pros Live. And I'm celebrating

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having reached over 2 ,000 episodes. I cannot

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believe that. What a surreal feeling. And I'm

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building out some optimizations for the show

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with the team, as inspired by the team, actually.

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That is one of the greatest resources and assets

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and life contributions that I've had, is having

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team members who help me build things. and inspire

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me to do so well. So we're constantly working

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in optimization and the future for podcasting

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is super bright. I do call our industry. an amateur

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industry. And that's not an insult. That's a

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reality. The reality is anybody can purchase

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a $45 microphone. Anybody can purchase a $60

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camera and anybody can, can use anything. It

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can use Facebook live and call it a podcast.

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I don't have to have something official. That's

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exactly what I did in my first episode. And so

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there's so many ways you can build out and we're

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in a top 5 % global ranking right now. And we

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don't even focus very much on that reality. We

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probably should be north of 2%. But My focus

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is on making sure that the experience is as high

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quality as possible for my guests, for my team

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as well. And I want to make sure that everything

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that we're doing continues to get optimized.

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So right now I'm doing that with ChatGPT. One

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of the greatest opportunities we just came across

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as we were optimizing was when people booked

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to be on our show, you just go to visionproslive

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.com, by the way, if you're a visioner and you

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want to be with us, click on the button that

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says be our guest. You'll go to a landing page

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where it has our trailer and tells you about

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the experience. Then when you click to book,

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you're going to actually book your appointment.

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And this is designed as a starter stage. We're

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not trying to exclude and only have the best

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of the best visionaries. That's for the beyourbestshow

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.com. But for here, we're inviting anybody to

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come on and share what your vision is to help

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the world. And we do have our own ways of pre

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-qualifying and saying, you know, this isn't

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going to be a good fit for us or we don't want

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to actually move forward to this episode. You

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do got to qualify. But in general, we do want

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to inspire people to pursue their dreams. And

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it's really fun to be the one who found somebody

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first. So with all that said, as soon as people

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book, they would end up on a confirmation page.

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And I noticed today when we were looking at that,

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that it said we were top 10 % global. And I was

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like, oh, we've been a top 5 % for a long time.

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And I noticed it said we had 17 ,000 downloads.

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And I was like, well, wait a second. We're over

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44 ,000 downloads now. And there was other elements

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of it that I realized like, you know what? Rather

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than just make these copy tweaks. It's probably

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time that we upgrade this experience. So I started

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to work with ChatGPT and I started to ask it

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about, okay, we have what we consider the customer

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journey mapping. It's not a customer, but it's

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somebody who's come in our show. We need to take

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care of them. So the guest. But, you know, you

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call it customer journey mapping. Where are they

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at in this process? Okay, they're at the process

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of having booked. What is it that we can do to

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best serve them in this moment? What is it that

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they could use? And it didn't do a very good

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job of thinking through that, which was surprising.

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But I combined that with, okay, now think through

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our principles of intrigue, attract, and inspire

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before inviting. And now they've been invited

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and they are accepting the invitation. What does

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the guest want to have right after that experience?

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Do they want to have access to the studio to

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see and make sure their equipment's good? Do

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they want a checklist of things? to prepare for.

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They probably don't want to go and subscribe

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to our channel and our show to get notifications

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for themselves, but they probably do want to

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expand their own audience. And one of the best

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ways to expand their own audience is to realize

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that, wow, when they subscribe, it tells the

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algorithm, it gives a little bitty juice to YouTube

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or wherever else they subscribe that, huh, people

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really like this thing. And so people like you.

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will end up going and subscribing too. They'll

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get recommended. The show gets recommended to

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people like you. So it does actually increase

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your distribution. And at the end of the day,

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that's the hidden secret about podcasting. Most

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podcasters have not learned hardly anything in

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podcast guests about distribution and how distribution

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works. And the neat thing is once you have your

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eyes open to it, it's like now you know it forever.

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So it's not like I know some secret that it's

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like, oh, Jackson has this wisdom. Nobody else

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does. No, there's a lot. There's people who do,

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but most people don't have it. So the truth,

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just like a TV show, a TV show before it airs,

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it has trailers and announcements. It has posters.

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It has all sorts of things to get people to want

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to go to it. The problem with podcasting is if

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you don't promote your episode in advance, then

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it's kind of like inviting people to a firework

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show the moment the firework show starts. They're

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not going to arrive until after the grand finale.

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And then it's too late. And then it's like over.

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And it's like, who cares? And I don't want to

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see a bunch of smoke in there. I want to see

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the real thing. And so it's so important to learn

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about it. So I said, you know what? Oh, cool.

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We've incorporated Alfred into firstclassbusiness

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.io. Alfred is our GPT that we designed. to help

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businesses with basic business strategy for free.

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And so now I'm incorporating Alfred into the

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confirmation page and ultimately providing this

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type of education, but not in a condescending

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fashion. We want to provide in a way where people

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kind of discover it and feel empowered and know

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that like, we're not trying to babysit people

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long. We're just trying to help people see. And

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when people have a discovery and kind of a gamification

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experience, they tend to appreciate these things

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more. Right now, I'm going to share with you

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my screen of, and so I took all that and then

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went back to ChatGPT and I said, okay, it's time

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to overhaul the signing page and not just the

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copy this time. What we're going to do, we're

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going to create one of our interactive widgets,

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the way that we've done this with websites. And

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here are some of the interactive widgets that

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you've built for us. And we need to turn this

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page into one of those experiences. And so let's

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take a look and see what ChatGPT was able to

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build for me. And it took ChatGPT about five

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minutes to finish this process off. And I might

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abandon it and go over to Gemini and use Gemini

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because Gemini is typically better at this, by

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the way. But, man, something just tells me to

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keep using ChatGPT. So I do. All right. So, you

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know, I shared the wrong tab. Let me go back.

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I'm going to share the whole screen on this as

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well. All right. Let's go to share the whole

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screen. And we're going to go over to the actual

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page that was built. And it's quite clunky. You

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can see that when our header is a little bit

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clunky, our header still has our old first -class

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business logo on it. It needs a new one. And

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so we're going to get that out of the way. You

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can see that the overlapping banner here at the

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bottom, let me hide the stream here. It's got

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this teal line behind it, and you can't really

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see this button. This is a pretty darn amount

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of awesome progress for a first iteration. And

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the copy is kind of garbage. There's all sorts

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of little copy mistakes on here from having the

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word, where is it? And now I'm overlooking all

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the glaring simple right here. Like why? This

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information down here, not necessary. This button

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doesn't really make sense. It's for the first

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-class business branding instead of the Vision

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Pros branding. This button has no reason whatsoever

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to open and close. Oh, it's a network thing.

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It's like, why does it even say that? And then

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the copy is just horrendous. And part of that

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is because of how much I asked ChatGP to do at

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once. And, okay, cool. So it's creating an interactive

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experience where people can put their information

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in to get. copy built for themselves without

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having to do too much. But again, it's just trying

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to do way too much. There's too many call to

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actions. The image didn't come through right.

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There's a lot of redundancy built into it. And

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so I just basically went back to ChatGPT and

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I complained about all that. And I complained

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about it. as nice of a way as I could on a Friday

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night or like, I really want to just get this

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done. And you can see that it's, it says stop

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right here. It's still working through building.

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Hopefully it is. Sometimes it, it, it gets caught

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up and then doesn't move forward. And sometimes

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it has to do probably with the amount that I'm

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doing with my computer and the Ram, not necessarily

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the let's see here, the internet, but sometimes

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it has to do with the internet. The good news

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is today I'm hardwired, so it shouldn't be an

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issue. Um, all right. So it's getting down to

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the, I don't, I don't want to rush it though.

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I have a feeling like when you get to the bottom,

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if you're like trying to rush it forward, you're

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just asking it to like struggle to load more.

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So we'll just wait patiently for that. And in

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the meantime, we'll talk more about the future

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podcasting. So again, we we've seen, let's go

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back over and just take a quick look. Um, what

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are we doing now that people are booking their

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show? We're going to be training them on, hey,

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here's how to get ready. And you can notice how

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it's like created this nifty bar. What's going

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to take that out on the next one? I don't like

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that. I want the bar in there. So I'll have to

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ask for it to add it back in. Because I think

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it's really neat to show people this is what

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you're capable of creating these days, even as

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a non -coder. You can create things like this

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for your own customer experience. And so, again,

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these little buttons, they look all funky because

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they're all different sizes. And that kind of

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remixes the UI. And the user interface and the

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user experience then gets diluted. And then there's

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this little outline that exists that shouldn't

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when you actually select it. So those things

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can be very distracting. And the copy, it says,

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test your studio setup. Yeah, I get that. But

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I couldn't even read that, how much wording is

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on the screen. This is camera, mic, lighting,

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and connection. It's a horrible sentence. It's

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not a sentence. And so that's awkward. And then

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it says, it removes friction and raises confidence

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immediately. That's like, OK, we're not really.

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We don't really need to make awkward statements

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like that. Like, okay, yes, checking your camera,

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checking your mic, getting your lighting correct,

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and making sure your connection's stable will

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remove friction and it will raise the confidence

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that you feel immediately in yourself. But trying

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to deliver it in this way, that's not how things

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are done. So AI still has a long way to go to

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know how to really articulate what it is we're

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looking for. And I don't even know how to explain

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that. It's just dumb. It's just kind of dumb

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right now. It's very rudimentary and basic. So

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it's like a prodigy child that understands how

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to be smart, but doesn't quite know how to intellectually

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and socially pull it all together. That's what

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I feel like AI is at right now. So with our little

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AI child, we're going to continue to give it

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some grace. And all we have to do is optimize

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it. So let's go back and talk again about the

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future of podcasting. So one of the great features

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of podcasting, let's tie it first to some of

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the present of podcasting that most people are

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taking advantage of. Alex Sanfilippo, Alex Sanfilippo,

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Alex Sanfilippo, and Podmatch. Podmatch is like

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the best thing ever for interviewers. and interviewees

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a podcast. It's like a dating service for podcasts,

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guests, and hosts that allows us to connect super,

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super easily. I pay like $60 a month, but I also

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make more than $60 a month most of the time.

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This month we made like 40, but last month we

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made like 230 or something. And what they do

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is actually reward you for the amount of episodes

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that you fulfill. And so if you're active on

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there, proactively booking as a guest and becoming

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a guest and fulfilling on that, and then of course

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being a host. they're paying you for it. It's

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so neat. So it's a software that pays for itself

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and it takes care of my bookings. And my guests

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are so high quality through that network compared

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to other channels. And so again, I like meeting

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people in other places too, but it is really,

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really nice to be in a network that is a small

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pay to play fee in order to make sure I'm connecting

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with some of the best leaders. And so I highly

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recommend checking out and using Podmatch. Joe

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Rogan last year was able to not just sign a deal

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that put him in a... What was it? I don't remember

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how much the deal was. I hope you do. Quarter

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of a billion, I believe, for his podcast to be

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on Spotify or to break away from Spotify. One

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of the two. You can look up the details, but

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like, whoa, that made huge, huge strides and

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noise for us. And when President Trump decided

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to go on a podcast, when the world leader decides

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to go on podcasts and then, you know, like, of

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course, lots of other people using it like that,

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that. put it on an entire new scale of of verified

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authority credibility and i'm not i'm not saying

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that um most of you would would agree that politicians

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are the highest source of authority and credibility

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but awareness yes they are talked about globally

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at all levels and so what it did was it It put

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podcasting in the mainstream media and really

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is now challenging mainstream media. I have a

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feeling that that train is just going to continue

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to set course. We're on a downhill slope now

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for success. And so if you're in the spirits

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of wanting to move forward with a podcast, then

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know that is it a financially feasible opportunity

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that could grow? 100%, like 100%. This is one

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of those areas where it's kind of like jumping

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into, I think it's still like jumping into the

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early days of YouTube. The challenge though is

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business is still hard. It's still complicated

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to win. That's not going to change. There's still

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so much to do to make sure that you do this well.

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So if you're just doing it for the money, that's

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not going to work out too well. And if you're

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doing it, Without a monetization strategy, you're

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like, I don't care about the money. Well, the

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money's not going to care about you either. I

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made that mistake for 10 plus years of business.

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I got into business because I wanted to help

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people. And I said, I didn't care about the money.

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Like I said, the money didn't care about me.

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You've got to be a wise steward in this process

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as well. So one of the other futures with podcasting

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is the neat thing is people like me are building

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tools like Alfred GPT, where you can go in and

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learn for free strategy at a level that like

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can't compare with anything that I had. growing

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up as a business owner you have tools and clarity

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and resources available for you that the nice

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thing is you can crash and burn your ship over

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and over faster than ever and you're going to

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that's just part of the the entrepreneur phase

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especially as an entrepreneur especially if you're

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young and new to this stuff it's like okay you're

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you're gonna get the your they say um the wool

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pulled over your eyes you're gonna see the smoke

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and mirrors so many times you're gonna you're

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gonna you're gonna bite the dust many times until

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you grow up I realized like, dang, I need actual

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strategists who are going to truly care about

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me and who are going to support me. And I'm going

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to lean into mentors who are loving, patient,

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persistent, consistent, and reliable. It is very

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hard to find mentors like that. And most of you

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don't believe me. You're like, well, no. All

00:14:15.500 --> 00:14:18.980
these gurus are doing it. No, they're not. Good

00:14:18.980 --> 00:14:21.840
luck. 96 % of businesses lose within 10 years.

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4 % survive. That's not success. The successful

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ones, you have to divide the successful ones

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into which ones did it ethically and which ones

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didn't. And most of us accidentally make unethical

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mistakes too. And so do we repent of those? Do

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we realize like, oh, dang, I need to fix that.

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I fired my first three designers, blamed them,

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realized, oh, wow, you're pointing fingers at

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other people. It's always three fingers pointing

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back at you. There's lessons we learn along the

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way too. And sometimes they're good. Sometimes

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they're bad. Sometimes they're ugly. But I think

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the future of podcasting is going to be greatly

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stabilized by the current iterations of AI and

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people opening their eyes to, okay, wow, I can

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get hoodwinked far easier than I thought. And

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I can get tricked into self -assuredness or a

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sense of confidence around something that's not

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actually going to work. And for a little while,

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that will create a little bit of hopelessness

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and despair for us. But human beings are pretty

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resilient and we bounce back. And again, if you

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can combine the superpowers of using things like

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AI. with getting the right types of mentors and

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saying you know what i'm i can i can help people

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at scale better than i could before because now

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i can tell the the young and the ignorant who

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come to me like hey look don't take my word for

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it just please do me a favor before we talk go

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to chachi bt you got a great plan give it to

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chachi bt and say please poke holes in this for

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me what am i missing If I want to have the best

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success possible, if I want to create a secure

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path to the future, what am I overlooking? And

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then they can go have that conversation with

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ChatGPT. I don't have to be the bad guy anymore.

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It is a really, really wonderful feeling. And

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so I am so grateful for AI. It helps me from

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coming across as like, I don't want to be selfish.

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I just don't want people to fail. It really sucks

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to, one, pop people's balloon. It really sucks

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to tell people. I don't think this is going to

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work. It's really hard to tell people, like,

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your copy's not very good. And it's not because

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I want to hurt them. It's because I want to help

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them. But AI is a breath of fresh air to help

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me do that in a way that's not so jarring. All

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right, let's go see if that coding's done. I

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hope it is. I don't like how long it takes. Chat,

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you want me to back over, my friend? So let's

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go over here and see. We're back over. And it's

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still going. What's going on? Oh, maybe it got

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stuck. yep oh that's why um it did get stuck

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bummer um you got stuck stuck please try again

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okay so we'll have to see that in just a minute

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but let's let's keep talking we get so many more

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things at the oh you know what i gotta refresh

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let's try that all right let's refresh it and

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once we refresh it let me back on and It would

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be really cool if it learned how to self -recovery.

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That would be amazing. Did it? Did it? Did it?

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I don't think it did. I don't trust it. You know

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what? Let's try it, though. Let's see if it did.

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Let's just see if it worked. All right. Copy.

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That would be amazing. That would make me so

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happy. I'm going to go back over here to where

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we built this. Look how easy this is. I don't

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have to know how to code. My team had to set

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this part up, or I did some. I don't know. One

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of us did it back in the day. I click on the

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place where the code is. I click on Open Code

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Editor. All right. And then. I'm going to click

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on this, Control -A, Control -V. Oh, yeah, that

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definitely got stuck. Okay, so let's just see

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what it does, though. Why not? And I saved it.

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Now I'm going to go save it here. I'm going to

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refresh that page, and you're going to see how

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broken it is. All right, refresh. Okay, so it

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started. it it started to get after but yeah

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you can tell that it's more broken now so let's

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go back over and say you got stuck please try

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again and what does it say it's going to go into

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thinking mode because this is the mode i found

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that it's best to build in oh i understand i'll

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rebuild the page with tighter more human okay

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whatever um so now it's still thinking refining

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the code base i actually kind of enjoy reading

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these sometimes because one time i was using

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the deep research mode. And I was live about

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this and the system decided to try to hack, I

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think it was Michael Stelzner, the social media

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examiner founder's YouTube account on my behalf.

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And I was like, I did not ask it to do this.

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I was asking for data, but I didn't ask it to

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do that. I was like, well, that's crazy. So yes,

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these systems can go a little bit. AWOL with

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what they do. Let me get back over here. Okay.

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So future podcasting as well. One of the big

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opportunities with podcasting, I'll stick with

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the monetization aspect because while I do believe

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in the scripture that money is the root of all

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evil, money is not the root of all, sorry, the

00:19:13.890 --> 00:19:15.710
love of money is the root of all evil. Money

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is not the root of all evil. It is the love of

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it. But we're also taught to be wise stewards.

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And so part of being a wise steward is understanding

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how money works and being confident with it and

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being comfortable with it and being ready to

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set plans up to be able to take care of it. Imagine

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me telling God, I want to help your children

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and do good things in this world, but I don't

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care about your resource. I'm not going to be

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responsible with it. I'm not going to learn how

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to take care of it. I'm not going to multiply

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it. Like, why would he empower me with the resource

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if that's my attitude towards it? not an attitude

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for success. So if I want to be able to create

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and cultivate what's necessary, then I need to

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be more responsible with my finances. And part

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of that is creating financial plans. So on the

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podcasting side, one, I'm big into the Alex Hermosi

00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:05.339
plan, and I've got a pretty stable business model

00:20:05.339 --> 00:20:07.720
with first -class business. So I try not to worry

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about forcing the monetization through our podcast.

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You can notice I've got some sponsors up here.

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My sponsors, I don't pitch them. I'm being sponsors.

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In fact, I actually give the sponsorships to

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clients that I love. So in this case, shout out

00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:24.700
to Jennifer Reed of Practice Makes Permanent.

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She launched her business about a year before,

00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:28.759
started working with us, and then she decided

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to start working. She was referred to us by a

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friend. No, she was referred to us by a client

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who became a client through our Operadoras Latinas

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podcast, our Spanish podcast. His name is Dr.

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Fernando Marengo. And him and I have a mastermind

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that we run together as well on Fridays now.

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Every Friday, connect the comproposito, connect

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with purpose to help other Latinos with their

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businesses. So that relationship has blossomed

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into a phenomenal referral partnership with Jennifer

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Reed. And she's done an excellent job of building

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out her brand, PMP, EQ Plus. And then there's

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Journey to Wellness. That's with Dr. Shannon

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and Dr. Justin Pierce. They got just over a quarter

00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:06.680
million followers. Everybody that I know that

00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:09.509
has a health problem. I refer to Dr. Shannon.

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I have referred her three people successfully

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over the years. All three of them absolutely

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raved. There are people who did not know what

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to do. They did not have solutions to their health

00:21:19.390 --> 00:21:21.049
problems. I don't understand at all. I'm not

00:21:21.049 --> 00:21:22.529
going to pretend to understand the mumbo jumbo.

00:21:22.730 --> 00:21:26.670
I like the movie The Saint a lot. And every single

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one of them absolutely loved their experience

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and was able to resolve their health challenges

00:21:31.509 --> 00:21:34.069
that were not resolvable outside of Shannon.

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Dr. Shannon, Journey to Wellness. Very happy

00:21:36.690 --> 00:21:37.809
that we started working together a few months

00:21:37.809 --> 00:21:41.670
ago. And they're rebranding to, as of today,

00:21:41.849 --> 00:21:45.150
drshannon .com. I'm very excited about the process

00:21:45.150 --> 00:21:47.390
of being able to spearhead that with a team.

00:21:47.829 --> 00:21:51.349
So anyway, those sponsors right there. My sponsors,

00:21:51.509 --> 00:21:55.190
I do it as a means of gifting to them. And one

00:21:55.190 --> 00:21:56.650
of the things that we're building out slowly

00:21:56.650 --> 00:21:58.849
based on our priorities, because again, we make

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money through our other business. For those of

00:22:03.940 --> 00:22:07.559
you who may want to run your podcast with sponsorships,

00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:11.319
that's okay. And you can, it's not only okay,

00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:14.140
I highly recommend and encourage it. You just

00:22:14.140 --> 00:22:16.740
need to build the assets out for it. And most

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people think that you have to have a certain

00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:19.960
amount of views. You have to have a certain amount

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of distribution. You have to have these vanity

00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:26.059
metrics. And no, you don't. What you need is

00:22:26.059 --> 00:22:29.759
supply and demand. Supply and demand is 100 %

00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:31.970
controllable and in your favor. Because if you've

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only got two spots up here, then if somebody

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wants to pay $5 for spot one, and somebody wants

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to pay $5 for spot two, and you get somebody

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else who comes along later who wants one of those

00:22:41.890 --> 00:22:44.549
two spots, well, they can have it because you

00:22:44.549 --> 00:22:46.470
don't have it. But if they want to pay more than

00:22:46.470 --> 00:22:48.589
the other two, Then you create what's called

00:22:48.589 --> 00:22:50.730
a bidding war. And you create an auction process.

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This is exactly what Facebook and Google do with

00:22:53.029 --> 00:22:55.269
ads. You just can't see it, but it's all based

00:22:55.269 --> 00:22:57.269
on an auction process. Who's willing to pay the

00:22:57.269 --> 00:22:59.390
most amount to be able to get that ad in front

00:22:59.390 --> 00:23:01.789
of this audience? And you don't need a big audience

00:23:01.789 --> 00:23:04.950
either. For a bank, for instance, they just need

00:23:04.950 --> 00:23:07.970
one person to buy a house, to take out a mortgage,

00:23:08.170 --> 00:23:11.029
to make over six figures, really, these days.

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Freaking half a million dollars. Oh my goodness.

00:23:14.150 --> 00:23:17.269
So how much is it worth for a bank to be here

00:23:17.269 --> 00:23:23.009
on my show? A ton of freaking money. But I'm

00:23:23.009 --> 00:23:25.329
not doing this for the sake of the money. The

00:23:25.329 --> 00:23:28.109
money is a byproduct of the quality of what we're

00:23:28.109 --> 00:23:30.029
building here at First Class Business and Vision

00:23:30.029 --> 00:23:33.509
Pros Life. And so will I do that? Oh yeah, you

00:23:33.509 --> 00:23:35.750
better believe I will. But Johnny Dumas is a

00:23:35.750 --> 00:23:38.650
great example of this. He makes over $200 ,000

00:23:38.650 --> 00:23:42.029
a month typically. And where does 90 % of his

00:23:42.029 --> 00:23:44.789
revenue come from? Advertising sponsorships.

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And people would say that people wouldn't advertise

00:23:47.049 --> 00:23:49.869
with him if it wasn't for the reach that he has.

00:23:50.049 --> 00:23:53.130
I don't think that's true. I do know that most

00:23:53.130 --> 00:23:55.390
people would say that's true, but it's kind of

00:23:55.390 --> 00:23:56.970
like the same people who will tell you that,

00:23:57.029 --> 00:23:59.309
oh no, I never saw that billboard. That billboard

00:23:59.309 --> 00:24:01.450
didn't have any influence on me. You don't know.

00:24:01.589 --> 00:24:04.500
You cannot consciously know. There's no way to

00:24:04.500 --> 00:24:07.380
know how imperative or how important that billboard

00:24:07.380 --> 00:24:10.319
was in your decision to actually buy or go to

00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:13.440
that place. And so in some cases, people probably

00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:15.220
never even saw it, never even knew it existed

00:24:15.220 --> 00:24:18.400
subconsciously too. In other cases, it may have

00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:21.380
been the driving factor that drove somebody to

00:24:21.380 --> 00:24:23.680
make the purchase or move forward, whatever the

00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:26.859
commitment is. So back to your podcast opportunity

00:24:26.859 --> 00:24:31.250
and sponsorships. The real ability to sell the

00:24:31.250 --> 00:24:33.809
sponsorship depends on your ability to connect

00:24:33.809 --> 00:24:37.210
your value with your audience. And what really

00:24:37.210 --> 00:24:40.289
is at the core of that, as Les Brown would say,

00:24:40.349 --> 00:24:44.049
is stories sell. and facts tell so become a good

00:24:44.049 --> 00:24:46.289
story storyteller because that will help you

00:24:46.289 --> 00:24:49.029
sell the sponsorship but even better yet become

00:24:49.029 --> 00:24:51.410
interested and actually listen to the person

00:24:51.410 --> 00:24:53.410
who may want that sponsorship if you learn to

00:24:53.410 --> 00:24:55.990
ask the right questions and help them realize

00:24:55.990 --> 00:24:58.650
that them connecting with your audience for instance

00:24:58.650 --> 00:25:01.950
me talking to a bank hey um you know you might

00:25:01.950 --> 00:25:04.170
want to consider being a sponsor of vision pros

00:25:04.170 --> 00:25:08.920
live but i would love to ask you um Or, you know,

00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.599
do you have nationwide offers for one? Because,

00:25:11.619 --> 00:25:13.240
you know, how important, how helpful would it

00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:15.940
be to connect with visionary leaders who are

00:25:15.940 --> 00:25:19.160
legacy driven, that live in most 90 % of them

00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:23.940
live in America. And they're pretty influenced

00:25:23.940 --> 00:25:25.960
by their relationship, direct relationship with

00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:28.539
me. Plus, there's an audience of third party

00:25:28.539 --> 00:25:30.700
individuals who are always watching and considering

00:25:30.700 --> 00:25:35.079
it. But how helpful would it be? How much money

00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:38.680
would you make if just one? of my 2 ,000 guests

00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:42.599
decided to get their mortgage with you. Oh, well,

00:25:42.660 --> 00:25:46.099
that would actually bring in about $200 ,000.

00:25:47.779 --> 00:25:50.279
Okay. So that would bring in about $200 ,000.

00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:54.460
If we were to become proactive endorsers for

00:25:54.460 --> 00:25:57.019
the bank, we're going to actually talk to people

00:25:57.019 --> 00:26:01.200
about what you do and how you do it and why we

00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:04.029
wanted to connect with you guys on this. Do you

00:26:04.029 --> 00:26:06.309
have any unfair advantages, any offers that would

00:26:06.309 --> 00:26:09.650
make sense for them that would help it be natural

00:26:09.650 --> 00:26:12.970
for me to talk about your bank while I'm engaging

00:26:12.970 --> 00:26:16.170
with them? Well, yeah. No, of course. We've got

00:26:16.170 --> 00:26:20.430
this, this, and that. Okay. And do you have a

00:26:20.430 --> 00:26:22.369
landing page? Because most of our people are

00:26:22.369 --> 00:26:23.910
digital, so they're going to want to see a page,

00:26:23.930 --> 00:26:25.970
and it should be an easy sign -up process. And

00:26:25.970 --> 00:26:28.349
if you don't, would you be able to put one together,

00:26:28.490 --> 00:26:31.450
or could we guide your website team on how to

00:26:31.450 --> 00:26:34.359
create one of the most? optimized landing page

00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:36.099
as possible. We've done this for many people

00:26:36.099 --> 00:26:38.480
in the industry. Um, and so it'd be a privilege

00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:41.819
of ours to help with that process. Um, yeah,

00:26:42.019 --> 00:26:43.940
no, that'd be great. Um, you know, we, we can,

00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:46.079
we can do that too. And do you guys have B roll

00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.700
and, and like footage that we can use and, you

00:26:48.700 --> 00:26:50.380
know, commercial that we can also play during

00:26:50.380 --> 00:26:52.400
segments? Um, cause that would also be a helpful

00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:54.279
way to make sure you get the brand awareness

00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:57.140
in as well. I can ask all the right questions.

00:26:57.180 --> 00:26:58.859
And you can also just take this episode and give

00:26:58.859 --> 00:27:00.420
it to ChatGPT and be like, can you create questions

00:27:00.420 --> 00:27:02.779
like this for me for my podcast so that I can

00:27:02.779 --> 00:27:05.019
create sponsorships and follow what Jackson's

00:27:05.019 --> 00:27:06.460
doing? And can you create a contract for me?

00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:09.920
There's so many things, guys. It's crazy what

00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.759
we're empowered with these days. I wish I had

00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.519
this 15 years ago. Anyway, so yes, that's all

00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.279
part of the future. So all of that would lead

00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.279
me to an awesome opportunity to say, well, then

00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:23.039
if that's the case, I'm willing to do my part.

00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:27.119
how much would you be willing to pay to be a

00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:29.480
sponsor? You know, and again, I don't want to

00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:31.640
take all the risk on myself and hope that you

00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:33.660
pay me in the back end. So would you be willing

00:27:33.660 --> 00:27:35.119
to pay a certain amount up front knowing that

00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:36.759
I'm going to do my best to try to get you a customer

00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:40.099
as soon as possible? Because I think your bank

00:27:40.099 --> 00:27:43.940
seems awesome. Well, yeah, no, we pay, we put

00:27:43.940 --> 00:27:47.240
$5 ,000 into it and we put a revenue share on

00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:50.069
any commission. earned or whatever, maybe 3%.

00:27:50.069 --> 00:27:52.150
Um, I don't know what they would offer, but we

00:27:52.150 --> 00:27:53.930
would just go back and forth and have a negotiation,

00:27:54.009 --> 00:27:56.730
a healthy dialogue about what's possible with

00:27:56.730 --> 00:28:00.549
that. And now I've gone from a $5 and a $5, which

00:28:00.549 --> 00:28:02.650
again, the whole theory, um, you can do this,

00:28:02.650 --> 00:28:06.349
but to an actual bank sponsoring. And now when

00:28:06.349 --> 00:28:08.670
I'm, it's time to create a new opportunity for

00:28:08.670 --> 00:28:11.630
an, you know, a new brand. Um, I let them know

00:28:11.630 --> 00:28:14.609
that I've got one sponsorship of $5 and one at,

00:28:14.690 --> 00:28:17.230
you know, if I can reveal it, the $5 ,000 and.

00:28:17.850 --> 00:28:19.950
If you want to be a sponsor, I'd be happy to

00:28:19.950 --> 00:28:22.829
include you, but there are reasons why people

00:28:22.829 --> 00:28:24.529
want to do this with us because we know how to

00:28:24.529 --> 00:28:26.650
connect people. And I think you can see the snowball

00:28:26.650 --> 00:28:30.190
effect of just what's possible with that. And

00:28:30.190 --> 00:28:33.490
if you line up a bunch of banks, you can really

00:28:33.490 --> 00:28:35.990
do this. I did this with a real estate group.

00:28:36.430 --> 00:28:38.910
in San Antonio and we lined them up in the, in

00:28:38.910 --> 00:28:40.809
the hallway. And these, these ladies were ball

00:28:40.809 --> 00:28:43.670
busters, man. They knew how to sell. And so I

00:28:43.670 --> 00:28:45.950
created the program and the pitch deck for them

00:28:45.950 --> 00:28:48.150
and all this data that was necessary and the

00:28:48.150 --> 00:28:50.210
urgency and the scarcity baked into it. And they

00:28:50.210 --> 00:28:52.089
sold, they sold a quarter of a million dollars

00:28:52.089 --> 00:28:55.430
of sponsorships for a program that still hadn't

00:28:55.430 --> 00:28:59.309
launched and that didn't have an existing reputation

00:28:59.309 --> 00:29:02.410
really in the market within two weeks. It was

00:29:02.410 --> 00:29:06.079
an amazing experience. And yeah, we. It's just

00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:08.700
a matter of planning. And so let's go take a

00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:10.960
look at where we're at with this process. Let's

00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:13.839
go see the future of the Vision Pros Live podcast.

00:29:15.220 --> 00:29:17.200
Hopefully it didn't stall out this time. We'll

00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.400
see. All right, so this is done. All right, I'm

00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:24.319
really excited. And the last code was 1 ,600

00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:27.420
lines, which is cool because it used to cap out

00:29:27.420 --> 00:29:32.359
around 1 ,400. And it did a pretty darn good

00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:36.809
job of creating. the initial phase um i'm like

00:29:36.809 --> 00:29:40.089
i'm spoiled because we're way ahead of the curve

00:29:40.089 --> 00:29:43.529
on building this stuff um there we go now it's

00:29:43.529 --> 00:29:46.109
only okay cool so i cut out all the spanish content

00:29:46.109 --> 00:29:47.690
not because i don't want to serve the spanish

00:29:47.690 --> 00:29:49.109
community because it's not relevant for this

00:29:49.109 --> 00:29:52.269
particular project and i cut out because it's

00:29:52.269 --> 00:29:54.410
harder to render the code it takes twice as long

00:29:54.410 --> 00:29:57.230
when it has to code twice as much. And so I can

00:29:57.230 --> 00:29:59.309
always add that back in if I want to. And I think

00:29:59.309 --> 00:30:01.609
it's great for, for most products and services

00:30:01.609 --> 00:30:04.329
that we do, we create the dual Spanish and English

00:30:04.329 --> 00:30:07.569
versions because it's classy and it's good. So

00:30:07.569 --> 00:30:09.089
let's take a look. All right. So now I've done

00:30:09.089 --> 00:30:11.809
that. Open the page again. I'll close this one.

00:30:11.950 --> 00:30:15.170
We already saw what looks like broken and I still

00:30:15.170 --> 00:30:16.890
don't like the way it looks, but okay, cool.

00:30:16.950 --> 00:30:18.569
So it's not overlap. Let me see. Except all.

00:30:18.650 --> 00:30:22.359
All right. all right vision pros live guest kit

00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:24.079
good that's much better i don't like the little

00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:25.700
button here i think it's awkward it's like why

00:30:25.700 --> 00:30:28.759
um and then youtube apple podcast spotify studio

00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:31.779
oh cool um it's got the links over here so i

00:30:31.779 --> 00:30:34.000
don't like the transparent nature of that because

00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:36.559
it it looks funny with our background we can

00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:38.559
we can make some changes to that but you're confirmed

00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:42.619
this page keeps it simple oh no so i botched

00:30:42.619 --> 00:30:44.799
the copy again show up looking and sounding great

00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.069
then give your episode of clean professional

00:30:47.069 --> 00:30:49.990
push before it drops okay so that's an easy copy

00:30:49.990 --> 00:30:56.109
fix uh ready uh quick prep clean uh okay so yeah

00:30:56.109 --> 00:30:58.130
it should have kept the progress bar because

00:30:58.130 --> 00:31:00.430
now it's really confusing with the the check

00:31:00.430 --> 00:31:02.849
marks here but let's say alfred what's the key

00:31:02.849 --> 00:31:05.549
to podcast success distribution most guests unintentionally

00:31:05.549 --> 00:31:09.220
underperform because they never hear this about

00:31:09.220 --> 00:31:11.119
distribution. So I got to fix that copy, um,

00:31:11.259 --> 00:31:14.339
promote beforehand, just like TV series, how

00:31:14.339 --> 00:31:17.119
to hook an audience and how to, okay. So the,

00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.259
the copy reads horribly. That's my, that's my

00:31:19.259 --> 00:31:21.599
fault at this point. Um, but that's going to

00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:23.839
be easy to fix. Use Alfred to turn this interview

00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.759
into momentum, post email, copy story prompts,

00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:29.099
and a simple rollout. You can actually follow

00:31:29.099 --> 00:31:32.500
open Alfred copy all four prompts. Oh, that's

00:31:32.500 --> 00:31:36.500
frustrating. Okay. No. I don't like the layout

00:31:36.500 --> 00:31:41.680
anymore, but let's see here. Let's try it. Let's

00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:43.539
play with it. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself

00:31:43.539 --> 00:31:45.319
here and judging a little bit too harshly. So

00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:51.019
my name is Jackson. My episode topic is the seven

00:31:51.019 --> 00:31:55.799
avatars. Oh, cool. I see it loading down here.

00:31:56.700 --> 00:31:59.359
Release date. We don't know the release date.

00:32:01.380 --> 00:32:08.099
TBD. Your main link, www .firstclassbusiness

00:32:08.099 --> 00:32:20.279
.io. Okay. So we got that here. Okay. Releases

00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:25.400
to be releases. All right. So they might have

00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:26.579
to come up with something more creative there,

00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:29.920
but let's do a couple of things here. Copy all

00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:34.000
four prompts. Let's see if that works. i'm gonna

00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:44.480
open up notepad boom sweet post coming soon 24

00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.680
to 70 hours before so it's telling you when to

00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:48.579
put it i'm excited to share that i'm guesting

00:32:48.579 --> 00:32:50.779
on vision pros live we're talking about the seven

00:32:50.779 --> 00:32:53.299
avatars of business if you've been working on

00:32:53.299 --> 00:32:55.119
growth leadership or building something real

00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:59.640
this one will be worth your time drops tbd Link,

00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:02.819
firstclassbusiness .io. Oh, simple hook question.

00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:05.980
Quick question for businesses and leaders. What's

00:33:05.980 --> 00:33:07.759
the biggest thing holding you back right now

00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:11.000
in the seven avatar? Huh? That doesn't work.

00:33:11.180 --> 00:33:13.720
I'm discussing this on Vision Pros Live, and

00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:16.859
I'd love to pull real questions. Okay, get it.

00:33:16.900 --> 00:33:18.599
I understand what it's trying to do there. Episode

00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:21.289
drops TBD. Okay, so I have to figure something

00:33:21.289 --> 00:33:23.650
out better for that too. Subject, I'm on Vision

00:33:23.650 --> 00:33:26.589
Pros Live. Hey everyone, I'm excited to share

00:33:26.589 --> 00:33:27.849
that I'm guesting on Vision Pros Live to talk

00:33:27.849 --> 00:33:29.450
about the seven avatars of business. If you want

00:33:29.450 --> 00:33:32.650
the episode when it drops, here's the link, firstclassbusiness

00:33:32.650 --> 00:33:36.329
.io. I'm not sure why it's trying to pull those

00:33:36.329 --> 00:33:39.589
two things together. It releases, 2BD, Jackson.

00:33:40.309 --> 00:33:42.589
Frame one, first story, I'm recording a Vision

00:33:42.589 --> 00:33:44.150
Pros Live episode about the seven avatars of

00:33:44.150 --> 00:33:48.049
business. Frame two, interesting. If you could

00:33:48.049 --> 00:33:49.609
ask one question about the seven avatars of business,

00:33:49.769 --> 00:33:52.890
what would it be? I know people would respond,

00:33:53.049 --> 00:33:56.809
what are the seven avatars? Okay. All right.

00:33:56.910 --> 00:34:00.309
I'm cool with that. That's good progress. I can

00:34:00.309 --> 00:34:05.549
work with that to make it even more snazzy. And

00:34:05.549 --> 00:34:08.230
it makes no sense to have this button down here.

00:34:09.610 --> 00:34:15.199
And there as well. Okay. And open Alfred. And

00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.599
that is not the Alfred picture. I don't know

00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:20.559
what that is a picture of, but it's inappropriate.

00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:25.800
It offends me. All right. So over here and it

00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:28.340
does take us to Alfred. So cool. It did implement

00:34:28.340 --> 00:34:30.460
that link and let's see if it implemented the

00:34:30.460 --> 00:34:33.099
other links. Well, YouTube. Yes, it did. YouTube's

00:34:33.099 --> 00:34:34.800
correct. We don't have to click on the others.

00:34:34.860 --> 00:34:36.420
We can just look in the bottom left corner. Apple

00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:41.130
podcast. Perfect. Spotify. Perfect. And we can

00:34:41.130 --> 00:34:43.389
ask it to make these even like the color of those

00:34:43.389 --> 00:34:46.949
entities or icons for the entities. That way

00:34:46.949 --> 00:34:52.809
it's easier to see. I really am glad that I invested

00:34:52.809 --> 00:34:55.250
the time today to pull this together because

00:34:55.250 --> 00:34:59.949
what we're doing is we're separating ourselves

00:34:59.949 --> 00:35:04.110
in the market by positioning ourselves as forward

00:35:04.110 --> 00:35:07.210
-thinking podcasters. We're leading the industry.

00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:08.800
We're saying, you know what? We're not going

00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:10.260
to wait for everybody else to make cool things.

00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:12.199
We're going to make cool things and we're going

00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:13.699
to continue to upgrade and continue to make things

00:35:13.699 --> 00:35:16.780
even better. So those are big ones. Another big

00:35:16.780 --> 00:35:18.699
one, for those of you who are still listening,

00:35:18.860 --> 00:35:22.179
a piece of gold. Let's go take a look at what

00:35:22.179 --> 00:35:24.119
we've recently implemented in Division Pros Live.

00:35:24.500 --> 00:35:28.300
And we are in the process of creating this still.

00:35:28.659 --> 00:35:32.840
So one of the hardest things for me to learn

00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:37.860
in life was that it's better to... have progress,

00:35:37.940 --> 00:35:40.880
then be perfect. Um, I was a perfectionist and

00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.360
there's, and I've, I've learned to overcome that,

00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.219
but I've also learned, gone to the extreme of

00:35:45.219 --> 00:35:47.039
progress. And so for instance, on our website,

00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.699
uh, Michael Neal, man, you, Dr. Michael Neal,

00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:51.960
I like you, but you have had way too much time

00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:55.039
on my website. We, we didn't abandon the website,

00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:57.579
but we stopped doing the live streaming shows,

00:35:57.699 --> 00:36:00.619
um, for a while. And you can see we're half a

00:36:00.619 --> 00:36:02.940
year behind on putting content on the website.

00:36:03.019 --> 00:36:05.139
And that's not good. Um, that's, that's a, that's

00:36:05.139 --> 00:36:07.280
not just an Progress is better than perfect.

00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:09.219
That's like a Jackson. You've really messed that

00:36:09.219 --> 00:36:11.780
up. But this best guest thing. So we're going

00:36:11.780 --> 00:36:13.119
to skip that for now. That's going to be updated

00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:14.780
next week, by the way. We're going to get back

00:36:14.780 --> 00:36:16.320
on track with publishing our episodes on our

00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:19.820
website. But this thing was a big distraction

00:36:19.820 --> 00:36:23.420
for November, December that we thought about

00:36:23.420 --> 00:36:26.980
two years ago. And we decided that it's time

00:36:26.980 --> 00:36:28.900
to finally launch it. When I say two years ago,

00:36:28.940 --> 00:36:31.679
we literally created the design for it and all

00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:35.190
of that. And so now when you go here. man andres

00:36:35.190 --> 00:36:37.190
did such a cool job making this with vision pros

00:36:37.190 --> 00:36:43.130
uh sorry with that with ai um i'd prefer a faster

00:36:43.130 --> 00:36:49.369
intro um one that doesn't doesn't take so long

00:36:49.369 --> 00:36:52.050
but so yeah what the heck now it's not even loading

00:36:52.050 --> 00:36:54.050
it'll load in a minute though there we go finally

00:36:54.050 --> 00:36:58.590
um so what we're doing yes dr danny absolutely

00:36:58.590 --> 00:37:05.440
guests every month um so we had rules, and we're

00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:09.079
going to create an award. I'll give a shout out

00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:13.280
again to Podmatch. Podmatch does this where every

00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.780
single month they have it so well organized and

00:37:15.780 --> 00:37:19.300
executed to where they have the top 10 guests

00:37:19.300 --> 00:37:24.000
and the top 10 shows of the month. In fact, let's,

00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:25.940
let's derail. Let's go take a look at podmatch

00:37:25.940 --> 00:37:28.800
.com. See if I can log in, choosing my team who

00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:31.780
does this. So if we go into the most amazing

00:37:31.780 --> 00:37:36.710
platform in the world. log into this and come

00:37:36.710 --> 00:37:39.250
in here. You can see that we're in the top 0

00:37:39.250 --> 00:37:43.309
.7 % this month. I'm ranked number 34. And so

00:37:43.309 --> 00:37:46.530
probably partially ranked through here as a guest

00:37:46.530 --> 00:37:50.630
and probably mostly ranked as a host. Yeah, we

00:37:50.630 --> 00:37:54.590
made the top 10 hosting like almost three or

00:37:54.590 --> 00:38:00.539
four months out of the year in 2024. And then

00:38:00.539 --> 00:38:04.639
2025, we spent a ton of time working on optimizing

00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:06.920
everything that we're up to and making sure we

00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:11.179
get even better. And so this little list over

00:38:11.179 --> 00:38:14.159
here, it seems small and it seems like a tiny

00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:15.860
thing, but no, oh my gosh, like the infrastructure

00:38:15.860 --> 00:38:18.300
that it would take to build this out. I'm hoping

00:38:18.300 --> 00:38:21.059
that I can learn with my friend Alex, like how

00:38:21.059 --> 00:38:23.800
can I improve upon what is I'm doing? And I know

00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:26.119
it's going to take some investment. I'm not quite

00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:28.780
ready to make. And I know that, and that's from

00:38:28.780 --> 00:38:30.480
terms of time and money. And we put some other

00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.500
great people on here like Chad Jenkins and Sharon

00:38:32.500 --> 00:38:35.360
Roth and Rachel Edmondson and Dr. Lance Knob.

00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.699
All these people are freaking phenomenal. And

00:38:37.699 --> 00:38:41.239
so we've mentioned them as placeholders, but

00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:45.099
we've created materials as well to help make

00:38:45.099 --> 00:38:50.119
sure that the nominations and the nominees have

00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:54.920
materials to. position themselves as best guests.

00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.099
And then we're going to do virtual and physical

00:38:57.099 --> 00:38:59.860
trophies for this, um, where, and we'll probably

00:38:59.860 --> 00:39:03.940
do a physical trophy the first time for like

00:39:03.940 --> 00:39:06.159
a yearly thing. Um, then we might do a monthly

00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:08.340
thing, but we may actually, I'm looking forward

00:39:08.340 --> 00:39:10.960
to building this up into being a full -on gala

00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:15.260
experience. And so, um, this again, future podcasting,

00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:19.260
um, podcasts are going to continue to develop

00:39:19.260 --> 00:39:22.739
our industry in the same way that media. and

00:39:22.739 --> 00:39:25.719
film and Emmys and Oscars and all that have for

00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:27.699
their industries as well. And, and we do have

00:39:27.699 --> 00:39:30.000
entities out there who are doing it at a scale

00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:33.539
where it's, it's more of a more institutional,

00:39:33.579 --> 00:39:38.219
but I haven't seen many podcasts implement this

00:39:38.219 --> 00:39:40.679
type of strategy yet. And then we're tying this,

00:39:40.699 --> 00:39:42.539
as you saw on that page, we kind of sneak peek

00:39:42.539 --> 00:39:45.880
revealed it. We're building out a new community

00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:48.760
called first class podcasts and the first class

00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:52.239
podcast community. We'll be connecting. great

00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.400
guests with great hosts as well. So a lot of

00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:58.119
fun things to come with that. And a lot of, a

00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:00.139
lot of pieces being built out. One of the final

00:40:00.139 --> 00:40:01.739
pieces that I'll share is I'm recording this

00:40:01.739 --> 00:40:06.119
in a studio that has what's called a universal

00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.119
ID link. And I'm really happy about that too.

00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:11.420
We should have implemented it a couple of months

00:40:11.420 --> 00:40:13.400
ago. We just didn't take the time. I prioritize

00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.579
other things instead. But my team and I today

00:40:16.579 --> 00:40:18.800
during our, our level up, calm down meeting,

00:40:18.860 --> 00:40:20.750
that's our. It's kind of like our back office

00:40:20.750 --> 00:40:22.989
lunch meeting where we're still productive, but

00:40:22.989 --> 00:40:24.630
we can even sometimes break out in karaoke or

00:40:24.630 --> 00:40:26.349
something and do something fun. But it allows

00:40:26.349 --> 00:40:29.900
for us to not dread Fridays. It allows for us

00:40:29.900 --> 00:40:31.400
to, once we come back from lunch, like we're

00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:33.079
like all centered and happy and ready to talk.

00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:34.519
And we're not allowed to talk about anything

00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:38.019
stressful or anything fire oriented. And then

00:40:38.019 --> 00:40:40.519
everybody has a workday happy. Mike goes off

00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.320
and finishes their stuff well, because they didn't

00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:44.739
like, we're not trying to burn rubber going into

00:40:44.739 --> 00:40:46.559
our weekend. And it's a good time for me to also

00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:48.619
make sure that I can check in on emotional posts,

00:40:48.699 --> 00:40:52.059
the emotional pulse of my team members, because

00:40:52.059 --> 00:40:54.119
I want to go into Friday knowing that everybody's

00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:56.119
going to their work weekend happy. And the way

00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:57.480
that does is everybody wants to come back to

00:40:57.480 --> 00:40:59.670
work on Monday or Tuesday. In this case, my Columbia

00:40:59.670 --> 00:41:01.250
team will be on holiday on Monday. So come back

00:41:01.250 --> 00:41:03.289
on Tuesday, but everybody will come back that

00:41:03.289 --> 00:41:05.590
much more reinvigorated and ready to go and excited

00:41:05.590 --> 00:41:09.530
to work. So another secret for building organizations,

00:41:10.110 --> 00:41:12.550
building a podcast. Oh my gosh, work on your

00:41:12.550 --> 00:41:14.289
infrastructure, build your team. It's a team

00:41:14.289 --> 00:41:18.570
process. Okay. So where was I? We were talking

00:41:18.570 --> 00:41:20.829
about first -class podcasts and the network and

00:41:20.829 --> 00:41:22.550
we were, oh, the change that we just made is

00:41:22.550 --> 00:41:26.920
the universal ID. One of the biggest challenges

00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:28.900
that we've had, and I'm so grateful for Team

00:41:28.900 --> 00:41:31.699
4, is we had to create a new studio link for

00:41:31.699 --> 00:41:34.719
a long time because there wasn't a universal

00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:36.619
studio link. And that meant that we couldn't

00:41:36.619 --> 00:41:40.059
tie our studio link. to our podcast bookings,

00:41:40.059 --> 00:41:42.420
we had to do it manually. And so that made a

00:41:42.420 --> 00:41:44.380
lot of back and forth and it frustrated guests

00:41:44.380 --> 00:41:47.539
to the nth degree. Um, and it, it did affect

00:41:47.539 --> 00:41:49.000
their reputation quite a bit. Cause it's just

00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:50.920
hard to manage. We've got three different hosts

00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:53.300
and some of those things cancel and trying to

00:41:53.300 --> 00:41:56.860
manage all of the chaos of reservations with

00:41:56.860 --> 00:42:00.280
that many people. Um, like it was nuts. Um, and

00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.800
so we, you know, we, we took a beating a little

00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.139
bit, um, and we probably deserved it. So it was

00:42:05.139 --> 00:42:12.769
a this uh benefit four or five months ago and

00:42:12.769 --> 00:42:14.070
i was so excited to implement it but we just

00:42:14.070 --> 00:42:16.730
didn't have time so today danielle i'll give

00:42:16.730 --> 00:42:18.230
her shout out she brought it up and i was like

00:42:18.230 --> 00:42:20.329
you know what let's do it now and we did it and

00:42:20.329 --> 00:42:22.150
we got it implemented and we got all the confirmation

00:42:22.150 --> 00:42:24.610
emails adjusted and we got the link set up for

00:42:24.610 --> 00:42:26.670
sue and myself or the two co -hosts right now

00:42:26.670 --> 00:42:30.530
um we got the um we gotta implement everything

00:42:30.530 --> 00:42:32.110
else and that's where we came across the confirmation

00:42:32.110 --> 00:42:34.530
page it's like okay time to upgrade the confirmation

00:42:34.530 --> 00:42:37.550
page two Um, and the next thing we'll be doing

00:42:37.550 --> 00:42:41.269
is creating the newsletter. Shout out to the

00:42:41.269 --> 00:42:44.510
accidental entrepreneur. Uh, Mitch runs a great

00:42:44.510 --> 00:42:48.150
show. Um, I love his processes. And so we, um,

00:42:48.230 --> 00:42:50.809
I I'm always intrigued. His emails always come

00:42:50.809 --> 00:42:53.570
out. Hey, the episode is out and I always have

00:42:53.570 --> 00:42:55.889
to click to see who it is. Oh, no, it's like,

00:42:55.889 --> 00:42:59.650
it's a really clean. email to honor and represent

00:42:59.650 --> 00:43:03.750
his guests um and so we're uh we're using mitch's

00:43:03.750 --> 00:43:05.309
materials to model that and say you know what

00:43:05.309 --> 00:43:06.829
we want to be a little bit more like mitch like

00:43:06.829 --> 00:43:09.769
like the accidental entrepreneur um get our newsletter

00:43:09.769 --> 00:43:12.409
going and also get that announcement out because

00:43:12.409 --> 00:43:15.030
that's one of the big pieces is distribution

00:43:15.030 --> 00:43:18.170
before and after the episode airs um you know

00:43:18.170 --> 00:43:20.110
it's not just about the moment the episode airs

00:43:20.110 --> 00:43:22.150
it's actually about all the things that lead

00:43:22.150 --> 00:43:24.880
up to And all of the things that transpire after

00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:27.739
the fact, soon as The Walking Dead has finished

00:43:27.739 --> 00:43:30.760
filming, they have tons of work to do to promote,

00:43:30.860 --> 00:43:32.099
promote, promote, promote, promote, promote,

00:43:32.099 --> 00:43:33.679
promote, promote, promote that same episode,

00:43:33.820 --> 00:43:35.860
even though they've seen it, even though they

00:43:35.860 --> 00:43:38.079
lived it for hours on end and they're probably

00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:40.300
sick of it. It's like you've got to promote it

00:43:40.300 --> 00:43:43.800
thousands of times for millions of people to

00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.280
go watch it. And so the same thing exists with

00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:48.500
podcasts. And I think this year there's going

00:43:48.500 --> 00:43:52.179
to be some massive movement in terms of distribution.

00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:54.440
And it's going to be really interesting to see

00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.159
how we all respond to that. Many of us who've

00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.599
studied this manually for so long are also going

00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:00.960
to feel a little bit bitter about it. I think

00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:02.179
it's going to be bittersweet where it's like,

00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:05.760
oh my gosh, finally. And like, where was this

00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.960
the last 12 years of our life as we built? And

00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:11.219
now a lot of the strategies and systems that

00:44:11.219 --> 00:44:13.480
we've created are becoming obsolete, but that's

00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:15.760
why the process of evolution is so important.

00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:17.719
That's why it's so important to continue to learn

00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:19.719
and to see where else can we provide value and

00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.139
what else can we do? There is truly an never

00:44:22.139 --> 00:44:25.199
ending opportunity. And I think it's escaping

00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:28.260
that American dream of like retiring and doing

00:44:28.260 --> 00:44:30.079
nothing that leaves people miserable and bored.

00:44:30.340 --> 00:44:33.079
No, we don't want that. We do want to be. be

00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:34.920
progressive. We do want to learn new things.

00:44:34.980 --> 00:44:37.199
And so as an industry, there's still going to

00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:38.920
be plenty of things that we get to learn, but

00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:40.639
I think there's going to be some really, really

00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:44.719
big movements this year that are perhaps a bit

00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.079
unsettling for most people and that are also

00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:53.739
good surprises for, for leaders who are ready

00:44:53.739 --> 00:44:57.039
to embrace the new reality. And so this year,

00:44:57.079 --> 00:44:59.480
again, I think, I think AI will help us crack

00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:03.039
certain distribution codes. And I think we'll

00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:05.980
start to see more mainstream implementation with

00:45:05.980 --> 00:45:12.780
AI of AI's capability of managing tasks. If you're

00:45:12.780 --> 00:45:13.980
a guru out there and you're like, oh, I know

00:45:13.980 --> 00:45:16.340
how to do all that, come and show us, man. We

00:45:16.340 --> 00:45:19.119
want you on Vision Pros. We want to see what's

00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:23.179
possible because moving beyond basic filtering

00:45:23.179 --> 00:45:27.579
in emails, for instance, for me to be able to

00:45:27.579 --> 00:45:31.059
trust an AI to jump in and engage with correspondence.

00:45:32.339 --> 00:45:34.260
I don't think we're quite there yet. I haven't

00:45:34.260 --> 00:45:36.599
seen it yet. If you have, again, drop it in the

00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:39.239
comments. I've seen a lot of people try to drop

00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:40.739
this stuff in the comments and it turns out it's

00:45:40.739 --> 00:45:43.699
not really what we were hoping for, but we're

00:45:43.699 --> 00:45:46.019
getting there. And so I am eager to see it and

00:45:46.019 --> 00:45:49.599
find it and implement it because if we can take

00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:54.280
as many tasks as possible off of... the the drowning

00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:56.840
entrepreneur and the drowning team members then

00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:58.420
of course that frees them up to be able to do

00:45:58.420 --> 00:46:00.760
other things and hopefully humans will choose

00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:03.480
to do great things with our time um hopefully

00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:06.019
we'll step into things like building gardens

00:46:06.019 --> 00:46:08.019
um you know that would be cool how many of you

00:46:08.019 --> 00:46:10.320
know how to garden um you know and have built

00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:13.139
a sustainable garden um you know i i'm laughing

00:46:13.139 --> 00:46:14.820
with you i'm not laughing at you i haven't done

00:46:14.820 --> 00:46:17.059
that i've got my marigold um that's that's growing

00:46:17.059 --> 00:46:21.349
but um i would like to i would like to see Not

00:46:21.349 --> 00:46:23.869
just myself. I'd like to be able to empower more

00:46:23.869 --> 00:46:27.070
people on earth to be able to spend more quality

00:46:27.070 --> 00:46:30.750
time doing the things that they love, expanding

00:46:30.750 --> 00:46:34.369
their spiritual well -being, their mental well

00:46:34.369 --> 00:46:37.329
-being, and their physical well -being. And in

00:46:37.329 --> 00:46:39.909
order to do that, we have to create systems that

00:46:39.909 --> 00:46:42.909
create sustainable revenues. And as we create

00:46:42.909 --> 00:46:44.530
more and more sustainable revenues for ourselves

00:46:44.530 --> 00:46:47.789
and for others, the more abundant we put ourselves

00:46:47.789 --> 00:46:52.150
in a position, well, the more... abundant we

00:46:52.150 --> 00:46:54.269
end up in in life the more likely that we can

00:46:54.269 --> 00:46:56.309
go about doing the things that are most important

00:46:56.309 --> 00:46:58.409
like connecting with family connecting with friends

00:46:58.409 --> 00:47:03.110
um producing results for our own bodies um you

00:47:03.110 --> 00:47:05.090
know for those around us and making this world

00:47:05.090 --> 00:47:08.210
a better place so that's my hope um and that's

00:47:08.210 --> 00:47:11.829
my view of the immediate future of podcasting

00:47:11.829 --> 00:47:13.449
and what's on the horizon and i i hope that you

00:47:13.449 --> 00:47:15.789
guys all benefit tremendously from the different

00:47:15.789 --> 00:47:17.630
things that we talked about and looked at here

00:47:17.630 --> 00:47:21.179
and if um podcasting It's something you want

00:47:21.179 --> 00:47:23.519
to explore. I also recommend being a guest on

00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:25.400
different podcasts. That could be a great way

00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:27.019
to explore whether you might want to do it or

00:47:27.019 --> 00:47:31.679
not. And know that you're going to get out of

00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:35.440
it what you put into it ultimately. That is pretty

00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:38.059
much, I would say, a pretty universal truth.

00:47:38.139 --> 00:47:39.260
You don't necessarily understand what you get

00:47:39.260 --> 00:47:41.880
out of it, but you may get a lot of education

00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:44.480
out of it initially. You may then get some profitability

00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:48.260
out of it. wildly rich and handsome and successful

00:47:48.260 --> 00:47:51.059
or gorgeous as you do this. But I wish all the

00:47:51.059 --> 00:47:52.900
good things for you. And I look forward to seeing

00:47:52.900 --> 00:47:54.340
you guys in the future. Don't hesitate to reach

00:47:54.340 --> 00:47:57.300
out and ask for specific help or specific feedback.

00:47:57.380 --> 00:47:59.440
And of course, we're always open to specific

00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:02.159
feedback. And if you like, subscribe, share this

00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:03.940
with others who you think would value it. And

00:48:03.940 --> 00:48:05.760
of course, I would be greatly appreciative of

00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:07.429
that. Have a good one. Bye -bye. Thank you for

00:48:07.429 --> 00:48:09.429
being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned

00:48:09.429 --> 00:48:11.730
in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to

00:48:11.730 --> 00:48:14.969
seeing your reactions as these episodes continue

00:48:14.969 --> 00:48:16.789
to move forward. This is going to get more and

00:48:16.789 --> 00:48:18.789
more fun. We'll have more and more engagement

00:48:18.789 --> 00:48:20.909
as well. We'll invite people to participate in

00:48:20.909 --> 00:48:23.090
the show and thank you for giving us your time

00:48:23.090 --> 00:48:25.389
and attention. Have an excellent time building

00:48:25.389 --> 00:48:27.710
out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.