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really excited because most of our clients, most

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of our network, they need the type of coach that

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you are. Well, yeah. Wouldn't it be great? Everyone

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needs a coach. I've got it. I'll raise the bar

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on that. This man behind me is LeBron James.

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How many coaches does LeBron have? Well, my God,

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if you're his coach, then he's... No, I said

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I'll raise the bar on how many coaches he has.

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I hear this phrase a lot in the market. It makes

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me sad. I hear so many people say, I already

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have a coach. And I'm like, you know how many

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coaches, Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg? You

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get it. That's why I just said, in fact, I've

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got a whole ton of coaches. And I've got one

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of the most brilliant medical wizards. I mean,

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he won the equivalent of the Nobel Prize for

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chemistry. I mean, he's a geneticist. I mean,

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brilliant. I'm surrounded by these people. We

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all support each other. We coach each other.

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I coach some of them. They coach me. Then, of

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course, I get to pass it on to my clients. Exactly.

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We're on the same page. 100%, man. Probably read

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all the same books. Your first book was 12 years

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old. I got Think and Grow Rich and Psycho -Cybernetics.

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That's big. I got an album the next year by Earl

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Nightingale, The Strangest Secret. And so by

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then I was hooked. At the age of 13, I ended

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up actually going out because that album got

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used up, scratched up. And then I got it when

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it was a cassette, when it was an eight track,

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every version of that CD. And I got a hold of

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the original Mint album in its original packaging

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from the Earl Nightingale's The Strangest Secret.

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And I'm going to frame that sucker and put up

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on my wall and say, that's how we get there.

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That's amazing. You can't learn everything the

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hard way. It shows that you've definitely been

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consuming that content for a long time. You'll

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appreciate this a little bit. Then I keep this

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on my desk. I probably shouldn't. I love it.

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This is a little golden book from Dale Carnegie.

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And it is an original OG lead magnet, right?

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From 1936. Oh, that's, I have, so I winter in

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Michigan, but my primary residence is in Scottsdale.

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And that's where all my stuff is, all my good

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stuff. Because I was like, oh, I'm going to go

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grab my original. I thought, oh, wait a minute.

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They're all, they're not here. All my comfort

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books. Well, Mark, I'm glad we I really am. I'm

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glad that we had this happen the way that it

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did, because I want to make sure that we fully

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honor you in the process of the interview and

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talk a little bit about that. So beyond the wealth

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is a phenomenal conversation topic. And I know

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we'd only booked this for 30 minutes. I'm happy

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to take another 30 minutes, you know, if you

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have the time and place and if it makes sense,

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because I mean, that in the 10 minutes, it would

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be possible. But I think there's a bigger opportunity

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at hand. And I'd like to make sure that we talk

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about that. Is that okay? I would absolutely

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love that. I can tell you just the reality part

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alone. They've been trying to teach that for

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3 ,000 years. Lao Tzu was trying to teach it.

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Socrates, Plato, the allegory of the cave. They

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have been trying to teach the nature of reality

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for 3 ,000 years and still haven't pulled it

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off. If you think about it. Socrates was teaching

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the nature of reality at the same time as he

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was teaching that the earth is round. And so

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people think that that came way later. Well,

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it didn't go mainstream until 800 years later.

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But he had already figured out that the earth

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had to be round. He's looking at the shadows

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on the moon. And he had figured out that the

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sun was not a Greek god named Helios who was

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flying around in a burning, flaming chariot,

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but rather that the sun was staying still and

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we were spinning. And everybody's like, you are

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out of your mind. As brilliant as he was, they

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didn't buy that the earth was round, the sun

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was spinning around us, or that we create reality

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within our minds. And the only reality we'll

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ever know is a subjective reality based on our

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perceptions and interpretations. But 3 ,000 years

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later, well, the whole world accepts that the

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earth is round, the sun is going around, and

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they've been doing that for like 1 ,500 years.

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And they still... In fact, I went to GPT -5 and

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asked it, what percentage of the planet do you

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think actually accepts and lives an intentional

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life based on the principles that the only reality

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any of us will ever truly understand or experience

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is our own interpretation of the physical world,

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is our own subjective reality? And it said maximum

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one to three percent. I said, now, what percentage?

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believes that the earth is round and it said

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99 .99%. I was like, and which of them do you

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think actually has a greater impact on our life?

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The fact that the earth is round doesn't have

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a real impact on me. That's a really good point.

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That's fun. You know what I mean? I'm not hooking

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myself to the ground every time we tip upside

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down. I mean, I could have gone through a whole

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life without knowing the earth was round. Here's

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some fun data for you. I need to find the screenshot

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for you. I was doing a really deep dive about

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six months ago, a chat on transformational versus

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transactional leadership. And I was creating

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an assessment that people can't tell which side

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they're leaning towards as they're taking this

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culture quiz. Right. And so I got diving deeper

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and deeper into our core values with it of love,

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patience, persistence, consistence and reliability.

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And so we're diving so far deep into this that

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I finally am like. Okay, because ChatGPT is just,

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it's like learning left and right. And it's kind

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of placating me over and over in very, very big,

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but sincere ways and tying stuff to Patrick Lanchoni

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and John Maxwell and Pat. And I'm going, okay,

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so what percentage of users have conversations

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like this with you? And at first it was like,

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well, I said, in what type of data? It's like,

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well, I can't reveal the actual data. And it

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says, but in terms of emotional, intelligent

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conversations of this magnitude. zero point zero

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zero zero zero zero zero one percent isn't it

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oh go ahead go ahead this is i love hearing this

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i mean it basically boiled down to there's about

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800 people on earth yeah it's both incredibly

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validating it's like wow okay i i'm rocking it

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and then it's also just Just horrifically discouraging

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because so the whole world is basically still

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in the dark ages. Yeah. Have you you got to know

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who Stanley Milgram is. Right. Did you see the

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experiment of the movie? Oh, this is so cool.

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Oh, my gosh. Mark, I'm not going to ruin the

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movie for you because it is it is Christopher

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Nolan level like. Mind -bending. But Stanley

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Milgram, I had no idea who this was. And only

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because of the movie, I know. It's about the

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scientist who is doing electric shock treatments

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to people in the 60s, 70s. And he's the same

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sociologist who proved the reality that we're

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only six degrees of separation, which is now

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we're only three degrees of separation. But the

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movie puts you in the position. of, okay, this

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guy, wait a second, is he actually doing what

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the world's accusing him of doing? Or is the

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media twisting this reality so that everybody

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fears and everybody has this feeling? And is

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his process, is what he's doing changing the

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world forever by opening our eyes up to a state

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of self -awareness? Or is he just this crazy

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nut job who's hurting people? It is the most

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mind, and I don't want to ruin the movie for

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you. Oh, I have to see it. What's the name of

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this? It's called The Experimenter. Oh, my gosh.

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Okay. And it is literally one of the best guides

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for human beings to catch the reality of what

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you and I already appreciate. It is so masterful

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how they do that movie. You know what? Of course,

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being a filmmaker. I use films constantly in

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my teachings because you can get, you get the

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backstory, you get the foreshadowing, you get

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all in a 30 second clip or just describing, you

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know, that scene where Neo has to decide between

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the blue pill and the red pill. Well, this is

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that moment for you. Are you ready? Oh my gosh.

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We are in such alignment. I have a word for it.

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It's called EGO. There you go. I mean, what you're

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doing is so unique and original. I have a whole

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thing about no more letting ego hijack your life.

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And so we're teaching the same lesson in just

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in different ways, but you get it. There is that

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separate entity, that ego entity, that if it

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hijacks your life, the conversation you're about

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to have is not going to be a conversation because

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ego just wants to look good, win, be right. It's

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just going to be an argument if their ego engages.

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Yeah. We have 8 billion people to help on this

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earth, don't we? And doing that alone is just

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not my ambition. You know what? I hear you. I

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don't have the bandwidth. Well, that's what my

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whole mission statement is, to raise human consciousness

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on a global scale. And people go, oh, okay, well,

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yeah. How are you going to do that? And I go,

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well, it's not by myself, I'll tell you that.

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See, and that's huge because my vision is to

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bridge the economic gap between North America,

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South America, and the rest of the world. Oh,

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wow. And so I absolutely love what you're doing.

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And it's so necessary. I don't have that. I don't

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have that skill set and talent at that level.

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I have the appreciation for what you do. 100%.

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I have the appreciation for what's possible.

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Oh, I have a feeling. You have the understanding.

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You have a few other things. I can hear it. It's

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going to be fun. So Mark, we've been planning

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this for a while for having you on the show again

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and for moving forward. And I'm grateful that

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we are going to get to gamify some of this process

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to be able to work together on releasing not

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just a killer episode and perhaps a series that

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ends up inspiring people, but to also look at

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what I really wanted to look at today as I got

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your email about Beyond Wealth. and so we'll

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we'll edit what we want out of this episode as

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i got that email i i had a meditation with myself

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on okay how do i um how do i make sure i prepare

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well for this so that we honor the process of

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being able to give your whole value to the audience

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so they can eat that up and use it for their

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lives and how do i make sure that i have an impact

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on you as well to where we can reach even more

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people with an even more powerful strategy because

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It's a good idea that the podcast world often

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leans into, but that doesn't make it a great

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idea for distribution and a great idea for long

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-term big success. I wanted to take the time

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to talk to you about the strategy of positioning

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yourself, myself, the show, the experience for

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the audience so that we don't fall into the same

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trap that most podcasts fall into that leads

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to this perpetual process of busy. broke noise

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yeah and just disseminating information there's

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more information out there than a than you could

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absorb in a thousand lifetimes so do you mind

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if i share with you what where that comes from

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yeah i'd love that okay um i have a lot of string

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of of good fortune due to putting myself or god

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putting me in the right places um right that

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led to a path where i ended up at video power

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marketing and my very first strategy session

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when i was with jake larson there um i i didn't

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want to take strategy sessions by the way that

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was not my idea of fun yet um i he was already

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known as the youtube ad expert of the world we

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had a minimum client spend was ten thousand dollars

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per month on youtube ads this was in 2013. youtube

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wasn't popular You were spending $100 ,000 on

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Facebook and Google and traditional marketing

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if you came and spent with us. Or you were just

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like a crazy raw experimenter like John Lee Dumas

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of Entrepreneur on Fire who spent with us or

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Dan Martell of SaaS Academy. There were some

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early adopters who came in and could see the

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vision. But most people and them were in phenomenal,

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successful positions. And so they'd come into

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this strategy session with Jake, the guy, the

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YouTube expert of the world. I mean, he was crowned

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by the founder of YouTube. as one of the 10 ambassadors

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of YouTube. And so they would come in and they'd

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spend $497 to meet with Jake. So when I had to

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take that first session where they were going

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to meet with just Jackson, who they didn't know,

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and I was not part of the funnel and I was not

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part of the experience. And my very first session

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was with a guy named Dr. Eric Berg. And the last

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thing I wanted to meet was somebody who might

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be pretentious, who was a doctor is going to

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be like, what do you know? You know, where's

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Jake? Why is Jake not here? I paid $4 .99 not

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to meet you. You know, I had no idea. I was terrified.

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And I also happen to be very direct. And I was

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far less diplomatic then than I am now. So Eric

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is coming on and I'm terrified because of what

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I have to reveal to him when he's not ready to

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scale. And this is a guy who has 160 ,000 subscribers

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on YouTube already. And he's a doctor. So who

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am I? again just jackson to talk to him about

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this so he comes on and you know i say hey dr

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berg how are you and and he says he says i'm

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doing well jackson i know he sees a name and

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he addressed me real nice and and he says just

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call me eric and i say okay dr eric berg um you

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know i'm i'm excited to dive in he said he let

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me finish and he goes he said jackson it's just

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eric you know i'm looking forward to this And

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I'm like, man, he's just melting my soul as a

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leader. I didn't know what was happening. I was

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just excited. I was just like finally calm. But

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I still have to reveal some truth to him. So

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I said, okay, we can't run ads for you right

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now because of a number of things that need to

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be adjusted on your end. And we want you to be

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successful. But we need you to make these adjustments

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in order for your ads. to be victorious, to be

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able to convert people. And I said, okay, great.

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So I saw he had his little pen and his paper

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and he's moving for that. It's like, okay, go

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ahead, Jackson. What do you got? And I said,

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so number one, the colors on your branding are

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bright yellow and bright red, which screams caution

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and stop signs and danger. And he's like, oh,

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that's good. So do you guys do branding and stuff

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like that? I'm like, no, we just do the video.

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And he's like, okay, well, give me three days.

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I'll fix it. I'm like, okay, cool. He's not.

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Mark, 90 % of business owners argue with me about

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crap like that. All the time. And so I'm like,

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oh, very good. He heard that. So he said, okay,

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number two. He was not attached. You're going

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to go to a bunch of restaurants this year. How

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many more newsletters do you want from restaurants?

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He said, none. Nobody wants your newsletter.

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Yep. what do I do? And I said, you got to create

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an irresistible offer. Something that really

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gives people the reason to want to give you their

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private information. And I was like, okay, I

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got an assistant. I can do that. I can do that.

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And then Jackson's normal self comes out. And

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I say, can I just be blunt with you? Yeah. I

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said, I wouldn't touch your website with a 10

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foot pole. I would never go to it. I would never

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send friends and family to it. If I put my information

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in that site, it looks like somebody is going

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to steal my identity next. It is awful. You are

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not going to win with that website. And Eric

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says, okay, give me three days. I don't know

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how he did it, but the man came back with a completely

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overhauled brand. His brand then looked a lot

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more like yours. Your brand's actually really

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nice. You got a lot of things going on for your

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brand. And so he makes that shift. And of course,

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he's invested in the ad strategies. For those

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of you who don't know, Dr. Eric Berg is a Google

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search away. the man has gone from 160 000 subscribers

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to i think over 13 million subscribers um at

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this point i don't know very many naturopaths

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who don't know and follow what dr eric berg is

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up to so i didn't do that yeah eric did that

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but he did that by plugging in to the strategists

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by making sure that he knew and understood how

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positioning and strategy and scale there's a

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science to it And when you buy into that and

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when you keep moving towards that, you can bless

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people at the level that he's blessing people

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at. I see you, Mark Fournier. You have Dr. Eric

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Berg in you. You have that. You've already been

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on the stages, too. You've already built a lot

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of things. You have the ability to lead beyond

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those levels. Hey, I love hearing that. I love

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the validation. I intend to live into that and

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live up to that. And thank you. Yeah, absolutely.

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The little buzz came back for a second. I don't

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know what happened, but it went away again. I

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think you put your hand on something possibly.

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Oh, yeah. And that's all right. We'll figure

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that out. But The Diary of a CEO, you've heard

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of that show with Stephen Bartlett? I have not

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watched it. I haven't seen a single episode.

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I've never seen a full episode. I'm not a consumer.

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I'm a producer. I don't recommend it, but I do

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recommend it. I just now added that to my next

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event. Do your best to watch a tiny fragment

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of that show and escape. Get out. Do everything

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you can not to fall into that funnel because

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it is so good. It is so irresistible the way

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he does that content. And that's the type of

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interview, Dr. Fournier, that you really need.

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That type where you're back and forth with Stephen

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Bartlett. There we go, Mark. So we, one, I got

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another show called the Be Your Best Show. And

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the Be Your Best Show is designed to, I want

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to eventually do those types of interviews, these

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two to three hour sit downs, where we dive deep

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into things like beyond wealth. And we go back

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and forth on the subject. Obviously, everybody

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knows that I'm just the interviewer. And everybody

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knows that you are the one who's created the

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package on that, but that, that to honor what

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you have and what you've built, we cannot wham,

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bam. Thank you, ma 'am. That process. Yeah. There's

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lots of podcasters who will do that for you to

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their audience, but we're trying to do things

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for our audience with you. Yeah. You, you want

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to transform lives. That's why I stopped doing.

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my stage work I thought you know what certainly

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not in a 20 -minute keynote and not even in a

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two -hour training session I'm not going to transform

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someone's life to the degree that I have in my

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heart and to the degree that they have that they're

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that they're hoping for in that period of time

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I mean we're we're replacing decades of conditioning

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and thoughts and beliefs that But during those

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periods, we can stimulate their curiosity. We

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can inspire them to dig more deeply. But then

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we'd better send them somewhere where they can,

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which is why I do my one -on -one coaching, because

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I realize that what I really want to do with

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a client is it's going to take me a year. And

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that means I only coach 10 clients per year.

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And so then what do I do? How am I going to raise

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consciousness on a global scale if I'm only coaching

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10 clients per year? Well, for one, my 10 clients

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are ultra high net worth, very powerful people.

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And there's a prerequisite that they agree that

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they will start and run a humanitarian philanthropic

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program. And of course, then they use their resources,

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which are. enormous. And so I spread it out that

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way. But then the rest of it is, that's Limitless

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University. It's a 501c3. And it's basically

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everything that I'm not providing directly to

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that 10 clients per year, I give it away, all

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of it. The podcast we're doing right now, I want

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the whole world to be aware of the power we have

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to change the world by changing our own lives.

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Because in the end, You know, enlightened people

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don't abuse. Enlightened people, they don't abuse

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themselves. They don't abuse others. They don't

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abuse the planet. They don't allow abuse within

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their area of influence. That's right. And so,

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my goodness, if we could just tip that scale.

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Huge. Tribal leadership helped me open my eyes

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to that too. On the 2 % of companies around that

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life is abundant. And you're absolutely right.

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If we can tip that scale, then we can also unlock

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the reality of 96 % of entrepreneurs fail within

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10 years, 4 % survive. What if we took it from

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a 4 % survival to even a 6 %? What if we took

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it to where more people thrived? And how do we

00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:03.839
recognize the brands that have survived it and

00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:06.039
thrived it in an ethical fashion versus those

00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:08.079
who may not have, right? There's such a small

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piece. So we have so many opportunities and that

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pill process. right that we just went through

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that little fun game i love the game but last

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tuesday to create that last tuesday i discovered

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i discovered the ability to start creating those

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and it took me about that's still raw it's still

00:22:25.380 --> 00:22:27.779
not finished but that that that whole process

00:22:27.779 --> 00:22:32.160
took me four to five hours to create that was

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it isn't it great it's just so fast actually

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do you realize the dopamine we are getting When

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I actually went in and asked, I said, listen,

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I'm a morning person. I'm up working at 530 in

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the morning, and I am fried by 6 o 'clock. I

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mean, I've put in 12 hours, and at my energy

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level, I mean, the bandwidth is blown. I'm pretty

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maniacal. Well, and I got into AI, and now I'm

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up 10 o 'clock, 11 o 'clock, 12 o 'clock, and

00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:03.619
I'm just going. And I said, what's happening

00:23:03.619 --> 00:23:06.299
here? And of course, I gave it my entire profile.

00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:10.140
I wanted it to know every detail. And by the

00:23:10.140 --> 00:23:12.819
way, it will give you different answers once

00:23:12.819 --> 00:23:15.400
it knows who you are. But you got to say, commit

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this to persistent memory. Those two words. Otherwise,

00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:21.720
it'll forget you from chat to chat. But if you

00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:25.059
want to go across all the chats and your agents

00:23:25.059 --> 00:23:27.700
and your projects, you say, I want this committed

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to persistent memory. And I spent about three

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days feeding it. my websites, books, everything.

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So it would understand me inside and out. And

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so at a certain point, I was able to say, now

00:23:43.109 --> 00:23:45.329
we're going to start kicking some butt. And so

00:23:45.329 --> 00:23:49.349
it knows that I've got OCD. I've got ADHD. I

00:23:49.349 --> 00:23:53.549
am what's called negative, negative comp. So

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I don't produce enough dopamine. And the dopamine

00:23:55.769 --> 00:23:58.809
I do produce gets used up instantly. And oh,

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by the way, almost all my clients are the same.

00:24:01.870 --> 00:24:05.730
There's a correlation between successful entrepreneurs

00:24:05.730 --> 00:24:11.750
and low dopamine and ADD and ADHD because those

00:24:11.750 --> 00:24:14.970
are also dopamine related. And so we're out there

00:24:14.970 --> 00:24:18.150
getting our dopamine every time we conquer the

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next whatever it is. And so it came back and

00:24:20.849 --> 00:24:23.089
it said the reason why you're putting in these

00:24:23.089 --> 00:24:25.710
18 -hour days is because you are getting so much

00:24:25.710 --> 00:24:28.369
dopamine. You're used to a project taking three

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weeks from the day you think of it or three months.

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And you and I are doing it in three hours. And

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there's nothing that feels better than that to

00:24:37.130 --> 00:24:40.269
a creator, to a producer, is to think of something

00:24:40.269 --> 00:24:43.130
and it's already done three hours later. It's

00:24:43.130 --> 00:24:45.069
like, I can hardly wait to finish our podcast

00:24:45.069 --> 00:24:48.190
so I can go do that some more. Exactly, exactly.

00:24:49.910 --> 00:24:52.509
It is something that is so interesting to pass

00:24:52.509 --> 00:24:54.410
through. Visionaries, those of you listening

00:24:54.410 --> 00:24:59.150
in right now, we just had a masterclass on building

00:24:59.150 --> 00:25:03.519
a foundation. for our relationship with AI that

00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:06.420
we use. And I'm going to take that up one more

00:25:06.420 --> 00:25:11.380
notch. How many of us are feeding our team members

00:25:11.380 --> 00:25:16.039
and our loved ones that same level of information

00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:18.980
about who we are? More importantly, how many

00:25:18.980 --> 00:25:21.339
of us are diving in and trying to understand

00:25:21.339 --> 00:25:25.599
their information, who they are? We have so much

00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:27.819
opportunity to dive into that and to realize

00:25:27.819 --> 00:25:31.700
that, yes, while we can feed ChatGPT as though

00:25:31.700 --> 00:25:34.059
any responsible billion -dollar company would

00:25:34.059 --> 00:25:36.619
for their new assistants, they would put them

00:25:36.619 --> 00:25:39.400
in training programs for days, weeks, months

00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:42.240
to make sure they're on point. When are we going

00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:43.880
to start doing that for the people around us?

00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.660
Oh, I love it. So much opportunity. You know,

00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:49.819
it's one of the first requirements as well when

00:25:49.819 --> 00:25:51.539
I start coaching with someone is I say, listen,

00:25:51.700 --> 00:25:55.240
the three fastest ways to master something. It's

00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:57.759
not sexy, but I figured it out after studying

00:25:57.759 --> 00:26:01.180
everyone from spelling bee contest winners to

00:26:01.180 --> 00:26:04.480
the military to musicians to artists to the best

00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:09.220
of the best. What did they do? How did they master?

00:26:09.420 --> 00:26:10.960
And there were just three simple things. One,

00:26:11.220 --> 00:26:13.640
when you learn something, I mean, if possible,

00:26:13.740 --> 00:26:15.500
before you go to bed tonight, because your brain

00:26:15.500 --> 00:26:18.599
is purging stuff constantly, find some way to

00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:21.140
apply it to your life. Find some way because

00:26:21.140 --> 00:26:23.000
your brain will say, oh, well, he's putting this

00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.779
to use. This must be important. The other simple

00:26:25.779 --> 00:26:27.960
thing throughout the week, as long as you can

00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:31.039
spaced repetition. Now, I'm not talking about

00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:34.880
like I will not, you know, stick gum on the wall

00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.960
a hundred times in a row. No, it's you say you

00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.140
write it one time and then tomorrow you're going

00:26:40.140 --> 00:26:42.059
to write it again and you can do it for 100 days.

00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:45.920
So it's when we space it out. So that was the

00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.480
second one was spaced repetition. And the third

00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:52.059
one. which is, it's like, oh, why, why that one?

00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:56.420
Is teach it to someone else. And what happens

00:26:56.420 --> 00:26:58.700
is you see your brain, think of it back in the

00:26:58.700 --> 00:27:00.680
hunter -gatherer days. You're walking down a

00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.099
path and all of a sudden you walk into a cave

00:27:03.099 --> 00:27:06.200
and there's a grizzly bear in there with cubs.

00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.160
And you get the hell out of there before she

00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:12.480
sees you. And you run back to your tribe and

00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:15.259
you tell them about it. Don't go down that path.

00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.259
Don't go in that cave. And as you're explaining

00:27:18.259 --> 00:27:20.750
it to them, You're now saving half the people

00:27:20.750 --> 00:27:22.549
in your tribe or at least somebody important.

00:27:22.849 --> 00:27:25.869
And so the brain started developing in a way

00:27:25.869 --> 00:27:28.890
that said, when we teach something, that means

00:27:28.890 --> 00:27:31.609
it's got to be really important. If we tell it

00:27:31.609 --> 00:27:34.009
to someone else, it now moves it to a different

00:27:34.009 --> 00:27:36.369
part of our brain. Oh, and now you're surrounding

00:27:36.369 --> 00:27:40.210
yourself with people who also understand. In

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relationships, I give my clients, listen, I'm

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going to show you how to. You want to walk into

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a room and be like king of the world for clients

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if they're introverts and they're like, you know,

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I don't feel comfortable. And I say, listen,

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I'm going to tell you the secret. And it's not

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just self -serving. It's underneath it all. We

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have a driving force to be validated that is

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so powerful that it's behind the house you buy,

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the watch you buy, the car you drive, right down

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to even your clothes. And people go, well, what

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if somebody wears unusual clothes? They think

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they'll be validated for their creativity, for

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their originality. But we are indirectly asking

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everyone, tell me I'm okay. And so if we're all

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doing that, well, what is validation? It really

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comes down to two simple things. It's compliments.

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So it's approving of them. And it's appreciation.

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It's thanking them. So I say you walk in any

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scenario and you just be the person in there

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who's. who is approving. By the way, don't make

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anything up. What if I can't think of anything

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nice to say? Well, you're not looking hard enough.

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There's something wonderful about everyone. So

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you be the one who's in there thanking people

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for whatever gesture and recognizing something

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special. And instantly, the egos just melt away.

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And then you get that real person. If you want

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to take it a step further, ask about them. you

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get to learn who they are, you get to understand

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them better, and they get to feel heard and seen.

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And simple little things, but man, it can change

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your life forever. And if you turn around and

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tell that to everyone you know, then you're surrounded

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by people who are all so busy validating each

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other that ego has no reason to engage. I feel

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like I'm okay. I don't need my ego to step in

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and protect me. Sorry, I just went off. No, no,

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no. Vision pros. Again, we've one of the realities

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in life is that when I worked, the coaches that

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I've worked with, the huge leaders that we work

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with, the video power and beyond. I always heard

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certain people come into those rooms or leave

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those types of seminars and say things like,

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man, this is all this is elementary and basic

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stuff. I remember this from kindergarten. What's

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funny is the best of the best that I've worked

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with. They create that kindergarten environment

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every day. They love to live and play and that

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sense of wonder and that sense of authenticity

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and that sense of these are the things that matter.

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And we were not meant to leave them behind. It's

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not because we're childish. It's because we are

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childlike recipients of knowledge, of growth,

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of what exists. So Mark has worked with Donna

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Johnson, Clyde Bodden. Rita Davenport, Cameron

00:30:24.700 --> 00:30:27.660
Bodden, Austin Clark. I mean, the names on this

00:30:27.660 --> 00:30:31.380
list, Dr. Mark Rosenblum. He's my geneticist.

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There's so many people that are on the list that

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you have worked with and that rave about your

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ability to coach and your ability to help them

00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:43.680
move to the next level. And so I'm very, very

00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:45.700
grateful that you came on the show with us today.

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Those of you who are listening in, there's a

00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:50.240
button in the top right corner. It says, be our

00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:52.519
guest. Come and share your vision, even if it's

00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:54.240
the first time that you're sharing it. We want

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to hear it. You might be the next Mark Fournier.

00:30:57.940 --> 00:31:03.079
You might be the next Elon Musk, the next Thomas

00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:05.240
Edison. We don't know. But we do want to get

00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:06.559
to know you. We do want to see what you have

00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:10.599
to offer. And you can find Mark's books. Mark,

00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:13.920
what's the most important link that comes to

00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:15.940
mind right now? Probably just type in Mark Fournier

00:31:15.940 --> 00:31:19.339
Presents. And that'll take you anywhere. That'll

00:31:19.339 --> 00:31:21.880
take you to everything. Good. Mark Fournier Presents.

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And it's all the stuff I do. And you got the

00:31:26.299 --> 00:31:28.180
abundance right there, my friends. My hope, too,

00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:29.960
is that you'll take that. And just like I do

00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:31.759
with the great books, with the authors who are

00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.240
alive these days, I don't stick with the well.

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I want to go to the author who built the well.

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I want to go and spend some time with them and

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see what's coming next. How are we doing that?

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So reach out to Mark and we'll see you guys on

00:31:43.339 --> 00:31:44.960
the next episode of Vision Pros Live. Thank you

00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.859
for being here today. I'm really happy that you

00:31:46.859 --> 00:31:49.140
tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward

00:31:49.140 --> 00:31:52.680
to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue

00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:54.440
to move forward. This is going to get more and

00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:56.480
more fun. We'll have more and more engagement

00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:58.579
as well. We'll invite people to participate in

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the show and thank you for giving us your time

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and attention. Have an excellent time building

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out your vision. and becoming a vision pro yourself.
