WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.640 All right, welcome in to Vision Pros Live. With 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.879 Jackson Callum, I'm your show host. We'll be 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:07.599 doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:10.500 and guest leaders who are building fantastic 00:00:10.500 --> 00:00:20.859 visions out there. Tell me about yourself. Tell 00:00:20.859 --> 00:00:22.620 me about, you know, I guess what I missed on 00:00:22.620 --> 00:00:24.920 the vision. If we later want to produce this 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:26.859 as kind of like raw footage and bonus footage, 00:00:27.019 --> 00:00:29.960 people tend to love that too. So I'm also good 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:31.699 with that. But yeah, tell me about yourself. 00:00:31.820 --> 00:00:33.899 I don't really have any context, but I like your 00:00:33.899 --> 00:00:36.060 personality. You're a nice guy. So thanks. It's 00:00:36.060 --> 00:00:40.320 going well so far. Yeah. So I live in rural Utah 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:45.359 down here, Southeast Utah. Been kind of born 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:48.759 and raised in this area and grew up kind of loving. 00:00:49.390 --> 00:00:52.750 the ruralness of Utah, you know, a lot of desert, 00:00:52.890 --> 00:00:57.649 high desert areas, hiking, biking, just getting 00:00:57.649 --> 00:01:01.649 out in the outdoors, that kind of thing. And 00:01:01.649 --> 00:01:07.049 I grew up on a farm in rural Utah as well when 00:01:07.049 --> 00:01:09.930 I was a young kid. So that kind of taught me 00:01:09.930 --> 00:01:13.549 hard work and the values that kind of come along 00:01:13.549 --> 00:01:18.189 with that. Grew up with eight other brothers 00:01:18.189 --> 00:01:23.609 and sisters, so big family. Eventually, you know, 00:01:23.609 --> 00:01:26.269 was really attracted to business entrepreneurship 00:01:26.269 --> 00:01:29.549 as I was growing up. I started a few little businesses 00:01:29.549 --> 00:01:34.390 when I was a teenager and ended up studying business 00:01:34.390 --> 00:01:38.049 in college up at UVU, which is, you know, right 00:01:38.049 --> 00:01:40.489 next door to BYU, which is where you were at. 00:01:40.650 --> 00:01:42.909 So maybe we were there about the same time. I 00:01:42.909 --> 00:01:49.740 don't know. What years were you there? 2007. 00:01:49.740 --> 00:01:51.879 Let's see. I served my mission in 2007, 2009. 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:55.480 So I was at BYU for 2006 for a little bit, and 00:01:55.480 --> 00:02:00.239 I was there for 2010's winter semester as well. 00:02:00.340 --> 00:02:04.159 What about you? Okay. Yeah, I graduated in 2001 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:09.780 from UVU, and I was stuck around there for maybe 00:02:09.780 --> 00:02:13.180 four or five more years before we moved. down 00:02:13.180 --> 00:02:15.560 to Southeast Utah. So I was probably in the area 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:19.060 around the same time as you were. Uh, we had 00:02:19.060 --> 00:02:23.699 a little condo there in South Provo. So, but 00:02:23.699 --> 00:02:28.379 yeah, so graduated from business. So I was pretty 00:02:28.379 --> 00:02:34.860 close. Okay. Nice. Nice. Yeah. Um, yeah. So graduated 00:02:34.860 --> 00:02:38.580 from business and started in, uh, in finance 00:02:38.580 --> 00:02:42.189 kind of. got my start as a financial planner 00:02:42.189 --> 00:02:45.810 ended up getting into banking and kind of growing 00:02:45.810 --> 00:02:49.770 my career in banking where i grew you know from 00:02:49.770 --> 00:02:53.250 a loan officer to a manager to a district manager 00:02:53.250 --> 00:02:57.770 and now i'm the ceo of a of a credit union in 00:02:57.770 --> 00:03:00.710 southeast utah called desert rivers credit union 00:03:00.710 --> 00:03:06.409 and i've been in that role for 14 years and we've 00:03:06.409 --> 00:03:09.900 grown that credit union from about Just one branch 00:03:09.900 --> 00:03:15.080 when I took over in about $10, $12 million in 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:19.039 deposits. So we're up about 10 times that. We're 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:23.719 about $115, $120 million in deposits now. And 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:27.419 we have four branches across Southeast Utah. 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:33.879 And love to see that going. Along the way, I 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:38.099 helped found and start up a business, an IT business. 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:41.479 about five years ago with a partner of mine. 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:48.439 And so we struggled to find like quality enterprise 00:03:48.439 --> 00:03:55.460 level IT here in rural Utah. So we bought a franchise 00:03:55.460 --> 00:04:00.680 that provided proper IT and cybersecurity for 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:05.439 businesses in this area. And just... kind of 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:08.039 expanded from there you know used it as a solution 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:11.300 for the credit union and then kept kind of offering 00:04:11.300 --> 00:04:13.599 it to others that needed it and it's becoming 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:17.019 a bigger and bigger need in our communities as 00:04:17.019 --> 00:04:19.160 we grow and there's a bigger need for that so 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:23.180 yeah so that's that's i also dabble a little 00:04:23.180 --> 00:04:26.560 bit in real estate i'm a partner in a real estate 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:31.240 investment firm that is actually focused on the 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:36.100 eb5 program which helps People who are not residents 00:04:36.100 --> 00:04:40.639 of the United States to gain their visa status 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:48.180 here by investing in real estate projects. Wow. 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:55.060 You make UVU look phenomenal. Oh, thanks. Yeah, 00:04:55.160 --> 00:05:03.680 I wish we had had a football team, though. Man, 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:08.779 that's cool. Congratulations. That's the story 00:05:08.779 --> 00:05:12.740 most of us know Utah for, is tremendous hard 00:05:12.740 --> 00:05:15.199 work, perseverance, and successes like that. 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:18.160 At least that's my depiction. I felt so inadequate 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:21.839 when I was at BYU. I was like, whoa, I'm outclassed 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:24.680 by everybody at almost everything. This is crazy. 00:05:25.540 --> 00:05:29.040 Yeah, BYU is hard that way. And, you know, I 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:31.199 also, I mean, a little bit about me and my family. 00:05:32.750 --> 00:05:35.509 an avid family man i've got five kids i think 00:05:35.509 --> 00:05:38.470 i was mentioning before i have three adult children 00:05:38.470 --> 00:05:42.410 all three of them are are at college i've won 00:05:42.410 --> 00:05:46.089 it one in prague and one at stanford and one 00:05:46.089 --> 00:05:50.430 at byu and then i have two two young daughters 00:05:50.430 --> 00:05:53.389 seven and nine years old that are still in in 00:05:53.389 --> 00:05:56.970 elementary school been married to my beautiful 00:05:56.970 --> 00:06:02.910 wife chanel for 26 years and uh like Every day, 00:06:02.910 --> 00:06:06.149 I think, gets better with that marriage. It's 00:06:06.149 --> 00:06:10.290 amazing how it just progresses into a more fulfilling 00:06:10.290 --> 00:06:14.089 relationship. And I love seeing my family grow. 00:06:14.269 --> 00:06:16.350 All three of my older kids came back for Thanksgiving. 00:06:16.589 --> 00:06:19.769 And seeing what they're doing with their lives 00:06:19.769 --> 00:06:21.569 and trying to figure out what the next steps 00:06:21.569 --> 00:06:28.889 are is pretty cool. Amen. This was the perfect 00:06:28.889 --> 00:06:33.589 vision to hear about. That's just, again, congratulations 00:06:33.589 --> 00:06:37.389 to you. And I just want to soak in it because 00:06:37.389 --> 00:06:42.910 I'm like, man, this is good stuff. Samuel, what 00:06:42.910 --> 00:06:48.709 would be your, I guess I'll ask two questions. 00:06:48.750 --> 00:06:51.250 You can go whichever one you want first. One, 00:06:51.269 --> 00:06:55.810 I already know how much this vision will mean 00:06:55.810 --> 00:06:58.829 to other visionaries who are building out there. 00:06:59.100 --> 00:07:04.420 the type of hope that this drives um and so my 00:07:04.420 --> 00:07:07.379 questions are one what do you feel would be most 00:07:07.379 --> 00:07:09.939 beneficial for other visionaries who are listening 00:07:09.939 --> 00:07:16.100 in and what what would be your favorite or best 00:07:16.100 --> 00:07:22.500 takeaways um for being on the podcast well i 00:07:22.500 --> 00:07:26.579 i love i love your podcast because um i think 00:07:26.579 --> 00:07:29.899 sometimes visionary people feel a little bit 00:07:29.899 --> 00:07:34.100 alone. It can feel like a lonely road when you're 00:07:34.100 --> 00:07:37.420 envisioning some of these big, grand, grandiose 00:07:37.420 --> 00:07:42.579 ideas. Just because people have different reactions 00:07:42.579 --> 00:07:47.759 to a visionary person. I've noticed that, you 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:52.920 know, the more I share my vision, the more diverse 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:56.800 the reaction usually is. And it's it's the whole 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.279 scale, you know, like people can be really excited 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:04.379 about the vision and and it can it can get them 00:08:04.379 --> 00:08:07.040 jazzed about the next steps. Or it can also go 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:10.540 to the point where people are scared and they're 00:08:10.540 --> 00:08:17.139 afraid of of your vision. And so as a as a visionary 00:08:17.139 --> 00:08:18.939 person, I've been a visionary person really my 00:08:18.939 --> 00:08:22.339 whole life. And I want I'd love to share with 00:08:22.339 --> 00:08:26.180 people that it. it's okay to be a little bit 00:08:26.180 --> 00:08:29.560 alone in your vision and that there are other 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:34.259 people out there like you that are also holding 00:08:34.259 --> 00:08:37.879 on to their vision and just stepping forward 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.659 every day, trying to bring that vision to pass 00:08:41.659 --> 00:08:48.639 and to do the hard things because it takes a 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:52.659 lot of faith to move forward with a big vision. 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:57.440 with a with a big idea and so that would be the 00:08:57.440 --> 00:08:59.460 one thing that i'd love your listeners to hear 00:08:59.460 --> 00:09:02.740 is that you know there there are others out there 00:09:02.740 --> 00:09:06.360 like you we we have faith like you and we're 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:09.019 moving forward one step at a time just like you 00:09:09.019 --> 00:09:12.799 and it's okay if you feel lonely it's okay if 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:15.740 you feel discouraged sometimes just keep going 00:09:15.740 --> 00:09:23.899 that's it man and I know the Internet tried to 00:09:23.899 --> 00:09:27.000 cut out the wisdom you just shared, but I was 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:30.559 soaking it in. I was like, dang, this is this 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.259 is super good and super important. And you never 00:09:33.259 --> 00:09:35.720 know when the visionary is in that moment of 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:38.720 despair and or in that moment of like, I don't 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:41.200 know if I can do this. And it's these types of 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:43.659 messages that end up being the springboard and 00:09:43.659 --> 00:09:45.759 the little piece that's like, OK, now I can take 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.179 one more step forward. And sometimes that's the 00:09:48.179 --> 00:09:50.879 only step that's now needed. But most of us. 00:09:51.370 --> 00:09:53.929 we have, we have a lot to build, um, and you 00:09:53.929 --> 00:09:55.570 don't, you don't build Rome overnight. It's one 00:09:55.570 --> 00:09:58.029 brick at a time. Um, but it takes some time to 00:09:58.029 --> 00:10:01.669 pull it off. And so, um, I love seeing why you 00:10:01.669 --> 00:10:03.629 bet on Mike Fassett and like, oh my gosh, how 00:10:03.629 --> 00:10:06.990 did he do all this? Um, so what would you, let's 00:10:06.990 --> 00:10:10.029 go to the second question. What are you, um, 00:10:10.129 --> 00:10:12.669 what would benefit you the most in this podcast 00:10:12.669 --> 00:10:14.950 and what, what takes you to stages you've already 00:10:14.950 --> 00:10:18.179 got? You know, you're the CEO of a credit union 00:10:18.179 --> 00:10:20.220 that's expanded tremendously. You've got this 00:10:20.220 --> 00:10:22.340 IT business. You've got the real estate firm. 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:25.200 You've got a phenomenal marriage. You've got 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:30.080 wonderful kids. What are you adding to or what 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:32.220 are you doing? We didn't waste your time on my 00:10:32.220 --> 00:10:34.980 podcast. I'm just kidding. What is this doing 00:10:34.980 --> 00:10:37.899 for you, Samuel? Well, I think it's important, 00:10:38.059 --> 00:10:45.399 you know, to really like share ourselves. with, 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.360 with others. And I think it's, I think as a two 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:50.700 -edged sword, I think, I think sharing myself 00:10:50.700 --> 00:10:54.679 with others helps other people to grow and like 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:58.340 be inspired. But it also helps me like what I 00:10:58.340 --> 00:11:01.840 found as I've shared my story is I learn and 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:05.259 grow through sharing my story and I learn and 00:11:05.259 --> 00:11:07.279 grow through putting myself out there. It was 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:10.000 really scary the first few times that I did podcasts 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:13.600 or, you know, I would, would put. social media 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.559 stuff out there but what i realized is that it 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:19.700 was making me a better person it would help me 00:11:19.700 --> 00:11:22.279 with my vision it would help me with my hold 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:26.200 myself accountable on things and so it helps 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.159 me and then and then it does seem to help my 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:31.500 businesses as well you know as people get exposed 00:11:31.500 --> 00:11:34.580 to me and they start to learn who the real person 00:11:34.580 --> 00:11:37.980 is then you know they're more comfortable to 00:11:37.980 --> 00:11:41.759 to approach me when it comes to banking needs 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.120 or or IT needs, cybersecurity needs, those kinds 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:49.139 of things. And I think that people want to get 00:11:49.139 --> 00:11:51.480 to know the leadership of the businesses that 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:55.059 they put their trust in. And so I think it's 00:11:55.059 --> 00:11:58.779 super important, especially in today's day that 00:11:58.779 --> 00:12:03.240 we as leaders get out there and especially as 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:05.620 long form content where you can really get to 00:12:05.620 --> 00:12:07.980 know people without just canned questions. Like 00:12:07.980 --> 00:12:10.950 it's just a conversation that we're having. And 00:12:10.950 --> 00:12:13.730 being able to get to know people that way helps 00:12:13.730 --> 00:12:20.190 me out too. Absolutely. I would agree 100 % with 00:12:20.190 --> 00:12:23.409 that. And I just get to learn. It's like free 00:12:23.409 --> 00:12:27.470 mentorship to be the podcast host on these. So 00:12:27.470 --> 00:12:31.610 Samuel, do you have any specific goals of like, 00:12:31.730 --> 00:12:34.029 you know, are you aiming for a TED Talk? Are 00:12:34.029 --> 00:12:36.730 you going to create some type of documentary 00:12:36.730 --> 00:12:39.450 series on Netflix, Tony Robbins style, but one 00:12:39.450 --> 00:12:43.710 up? Or is it just a matter of like, more like 00:12:43.710 --> 00:12:45.009 Alex or Mosey? I don't want to say he doesn't 00:12:45.009 --> 00:12:47.210 have specific goals, but I love when he talked 00:12:47.210 --> 00:12:50.169 about launching his podcast. He said he was hiring 00:12:50.169 --> 00:12:51.570 the guy who was going to help him with his podcast. 00:12:51.649 --> 00:12:54.210 And he said, look, let go of the metrics. We're 00:12:54.210 --> 00:12:56.230 going to do this for 10 years. We're going to 00:12:56.230 --> 00:12:58.649 make it better every day. And in 10 years, we'll 00:12:58.649 --> 00:13:01.590 see the result. We'll take a look and see if 00:13:01.590 --> 00:13:03.809 it was worth our time or not. Right. And that's 00:13:03.809 --> 00:13:07.919 a pretty bold move. how I live as well. But what 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:09.940 about yourself? Like, do you, do you have specific 00:13:09.940 --> 00:13:11.620 realities that you're trying to bring to fruition 00:13:11.620 --> 00:13:13.639 over the next couple of years or what does that 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.580 look like? Yeah, I definitely do. Like, you know, 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.960 I want to see my businesses grow and I have specific 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:23.320 goals for each of those. And I want to see myself 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:28.259 grow. One of the visions that I, that I'm working 00:13:28.259 --> 00:13:31.480 on right now, it's not in place yet, but I, I, 00:13:31.539 --> 00:13:35.730 I really would like to help. other executives 00:13:35.730 --> 00:13:40.210 to grow in their role and not get burnt out while 00:13:40.210 --> 00:13:43.210 still maintaining a really good family lifestyle. 00:13:44.669 --> 00:13:50.149 I see a lot of my friends that they either kind 00:13:50.149 --> 00:13:53.529 of burn themselves out by working so hard that 00:13:53.529 --> 00:13:56.610 they kind of lose what's most important to them, 00:13:56.690 --> 00:14:01.759 which is a lot of times their family. You know, 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:04.299 I've been there before where it was kind of that 00:14:04.299 --> 00:14:06.779 crossroads of like, man, if I don't make a change 00:14:06.779 --> 00:14:11.399 to my lifestyle, then I'm going to lose everything, 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:14.059 including my health. I really got to a point 00:14:14.059 --> 00:14:18.379 where my health was very poor and I had huge 00:14:18.379 --> 00:14:21.639 brain fog and I had shingles and all these things 00:14:21.639 --> 00:14:23.559 that were stress induced. And the doctors were 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:25.240 like, you got to change your life, you know. 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:29.600 And so I've been able to make that journey as 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:32.440 well. And I feel like there's a lot of people 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:37.059 out there that someday I would love to have a 00:14:37.059 --> 00:14:40.700 group of people that I help mentor and coach 00:14:40.700 --> 00:14:46.539 a little bit through that. And I love like outdoor 00:14:46.539 --> 00:14:50.059 retreats. So I could see myself doing like an 00:14:50.059 --> 00:14:51.919 outdoor retreat with these groups of people, 00:14:52.059 --> 00:14:54.960 just spending time in the outdoors, doing something 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:57.889 fun, you know, river raft or. I'm going on a 00:14:57.889 --> 00:15:00.309 jeeping tour or something, you know, just getting 00:15:00.309 --> 00:15:03.590 out in the mountains and, and camping or whatever 00:15:03.590 --> 00:15:06.970 it is. You know, things like that. I would love, 00:15:06.970 --> 00:15:09.429 I would love to help people who are struggling 00:15:09.429 --> 00:15:12.629 with, with that because it, it, it's a lonely 00:15:12.629 --> 00:15:14.710 road sometimes. I've mentioned that before on 00:15:14.710 --> 00:15:17.570 visionaries, but, you know, or anybody who's 00:15:17.570 --> 00:15:20.230 really running a business or that, that maybe 00:15:20.230 --> 00:15:24.470 be an executive level. It's sometimes you feel 00:15:24.470 --> 00:15:27.590 like you're. you're all alone. And so if you 00:15:27.590 --> 00:15:29.169 had a group of people that you could connect 00:15:29.169 --> 00:15:31.330 with and grow with, I think it would be pretty 00:15:31.330 --> 00:15:36.070 awesome. Huge man. I'll, I'll for sure double 00:15:36.070 --> 00:15:39.590 down on that. Um, one of my great mentors and 00:15:39.590 --> 00:15:42.870 friends, um, is Tracy Childs. He's the founder 00:15:42.870 --> 00:15:44.809 of wishlist member. He lives over in park city, 00:15:44.870 --> 00:15:49.570 Utah. Okay. And we met icon years ago. And, uh, 00:15:50.110 --> 00:15:52.549 We saw each other in passing a couple of times, 00:15:52.610 --> 00:15:55.389 probably gave the bro nod. And then, you know, 00:15:55.409 --> 00:15:57.830 we were at a like just randomly and throughout. 00:15:58.049 --> 00:16:01.409 I think we're in Phoenix for the event. And he's 00:16:01.409 --> 00:16:03.529 like, come over here. You know, he's like, say 00:16:03.529 --> 00:16:07.549 hi. And just so warm and inviting. And in our 00:16:07.549 --> 00:16:11.970 third gathering at that event, he's the first 00:16:11.970 --> 00:16:14.070 entrepreneur. I don't know. I was probably 26. 00:16:14.710 --> 00:16:19.149 But I had heard say Jackson. entrepreneurship 00:16:19.149 --> 00:16:21.769 is just lonely. I was like, it's, you know, I 00:16:21.769 --> 00:16:24.029 have all my best friends. I find at these conferences 00:16:24.029 --> 00:16:26.330 and at these gatherings that we need to make 00:16:26.330 --> 00:16:28.850 this stuff happen more often. And so I'm grateful 00:16:28.850 --> 00:16:31.129 that, and you know, he was probably in his thirties, 00:16:31.210 --> 00:16:33.990 forties, but like he planted that seed in my 00:16:33.990 --> 00:16:36.289 mind and in my heart, like, Oh, this is important. 00:16:36.450 --> 00:16:39.429 Yeah. This is what, this is where we're meant 00:16:39.429 --> 00:16:41.250 to be. And this is where our friendships are. 00:16:41.309 --> 00:16:44.690 And so I'll extend a branch to Sue Anderson. 00:16:45.070 --> 00:16:48.600 Sue is one of our other podcast hosts. She owns 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:51.779 Wildwoods Retreat Center in Tennessee. Oh, nice. 00:16:51.820 --> 00:16:55.419 She's also the host of the show Entrepreneurs 00:16:55.419 --> 00:16:58.620 Gone Wild. And so I'll get you an introduction 00:16:58.620 --> 00:17:00.860 because I think you'd be a phenomenal guest for 00:17:00.860 --> 00:17:03.820 her show, Entrepreneurs Gone Wild. That'd be 00:17:03.820 --> 00:17:04.980 cool. And I think you guys would get along really 00:17:04.980 --> 00:17:08.519 well. And in addition to that, do you happen 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:14.069 to know, do you know Travis Chambers? I don't, 00:17:14.069 --> 00:17:17.190 it's not sounding familiar. What's the context? 00:17:20.289 --> 00:17:23.390 No, they're going to be great friends. Travis 00:17:23.390 --> 00:17:27.250 Chambers was our video producer at Video Power 00:17:27.250 --> 00:17:29.529 Marketing, outsourced, by the way. He produced 00:17:29.529 --> 00:17:31.890 the number one YouTube out of the decade with 00:17:31.890 --> 00:17:34.009 Kobe Bryant and Lena Messi on Turkish Airlines. 00:17:34.410 --> 00:17:38.029 He is produced. tons of the most viral ads of 00:17:38.029 --> 00:17:40.849 all time um and uh works the harman brothers 00:17:40.849 --> 00:17:44.029 with daryl eaves um you know and others but he 00:17:44.029 --> 00:17:46.650 sold his company a few years ago and he launched 00:17:46.650 --> 00:17:50.950 something called outpost x and outpost x i highly 00:17:50.950 --> 00:17:54.430 recommend looking up on youtube it is a out in 00:17:54.430 --> 00:17:57.170 the middle of the utah desert resort just outside 00:17:57.170 --> 00:18:00.410 of zion's national park uh they have star wars 00:18:00.410 --> 00:18:04.049 themes they have luxury themes he's got investors 00:18:04.049 --> 00:18:09.849 for this He is all out on that. He's a good friend 00:18:09.849 --> 00:18:11.769 of Jake Larson, who's the founder of video power 00:18:11.769 --> 00:18:16.190 that I, I help build out video power with. But 00:18:16.190 --> 00:18:21.049 between all the things that you've done and the 00:18:21.049 --> 00:18:24.849 direction you're headed, I just wouldn't be surprised 00:18:24.849 --> 00:18:28.329 to see you guys just blow things up to another 00:18:28.329 --> 00:18:31.170 level. And look, I'm a big fan of one plus one. 00:18:31.670 --> 00:18:35.890 Yeah. Okay. You're a banker. compound effect 00:18:35.890 --> 00:18:39.230 is like, um, people are either one minus one 00:18:39.230 --> 00:18:41.529 and zero, or they, you know, they kind of hobble 00:18:41.529 --> 00:18:43.430 along and try to figure it out. But when you 00:18:43.430 --> 00:18:46.009 get two great superstars together, I see the 00:18:46.009 --> 00:18:48.009 company and you take three, one plus one plus 00:18:48.009 --> 00:18:50.650 one, it goes under 11. Um, right. You just, you 00:18:50.650 --> 00:18:52.990 just get great minds to do great things. So, 00:18:52.990 --> 00:18:55.329 um, thank you for all that you're doing seriously 00:18:55.329 --> 00:18:58.109 for like bringing visions to life for yourself, 00:18:58.289 --> 00:19:01.930 being a light on a hilltop for others. Um, it 00:19:01.930 --> 00:19:04.250 does serve a great purpose. It served me tremendously 00:19:04.250 --> 00:19:07.289 today. Um, I'd love to produce this as an episode, 00:19:07.450 --> 00:19:09.450 even though my hair's on that. So you cool with 00:19:09.450 --> 00:19:12.950 that? Yeah, let's do it. It'd be great. Okay. 00:19:13.509 --> 00:19:15.650 And I'll talk to the team about, about turning 00:19:15.650 --> 00:19:18.430 this one into an episode because this, you just 00:19:18.430 --> 00:19:20.970 can't, you can't reinvent the conversation that 00:19:20.970 --> 00:19:23.529 we just had in the same way, but what we can 00:19:23.529 --> 00:19:26.430 do is we can add to it. I'd love to bring you 00:19:26.430 --> 00:19:29.210 back and dive in deeper to your vision and like 00:19:29.210 --> 00:19:30.910 hear about what visions you, you really want 00:19:30.910 --> 00:19:34.450 to share, you know, just, just build on top of 00:19:34.450 --> 00:19:37.650 this. Yeah, that sounds great. I'd love to come 00:19:37.650 --> 00:19:40.769 back. And I love your hair, by the way. I was 00:19:40.769 --> 00:19:45.069 in a movie, the Book of Mormon videos that were, 00:19:45.069 --> 00:19:48.650 you know, back in like 2021 or something. And 00:19:48.650 --> 00:19:51.009 I had to grow my hair out for like a year and 00:19:51.009 --> 00:19:54.210 a half. So I was all the way down to my back 00:19:54.210 --> 00:19:56.789 and I had a big old beard. I actually miss it. 00:19:56.869 --> 00:20:00.589 So yeah, kudos to you. I wish I could go back 00:20:00.589 --> 00:20:04.430 once in a while. That's cool. That's cool. I 00:20:04.430 --> 00:20:07.809 told my friends, I said, I'm probably going to 00:20:07.809 --> 00:20:10.410 apply to be an extra or something in The Chosen. 00:20:10.569 --> 00:20:14.170 I was like, I'll probably realize this and make 00:20:14.170 --> 00:20:18.230 it happen. So fun to try. I'm way outside my 00:20:18.230 --> 00:20:23.049 comfort zone, but it would be a blast. All right, 00:20:23.069 --> 00:20:26.750 Sam, last fortune cookie for the world. Well, 00:20:26.809 --> 00:20:29.609 what do you got for visionaries? What other words 00:20:29.609 --> 00:20:31.150 of wisdom would you like to share as we wrap 00:20:31.150 --> 00:20:36.380 up? Just, you know, like I would say as a visionary, 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:39.200 the biggest thing to do is we constantly kind 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:42.400 of compare our visions to others. I think that's 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:45.119 the biggest downfall is we kind of compare like 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:48.079 how ours is going to somebody else's and I get 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.059 caught up in it daily. And so if I could offer 00:20:51.059 --> 00:20:54.259 one nugget to other visionaries, it would be 00:20:54.259 --> 00:20:57.160 just look back, you know, see how far you've 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:00.299 come and you can recognize your progress line. 00:21:00.859 --> 00:21:03.259 and see that it's moving in a good direction 00:21:03.259 --> 00:21:06.160 and, and just focus on that growth rather than 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:09.640 comparison and, you know, getting down to yourself 00:21:09.640 --> 00:21:12.660 for not being where you want to be. So, yeah, 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:15.039 I'm, I'm sure that if I could just see other 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:16.680 visionaries, I'd just give them a big hug and 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:19.079 tell them you're doing great. Just keep stepping 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:22.720 one, one foot in front of the other. Awesome, 00:21:22.740 --> 00:21:24.849 man. We appreciate it. Vision Pros, we'll see 00:21:24.849 --> 00:21:27.390 you guys on the next episode. Feel free to reach 00:21:27.390 --> 00:21:30.609 out to Samuel Crane or myself if you'd like help. 00:21:30.670 --> 00:21:33.670 Also, again, check out Outpost X. Check out what 00:21:33.670 --> 00:21:36.230 Video Power is up to. Check out what Sue's up 00:21:36.230 --> 00:21:38.910 to with Entrepreneurs Gone Wild. None of these 00:21:38.910 --> 00:21:41.049 are sponsors. They're just people I love, and 00:21:41.049 --> 00:21:42.470 I love to align with people who are doing amazing 00:21:42.470 --> 00:21:44.210 things. So I hope to align with you, too, on 00:21:44.210 --> 00:21:46.089 the next episode. Come join us and share your 00:21:46.089 --> 00:21:48.230 vision. We'll see you then. Awesome. Thanks. 00:21:48.390 --> 00:21:50.529 Thank you for being here today. I'm really happy 00:21:50.529 --> 00:21:52.750 that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking 00:21:52.750 --> 00:21:56.009 forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes 00:21:56.009 --> 00:21:57.809 continue to move forward. This is going to get 00:21:57.809 --> 00:22:00.390 more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement 00:22:00.390 --> 00:22:02.509 as well. We'll invite people to participate in 00:22:02.509 --> 00:22:04.690 the show. And thank you for giving us your time 00:22:04.690 --> 00:22:06.990 and attention. Have an excellent time building 00:22:06.990 --> 00:22:09.309 out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.