WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.419 Alright, welcome in to Vision Pros Live. I'm 00:00:03.419 --> 00:00:05.599 Jackson Callum, I'm your show host. We'll be 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:07.339 doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs 00:00:07.339 --> 00:00:10.259 and guest leaders who are building fantastic 00:00:10.259 --> 00:00:22.170 visions out there. Everybody, welcome into the 00:00:22.170 --> 00:00:24.170 episode of Vision Pros Live. I'm your show host, 00:00:24.289 --> 00:00:26.210 Jackson Callum, founder and CEO of First Class 00:00:26.210 --> 00:00:29.170 Business. And I've got Dr. Terrell Baker on with 00:00:29.170 --> 00:00:32.189 me. She's got her doctorate in leadership or 00:00:32.189 --> 00:00:34.670 business. One of those two, both of those principles 00:00:34.670 --> 00:00:36.890 being important for any visionary out there. 00:00:36.929 --> 00:00:39.689 And she certainly has a depth of experience in 00:00:39.689 --> 00:00:41.950 both. I'm going to read to you a little bit about 00:00:41.950 --> 00:00:44.549 what she's bringing to the table today and in 00:00:44.549 --> 00:00:47.070 future episodes. And of course, the deepest you're 00:00:47.070 --> 00:00:48.490 going to be able to get to dive is if you contact 00:00:48.490 --> 00:00:50.710 her directly. She says, my vision is to be the 00:00:50.710 --> 00:00:53.270 most trusted partner for purpose -driven individuals 00:00:53.270 --> 00:00:56.070 and organizations seeking to ignite their full 00:00:56.070 --> 00:00:59.329 leadership potential and achieve enduring, measurable 00:00:59.329 --> 00:01:01.429 success. Now, the thing that I'm most excited 00:01:01.429 --> 00:01:04.269 about is I'm a big fan of the concept of who, 00:01:04.430 --> 00:01:08.049 not what. And Joel Simmons is the man who connected 00:01:08.049 --> 00:01:10.090 the two of us. And him and I have a very deep 00:01:10.090 --> 00:01:12.390 brotherhood of four and a half years now. And 00:01:12.390 --> 00:01:15.209 the fact that she's she's been a client of his 00:01:15.209 --> 00:01:17.409 and worked with him is now coming on the show. 00:01:18.189 --> 00:01:20.769 Your network, right, is your net worth. That's 00:01:20.769 --> 00:01:22.450 another big, important principle to remember. 00:01:22.650 --> 00:01:25.829 So she also says my vision will be impactful 00:01:25.829 --> 00:01:27.890 to the audience because I'll provide strategic 00:01:27.890 --> 00:01:31.120 tools. sustainable insights, and actionable solutions 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:33.299 that empower leadership, illuminate strategy, 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:35.439 and transform clients' ability to capitalize 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:37.939 on new opportunities. So while we're not going 00:01:37.939 --> 00:01:40.439 to get into the full gamut of tools today, again, 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:42.200 I highly recommend reaching out to Dr. Baker 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:44.819 to discuss what she's got for us. So real quick, 00:01:44.900 --> 00:01:46.739 a few other resources that you have available. 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:48.599 Home Studio Mastery, if you're looking to build 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:51.159 a world -class podcast studio, Junaid Ahmed is 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:54.599 the man. Dr. Danny Brassell is a champion at 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:56.659 helping parents inspire their children to become 00:01:56.659 --> 00:01:58.640 phenomenal readers through his program, The Reading 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:00.859 Habit. Definitely check that out. And if you'd 00:02:00.859 --> 00:02:03.269 like to work with us to give back. The water 00:02:03.269 --> 00:02:05.349 project is something that we just support just 00:02:05.349 --> 00:02:07.670 like you can. We're not affiliated with it. I 00:02:07.670 --> 00:02:10.069 just love the fact they bring water to millions 00:02:10.069 --> 00:02:12.870 of people that don't have access to such a critical 00:02:12.870 --> 00:02:15.370 resource. And they track and show you exactly 00:02:15.370 --> 00:02:18.030 how they utilize and put your funds into use 00:02:18.030 --> 00:02:20.729 for those who are most in need. So if you if 00:02:20.729 --> 00:02:22.370 you can help with that, fantastic. If you can 00:02:22.370 --> 00:02:24.349 think of another project that you'd like us to 00:02:24.349 --> 00:02:26.469 get involved with, just share it as a comment. 00:02:26.990 --> 00:02:28.849 go ahead and send it back to us. I will personally 00:02:28.849 --> 00:02:31.189 review whatever that cause looks like and see 00:02:31.189 --> 00:02:33.050 if there's some way that we can help contribute 00:02:33.050 --> 00:02:35.409 or spread the word. We've got 8 billion people 00:02:35.409 --> 00:02:37.349 to help when this works. So I say, let's dive 00:02:37.349 --> 00:02:38.849 in and do that together. Without further ado, 00:02:38.909 --> 00:02:41.110 let's get back to helping you and dive into Dr. 00:02:41.310 --> 00:02:43.569 Baker's vision. Terrell, again, thank you so 00:02:43.569 --> 00:02:45.889 much for being here today. Thank you. I'm excited 00:02:45.889 --> 00:02:48.650 to dive into this vision at a stronger depth. 00:02:50.270 --> 00:02:52.530 Normally, I would ask you next, what's the vision 00:02:52.530 --> 00:02:54.289 for those that you serve? But I'm going to take 00:02:54.289 --> 00:02:57.659 a step back. You're a doctor. I'm not. Is there 00:02:57.659 --> 00:03:01.000 a question that if you're on a podcast that you 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:02.879 haven't been asked or that you'd love to be asked 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:04.379 for the sake of the audience? Anything come to 00:03:04.379 --> 00:03:09.219 mind? A question that I'd love to be asked? Yeah. 00:03:09.500 --> 00:03:14.479 So I would really want to know who I am. Like, 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:17.080 Terrell, just who are you? Where do you come 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:20.300 from? What's your story? I'll start right there 00:03:20.300 --> 00:03:24.520 then. Terrell, who are you? And definitely, what's 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:28.500 your story? Let's hear about it. Yeah, so I am 00:03:28.500 --> 00:03:32.960 the third child of four. I am the middle child. 00:03:33.620 --> 00:03:37.699 I had a lot of firsts in my family. I was the 00:03:37.699 --> 00:03:39.879 first to get married, first to have children, 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:43.900 the first to go to college, get a degree. So 00:03:43.900 --> 00:03:48.000 I really think that those firsts in my life have 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:54.310 helped me to set myself up for success. After 00:03:54.310 --> 00:03:57.050 obtaining my doctorate in strategic leadership, 00:03:57.389 --> 00:04:01.509 I really decided to do something for myself outside 00:04:01.509 --> 00:04:03.870 of the church. As I mentioned earlier, my background 00:04:03.870 --> 00:04:07.590 is in the church. I'm a pastor, assistant pastor, 00:04:07.870 --> 00:04:11.490 been one for over 25 years. But I still have 00:04:11.490 --> 00:04:15.949 that dream and that desire, that passion to help 00:04:15.949 --> 00:04:23.090 people. And so with my foundation being. faithful 00:04:23.090 --> 00:04:27.670 foundation, I feel like I definitely have what 00:04:27.670 --> 00:04:29.649 it takes. And I know that I have what it takes 00:04:29.649 --> 00:04:36.670 to really help people beyond the, to help people 00:04:36.670 --> 00:04:41.149 go into their experiences as ecclesial leaders. 00:04:41.329 --> 00:04:45.990 And so for me, my passion is just loving, just 00:04:45.990 --> 00:04:51.399 living and laughing, having fun while encouraging, 00:04:51.579 --> 00:04:55.339 inspiring, and uplifting individuals as well. 00:04:56.259 --> 00:04:59.500 That's fantastic. So with Radiant Light, is this 00:04:59.500 --> 00:05:02.699 something that is limited to the world of ministry 00:05:02.699 --> 00:05:04.540 and pastors, or is this something you're opening 00:05:04.540 --> 00:05:08.240 up to the greater globe? Opening up, definitely 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:10.860 opening up. Like I said, I wanted to go beyond 00:05:10.860 --> 00:05:15.480 the church and into the world because, you know, 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.660 light needs to shine everywhere. So I feel like 00:05:18.660 --> 00:05:22.040 that's what I'm doing. I'm letting my allowing 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:25.360 my light to shine radiantly wherever I go in 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:29.180 places outside of, you know, people that need 00:05:29.180 --> 00:05:32.839 that light and need to have illumination and 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:37.540 revelation as to business acumen and their business 00:05:37.540 --> 00:05:41.399 acumen. So definitely outside. In addition to 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:43.379 I wouldn't say just outside, but in addition 00:05:43.379 --> 00:05:46.170 to what I'm already doing. Yes. Law of abundance. 00:05:46.730 --> 00:05:49.910 Lots of opportunity there for all and the above 00:05:49.910 --> 00:05:51.829 to be attracted. Yeah, I'm down here in Ecuador. 00:05:52.110 --> 00:05:54.170 Same type of thing. There's an opportunity to 00:05:54.170 --> 00:05:56.810 shed light down here, open the eyes and minds 00:05:56.810 --> 00:05:59.509 of youth while we're at it. And whoever else 00:05:59.509 --> 00:06:01.350 we might come across or decide to plan something 00:06:01.350 --> 00:06:04.970 for. So speaking of planning for others, what's 00:06:04.970 --> 00:06:07.269 your vision for those that you serve? What do 00:06:07.269 --> 00:06:09.790 you hope to see them accomplish, achieve, feel 00:06:09.790 --> 00:06:12.670 or sense by being involved in the Radiant Line? 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:19.420 So basically, I want to help individuals to see 00:06:19.420 --> 00:06:23.180 their vision clearly, see their vision more clearly. 00:06:23.699 --> 00:06:30.310 We're offering help with people. Then there's 00:06:30.310 --> 00:06:32.970 succession plans. A lot of businesses don't have 00:06:32.970 --> 00:06:36.889 their succession plans, helping people guide 00:06:36.889 --> 00:06:39.689 them through cultural shifts and merges that 00:06:39.689 --> 00:06:44.790 are happening more in today's society. One of 00:06:44.790 --> 00:06:46.889 the things I love is emotional intelligence, 00:06:47.250 --> 00:06:50.470 you know, getting into helping people to identify 00:06:50.470 --> 00:06:54.689 with themselves, understanding themselves while 00:06:54.689 --> 00:06:58.110 they're understanding. others as well, helping 00:06:58.110 --> 00:07:01.389 them to be more creative and innovative with 00:07:01.389 --> 00:07:04.649 the things that they are doing so that they can 00:07:04.649 --> 00:07:08.569 achieve measurable outcomes and successes in 00:07:08.569 --> 00:07:12.430 the business realm. That's huge. And those are 00:07:12.430 --> 00:07:16.689 opportunities to plan on the front end. I think 00:07:16.689 --> 00:07:18.350 it was Stephen Covey who said, begin with the 00:07:18.350 --> 00:07:21.689 end in mind. It's being ready to look at what 00:07:21.689 --> 00:07:25.850 might be on the horizon. You mentioned a conglomeration 00:07:25.850 --> 00:07:28.329 of opportunities, succession plans, mergers, 00:07:28.410 --> 00:07:31.290 emotional intelligence. You and I both know it 00:07:31.290 --> 00:07:33.850 goes above and beyond that list to all the things 00:07:33.850 --> 00:07:37.910 that brands and entrepreneurs, I don't want to 00:07:37.910 --> 00:07:40.949 say have to juggle, but... There's a lot of opportunity. 00:07:41.829 --> 00:07:46.009 Absolutely. Jake Larson comes to mind. He's one 00:07:46.009 --> 00:07:48.709 of my favorite mentors, VideoPower .com. For 00:07:48.709 --> 00:07:50.089 those of you who don't know him, he's one of 00:07:50.089 --> 00:07:52.730 the most balanced people I've met. Recently, 00:07:53.310 --> 00:07:55.990 he's upgraded from balanced to talking about 00:07:55.990 --> 00:07:59.689 an integrated life and making sure that all elements 00:07:59.689 --> 00:08:03.329 of his life are integrated, not necessarily balanced, 00:08:03.629 --> 00:08:06.370 but that there's unity and harmony across the 00:08:06.370 --> 00:08:10.550 spectrum. What are your thoughts on That process 00:08:10.550 --> 00:08:13.089 as entrepreneurs, succession plan, mergers, emotional 00:08:13.089 --> 00:08:16.610 intelligence, employees, prospects, there's a 00:08:16.610 --> 00:08:21.850 lot of moving things. Do you integrate? What's 00:08:21.850 --> 00:08:24.350 it look like? Yeah, I think a lot of things are 00:08:24.350 --> 00:08:30.860 interconnected. I liken it to our bodies, you 00:08:30.860 --> 00:08:33.259 know, the head bones connected to the neck bone, 00:08:33.340 --> 00:08:35.759 the neck bone connected to the backbone. I mean, 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:41.279 you know, our bodies function that way in interdependence 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:46.460 on one organ to another. And so I feel like that's 00:08:46.460 --> 00:08:51.059 how we function in society and businesses and 00:08:51.059 --> 00:08:55.159 corporations, that when we understand our individual 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:59.519 functions. and how they're related corporately. 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:04.320 There's a harmony there. There becomes that unity, 00:09:04.500 --> 00:09:08.980 that symphony where things can flow better because 00:09:08.980 --> 00:09:11.980 everyone understands their part. And so they're 00:09:11.980 --> 00:09:15.039 doing that part in leadership. And I think that 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:21.620 that's key. to having that smooth flow of things, 00:09:21.779 --> 00:09:24.779 allowing everyone to understand how what they 00:09:24.779 --> 00:09:28.659 do relates to what the next person does and how 00:09:28.659 --> 00:09:32.379 that brings, how when it comes together, there's 00:09:32.379 --> 00:09:34.919 that beautiful picture, that beautiful blanket 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:39.580 of tapestry that's woven all together that without 00:09:39.580 --> 00:09:46.480 the other parts mean nothing. This is huge. In 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:48.940 a divided world right now where we've got AI 00:09:48.940 --> 00:09:51.759 that's doing good and bad, just like human beings 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:54.080 are doing good and bad in the world. I love that 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.559 you talked about the head bone connecting to 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:00.200 the neck bone and beyond. Really, when you're 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:03.909 putting together a business, the anatomy. it's 00:10:03.909 --> 00:10:05.970 not all connected right it's all disconnected 00:10:05.970 --> 00:10:08.750 yeah and you have to be able to piece that together 00:10:08.750 --> 00:10:11.649 and there's some class clowns out there who would 00:10:11.649 --> 00:10:14.590 say um you know and some cells like really really 00:10:14.590 --> 00:10:16.570 strong cells we all do would say it's not that 00:10:16.570 --> 00:10:19.490 complicated follow me um and i got this or just 00:10:19.490 --> 00:10:21.970 plug it in the chat gbt chat gbt is a phenomenal 00:10:21.970 --> 00:10:25.929 guide yet it can make some serious and critical 00:10:25.929 --> 00:10:28.409 errors without the right types of strategists 00:10:28.409 --> 00:10:32.639 and guides beside you so um As you guys are considering 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:35.580 building your visions, consider people like Jake 00:10:35.580 --> 00:10:38.460 Larson. Consider people like Dr. Terrell Baker 00:10:38.460 --> 00:10:40.940 and what she's up to or first class business. 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:45.100 Consider who is it that you can trust? Who do 00:10:45.100 --> 00:10:47.399 you vibe with? Who do you feel has that type 00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:49.700 of energy that's going to help you with the process 00:10:49.700 --> 00:10:52.480 of pulling those elements together? Because it's 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:56.159 not about complicating it. It's about making 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:58.320 sure that we understand how to be wise stewards 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:02.519 with what is complex. As simple as life can be, 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:06.179 it's also something that the devil's in the details, 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:09.820 so are the dividends. So is the divine. The details 00:11:09.820 --> 00:11:12.340 are what ultimately drives success in my humble 00:11:12.340 --> 00:11:14.700 opinion and experience. So I want to end with 00:11:14.700 --> 00:11:18.299 one final piece of perhaps fortune cookie or 00:11:18.299 --> 00:11:20.340 advice or resource that you'd like to share, 00:11:20.419 --> 00:11:23.519 Dr. Baker. And then, of course, I'd love to have 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:25.200 you back on the show again so we can actually 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:27.559 take a deeper dive into what Radiant Light is 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:33.029 up to. some of the philosophies or the workbook 00:11:33.029 --> 00:11:36.029 components of how you pull things together. But 00:11:36.029 --> 00:11:38.070 if this was your last opportunity to speak to 00:11:38.070 --> 00:11:41.009 our audience today, what would your advice be 00:11:41.009 --> 00:11:43.970 for other visionary leaders out there? I would 00:11:43.970 --> 00:11:48.669 say you want someone that hears you, that hears 00:11:48.669 --> 00:11:52.250 your heart, that is listening for your needs 00:11:52.250 --> 00:11:57.870 and understands what those needs are. and has 00:11:57.870 --> 00:12:01.850 the tools and resources to bring your dreams 00:12:01.850 --> 00:12:06.610 and your desires to pass. I do believe that I've 00:12:06.610 --> 00:12:10.789 studied and been equipped to do that. I certainly 00:12:10.789 --> 00:12:14.710 cannot answer everyone's question, but I do have 00:12:14.710 --> 00:12:19.450 a listening ear. I'm a great listener to understand 00:12:19.450 --> 00:12:23.929 what the plight is or what someone's issue, what 00:12:23.929 --> 00:12:28.759 their concerns are. And I believe that I definitely 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.740 have the tools necessary to at least get you 00:12:33.740 --> 00:12:38.299 started in the right direction that you feel 00:12:38.299 --> 00:12:41.480 like you need to go in. And, you know, I'm not 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:45.919 the type of person that just gets you started, 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:50.279 but one that walks with you through to see the 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:54.879 end of your dream being fulfilled. It's amazing. 00:12:55.259 --> 00:12:58.679 So visionaries, if you felt that, that peace, 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.940 that harmony, that sense of calm that I did, 00:13:02.019 --> 00:13:04.179 then your opportunity is to reach out to Dr. 00:13:04.299 --> 00:13:06.919 Baker. Right. Just reach out and start a conversation. 00:13:07.460 --> 00:13:10.120 If you would like to do more things on your own 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:12.759 in the meantime, my other invitation to you is, 00:13:12.759 --> 00:13:17.600 is consider the value of asking chat GPT. What 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:19.960 questions should I be asking when I'm looking 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:23.019 for somebody to help me establish? or expand 00:13:23.019 --> 00:13:25.940 my vision and my brand. And in addition to that, 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:29.240 ask, what questions will great leaders be asking 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.159 me? That does not mean they have to ask all those 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:34.080 questions. Don't trap yourself in on this. Don't 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:35.879 overcomplicate it. We're trying to simplify here 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:38.059 and help you. But I do know that if we don't 00:13:38.059 --> 00:13:40.200 ask the right questions, we often don't end up 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:42.539 at the right destinations. So being empowered 00:13:42.539 --> 00:13:44.299 and prepared for that, if that's going to help 00:13:44.299 --> 00:13:47.200 you, fantastic. Dive into the cerebral element 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:50.100 of analyzing and finding those questions. But 00:13:50.100 --> 00:13:52.679 if you already feel that feeling of like magnitude 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:55.259 that this is who I want to talk to, then. Give 00:13:55.259 --> 00:13:57.159 Dr. Baker a call because that's exactly what 00:13:57.159 --> 00:13:58.539 I'm going to be doing after this and say, hey, 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:00.940 how do we meet and catch up? Because we've got 00:14:00.940 --> 00:14:03.139 we've got a billion people to help. I can't do 00:14:03.139 --> 00:14:05.059 this alone. So Vision Pros, thanks so much for 00:14:05.059 --> 00:14:07.320 being here, tuning in. Best wishes as you build 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:09.279 out your visions. I hope that if you're even 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:10.960 if you're diving in for the first time today 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:12.860 in the top right corner of our screen, you'll 00:14:12.860 --> 00:14:15.220 see that button that says be our guest. Come 00:14:15.220 --> 00:14:17.500 and join us in this. You don't have to be a doctor 00:14:17.500 --> 00:14:19.460 with low past experience and leadership like 00:14:19.460 --> 00:14:22.259 Dr. Baker is. You can be somebody brand new that's 00:14:22.259 --> 00:14:23.679 getting started. We want to honor that and get 00:14:23.679 --> 00:14:26.029 it out there. And we know that everybody has 00:14:26.029 --> 00:14:28.289 the potential and power to make a massively great 00:14:28.289 --> 00:14:31.110 impact on this world. And we hope you rise up 00:14:31.110 --> 00:14:32.549 with us and do just that. We'll see you guys 00:14:32.549 --> 00:14:35.649 on the next episode. Take care, everybody. I 00:14:35.649 --> 00:14:43.090 love it. I love it. Oh, thank you. Thank you 00:14:43.090 --> 00:14:45.830 so much. It's a pleasure to meet you. This is 00:14:45.830 --> 00:14:49.960 wonderful. Jackson, you do remind me of Joel. 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:53.200 You have the same spirit, and I love that. Just 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:56.720 friendly, very, very kind and gentle. Thank you 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:00.059 so much for allowing me to speak with you today. 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:03.600 I'm so happy. I'm honored, too. Thank you, Joel. 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:07.720 I look up to Joel a lot. He is a good man, and 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.750 it was fun. the way we got to know each other 00:15:11.750 --> 00:15:14.789 by him joining another program and then both 00:15:14.789 --> 00:15:18.590 of us falling out from that program, but having 00:15:18.590 --> 00:15:21.490 a mutual respect, a desire to support each other 00:15:21.490 --> 00:15:23.250 from a distance, but never forcing anything, 00:15:23.389 --> 00:15:25.549 you know, just kind of letting it, letting the 00:15:25.549 --> 00:15:31.549 whole process marinate, if you will. So it's, 00:15:31.549 --> 00:15:37.210 I've met very few people with the level of intentionality, 00:15:37.230 --> 00:15:40.840 integrity. leadership potential that Joel has. 00:15:41.059 --> 00:15:43.539 So, yeah, that's really cool. How long have you 00:15:43.539 --> 00:15:44.659 been working with him? How long have you known 00:15:44.659 --> 00:15:48.460 Joel for? Actually, we just met in May. I think 00:15:48.460 --> 00:15:51.179 it was May or late June. Yeah, early June or 00:15:51.179 --> 00:15:55.059 something like that. Yeah. And it was, it's like, 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:58.679 you know, it's one of those interesting situations 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:00.840 or relationships where you feel like you've been 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:05.320 knowing each other for years. And so it... Just 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:09.019 an instant connection, yeah. That's great. It's 00:16:09.019 --> 00:16:13.120 only been a few months, but it seems like years. 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:17.059 Huge. Now, Terrell, have you been on a lot of 00:16:17.059 --> 00:16:19.860 podcasts? Is this a common theme for you? No, 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:27.740 I have not, actually. I have not. Actually, probably 00:16:27.740 --> 00:16:31.379 two. Cool. Yeah, I think this is my second one. 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:36.320 Cool. That's exciting. That's super fun. Well, 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:38.399 would you like to know where it goes from here? 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:43.759 I certainly would. Yes, sir. Yeah, sure. I can't 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:46.159 speak for all of us. Every podcast is different. 00:16:46.820 --> 00:16:50.220 The game is changing rapidly. And the reason 00:16:50.220 --> 00:16:53.340 why is because now it's kind of like when everybody 00:16:53.340 --> 00:16:55.440 could no longer had to code to build websites. 00:16:55.940 --> 00:16:58.809 Now everybody becomes a web developer. Everybody 00:16:58.809 --> 00:17:01.409 gets a camera on iPhones and now we're all famous 00:17:01.409 --> 00:17:10.130 photographers. The amateur nature of podcasting 00:17:10.130 --> 00:17:12.170 means there's a wide spectrum of experiences 00:17:12.170 --> 00:17:15.750 that take place. I'm a big believer that if we 00:17:15.750 --> 00:17:19.809 can reach one person, one person benefits from 00:17:19.809 --> 00:17:23.470 it fantastic. The neat thing is even if you're 00:17:23.470 --> 00:17:27.109 on a bad show, I must say that content, you still 00:17:27.109 --> 00:17:29.230 are the light. Right. It's in that darkness. 00:17:29.609 --> 00:17:32.150 And so you still will have the benefit of being 00:17:32.150 --> 00:17:35.269 able to showcase your depth as a leader. And 00:17:35.269 --> 00:17:38.309 if you take that episode, even if they're not 00:17:38.309 --> 00:17:41.089 attracting anybody, if they give you distribution 00:17:41.089 --> 00:17:43.950 rights and you take that and you put it in front 00:17:43.950 --> 00:17:46.930 of your audience. Right. That's that's more new 00:17:46.930 --> 00:17:50.089 organic content. And most of most podcasters 00:17:50.089 --> 00:17:52.859 aren't bad. They're pretty good. It will increase 00:17:52.859 --> 00:17:55.339 your authority and your credibility because people 00:17:55.339 --> 00:17:57.980 see you on stage in different lights. And your 00:17:57.980 --> 00:17:59.779 audience will get to know things like the story. 00:17:59.859 --> 00:18:01.900 Most people will dive into the story and the 00:18:01.900 --> 00:18:03.700 beginning of a podcast. And then you get to share 00:18:03.700 --> 00:18:08.579 your elements from different angles. Google and 00:18:08.579 --> 00:18:12.059 other search engines categorize that information 00:18:12.059 --> 00:18:15.480 too. I'm always weighing it to see how many people 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:17.200 liked it, how many people commented, how many 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:20.000 people shared. Do people stay and watch the whole 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:21.819 interview? Do they just watch a piece of it? 00:18:22.059 --> 00:18:24.480 All of that factors into the value that comes 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:27.000 out of the episode. And if you think of it like 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:30.799 TV, and I'll end on this, but when the next episode 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:33.259 of, I don't know what's popular on TV right now, 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:35.220 but whatever's popular, let's say The Walking 00:18:35.220 --> 00:18:37.920 Dead was popular a while back, they're going 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:42.200 to air teasers and trailers 400 times that day. 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:45.619 Right. 400 times. Wow. All the way up until the 00:18:45.619 --> 00:18:47.359 episode comes out. And then as the episode ends, 00:18:47.420 --> 00:18:49.059 they're still going to have commercials. Yes. 00:18:49.180 --> 00:18:53.240 So redistribution is the one thing that most 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:55.779 podcasters and most podcast guests don't think 00:18:55.779 --> 00:18:58.880 about from a professional standpoint. But if 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:01.160 you're not redistributing in a world that has 00:19:01.160 --> 00:19:05.700 excessive content, your voice can easily be drowned 00:19:05.700 --> 00:19:08.740 out. So rather than getting obsessed with that, 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:10.589 I said, well, I'm just one person. Just remember 00:19:10.589 --> 00:19:13.430 that your opportunity to kind of re -share that 00:19:13.430 --> 00:19:17.650 experience once in a while is a great way to, 00:19:17.690 --> 00:19:19.349 especially when the content is what's called 00:19:19.349 --> 00:19:21.349 evergreen. You know, what we talked about today, 00:19:21.509 --> 00:19:25.549 it's going to apply in 20 years. Yes, yes. So 00:19:25.549 --> 00:19:28.289 using that information to get out there is really 00:19:28.289 --> 00:19:30.750 helpful. We will do the same thing on our end. 00:19:30.809 --> 00:19:34.450 So within three to six weeks, we'll have this 00:19:34.450 --> 00:19:38.269 episode, Scott, produced. put out on the RFS, 00:19:38.390 --> 00:19:42.349 which you have to follow. Okay. Now we'll get 00:19:42.349 --> 00:19:45.309 a couple hundred, maybe a couple thousand views. 00:19:45.630 --> 00:19:48.589 We're talking about a global show, but there's 00:19:48.589 --> 00:19:50.769 still a lot of things out there to distract people. 00:19:51.250 --> 00:19:53.670 Then we'll take that, we'll put it on YouTube, 00:19:53.849 --> 00:19:57.049 which will expand that audience. And then as 00:19:57.049 --> 00:19:59.869 we share that YouTube link on other platforms 00:19:59.869 --> 00:20:03.230 or chop the content up further, once again, the 00:20:03.230 --> 00:20:05.390 voice gets out there a little bit further. Okay. 00:20:05.490 --> 00:20:09.869 The, um, the goal is to remember our human emotional 00:20:09.869 --> 00:20:12.849 intelligence, right? The people, people always 00:20:12.849 --> 00:20:14.630 feel a sense of stranger danger with somebody 00:20:14.630 --> 00:20:17.910 new. And so my audience is expanding. They're 00:20:17.910 --> 00:20:19.309 getting to know me first. They're going to know 00:20:19.309 --> 00:20:21.569 you as well as part of the guests. And they're 00:20:21.569 --> 00:20:24.710 going to feel that survival instinct of like, 00:20:24.789 --> 00:20:29.190 Oh, I don't know yet. And if you get the chance 00:20:29.190 --> 00:20:32.390 to go back on shows with hosts and the future 00:20:32.390 --> 00:20:34.089 is some hosts don't do it, but if they're willing 00:20:34.089 --> 00:20:37.009 to, People are going to go through that process 00:20:37.009 --> 00:20:40.210 of getting to know you, getting to like you, 00:20:40.309 --> 00:20:43.930 and then getting to trust you. And so the more 00:20:43.930 --> 00:20:46.549 you're there, I say a lot of the business world 00:20:46.549 --> 00:20:50.269 suffers from inviting and offering. They're just 00:20:50.269 --> 00:20:54.250 pitching constantly. I don't walk up to a girl 00:20:54.250 --> 00:20:56.849 and say, hey, do you want to marry me? That doesn't 00:20:56.849 --> 00:20:59.910 work. It's not appropriate. If I want healthy 00:20:59.910 --> 00:21:02.410 relationships, then I got to learn that if I 00:21:02.410 --> 00:21:04.910 want to drive awareness, I've got... three principles 00:21:04.910 --> 00:21:07.470 that I've built into it. One, you got to intrigue, 00:21:07.470 --> 00:21:12.390 attract, and inspire. And if I don't intrigue, 00:21:12.390 --> 00:21:15.250 attract, and inspire, then I'm not going to extend 00:21:15.250 --> 00:21:17.150 an invitation. My savior didn't invite people 00:21:17.150 --> 00:21:20.390 unless he knew that they were already at some 00:21:20.390 --> 00:21:24.089 type of level of spiritual connection. So I've 00:21:24.089 --> 00:21:26.490 tried to learn to call my old marketing ways 00:21:26.490 --> 00:21:29.450 down. Okay. Give that to some of my guests, too, 00:21:29.529 --> 00:21:33.009 that might want it. So, yeah, anything we can 00:21:33.009 --> 00:21:35.369 do to support it, feel free to ask or let us 00:21:35.369 --> 00:21:37.329 know. But like I said, within three to six weeks, 00:21:37.450 --> 00:21:40.309 this episode, we'll get this produced. And by 00:21:40.309 --> 00:21:42.690 then, we might also be doing landing pages for 00:21:42.690 --> 00:21:44.589 these short segments. And I'd be happy to have 00:21:44.589 --> 00:21:48.430 you back in a week, in a month, look at a little 00:21:48.430 --> 00:21:50.170 bit further progress on what's going on with 00:21:50.170 --> 00:21:53.349 the vision today. And then we string those episodes 00:21:53.349 --> 00:21:56.049 together, start telling more and more stories. 00:21:57.049 --> 00:22:00.549 Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. Oh, thank you. 00:22:00.569 --> 00:22:03.049 Thank you for the opportunity. Thank you so much. 00:22:03.630 --> 00:22:06.470 Absolutely. I'll see you soon. Okay. Thank you. 00:22:06.650 --> 00:22:10.009 All right. Thank you for being here today. I'm 00:22:10.009 --> 00:22:11.750 really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros 00:22:11.750 --> 00:22:14.690 Live. I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions 00:22:14.690 --> 00:22:17.329 as these episodes continue to move forward. This 00:22:17.329 --> 00:22:19.230 is going to get more and more fun. We'll have 00:22:19.230 --> 00:22:21.049 more and more engagement as well. We'll invite 00:22:21.049 --> 00:22:23.450 people to participate in the show. And thank 00:22:23.450 --> 00:22:25.430 you for giving us your time and attention. Have 00:22:25.430 --> 00:22:28.109 an excellent time building out your vision and 00:22:28.109 --> 00:22:29.150 becoming a vision pro yourself.