Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of
Vision Pros Live. I'm your host and coach, Fletcher
Ellingson. So glad you're in this conversation.
So glad you are showing up today. I think these
conversations are important. Why? Because we're
talking about... Stuff that matters, our health,
our wealth, our relationships, how to get to
that next level, how to bring a greater sense
of workability to our lives and the lives of
those around us. And today, our guest is Glenn
Lubert from Stamina Lab, and welcome to the show.
Thank you for having me, Fletcher. Yeah, yeah.
Hey, before we dive into what it is you do, before
we dive into who it is you help, let's start
off with the win. And the reason I like to do
this is because there's a lot of uncertainty.
There's a lot of suffering occurring in our world
at this moment. And let's remind people that
good is still happening and that we can be the
cause in good occurring. So I like to remind
people that wherever you put your focus, that's
going to determine how you feel. So what's something
that's going well in your life, either professionally
and or personally? Oh, that's a great question.
Personally, I would say that what's going well
is I've been training for my first marathon,
and it's coming up in December. And I think what
the win, I like to say, is that getting up in
the morning for these training runs. has is a
challenge you know you have to get up early especially
here i'm in austin texas so it's uh hot um during
the summer so you have to get up early in the
morning before dawn and getting up regardless
of how far i'm running just the act of getting
up every morning and and that discipline or that
or sometimes you know just convincing yourself
to get out that door adds a little bit of extra
confidence uh to my days because you know i've
done something hard even if it's even if i don't
go run that far just the act i got up and got
out the door um is the win i would say and that
just really just get i guess that gives me a
little extra confidence for the whole day that
you know i've done something something hard already
and um you know i'm ready to take on the day
i could tell The days that I don't do that, I
haven't been able to do it. That's okay. It's
okay not to do it every day, but I wish I had
that feeling that I had the day that I did that
extra hard thing and got up and got out the door.
That's my personal win, I would say. That's a
great win. Everything you just said is spot on.
you're taking you're doing a physical activity
which determine like takes willpower um and you're
exerting yourself uh you know you're doing something
strenuous so you it's like you said you come
back and you're like oh yeah that was a shot
of confidence like i can take on the day right
i mean it's a lot of what i now have to do might
seem easy in comparison right Exactly. Exactly.
And it's just it's an underlying little bit of
confidence that you have in yourself that is
is I guess the absence of it is when I notice
it. Yes, exactly. And, you know, it's it's it's
also this matter of thinking it's it's well,
I could get up and do that versus I got up and
I did that. Yeah. Right. A lot of us. Oh, yeah.
I mean, I could get up and do that. But Glenn
actually got up and did it. Yeah. And that's
a big difference. Yeah. So first of all, I just
want to acknowledge you for taking on your fitness
at this level. You said this is going to be your
first marathon. Is that accurate? That's correct.
Yeah. I was a Division I track and field runner
back in my youth. And I stopped running. Many
reasons. One of them is I started a company and
it takes over everything. And I did not respect
my health and well -being during that. time period
and I got burned out. So as I started a stamina
lab, you know, one of the key things that I wanted
to do was make sure that I had a health first
approach to myself because I knew that not only
was it good for myself, but it was good for everyone
around me. My team, my colleagues, my loved ones
to have that, you know, put your oxygen mask
on first type situation. And it wasn't taking
away from the business. It was enhancing the
business by doing that. So, you know, I started
running with a running group. here in austin
and you know before long they're like oh you
should try a half marathon i'm like oh i don't
i don't have any interest and they're like well
it's a downhill half marathon i'm like all right
i'll give that a try and so uh you know three
of those now then so someone's like well you
should try a marathon i'm like well i don't have
any interest in doing that but you know here
i am uh giving it a try because because you know
it's just that little extra challenge like we
talked about the discipline of getting up in
the morning that shot of confidence is kind of
as addicting yeah oh gosh so many good things
here i'm just i'm making some notes because i
want to really want to highlight some of this
for our our listeners here you said um you're
taking a health first approach for yourself yeah
okay let's just pause there for a second because
i love this idea and i really want to invite
our listeners to ask themselves this uh reflect
first of all what he just said he's taking on
a health first approach for himself we all know
intellectually that this is a wise thing to do
to keep the machine healthy and running at at
its optimal level we all intellectually understand
that that's an important thing to do And what
I want to invite you who are listening is I want
to invite you to just ask yourself, do I have
a health first approach for myself? Do I practice
a health first approach for myself? Now, and
just listen to your answer. You might say, yeah,
I do. You might say, no, I don't. You might have
a lot of chatter in your brain about rationalizing
why you do or you don't. And there's no good,
bad, right, or wrong answer. This is not about
guilting or shaming anybody. I just want you
to get curious. Do I have a health -first approach
for myself? And if you see something in there
for yourself, this is an opportunity. This is
your access point, perhaps, to taking a different
action. You also mentioned the word discipline
a couple times. I want to pause there and just
take a moment because a lot of people, when they
hear that, like, well, yeah, Glenn's, of course,
Glenn's doing training for a marathon. He's disciplined.
You know, a lot of us are going to say, like,
I don't have that discipline. Well, first of
all, we need to really define what discipline
is because a lot of us think that it's some magical
element that you either have or you don't. Oh,
I'm not disciplined. I mean, look at Glenn. He's
so disciplined. He gets up before the crack of
dawn. Look, discipline is not the act of getting
up and running. That's not the discipline. The
discipline takes place before that. The discipline
is the ability to direct your thinking and your
focus. That's it. That's all discipline is. It's
the practice of directing your thinking and focus
so that... You can get up while it's still dark
and go run. So what I want our people to listen,
listening, what I want them to hear is that this
guy Glenn from Stamina Labs, when he talks about
discipline, what he's saying is that I'm practicing
directing my thinking in such a manner that I
can then take specific actions. And what I want
our people to know is that you can do that too.
Discipline is a practice. You're not born with
it. It's not a magical thing. It's a practice.
Glenn, chime in. Are we on the same page here?
Yeah, I think there's two things that came up
for me when you were saying that, which was one
is the way that, at least I'm applying it here
in this context of getting up in the morning,
but in general with... behavior change and our
solution focused approach that we can talk about
at stamina lab that we do is that it's understanding
why i'm doing this you know what differences
are going to make in my life and so that so a
lot of times we talk about the negative i don't
want to do this i don't want to do that um it's
but what do you want instead you know we talked
we have a metaphor where you get into a cab And
the cab driver says, where do you want to go?
I'm like, well, I don't want to go over there
because I stink at that. I don't want to go over
there because that's not fun. I don't want to
go over there because that person hurt me or
whatever your reason, or that's really hard.
I don't want to go over there. Well, the cab
driver's like, well, that's fine, but where do
you want to go? I can't drive the cab until you
say where I want to go. And so it's asking yourself,
what do you want instead or what do you want?
And then the other question is, what? difference
will it make for yourself and you just keep asking
yourself that what difference will it make and
when you understand what difference that will
make that really gives it deep intrinsic into
you so when then that when it's not fun it's
not it's hard to get up in the morning like i
said or any whatever your mountain that you're
trying to climb whatever that there's going to
be that everyday thing you have to do and the
the question you have to remind yourself is oh
what difference is this going to make for me
and you know ultimately gets back when you ask
that question enough it gets back to you know
i'll have uh love and kindness and joy and you
know ultimately you get to all those those bigger
things but even things that are more closer more
tangible to you maybe i'll have you know more
money or i'll have better health or but again
what difference will more money make for you
i'll have more time and freedom you know those
type of things but you have to continue to ask
yourself what difference will that make for me
and what do i want instead you have to tell the
cab driver where to go Yeah. And that is such
a great analogy. I'm definitely going to borrow
that and use it. So it's such a great analogy.
Yeah. Because we are practiced at saying what
we don't want. Yeah. And our brain doesn't hear
the word don't or doesn't. It just says, okay,
I don't want cake. I don't want cake. We know
what cake feels like and tastes like and what
it looks like and smells like. All of our senses
are very attuned to what cake is. So when we
say, I don't want cake, all our brain is hearing
is. cake cake cake cake cake over and over because
it knows what that is so you have to direct you
as you're talking about direct the attention
of your of your of your thoughts and your actions
you have to direct it on something you do want
and be as as detailed and clear as it as you
possibly can because the brain doesn't know the
difference between the past present or the future
so when you describe that um place you want to
go in as much detail as possible your brain has
already been there and a lot of times when we're
trying to get to a goal and the conventional
wisdom says okay i want to go i want i have a
goal i want to go to okay so how do i get there
but then there's time money um people anything
that's blocking you from getting there so you're
like i can't do it because of all these things
But when you describe that future, that cake
in so much detail, the brain is so creative that
it says, all right, I've already been there.
So it's going to figure out, okay, all the different
ways I can get to that cake because it's already
been there. And those roadblocks are no longer
there because you've jumped over that. And now
you're asking yourself, what's something, even
the smallest thing I can do in the next 24 hours
that would tell me that I'm moving in that direction,
even the smallest thing. And that just builds
on that momentum. Oh, man. Yes, I'm loving everything
you're saying. Yes, we are well aligned in this
thinking. And I absolutely agree. Yes, visualize
the outcome. We have an infinite mind. Infinite.
And again, the brain, once it sees the outcome,
it gets highly creative. But it is a practice
of directing your thinking. We have a negativity
bias. We're going to continually go to what's
negative or what's going to prevent us from getting
there. We have to practice these questions that
we're going to ask ourselves. It's really asking
ourselves questions because the brain just brains.
It has self -talk going constantly. It's going
to be negative because part of it – so you can't
try to – So it's a whack -a -mole situation to
try to fix that self -talk. It's just practicing,
like you said, driving that attention towards
the questions that you want to ask. Where do
I want to go? What difference will it make? When
I get there, what would it look like in all the
different shapes and forms? Yeah, and I'm absolutely
a huge fan of that question. What difference
will this make for me? Man, focus on that. Focus
on the answers of that. What difference will
this make for my health? What difference is this
going to make for my sex drive? What difference
is this going to make for my communication with
my family or my team? What difference will this
make in my bank account? I mean, on and on and
on and on. It's such a powerful question. What
difference will this make if I take this action,
if I make this decision? So good. Hey, Glenn.
This show is called Vision Prose, and so my next
question for you is, what's your vision? What's
that clarified story that you've been working
on up here that you are efforting now to unfold
in the physical realm? Thank you. The vision
is everything. And as we talk about what does
that look like and what difference will that
make, that's the question that you're asking.
So that's the same way I asked for the company
that we're building at Stamina Lab. And it's
to help people improve their health and well
-being so they can live a long health span so
they can do more of the things they want to do
with the people that they care about in their
lives. And I think that last little part is so
important is, again, it's why are you doing this?
You can live a long health span, not a lifespan,
a health span where you have the physical ability
to be able to do the things you want to do. And
we believe that by changing your behavior, helping
you through that, learning this process, the
solution focused approach to asking these kind
of questions that you can you have the capacity
to. to go to that direction that you already
want, that you already are on. By listening to
this podcast, you're already on that, on that
path. You are already heading in that place that
becoming the person that you want to be. And
with our solution focus approach, that's really,
it's such a powerful, it's evidence -based. It's
been, you know, 20 some meta studies over the
last 30 years have proven that, you know, this
really works, this approach really works to help
people improve their. to improve their lives
in any way, shape, or form. We're applying it,
like I said, to a health -first approach like
I have for my life because I believe health is
wealth. And when you have that health span and
you are able to do anything you want, then the
world's your oyster. So that's where the vision
is to help as many people as possible to learn
this approach. Yeah, I sure like that. Health
is wealth. We frequently don't understand that
until... we are experiencing some sort of dis
-ease or discomfort physically, right? And then
all of a sudden we're like, whoa, I really want
to be healthy again. I want my health back. And
you, and we are, you know, if we are health rich,
generally, I mean, what I mean by that is you've
got a, if you've got a body and you've got all
your limbs, right? Like you are so wealthy. And
people say, well, what do you mean by that? What
I mean by that is, I remember one of my mentors
said, if I gave you $100 ,000, would you cut
off your arm and give it to me? I'm like, no,
of course not. Okay, well, how about a million
dollars? A million dollars and you have your
arm removed. No, not even. Five million? No.
Ten million? no you can see we our bodies are
are priceless right we're not i mean just consider
that i mean because we take it for granted all
the time um i want to i want to share just something
briefly because i'm in my 50s and uh two years
ago i decided i realized what you're talking
about health is wealth like I mean, in the most
sincere fashion, health is wealth. But I realized
like, oh, in my 50s, I'm starting to lose muscle
mass. That's weird. That hasn't happened before.
And so I made a commitment to become the strongest
that I've ever been in my life. And so I joined
the gym for the first time in my life. Never
joined a gym, never did weightlifting. And what
I can tell you is that it was an incredible opportunity
for me to practice discipline. Right. The practice
of directing my thinking, but also experiencing
that that wealth of health, like to to feel strong
in my body. That's it absolutely feels so good.
And guess what? It feels good every single day.
Yeah. So so I did it for one year and I and I
actually became stronger than I've ever been.
Not the fittest because I used to do triathlons,
but the strongest I've ever been. And then I
was like, this is a fun game to play. I'm going
to go for year two. So, you know, two years into
it now, I'm like, every day I feel really, I
feel the wealth of that health. And so I love
that you are, what you're offering to people.
And I want people to really pause and consider
what you're talking about. And if you are in
that age bracket where you're like, boy, I don't
know. I mean, I don't know how to get my health
back or how to create health or where to start.
This is what Glenn does. He's here to help you
figure out where to start. They've got proven
results. They've got a plan. And Glenn, I'm assuming
that you've got some sort of discovery call or
people can reach out and ask questions. Tell
me a little bit about that and where they can
get in touch with you. Yeah, so visit staminalab
.io, and there you can see some of the details
on our approach, which is really interesting.
I find it so fascinating, this approach. You
can also just book a discovery call through there.
There's a button for that as well. We have a
bunch of resources on this site that you can
download and check out, or you can take some
assessments. Your self -talk style is one of
those that's on there, or your stress perceptions
on there. There's a few little assessments you
can take. Basically, they walk you through and
then give you some solution -focused questions.
Again, it's about the questions that you're asking
yourself, some questions that you can start to
ask yourself. One thing you said before was about
guilt and shame. This approach is so powerful
because it takes away the guilt and shame of
change. When you ask yourself, someone comes
to us and says, damn, I had a half a pint of
ice cream last night. It's horrible. I just can't
do this right. Whatever the negative thoughts
that come into play. Traditionally, you would
say, okay, well, why did you have that half a
pint of ice cream? What triggered it? Let's find
a reason why it happened, and the next time it
happened, you can replace that. That's almost
a whack -a -mole game again because every time
something triggers you, you're trying to find
a replacement for it. So when someone comes to
us and says, so you had a half a pint of ice
cream, instead of asking you why, you have to
relive the trauma of whatever the reason was
that you had that, we would say to them, well,
what kept you from eating the whole pint of ice
cream? And they're like, well, I didn't eat the
whole pint of ice cream because of the strength,
skills, and resources that you already have.
And this is where it takes away the guilt and
shame because there's no guilt and shame for
having that half a pint of ice cream because
you didn't have the full pint. And you can replace
that half a pint of ice cream for whatever. But
the idea is that we highlight what you did do.
And then you're like, wait, actually, no, I did
do some stuff there. So the next time that that
happens, whatever the problem is happens, you
remembered, hey, wait. I do have the resources
inside myself to be able to take this on. And
that takes away the guilt and shame. And so if
we do a discovery call with you, even just a
few minutes, we can start to ask some questions
that can even just shift your life in a positive
way. That example you gave is so powerful. I
love that. you know i haven't heard it in this
in the context of health before and i really
appreciate it i love this idea and i'm and you
you know you're talking to somebody who loves
haagen -dazs ice cream and and and no joke this
is literally one of the topics and sub or the
the temptations that i deal with like on a daily
basis right okay I've got several pints of Haagen
-Dazs in my freezer and I could eat an entire
pint easily. And again, I'm a healthy fit person,
right? And still I have this weird chatter in
my head about how much Haagen -Dazs ice cream
did you eat? So I'm going to implement this.
Instead of being like, oh my God, I had too much.
I'm going to be like. Oh, I didn't eat the whole
pint. And ask yourself why. And so the next time
you go into that pint of ice cream, if you ask
that – it's, again, practicing asking that question.
You'll remember that the next time, and maybe
you'll only have a quarter of a pint. Maybe you
won't even pull it out. You're like, oh, I remember.
Or maybe you will have more of it, whatever.
But, again, it's asking yourself what kept you
from going for more and then highlighting these
are the things that I have inside me, this capacity.
uh, for that, to being that healthy person you,
you, you are, and you are, and you, even if you
had, even if you had that, uh, have a pint of
ice cream, you are still being a healthy person.
Yes. And I, yeah. So thanks for highlighting
that. You know, it's what we say to ourselves
matters. It's, it's so important. Um, and so
I love this approach. I'm a fan, and I want to
encourage our listeners, hook up with Glenn.
Go to his website. check it out take some of
those assessments and really begin to um to take
this approach of of asking these helpful questions
why um get curious what we're talking about is
getting curious at a deep level right yeah and
when we get curious you're gonna see things that
you didn't see before and they will become helpful
tools to aid you towards producing the outcomes
that you truly desire um Glenn, thanks for being
on the show. Any last words that you'd like to
share with us before we wrap up? Yeah, I just
say be kind to yourself. We're all on a path,
and you're already becoming that person you want
to be. Like I said, you're listening to this
podcast, so you're already on that path. Yeah,
I totally agree with that, yeah. Well, thanks
for being on the show, and now it's time for
you all. To get out there, be a source of kindness,
be a source of contribution. You do have something
to offer this world, and I believe in you. Thank
you for being here today. I'm really happy that
you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking
forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes
continue to move forward. This is going to get
more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement
as well. We'll invite people to participate in
the show. And thank you for giving us your time
and attention. Have an excellent time building
out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.