WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.279 Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode 00:00:02.279 --> 00:00:04.059 of Vision Pros Live. I'm your host and coach, 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:06.500 Fletcher Ellingson. I'm so glad you're here. 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:08.980 I'm so glad that you are in this conversation. 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:14.880 Why? Because these conversations are loaded with 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:18.600 nuggets of wisdom, nuggets of insight, nuggets 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:22.859 of suggestions and curiosity that will help you 00:00:22.859 --> 00:00:27.559 grow, expand to that next level and create what 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:31.120 it is you want to create. And the main way we 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:35.619 do that is by conversing with other people who 00:00:35.619 --> 00:00:38.359 are doing it. Today on the show, we've got Chaz 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.520 Wolf. He's from Gathering the Kings. Chaz, welcome 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:44.259 to the show. Thanks, Fletcher. I appreciate the 00:00:44.259 --> 00:00:46.399 opportunity to be here. A blessing and thanks 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:49.439 for sharing your audience. Yeah, you bet. Before 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:53.619 we get into what it is you do and who you help, 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:57.479 and we want to find out. What's going well in 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:59.479 your world? And the reason we take time to do 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:01.520 this is because it's easy to focus on what's 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:05.040 not going well. In fact, I've been masterfully 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:08.900 practiced at that for most of my life. But I'm 00:01:08.900 --> 00:01:13.459 practicing noticing what is going well. I'm practicing 00:01:13.459 --> 00:01:16.840 noticing where I can make a difference, where 00:01:16.840 --> 00:01:19.939 I can improve. So lay it on me. What's been going 00:01:19.939 --> 00:01:22.180 well for you personally and or professionally? 00:01:22.829 --> 00:01:24.950 Yeah, I love it, Fletcher. We start almost every 00:01:24.950 --> 00:01:26.750 single call with wins as well for that exact 00:01:26.750 --> 00:01:28.870 reason, creating new neural pathways around the 00:01:28.870 --> 00:01:31.450 things that we want to focus on. And so, yeah, 00:01:31.489 --> 00:01:32.969 man, the things that are going well in my world, 00:01:33.069 --> 00:01:35.930 my kids just this past weekend, all three of 00:01:35.930 --> 00:01:38.989 my kids who raced BMX all took a state championship 00:01:38.989 --> 00:01:42.790 trophy home first place. This huge trophy, my 00:01:42.790 --> 00:01:45.129 youngest is six. The trophy was as large as he 00:01:45.129 --> 00:01:48.629 was. It was pretty fun. And in business, through 00:01:48.629 --> 00:01:51.069 Gathering the Kings, we host a family mastermind 00:01:51.069 --> 00:01:54.159 vacation each summer. We just hosted our largest 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:56.140 one back in June, and we're already planning 00:01:56.140 --> 00:01:58.819 for next summer. We're already almost as many 00:01:58.819 --> 00:02:01.319 families sold to next summer as just came with 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:04.359 us just a few months ago. And we just couldn't 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:06.700 be more excited about what we do for families, 00:02:06.939 --> 00:02:10.120 entrepreneur families specifically. And so that's 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:12.300 just going really, really well. All right. I 00:02:12.300 --> 00:02:15.340 love that. Yeah. So we're celebrating your kids 00:02:15.340 --> 00:02:19.520 and their accomplishments, celebrating what's 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:22.360 been going well in you and gathering the Kings. 00:02:22.500 --> 00:02:28.419 And that's cool. So before we get to your vision, 00:02:28.500 --> 00:02:31.400 the organization is called Gathering the Kings. 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:35.879 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Tell me, what is it that 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:38.879 you do there? And let's just dive into it. And 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:42.229 what's your vision? Yeah, the vision is that 00:02:42.229 --> 00:02:45.229 we help multiply entrepreneurs, family, and wealth. 00:02:45.469 --> 00:02:48.530 And we do that through helping business owners 00:02:48.530 --> 00:02:51.650 understand how to scale their business profitably, 00:02:51.689 --> 00:02:54.389 work less, and to be intentional with their family. 00:02:55.490 --> 00:02:58.729 I think that the cool things that we get to do, 00:02:58.789 --> 00:03:00.610 like with the family mastermind that I mentioned, 00:03:00.710 --> 00:03:02.810 we teach their kids about entrepreneurship. Those 00:03:02.810 --> 00:03:04.310 are just like the cherry on the top, it feels 00:03:04.310 --> 00:03:07.469 like. But I'll talk business all day long with 00:03:07.469 --> 00:03:11.039 entrepreneurs who are... growth -minded, down 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:14.180 -to -earth, family -oriented, because we share 00:03:14.180 --> 00:03:17.680 the same values of wanting to win, not just in 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:19.620 the money category, my bank account. I want to 00:03:19.620 --> 00:03:21.979 win in that. Don't get me wrong. But I just think 00:03:21.979 --> 00:03:23.680 there's so many more elements of success. And 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:25.479 so that's really what Gathering the Kings does. 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:26.939 That's the vision. That's what we're creating. 00:03:27.060 --> 00:03:30.719 That's what we've been creating. And as we progress, 00:03:30.939 --> 00:03:34.360 it always unfolds, sometimes in predicted ways 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:36.539 and sometimes in unpredicted ways, which is always 00:03:36.539 --> 00:03:41.479 fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. so really good so what's 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:44.780 important and i want our clients or not our clients 00:03:44.780 --> 00:03:48.099 but our listeners and and to hear and our people 00:03:48.099 --> 00:03:51.620 who are watching this is um yeah you help people 00:03:51.620 --> 00:03:55.180 on their road to success and accomplishment um 00:03:55.180 --> 00:04:00.280 and you know we're we're in the same space here 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.379 as in the coaching space and helping people um 00:04:03.379 --> 00:04:06.229 empowering people And I think it's really important 00:04:06.229 --> 00:04:09.069 for our listeners to understand what success 00:04:09.069 --> 00:04:13.270 is. And I'm just going to offer my definition 00:04:13.270 --> 00:04:15.509 of it. And you can chime in if you want. Because 00:04:15.509 --> 00:04:18.250 a lot of people, we throw that word around a 00:04:18.250 --> 00:04:21.490 lot. And I think there's a very big difference 00:04:21.490 --> 00:04:23.730 and distinction between success and accomplishment. 00:04:24.230 --> 00:04:28.050 And what I want our viewers to hear is you can 00:04:28.050 --> 00:04:32.620 be successful without the accomplishment. And 00:04:32.620 --> 00:04:36.620 I define success as knowing who I am, knowing 00:04:36.620 --> 00:04:39.540 my desired outcome and taking consistent action 00:04:39.540 --> 00:04:42.699 toward that outcome. If I'm doing those three 00:04:42.699 --> 00:04:47.420 things, I'm successful. Yeah. Right. Now, I may 00:04:47.420 --> 00:04:49.779 not have reached my accomplishment yet. Right. 00:04:49.939 --> 00:04:53.339 Right. But the accomplishment. But because how 00:04:53.339 --> 00:04:55.800 many people do we know who have all the accomplishments 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.519 and yet they don't feel successful? Yeah, that's 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:00.600 right. Right. So we got two different things. 00:05:01.449 --> 00:05:04.550 But I love that you're helping people have that 00:05:04.550 --> 00:05:08.730 sense of feeling successful so that they can 00:05:08.730 --> 00:05:12.129 produce those desired outcomes. The feeling that 00:05:12.129 --> 00:05:15.170 precedes the outcome is really important. Would 00:05:15.170 --> 00:05:18.930 you agree with that? Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah. So 00:05:18.930 --> 00:05:22.610 let's talk about what does Gathering the Kings 00:05:22.610 --> 00:05:25.589 look like? What is this? Is this a mastermind? 00:05:25.629 --> 00:05:28.519 Is this a group? What is it? Yeah. Yeah, that's 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:30.360 a great question. First off, I agree with your 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:33.819 definition of success. The language that we use 00:05:33.819 --> 00:05:36.300 is called winning in all areas. And we've broken 00:05:36.300 --> 00:05:40.860 that down, your business, your family, your health, 00:05:41.060 --> 00:05:45.220 your joy, and your faith. And I think that in 00:05:45.220 --> 00:05:47.540 order to be winning, you have to identify where 00:05:47.540 --> 00:05:49.959 you are in those categories, what it takes to 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:51.740 move the needle in those categories, and then 00:05:51.740 --> 00:05:54.420 to be able to take action on those things. So 00:05:54.420 --> 00:05:56.720 almost, not the exact definition, but... our 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:59.379 definitions are pretty darn close um and i love 00:05:59.379 --> 00:06:02.279 that because you're right um i'm winning i'm 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:03.540 winning in all areas it doesn't mean that i'm 00:06:03.540 --> 00:06:05.480 perfect and it definitely doesn't mean that i've 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:06.779 achieved all that i'm going to achieve because 00:06:06.779 --> 00:06:08.899 even on a scale of 1 to 10 what i have found 00:06:08.899 --> 00:06:12.199 is that when i quote unquote reach the 10 then 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:16.220 the scale turns into 20 or you know or it resets 00:06:16.220 --> 00:06:19.660 and now 10 becomes one um because at the end 00:06:19.660 --> 00:06:21.819 of the day we're all on this journey uh called 00:06:21.819 --> 00:06:24.819 life and i just happen to believe that my potential 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:27.480 I'll actually never reach it. That's the game 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:30.779 that I get to play is reaching for all that I'm 00:06:30.779 --> 00:06:33.879 meant to be, that I'm created to be. And I get 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:36.720 every waking moment to be able to. to go after 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:38.860 that. And so, yeah, so as far as Gathering the 00:06:38.860 --> 00:06:40.459 Kings, the structure, yes, we've got a mastermind 00:06:40.459 --> 00:06:43.439 community, you know, where high performing entrepreneurs 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:46.600 come together. We've got a community app. We 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:49.680 do live Zoom calls. We do in -person events. 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:52.860 We try to mix up the environment and we're pretty 00:06:52.860 --> 00:06:55.839 experiential. You know, I think a lot of entrepreneurs 00:06:55.839 --> 00:07:01.189 learn from, from doing as, or, or. Getting in 00:07:01.189 --> 00:07:04.170 motion as opposed to just sitting and listening, 00:07:04.269 --> 00:07:06.589 although there's definitely an element of sitting 00:07:06.589 --> 00:07:09.329 and listening and being a student. I'm a big 00:07:09.329 --> 00:07:11.750 fan of that, actually, but I just know that in 00:07:11.750 --> 00:07:17.129 today's world, attention spans are less. We're 00:07:17.129 --> 00:07:19.269 preparing for an event. We'll be in Boston next 00:07:19.269 --> 00:07:21.610 week. A good chunk of our members will be out 00:07:21.610 --> 00:07:24.560 there. We'll have a very experiential weekend. 00:07:24.620 --> 00:07:26.560 We'll start with the Red Sox game and we've got 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:28.319 some cool stuff downtown planned on Saturday. 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:30.199 But in the midst of that, I've got some speakers 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:32.620 lined up throughout the weekend and we're going 00:07:32.620 --> 00:07:35.800 to plan to grow and develop and transform. And, 00:07:35.819 --> 00:07:38.339 you know, the relationships will be transformed. 00:07:38.339 --> 00:07:40.540 But a lot of times what most people don't recognize 00:07:40.540 --> 00:07:43.319 in an event like that, especially with what we 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.910 do as a mastermind community, is that. The conversations 00:07:46.910 --> 00:07:48.670 that are going to happen at dinner that I didn't 00:07:48.670 --> 00:07:50.329 facilitate or the conversations that are going 00:07:50.329 --> 00:07:53.050 to be on the transportation from the game back 00:07:53.050 --> 00:07:55.569 to the hotel are oftentimes the most powerful. 00:07:55.709 --> 00:07:57.629 And I didn't facilitate it. I didn't organize 00:07:57.629 --> 00:08:00.610 it. But I did kind of in a way. I gathered everybody 00:08:00.610 --> 00:08:03.500 together, right? Gathering the kings. And I just 00:08:03.500 --> 00:08:05.459 brought everybody to the same table and I allowed 00:08:05.459 --> 00:08:09.339 the conversation to happen, which is is is cool 00:08:09.339 --> 00:08:11.579 because it doesn't have to be me. Right. I like 00:08:11.579 --> 00:08:13.720 a little bit of humble pie here that. Yeah, sure. 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:15.160 I figured out a couple of things, but there's 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:16.560 plenty of other people that have figured out 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:18.180 a couple of things. And I think that we're more 00:08:18.180 --> 00:08:20.860 powerful together than we are separate. So, yeah, 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.519 that's so good. And I'm really appreciating this 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:27.100 conversation. And I and I there's a couple of 00:08:27.100 --> 00:08:29.379 things that I want our viewers and listeners 00:08:29.379 --> 00:08:34.480 to really tap into. What you're talking about, 00:08:34.620 --> 00:08:36.480 you didn't use this word, but what you're talking 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:42.159 about, I believe, is proximity. Yeah. When we 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:50.500 get into proximity, we have new access to, well, 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:57.100 opportunity. Yeah. Relationships, insights, compensation. 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:02.179 Right. Right. So. And one of the things you said 00:09:02.179 --> 00:09:04.779 on your website was one of the biggest enemies 00:09:04.779 --> 00:09:08.460 of the entrepreneur is isolation. Yeah, it is. 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:12.379 Yeah, I'm raising my hand right now. I've been 00:09:12.379 --> 00:09:17.440 there, done that, right? But when we break out 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:20.679 of isolation and really pay attention to this 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:24.200 thing called proximity, things can begin to shift 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:28.519 rapidly. And that proximity. Like you said, that 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:31.399 might be on the bus ride to the game or it might 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:34.840 be at the at the at the lunch while you're waiting 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:39.379 in line. You know, it's any. Are you in proximity? 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:44.480 Who are you in proximity to? Yeah. Yeah. I say 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:46.019 the five people that you're around, you become 00:09:46.019 --> 00:09:48.379 most like, you know, the one word that sticks 00:09:48.379 --> 00:09:50.220 out to me as far as proximity. I love that word. 00:09:50.700 --> 00:09:53.919 To me, it's always been courage. Like if I can 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:56.700 get around Fletcher. Right. And even in our time 00:09:56.700 --> 00:10:00.610 here today. It's like, if you can do it, I can 00:10:00.610 --> 00:10:02.230 do it, right? You put on your pants the same 00:10:02.230 --> 00:10:04.090 way that I do. I put on my pants the same way 00:10:04.090 --> 00:10:06.330 your listener does. And so someone might be listening 00:10:06.330 --> 00:10:08.570 to this going, okay, you got this big fancy title 00:10:08.570 --> 00:10:10.950 or this big fancy intro of who Chaz Wolf is, 00:10:10.990 --> 00:10:12.750 is a serial entrepreneur, you know, a millionaire 00:10:12.750 --> 00:10:14.389 by 29, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:10:14.450 --> 00:10:16.730 It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Regular 00:10:16.730 --> 00:10:19.889 dude, grew up single mom family, had nothing 00:10:19.889 --> 00:10:23.570 handed to him, literally read books to learn 00:10:23.570 --> 00:10:26.350 because I didn't go to college, nothing. And 00:10:26.350 --> 00:10:28.379 so. If I can do it, you can do it. And I think 00:10:28.379 --> 00:10:31.240 you're right. You get all the value of proximity 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:35.759 of the tactics and the this and the that. I have 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:37.879 just, for me, I've just needed courage, man. 00:10:38.019 --> 00:10:40.179 Like if I can get into a room and I can see you 00:10:40.179 --> 00:10:42.100 winning, that's why I love you started with the 00:10:42.100 --> 00:10:44.379 win, man. It's like, if you can win, then I can 00:10:44.379 --> 00:10:47.000 win. If you can set a target and then take consistent 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:49.220 action towards it per your definition of success, 00:10:49.379 --> 00:10:53.370 then I can, you know? Yes, yes. And I love that. 00:10:53.470 --> 00:10:58.789 And when we are gathered together, we get to 00:10:58.789 --> 00:11:01.029 see that up close. We get to see other people's 00:11:01.029 --> 00:11:04.330 stories up close. We get to see and be with other 00:11:04.330 --> 00:11:06.809 courageous people. Yeah, that's right. And that's 00:11:06.809 --> 00:11:09.409 inspiring. That's infectious, right? Yeah, people 00:11:09.409 --> 00:11:11.169 walk away from an event and they go, what did 00:11:11.169 --> 00:11:12.950 you get from it? What are you walking away with? 00:11:13.029 --> 00:11:14.669 And sometimes they say something like, well, 00:11:14.750 --> 00:11:16.909 I heard so -and -so, they do this marketing campaign 00:11:16.909 --> 00:11:18.250 and I'm going to give it a shot. That's every 00:11:18.250 --> 00:11:19.990 now and then, but most of the time they're walking 00:11:19.990 --> 00:11:24.750 away going. Man, I just – I feel like I can go 00:11:24.750 --> 00:11:27.610 accomplish the whatever or run up the hill or 00:11:27.610 --> 00:11:29.490 run through a wall, whatever they – however they 00:11:29.490 --> 00:11:31.070 would describe it. It's because they got around 00:11:31.070 --> 00:11:33.789 to the people who they see themselves in, and 00:11:33.789 --> 00:11:36.429 they're like, well, shoot. They're dealing with 00:11:36.429 --> 00:11:39.649 the same stuff. My crazy entrepreneurial journey 00:11:39.649 --> 00:11:43.950 that feels heavy, it is, but guess what? If he 00:11:43.950 --> 00:11:45.830 can carry it or she can carry it, I can carry 00:11:45.830 --> 00:11:47.570 it. And guess what? If we're together actually 00:11:47.570 --> 00:11:49.149 carrying it, the whole thing gets a whole lot 00:11:49.149 --> 00:11:53.240 lighter. Yeah. Yeah, I love all the stuff you're 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:55.220 saying here. And by the way, if you're thinking, 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:58.740 oh, yeah, but Chaz, you know, he's got all this 00:11:58.740 --> 00:12:01.100 experience. He's got something special. He's 00:12:01.100 --> 00:12:03.940 got that it factor, that X factor, whatever it 00:12:03.940 --> 00:12:07.759 is. What I want you to hear, he just said, was 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:10.559 talking about courage. And whenever I hear people 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:14.139 talk about courage, I immediately know they're 00:12:14.139 --> 00:12:18.000 just like me because what they're actually saying. 00:12:18.940 --> 00:12:22.600 Is I have a, I have fear. Yeah. Because the only 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:24.860 time that you can be courageous is when fear 00:12:24.860 --> 00:12:29.360 is present. Right. So good. Yep. So I love already 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:32.259 what Chaz is saying. I can identify with him 00:12:32.259 --> 00:12:34.399 because he's talking about being courageous. 00:12:34.500 --> 00:12:38.340 I know that he has fear and I can relate to that 00:12:38.340 --> 00:12:40.620 because I got a lot of it. Got a lot of fear. 00:12:40.899 --> 00:12:44.120 Yeah. Right. Yeah. So, and we get together with 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:47.379 those other people and we realize, oh. I'm not 00:12:47.379 --> 00:12:51.559 the only one that's fearful. Right. Yep. Yeah. 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:52.899 In fact, in fact, it's not just, I'm the only 00:12:52.899 --> 00:12:56.120 one. It becomes normal. Like my crazy becomes 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:59.139 normalized and it's like, Oh, you know, the, 00:12:59.220 --> 00:13:00.820 the stressful moment that you hear that, you 00:13:00.820 --> 00:13:02.059 know, that you feel the entrepreneur is just 00:13:02.059 --> 00:13:03.779 like, you know, head or the hands on their head 00:13:03.779 --> 00:13:05.620 and they're on their desk and you're not going 00:13:05.620 --> 00:13:07.340 to make payroll, whatever the scenario is that 00:13:07.340 --> 00:13:08.460 you've got this picture in your brain of this 00:13:08.460 --> 00:13:11.059 stressed out entrepreneur. And then you get around 00:13:11.059 --> 00:13:13.080 with humans like, Oh no, no, no. That was just 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.309 me last week, buddy. And then a breakthrough 00:13:15.309 --> 00:13:17.529 comes through or whatever. You make the deal 00:13:17.529 --> 00:13:21.950 or – like that is the story actually. It's not 00:13:21.950 --> 00:13:24.769 necessarily a constant up and down per se, but 00:13:24.769 --> 00:13:27.110 we just live a different life as entrepreneurs. 00:13:27.289 --> 00:13:31.509 And to know that it's normal, you walk away and 00:13:31.509 --> 00:13:32.669 you walk – you come back and you're like, oh, 00:13:32.690 --> 00:13:35.480 okay. Well, if it's normal – then then it's no 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:37.620 big deal i'm not going to let every blow hit 00:13:37.620 --> 00:13:40.700 me so hard i'm actually taking it into proportion 00:13:40.700 --> 00:13:42.879 of going oh this is just part of how this is 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:45.179 just this is just it okay cool no this is what 00:13:45.179 --> 00:13:48.220 i signed up for no big deal you know yes yeah 00:13:48.220 --> 00:13:50.960 yeah i really appreciate that um i recently joined 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:53.200 a mastermind and that's one of the things that 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:57.539 i i i enjoy about it every week is that it's 00:13:57.539 --> 00:14:02.340 it's affirming like oh yeah This isn't just me. 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:05.700 It is actually the norm. This is par for the 00:14:05.700 --> 00:14:08.460 course. The entrepreneurial course is a roller 00:14:08.460 --> 00:14:11.620 coaster of ups and downs. I mean, that's life 00:14:11.620 --> 00:14:13.899 in general. But if you're in that entrepreneurial 00:14:13.899 --> 00:14:17.720 game, man, expect those highs up, high down. 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:19.440 Well, the truth is, is that we wouldn't have 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:21.179 it any other way because the way that we're wired, 00:14:21.259 --> 00:14:22.879 generally speaking, we use the predictive index, 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:25.980 but there's probably three or four profiles that 00:14:25.980 --> 00:14:29.340 an entrepreneur fits into most likely. And that 00:14:29.340 --> 00:14:33.480 individual doesn't like. the basic ride at the 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:36.039 amusement park and and that's why they became 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:39.320 an entrepreneur there's this one part of them 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:41.659 that's just like oh my gosh another up and down 00:14:41.659 --> 00:14:44.059 but then but then if we took that away from them 00:14:44.059 --> 00:14:46.159 and gave them a smooth road they'd be they'd 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:49.000 be bored instantly and they would go create an 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:51.000 up and down you know they got their own tire 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:53.659 just to figure it out you know like this is just 00:14:53.659 --> 00:14:56.389 what we do as entrepreneurs you know so You have 00:14:56.389 --> 00:14:58.929 to, you have to like normalize it. So you embrace 00:14:58.929 --> 00:15:00.730 the up and down and going, Oh, this is actually, 00:15:00.769 --> 00:15:02.149 you know, it's not what I just signed up for. 00:15:02.169 --> 00:15:04.690 Yes. But it's like, I get to enjoy it. Right. 00:15:04.769 --> 00:15:06.149 Cause this is, this is actually what brings me 00:15:06.149 --> 00:15:08.870 joy, even though it's stressful and it gets my 00:15:08.870 --> 00:15:11.830 heart rate up. This is how I'm designed, you 00:15:11.830 --> 00:15:14.870 know, to, to operate. Yeah. You get it. And, 00:15:15.029 --> 00:15:17.190 and a couple of times on this already in our 00:15:17.190 --> 00:15:20.269 conversation, you, you use the phrasing like 00:15:20.269 --> 00:15:24.409 I get to. Yeah. Yeah. This is a privilege. This 00:15:24.409 --> 00:15:27.970 is an opportunity. Yeah, I get to do this. I 00:15:27.970 --> 00:15:32.669 get to experience this. And it's so such a different 00:15:32.669 --> 00:15:34.789 perspective than like, oh, my God, I have to. 00:15:35.009 --> 00:15:37.169 Right. Right. I mean, the opposite is go get 00:15:37.169 --> 00:15:38.590 a job. I mean, I guess go get a nine to five 00:15:38.590 --> 00:15:40.429 and every entrepreneur rolls their eyes and goes, 00:15:40.490 --> 00:15:43.029 yeah, right. I'd rather work 80 hours for myself 00:15:43.029 --> 00:15:46.009 than 40 hours for someone else. And although 00:15:46.009 --> 00:15:47.809 I don't I'm not a proponent of working 80 hours, 00:15:47.909 --> 00:15:51.090 I think that that autonomy is how we're designed. 00:15:51.289 --> 00:15:53.009 And so it's like, OK, great. Well, what you signed 00:15:53.009 --> 00:15:56.590 up for is. um some some strategy and some think 00:15:56.590 --> 00:15:59.110 so we gotta we gotta we gotta solve those uh 00:15:59.110 --> 00:16:01.169 so that because this isn't gonna stop you know 00:16:01.169 --> 00:16:05.690 right right no it's not gonna stop uh until the 00:16:05.690 --> 00:16:10.450 game until the ride's over yeah um so if someone's 00:16:10.450 --> 00:16:14.029 listening to this and they're like i like what 00:16:14.029 --> 00:16:17.470 i'm hearing interesting um gathering the kings 00:16:17.470 --> 00:16:21.210 having a community having a mastermind yeah um 00:16:21.210 --> 00:16:24.470 maybe no one's ever done this before Talk to 00:16:24.470 --> 00:16:27.269 the person who's never really stepped forward 00:16:27.269 --> 00:16:30.610 and thrown their hat in the ring and joined a 00:16:30.610 --> 00:16:35.830 mastermind or a group like yours. Yeah. The person 00:16:35.830 --> 00:16:37.909 that's thinking, I've not done this before, but 00:16:37.909 --> 00:16:39.909 that sounds interesting, probably falls into 00:16:39.909 --> 00:16:44.149 one of two categories. The person that has a 00:16:44.149 --> 00:16:47.029 little bit more self -doubt where they think, 00:16:47.090 --> 00:16:49.340 well, what could I bring to the table? And that 00:16:49.340 --> 00:16:52.879 individual needs community and needs other entrepreneurs. 00:16:53.059 --> 00:16:54.840 They need proximity like you talked about because 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:57.080 they need to have courage. They need to have 00:16:57.080 --> 00:17:02.080 belief like breathed into them because when you 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:04.279 start hearing tactics and strategies and stories 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:06.480 of other people that have done what you're trying 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:10.599 to do, it elevates the game immediately. I can't 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:12.880 tell you how many times someone has come to us 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:14.900 in that same fashion of like, well, I don't really 00:17:14.900 --> 00:17:18.700 know what I bring to the table. I know that we're 00:17:18.700 --> 00:17:20.400 all obviously created in God's image and we all 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:22.420 have value and then we all have our own experience. 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:25.440 And so your experience, although maybe you feel 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:28.240 like it's less than, still offers something unique 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:31.200 to the story of the group. And so I would say 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:34.359 put your hat in the ring, as you mentioned, because 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:37.579 one, you don't know what you don't know and people 00:17:37.579 --> 00:17:40.380 need to hear your story. And more than anything, 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:42.859 you probably need to hear theirs as well. For 00:17:42.859 --> 00:17:44.700 the other person that's considering that thinks 00:17:44.700 --> 00:17:48.220 that maybe. They've got it all together and they're 00:17:48.220 --> 00:17:50.259 wondering, well, who's in the room? Who could 00:17:50.259 --> 00:17:53.079 I really get value from? Which is fine. There's 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:55.019 no big deal. It's kind of how masterminds work. 00:17:55.140 --> 00:17:57.039 You know, the $1 million guy doesn't want to 00:17:57.039 --> 00:17:58.819 be around the half million dollar guy. The $5 00:17:58.819 --> 00:18:00.640 million guy doesn't want to be around the $1 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.859 million guy and so forth and so on. And so, okay, 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:05.059 so who are you going to be around? Well, first 00:18:05.059 --> 00:18:07.140 off, I would challenge the way that you're thinking 00:18:07.140 --> 00:18:10.220 a slight bit. And I would say that if you're 00:18:10.220 --> 00:18:13.960 only looking at revenue, then... You may not 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:15.700 fully understand what it means to be successful 00:18:15.700 --> 00:18:18.559 because I can find you a lot of very successful, 00:18:18.700 --> 00:18:22.240 financially speaking, people who don't have a 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:24.019 quality marriage. They don't know their kids. 00:18:24.180 --> 00:18:26.400 And I don't want to know from those people because 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:29.839 to me, the value of having all of it is way more 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:32.579 important. That doesn't mean necessarily that 00:18:32.579 --> 00:18:34.240 you should get around just a bunch of small business 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:35.940 owners who are family oriented. That's not what 00:18:35.940 --> 00:18:37.700 I'm saying. But I'm saying that you should open 00:18:37.700 --> 00:18:40.900 up your mind to. How can I win in all areas of 00:18:40.900 --> 00:18:43.160 life? And sometimes there's things that I can 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:44.519 learn from other people who maybe have a smaller 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:46.819 business than me because they figured out a couple 00:18:46.819 --> 00:18:48.859 of other components. Cool. The other thing is 00:18:48.859 --> 00:18:50.980 that, sure, you should be skeptical around who's 00:18:50.980 --> 00:18:53.240 in the room. And I would tell you that the people 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:55.119 that are in the room inside of Gathering the 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:57.099 Kings range from obviously the million -dollar 00:18:57.099 --> 00:19:00.839 guy to the $30 million guy. But everywhere in 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:04.259 between is going to be a family -oriented, down 00:19:04.259 --> 00:19:07.619 -to -earth, growth -minded person. And so I would 00:19:07.619 --> 00:19:10.099 say that we've got different tiers specifically 00:19:10.099 --> 00:19:12.059 designed so that that person can make sure that 00:19:12.059 --> 00:19:14.319 they're in the right spot and that they're feeling 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:16.460 like they're pushing to the next level. I think 00:19:16.460 --> 00:19:18.980 that getting around peers is important. I think 00:19:18.980 --> 00:19:20.480 around getting around people who are bigger than 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:22.059 you is important and being around people who 00:19:22.059 --> 00:19:23.880 are smaller than you is important. And so I think 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:26.359 there's a mixture of all of those things that 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:28.740 that person needs to probably understand that 00:19:28.740 --> 00:19:31.940 they need for success. Yeah. Yeah. Well said. 00:19:32.740 --> 00:19:40.039 And basically, just to recap, you have value. 00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:44.779 You will get value. Yeah. Show up, right? Yeah. 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:46.579 Yeah. Yeah. Because if you don't show up, then 00:19:46.579 --> 00:19:49.339 you can't engage. You can't have the enlightening 00:19:49.339 --> 00:19:51.099 conversations that you mentioned earlier, whether 00:19:51.099 --> 00:19:54.740 we're at the ballpark or on a Zoom. And otherwise, 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:56.720 it's just something that you say that you do 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:58.740 that you don't. And that's not really success 00:19:58.740 --> 00:20:02.940 anyway. Yeah. And, and I also want to just take 00:20:02.940 --> 00:20:06.460 a pause and highlight this other thing that you 00:20:06.460 --> 00:20:10.339 have brought forth a couple of times, you know, 00:20:10.339 --> 00:20:14.200 you were, you're talking about winning and, and, 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:17.519 and for me that, that phrase could have been 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:20.500 triggering years ago because it would have highlighted 00:20:20.500 --> 00:20:23.000 the fact that I wasn't winning and I was losing 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:25.380 and I would, and it would have felt competitive 00:20:25.380 --> 00:20:30.200 to me. But years later, when i hear you saying 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:33.299 this i'm i i really want to ask our listeners 00:20:33.299 --> 00:20:37.299 to ask themselves this question like am i winning 00:20:37.299 --> 00:20:41.319 yeah am i winning in my marriage right i mean 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:43.880 we're not talking about a competitive here we're 00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:45.819 not comp you're not competing with your is your 00:20:45.819 --> 00:20:51.180 marriage winning right right is it is it is it 00:20:51.180 --> 00:20:55.940 growing is it expanding is your parenting Are 00:20:55.940 --> 00:21:00.059 you winning in the arena of parenting? Are you 00:21:00.059 --> 00:21:03.099 connecting? Are you having authentic connection 00:21:03.099 --> 00:21:10.259 with your kids? In your finances, is your account 00:21:10.259 --> 00:21:13.700 growing? Is your money working for you? Are you 00:21:13.700 --> 00:21:16.859 learning more about how to get your money to 00:21:16.859 --> 00:21:21.779 work for you? Are you setting yourself up for... 00:21:22.170 --> 00:21:25.509 uh later success and accomplishment you know 00:21:25.509 --> 00:21:31.130 ask yourself am am i winning in my life and just 00:21:31.130 --> 00:21:33.750 have answer it you know are there areas where 00:21:33.750 --> 00:21:36.789 gosh you know i'm not winning the way that i 00:21:36.789 --> 00:21:39.970 would like to be winning sure yeah let's get 00:21:39.970 --> 00:21:42.390 curious right i mean isn't we want to get curious 00:21:42.390 --> 00:21:48.119 about where am i winning where am i not and How 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:51.660 can I, if it's important to me, to improve that 00:21:51.660 --> 00:21:54.180 area, right? Yeah, of course. Yeah, it all starts, 00:21:54.339 --> 00:21:57.339 it all, growth starts with intention. And so 00:21:57.339 --> 00:21:59.380 what you're talking about is being aware of where 00:21:59.380 --> 00:22:02.500 you are first, right? You can't go to the destination 00:22:02.500 --> 00:22:04.640 of B if you don't figure out first where you're 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:08.680 at, which is A. And so the roadmap then can begin, 00:22:08.859 --> 00:22:11.680 the roadmap of intention, you know, because all 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:13.420 of the winning that you're talking about, all 00:22:13.420 --> 00:22:16.039 those areas, nobody's going to write down a 10. 00:22:16.620 --> 00:22:18.819 which is great, good for you. And so then you 00:22:18.819 --> 00:22:20.700 can identify whether you're at a three or a seven. 00:22:21.819 --> 00:22:24.380 Well, what is a 10? And okay, great. So now we've 00:22:24.380 --> 00:22:26.660 got A and B and we start building the roadmap 00:22:26.660 --> 00:22:30.440 of the intentions that I can take in your finance 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:33.279 or in your business or in your kids or whatever 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:36.460 the scenario is or your health. Like, okay, the 00:22:36.460 --> 00:22:38.640 next 90 days, like, what does it look like? What 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:41.160 are the intentions that I'm setting? What are 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:43.640 the actions that I'm going to intentionally take? 00:22:44.449 --> 00:22:46.730 To be able to to be able to hit the targets and 00:22:46.730 --> 00:22:49.029 sometimes sometimes we hit them. Sometimes we 00:22:49.029 --> 00:22:50.670 blow past them Sometimes we don't and we have 00:22:50.670 --> 00:22:53.390 to reset the target. Okay, cool Let's hit them 00:22:53.390 --> 00:22:54.569 again for the next 90 days and let's hit them 00:22:54.569 --> 00:22:56.289 again for the next 90 days and and that that 00:22:56.289 --> 00:22:59.369 now becomes a rhythm of just What successful 00:22:59.369 --> 00:23:03.289 people do you know? Yeah, I like I like let's 00:23:03.289 --> 00:23:06.250 let's let's repeat that That becomes a rhythm 00:23:06.250 --> 00:23:10.930 of what successful people do And if you didn't 00:23:10.930 --> 00:23:15.009 hear what he said that rhythm is setting an intention 00:23:15.009 --> 00:23:19.289 taking intentional deliberate action noticing 00:23:19.289 --> 00:23:24.789 the results and then reassessing resetting or 00:23:24.789 --> 00:23:28.950 celebrating right yeah that becomes the rhythm 00:23:28.950 --> 00:23:33.549 um and so if you feel like on this entrepreneurial 00:23:33.549 --> 00:23:35.890 journey like god i've been here before yeah because 00:23:35.890 --> 00:23:39.170 it's a rhythm yeah yeah yeah right yeah really 00:23:39.170 --> 00:23:45.049 really good um So let's tell people how they 00:23:45.049 --> 00:23:48.430 can get in touch with you, how they can check 00:23:48.430 --> 00:23:52.650 out what your mastermind looks like. I've investigated, 00:23:52.750 --> 00:23:54.869 but let's hear from you. Tell us where to go 00:23:54.869 --> 00:23:57.549 and how to connect. Yeah, gatherinthekings .com 00:23:57.549 --> 00:23:59.170 is our website. You can take a look at some of 00:23:59.170 --> 00:24:00.769 the cool things we do there as a mastermind community. 00:24:01.509 --> 00:24:04.410 If you're specifically interested in our family 00:24:04.410 --> 00:24:05.950 mastermind vacation that I kind of mentioned 00:24:05.950 --> 00:24:08.930 that we do in the summer times, we've got one 00:24:08.930 --> 00:24:12.140 set up for 2026. That'll be June of 2026. We 00:24:12.140 --> 00:24:13.819 do them typically in June every single year, 00:24:13.900 --> 00:24:15.640 so even if you're listening to this years later, 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.619 I'm sure it'll still be there. But gtkfamilymastermind 00:24:18.619 --> 00:24:20.859 .com, we'll give you all the details there. You 00:24:20.859 --> 00:24:22.420 can book a call with our team to learn all the 00:24:22.420 --> 00:24:25.519 details. We're pretty curated from a mastermind 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:28.500 or the family stuff. As you can imagine, I'm 00:24:28.500 --> 00:24:30.339 there, my wife's there, my kids are there, or 00:24:30.339 --> 00:24:33.599 the circle of kings that I've developed is highly 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:36.279 curated. And so we have an interview process. 00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:38.440 It may or may not be right for you, but we're 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:41.450 happy to chat and to see if it is. Right on, 00:24:41.529 --> 00:24:45.009 right on. Chas, thanks so much for being on the 00:24:45.009 --> 00:24:48.269 show. Really, really appreciate the work you're 00:24:48.269 --> 00:24:50.369 doing in the world. Thanks for being a source 00:24:50.369 --> 00:24:55.670 of contribution. And I'd love to have you back 00:24:55.670 --> 00:24:59.930 in a few months and hear what else is new and 00:24:59.930 --> 00:25:02.150 what the impact that you and your group are making. 00:25:02.849 --> 00:25:05.160 Again, thanks for being on the show. Yeah. Fletcher, 00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:06.380 thanks for having me. And if you're listening 00:25:06.380 --> 00:25:08.279 to this right now and you got value, go drop 00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:09.880 a five star review for Fletcher and the show 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:11.940 and all those things help him continue to bring 00:25:11.940 --> 00:25:14.759 on amazing guests. Right on. And now you all 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:16.279 know what it's time to do. It's time to get out 00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:19.160 there. Be a source of kindness. Be a source of 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:21.500 contribution. You do have something to offer 00:25:21.500 --> 00:25:24.339 this world. And I believe in you. Thank you for 00:25:24.339 --> 00:25:26.339 being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned 00:25:26.339 --> 00:25:28.619 in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to 00:25:28.619 --> 00:25:31.900 seeing your reactions as these episodes continue 00:25:31.900 --> 00:25:33.680 to move forward. This is going to get more and 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:35.740 more fun. We'll have more and more engagement 00:25:35.740 --> 00:25:37.819 as well. We'll invite people to participate in 00:25:37.819 --> 00:25:40.000 the show. And thank you for giving us your time 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.279 and attention. Have an excellent time building 00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:44.619 out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.