WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.620 hey everybody welcome back to another episode 00:00:01.620 --> 00:00:04.480 of vision pros live i'm your host and coach fletcher 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:07.040 ellingson i'm so glad you're here i'm so glad 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:10.460 that you are in this conversation because in 00:00:10.460 --> 00:00:13.720 these conversations we're meeting people and 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:17.620 discussing vision and a vision is a clarified 00:00:17.620 --> 00:00:21.079 story in the mind that we are efforting to bring 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:24.100 into the physical realm this is a topic that's 00:00:24.100 --> 00:00:27.620 always of interest to me i love the creation 00:00:27.620 --> 00:00:32.950 process from story to reality today on the show 00:00:32.950 --> 00:00:35.689 we've got paul pape welcome to the show paul 00:00:35.689 --> 00:00:38.409 thanks for having me i appreciate it yeah and 00:00:38.409 --> 00:00:42.070 uh you are with gamify business yes yep that's 00:00:42.070 --> 00:00:44.909 correct we're going to jump into what you do 00:00:44.909 --> 00:00:48.770 and who you help but first we want to take just 00:00:48.770 --> 00:00:52.509 a moment and i want you to share something that's 00:00:52.509 --> 00:00:54.750 going well in your life either professionally 00:00:54.750 --> 00:00:57.969 or personally we want to remind people that we 00:00:57.969 --> 00:01:01.130 are the cause of good in our lives despite what 00:01:01.130 --> 00:01:04.269 else is going else on in the world we still can 00:01:04.269 --> 00:01:09.329 create good feel -good events situations so lay 00:01:09.329 --> 00:01:12.219 it on us what's going well for you One of my 00:01:12.219 --> 00:01:15.420 clients just finally hit the seven -figure milestone 00:01:15.420 --> 00:01:19.700 in their business through my help. Kind of rerouted 00:01:19.700 --> 00:01:21.420 the business there and it started climbing into 00:01:21.420 --> 00:01:23.239 the right direction and they finally hit that 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.200 one. So that was a big win for all of us. And 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:28.239 my second one is kind of a personal one, but 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:31.480 this Wednesday I turned 50 years old. So it's 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:35.599 a huge win for me in that regard. Yeah, right 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:39.680 on, right on. Welcome to the 50s Club. That's 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:44.239 great. You know, in many regards, if you arrived 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:47.180 at your 50s, you beat the odds. A lot of people 00:01:47.180 --> 00:01:50.659 don't make it there. Right. Yeah. And and you 00:01:50.659 --> 00:01:53.120 look like you're you look like you're in good 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:57.480 health and able bodied. So right on, dude. Just 00:01:57.480 --> 00:02:00.359 plowing through it still feels like 40s. Yes. 00:02:02.700 --> 00:02:07.109 Hey, so gamify business. I took a look at your 00:02:07.109 --> 00:02:08.849 website, but I'm not going to spill the beans. 00:02:09.310 --> 00:02:14.189 But I will say that it definitely piqued my interest. 00:02:14.469 --> 00:02:16.569 It looked like something unique. It looked like 00:02:16.569 --> 00:02:20.750 something different. And I like that you're talking 00:02:20.750 --> 00:02:25.710 to addressing a different type of mind, a way 00:02:25.710 --> 00:02:27.710 that people process. But I'll get out of the 00:02:27.710 --> 00:02:30.569 way. What does Gamify Business do and who do 00:02:30.569 --> 00:02:34.550 you help? So Gamify Business is essentially... 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:40.960 The ability to become an entrepreneur, the twist 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:43.919 that I have on it is that we don't use the traditional 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:47.039 means of doing business. There's no NBA required. 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:49.900 My level of entry is if you can have a lemonade 00:02:49.900 --> 00:02:52.460 stand, you can be an entrepreneur. What we do 00:02:52.460 --> 00:02:55.560 instead is we use. terminology and framework 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:57.840 that is very familiar to most people, which is 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:00.319 gaming. If you've ever played a game on your 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:03.520 phone or on a tabletop or whatever, if you understand 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:06.460 the basic parameters of gaming, then you'll understand 00:03:06.460 --> 00:03:12.379 this approach to how to run a business. And so 00:03:12.379 --> 00:03:14.819 the people that I'm actually working with, they 00:03:14.819 --> 00:03:17.979 are creative -based people. As a creative -based 00:03:17.979 --> 00:03:20.960 person for over 20 years, I've... worked in many 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:23.879 of the entertainment industries, either behind 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:25.939 the scenes or in front of the camera. And what 00:03:25.939 --> 00:03:28.500 I've learned is that a lot of creative -minded 00:03:28.500 --> 00:03:32.020 people don't think linearly like a lot of business 00:03:32.020 --> 00:03:34.659 -minded people do. And so I had to come up with 00:03:34.659 --> 00:03:36.719 a framework that worked well with people who 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:39.300 kind of thought differently. So instead of trying 00:03:39.300 --> 00:03:41.740 to approach something with a linear approach, 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:45.280 we do it more of a cloud -based, kind of more 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:49.159 story -based. telling and making it more of an 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:52.780 adventure rather than a burdensome task, I guess 00:03:52.780 --> 00:03:56.240 is the best way to put it. Yeah. So I really 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:58.599 like this approach too. I like the whole concept 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:01.719 because one of the things I've always worked 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:06.120 into my curriculum with my clients is that life 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:11.960 is a game, right? I mean, whether you don't have 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:14.639 to agree with that or the people who are listening, 00:04:14.699 --> 00:04:18.600 you don't have to agree with that. I mean, to 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:23.040 me, life is a game. And I'm sure you can speak 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:28.000 to this way more. But it's like, if it is a game, 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:29.959 then you want to get curious, like, okay, what 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:33.360 are the rules here? What are the rules? What's 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:38.100 the objective? Who are the other players? Who's 00:04:38.100 --> 00:04:41.759 the central player? So am I on the right track 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:44.930 here? Yeah, absolutely. And the point of it is, 00:04:44.990 --> 00:04:47.990 and especially from like my roles, if you're 00:04:47.990 --> 00:04:49.329 looking at this in the background, you can kind 00:04:49.329 --> 00:04:50.910 of see I have like this bar looking thing and 00:04:50.910 --> 00:04:53.689 it represents the tavern and I represent the 00:04:53.689 --> 00:04:56.170 barkeep or the wise old sage, the guy that you 00:04:56.170 --> 00:04:59.009 go to that isn't the star of the show. I'm not 00:04:59.009 --> 00:05:01.449 the hero that's out there. You are. and that's 00:05:01.449 --> 00:05:04.509 the whole point of it as a gamified version of 00:05:04.509 --> 00:05:07.589 your business you are the star of your adventure 00:05:07.589 --> 00:05:09.889 and there will always be supporting characters 00:05:09.889 --> 00:05:12.470 around that but the reality is is the dragon 00:05:12.470 --> 00:05:14.870 that you're fighting is success and so what we 00:05:14.870 --> 00:05:17.110 want to do is we want to build you up your character 00:05:17.110 --> 00:05:19.810 build up your kingdom and then find the right 00:05:19.810 --> 00:05:22.769 party members hence the the tavern motif here 00:05:22.769 --> 00:05:25.550 to help elevate you to the most well -rounded 00:05:25.550 --> 00:05:28.490 version of a business that you can have so that 00:05:28.490 --> 00:05:31.149 when you do go out to slay the dragon, that you 00:05:31.149 --> 00:05:35.670 are successful in it. Yeah, that's fun. I like 00:05:35.670 --> 00:05:38.810 the way you explained that. And I, again, I want, 00:05:38.850 --> 00:05:41.730 you said something really critical there and 00:05:41.730 --> 00:05:44.009 I want our viewers and our listeners to hear 00:05:44.009 --> 00:05:49.050 this. In the story or in the game of life, you 00:05:49.050 --> 00:05:52.370 are the central figure. you are the main protagonist 00:05:52.370 --> 00:05:57.029 you are the star and that's not an arrogant thing 00:05:57.029 --> 00:06:01.490 it simply can't be any other way correct right 00:06:01.490 --> 00:06:05.750 and that means that everyone around you is a 00:06:05.750 --> 00:06:08.589 supporting actor it doesn't mean they're not 00:06:08.589 --> 00:06:13.709 important they're simply not the central figure 00:06:13.709 --> 00:06:16.930 they may be close to the central figure they 00:06:16.930 --> 00:06:20.670 may be once or twice removed so and and i love 00:06:20.670 --> 00:06:24.449 this because and i love the uh terminology it's 00:06:24.449 --> 00:06:28.009 a they're a supporting actor right they are so 00:06:28.009 --> 00:06:30.870 you pick your cast that are going to support 00:06:30.870 --> 00:06:33.410 you and what paul is saying is like he's going 00:06:33.410 --> 00:06:36.889 to be one of your supporters he's going to you're 00:06:36.889 --> 00:06:40.029 going to cast him into your game into your book 00:06:40.029 --> 00:06:44.529 into your movie as a person who's there solely 00:06:44.529 --> 00:06:47.550 to support you did i get that accurately that 00:06:47.550 --> 00:06:51.220 is absolutely correct And it's exciting because 00:06:51.220 --> 00:06:55.220 when you realize that you call people into your 00:06:55.220 --> 00:06:58.879 life, and when you realize that that's actually 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:01.259 what we do, then you can begin to do it deliberately. 00:07:01.459 --> 00:07:04.680 You can begin building a team. And you want somebody 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:08.560 like Paul on your team because he's programmed, 00:07:08.660 --> 00:07:12.779 if you will, in this game. He's programmed with 00:07:12.779 --> 00:07:17.639 the sole purpose. of aiding you for your success 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:20.509 and accomplishment. Yes or no? That's correct. 00:07:20.709 --> 00:07:22.589 And the great thing about being about having 00:07:22.589 --> 00:07:25.649 me in that is that my years of experience, my 00:07:25.649 --> 00:07:27.810 interactions with other adventurers on their 00:07:27.810 --> 00:07:31.329 path helps you along the way. So you don't have 00:07:31.329 --> 00:07:34.050 to know everything. You just have to know someone 00:07:34.050 --> 00:07:37.310 who does. And so as the barkeep, the person you 00:07:37.310 --> 00:07:40.250 can saddle up to pull up a drink and then ask 00:07:40.250 --> 00:07:42.350 those questions, the questions that you really 00:07:42.350 --> 00:07:44.470 just don't know, but you're too afraid to ask. 00:07:44.629 --> 00:07:46.629 That's what I'm here for. And let me tell you, 00:07:46.649 --> 00:07:48.870 as the barkeep, everyone's whispering to me all 00:07:48.870 --> 00:07:50.959 the things. you'd need to know and so it's the 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:53.379 best persona that i can have i thought about 00:07:53.379 --> 00:07:55.339 the wise man in the cave with the sword that 00:07:55.339 --> 00:07:57.620 says it's dangerous outside take this but then 00:07:57.620 --> 00:08:00.199 that's too isolationist and so i thought no let's 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:02.079 do a barkeep because then that's somebody we're 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:06.139 all familiar with yeah and this is so this is 00:08:06.139 --> 00:08:09.800 really quite clever and i really appreciate it 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:12.439 because when i think of all the movies that i 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:20.050 see so many of them have these scenes where they 00:08:20.050 --> 00:08:24.029 are at a bar and there is the there is the the 00:08:24.029 --> 00:08:28.509 bartender and they're asking questions of the 00:08:28.509 --> 00:08:31.329 bar of the bar keep right and and and sometimes 00:08:31.329 --> 00:08:34.950 that bartender is extremely critical in like 00:08:34.950 --> 00:08:39.509 giving a tip right or giving a warning or giving 00:08:39.509 --> 00:08:42.870 encouragement or giving some uh self -reflection 00:08:42.870 --> 00:08:46.809 right yep uh it's really and and because that 00:08:46.809 --> 00:08:50.509 barkeep is hearing so many conversations that's 00:08:50.509 --> 00:08:53.590 correct yeah this is brilliant i love this i 00:08:53.590 --> 00:08:56.490 love that you set yourself up as as the as the 00:08:56.490 --> 00:09:00.549 barkeep that is so cool all right so another 00:09:00.549 --> 00:09:04.490 question for you um because our show is called 00:09:04.490 --> 00:09:09.970 vision pros and so i want to know like i know 00:09:09.970 --> 00:09:11.669 you've got a purpose a mission but i want to 00:09:11.669 --> 00:09:17.669 know like really What is your vision? So my vision 00:09:17.669 --> 00:09:24.669 is to allow people to truly understand that being 00:09:24.669 --> 00:09:27.230 successful, being your own boss, being an entrepreneur 00:09:27.230 --> 00:09:31.370 is not a Mount Everest that requires years and 00:09:31.370 --> 00:09:34.870 years of training and studying to mount. The 00:09:34.870 --> 00:09:36.950 reality is, like I said earlier, you can have 00:09:36.950 --> 00:09:39.909 a lemonade stand. You understand the basics of 00:09:39.909 --> 00:09:43.450 entrepreneurship and that. Following your dreams 00:09:43.450 --> 00:09:46.870 is not something that should be you should be 00:09:46.870 --> 00:09:49.549 scared of. It's an adventure. It should be fun. 00:09:49.730 --> 00:09:52.570 It will be scary at times, but the best adventures 00:09:52.570 --> 00:09:57.190 often are. And so I want people to just recognize 00:09:57.190 --> 00:09:59.330 that in themselves, that there's so much more 00:09:59.330 --> 00:10:02.110 to life than the daily drudgery of a nine to 00:10:02.110 --> 00:10:05.350 five and that their adventure awaits. It awaits 00:10:05.350 --> 00:10:07.350 every single one of us. You just have to be willing 00:10:07.350 --> 00:10:10.830 to take that first step out your door towards 00:10:10.830 --> 00:10:17.090 adventure. Yeah, this is fun. So, again, I want 00:10:17.090 --> 00:10:19.990 to encourage our listeners and viewers to really 00:10:19.990 --> 00:10:24.850 contemplate what he's saying. Like. Entrepreneur, 00:10:24.970 --> 00:10:27.330 the entrepreneurial journey is an adventure. 00:10:28.509 --> 00:10:31.830 Absolutely. And we love adventures, right? Yes. 00:10:31.929 --> 00:10:34.649 Yes. That's what makes life worth living. Right. 00:10:34.730 --> 00:10:37.830 Right there. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, 00:10:37.850 --> 00:10:39.909 like when we go to the movies, we love a good 00:10:39.909 --> 00:10:42.269 like Indiana Jones type movie or a Mission Impossible. 00:10:42.509 --> 00:10:46.350 Right. Those are adventure movies. Yeah. Which 00:10:46.350 --> 00:10:48.690 which then we just then then you and I, we have 00:10:48.690 --> 00:10:52.250 to ask our listeners like. What kind of movie 00:10:52.250 --> 00:10:57.429 are you in right now? Are you in a tragedy? Are 00:10:57.429 --> 00:11:00.649 you in a comedy? Are you in a romance? Are you 00:11:00.649 --> 00:11:02.990 in an event? You know, what kind of movie are 00:11:02.990 --> 00:11:06.500 you in? yeah and and is your movie going your 00:11:06.500 --> 00:11:11.500 way or is it or does it suck right are you looking 00:11:11.500 --> 00:11:15.279 for do you need a new cast do you need a new 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:19.320 yeah right most of us need a new cast absolutely 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:23.220 well and the thing is is like every movie just 00:11:23.220 --> 00:11:26.100 like every movie there's nuance to it and you 00:11:26.100 --> 00:11:28.659 know i I have a lot of people say, well, you're 00:11:28.659 --> 00:11:30.379 geared towards because it's gaming themed or 00:11:30.379 --> 00:11:32.840 you're geared toward kids or young adults. And 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:34.460 I'm like, no, some of my clients are in their 00:11:34.460 --> 00:11:37.440 60s and they're like, I need something different. 00:11:37.500 --> 00:11:39.980 I need a side hustle. I need clarity. I want 00:11:39.980 --> 00:11:43.279 to I finally am out of the rat race and now I've 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:45.700 got time to approach something new, but I don't 00:11:45.700 --> 00:11:47.919 know where to begin. That's exactly what this 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:50.960 is for. So there's no there's no age limit on 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:55.600 pursuing a dream. It's it should be fun. It should 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:58.899 be daunting and scary. And that's what I'm for, 00:11:58.980 --> 00:12:01.740 is I am the guy to help put you at ease. I'm 00:12:01.740 --> 00:12:04.139 the one who can say, if you just take these few 00:12:04.139 --> 00:12:06.580 steps, you'll get down that path. You'll start 00:12:06.580 --> 00:12:08.399 where you want, you know, towards the destination 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:10.820 that you want to go and that you should enjoy 00:12:10.820 --> 00:12:14.059 every bit of it, no matter how stressful, no 00:12:14.059 --> 00:12:17.620 matter how exhilarating it can be. It's all part 00:12:17.620 --> 00:12:20.700 of the journey. It's all part of the fun. So 00:12:20.700 --> 00:12:24.629 cool. I'm really appreciating what you're doing. 00:12:24.769 --> 00:12:27.730 I feel very enthusiastic about this. The reason 00:12:27.730 --> 00:12:30.190 is it is so fresh. This is such a fresh approach. 00:12:30.309 --> 00:12:33.269 Like this is one of the most unique interviews 00:12:33.269 --> 00:12:36.590 I've done just by the fact that you showed up 00:12:36.590 --> 00:12:40.970 in character. You've got the set. I mean, this 00:12:40.970 --> 00:12:44.289 is brilliant. But not only that, because it really, 00:12:44.409 --> 00:12:47.389 as soon as I went to your website, like I was 00:12:47.389 --> 00:12:51.000 like. I began to self -identify, right? There 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:54.159 was a relatability because I am a creative type. 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:59.580 And, and so if you are a creative type and you're 00:12:59.580 --> 00:13:03.340 listening to this, I encourage you to, to, to 00:13:03.340 --> 00:13:07.820 visit Paul's website, check it out. He's got 00:13:07.820 --> 00:13:10.639 some, so what I saw there and you, and you expound 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:12.600 on this, I saw some books you were offering. 00:13:12.759 --> 00:13:15.360 Is that correct? Tell me a little bit about what 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:17.299 those books are and what people can expect in 00:13:17.299 --> 00:13:19.399 those books. So I have three books that I offer. 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:21.240 Here's one of them. This is the one that started 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:23.080 it all. This is the Creative Players Handbook 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:26.000 to Business. And this is a self -led book. If 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.100 you're one of those people who are an adventurous 00:13:28.100 --> 00:13:30.000 type that doesn't need a lot of support in it, 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:32.460 this one is self -led. And inside of it, it starts 00:13:32.460 --> 00:13:35.440 with... The very basics. It starts with your 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.919 character sheet, you yourself. And then from 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:41.039 there, what we do is we figure out what is the 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:43.759 seed to your business. And believe it or not, 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.240 it only takes two questions. A little bit of 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:48.840 introspection, but only two questions. And then 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:52.899 from that seed, we plant it and we build your 00:13:52.899 --> 00:13:55.559 business around it. And so everything that's 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:58.480 in here. can help to lead you to building that 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.779 business itself. The book has a compliment book, 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:03.240 which is the workbook, which you can actually 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:05.240 fill in, has the same information that's in here. 00:14:05.419 --> 00:14:09.340 And then inside this, there are also my trials 00:14:09.340 --> 00:14:12.519 and tribulations. I found over time that the 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:15.279 best way to learn is through stories. through 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:18.500 storytelling. If somebody has had a mishap, we'll 00:14:18.500 --> 00:14:21.139 remember that nugget. And those are, this book 00:14:21.139 --> 00:14:23.139 is chock full of them. Everything that I'm asking 00:14:23.139 --> 00:14:25.879 somebody to do, I give you a reason why, usually 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:29.080 based on a story. And I'll let you in on something 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:31.139 nine out of 10 times. It's because I screwed 00:14:31.139 --> 00:14:33.879 up. And I learn from it. And a lot of people, 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:35.539 they don't want to be the one to screw up. So 00:14:35.539 --> 00:14:37.539 let me take that hit for you, you know. And then 00:14:37.539 --> 00:14:39.940 at the end of this book, there's also four appendices 00:14:39.940 --> 00:14:42.240 filled with resources that will just help you 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:44.019 get on there. And so once you finish this book 00:14:44.019 --> 00:14:45.659 and the workbook that goes with it, then you 00:14:45.659 --> 00:14:48.759 have a 90 day plan of action. This actually creates 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:50.580 your business plan for you. And you have a 90 00:14:50.580 --> 00:14:52.639 day plan of action to start earning real world 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:55.879 money as soon as you finish this. Then the other 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:58.700 book that I have is. This one here, which is 00:14:58.700 --> 00:15:00.860 the Game Master's Guide to Business. This is 00:15:00.860 --> 00:15:04.600 what teaches you how to be the storyteller of 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:07.000 your adventure. Because when you're going out 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:08.740 to meet new people, when you're going out to 00:15:08.740 --> 00:15:12.700 sell, don't sell your stuff. Sell yourself. Because 00:15:12.700 --> 00:15:15.269 you're the reason. that people want to invest 00:15:15.269 --> 00:15:16.909 in the thing that you're selling if we wanted 00:15:16.909 --> 00:15:18.870 widgets we'd go to amazon but if we want something 00:15:18.870 --> 00:15:21.250 from an entrepreneur it's because we're investing 00:15:21.250 --> 00:15:23.929 in the person behind it and this book here really 00:15:23.929 --> 00:15:27.370 helps you to understand the story that goes behind 00:15:27.370 --> 00:15:29.889 your adventure so that when you are pitching 00:15:29.889 --> 00:15:32.169 it to other people you're not just selling stuff 00:15:32.169 --> 00:15:35.990 you're selling yourself and my third object which 00:15:35.990 --> 00:15:37.590 is going to be posted here in the next week or 00:15:37.590 --> 00:15:39.490 so so probably well we'll see when this comes 00:15:39.490 --> 00:15:43.169 out but is a familiar digital familiar training 00:15:43.169 --> 00:15:45.289 program that i'm doing because if there's one 00:15:45.289 --> 00:15:47.230 thing that an entrepreneur wishes they had as 00:15:47.230 --> 00:15:50.669 a clone let me tell you if i like my wife constantly 00:15:50.669 --> 00:15:53.269 saying if we'd only find another paul you would 00:15:53.269 --> 00:15:55.600 be set And so what I did is I figured out how 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:59.440 to utilize AI to not go out and search the Internet 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:01.820 and give you generic responses, but to technically 00:16:01.820 --> 00:16:05.899 take my mind and I can now converse with a digital 00:16:05.899 --> 00:16:08.799 clone of myself. And so it becomes my familiar 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.519 and I use it to help me to bounce ideas off of 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:13.460 myself because I know what I'm trying to do. 00:16:13.539 --> 00:16:15.759 And it's hard to explain to somebody else who 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.720 doesn't understand the nuances. But I can I can 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:21.240 gauge and I can brainstorm. I can do all these 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:23.940 things with myself. And it's not. an echo chamber 00:16:23.940 --> 00:16:26.000 because the way I set it up it actually will 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:29.120 tell me if I'm wrong which I love I love it to 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:31.460 be able to give me point and counterpoint say 00:16:31.460 --> 00:16:33.440 no no that's the wrong direction because then 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:35.240 you know that it's truly not an echo chamber 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:37.039 and that you're not just hearing what you want 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:39.799 to hear this is actually riveting conversation 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:41.840 with a clone version of yourself so that it'll 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.120 be offered here in the next week or two whoa 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:51.500 that sounds fascinating I can't wait to to get 00:16:51.500 --> 00:16:54.019 a preview of that like i mean when you post on 00:16:54.019 --> 00:16:56.700 your website i mean that sounds absolutely cool 00:16:56.700 --> 00:16:59.919 the ability to have a conversation and bounce 00:16:59.919 --> 00:17:07.240 ideas with yourself um that's able to give you 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:14.339 feedback or interact um that sounds so cool uh 00:17:14.339 --> 00:17:18.390 wow okay I've taught it to so far to six. You 00:17:18.390 --> 00:17:19.809 know, I try all this out and I've tried it with 00:17:19.809 --> 00:17:22.829 six other clientele from all different walks 00:17:22.829 --> 00:17:26.230 of life and ages and jobs. And every single one 00:17:26.230 --> 00:17:28.589 of them has come back to me and said, you have 00:17:28.589 --> 00:17:32.890 shortcutted my life by by 80 percent. Like everything 00:17:32.890 --> 00:17:35.990 that all the doubt that I had, all the misdirection 00:17:35.990 --> 00:17:39.529 that I thought I was going in, it recalibrates 00:17:39.529 --> 00:17:42.359 because. Believe it or not, you've got a lot 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:44.420 of the answers and no coach is ever going to 00:17:44.420 --> 00:17:46.480 come in and change completely how you do something. 00:17:46.539 --> 00:17:48.420 They're going to help to hone the edge of the 00:17:48.420 --> 00:17:51.839 sword. And so you already have the skill sets 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:55.079 there. But sometimes you lose the forest through 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:58.039 the trees and you don't know what you know or 00:17:58.039 --> 00:17:59.559 you forgot because, you know, we know we got 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:01.140 a lot going on. You know, you're wearing 50 hats. 00:18:01.339 --> 00:18:03.740 And so to be able to sit and contemplate with 00:18:03.740 --> 00:18:06.019 yourself in a direction that you want to go, 00:18:06.099 --> 00:18:08.220 it's enlightening. You're like, oh, I forgot. 00:18:08.809 --> 00:18:11.029 That was that was the mission or that was the 00:18:11.029 --> 00:18:12.349 thing that I was supposed to do. And it helps 00:18:12.349 --> 00:18:14.049 to bring it back. And when you're looking for 00:18:14.049 --> 00:18:16.769 clients, you can literally put your client in 00:18:16.769 --> 00:18:18.970 there and say, is this a good fit for me? And 00:18:18.970 --> 00:18:21.750 you will tell yourself yes or no. How awesome 00:18:21.750 --> 00:18:25.049 would that be? Rather than. Yeah, it's and so 00:18:25.049 --> 00:18:27.309 it's it's so incredibly useful. I use it a lot. 00:18:27.390 --> 00:18:29.470 And so right now I have six different clones 00:18:29.470 --> 00:18:31.049 of myself and they all wear a different hat. 00:18:31.230 --> 00:18:33.230 But it depends on how I'm approaching my business 00:18:33.230 --> 00:18:35.710 as to whether or not I'm I need that specific 00:18:35.710 --> 00:18:37.819 clone. Interesting. And is this like through 00:18:37.819 --> 00:18:41.980 like the use of AI agents? Yes. Yeah. So but 00:18:41.980 --> 00:18:44.339 the key to it with that AI and I know we're getting 00:18:44.339 --> 00:18:46.900 sidetracked here, but the key to the AI agent 00:18:46.900 --> 00:18:49.380 is that we turn it off from using the Internet. 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.180 We we give it the knowledge base that we want 00:18:52.180 --> 00:18:55.160 and the knowledge base is your knowledge. And 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:57.680 so the more information you can tell about yourself. 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:00.220 So just as an example, when I'm talking to me 00:19:00.220 --> 00:19:03.170 about, say, Gamify business. I wrote these books. 00:19:03.269 --> 00:19:05.369 I upload the books. That's my knowledge base 00:19:05.369 --> 00:19:08.289 right there. And then the key to it is to have 00:19:08.289 --> 00:19:10.750 it ask me more questions to clarify. And then 00:19:10.750 --> 00:19:13.089 I just spend my time. And I don't type everything. 00:19:13.170 --> 00:19:14.950 I know people are so averse to having to type. 00:19:15.259 --> 00:19:17.940 long things i talk i talk on my phone as a voice 00:19:17.940 --> 00:19:20.339 memo i upload it and say there's my answer and 00:19:20.339 --> 00:19:22.720 then it keeps on learning but it stays within 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:25.000 the knowledge base that you have and so when 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:27.740 i'm asking about my business it only structures 00:19:27.740 --> 00:19:29.740 around my business now if i have it's one just 00:19:29.740 --> 00:19:31.279 wanted to search something that's on the internet 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:34.240 i can toggle that ability on and off but for 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:36.680 the most part you don't want outside interference 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:39.259 you want to have a discussion with your true 00:19:39.259 --> 00:19:42.180 knowledge that's the best way to do it okay so 00:19:42.180 --> 00:19:50.160 we're we're We're not approaching. We have arrived 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:56.359 at a new way of doing business, conducting business, 00:19:56.539 --> 00:19:58.819 researching business, getting curious about business. 00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:04.839 We have arrived at a very new opportunity. I'm 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:08.259 so fascinated by this. If you're listening to 00:20:08.259 --> 00:20:10.559 this or watching this, and you are too, I want 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:13.269 to find out more. Paul, give us the details. 00:20:13.390 --> 00:20:15.390 Where can we connect with you? Yeah, just head 00:20:15.390 --> 00:20:18.250 over to my website, which is gamifybusiness .com. 00:20:18.750 --> 00:20:20.910 And if you're curious about this, but you're 00:20:20.910 --> 00:20:22.930 not sure about the investment, if you just enter 00:20:22.930 --> 00:20:24.710 your email address, you'll be able to download 00:20:24.710 --> 00:20:26.849 the first two chapters of my book, The Creative 00:20:26.849 --> 00:20:29.170 Player's Handbook. So you can understand the 00:20:29.170 --> 00:20:31.250 process that goes into this and the steps that 00:20:31.250 --> 00:20:33.369 are involved. And you'll even get a little bit 00:20:33.369 --> 00:20:35.970 of a taste of the nugget of wisdom that you'll 00:20:35.970 --> 00:20:38.730 get inside there. And it does ask you those first 00:20:38.730 --> 00:20:41.809 two questions, which... I know they say don't 00:20:41.809 --> 00:20:44.809 give away all the milk for free, but in this 00:20:44.809 --> 00:20:48.130 one, I think it adds so much value to it. So 00:20:48.130 --> 00:20:49.910 go and check it out. Download the free copy. 00:20:50.150 --> 00:20:52.630 You won't get a follow -up or anything from me. 00:20:52.670 --> 00:20:54.990 I just want you to have access to it. So it's 00:20:54.990 --> 00:20:57.730 gamifybusiness .com. Well, I'm going to do it. 00:20:57.829 --> 00:21:01.470 So you can expect to see my email address come 00:21:01.470 --> 00:21:03.869 through. I want to see what you're doing. This 00:21:03.869 --> 00:21:09.710 is fascinating to me. And when will the AI part 00:21:09.710 --> 00:21:12.680 of it be? your website it should be there within 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:15.960 a week or two I'm finalizing the package right 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:19.579 now it is it it's an addendum to this so there 00:21:19.579 --> 00:21:22.779 is a book compartment a book part to it but it's 00:21:22.779 --> 00:21:24.900 also a digital download so because a lot of the 00:21:24.900 --> 00:21:27.559 way that you talk to AI is it's through prompts 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:28.980 and I don't want you have to type any of that 00:21:28.980 --> 00:21:30.539 so you can copy and paste to put it in there 00:21:30.539 --> 00:21:33.619 and then there's also a video version of me explaining 00:21:33.619 --> 00:21:36.259 again because it's all through story how best 00:21:36.259 --> 00:21:39.160 to approach putting this information into it 00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:42.309 because I Love to ideally do it one -on -one 00:21:42.309 --> 00:21:44.029 with all my clients. And my clients I do that 00:21:44.029 --> 00:21:45.750 with, but I just can't hit everybody. So it's 00:21:45.750 --> 00:21:48.410 a downloadable class, but it's also a book that's 00:21:48.410 --> 00:21:50.250 either virtual or not. So I'm just kind of putting 00:21:50.250 --> 00:21:51.630 all the pieces together now and then we'll be 00:21:51.630 --> 00:21:53.349 able to have it out in about a week or two. Got 00:21:53.349 --> 00:21:56.450 it. Wow. Okay. Fascinating. Gosh, I'm so glad 00:21:56.450 --> 00:22:02.150 that we connected today because this is unique. 00:22:03.369 --> 00:22:09.309 This is the first. Excellent. And I do a lot 00:22:09.309 --> 00:22:13.549 of interviews. Well, good. Yeah. So I'm super 00:22:13.549 --> 00:22:16.789 excited. I hope the people listening are as well. 00:22:17.009 --> 00:22:19.609 This sounds like it could be a game changer for 00:22:19.609 --> 00:22:23.789 many entrepreneurs. So I acknowledge you for 00:22:23.789 --> 00:22:26.890 the work you've done and putting all this together 00:22:26.890 --> 00:22:28.869 and bringing it to the market. This is fantastic. 00:22:30.089 --> 00:22:34.039 Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. We're 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:37.720 just at the top of our time together, so any 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:42.920 last words before we say goodbye? Have fun, and 00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:45.960 remember that business is an adventure. Don't 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:49.660 be an NPC, all right? Play your life. Right on, 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:52.980 dude. So good. All right, now you know what it's 00:22:52.980 --> 00:22:54.799 time to do. It's time to get out there. Be a 00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:57.420 source of kindness. Be a source of contribution. 00:22:57.779 --> 00:23:00.859 You do have something to offer this world, and 00:23:00.859 --> 00:23:03.059 I believe in you. Thank you for being here today. 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:05.019 I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision 00:23:05.019 --> 00:23:07.640 Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing your 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:10.440 reactions as these episodes continue to move 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:12.380 forward. This is going to get more and more fun. 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:14.259 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 00:23:14.299 --> 00:23:16.200 We'll invite people to participate in the show. 00:23:16.339 --> 00:23:18.400 And thank you for giving us your time and attention. 00:23:18.660 --> 00:23:21.299 Have an excellent time building out your vision 00:23:21.299 --> 00:23:22.680 and becoming a vision pro yourself.