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Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode

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of Vision Pros Live. I'm your host and coach,

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Fletcher Ellingson. Today on the show, excited

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to talk with Mr. Mark Kohler. He is a speaker

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and an author of Lead with Purpose. We're talking

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about leadership today. Good morning and welcome

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to the show, Mark. Yeah, thanks for having me,

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Fletcher. My pleasure. You mentioned before we

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started recording that this is one of your favorite

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topics. It's also one of mine. We need... solid

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leaders in our world. We need solid leaders in

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our lives. We need solid leaders in our marriage,

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in our parenting, in our schools. We need solid

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leaders. So looking forward to this conversation.

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But before we get to that, I always start off

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with this question, because I want to remind

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people that despite all the uncertainty and suffering

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in the world, there is still good happening.

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Wherever you want to look for bad, you're going

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to find bad. Wherever you want to look for good,

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you're going to find good. So, Mark, what's something

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that's going well in your life, either professionally

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or personally? Oh, so I've been married for 30

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years on September 11th, so in six days. So,

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you know, really excited about that and the relationship

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I have with my wife. Very, very strong. We've

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raised three strong women, 28, 26, and 24. They

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are crushing it in the world. They have their

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own challenges. So that's, you know, that's obviously

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a huge win. On the business side, a huge win

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is delving into speaking leadership from a keynote

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stage. And I'm able to have a much bigger impact.

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My experience was I was a U .S. nuclear submarine

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officer. I then became an interim turnaround

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CEO, and I created a powerful leadership framework

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based on the million dollars the Navy invested

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in me. leading, you know, average age of the

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crew, 23 years old on missions critical to national

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security, 10 months of the year underneath the

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surface of the ocean, a disruptive environment.

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And so bringing those skills and tools and teaching

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them to people and businesses has just been,

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you know, it's always, you know, fantastic, especially

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Gen Y and Gen Z who are trying to figure out,

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hey, how do I become successful in this world?

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So I think that's the, you know. biggest success

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that I've seen is just impacting more people's

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lives because the tools that I teach are um easy

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to implement and they're also learnable and shareable

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so the impact and ripple that that has in an

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organization is uh is very very satisfying that's

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a huge one right on right on i love hearing that

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um yeah and so uh your children your marriage

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is going well your 30 -year marriage uh you have

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three daughters who are out there um thriving

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and i know uh also because i'm a father of five

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kids it's It's wonderful to see your children

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thrive and deal and navigate challenges powerfully

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and learn from them. And then, yeah, then it

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sounds like you have an incredibly unique background,

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which positions you uniquely for keynoting. Yeah,

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I can't even imagine some of the experiences

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that you must have had under, you know, high

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stakes, high pressure, really. And then and then

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leading these these young people. Wow. What an

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opportunity and what a rich experience you probably

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bring to your audiences. Yeah, no, it's fantastic.

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I mean, it was my first job out of college going

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in the submarine force. And it was the hardest

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job in the world. It was the strongest culture

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I've ever been a part of. It's the most high

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performance team. And again, the stakes weren't,

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am I going to lose a client or is my business

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going to shut down? These were life and death

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decisions. And I was just, I mean, I was 23 years

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old when I was doing this. So I was just like,

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ah, everyone's doing this. And I look back on

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it and it had such a foundational aspect on me.

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And then again, I just love serving and giving

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back. And if I can share these skills and tools

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and I can accelerate someone else's leadership

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journey, because here's a strong belief that

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I have, because I get asked this question all

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the time about leadership. Yeah. Is leadership

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something that a few people are born with or

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is it something that we learn? And my answer

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is it's yes to both of those, but with one caveat.

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Because I don't believe a few people are born

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with leadership. I believe each and every single

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one of us is born with a leadership toolkit inside.

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And it turns out what my experience has been

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is that it's not what we don't have. It's what

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we don't use. And over the past 35 years, being

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on elite level teams, helping to develop other

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countless elite level teams, this is the number

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one ingredient of those teams is that you view

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everyone as a leader and everyone views themselves

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as a leader. And then people are like, well,

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what do I do? Sprinkle pixie dust on someone?

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It's like, no, I actually have a framework that

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I was taught. And if I can learn it, you know,

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bottom 25 percent of my Navy class, if I can

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learn it, you can learn it, too. And I've seen

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it countless times where people have been able

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to learn these leadership skills and tools and

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and become the best version themselves. Right

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on. Yeah, really good stuff. And and that's the

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kind of stuff that we need to be reminded of.

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It is it is we need to be reminded of what is

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possible. And so I love that. I love for people

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to hear like you have it within you. Yes. Using

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it. You may not have tapped into it, but it's

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there. We need to cultivate it. We need to bring

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it out and help you really stand in that. So

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love that. Because Fletcher, here's what it is

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a lot of times. Oh, I'm not a leader. Yes. That's

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someone else's or, you know, that's someone else.

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It's like, no, no, no. You are a leader. And

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just think about like a company that has, say

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they have 1500 employees in it. They describe

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themselves as 100 leaders leading 1 ,400 employees.

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It's competing against a company that views themselves

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as 1 ,500 leaders. Which one's going to win in

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the long run? Yeah, it's the one that views themselves

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as 1 ,500 leaders. And so, yes, it's inside of

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all of us. It just needs to be tapped into and

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awakened. All right, Mark, the show is called

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Vision Pros Live. And so. My next question for

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you is, what's your vision? Yeah, so our vision,

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when we talk about vision, we talk about a period

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in time. So I'm going to give you what my mission

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is and I'm also going to give you what the vision

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is. So I'll start with a mission, which you never

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get to. Our mission is to help people lead more

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purposeful and inspiring lives. That's in every

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single aspect of their life. And I envision a

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world where everyone views themselves as a leader.

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And just think about that. What if everyone viewed

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themselves as a leader and then they had the

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skills in their life to be able to handle any

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situation that came their way, have individual

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readiness, but also how do you then have in a

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dynamically changing environment? What in the

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submarine force we talked about was collective

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readiness. So we envision a world that's steeped

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in purpose. And people have the skills and tools

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to navigate any situation that comes their way,

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not just in business. There's challenges we have

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in our personal lives and our families and our

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communities. So I envision a world where everyone

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feels like they're deeply connected to something

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bigger than themselves. So, you know, and we'll

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never, ever get there. So that's my that's my

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mission or purpose. And then I'll share with

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you my vision, though. Yeah. I really like this.

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idea of collective readiness um because there's

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because we frequently focus on ourselves am i

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ready are you ready i love this concept of are

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we ready um is my community ready is my family

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ready um this is i i like this concept a lot

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can you tell me how do you how might we go about

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influencing, influencing that in our, in our

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communities. Yeah. So I think, you know, we've

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done this test initially started with in the,

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in the business aspect, we've done this test

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with over 500 companies. So here's what we do.

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We ask them, what is your mission? Which is you

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never get to, this has been described to me like

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mother Teresa, her mission was to love the poor

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and then she would never get to it because they

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were. continue to be more poor people. And a

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vision is, hey, in five years, we're going to

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love 1 .5 million people. So it's a time frame.

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So we ask companies, what is your mission? What's

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your vision? What's your top three annual goals?

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What's your top five values? How aligned do you

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think they are, Fletcher, on those four key topics?

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How aligned do you think they are? I would say

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they're probably not very aligned. Yeah. So when

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we ask them up front, we say, how aligned do

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you think you are as a team? Average is 68%.

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When we do the analysis, on average, a team on

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those four key things is only 9 % aligned. Whoa,

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that's a lot lower than I was expecting. Yeah.

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Look, would you climb Mount Everest with a team

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that's only 9 % aligned? Whoa, no. Yeah, you

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just wouldn't. So how do we get people involved?

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First, it's about clarity. Clarity. And what

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was happening for me, just for the audience,

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is that I was steeped in creating one -page business

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plans for companies that helped us to see very

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clearly all of these four things. And that's

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when I got tremendous success. I was not having

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a lot of success in my family aspect. I was telling

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my wife, hey, I'm working hard so we can have

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things, and this is what I'm supposed to do.

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And she said, hey, why don't we create a one

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-page family plan? I love it. That's what changed.

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That's why we've been married for 30 years. So

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she said, hey, and my thought was like, hey,

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if it's important for a company to have a mission

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statement, a vision, a set of values and the

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top three annual goals and a set of rituals,

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would it be important for a family to have that?

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And it's like, absolutely. And so I have these.

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You know, basically, I have one page on the front

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of it is my one page business plan on the back

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of it's my one page family plan. And if it's

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not on that plan, I get to say no to it. And

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so and so I think and when you have to write

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it down and put it in on one page and you have

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to. I didn't just create this and go, hey, you're

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here, family. Right. We sat down and we we went

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through stories of our history and and and they

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were involved in it. And they're bought into

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it. Now, one of the things is one of my daughters

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calls me when she's 22 years old. My middle daughter

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calls me and says, hey, I got a tattoo. And I'm

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like, huh? But six months earlier, she asked

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me to write out our mission statement, which

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is make it a great day. We've shortened it to

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Miyajita. So we just say Miyajita to each other.

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Every day we talk to each other, we say Miyajita.

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Right. That means make it a great day. Whatever

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is going to be given to you today, you know,

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get there. And so she shows me my handwritten

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honor, honor right here. She has me and she looks

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at it every day. Now, if you're if your daughter

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is going to get a tattoo of it, it's if it's

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the family mission statement. I felt a little

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better about that. So so I think the number one

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thing you can do is clarity. It's what we say.

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We have a family with purpose dot com. We have

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lead with purpose dot com. But the number one

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thing we ask you to do is we ask you to sit down.

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We ask you to put together your mission statement,

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because once you do that and people care about

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what they do, they know how they belong to something

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bigger than themselves. Everything else is a

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lot easier. Hey, I got to work out. I got to

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be healthy. I have to do these things in business.

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If I give a crap about my job and I know other

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people are in the same shared purpose and that

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same energy in the heart. then it's a lot easier.

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So I think the number one thing, people overlook

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this. They go, yeah, we have our mission statement.

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I always tell CEOs, well, tell me what's your

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mission statement. I said, do you know your mission

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statement? They say, oh yeah, I love it, right?

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And then it's like, well, tell me what it is.

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And they're like this. They're grabbing the binder,

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right? They're looking on the wall going and

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they're reading this 42 word thing. And it's

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like, no one remembers it. So I would just say

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the number one thing you have to do is get really

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clear on your mission statement. What I learned

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in the submarine force is our missions were always

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two words long. So the mission to go underneath

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the first submarine to go underneath the Nautilus

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to go to the North Pole mission was Operation

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Sunshine. Two words. Everyone can remember it.

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Is that everything you needed? No, but everyone

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knew, hey, we're on Operation Sunshine right

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now. Yeah. And so how do you code word it and

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have a code word mission statement? I love that.

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I yeah, this is such this is really gold. And

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I invite our listeners to really take a moment

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and just ask yourself, do I have clarity in these

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key areas of my life? Do I have clarity in my

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my marriage? Like, for instance, my wife and

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I, we're a big believer in defining, defining

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who we are, who we are in our marriage, who we

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are in our finances. So, for instance, in our

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marriage. I don't ever. So because I went through

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a divorce and I never, ever want to do that again.

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Right. When I entered into my second marriage,

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we both wanted to do it with massive intention.

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Yes. So so we actually defined who we are in

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our marriage. So we're never going to. Yeah.

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If we're never going to wonder, like, gosh, who

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are we? Where? Right. So I can. And I love that

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you said, like, yeah, most people can't. They

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can't. you just rattle off their mission statement

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or their about but in my relationship who we

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are in my marriage this is who we are who we

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are is wide open communication stronger than

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steel support um a living illustration of joy

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connection and contribution um so that's what

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we are wide open communication we're uh stronger

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than still support a living illustration of joy

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connection and contribution so i know who we

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are Fantastic, Fletcher. Fantastic. Because it

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becomes a guiding light for you. Yes. Right?

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If things are going off the rails, you can regroup

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quickly and easily. Wait a second. Let's say

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who we are. And it grounds you. Yeah. So I love

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what you're saying. Clarity is access to power.

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And the clearer you can get. the greater access

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you have to taking bold actions and creating

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the outcomes that you want in your life. Love,

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love, love what you're saying. I would just add

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one thing. Mel Robbins says clarity is kind.

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That's a fun way to look at that. Clarity is

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kind. Yeah. Cool, right? Yeah, well, it's awesome.

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Yeah. And, and the other thing that I'm, I'm

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really appreciating too, is that, you know, your

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daughter who got the tattoo, the MIA GDA, or

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how'd you say, how'd you pronounce it again?

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Oh, make it a great day. And we say, we just

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say miyajda to each other. Yeah. That's our best

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way. People think we're Italian or something.

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So what's great about that is, is that you can,

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you know, listening to you, you get the sense

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that. your your children have bought into this

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right like uh this this level of personal involvement

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personal development personal empowerment whatever

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you want to call it like it's so exciting when

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you see your children start to to buy into it

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and it impacts them our children um all grew

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up with personal development and uh they couldn't

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stand it at the time but my 30 year old uh we

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were having a conversation recently and she's

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like, I'm so glad we had that in our household,

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even though we resisted it early on, but it's

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actually made the difference for them. Fletcher

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had the same exact. um experience yeah right

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it was this time and then we're like put together

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a one -page family plan my kids knew i put together

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one -page business plans they're sitting there

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with their eyes crossed they don't want to participate

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and we put together a set of personal goals based

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around mind body and spirit and then and then

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it was like they would come to me privately and

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go hey can we can we check off that goal on the

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on the list And then, you know, it was on our

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refrigerator. Every Sunday we looked at it. Hey,

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how do we do it? Held me accountable. Like, hey,

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why aren't we doing four family dinners a week?

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But then, but then it's exactly the same thing.

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They were like, hey, are we going to, you know,

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they came home from college one time and they

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go, hey, are we going to do our one page family

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plan? I was like, oh. Gosh, it made my heart

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feel really good. I bet. I bet. Oh, that is so

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fun. Hey, I don't know if you ever share this,

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but I would love to see your one -page family

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plan. It would be so cool and inspiring. Is that

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something you share? It's go to familywithpurpose

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.com, and you can have at it. And it's called

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familywithpurpose .com? Yeah. Family purpose

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.com. Sorry. Sorry. Family. So I have lead with

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purpose, which is our business one page plan.

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Then we have family with purpose. Oh, family

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with purpose. Yeah. Yeah. Someone was sitting

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on the URL Fletcher and we reached out to them.

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They wanted $10 ,000 and we offered them like

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$1 ,800. And they said, yes, I couldn't get my

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credit card out fast enough to go like, I'm fumbling

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with it going like, he better not change his

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mind. Right on. So if you're listening to this

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and you're feeling inspired or curious about

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what this looks like. You can go to familywithpurpose

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.com. I'm going to go and check that out. I'm

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fascinated with this one -page family plan. And

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then also go to leadwithpurpose .com if you want

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to connect with Mark, find out more about what

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he does, or look into bringing him to your organization

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because you can imagine he's going to deliver

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a... powerful keynote um that's clear just from

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this brief conversation we're having uh mark

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we're coming up against our our time here is

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a uh is there uh we so we have familywithpurpose

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.com leadwithpurpose .com you have your book

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leadwithpurpose .com yep leading yeah leading

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with purpose i'll just show it right here yeah

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leading with purpose yep um get uh any last words

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before we uh say goodbye no i mean i would just

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say you know you wake up every single day it's

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a tremendous gift we have this time and um and

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uh you know i would just say make it a great

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day yeah make it a great day absolutely the reason

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we say make it is not have have is passive make

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it means like hey we got it we got to get into

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it we believe that like god's very involved in

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our lives but we're like hey you can't just lay

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around you know he wants us to do stuff and so

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we are we are deeply steeped in uh in that make

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it a great day not have a great day absolutely

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right uh there is action is required right yes

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um so so make it a great day everybody get out

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there be a source of kindness be a source of

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contribution you do have something to offer this

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world and i believe in you Thank you for being

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here today. I'm really happy that you tuned in

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to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing

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your reactions as these episodes continue to

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move forward. This is going to get more and more

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fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show.

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And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision

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and becoming a vision pro yourself.
