I'm not a big titles person, you know, I mean,
but they do, they, they do, you know, they resonate
with people. They do. So they give people context.
Yeah. They're, they're valuable. They're valuable.
Yeah. Father, you know, matters to some people
on my side. That's not a bad one. I, and probably
that's the thing I'm the most proudest of is,
is my son and, and kind of raising him, which
I love. So that's awesome, man. How old is your
son? David is now turning up some light over
here a little bit. David is now 11 years old
and just an amazing kid and into basketball.
I coached his basketball team this year. We went
all the way to the championship game. Unfortunately,
we were beat in the championship game. It was
a tough team, but the road there was like straight
out of the final fours. I mean, we won. Yeah,
no, it was so cool. We won a game with six seconds
left. son actually got fouled and sunk both his
free throws and we tied the game so all right
yeah we got a ball there we're ready we just
shifted the whole theme of this podcast to basketball
i love basketball i grew up killing it in basketball
i love basketball and now i've gotten a little
older my joints can't handle it so it's fun to
see my son do it you know i mean but that's i
love it yeah That's my go -to sport. I mean,
I've played every sport, but, yes, this is –
Oh, it's the best sport. We've got LeBron here.
Oh, do you really? Oh, yeah, breaking the record.
Yeah, I got – in my son's room, I got Michael
Jordan. I got three of his pretty respectable
cards that when I was a kid, I collected them,
and I held on to them, and I dug them up years
later. And I was basically turning over my basketball
cards to my son because he had started to get
got into it. And I'm like, OK, I'm going to give
you mine. And I actually brought. When did you
do that? I just gave my son. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Well, here's the fun part of it is like I did
that. And this was like two or three years ago
when I was just getting into it. And I open them
up and I found Dominique Wilkins and I found,
you know, Spud. I think I may have had a Spud
Webb and a John Sally and all these big names.
But I found three Jordan cards and the process
we were like going online. It's so easy nowadays.
You can go on your phone or whatever and go,
what's the value? What's the value? And I brought
up one of the Jordan cards and the value came
up was like two hundred and twenty five dollars.
And I was like, oh, let me let me take that one
and save it for when you're a little older. And
I and now it's in a case and it hangs on in his
bedroom. But, yeah, no, I mean, I'm such a fan
of basketball. I'm such a fan of basketball.
Oh, me too. Well, I'm born and raised in San
Antonio. Oh, really? Oh, okay, yeah. I'm a huge
basketball fan. Oh, yeah, the whole Spurs operation.
Don't, don't, don't. Robinson, there we go. There
we go. I grew up in the David Robinson era. Sean
Elliott, David Robinson. Yeah, now they're killing
it again. But David Robinson, remember when he
had the double roll socks? That was such a, that
was such a kind of like him thing. Like it was
a little silly, but it, but for him, he was so
big, it worked, but he used to roll that double
roll on his stocks. Yeah. Robinson was awesome.
But yeah, that's our good team. I was a bad boy.
I grew up in Detroit. So bad boys. And, and,
and, and, and I, and an ironic twist of my life.
You know, I grew up. fan of the bad boys my brother's
actually high school team got to play a game
on the pistons floor when they were playing in
the silver dome in detroit and so i got to sat
sit down there and watch him play and i was so
enamored and then afterwards watch a game and
of course the bad boys 89 90 they were epic um
and so then uh full circle my career brought
me back So this was, I don't know, this was a
couple years ago. This was a decade ago now,
but I was working on a regular basis running
into Joe Dumars, and then they had the 25th anniversary.
So I got to meet Bill Lambert. I got to be in
the same room as John Sally. I got to, you know,
Rick Mahorn, I used to work with him directly.
All the bad boys. I got to meet Isaiah Thomas.
The only one I didn't meet was the most notorious
is Dennis Rodman. He didn't show up at the 25th
anniversary, and that was kind of a bummer, but
everyone else was there, and it was so cool.
So, yeah, that's funny. That came full circle.
But, yeah, I'm definitely with you. I have a
deep love. And, yeah, you're kind of checking
out my site there. I'd done some work with the
Pistons recently, and that was that one piece
with Sadiq Bey, who was there for like a second.
These players move around quick nowadays sometimes.
But, yeah, so that was a fun full circle. Oh,
man. I love it. That's what I noticed. I was
looking at these reels and I was like, okay,
you got clips with some serious, serious rock
stars in life, people who have really crushed
it. These NHL players, NBA. It's not easy to
gain opportunities in those circles. You've got
to be doing something. You've got to be moving.
be making things happen go ahead you got a different
thought yeah no i mean i mean i mean i do think
there's some for you know there's there's some
good fortune i think it's a mix i think it's
like um Man, I look at my life. I've been really
blessed, to your point. I have been blessed.
I can't take a lot of credit for it. I do think
I'm talented. I think I've been given some great
gifts. I've been blessed. I could go into this
more. I don't know if you want to jump down this
rabbit hole of some of my work in pro sports.
You know, the story of the NHL, which was really
my first lead into the – if you want to hear
that story, I'll tell you the story of the NHL,
how I kind of got my foot in the door. I'm following
you because I don't know where we're going with
this. I want to. We can wait. We can wait. I'll
follow you. Well, I'm just enjoying it. Yeah,
yeah. Sure, sure, sure. Well, let's bring you
back. For one, like that, I'd love to, you know,
because I was looking at this is like, OK, director,
bio and real. You got these different promotions
with Dodge Ram. You know, you got people in here
who are obvious like life heroes, like Noah Galloway
commercials for big companies and Animal Planet.
And so, again, I appreciate your humility on
that. You're blessed and fortunate. I won't disagree
with the blessing aspect, but I also won't downplay.
what it takes to produce that quality of work
um you know what what type of commitment is required
and so your uh your whole processes inspire me
because the whole purpose of vision pros is to
inspire visionary leaders and really it's inspired
people to a lot i'm hoping a lot of people for
the first time are like you know what i have
a vision and i want to bring it to life i i also
like the detroit pistons i also have an 11 year
old son you know i also would love to do work
like that, or I'm working on my process. And
the whole process is designed to inspire people
to step into their own vision, to own it, to
do it, to make it happen. So the whole story
matters, Barry. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, for
me, your term vision is similar to my probably
favorite term, which is dream, which I think
they're two in the same. You know, your visions
and your dreams are very similar. It's acting
upon them. it's acting upon them in a in taking
the risks and kind of the profound moments of
like facing your fears to make them into a reality
that is really the difference between someone
having a vision and not having a vision i mean
i i have uh i've i've kind of gone through life
haphazardly at some level really and that's the
truth i mean you know my start my story starts
you know After college, I didn't really know
what I wanted to do during college. I kind of
followed what I understood, what my parents kind
of projected on me and what I understood maybe
might be my path based on my upbringing because
I grew up in the countryside of Michigan, literally
in a pretty sheltered life. and a farm kind of
a home village -esque i say hybrid because we
didn't have an active farm but we my mom had
sheeps and and we had chickens and ducks and
you know and so it wasn't a working farm but
my mom grew up a farmer girl and she wanted to
pass on some of that to us but i grew up you
know super small town and pretty sheltered and
and after college i just I saved up $2 ,000.
I had a car that I had paid off of Pontiac Grand
Am, and I drove out to California, to Los Angeles.
I was with a dream in my pocket, literally. I
think what I had on my side, and this to your
point of if you have a vision, kind of how to
act upon it, what I had on my side was a certain
sense that if I had the idea, And I had this
at a young age and I, and I actually think it's
profound and, and I'm fortunate. Some things
I was not fortunate to have, you know, I'm not
the greatest in academia or a greatest student,
but, but things that the trade -off for that
was like, I had a certain amount of wisdom and
awareness on how the universe works and a, and
a continual observation. I genuinely believe
that God will fulfill the desires of your heart.
That's just like something deep within me. And
I, and I genuinely believe that you can call
God universe. you can call it what you want out
there i i but you're you are given you are given
dreams and visions uh for a reason because by
fulfilling them you're you have the capability
to make the world a better place i genuinely
believe that because when you're doing what you
love you're giving back something that only you
can give and you're giving it back with love
and with passion and when you're doing that you're
everyone's winning right but you have but for
me like the the the trade -off in that was like,
as I, as I kind of went through this life, I
didn't have a degree. I didn't go and study this
stuff. I didn't have a clue what I was doing.
I just moved out to California. And I just kind
of had a belief that it would work out. And one
contact that I'd had from college introduced
me and I worked my tail off. And that and on
that set, someone like ended up taking a liking
to me and that rolled into bigger opportunities.
And and by the climax of my time in Hollywood,
I was working on sets with, you know, and they
were at the time they were huge names. And and.
early 2000s which was will smith and jennifer
uh lopez who are still big names but like not
not what they were in that time you know and
and the list kind of goes on but um and so that's
kind of where the journey started but it started
with me going i'm i'm gonna call liz who's a
friend she introduced me someone i just busted
my tail i remember working i worked in the ghostbusters
uh the where they filmed ghostbusters i worked
in the firehouse yeah the very first job i ever
did i got paid 80 cash and i worked in the i
worked a 12 hour 14 hour day uh and i filmed
in the in the and we filmed in the firehouse
for some commercial that we were doing and forget
what it was where they filmed Ghostbusters and
they still had the fire pole that was running
down through the middle of, of the station. And
it was, and it was a huge, it was a 20 foot fire
pole and it was so cool. And it was just kind
of cool. And I knew that they had filmed there
and it just had this mystique about it. And that
rolled into me shooting on, working on a Buster
Rhymes commercial. And so I don't know if you,
I don't know if you know, Buster Rhymes, Buster
Rhymes, he's still kind of big. He's not as big,
but he was big. You know, he had like just light.
And I just remember, I was working and I had
no clue I was a PA, which means production assistant
for people who are out there. And PA is basically
do whatever. And I had no clue that I needed
to even report into the production trailer. That's
how little I knew about production. I just knew
I needed to show up. And I didn't know I needed
to check into the production trailer. I just
started walking around set asking people if they
needed help. So people who know film industry
know that. that big film industry at this level,
they function just like any corporation. There's
the electrics, there's the grips, there's the
director, there's the camera crew, there's the
food and craft services, there's talent, location
manager, and the list goes on. And they're very
separate entities and they're all paid separate.
And so for some random PA from Michigan to be
running around, hey, you need help, you need
help, you need help. And everyone loved me for
it. I didn't even know what I was doing. They
loved me for it. And literally on the first set,
I was just like, people were like, I remember
the guy rolling the dolly off of a camera truck.
And I was like, I just came here. I've been in
Hollywood for two days, and I'm working on a
Busta Rhymes set. And he's like, dude, you are
the true Hollywood story. You know, that used
to be a series back in the day. And so it just
went from there. So that's kind of how my career
started. But it was like a mix of just childish
naivete, a willingness to do anything. And I
grew up in the Midwest. I was farming on my uncle's
farm when I was 12 years old, baling hay. So
I wasn't afraid of a day's work. You know what
I mean? A 12 -hour day sweating and busting tail
and running around meant nothing to me. So I'm
like, all right, let's do it. I like to work.
And I think that really gave birth to, you know,
going back to the original piece that we kind
of launched this rant on, which was, you know,
vision pros and fulfilling visions and carrying
out visions. Like that's the that's the I think
maybe the term I might want to use is the kinesthetics
or like the action based, the kinetic piece of
kind of like what it takes to turn that vision
into a reality. It was for me and it's been a
very successful path for me at some level. Oh,
we just got a master class, visionaries. A huge
one. I'm going to go back to the quote that I
absolutely loved. You said, God will fulfill
the desires of your heart. I think that's huge.
And especially when you take action like you
did. All of this hard work, grit, tenaciousness,
the things that you were able to give that you
learn on the farm. and then continued to sustain
throughout your career, it led to this amazing
opportunity. And you now got the book, The Unknown
Adventurer. So we're going to look for that on
shelves for sure. I'm sure we can probably find
that online as well. So we'll put the link into
it. And we might use this as an episode. In case
we do, I'll end with our official outro. vision
pros you know if you guys have a vision you don't
have to have worked with Will Smith and Jennifer
Lopez you don't have to have worked with the
NHL you might be at the very beginning stages
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go check out Barry Walton and his book and what
he's up to within this media. He's got some amazing
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